Elizabeth Hewett1
F, #61681
Last Edited | 4 Oct 2020 |
Elizabeth Hewett married Benjamin Price, son of Mordecai Price I and Mary Parsons, on 22 June 1730.1
Family | Benjamin Price b. 1709 |
Citations
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 04 October 2020), memorial page for Mordecai Price I (1660–8 May 1715), Find a Grave Memorial no. 33481544,; Maintained by Bonnie Huish (contributor 46938507) Unknown, at:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/33481544/mordecai-price. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
Ludgardis (?) van Perk1
F, #61682, d. between 1219 and 1231
Father | Hendrik II van Cuyck Stadgraff van Utrecht1,2,3 b. c 1130, d. bt 1204 - 1205 |
Mother | Sophia van Renen Heiress of Herpen4 d. a 1203 |
Last Edited | 25 Sep 2020 |
Ludgardis (?) van Perk married Godfried II van Breda Heer van Breda, son of Hendrik van Breda Heer van Breda and Christina (?), in August 1190.5,1
Ludgardis (?) van Perk died between 1219 and 1231.1
Reference: Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 100; VII 35.1
Ludgardis (?) van Perk died between 1219 and 1231.1
Reference: Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 100; VII 35.1
Family | Godfried II van Breda Heer van Breda |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ludgardis van Perk: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197092&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/DUTCH%20NOBILITY.htm#HendrikCuykdied1204. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hendrik II van Cuyck: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00580821&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sophia van Renen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00580822&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Godfried II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197091&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sophie van Breda: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174875&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Godfried III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00319493&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrix van Breda: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00109493&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/DUTCH%20NOBILITY.htm#BeatrixBredaMArnoutWesemaal
Godfried II van Breda Heer van Breda1
M, #61683
Father | Hendrik van Breda Heer van Breda3,1 d. 1192 |
Mother | Christina (?)2,1 d. a 1187 |
Last Edited | 25 Sep 2020 |
Godfried II van Breda Heer van Breda married Ludgardis (?) van Perk, daughter of Hendrik II van Cuyck Stadgraff van Utrecht and Sophia van Renen Heiress of Herpen, in August 1190.1,4
Reference: Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 100.1 Godfried II van Breda Heer van Breda was living in 1187.1
Reference: Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 100.1 Godfried II van Breda Heer van Breda was living in 1187.1
Family | Ludgardis (?) van Perk d. bt 1219 - 1231 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Godfried II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197091&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Christina: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197090&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hendrik II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197089&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ludgardis van Perk: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197092&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Godfried III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00319493&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrix van Breda: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00109493&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/DUTCH%20NOBILITY.htm#BeatrixBredaMArnoutWesemaal. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Godfried III van Breda Heer van Breda1
M, #61684, d. 1227
Father | Godfried II van Breda Heer van Breda1 |
Mother | Ludgardis (?) van Perk1 d. bt 1219 - 1231 |
Last Edited | 14 Feb 2004 |
Godfried III van Breda Heer van Breda died in 1227.1
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 100.1
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 100.1
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Godfried III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00319493&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
Mahaut (Mathilde) de Béthune dame de Commines1,2
F, #61685, d. 1 November 1252
Father | Guillaume II de Béthune seigneur de Béthune, Richebourg, Warneton, Choques, Tenremonde, Meulebeke (Molembecque), et Locres (Lokeren), avoué de l’abbaye Saint-Vaast d’Arras1,2 b. c 1160, d. 14 Apr 1214 |
Mother | Maud de Tenremond dame de Tenremonde, Lokeren et Meulebeke1,2 b. 1185, d. 18 Apr 1224 |
Last Edited | 18 May 2009 |
Mahaut (Mathilde) de Béthune dame de Commines married Baudouin II de Commines seigneur de Commines
; her 1st husband.2 Mahaut (Mathilde) de Béthune dame de Commines married Geoffroi III de Breda
; her 2nd husband.2 Mahaut (Mathilde) de Béthune dame de Commines married Gilbert van Zotteghem chevalier, seigneur de Rassinghem
; her 3rd husband.2 Mahaut (Mathilde) de Béthune dame de Commines married Arnould V Van Diest
; her 4th husband.2
Mahaut (Mathilde) de Béthune dame de Commines died on 1 November 1252.1
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 138.1
; her 1st husband.2 Mahaut (Mathilde) de Béthune dame de Commines married Geoffroi III de Breda
; her 2nd husband.2 Mahaut (Mathilde) de Béthune dame de Commines married Gilbert van Zotteghem chevalier, seigneur de Rassinghem
; her 3rd husband.2 Mahaut (Mathilde) de Béthune dame de Commines married Arnould V Van Diest
; her 4th husband.2
Mahaut (Mathilde) de Béthune dame de Commines died on 1 November 1252.1
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 138.1
Family 1 | Gilbert van Zotteghem chevalier, seigneur de Rassinghem d. 1239 |
Family 2 | Arnould V Van Diest d. 1258 |
Family 3 | Baudouin II de Commines seigneur de Commines d. 1218 |
Family 4 | Geoffroi III de Breda d. 1227 |
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde de Béthune: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00316226&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bethune.pdf, p. 4. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
Beatrix van Breda Heiress of Perk1,2
F, #61686, d. before 1251
Father | Godfried II van Breda Heer van Breda1,2 |
Mother | Ludgardis (?) van Perk1,2 d. bt 1219 - 1231 |
Last Edited | 25 Sep 2020 |
Beatrix van Breda Heiress of Perk married Arnold II van Wesemaele Heer van Wesemaele, Marshall of Brabant before 1222
;
His 1st wife.
NB: Genealogics and Wikipédia (FR) say his 1st wife was Beatrix van Breda. Med Lands says she was Isabelle de la Frête. Med Lands show Beatrix as Arnold/Arnout's mother, not his wife.3,4,5,1,2
Beatrix van Breda Heiress of Perk died before 1251.1
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 101.1
; Per Med Lands:
"BEATRIX van Breda (-[1244/51]). “Lutgardis domina de Scotis” donated “duodecim libras Flandrensis monete...apud Serber et...apud Perke loco...Bukt” to Antwerp St. Michiel, with the consent of “liberis meis...Godefrido, Egidio, Henrico, Sophia et Beatrice”, by charter dated 19 Apr 1219[860]. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified. "Arnoldus dominus de Wesemale" donated land "jacentis in parochia de Wambeca in voco Lumbeca" to Ninove, for the salvation of "mei et uxoris meæ Beatricis", by charter dated 1229[861]. “Ernoul chevalier sire de Wesemale et dame Béatrix son épouse” donated property to Epinlieu abbey, with the consent of “leur fils Ernoul”, by charter dated 1244[862].
"m as his second wife, ARNOUT [II] Heer van Wesemaal, son of ARNOUT [I] Heer van Wesemaal & his wife --- (-after 1244)."
Med Lands cites:
;
His 1st wife.
NB: Genealogics and Wikipédia (FR) say his 1st wife was Beatrix van Breda. Med Lands says she was Isabelle de la Frête. Med Lands show Beatrix as Arnold/Arnout's mother, not his wife.3,4,5,1,2
Beatrix van Breda Heiress of Perk died before 1251.1
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 101.1
; Per Med Lands:
"BEATRIX van Breda (-[1244/51]). “Lutgardis domina de Scotis” donated “duodecim libras Flandrensis monete...apud Serber et...apud Perke loco...Bukt” to Antwerp St. Michiel, with the consent of “liberis meis...Godefrido, Egidio, Henrico, Sophia et Beatrice”, by charter dated 19 Apr 1219[860]. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified. "Arnoldus dominus de Wesemale" donated land "jacentis in parochia de Wambeca in voco Lumbeca" to Ninove, for the salvation of "mei et uxoris meæ Beatricis", by charter dated 1229[861]. “Ernoul chevalier sire de Wesemale et dame Béatrix son épouse” donated property to Epinlieu abbey, with the consent of “leur fils Ernoul”, by charter dated 1244[862].
"m as his second wife, ARNOUT [II] Heer van Wesemaal, son of ARNOUT [I] Heer van Wesemaal & his wife --- (-after 1244)."
Med Lands cites:
[860] Oorkondenboek Noord-Brabant, II, Eerste stuk, 950, p. 175.
[861] Ninove, CLIII, p. 860.
[862] Devillers (1867), Tome III, XCIII, p. 46.2
[861] Ninove, CLIII, p. 860.
[862] Devillers (1867), Tome III, XCIII, p. 46.2
Family | Arnold II van Wesemaele Heer van Wesemaele, Marshall of Brabant b. c 1190, d. 1260 |
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrix van Breda: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00109493&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/DUTCH%20NOBILITY.htm#BeatrixBredaMArnoutWesemaal. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Arnold II van Wesemaele: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00109492&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRABANT,%20LOUVAIN.htm#ArnoldIIIWesemaaldied1260.
- [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Arnould II de Wezemaal: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnould_II_de_Wezemaal. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
Guilhem II de Montpellier Seigneur de Montpellier1,2
M, #61687, b. circa 1005, d. 1058
Father | Berenger/Bernard de Montpelier2 |
Mother | Trudgardis (?)2 d. 1020 |
Reference | EDV28 |
Last Edited | 8 Nov 2020 |
Guilhem II de Montpellier Seigneur de Montpellier married Beliarde (?)3,4,5,2,1
Guilhem II de Montpellier Seigneur de Montpellier was born circa 1005; Wikipédia (FR) says b. ca 990.3,1
Guilhem II de Montpellier Seigneur de Montpellier died in 1058; Genealogics says d. 1058; Med Lands says d. bef 1059; Wikipédia (FR) says d. ca 1059.3,5,1
; Per Genealogics:
“Guillem was the son of Guillem II de Montpellier. He was lord of Montpellier from 1025 until his death. With his wife Beliarde he had a son and successor Guillem IV who would have progeny.
“Guillem III is the last of the 'shadowy' Guillems, none of whose charters are conserved in the family cartulary, the _Liber instrumentorum memoralium._
“Guillem died in 1058.”.3 EDV-28.
; This is the same person as ”Guilhem II de Montpellier” at Wikipédia (FR).1
; This is the same person as ”Guilhem II de Montpellier” at Wikipédia (FR).6 Guilhem II de Montpellier Seigneur de Montpellier was also known as Guillem II de Montpelier Seigneur de Montpelier.7 Guilhem II de Montpellier Seigneur de Montpellier was also known as Guillaume II Bernard de Montpelier Seigneur de Montpelier.8
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 445.3 Guilhem II de Montpellier Seigneur de Montpellier was also known as Guillem III de Montpelier Sire de Montpellier.3
; NB: Genealogics and Med Lands differ on the descent of the Seigneurs de Montpelier from Guillem/Guillaume I.
I. Genealogics shows:
I.1 Guillem I de Montpellier b. Est 950 d. 1019
-->I.2 Guillem II de Montpellier
-->I.3 Guillem III, Sire de Montpellier b. Est 1005 d. 1058 m. Beliarde
-->I.4 Guillem IV, Sire de Montpellier b. Est 1028 d. 1068 m. Ermengarde de Melgueil
-->I.5 Guillem V, Sire de Montpellier b. Abt 1075 d. Bef 21 Feb 1122
II. Med Lands shows:
II.1 Guillaume I, Seigneur de Montpellier b. 955 d. 1024
-->II.2.1 Berenger/Bernard
-->II.2.2 Guillaume II [Bernard] de Montpellier, Seigneur de Montpellier b. unk d. bef 1059 m. Beliarde
-->II.3 Guillaume III de Montpellier, Seigneur de Montpellier b. unk d. aft 10689
(Unassigned) II.4 Bernard Guillaume IV de Montpelier, Seigneur de Montpellier b. unk d. 1085 m (unlikely) Ermengarde de Melgueil (Med Lands states: "He was the brother of Guillaume III according to Duhamel-Amado[755] and Baumel[756], but his son according to Settipani[757]."
-->II.5 Guillaume V de Montpellier, Seigneur de Montpellier b. unk d. Bef 21 Feb 1122, betrothed NN de Melgueil; m. Ermesende
Med Lands cites (for II.4 Bernard Guillaume IV):
[755] Duhamel-Amado (2001), p. 262. [J.-C. Chuat]
[756] Baumel (1980), p. 56. [J.-C. Chuat]
[757] Settipani (1988), p. 48, and Settipani (2004), p. 143 footnote 3.
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III. Wikipédia (FR) - Liste des seigneurs de Montpellier offers the following (dates are for reigns, not necessarily birth and death, though the end of a reign usually coincided with an individual's death)
III.1 Guilhem I de Montpellier 985 - ca 1025
III.2. Bérenger/Bernard de Montpellier
-->III.2. Guilhem II de Montpellier, ca 1025 - ca 1059, nephew of the Guilhem I, son of Bérenger (or Bernard) de Montpellier
-->III.3.1 Guilhem III de Montpellier, ca 1059 - ca 1068, son of the Guilhem II
-->III.3.2 Bernard Guilhem IV de Montpellier, ca 1068 - 1085, brother of Guilhem III
-->III.4 Guilhem V de Montpellier,1085 - 1122, son of Guilhem IV
IV. H&T offer an extensive and well-documented analysis of the verious hypotheses regarding this line and conclude that the most commonly espoused hypothesis shows (see attached image of the diagram from the H&T website):
Siblings:
IV.1.1 Berenger
IV.1.2 Guilhem I [Bernard] de Montpellier m. Chimberge
IV.1.3 Trudgarde b. 960 d. bef 1022 m. Bernard (it is unclear whether Trudgarde or Bernard was the sibling of the other two)
-->IV.2 Guilhem II Bernard m. Beliarde (H&T state: "Guilhem I n’ayant probablement pas eu d’enfant adopte celui de Tudgarde, le fameux Guilhem II Bernard." (Guillem I probably not having children, adopted that of Trudgard, the famous Gillhem II Bernard." [translation by GA Vaut]
-->IV.3 Guilhem III Bernard m. Ermengarde de Narbonne
-->IV.4 Guilhem IV b. 1073 d. 1122 m. Ermessinde
Conclusion: I tend to be swayed by the arguments of Settipani and therefore have adopted the lineage as outlined by Genealogics for Guillem/Guillaume IV and V (father/son). This leaves unanswered the question of whether Guillem/Guillaume II was the son of Guillem/Guillaume I (per Genealogics) or of one of his siblings, Bernard/Berenger (per Med Lands) or Trugarde & Bernard (per H&T). Med Lands, Wikipédia (FR), and H&T disagree with the Genealogics descent, showing Guillaume/Guilhem/Guillem II not as the son of Guillaume/Guilhem/Guillem I, but rather of his sibling, named variously Bernard, Berenger or Bernard/Berenger. For now, I have also adopted H&T's lineage, but continue to search for other information. GA Vaut.9,8,10,2,11 He was Seigneur de Montpellier between 1025 and 1059.12
Guilhem II de Montpellier Seigneur de Montpellier was born circa 1005; Wikipédia (FR) says b. ca 990.3,1
Guilhem II de Montpellier Seigneur de Montpellier died in 1058; Genealogics says d. 1058; Med Lands says d. bef 1059; Wikipédia (FR) says d. ca 1059.3,5,1
; Per Genealogics:
“Guillem was the son of Guillem II de Montpellier. He was lord of Montpellier from 1025 until his death. With his wife Beliarde he had a son and successor Guillem IV who would have progeny.
“Guillem III is the last of the 'shadowy' Guillems, none of whose charters are conserved in the family cartulary, the _Liber instrumentorum memoralium._
“Guillem died in 1058.”.3 EDV-28.
; This is the same person as ”Guilhem II de Montpellier” at Wikipédia (FR).1
; This is the same person as ”Guilhem II de Montpellier” at Wikipédia (FR).6 Guilhem II de Montpellier Seigneur de Montpellier was also known as Guillem II de Montpelier Seigneur de Montpelier.7 Guilhem II de Montpellier Seigneur de Montpellier was also known as Guillaume II Bernard de Montpelier Seigneur de Montpelier.8
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 445.3 Guilhem II de Montpellier Seigneur de Montpellier was also known as Guillem III de Montpelier Sire de Montpellier.3
; NB: Genealogics and Med Lands differ on the descent of the Seigneurs de Montpelier from Guillem/Guillaume I.
I. Genealogics shows:
I.1 Guillem I de Montpellier b. Est 950 d. 1019
-->I.2 Guillem II de Montpellier
-->I.3 Guillem III, Sire de Montpellier b. Est 1005 d. 1058 m. Beliarde
-->I.4 Guillem IV, Sire de Montpellier b. Est 1028 d. 1068 m. Ermengarde de Melgueil
-->I.5 Guillem V, Sire de Montpellier b. Abt 1075 d. Bef 21 Feb 1122
II. Med Lands shows:
II.1 Guillaume I, Seigneur de Montpellier b. 955 d. 1024
-->II.2.1 Berenger/Bernard
-->II.2.2 Guillaume II [Bernard] de Montpellier, Seigneur de Montpellier b. unk d. bef 1059 m. Beliarde
-->II.3 Guillaume III de Montpellier, Seigneur de Montpellier b. unk d. aft 10689
(Unassigned) II.4 Bernard Guillaume IV de Montpelier, Seigneur de Montpellier b. unk d. 1085 m (unlikely) Ermengarde de Melgueil (Med Lands states: "He was the brother of Guillaume III according to Duhamel-Amado[755] and Baumel[756], but his son according to Settipani[757]."
-->II.5 Guillaume V de Montpellier, Seigneur de Montpellier b. unk d. Bef 21 Feb 1122, betrothed NN de Melgueil; m. Ermesende
Med Lands cites (for II.4 Bernard Guillaume IV):
[755] Duhamel-Amado (2001), p. 262. [J.-C. Chuat]
[756] Baumel (1980), p. 56. [J.-C. Chuat]
[757] Settipani (1988), p. 48, and Settipani (2004), p. 143 footnote 3.
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III. Wikipédia (FR) - Liste des seigneurs de Montpellier offers the following (dates are for reigns, not necessarily birth and death, though the end of a reign usually coincided with an individual's death)
III.1 Guilhem I de Montpellier 985 - ca 1025
III.2. Bérenger/Bernard de Montpellier
-->III.2. Guilhem II de Montpellier, ca 1025 - ca 1059, nephew of the Guilhem I, son of Bérenger (or Bernard) de Montpellier
-->III.3.1 Guilhem III de Montpellier, ca 1059 - ca 1068, son of the Guilhem II
-->III.3.2 Bernard Guilhem IV de Montpellier, ca 1068 - 1085, brother of Guilhem III
-->III.4 Guilhem V de Montpellier,1085 - 1122, son of Guilhem IV
IV. H&T offer an extensive and well-documented analysis of the verious hypotheses regarding this line and conclude that the most commonly espoused hypothesis shows (see attached image of the diagram from the H&T website):
Siblings:
IV.1.1 Berenger
IV.1.2 Guilhem I [Bernard] de Montpellier m. Chimberge
IV.1.3 Trudgarde b. 960 d. bef 1022 m. Bernard (it is unclear whether Trudgarde or Bernard was the sibling of the other two)
-->IV.2 Guilhem II Bernard m. Beliarde (H&T state: "Guilhem I n’ayant probablement pas eu d’enfant adopte celui de Tudgarde, le fameux Guilhem II Bernard." (Guillem I probably not having children, adopted that of Trudgard, the famous Gillhem II Bernard." [translation by GA Vaut]
-->IV.3 Guilhem III Bernard m. Ermengarde de Narbonne
-->IV.4 Guilhem IV b. 1073 d. 1122 m. Ermessinde
Conclusion: I tend to be swayed by the arguments of Settipani and therefore have adopted the lineage as outlined by Genealogics for Guillem/Guillaume IV and V (father/son). This leaves unanswered the question of whether Guillem/Guillaume II was the son of Guillem/Guillaume I (per Genealogics) or of one of his siblings, Bernard/Berenger (per Med Lands) or Trugarde & Bernard (per H&T). Med Lands, Wikipédia (FR), and H&T disagree with the Genealogics descent, showing Guillaume/Guilhem/Guillem II not as the son of Guillaume/Guilhem/Guillem I, but rather of his sibling, named variously Bernard, Berenger or Bernard/Berenger. For now, I have also adopted H&T's lineage, but continue to search for other information. GA Vaut.9,8,10,2,11 He was Seigneur de Montpellier between 1025 and 1059.12
Family | Beliarde (?) |
Children |
Citations
- [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Guilhem II de Montpellier:. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
- [S4792] Hélène et Thierry Site Internet: Généalogie familiale, Généalogie moyen-âgeuse, documentation, online <http://thierryhelene.bianco.free.fr/drupal/>, Aux origines des Guilhem de Montpellier: http://thierryhelene.bianco.free.fr/drupal/?q=node/58. Hereinafter cited as H&T Site Internet.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillem III: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120684&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beliarde: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120685&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/TOULOUSE%20NOBILITY.htm#GuillaumeIIMontpellierdiedbefore1059B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S4742] Wikipédia (FR), online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Guilhem II de Montpellier: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guilhem_II_de_Montpellier
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillem II de Montpellier: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00521884&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/TOULOUSE%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc496685206
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, https://www.genealogics.org/descendtext.php?personID=I00521883&tree=LEO&display=block&generations=5
- [S4742] Wikipédia (FR), online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Liste des seigneurs de Montpellier: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_seigneurs_de_Montpellier
- [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 26 Sep 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
- [S4742] Wikipédia (FR), online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Guilhem III de Montpellier: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guilhem_III_de_Montpellier
- [S4742] Wikipédia (FR), online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Bernard Guilhem IV de Montpellier: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Guilhem_IV_de_Montpellier
Hendrik van Breda Heer van Breda1
M, #61688, d. 1192
Father | Gerhard van Breda Heer van Breda2 d. b 1152 |
Mother | Beatrix (?) de Namur3 |
Last Edited | 18 Jan 2014 |
Hendrik van Breda Heer van Breda married Christina (?) in 1160.1,4
Hendrik van Breda Heer van Breda died in 1192.1
Reference: Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 100.1
Hendrik van Breda Heer van Breda died in 1192.1
Reference: Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 100.1
Family | Christina (?) d. a 1187 |
Child |
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hendrik II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197089&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gerhad: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027137&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Béatrix de Namur: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027138&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Christina: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197090&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Godfried II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197091&tree=LEO
Gerhard van Breda Heer van Breda1
M, #61689, d. before 1152
Father | Hendrik van Brunesheim Heer in Groot-Zundert2,1 d. b 1125 |
Last Edited | 18 Jan 2014 |
Gerhard van Breda Heer van Breda married Beatrix (?) de Namur, daughter of Henri I (?) de Namur, Comte de La Roche and Mathilde (?) von Limburg.3,4,5
Gerhard van Breda Heer van Breda died before 1152.1
Reference: Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 100.1
Gerhard van Breda Heer van Breda died before 1152.1
Reference: Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 100.1
Family | Beatrix (?) de Namur |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gerhad: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027137&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hendrik I van Brunesheim: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027139&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Béatrix de Namur: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027138&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gerhard: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027137&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 2 page (The Luxemburg Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg2.html
Hendrik van Brunesheim Heer in Groot-Zundert1
M, #61690, d. before 1125
Last Edited | 18 Jan 2014 |
Hendrik van Brunesheim Heer in Groot-Zundert died before 1125.1
Reference: Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 100.1
Reference: Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 100.1
Family | |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hendrik I van Brunesheim: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027139&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gerhad: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027137&tree=LEO
Beatrix (?) de Namur1,2
F, #61691
Father | Henri I (?) de Namur, Comte de La Roche1,2,3,4 b. 1070, d. b 1138 |
Mother | Mathilde (?) von Limburg1,2,5,4 b. c 1095, d. a 1148 |
Last Edited | 1 May 2020 |
Beatrix (?) de Namur married Gerhard van Breda Heer van Breda, son of Hendrik van Brunesheim Heer in Groot-Zundert.1,6,2
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 100.1
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 100.1
Family | Gerhard van Breda Heer van Breda d. b 1152 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Béatrix de Namur: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027138&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 2 page (The Luxemburg Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henri I de Namur: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027134&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(LOWER)%20NOBILITY.htm#HenriNamurLarochediedbefore1138B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde von Limburg: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197508&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gerhard: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027137&tree=LEO
Godefroid (?) de Namur, Comte de La Roche1
M, #61692, d. before 28 February 1143
Father | Henri I (?) de Namur, Comte de La Roche1,2,3 b. 1070, d. b 1138 |
Mother | Mathilde (?) von Limburg1,4,3 b. c 1095, d. a 1148 |
Last Edited | 14 Jul 2020 |
Godefroid (?) de Namur, Comte de La Roche died before 28 February 1143.5
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 2 page (The Luxemburg Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henri I de Namur: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027134&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(LOWER)%20NOBILITY.htm#HenriNamurLarochediedbefore1138B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde von Limburg: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197508&tree=LEO
- [S1896] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 22 June 2005: "Extended Pedigree of Counts of Boulogne-sur-Mer"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/44eb7V2WEXc/m/5ixO37yx3noJ) to e-mail address, 22 June 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 22 June 2005."
Mathilde (?) von Limburg1,2
F, #61693, b. circa 1095, d. after 1148
Father | Heinrich I von Limburg Graf von Limburg, Duke of Lower Lotharingia2,3,4,5,6 b. c 1059, d. 1119 |
Mother | Adelaide von Pottenstein7,5,6 b. c 1061, d. c 1106 |
Last Edited | 18 Dec 2020 |
Mathilde (?) von Limburg married Henri I (?) de Namur, Comte de La Roche, son of Albert III (?) Comte de Namur and Ida Billung von Sachsen, heiress of La Roche.8,5,6,9
Mathilde (?) von Limburg was born circa 1095.2
Mathilde (?) von Limburg died after 1148; Genealogy.EU says d. 1141; Med Lands says d. aft 1148.8,6
; Per Med Lands:
"HENRI de Namur, son of ALBERT III Comte de Namur & his wife Ida von Sachsen (-before 1138). The Genealogica comitum Buloniensium names "Godefridum et Henricum comitem de Rupe" sons of "Albertus de Namurco"[146]. Comte de La Roche. Vogt of Stablo-Malmédy. "Heinricus advocatus et filius eius Heinricus, Godefridus de Asca et comes de Dorbui Heinricus adhuc puer" subscribed the charter dated 1124 under which "Cuono…Stabulensis abbas" recounted the settlement reached over the church of Bra[147].
"m MATHILDE van Limburg, daughter of HENDRIK [I] Graaf van Limburg & his [second] wife Adelheid von Botenstein (-after 1148). "Heinricus comes de Rupe" donated property to the abbey of St Hubert by charter dated 1152 which names "matris mei Mathildis comitisse et Godefridi fratris mei"[148]. Her origin is determined from a charter dated 1148 in which Wibald abbot of Stavelot names "dominis suis Heinrico de Rupe et Heinrico de Lemburch quorum alter, id est de Rupe, advocatus ecclesie nostre erat et alterius Heinrici amite filius"[149], the former being Henri [II] Comte de La Roche and the latter Hendrik [II] Duke of Limburg. "
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU: "Matilda, *ca 1095; m.Henri de Namur, Cte de la Roche."2
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VI 26.5
; Per Racines et Histoire: "2) Mathilde van Limburg ° ~1095 + après 1148 (citée charte 1148 de Wibald, Abbé de Stavelot)
ép. Henri 1er de Namur, comte de La Roche + avant 05/06/1138 (fils d’Albert III, comte de Namur, et d’Ide von Sachsen.)11,10"
; Per Med Lands:
"MATHILDE van Limburg (-after 1148). The origin of the wife of Henri [I] Comte de Laroche is determined from a charter dated 1148 in which Wibald abbot of Stavelot names "dominis suis Heinrico de Rupe et Heinrico de Lemburch quorum alter, id est de Rupe, advocatus ecclesie nostre erat et alterius Heinrici amite filius"[48], the former being Henri [II] Comte de Laroche and the latter Hendrik II Duke of Limburg. She is named in the charter dated 1152 under which "Heinricus comes de Rupe" donated property to the abbey of St Hubert referring to "matris mei Mathildis comitisse et Godefridi fratris mei"[49].
"m HENRI [I] de Namur Comte de la Roche, son of ALBERT III Comte de Namur & his wife Ida von Sachsen (-before 5 Jun 1138)."
Med Lands cites:
Mathilde (?) von Limburg was born circa 1095.2
Mathilde (?) von Limburg died after 1148; Genealogy.EU says d. 1141; Med Lands says d. aft 1148.8,6
; Per Med Lands:
"HENRI de Namur, son of ALBERT III Comte de Namur & his wife Ida von Sachsen (-before 1138). The Genealogica comitum Buloniensium names "Godefridum et Henricum comitem de Rupe" sons of "Albertus de Namurco"[146]. Comte de La Roche. Vogt of Stablo-Malmédy. "Heinricus advocatus et filius eius Heinricus, Godefridus de Asca et comes de Dorbui Heinricus adhuc puer" subscribed the charter dated 1124 under which "Cuono…Stabulensis abbas" recounted the settlement reached over the church of Bra[147].
"m MATHILDE van Limburg, daughter of HENDRIK [I] Graaf van Limburg & his [second] wife Adelheid von Botenstein (-after 1148). "Heinricus comes de Rupe" donated property to the abbey of St Hubert by charter dated 1152 which names "matris mei Mathildis comitisse et Godefridi fratris mei"[148]. Her origin is determined from a charter dated 1148 in which Wibald abbot of Stavelot names "dominis suis Heinrico de Rupe et Heinrico de Lemburch quorum alter, id est de Rupe, advocatus ecclesie nostre erat et alterius Heinrici amite filius"[149], the former being Henri [II] Comte de La Roche and the latter Hendrik [II] Duke of Limburg. "
Med Lands cites:
[146] Genealogica comitum Buloniensium MGH SS IX, p. 301.
[147] Stavelot I, 143, p. 289.
[148] Namur, 33, p. 70.
[149] Stavelot I, 208, p. 413.10
[147] Stavelot I, 143, p. 289.
[148] Namur, 33, p. 70.
[149] Stavelot I, 208, p. 413.10
; Per Genealogy.EU: "Matilda, *ca 1095; m.Henri de Namur, Cte de la Roche."2
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VI 26.5
; Per Racines et Histoire: "2) Mathilde van Limburg ° ~1095 + après 1148 (citée charte 1148 de Wibald, Abbé de Stavelot)
ép. Henri 1er de Namur, comte de La Roche + avant 05/06/1138 (fils d’Albert III, comte de Namur, et d’Ide von Sachsen.)11,10"
; Per Med Lands:
"MATHILDE van Limburg (-after 1148). The origin of the wife of Henri [I] Comte de Laroche is determined from a charter dated 1148 in which Wibald abbot of Stavelot names "dominis suis Heinrico de Rupe et Heinrico de Lemburch quorum alter, id est de Rupe, advocatus ecclesie nostre erat et alterius Heinrici amite filius"[48], the former being Henri [II] Comte de Laroche and the latter Hendrik II Duke of Limburg. She is named in the charter dated 1152 under which "Heinricus comes de Rupe" donated property to the abbey of St Hubert referring to "matris mei Mathildis comitisse et Godefridi fratris mei"[49].
"m HENRI [I] de Namur Comte de la Roche, son of ALBERT III Comte de Namur & his wife Ida von Sachsen (-before 5 Jun 1138)."
Med Lands cites:
[48] Halkin, J. and Roland, C. J. (eds.) (1909) Recueil des Chartes de l'abbaye de Stavelot-Malmédy, Tome I (Brussels) (“Stavelot”) I, 208, p. 413.
[49] Rousseau, F. (ed.) (1936) Actes des Comtes de Namur de la Première Race 946-1196 (Brussels) ("Namur"), 33, p. 70.
[50] Sigeberti Chronica, 1107, MGH SS VI, p. 372.6
[49] Rousseau, F. (ed.) (1936) Actes des Comtes de Namur de la Première Race 946-1196 (Brussels) ("Namur"), 33, p. 70.
[50] Sigeberti Chronica, 1107, MGH SS VI, p. 372.6
Family | Henri I (?) de Namur, Comte de La Roche b. 1070, d. b 1138 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde von Limburg: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197508&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 8 page (The Luxemburg Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg8.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Heinrich I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00050321&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LIMBURG.htm#HendrikILimburgdied1119Case1. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde von Limburg: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197508&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LIMBURG.htm#Adelhieddied1146
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adelheid von Pottenstein: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00444551&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 2 page (The Luxemburg Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henri I de Namur: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027134&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(LOWER)%20NOBILITY.htm#HenriNamurLarochediedbefore1138B
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Duché de Limbourg, p.3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Limbourg.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Béatrix de Namur: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027138&tree=LEO
- [S2121] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 4 Jan 2007: "the house of Avesnes, and the advocates of Tournai"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/RWs6Dh0Y6uw/m/LdZiVfpelkoJ) to e-mail address, 4 Jan 2007, https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/RWs6Dh0Y6uw/m/LdZiVfpelkoJ. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 4 Jan 2007."
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde (Mahaut) de La Roche: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027142&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille & seigneurs d’ Avesnes, p. 3; http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avesnes.pdf
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(LOWER)%20NOBILITY.htm#MathildelaRocheM2NicolasAvesnes
Henri II (?) Comte de Laroche1
M, #61694, d. circa 1153
Father | Henri I (?) de Namur, Comte de La Roche1,2,3 b. 1070, d. b 1138 |
Mother | Mathilde (?) von Limburg1,4,3 b. c 1095, d. a 1148 |
Last Edited | 18 Dec 2020 |
Henri II (?) Comte de Laroche married Elizabeth (?)1
Henri II (?) Comte de Laroche died circa 1153.1
; Per Med Lands:
"MATHILDE de La Roche . The Genealogica comitum Buloniensium names "Mathildis" daughter of "Henricum comitem de Rupe"[159]. The Chronicon Hanonense of Baudouin d’Avesnes names "Mehaut" as daughter of "Henri…quens de Durbuis", her first husband "signour de Wallecourt Weri de Walecourt" and her second husband "Nicholas d'Avesnes"[160]. The Chronicon Hanoniense of Giselbert names "Mathildem filiam Henrici comitis de Roche in Ardenna" as wife of "Nicholaus filius [Walteri…de Avethnes]", adding that she obtained “comitatum de Rocha et advocatias Stabulacensis ecclesia” from the comte de Namur and the emperor[161]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Fredericus archidyaconus Sancti Lamberti Leodiensis, qui postea factus archiepiscopus de Tyre, et soror eius Mathildis" as children of "Albertus de Rupe", specifying that Mathilde married firstly "Theoderico de Walecurt" by whom she was mother of "Werricum de Rupeforti et matrem Theoderici de Hufalize, cuius filius Henricus de Hufalize", and secondly "Nicolao de Avenes"[162]. The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "filius eius Nicolaus Plukellus" married "Machtildem filiam Henrici comitis de Rupe in Ardenna", whose first husband was "domini de Walecourt"[163].
"m firstly THIERRY [I] Seigneur de Walcourt, son of WERY [I] Seigneur de Walcourt & his wife Adelaide --- (-[1147/48]).
"m secondly (before 1150) NICOLAS d'Oisy Seigneur d'Avesnes, son of WAUTIER [I] d'Oisy & his wife Ade [Ide] de Mortagne (-[1169/71])."
Med Lands cites:
Henri II (?) Comte de Laroche died circa 1153.1
; Per Med Lands:
"MATHILDE de La Roche . The Genealogica comitum Buloniensium names "Mathildis" daughter of "Henricum comitem de Rupe"[159]. The Chronicon Hanonense of Baudouin d’Avesnes names "Mehaut" as daughter of "Henri…quens de Durbuis", her first husband "signour de Wallecourt Weri de Walecourt" and her second husband "Nicholas d'Avesnes"[160]. The Chronicon Hanoniense of Giselbert names "Mathildem filiam Henrici comitis de Roche in Ardenna" as wife of "Nicholaus filius [Walteri…de Avethnes]", adding that she obtained “comitatum de Rocha et advocatias Stabulacensis ecclesia” from the comte de Namur and the emperor[161]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Fredericus archidyaconus Sancti Lamberti Leodiensis, qui postea factus archiepiscopus de Tyre, et soror eius Mathildis" as children of "Albertus de Rupe", specifying that Mathilde married firstly "Theoderico de Walecurt" by whom she was mother of "Werricum de Rupeforti et matrem Theoderici de Hufalize, cuius filius Henricus de Hufalize", and secondly "Nicolao de Avenes"[162]. The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "filius eius Nicolaus Plukellus" married "Machtildem filiam Henrici comitis de Rupe in Ardenna", whose first husband was "domini de Walecourt"[163].
"m firstly THIERRY [I] Seigneur de Walcourt, son of WERY [I] Seigneur de Walcourt & his wife Adelaide --- (-[1147/48]).
"m secondly (before 1150) NICOLAS d'Oisy Seigneur d'Avesnes, son of WAUTIER [I] d'Oisy & his wife Ade [Ide] de Mortagne (-[1169/71])."
Med Lands cites:
[159] Genealogica comitum Buloniensium MGH SS IX, p. 301.
[160] Chronicon Hanonense quod dicitur Balduini Avennensis 47, MGH SS XXV, p. 420.
[161] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 511.
[162] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 853.
[163] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, p. 560.5
[160] Chronicon Hanonense quod dicitur Balduini Avennensis 47, MGH SS XXV, p. 420.
[161] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 511.
[162] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 853.
[163] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, p. 560.5
Family | Elizabeth (?) |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 2 page (The Luxemburg Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henri I de Namur: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027134&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(LOWER)%20NOBILITY.htm#HenriNamurLarochediedbefore1138B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde von Limburg: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197508&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(LOWER)%20NOBILITY.htm#MathildelaRocheM2NicolasAvesnes
Thierry I de Walcourt Seigneur de Walcourt1,2
M, #61695, d. circa 1147
Last Edited | 18 Dec 2020 |
Thierry I de Walcourt Seigneur de Walcourt married Mathilde/Mahaut/Maud de La Roche, daughter of Henri I (?) de Namur, Comte de La Roche and Mathilde (?) von Limburg,
;
Her 1st husband.3,4,5,6,7,1,2
Thierry I de Walcourt Seigneur de Walcourt died circa 1147; Genealogy.EU (Luxemburg 2) says d. ca 1147; Racines et Histoire (Avesnes) says d. aft 1147; Med Lands says d. 1147/48.4,8
; Per Genealogy.EU (Luxemburg 2): “F4. Matilda de Laroche, *1133; 1m: Thierry I de Walcourt (+ca 1147); 2m: before 1150 Nicolas d'Avesnes (+1169/71)”.9
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VI 110.1
; Per Med Lands:
"THIERRY [I] de Walcourt (-[1147/48]). "...Theodorici filii Widerici de Valcourt..." subscribed the charter dated [1126/37] under which Henri Bishop of Toul confirmed donations to Saint-Mansuy made by “Simon...dux Lotharingorum et marchio...”[1073]. Seigneur de Walcourt. "Theodoricus dominus Hornensis" acknowledged receipt of money from "Arnulphum dominum et avunculum comitem Lossensem" and also holding the castle of Horn from him, by charter dated 1147, witnessed by "Theodorici comitis de Hostade, generi nostri Godefridi comitis Durasii, Giselberti subadvocati sancti Trudonis, Alberonis Lossensis et Arnoldi domini de Stinvort, fratrum et cognatorum nostrorum, Arnoldi D. de Peterssem, domini Theodorici D. de Walicuria…"[1074]. The Chronicon Hanonense of Baudouin d’Avesnes names "signour de Wallecourt Weri de Walecourt" when recording his marriage[1075].
"m as her first husband, MATHILDE de la Roche, daughter of HENRI [I] de Namur Comte de la Roche & his wife Mathilde de Limbourg. The Genealogica comitum Buloniensium names "Mathildis" daughter of "Henricum comitem de Rupe"[1076]. The Chronicon Hanonense of Baudouin d’Avesnes names "Mehaut" as daughter of "Henri…quens de Durbuis", her first husband "signour de Wallecourt Weri de Walecourt" and her second husband "Nicholas d'Avesnes"[1077]. The Chronicon Hanoniense of Giselbert names "Mathildem filiam Henrici comitis de Roche in Ardenna" as wife of "Nicholaus filius [Walteri…de Avethnes]", adding that she obtained “comitatum de Rocha et advocatias Stabulacensis ecclesia” from the comte de Namur and the emperor[1078]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Fredericus archidyaconus Sancti Lamberti Leodiensis, qui postea factus archiepiscopus de Tyre, et soror eius Mathildis" as children of "Albertus de Rupe", specifying that Mathilde married firstly "Theoderico de Walecurt" by whom she was mother of "Werricum de Rupeforti et matrem Theoderici de Hufalize, cuius filius Henricus de Hufalize", and secondly "Nicolao de Avenes"[1079]. The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "filius eius Nicolaus Plukellus" married "Machtildem filiam Henrici comitis de Rupe in Ardenna", whose first husband was "domini de Walecourt"[1080]. She married secondly (before 1150) Nicolas d'Oisy Seigneur d'Avesnes."
Med Lands cites:
;
Her 1st husband.3,4,5,6,7,1,2
Thierry I de Walcourt Seigneur de Walcourt died circa 1147; Genealogy.EU (Luxemburg 2) says d. ca 1147; Racines et Histoire (Avesnes) says d. aft 1147; Med Lands says d. 1147/48.4,8
; Per Genealogy.EU (Luxemburg 2): “F4. Matilda de Laroche, *1133; 1m: Thierry I de Walcourt (+ca 1147); 2m: before 1150 Nicolas d'Avesnes (+1169/71)”.9
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VI 110.1
; Per Med Lands:
"THIERRY [I] de Walcourt (-[1147/48]). "...Theodorici filii Widerici de Valcourt..." subscribed the charter dated [1126/37] under which Henri Bishop of Toul confirmed donations to Saint-Mansuy made by “Simon...dux Lotharingorum et marchio...”[1073]. Seigneur de Walcourt. "Theodoricus dominus Hornensis" acknowledged receipt of money from "Arnulphum dominum et avunculum comitem Lossensem" and also holding the castle of Horn from him, by charter dated 1147, witnessed by "Theodorici comitis de Hostade, generi nostri Godefridi comitis Durasii, Giselberti subadvocati sancti Trudonis, Alberonis Lossensis et Arnoldi domini de Stinvort, fratrum et cognatorum nostrorum, Arnoldi D. de Peterssem, domini Theodorici D. de Walicuria…"[1074]. The Chronicon Hanonense of Baudouin d’Avesnes names "signour de Wallecourt Weri de Walecourt" when recording his marriage[1075].
"m as her first husband, MATHILDE de la Roche, daughter of HENRI [I] de Namur Comte de la Roche & his wife Mathilde de Limbourg. The Genealogica comitum Buloniensium names "Mathildis" daughter of "Henricum comitem de Rupe"[1076]. The Chronicon Hanonense of Baudouin d’Avesnes names "Mehaut" as daughter of "Henri…quens de Durbuis", her first husband "signour de Wallecourt Weri de Walecourt" and her second husband "Nicholas d'Avesnes"[1077]. The Chronicon Hanoniense of Giselbert names "Mathildem filiam Henrici comitis de Roche in Ardenna" as wife of "Nicholaus filius [Walteri…de Avethnes]", adding that she obtained “comitatum de Rocha et advocatias Stabulacensis ecclesia” from the comte de Namur and the emperor[1078]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Fredericus archidyaconus Sancti Lamberti Leodiensis, qui postea factus archiepiscopus de Tyre, et soror eius Mathildis" as children of "Albertus de Rupe", specifying that Mathilde married firstly "Theoderico de Walecurt" by whom she was mother of "Werricum de Rupeforti et matrem Theoderici de Hufalize, cuius filius Henricus de Hufalize", and secondly "Nicolao de Avenes"[1079]. The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "filius eius Nicolaus Plukellus" married "Machtildem filiam Henrici comitis de Rupe in Ardenna", whose first husband was "domini de Walecourt"[1080]. She married secondly (before 1150) Nicolas d'Oisy Seigneur d'Avesnes."
Med Lands cites:
[1073] Calmet (1748), Tome V, Preuves, col. clxi.
[1074] Wolters, M. J. (ed.) (1849) Codex Diplomaticus Lossensis (Gand) 90, p. 48.
[1075] Chronicon Hanonense quod dicitur Balduini Avennensis 47, MGH SS XXV, p. 420.
[1076] Genealogica comitum Buloniensium MGH SS IX, p. 301.
[1077] Chronicon Hanonense quod dicitur Balduini Avennensis 47, MGH SS XXV, p. 420.
[1078] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 511.
[1079] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 853.
[1080] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, p. 560.8
He was living in 1130.1[1074] Wolters, M. J. (ed.) (1849) Codex Diplomaticus Lossensis (Gand) 90, p. 48.
[1075] Chronicon Hanonense quod dicitur Balduini Avennensis 47, MGH SS XXV, p. 420.
[1076] Genealogica comitum Buloniensium MGH SS IX, p. 301.
[1077] Chronicon Hanonense quod dicitur Balduini Avennensis 47, MGH SS XXV, p. 420.
[1078] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 511.
[1079] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 853.
[1080] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, p. 560.8
Family | Mathilde/Mahaut/Maud de La Roche b. c 1133 |
Child |
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thierry I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027145&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NAMUR.htm#ThierryWalcourtdied1147. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thierry I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027145&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 2 page (The Luxemburg Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg2.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Aubigne.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde (Mahaut) de La Roche: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027142&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(LOWER)%20NOBILITY.htm#MathildelaRocheM2NicolasAvesnes
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille & seigneurs d’ Avesnes, p. 3; http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avesnes.pdf
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 2 page (The Luxemburg Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg2.html#MHL
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Wéry III de Walcourt: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00165121&tree=LEO
Wery III de Walcourt Sire de Walcourt, Comte de Montaigu1
M, #61696, d. after 1165
Father | Thierry I de Walcourt Seigneur de Walcourt1,2,3 d. c 1147 |
Mother | Mathilde/Mahaut/Maud de La Roche1,4,3 b. c 1133 |
Last Edited | 18 Dec 2020 |
Wery III de Walcourt Sire de Walcourt, Comte de Montaigu married Gerberga de Montaigu, daughter of Gottfried (?) Count de Montaigu.5
Wery III de Walcourt Sire de Walcourt, Comte de Montaigu died after 1165.1
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VI 110.1 He was living in 1165.1
Wery III de Walcourt Sire de Walcourt, Comte de Montaigu died after 1165.1
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VI 110.1 He was living in 1165.1
Family | Gerberga de Montaigu |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Wéry III de Walcourt: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00165121&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thierry I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027145&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille & seigneurs d’ Avesnes, p. 3; http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avesnes.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde (Mahaut) de La Roche: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027142&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gerberga de Montaigu: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00165122&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thierry II de Walcourt: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00165123&tree=LEO
Gerberga de Montaigu1
F, #61697
Father | Gottfried (?) Count de Montaigu2 |
Last Edited | 14 Feb 2004 |
Gerberga de Montaigu married Wery III de Walcourt Sire de Walcourt, Comte de Montaigu, son of Thierry I de Walcourt Seigneur de Walcourt and Mathilde/Mahaut/Maud de La Roche.1
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VI 110.1
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VI 110.1
Family | Wery III de Walcourt Sire de Walcourt, Comte de Montaigu d. a 1165 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gerberga de Montaigu: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00165122&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gottfried: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174719&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thierry II de Walcourt: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00165123&tree=LEO
Gottfried (?) Count de Montaigu1
M, #61698
Last Edited | 14 Feb 2004 |
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VI 110.1
Family | |
Child |
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gottfried: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174719&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
Hendrik II van Cuyck Stadgraff van Utrecht1
M, #61699, b. circa 1130, d. between 1204 and 1205
Father | Herman van Malsen Heer van Kuyk and Grave, Stadgraaf van Utrecht4,5,3 d. a 1121 |
Mother | NN de Chiny2,3 |
Reference | EDV27 |
Last Edited | 11 Nov 2020 |
Hendrik II van Cuyck Stadgraff van Utrecht was born circa 1130.5,3 He married Sophia van Renen Heiress of Herpen, daughter of Dirck van Renen Heer van Herpen and NN van Bierbeek?, in 1160.5,3,6
Hendrik II van Cuyck Stadgraff van Utrecht died between 1204 and 1205.5,3
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"HENDRIK van Kuyc ([1130]-1204). His parentage is indicated by the charter dated 20 Jun 1233 which is quoted below. Heer van Kuyc. He is named in the charter dated 20 Jun 1233 under which “Godefridus...comes in Arnesbergh” confirmed the donation of “dimidium mansum in Halle...” to Marienweerd made by “ego et frater meus dominus Henricus bone memorie...commune cum nobili viro Henrico bone memorie cognato nostro domino de Kuyc”[996].
"m SOPHIA van Renen, daughter of DIRK van Renen Burggraaf van Utrecht & his wife ---. Bishop Godfried´s testament dated 9 Apr 1178 names "pater meus Godefridus de Renen" and refers to the distribution of his possessions "de Brabantia" to his three sons "Theoderico, Gerlaco et Arnoldo clerico" and to "Hugoni fratri meo, et michi Godefrido, et sorori Helewigi", with reversion to “Godefridus cognatus meus...filiis...Sophie neptis mee et Henricus de Kuc”[997]. Her parentage and marriage are indicated by the charter dated 19 Apr 1219 under which [her daughter] “Lutgardis domina de Scotis” donated “duodecim libras Flandrensis monete...apud Serber et...apud Perke loco...Bukt” to Antwerp St. Michiel, for the souls of [her paternal uncles] “...domini Godefridi quondam Traiectensis episcopi et Gerlaci fratris ipsius...a quibus bona...michi remanserunt”[998]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"SOPHIA van Renen (-after 1203). Bishop Godfried´s testament dated 9 Apr 1178 names "pater meus Godefridus de Renen" and refers to the distribution of his possessions "de Brabantia" to his three sons "Theoderico, Gerlaco et Arnoldo clerico" and to "Hugoni fratri meo, et michi Godefrido, et sorori Helewigi", with reversion to “Godefridus cognatus meus...filiis...Sophie neptis mee et Henricus de Kuc”[66]. Her parentage and marriage are indicated by the charter dated 19 Apr 1219 under which [her daughter] “Lutgardis domina de Scotis” donated “duodecim libras Flandrensis monete...apud Serber et...apud Perke loco...Bukt” to Antwerp St. Michiel, for the souls of [her paternal uncles] “...domini Godefridi quondam Traiectensis episcopi et Gerlaci fratris ipsius...a quibus bona...michi remanserunt”[67].
"m ([1160]) HENDRIK [II] Heer van Kuyc, son of HERMAN Heer van Kuyc & his wife --- ([1130]-1204)."
Med Lands cites:
Hendrik II van Cuyck Stadgraff van Utrecht died between 1204 and 1205.5,3
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VIII 35.
2. Afstammingseeksen van de Hertogen van Brabant, Woerden, 2006, Hamers, Vic; Rob Dix, Zeno Deurvorst. 215.3
EDV-27. Hendrik II van Cuyck Stadgraff van Utrecht was also known as Hendrik van Kuyc Heer van Kuyc.5 2. Afstammingseeksen van de Hertogen van Brabant, Woerden, 2006, Hamers, Vic; Rob Dix, Zeno Deurvorst. 215.3
; Per Med Lands:
"HENDRIK van Kuyc ([1130]-1204). His parentage is indicated by the charter dated 20 Jun 1233 which is quoted below. Heer van Kuyc. He is named in the charter dated 20 Jun 1233 under which “Godefridus...comes in Arnesbergh” confirmed the donation of “dimidium mansum in Halle...” to Marienweerd made by “ego et frater meus dominus Henricus bone memorie...commune cum nobili viro Henrico bone memorie cognato nostro domino de Kuyc”[996].
"m SOPHIA van Renen, daughter of DIRK van Renen Burggraaf van Utrecht & his wife ---. Bishop Godfried´s testament dated 9 Apr 1178 names "pater meus Godefridus de Renen" and refers to the distribution of his possessions "de Brabantia" to his three sons "Theoderico, Gerlaco et Arnoldo clerico" and to "Hugoni fratri meo, et michi Godefrido, et sorori Helewigi", with reversion to “Godefridus cognatus meus...filiis...Sophie neptis mee et Henricus de Kuc”[997]. Her parentage and marriage are indicated by the charter dated 19 Apr 1219 under which [her daughter] “Lutgardis domina de Scotis” donated “duodecim libras Flandrensis monete...apud Serber et...apud Perke loco...Bukt” to Antwerp St. Michiel, for the souls of [her paternal uncles] “...domini Godefridi quondam Traiectensis episcopi et Gerlaci fratris ipsius...a quibus bona...michi remanserunt”[998]."
Med Lands cites:
[996] Marienweerd, 55, p. 39.
[997] Sloet (1872), 350, p. 344.
[998] Oorkondenboek Noord-Brabant, II, Eerste stuk, 950, p. 175.5
[997] Sloet (1872), 350, p. 344.
[998] Oorkondenboek Noord-Brabant, II, Eerste stuk, 950, p. 175.5
; Per Med Lands:
"SOPHIA van Renen (-after 1203). Bishop Godfried´s testament dated 9 Apr 1178 names "pater meus Godefridus de Renen" and refers to the distribution of his possessions "de Brabantia" to his three sons "Theoderico, Gerlaco et Arnoldo clerico" and to "Hugoni fratri meo, et michi Godefrido, et sorori Helewigi", with reversion to “Godefridus cognatus meus...filiis...Sophie neptis mee et Henricus de Kuc”[66]. Her parentage and marriage are indicated by the charter dated 19 Apr 1219 under which [her daughter] “Lutgardis domina de Scotis” donated “duodecim libras Flandrensis monete...apud Serber et...apud Perke loco...Bukt” to Antwerp St. Michiel, for the souls of [her paternal uncles] “...domini Godefridi quondam Traiectensis episcopi et Gerlaci fratris ipsius...a quibus bona...michi remanserunt”[67].
"m ([1160]) HENDRIK [II] Heer van Kuyc, son of HERMAN Heer van Kuyc & his wife --- ([1130]-1204)."
Med Lands cites:
[66] Sloet (1872), 350, p. 344.
[67] Oorkondenboek Noord-Brabant, II, Eerste stuk, 950, p. 175.7
[67] Oorkondenboek Noord-Brabant, II, Eerste stuk, 950, p. 175.7
Family | Sophia van Renen Heiress of Herpen d. a 1203 |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hendrik II van Cuyck: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174649&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN (de Chiny ?): http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174648&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hendrik II van Cuyck: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00580821&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Herman van Malsen: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174647&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/DUTCH%20NOBILITY.htm#HendrikCuykdied1204. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sophia van Renen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00580822&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/DUTCH%20NOBILITY.htm#SophiaRenenMHendrikCuyk
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ludgardis van Perk: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00197092&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Albrecht van Cuyck: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174651&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alveradis van Cuyck: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00096265&tree=LEO
Sophia van Renen Heiress of Herpen1
F, #61700, d. after 1203
Father | Dirck van Renen Heer van Herpen2,3,4 d. bt 1170 - 1177 |
Mother | NN van Bierbeek?5 |
Reference | EDV27 |
Last Edited | 11 Nov 2020 |
Sophia van Renen Heiress of Herpen married Hendrik II van Cuyck Stadgraff van Utrecht, son of Herman van Malsen Heer van Kuyk and Grave, Stadgraaf van Utrecht and NN de Chiny, in 1160.6,7,2
Sophia van Renen Heiress of Herpen died after 1203.1,2,8
; Per Med Lands:
"HENDRIK van Kuyc ([1130]-1204). His parentage is indicated by the charter dated 20 Jun 1233 which is quoted below. Heer van Kuyc. He is named in the charter dated 20 Jun 1233 under which “Godefridus...comes in Arnesbergh” confirmed the donation of “dimidium mansum in Halle...” to Marienweerd made by “ego et frater meus dominus Henricus bone memorie...commune cum nobili viro Henrico bone memorie cognato nostro domino de Kuyc”[996].
"m SOPHIA van Renen, daughter of DIRK van Renen Burggraaf van Utrecht & his wife ---. Bishop Godfried´s testament dated 9 Apr 1178 names "pater meus Godefridus de Renen" and refers to the distribution of his possessions "de Brabantia" to his three sons "Theoderico, Gerlaco et Arnoldo clerico" and to "Hugoni fratri meo, et michi Godefrido, et sorori Helewigi", with reversion to “Godefridus cognatus meus...filiis...Sophie neptis mee et Henricus de Kuc”[997]. Her parentage and marriage are indicated by the charter dated 19 Apr 1219 under which [her daughter] “Lutgardis domina de Scotis” donated “duodecim libras Flandrensis monete...apud Serber et...apud Perke loco...Bukt” to Antwerp St. Michiel, for the souls of [her paternal uncles] “...domini Godefridi quondam Traiectensis episcopi et Gerlaci fratris ipsius...a quibus bona...michi remanserunt”[998]."
Med Lands cites:
Reference: Genealogics cites:
Reference: EDV-27.
; Per Med Lands:
"SOPHIA van Renen (-after 1203). Bishop Godfried´s testament dated 9 Apr 1178 names "pater meus Godefridus de Renen" and refers to the distribution of his possessions "de Brabantia" to his three sons "Theoderico, Gerlaco et Arnoldo clerico" and to "Hugoni fratri meo, et michi Godefrido, et sorori Helewigi", with reversion to “Godefridus cognatus meus...filiis...Sophie neptis mee et Henricus de Kuc”[66]. Her parentage and marriage are indicated by the charter dated 19 Apr 1219 under which [her daughter] “Lutgardis domina de Scotis” donated “duodecim libras Flandrensis monete...apud Serber et...apud Perke loco...Bukt” to Antwerp St. Michiel, for the souls of [her paternal uncles] “...domini Godefridi quondam Traiectensis episcopi et Gerlaci fratris ipsius...a quibus bona...michi remanserunt”[67].
"m ([1160]) HENDRIK [II] Heer van Kuyc, son of HERMAN Heer van Kuyc & his wife --- ([1130]-1204)."
Med Lands cites:
Sophia van Renen Heiress of Herpen died after 1203.1,2,8
; Per Med Lands:
"HENDRIK van Kuyc ([1130]-1204). His parentage is indicated by the charter dated 20 Jun 1233 which is quoted below. Heer van Kuyc. He is named in the charter dated 20 Jun 1233 under which “Godefridus...comes in Arnesbergh” confirmed the donation of “dimidium mansum in Halle...” to Marienweerd made by “ego et frater meus dominus Henricus bone memorie...commune cum nobili viro Henrico bone memorie cognato nostro domino de Kuyc”[996].
"m SOPHIA van Renen, daughter of DIRK van Renen Burggraaf van Utrecht & his wife ---. Bishop Godfried´s testament dated 9 Apr 1178 names "pater meus Godefridus de Renen" and refers to the distribution of his possessions "de Brabantia" to his three sons "Theoderico, Gerlaco et Arnoldo clerico" and to "Hugoni fratri meo, et michi Godefrido, et sorori Helewigi", with reversion to “Godefridus cognatus meus...filiis...Sophie neptis mee et Henricus de Kuc”[997]. Her parentage and marriage are indicated by the charter dated 19 Apr 1219 under which [her daughter] “Lutgardis domina de Scotis” donated “duodecim libras Flandrensis monete...apud Serber et...apud Perke loco...Bukt” to Antwerp St. Michiel, for the souls of [her paternal uncles] “...domini Godefridi quondam Traiectensis episcopi et Gerlaci fratris ipsius...a quibus bona...michi remanserunt”[998]."
Med Lands cites:
[996] Marienweerd, 55, p. 39.
[997] Sloet (1872), 350, p. 344.
[998] Oorkondenboek Noord-Brabant, II, Eerste stuk, 950, p. 175.6
[997] Sloet (1872), 350, p. 344.
[998] Oorkondenboek Noord-Brabant, II, Eerste stuk, 950, p. 175.6
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VIII 35.
2. Afstammingseeksen van de Hertogen van Brabant, Woerden, 2006, Hamers, Vic; Rob Dix, Zeno Deurvorst. 215.1
2. Afstammingseeksen van de Hertogen van Brabant, Woerden, 2006, Hamers, Vic; Rob Dix, Zeno Deurvorst. 215.1
Reference: EDV-27.
; Per Med Lands:
"SOPHIA van Renen (-after 1203). Bishop Godfried´s testament dated 9 Apr 1178 names "pater meus Godefridus de Renen" and refers to the distribution of his possessions "de Brabantia" to his three sons "Theoderico, Gerlaco et Arnoldo clerico" and to "Hugoni fratri meo, et michi Godefrido, et sorori Helewigi", with reversion to “Godefridus cognatus meus...filiis...Sophie neptis mee et Henricus de Kuc”[66]. Her parentage and marriage are indicated by the charter dated 19 Apr 1219 under which [her daughter] “Lutgardis domina de Scotis” donated “duodecim libras Flandrensis monete...apud Serber et...apud Perke loco...Bukt” to Antwerp St. Michiel, for the souls of [her paternal uncles] “...domini Godefridi quondam Traiectensis episcopi et Gerlaci fratris ipsius...a quibus bona...michi remanserunt”[67].
"m ([1160]) HENDRIK [II] Heer van Kuyc, son of HERMAN Heer van Kuyc & his wife --- ([1130]-1204)."
Med Lands cites:
[66] Sloet (1872), 350, p. 344.
[67] Oorkondenboek Noord-Brabant, II, Eerste stuk, 950, p. 175.8
She was living in 1191.1[67] Oorkondenboek Noord-Brabant, II, Eerste stuk, 950, p. 175.8
Family | Hendrik II van Cuyck Stadgraff van Utrecht b. c 1130, d. bt 1204 - 1205 |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sophia van Renen: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174650&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sophia van Renen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00580822&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/DUTCH%20NOBILITY.htm#HeilwigRenenMGottfriedArnsberg. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dirk van Rhenen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00580818&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN (van Bierbeek ?): https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00580819&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/DUTCH%20NOBILITY.htm#HendrikCuykdied1204
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hendrik II van Cuyck: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00580821&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/DUTCH%20NOBILITY.htm#SophiaRenenMHendrikCuyk
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Albrecht van Cuyck: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174651&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alveradis van Cuyck: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00096265&tree=LEO
Albrecht van Cuyck Stadgraff van Utrecht, Heer van Herpen and Merum1
M, #61701, d. 1233
Father | Hendrik II van Cuyck Stadgraff van Utrecht1,3,4 b. c 1130, d. bt 1204 - 1205 |
Mother | Sophia van Renen Heiress of Herpen1,2 d. a 1203 |
Last Edited | 15 Mar 2020 |
Albrecht van Cuyck Stadgraff van Utrecht, Heer van Herpen and Merum died in 1233.1
Reference: Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VIII 35
2. Kwartieren Greidanus-Jaeger in Stamreeksen 1994, 's-Gravenhage., Mr. G.J.J. van Wimersma Greidanus, Reference: 773.1
Reference: Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VIII 35
2. Kwartieren Greidanus-Jaeger in Stamreeksen 1994, 's-Gravenhage., Mr. G.J.J. van Wimersma Greidanus, Reference: 773.1
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Albrecht van Cuyck: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174651&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sophia van Renen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00580822&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/DUTCH%20NOBILITY.htm#HendrikCuykdied1204. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hendrik II van Cuyck: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00580821&tree=LEO
Alveradis van Cuyck1
F, #61702, b. circa 1165, d. circa 1226
Father | Hendrik II van Cuyck Stadgraff van Utrecht1,2,3 b. c 1130, d. bt 1204 - 1205 |
Mother | Sophia van Renen Heiress of Herpen1,4 d. a 1203 |
Last Edited | 12 Nov 2020 |
Alveradis van Cuyck married Dirk van Voorne Heer van Voorne, Burggraaf van Zeeland, son of Dirk (?) Heer van Voorne and (?) Erfdochter (Heiress) van Naaldwijk,
;
Her 2nd husband.5,6,7,8 Alveradis van Cuyck married Heinrich III von Kessel Graf von Kessel
;
Her 1st husband.9 Alveradis van Cuyck was born circa 1165.1
Alveradis van Cuyck died circa 1226.1
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VI 57.7
; Per Med Lands:
"ALVERADIS van Kuyc (-after [1220/26]). The primary source which confirms her parentage and two marriages has not yet been identified. "Theodericus de Vorren et Alveradis uxor mea" confirmed the donation "in terra nostra in Somerlant" to Ter Does abbey by charter dated to [1220/26][1005].
"m firstly HEINRICH [III] Graf von Kessel, son of --- (-1189 or after).
"m secondly (1197) DIRK Heer van Voorne, son of --- (-after May 1223). "
Med Lands cites: [1005] Oorkondenboek Holland (Supplement), 58, p. 35.6
; Per Med Lands:
"DIRK van Voorne (-after May 1223). "Th….comes Hollandie atque Selandie et Aleidis comitissa" donated property near Zubburg to Middelburg abbey by charter dated 1198, witnessed by "…Hugo de Vorne et Theod. frater eius…"[567]. "Dominus Hugo de Vorren, Theodericus frater eius…" witnessed the charter dated 16 Apr 1204 under which Willem I Count of Holland granted protection to the abbey of Does[568]. "Hugo de Vorren" confirmed the sale of land at Morlodenesse to the abbey of Does made by "Walterus de Cruning" by charter dated 1 Mar 1214, witnessed by "Theodericus et Bartholomeus fratres mei, Henricus de Riswic, Florentius et Heinricus de Vorren…"[569]. "Dominus Hugo de Vorren, Theodericus frater eius…" witnessed the charter dated to [1215] under which Willem I Count of Holland confirmed the abbey of Does in the possession of land in Zuidbeveland[570]. Heer van Voorne. "Theodericus dominus de Voren, Theodericus dapifer Hollandie…Johannes de Putthen…" witnessed the charter dated 5 Dec 1216 under which Willem I Count of Holland confirmed a donation of land "infra Hoymunde jacentes" to Marienweerd abbey[571]. "Balduinus…comes de Benthem et procurator Hollandie" donated property to Middelburg abbey by charter dated 1218 "coram me et domino Theodrico de Vorne" in the presence of "domini Th. de Vorne castellani…"[572]. "Theodericus dominus de Voren" donated land at Middeland to Does abbey by charter dated 29 Jun 1220, witnessed by "dominum meum et cognatum…Willelmum comitem Hollandie et Selandie…"[573]. The family relationship between Dirk van Voorne and Willem I Count of Holland has not yet been traced. "Nobilies homines mei Theodoricus de Althena, Albertus de Kuch, Theodorus de Vorne…" witnessed the charter dated Jul 1220 under which Willem I Count of Holland granted Dordrecht and other property to his wife[574]. Burggraaf van Zeeland. "Theodericus de Vorren et Alveradis uxor mea" confirmed the donation "in terra nostra in Somerlant" to Ter Does abbey by charter dated to [1220/26][575]. Floris IV Count of Holland "et Theodoricus dominus de Voirne, castellanus Zelandie" held court at Westkappel by charter dated May 1223[576].
"m as her second husband, ALVERADIS van Kuyc, widow of HEINRICH Graf von Kessel, daughter of HENDRIK [II] van Kuyc & his wife Sophie van Renen (-after [1220/26]). The primary source which confirms her parentage and two marriages has not yet been identified. "Theodericus de Vorren et Alveradis uxor mea" confirmed the donation "in terra nostra in Somerlant" to Ter Does abbey by charter dated to [1220/26][577]. Dirk & his wife had five children."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"HEINRICH [III] von Kessel (-1189 or after). Graf von Kessel. Kloster Gladbach bought property in Razlinden by charter dated 1172 witnessed by "Henrico duce de Lenburch, Alberto comite de Molbach, Henrico comite de Kesle, Engilberto comite de Monte, Herimanno comite de Mulennarchen…"[446]. Philipp Archbishop of Köln confirmed the donation of property at Senheim made to the archbishopric by "comite Henrico de Kessele et a Warnero de Brunishor et ab Emmelrico de Reinbag" by charter dated 1188[447]. "…Brunone preposito s. Marie in Colonia eiusque fratre Euerhardo comite de Seyne, Theoderico comite de Widhe et filio eius Theoderico clerico, Reginhere comite de Froisbrecht, Ulrico comite de Nurberg et eius filio Gerhardo comite de Are, Gerhardo comite de Dietsa, Bertholdo comite de Kazinelelnboge, Ludeuico comite de Spanheim, Simone comite de Sarebrucke, Henrico comite de Kessele…" witnessed the charter dated 1189 under which Philipp Archbishop of Köln granted "castrum Stakelecke et advocatiam in Bacherache" to "palatini comitis Cuonradi…et eius iugali domine Irmentrudi eiusque filie Agneti"[448].
"m as her first husband, ALVERADIS van Kuyc, daughter of HENDRIK [II] van Kuyc & his wife Sophie van Renen. The primary source which confirms her parentage and two marriages has not yet been identified. She married secondly Dirk van Voorne. "Theodericus de Vorren et Alveradis uxor mea" confirmed the donation "in terra nostra in Somerlant" to Ter Does abbey by charter dated to [1220/26][449].
"Heinrich [III] & his wife had one child."
Med Lands cites:
;
Her 2nd husband.5,6,7,8 Alveradis van Cuyck married Heinrich III von Kessel Graf von Kessel
;
Her 1st husband.9 Alveradis van Cuyck was born circa 1165.1
Alveradis van Cuyck died circa 1226.1
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VI 57.7
; Per Med Lands:
"ALVERADIS van Kuyc (-after [1220/26]). The primary source which confirms her parentage and two marriages has not yet been identified. "Theodericus de Vorren et Alveradis uxor mea" confirmed the donation "in terra nostra in Somerlant" to Ter Does abbey by charter dated to [1220/26][1005].
"m firstly HEINRICH [III] Graf von Kessel, son of --- (-1189 or after).
"m secondly (1197) DIRK Heer van Voorne, son of --- (-after May 1223). "
Med Lands cites: [1005] Oorkondenboek Holland (Supplement), 58, p. 35.6
; Per Med Lands:
"DIRK van Voorne (-after May 1223). "Th….comes Hollandie atque Selandie et Aleidis comitissa" donated property near Zubburg to Middelburg abbey by charter dated 1198, witnessed by "…Hugo de Vorne et Theod. frater eius…"[567]. "Dominus Hugo de Vorren, Theodericus frater eius…" witnessed the charter dated 16 Apr 1204 under which Willem I Count of Holland granted protection to the abbey of Does[568]. "Hugo de Vorren" confirmed the sale of land at Morlodenesse to the abbey of Does made by "Walterus de Cruning" by charter dated 1 Mar 1214, witnessed by "Theodericus et Bartholomeus fratres mei, Henricus de Riswic, Florentius et Heinricus de Vorren…"[569]. "Dominus Hugo de Vorren, Theodericus frater eius…" witnessed the charter dated to [1215] under which Willem I Count of Holland confirmed the abbey of Does in the possession of land in Zuidbeveland[570]. Heer van Voorne. "Theodericus dominus de Voren, Theodericus dapifer Hollandie…Johannes de Putthen…" witnessed the charter dated 5 Dec 1216 under which Willem I Count of Holland confirmed a donation of land "infra Hoymunde jacentes" to Marienweerd abbey[571]. "Balduinus…comes de Benthem et procurator Hollandie" donated property to Middelburg abbey by charter dated 1218 "coram me et domino Theodrico de Vorne" in the presence of "domini Th. de Vorne castellani…"[572]. "Theodericus dominus de Voren" donated land at Middeland to Does abbey by charter dated 29 Jun 1220, witnessed by "dominum meum et cognatum…Willelmum comitem Hollandie et Selandie…"[573]. The family relationship between Dirk van Voorne and Willem I Count of Holland has not yet been traced. "Nobilies homines mei Theodoricus de Althena, Albertus de Kuch, Theodorus de Vorne…" witnessed the charter dated Jul 1220 under which Willem I Count of Holland granted Dordrecht and other property to his wife[574]. Burggraaf van Zeeland. "Theodericus de Vorren et Alveradis uxor mea" confirmed the donation "in terra nostra in Somerlant" to Ter Does abbey by charter dated to [1220/26][575]. Floris IV Count of Holland "et Theodoricus dominus de Voirne, castellanus Zelandie" held court at Westkappel by charter dated May 1223[576].
"m as her second husband, ALVERADIS van Kuyc, widow of HEINRICH Graf von Kessel, daughter of HENDRIK [II] van Kuyc & his wife Sophie van Renen (-after [1220/26]). The primary source which confirms her parentage and two marriages has not yet been identified. "Theodericus de Vorren et Alveradis uxor mea" confirmed the donation "in terra nostra in Somerlant" to Ter Does abbey by charter dated to [1220/26][577]. Dirk & his wife had five children."
Med Lands cites:
[567] Oorkondenboek Holland Eerste afdeeling, Eerste Deel (1866), 178, p. 110.
[568] Oorkondenboek Holland Eerste afdeeling, Eerste Deel (1866), 196, p. 119.
[569] Oorkondenboek Holland Eerste afdeeling, Eerste Deel (1866), 242, p. 141.
[570] Oorkondenboek Holland Eerste afdeeling, Eerste Deel (1866), 248, p. 144.
[571] Oorkondenboek Holland (Supplement), 36, p. 22.
[572] Oorkondenboek Holland Eerste afdeeling, Eerste Deel (1866), 264, p. 153.
[573] Oorkondenboek Holland Eerste afdeeling, Eerste Deel (1866), 269, p. 155.
[574] Oorkondenboek Holland Eerste afdeeling, Eerste Deel (1866), 270, p. 156.
[575] Oorkondenboek Holland (Supplement), 58, p. 35.
[576] Oorkondenboek Holland Eerste afdeeling, Eerste Deel (1866), 279, p. 160.
[577] Oorkondenboek Holland (Supplement), 58, p. 35.5
[568] Oorkondenboek Holland Eerste afdeeling, Eerste Deel (1866), 196, p. 119.
[569] Oorkondenboek Holland Eerste afdeeling, Eerste Deel (1866), 242, p. 141.
[570] Oorkondenboek Holland Eerste afdeeling, Eerste Deel (1866), 248, p. 144.
[571] Oorkondenboek Holland (Supplement), 36, p. 22.
[572] Oorkondenboek Holland Eerste afdeeling, Eerste Deel (1866), 264, p. 153.
[573] Oorkondenboek Holland Eerste afdeeling, Eerste Deel (1866), 269, p. 155.
[574] Oorkondenboek Holland Eerste afdeeling, Eerste Deel (1866), 270, p. 156.
[575] Oorkondenboek Holland (Supplement), 58, p. 35.
[576] Oorkondenboek Holland Eerste afdeeling, Eerste Deel (1866), 279, p. 160.
[577] Oorkondenboek Holland (Supplement), 58, p. 35.5
; Per Med Lands:
"HEINRICH [III] von Kessel (-1189 or after). Graf von Kessel. Kloster Gladbach bought property in Razlinden by charter dated 1172 witnessed by "Henrico duce de Lenburch, Alberto comite de Molbach, Henrico comite de Kesle, Engilberto comite de Monte, Herimanno comite de Mulennarchen…"[446]. Philipp Archbishop of Köln confirmed the donation of property at Senheim made to the archbishopric by "comite Henrico de Kessele et a Warnero de Brunishor et ab Emmelrico de Reinbag" by charter dated 1188[447]. "…Brunone preposito s. Marie in Colonia eiusque fratre Euerhardo comite de Seyne, Theoderico comite de Widhe et filio eius Theoderico clerico, Reginhere comite de Froisbrecht, Ulrico comite de Nurberg et eius filio Gerhardo comite de Are, Gerhardo comite de Dietsa, Bertholdo comite de Kazinelelnboge, Ludeuico comite de Spanheim, Simone comite de Sarebrucke, Henrico comite de Kessele…" witnessed the charter dated 1189 under which Philipp Archbishop of Köln granted "castrum Stakelecke et advocatiam in Bacherache" to "palatini comitis Cuonradi…et eius iugali domine Irmentrudi eiusque filie Agneti"[448].
"m as her first husband, ALVERADIS van Kuyc, daughter of HENDRIK [II] van Kuyc & his wife Sophie van Renen. The primary source which confirms her parentage and two marriages has not yet been identified. She married secondly Dirk van Voorne. "Theodericus de Vorren et Alveradis uxor mea" confirmed the donation "in terra nostra in Somerlant" to Ter Does abbey by charter dated to [1220/26][449].
"Heinrich [III] & his wife had one child."
Med Lands cites:
[446] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band I, 443, p. 309.
[447] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band I, 509, p. 357.
[448] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch II, 96, p. 133.
[449] Fremery, J. de (1901) Oorkondenboek van Holland en Zeeland, Supplement (The Hague) ("Oorkondenboek Holland (Supplement)"), 58, p. 35.9
[447] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band I, 509, p. 357.
[448] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch II, 96, p. 133.
[449] Fremery, J. de (1901) Oorkondenboek van Holland en Zeeland, Supplement (The Hague) ("Oorkondenboek Holland (Supplement)"), 58, p. 35.9
Family 1 | Dirk van Voorne Heer van Voorne, Burggraaf van Zeeland d. 31 Dec 1228 |
Family 2 | Heinrich III von Kessel Graf von Kessel d. c 1189 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alveradis van Cuyck: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00096265&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/DUTCH%20NOBILITY.htm#HendrikCuykdied1204. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hendrik II van Cuyck: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00580821&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sophia van Renen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00580822&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/DUTCH%20NOBILITY.htm#HendrikVoornedied1258A
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/DUTCH%20NOBILITY.htm#AlveradisCuykMDirkVoorne
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alveradis van Cuyck: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00096265&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dirk: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00096264&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LIMBURG.htm#HeinrichIIIKesseldied1189
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LIMBURG.htm#HeinrichKesselMUdelhildHengebach
Dirck van Renen Heer van Herpen1
M, #61703, d. between 1170 and 1177
Father | Godfried van Aarschot-Rhenen3 b. b 1125, d. c 1160 |
Mother | Sophia van Bemmel2 |
Reference | EDV28 |
Last Edited | 11 Nov 2020 |
Dirck van Renen Heer van Herpen married NN van Bierbeek?4,5
Dirck van Renen Heer van Herpen died between 1170 and 1177.6
EDV-28.
Reference: Genealogics cites: Afstammingseeksen van de Hertogen van Brabant, Woerden, 2006, Hamers, Vic; Rob Dix, Zeno Deurvorst. 215.1 Dirck van Renen Heer van Herpen was also known as Dirk van Rhenen Burggraf van Utrecht.5
; Per Med Lands:
"DIRK van Renen (-[1170/1177]). "Tidricus de Rene et frater eius Gerlagus…" subscribed the charter dated 1156 under which "Godefridus…Trajectensis ecclesie pontifex" confirmed a donation of revenue to the church of Utrecht St Jan by "Heinrico de Hosterholte"[64]. Bishop Godfried´s testament dated 9 Apr 1178 names "pater meus Godefridus de Renen" and refers to the distribution of his possessions "de Brabantia" to his three sons "Theoderico, Gerlaco et Arnoldo clerico" and to "Hugoni fratri meo, et michi Godefrido, et sorori Helewigi", with reversion to “Godefridus cognatus meus...filiis...Sophie neptis mee et Henricus de Kuc”[65]. Burggraaf van Utrecht.
"m ---. The name of Dirk’s wife is not known."
Med Lands cites:
Dirck van Renen Heer van Herpen died between 1170 and 1177.6
EDV-28.
Reference: Genealogics cites: Afstammingseeksen van de Hertogen van Brabant, Woerden, 2006, Hamers, Vic; Rob Dix, Zeno Deurvorst. 215.1 Dirck van Renen Heer van Herpen was also known as Dirk van Rhenen Burggraf van Utrecht.5
; Per Med Lands:
"DIRK van Renen (-[1170/1177]). "Tidricus de Rene et frater eius Gerlagus…" subscribed the charter dated 1156 under which "Godefridus…Trajectensis ecclesie pontifex" confirmed a donation of revenue to the church of Utrecht St Jan by "Heinrico de Hosterholte"[64]. Bishop Godfried´s testament dated 9 Apr 1178 names "pater meus Godefridus de Renen" and refers to the distribution of his possessions "de Brabantia" to his three sons "Theoderico, Gerlaco et Arnoldo clerico" and to "Hugoni fratri meo, et michi Godefrido, et sorori Helewigi", with reversion to “Godefridus cognatus meus...filiis...Sophie neptis mee et Henricus de Kuc”[65]. Burggraaf van Utrecht.
"m ---. The name of Dirk’s wife is not known."
Med Lands cites:
[64] Oorkondenboek Holland (Supplement), 11, p. 6.
[65] Sloet (1872), 350, p. 344.6
[65] Sloet (1872), 350, p. 344.6
Family | NN van Bierbeek? |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dirck van Renen: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174657&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sophia: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00580817&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Godfried van Aarschot-Rhenen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00580816&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN (van Bierbeek ?): https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00580819&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dirk van Rhenen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00580818&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/DUTCH%20NOBILITY.htm#HeilwigRenenMGottfriedArnsberg. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sophia van Renen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00580822&tree=LEO
NN de Chiny1
F, #61704
Reference | EDV28 |
Last Edited | 11 Nov 2020 |
NN de Chiny married Herman van Malsen Heer van Kuyk and Grave, Stadgraaf van Utrecht, son of Hendrik I (?) Heer van Kuyck and Alveradis von Hochstaden.2,1
EDV-28.
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VIII 35.3
; Per Med Lands:
"HERMAN van Kuyc, son of HENDRIK Heer van Kuyc & his wife Alveradis [von Hochstaden] (-1167 or after). The Chronologia Johannes de Beke names "Godefridus…de Arnsberch ac Hermannus de Kuyc famosi comites et…fratres"[990]. The Annalista Saxo names "Godefridi comitis de Kuc [et] fratre suo Herimanno" recording that the emperor confiscated their ancestral lands[991]. Heer van Kuyc en Grave. “Alveradis mulier nobilis” donated property to Marienweerd, with the consent of “filiis suis Godefrido et Herimanno”, by charter dated 1129[992]. Lothar King of Germany confirmed property of Duisburg by charter dated 8 May 1129 witnessed by "…Comites: …Godefridus et Hermannus de Cuch…"[993]. Lothar King of Germany confirmed the donation to Kloster Siegburg made by "Alverada de Cuck cum suis liberis" by charter dated 2 May 1131 witnessed by "…Comes Gerhardus de Iuliaco, Comes Adolfus de Saffenberch, Gerhardus Hostath, Godefridus et frater eius Herimannus de Chuh, Gerhardus de Mulenarca…"[994]. Konrad III King of Germany dismissed claims by "comes Adelbertus de Noruenich" to property "in silva…Osninch" claimed from Kloster Brauweiler by charter dated 14 Sep 1141, witnessed by "…comes Arnoldus de Cleuia, comes Adolfus de Monte, comes Heinricus de Gelra, comes Adolfus de Saphenberch, Gerardus puer comes de Iuliaco, Godefridus de Arnesberch, Herimannus de Cuich…"[995]. Stadgraaf van Utrecht.
"m ---. The name of Herman’s wife is not known."
Med Lands cites:
EDV-28.
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VIII 35.3
; Per Med Lands:
"HERMAN van Kuyc, son of HENDRIK Heer van Kuyc & his wife Alveradis [von Hochstaden] (-1167 or after). The Chronologia Johannes de Beke names "Godefridus…de Arnsberch ac Hermannus de Kuyc famosi comites et…fratres"[990]. The Annalista Saxo names "Godefridi comitis de Kuc [et] fratre suo Herimanno" recording that the emperor confiscated their ancestral lands[991]. Heer van Kuyc en Grave. “Alveradis mulier nobilis” donated property to Marienweerd, with the consent of “filiis suis Godefrido et Herimanno”, by charter dated 1129[992]. Lothar King of Germany confirmed property of Duisburg by charter dated 8 May 1129 witnessed by "…Comites: …Godefridus et Hermannus de Cuch…"[993]. Lothar King of Germany confirmed the donation to Kloster Siegburg made by "Alverada de Cuck cum suis liberis" by charter dated 2 May 1131 witnessed by "…Comes Gerhardus de Iuliaco, Comes Adolfus de Saffenberch, Gerhardus Hostath, Godefridus et frater eius Herimannus de Chuh, Gerhardus de Mulenarca…"[994]. Konrad III King of Germany dismissed claims by "comes Adelbertus de Noruenich" to property "in silva…Osninch" claimed from Kloster Brauweiler by charter dated 14 Sep 1141, witnessed by "…comes Arnoldus de Cleuia, comes Adolfus de Monte, comes Heinricus de Gelra, comes Adolfus de Saphenberch, Gerardus puer comes de Iuliaco, Godefridus de Arnesberch, Herimannus de Cuich…"[995]. Stadgraaf van Utrecht.
"m ---. The name of Herman’s wife is not known."
Med Lands cites:
[990] Chronologia Johannes de Beke 53b, p. 105.
[991] Annalista Saxo 1136.
[992] Sloet (1872), 249, p. 243.
[993] Lacomblet, T. J. (ed.) (1840) Urkundenbuch für die Geschichte des Niederrheins, Band I (Düsseldorf) ("Niederrheins Urkundenbuch"), 305, p. 200.
[994] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band I, 310, p. 205.
[995] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band I, 343, p. 232.4
[991] Annalista Saxo 1136.
[992] Sloet (1872), 249, p. 243.
[993] Lacomblet, T. J. (ed.) (1840) Urkundenbuch für die Geschichte des Niederrheins, Band I (Düsseldorf) ("Niederrheins Urkundenbuch"), 305, p. 200.
[994] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band I, 310, p. 205.
[995] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band I, 343, p. 232.4
Family | Herman van Malsen Heer van Kuyk and Grave, Stadgraaf van Utrecht d. a 1121 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN (de Chiny ?): http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174648&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Herman van Malsen: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174647&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN (de Chiny ?): https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174648&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/DUTCH%20NOBILITY.htm#HermanCuykMalsendied1167B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hendrik II van Cuyck: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00580821&tree=LEO
Herman van Malsen Heer van Kuyk and Grave, Stadgraaf van Utrecht1
M, #61705, d. after 1121
Father | Hendrik I (?) Heer van Kuyck3,1,4 d. a 1108 |
Mother | Alveradis von Hochstaden2,1 d. a 1108 |
Reference | EDV28 |
Last Edited | 11 Nov 2020 |
Herman van Malsen Heer van Kuyk and Grave, Stadgraaf van Utrecht married NN de Chiny.1,5
Herman van Malsen Heer van Kuyk and Grave, Stadgraaf van Utrecht died after 1121.1
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VIII 35.6 EDV-28.
; Per Med Lands:
"HERMAN van Kuyc, son of HENDRIK Heer van Kuyc & his wife Alveradis [von Hochstaden] (-1167 or after). The Chronologia Johannes de Beke names "Godefridus…de Arnsberch ac Hermannus de Kuyc famosi comites et…fratres"[990]. The Annalista Saxo names "Godefridi comitis de Kuc [et] fratre suo Herimanno" recording that the emperor confiscated their ancestral lands[991]. Heer van Kuyc en Grave. “Alveradis mulier nobilis” donated property to Marienweerd, with the consent of “filiis suis Godefrido et Herimanno”, by charter dated 1129[992]. Lothar King of Germany confirmed property of Duisburg by charter dated 8 May 1129 witnessed by "…Comites: …Godefridus et Hermannus de Cuch…"[993]. Lothar King of Germany confirmed the donation to Kloster Siegburg made by "Alverada de Cuck cum suis liberis" by charter dated 2 May 1131 witnessed by "…Comes Gerhardus de Iuliaco, Comes Adolfus de Saffenberch, Gerhardus Hostath, Godefridus et frater eius Herimannus de Chuh, Gerhardus de Mulenarca…"[994]. Konrad III King of Germany dismissed claims by "comes Adelbertus de Noruenich" to property "in silva…Osninch" claimed from Kloster Brauweiler by charter dated 14 Sep 1141, witnessed by "…comes Arnoldus de Cleuia, comes Adolfus de Monte, comes Heinricus de Gelra, comes Adolfus de Saphenberch, Gerardus puer comes de Iuliaco, Godefridus de Arnesberch, Herimannus de Cuich…"[995]. Stadgraaf van Utrecht.
"m ---. The name of Herman’s wife is not known."
Med Lands cites:
Herman van Malsen Heer van Kuyk and Grave, Stadgraaf van Utrecht died after 1121.1
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VIII 35.6 EDV-28.
; Per Med Lands:
"HERMAN van Kuyc, son of HENDRIK Heer van Kuyc & his wife Alveradis [von Hochstaden] (-1167 or after). The Chronologia Johannes de Beke names "Godefridus…de Arnsberch ac Hermannus de Kuyc famosi comites et…fratres"[990]. The Annalista Saxo names "Godefridi comitis de Kuc [et] fratre suo Herimanno" recording that the emperor confiscated their ancestral lands[991]. Heer van Kuyc en Grave. “Alveradis mulier nobilis” donated property to Marienweerd, with the consent of “filiis suis Godefrido et Herimanno”, by charter dated 1129[992]. Lothar King of Germany confirmed property of Duisburg by charter dated 8 May 1129 witnessed by "…Comites: …Godefridus et Hermannus de Cuch…"[993]. Lothar King of Germany confirmed the donation to Kloster Siegburg made by "Alverada de Cuck cum suis liberis" by charter dated 2 May 1131 witnessed by "…Comes Gerhardus de Iuliaco, Comes Adolfus de Saffenberch, Gerhardus Hostath, Godefridus et frater eius Herimannus de Chuh, Gerhardus de Mulenarca…"[994]. Konrad III King of Germany dismissed claims by "comes Adelbertus de Noruenich" to property "in silva…Osninch" claimed from Kloster Brauweiler by charter dated 14 Sep 1141, witnessed by "…comes Arnoldus de Cleuia, comes Adolfus de Monte, comes Heinricus de Gelra, comes Adolfus de Saphenberch, Gerardus puer comes de Iuliaco, Godefridus de Arnesberch, Herimannus de Cuich…"[995]. Stadgraaf van Utrecht.
"m ---. The name of Herman’s wife is not known."
Med Lands cites:
[990] Chronologia Johannes de Beke 53b, p. 105.
[991] Annalista Saxo 1136.
[992] Sloet (1872), 249, p. 243.
[993] Lacomblet, T. J. (ed.) (1840) Urkundenbuch für die Geschichte des Niederrheins, Band I (Düsseldorf) ("Niederrheins Urkundenbuch"), 305, p. 200.
[994] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band I, 310, p. 205.
[995] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band I, 343, p. 232.7
He was living in 1121.1[991] Annalista Saxo 1136.
[992] Sloet (1872), 249, p. 243.
[993] Lacomblet, T. J. (ed.) (1840) Urkundenbuch für die Geschichte des Niederrheins, Band I (Düsseldorf) ("Niederrheins Urkundenbuch"), 305, p. 200.
[994] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band I, 310, p. 205.
[995] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band I, 343, p. 232.7
Family | NN de Chiny |
Child |
|
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Herman van Malsen: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174647&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alveradis (von Hochstaden): http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139701&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hendrik I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139700&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HOLLAND.htm#HendrikCuykdied1108. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN (de Chiny ?): http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174648&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Herman van Malsen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174647&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/DUTCH%20NOBILITY.htm#HermanCuykMalsendied1167B
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/DUTCH%20NOBILITY.htm#HendrikCuykdied1204
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hendrik II van Cuyck: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00580821&tree=LEO
Alveradis von Hochstaden1
F, #61706, d. after 1108
Father | Gerhard I von Hochstaden Graf von Hochstaden2 d. a 1096 |
Reference | EDV29 |
Last Edited | 12 Nov 2020 |
Alveradis von Hochstaden married Hendrik I (?) Heer van Kuyck, son of Hermann van Malsen Heer van Kuyc en Malsen and Ide (?) de Boulogne, in 1100.3,1,4
Alveradis von Hochstaden died after 1108.1
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VIII 35.1 EDV-29.
; Per Med Lands:
"ALVERADIS (-after 2 May 1131). Heiress of the Waldgrafschaft Osning. The primary source which confirms her suggested parentage has not yet been identified. “Alveradis mulier nobilis” donated property to Marienweerd, with the consent of “filiis suis Godef[rido et Herimanno”, by charter dated 1129[447]. Lothar King of Germany confirmed the donation to Kloster Siegburg made by "Alverada de Cuck cum suis liberis" by charter dated 2 May 1131 witnessed by "…Comes Gerhardus de Iuliaco, Comes Adolfus de Saffenberch, Gerhardus Hostath, Godefridus et frater eius Herimannus de Chuh, Gerhardus de Mulenarca…"[448].
"m ([1100]) HENDRIK Heer van Kuyc, son of HERMANN [van Malsen] & his wife Ida --- (-1108).]"
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"HENDRIK (-1108). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Heer van Kuyc. "…Henrici de Cuck, Arnulphi de Rode…" witnessed the charter dated 1096 under which "Ida Boloniensis comitissa" donated property in "Genapia" to Afflighem abbey[847].
"m ([1100]) ALVERADIS [von Hochstaden] heiress of the Waldgrafschaft Osning, daughter of [GERHARD [I] Graf von Hochstaden & his wife Aleydis von Wickrath] (-after 2 May 1131). The primary source which confirms her suggested parentage has not yet been identified. “Alveradis mulier nobilis” donated property to Marienweerd, with the consent of “filiis suis Godefrido et Herimanno”, by charter dated 1129[848]. Lothar King of Germany confirmed the donation to Kloster Siegburg made by "Alverada de Cuck cum suis liberis" by charter dated 2 May 1131 witnessed by "…Comes Gerhardus de Iuliaco, Comes Adolfus de Saffenberch, Gerhardus Hostath, Godefridus et frater eius Herimannus de Chuh, Gerhardus de Mulenarca…"[849]."
Med Lands cites:
Alveradis von Hochstaden died after 1108.1
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VIII 35.1 EDV-29.
; Per Med Lands:
"ALVERADIS (-after 2 May 1131). Heiress of the Waldgrafschaft Osning. The primary source which confirms her suggested parentage has not yet been identified. “Alveradis mulier nobilis” donated property to Marienweerd, with the consent of “filiis suis Godef[rido et Herimanno”, by charter dated 1129[447]. Lothar King of Germany confirmed the donation to Kloster Siegburg made by "Alverada de Cuck cum suis liberis" by charter dated 2 May 1131 witnessed by "…Comes Gerhardus de Iuliaco, Comes Adolfus de Saffenberch, Gerhardus Hostath, Godefridus et frater eius Herimannus de Chuh, Gerhardus de Mulenarca…"[448].
"m ([1100]) HENDRIK Heer van Kuyc, son of HERMANN [van Malsen] & his wife Ida --- (-1108).]"
Med Lands cites:
[447] Sloet, L. A. J. W. (ed.) (1872) Ooorkondenboek der graafschappens Gelre en Zutfen, Eerste gedeelte (The Hague), 249, p. 243.
[448] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band I, 310, p. 205.5
[448] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band I, 310, p. 205.5
; Per Med Lands:
"HENDRIK (-1108). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Heer van Kuyc. "…Henrici de Cuck, Arnulphi de Rode…" witnessed the charter dated 1096 under which "Ida Boloniensis comitissa" donated property in "Genapia" to Afflighem abbey[847].
"m ([1100]) ALVERADIS [von Hochstaden] heiress of the Waldgrafschaft Osning, daughter of [GERHARD [I] Graf von Hochstaden & his wife Aleydis von Wickrath] (-after 2 May 1131). The primary source which confirms her suggested parentage has not yet been identified. “Alveradis mulier nobilis” donated property to Marienweerd, with the consent of “filiis suis Godefrido et Herimanno”, by charter dated 1129[848]. Lothar King of Germany confirmed the donation to Kloster Siegburg made by "Alverada de Cuck cum suis liberis" by charter dated 2 May 1131 witnessed by "…Comes Gerhardus de Iuliaco, Comes Adolfus de Saffenberch, Gerhardus Hostath, Godefridus et frater eius Herimannus de Chuh, Gerhardus de Mulenarca…"[849]."
Med Lands cites:
[847] Miraeus (Le Mire), A. (1723) Opera diplomatica et historica, 2nd edn. (Louvain), Tome I, LXVII, p. 77.
[848] Sloet (1872), 249, p. 243.
[849] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band I, 310, p. 205.4
She was living in 1108.1[848] Sloet (1872), 249, p. 243.
[849] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band I, 310, p. 205.4
Family | Hendrik I (?) Heer van Kuyck d. a 1108 |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alveradis (von Hochstaden): http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139701&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANCONIA%20(LOWER%20RHINE).htm#_Toc533866311. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hendrik I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139700&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HOLLAND.htm#HendrikCuykdied1108
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANCONIA%20(LOWER%20RHINE).htm#AlveradisMHendrikCuyk
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Herman van Malsen: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174647&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gottfried I van Kuyck: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00107744&tree=LEO
Hendrik I (?) Heer van Kuyck1
M, #61707, d. after 1108
Father | Hermann van Malsen Heer van Kuyc en Malsen4,1,3,5 d. c 1080 |
Mother | Ide (?) de Boulogne2,1,3 |
Last Edited | 12 Nov 2020 |
Hendrik I (?) Heer van Kuyck married Alveradis von Hochstaden, daughter of Gerhard I von Hochstaden Graf von Hochstaden, in 1100.1,6,3
Hendrik I (?) Heer van Kuyck died after 1108.1,3
; Per Med Lands:
"ALVERADIS (-after 2 May 1131). Heiress of the Waldgrafschaft Osning. The primary source which confirms her suggested parentage has not yet been identified. “Alveradis mulier nobilis” donated property to Marienweerd, with the consent of “filiis suis Godef[rido et Herimanno”, by charter dated 1129[447]. Lothar King of Germany confirmed the donation to Kloster Siegburg made by "Alverada de Cuck cum suis liberis" by charter dated 2 May 1131 witnessed by "…Comes Gerhardus de Iuliaco, Comes Adolfus de Saffenberch, Gerhardus Hostath, Godefridus et frater eius Herimannus de Chuh, Gerhardus de Mulenarca…"[448].
"m ([1100]) HENDRIK Heer van Kuyc, son of HERMANN [van Malsen] & his wife Ida --- (-1108).]"
Med Lands cites:
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VIII 35.1
; Per Med Lands:
"HENDRIK (-1108). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Heer van Kuyc. "…Henrici de Cuck, Arnulphi de Rode…" witnessed the charter dated 1096 under which "Ida Boloniensis comitissa" donated property in "Genapia" to Afflighem abbey[847].
"m ([1100]) ALVERADIS [von Hochstaden] heiress of the Waldgrafschaft Osning, daughter of [GERHARD [I] Graf von Hochstaden & his wife Aleydis von Wickrath] (-after 2 May 1131). The primary source which confirms her suggested parentage has not yet been identified. “Alveradis mulier nobilis” donated property to Marienweerd, with the consent of “filiis suis Godefrido et Herimanno”, by charter dated 1129[848]. Lothar King of Germany confirmed the donation to Kloster Siegburg made by "Alverada de Cuck cum suis liberis" by charter dated 2 May 1131 witnessed by "…Comes Gerhardus de Iuliaco, Comes Adolfus de Saffenberch, Gerhardus Hostath, Godefridus et frater eius Herimannus de Chuh, Gerhardus de Mulenarca…"[849]."
Med Lands cites:
Hendrik I (?) Heer van Kuyck died after 1108.1,3
; Per Med Lands:
"ALVERADIS (-after 2 May 1131). Heiress of the Waldgrafschaft Osning. The primary source which confirms her suggested parentage has not yet been identified. “Alveradis mulier nobilis” donated property to Marienweerd, with the consent of “filiis suis Godef[rido et Herimanno”, by charter dated 1129[447]. Lothar King of Germany confirmed the donation to Kloster Siegburg made by "Alverada de Cuck cum suis liberis" by charter dated 2 May 1131 witnessed by "…Comes Gerhardus de Iuliaco, Comes Adolfus de Saffenberch, Gerhardus Hostath, Godefridus et frater eius Herimannus de Chuh, Gerhardus de Mulenarca…"[448].
"m ([1100]) HENDRIK Heer van Kuyc, son of HERMANN [van Malsen] & his wife Ida --- (-1108).]"
Med Lands cites:
[447] Sloet, L. A. J. W. (ed.) (1872) Ooorkondenboek der graafschappens Gelre en Zutfen, Eerste gedeelte (The Hague), 249, p. 243.
[448] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band I, 310, p. 205.7
[448] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band I, 310, p. 205.7
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VIII 35.1
; Per Med Lands:
"HENDRIK (-1108). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Heer van Kuyc. "…Henrici de Cuck, Arnulphi de Rode…" witnessed the charter dated 1096 under which "Ida Boloniensis comitissa" donated property in "Genapia" to Afflighem abbey[847].
"m ([1100]) ALVERADIS [von Hochstaden] heiress of the Waldgrafschaft Osning, daughter of [GERHARD [I] Graf von Hochstaden & his wife Aleydis von Wickrath] (-after 2 May 1131). The primary source which confirms her suggested parentage has not yet been identified. “Alveradis mulier nobilis” donated property to Marienweerd, with the consent of “filiis suis Godefrido et Herimanno”, by charter dated 1129[848]. Lothar King of Germany confirmed the donation to Kloster Siegburg made by "Alverada de Cuck cum suis liberis" by charter dated 2 May 1131 witnessed by "…Comes Gerhardus de Iuliaco, Comes Adolfus de Saffenberch, Gerhardus Hostath, Godefridus et frater eius Herimannus de Chuh, Gerhardus de Mulenarca…"[849]."
Med Lands cites:
[847] Miraeus (Le Mire), A. (1723) Opera diplomatica et historica, 2nd edn. (Louvain), Tome I, LXVII, p. 77.
[848] Sloet (1872), 249, p. 243.
[849] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band I, 310, p. 205.3
He was living in 1108.1[848] Sloet (1872), 249, p. 243.
[849] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band I, 310, p. 205.3
Family | Alveradis von Hochstaden d. a 1108 |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hendrik I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139700&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ide (de Boulogne): http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139703&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HOLLAND.htm#HendrikCuykdied1108. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hermann von Malsen: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139702&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HOLLAND.htm#HermannMalsenKuycdied1080orafter
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alveradis (von Hochstaden): http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139701&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANCONIA%20(LOWER%20RHINE).htm#AlveradisMHendrikCuyk
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Herman van Malsen: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174647&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gottfried I van Kuyck: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00107744&tree=LEO
Ide (?) de Boulogne1
F, #61708
Father | Eustache II «Aux Grenons» (?) Comte de Boulogne et de Lens2,3 b. bt 1015 - 1020, d. bt 1070 - 1082 |
Mother | Ida de Lorraine2 b. c 1040, d. 13 Aug 1113 |
Last Edited | 30 Oct 2020 |
Ide (?) de Boulogne married Conon de Montaigu comte de Montaigu
;
His 2nd wife; Her 2nd husband.4,5 Ide (?) de Boulogne married Hermann van Malsen Heer van Kuyc en Malsen, son of Unruoch/Hunerich I (?) Graaf van Teisterband, in 1070.6,1,7
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VIII 35.1
; Per Med Lands:
"[IDA . Europäische Stammtafeln[783] shows Ida, wife [firstly] of Hermann [von Malsen] and [secondly of Conon de Montaigu], as a possible daughter of Comte Eustache II & his wife Ida. The only partial corroboration for this so far found is Orderic Vitalis who says that "Cono comes Alemannus" married "Duke Godfrey's sister"[784].
"m firstly ([1070]) HERMANN [von Malsen], son of --- (-1080 or after).
"m secondly as his second wife, CONON Comte de Montaigu, son of GOZELO Comte de Montaigu & his wife Ermentrude de Grandpré (-30 Apr 1106).] "
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"HERMANN [van Malsen] (-1080 or after). According to Europäische Stammtafeln[843], Hermann was the son of Unruoch [I] but the primary source which confirms this has not yet been identified. 1057/80.
"m ([1070]) [as her first husband,] IDA, daughter of ---. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified. According to Europäische Stammtafeln[844], she was possibly Ida de Boulogne, daughter of Eustache II Comte de Boulogne & his wife Ida of Lotharingia, married secondly to Conon Comte de Montaigu. The only partial corroboration for this hypothesis which has so far found is in Orderic Vitalis, who says that "Cono comes Alemannus" married "Duke Godfrey's sister"[845]. On the other hand, the Chronicle of Saint-Hubert, interpolated in the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines, names "Ida filia senioris Lamberti" only as wife of "comes Cono de Monteacute"[846]."
Med Lands cites:
;
His 2nd wife; Her 2nd husband.4,5 Ide (?) de Boulogne married Hermann van Malsen Heer van Kuyc en Malsen, son of Unruoch/Hunerich I (?) Graaf van Teisterband, in 1070.6,1,7
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VIII 35.1
; Per Med Lands:
"[IDA . Europäische Stammtafeln[783] shows Ida, wife [firstly] of Hermann [von Malsen] and [secondly of Conon de Montaigu], as a possible daughter of Comte Eustache II & his wife Ida. The only partial corroboration for this so far found is Orderic Vitalis who says that "Cono comes Alemannus" married "Duke Godfrey's sister"[784].
"m firstly ([1070]) HERMANN [von Malsen], son of --- (-1080 or after).
"m secondly as his second wife, CONON Comte de Montaigu, son of GOZELO Comte de Montaigu & his wife Ermentrude de Grandpré (-30 Apr 1106).] "
Med Lands cites:
[783] ES VIII 35.
[784] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. V, Book IX, p. 167, the editor in footnote 5 identifying him as Conan count of Montacute. She is not listed among the children of Eustache III Comte de Boulogne & his wife Ida of Lotharingia given in Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. V, Book IX, p. 175.5
[784] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. V, Book IX, p. 167, the editor in footnote 5 identifying him as Conan count of Montacute. She is not listed among the children of Eustache III Comte de Boulogne & his wife Ida of Lotharingia given in Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. V, Book IX, p. 175.5
; Per Med Lands:
"HERMANN [van Malsen] (-1080 or after). According to Europäische Stammtafeln[843], Hermann was the son of Unruoch [I] but the primary source which confirms this has not yet been identified. 1057/80.
"m ([1070]) [as her first husband,] IDA, daughter of ---. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified. According to Europäische Stammtafeln[844], she was possibly Ida de Boulogne, daughter of Eustache II Comte de Boulogne & his wife Ida of Lotharingia, married secondly to Conon Comte de Montaigu. The only partial corroboration for this hypothesis which has so far found is in Orderic Vitalis, who says that "Cono comes Alemannus" married "Duke Godfrey's sister"[845]. On the other hand, the Chronicle of Saint-Hubert, interpolated in the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines, names "Ida filia senioris Lamberti" only as wife of "comes Cono de Monteacute"[846]."
Med Lands cites:
[843] ES VIII 35.
[844] ES VIII 35.
[845] Chibnall, M. (ed. and trans.) (1969) The Ecclesiastical History of Orderic Vitalis (Oxford Clarendon Press), Vol. V, Book IX, p. 167, the editor in footnote 5 identifying him as Conan Comte de Montaigu. She is not listed among the children of Eustache III Comte de Boulogne & his wife Ida of Lotharingia given in Orderic Vitalis, Vol. V, Book IX, p. 175.
[846] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1106, MGH SS XXIII, p. 816.7
[844] ES VIII 35.
[845] Chibnall, M. (ed. and trans.) (1969) The Ecclesiastical History of Orderic Vitalis (Oxford Clarendon Press), Vol. V, Book IX, p. 167, the editor in footnote 5 identifying him as Conan Comte de Montaigu. She is not listed among the children of Eustache III Comte de Boulogne & his wife Ida of Lotharingia given in Orderic Vitalis, Vol. V, Book IX, p. 175.
[846] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1106, MGH SS XXIII, p. 816.7
Family 1 | Conon de Montaigu comte de Montaigu |
Child |
Family 2 | Hermann van Malsen Heer van Kuyc en Malsen d. c 1080 |
Child |
|
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ide (de Boulogne): http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139703&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#EustacheIIB. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison comtale de Boulogne, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boulogne.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(LOWER)%20NOBILITY.htm#CononMontaigudied1106
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#IdaBoulogneM1HermanMalsenM2CononMontaigu
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hermann von Malsen: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139702&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HOLLAND.htm#HermannMalsenKuycdied1080orafter
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hendrik I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139700&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HOLLAND.htm#HendrikCuykdied1108
Hermann van Malsen Heer van Kuyc en Malsen1,2
M, #61709, d. circa 1080
Father | Unruoch/Hunerich I (?) Graaf van Teisterband2 b. c 945, d. a 1026 |
Reference | EDV30 |
Last Edited | 11 Nov 2020 |
Hermann van Malsen Heer van Kuyc en Malsen married Ide (?) de Boulogne, daughter of Eustache II «Aux Grenons» (?) Comte de Boulogne et de Lens and Ida de Lorraine, in 1070.1,3,2
Hermann van Malsen Heer van Kuyc en Malsen died circa 1080.2
; Per Med Lands:
"[IDA . Europäische Stammtafeln[783] shows Ida, wife [firstly] of Hermann [von Malsen] and [secondly of Conon de Montaigu], as a possible daughter of Comte Eustache II & his wife Ida. The only partial corroboration for this so far found is Orderic Vitalis who says that "Cono comes Alemannus" married "Duke Godfrey's sister"[784].
"m firstly ([1070]) HERMANN [von Malsen], son of --- (-1080 or after).
"m secondly as his second wife, CONON Comte de Montaigu, son of GOZELO Comte de Montaigu & his wife Ermentrude de Grandpré (-30 Apr 1106).] "
Med Lands cites:
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VIII 35.5
; Per Med Lands:
"HERMANN [van Malsen] (-1080 or after). According to Europäische Stammtafeln[843], Hermann was the son of Unruoch [I] but the primary source which confirms this has not yet been identified. 1057/80.
"m ([1070]) [as her first husband,] IDA, daughter of ---. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified. According to Europäische Stammtafeln[844], she was possibly Ida de Boulogne, daughter of Eustache II Comte de Boulogne & his wife Ida of Lotharingia, married secondly to Conon Comte de Montaigu. The only partial corroboration for this hypothesis which has so far found is in Orderic Vitalis, who says that "Cono comes Alemannus" married "Duke Godfrey's sister"[845]. On the other hand, the Chronicle of Saint-Hubert, interpolated in the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines, names "Ida filia senioris Lamberti" only as wife of "comes Cono de Monteacute"[846]."
Med Lands cites:
Hermann van Malsen Heer van Kuyc en Malsen died circa 1080.2
; Per Med Lands:
"[IDA . Europäische Stammtafeln[783] shows Ida, wife [firstly] of Hermann [von Malsen] and [secondly of Conon de Montaigu], as a possible daughter of Comte Eustache II & his wife Ida. The only partial corroboration for this so far found is Orderic Vitalis who says that "Cono comes Alemannus" married "Duke Godfrey's sister"[784].
"m firstly ([1070]) HERMANN [von Malsen], son of --- (-1080 or after).
"m secondly as his second wife, CONON Comte de Montaigu, son of GOZELO Comte de Montaigu & his wife Ermentrude de Grandpré (-30 Apr 1106).] "
Med Lands cites:
[783] ES VIII 35.
[784] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. V, Book IX, p. 167, the editor in footnote 5 identifying him as Conan count of Montacute. She is not listed among the children of Eustache III Comte de Boulogne & his wife Ida of Lotharingia given in Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. V, Book IX, p. 175.4
EDV-30. [784] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. V, Book IX, p. 167, the editor in footnote 5 identifying him as Conan count of Montacute. She is not listed among the children of Eustache III Comte de Boulogne & his wife Ida of Lotharingia given in Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. V, Book IX, p. 175.4
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VIII 35.5
; Per Med Lands:
"HERMANN [van Malsen] (-1080 or after). According to Europäische Stammtafeln[843], Hermann was the son of Unruoch [I] but the primary source which confirms this has not yet been identified. 1057/80.
"m ([1070]) [as her first husband,] IDA, daughter of ---. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified. According to Europäische Stammtafeln[844], she was possibly Ida de Boulogne, daughter of Eustache II Comte de Boulogne & his wife Ida of Lotharingia, married secondly to Conon Comte de Montaigu. The only partial corroboration for this hypothesis which has so far found is in Orderic Vitalis, who says that "Cono comes Alemannus" married "Duke Godfrey's sister"[845]. On the other hand, the Chronicle of Saint-Hubert, interpolated in the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines, names "Ida filia senioris Lamberti" only as wife of "comes Cono de Monteacute"[846]."
Med Lands cites:
[843] ES VIII 35.
[844] ES VIII 35.
[845] Chibnall, M. (ed. and trans.) (1969) The Ecclesiastical History of Orderic Vitalis (Oxford Clarendon Press), Vol. V, Book IX, p. 167, the editor in footnote 5 identifying him as Conan Comte de Montaigu. She is not listed among the children of Eustache III Comte de Boulogne & his wife Ida of Lotharingia given in Orderic Vitalis, Vol. V, Book IX, p. 175.
[846] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1106, MGH SS XXIII, p. 816.2
He was living in 1057.1[844] ES VIII 35.
[845] Chibnall, M. (ed. and trans.) (1969) The Ecclesiastical History of Orderic Vitalis (Oxford Clarendon Press), Vol. V, Book IX, p. 167, the editor in footnote 5 identifying him as Conan Comte de Montaigu. She is not listed among the children of Eustache III Comte de Boulogne & his wife Ida of Lotharingia given in Orderic Vitalis, Vol. V, Book IX, p. 175.
[846] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1106, MGH SS XXIII, p. 816.2
Family | Ide (?) de Boulogne |
Child |
|
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hermann von Malsen: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139702&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HOLLAND.htm#HermannMalsenKuycdied1080orafter. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ide (de Boulogne): http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139703&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#IdaBoulogneM1HermanMalsenM2CononMontaigu
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hermann von Malsen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139702&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hendrik I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139700&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HOLLAND.htm#HendrikCuykdied1108
Hugo II (?) Burggraaf van Gent1
M, #61710, d. between September 1232 and November 1232
Father | Siger III (?) Burggraaf van Gent3,1 |
Mother | Beatrix de Houdain2,1 |
Last Edited | 18 Jan 2014 |
Hugo II (?) Burggraaf van Gent married Eudette/Oda de Champlitte Dame de Champlitte, daughter of Eudes II "le Champenois" (?) Sire de Champlitte and Emmeline (?) de Broyes.4,1
Hugo II (?) Burggraaf van Gent died between September 1232 and November 1232.1
Reference: Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 83.1
Hugo II (?) Burggraaf van Gent died between September 1232 and November 1232.1
Reference: Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 83.1
Family | Eudette/Oda de Champlitte Dame de Champlitte d. a 1224 |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugo II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164647&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Béatrix de Houdain: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164661&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Siger III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164660&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eudette (Oda) de Champlitte: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164648&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugo III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164652&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Walter I Vilain: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164649&tree=LEO