Ida de Lorraine1
F, #6601, b. circa 1040, d. 13 August 1113
Father | Godfrey IV/II "The Bearded" de Bouillon Duke of Upper & Lower Lorraine, Count of Verdun2,1,3 b. 1006, d. 1069 |
Mother | Uda (?)2,1,3 |
Reference | GAV26 |
Last Edited | 28 Jul 2020 |
Ida de Lorraine was born circa 1040; Genealogics says b. ca 1040; Med Lands says b. 1038/43.1,3 She married Eustache II «Aux Grenons» (?) Comte de Boulogne et de Lens, son of Eustache I «A l’oeil» (?) Comte de Boulogne and Mathilde/Matilda/Maud (?) de Louvain, in 1057
;
His 2nd wife.4,5,2,1,3
Ida de Lorraine died on 13 August 1113; Richardson and Genealogics say d. 13 Aug 1115; Peter Stewart sayd d. 13 April, citing "Acta sanctorum."2,5,6,1,3
; Per Med Lands:
"EUSTACHE [II] "Gernobadatus" de Boulogne, son of EUSTACHE [I] Comte de Boulogne & his wife Mathilde de Louvain ([1015/20]-[soon after 1070/1087]). The Genealogica comitum Buloniensium records that "Eustachium et Lantbertum" were sons of "comes Eustachius de Bolonia" and his wife Mathilde[457]. His birth date range is estimated from the date of his first marriage, and bearing in mind the estimated birth date range of his mother. He succeeded his father in [1049] as Comte de Boulogne. Simeon of Durham records that "Eustace the elder earl of Boulogne who had married king Eadward's sister Goda" landed at Dover in Sep 1051[458]. When returning from visiting Edward "the Confessor" King of England in 1051, he was involved in an affray at Canterbury during which one of his men was killed. The refusal of Godwin Earl of Wessex to punish the offenders led to the Earl's temporary banishment from England[459]. Comte de Lens 1054. "Eustatii comitis" witnessed a charter of "Balduinus Flandrensium comes" dated 6 Jan 1056[460]. Orderic Vitalis records that “Eustachium comitem” was seriously wounded during the battle of Hastings but escaped “quasi moribundus”[461]. He was awarded a large fief "the honour of Boulogne"[462], but soon quarrelled with William I King of England. He launched an attack on England in 1067, but withdrew after landing. His English lands were confiscated, but later restored. Boulogne's strategic importance grew as it became the main port for importing English wool for the Flemish cloth trade.
"m firstly ([1036]) as her second husband, GODGIFU [Goda] of England, widow of DREUX [Drogo] Comte de Mantes et du Vexin, daughter of ÆTHELRED II King of England & his second wife Emma de Normandie (-before 1049). Her parentage is recorded by Orderic Vitalis, who says that she went into exile in Normandy with her brother[463], which can be dated from other sources to 1013. Her first marriage was arranged by Robert II Duke of Normandy[464], indicating that she probably did not return to England. Her second marriage is referred to by Florence of Worcester[465]. Simeon of Durham records that "Eustace the elder earl of Boulogne who had married king Eadward's sister Goda" landed at Dover in Sep 1051[466].
"m secondly IDA of Lotharingia, daughter of GODEFROI Duke of Upper Lorraine Comte de Verdun & his first wife Doda [de Rethel] ([1038/43][467]-13 Aug 1113). Her marriage is recorded by Orderic Vitalis, who specifies that she was the sister of "Godfrey Duke of Lotharingia" and names her three sons[468]. The Vita B. Idæ Boloniensis Comitissæ records that she was the daughter of "pater…Godefridus, mater…Doda"[469]. She made a donation to Saint-Bertin for the soul of "Eustachii domini mei comitis" with her sons "Godefridi et Balduini"[470]. The Lamberti Audomariensis Chronica records the death "Id Apr 1113" of "Ida comitissa Boloniæ"[471]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire (Boulogne): “Eustache II «Aux Grenons» (Gernobadatus) de Boulogne ° 1015/20 + peu après 1070/87 comte de Boulogne (1049), comte de Lens (1054), X à Hastings (14/10/1066), reçoit des fiefs en Angleterre mais se rebelle contre le Roi Guillaume 1er , échoue dans sa tentative de débarquement en Angleterre (1067) (ses fiefs sont confisqués mais restitués ultérieurement) (cité témoin d’une charte du comte Baudouin de Flandres 06/01/1056)
ép. 1) 1036 Godgifu (Goda) d’Angleterre + avant 1049 (fille d’Ethelred II, Roi d’Angleterre et d’Emma de Normandie ; veuve de Dreu, comte de Mantes et du Vexin ; exilée en Normandie ~1013 ; ép. 2) ?)
ép. 2) Ida de Lotharingie (Lorraine) héritière de Bouillon (Ardennes, Belgique) ° 1038/43 + 13/08/1113 (fille de Godefroi, duc de Haute-Lorraine, comte de Verdun, et de Doda de Réthel) (citée donation à Saint-Bertin 06/01/1056)”.8
; Per Genealogy.EU (Boulogne): “A1. Cte Eustache II de Boulogne et de Lens, +1070/82; 1m: ca 1036 Goda of England; 2m: Ida of Lorraine (+1113)”.9
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; This is the same person as ”Ida of Lorraine” at Wikipedia and as ”Ide de Boulogne” at Wikipédia (FR).10,11
; Per Genealogics:
“Ida was born about 1040, the daughter of Geoffroy 'with the Beard', count of Verdun, duke of Upper-Lorraine, and his wife Uda. In 1057 she married Eustace II, comte de Boulogne, son of Eustace I, comte de Boulogne, and Mathilde de Louvain. Of their three sons only Eustace III would have progeny.
“Ida chose not to use a wet-nurse in raising her sons, opting to breast-feed them, according to one source, to ensure that they were not contaminated by the wet-nurse's morals. When her sons took part in the First Crusade, Ida contributed heavily to their expenses.
“Ida was always religiously and charitably active, but the death of her husband provided her with wealth and the freedom to use it for her projects. She founded the monasteries of Saint-Wulmer in Boulogne-sur-Mer, Our Lady of the Chapel in Calais, Saint-Bertin, Cappelle and Le Wast. She maintained a correspondence with Anselm of Canterbury. Some of Anselm's letters to Ida have survived.
“Though Ida became increasingly involved in church life, current scholars consider that she did not become a Benedictine nun, but that she was a secular oblate of that order.
“She died on 13 April 1113. Traditionally, her burial place has been ascribed to the Abbey of Saint Vaast. Her remains were moved in 1669 to Paris and again in 1808 to Bayeux. Her life story was written by a contemporary monk of the Saint Vaast Abbey. She is venerated in Bayeux.”. GAV-26. Ida de Lorraine was also known as Saint Ida of Lorraine.12 Ida de Lorraine was also known as Ida of Upper and Lower Lorraine.13 Ida de Lorraine was also known as Ida de Bouillon.5,2,14
; Per Med Lands:
"IDA ([1038/43][310]-13 Aug 1113). The Annalista Saxo names her "soror Gocelonis seu Godefridi ducis"[311]. Her marriage is given in Orderic Vitalis, who specifies that she was the sister of "Godfrey Duke of Lotharingia" and names her three sons[312]. The Vita B. Idæ Boloniensis Comitissæ records that she was the daughter of "pater…Godefridus, mater…Doda"[313]. She made a donation to Saint-Bertin for the soul of "Eustachii domini mei comitis" with her sons "Godefridi et Balduini"[314]. The Lamberti Audomariensis Chronica records the death "Id Apr 1113" of "Ida comitissa Boloniæ"[315].
"m as his second wife, EUSTACHE [II] Comte de Boulogne, son of EUSTACHE [I] Comte de Boulogne & his wife Mathilde de Louvain (-[1072/82])."
Med Lands cites:
;
His 2nd wife.4,5,2,1,3
Ida de Lorraine died on 13 August 1113; Richardson and Genealogics say d. 13 Aug 1115; Peter Stewart sayd d. 13 April, citing "Acta sanctorum."2,5,6,1,3
; Per Med Lands:
"EUSTACHE [II] "Gernobadatus" de Boulogne, son of EUSTACHE [I] Comte de Boulogne & his wife Mathilde de Louvain ([1015/20]-[soon after 1070/1087]). The Genealogica comitum Buloniensium records that "Eustachium et Lantbertum" were sons of "comes Eustachius de Bolonia" and his wife Mathilde[457]. His birth date range is estimated from the date of his first marriage, and bearing in mind the estimated birth date range of his mother. He succeeded his father in [1049] as Comte de Boulogne. Simeon of Durham records that "Eustace the elder earl of Boulogne who had married king Eadward's sister Goda" landed at Dover in Sep 1051[458]. When returning from visiting Edward "the Confessor" King of England in 1051, he was involved in an affray at Canterbury during which one of his men was killed. The refusal of Godwin Earl of Wessex to punish the offenders led to the Earl's temporary banishment from England[459]. Comte de Lens 1054. "Eustatii comitis" witnessed a charter of "Balduinus Flandrensium comes" dated 6 Jan 1056[460]. Orderic Vitalis records that “Eustachium comitem” was seriously wounded during the battle of Hastings but escaped “quasi moribundus”[461]. He was awarded a large fief "the honour of Boulogne"[462], but soon quarrelled with William I King of England. He launched an attack on England in 1067, but withdrew after landing. His English lands were confiscated, but later restored. Boulogne's strategic importance grew as it became the main port for importing English wool for the Flemish cloth trade.
"m firstly ([1036]) as her second husband, GODGIFU [Goda] of England, widow of DREUX [Drogo] Comte de Mantes et du Vexin, daughter of ÆTHELRED II King of England & his second wife Emma de Normandie (-before 1049). Her parentage is recorded by Orderic Vitalis, who says that she went into exile in Normandy with her brother[463], which can be dated from other sources to 1013. Her first marriage was arranged by Robert II Duke of Normandy[464], indicating that she probably did not return to England. Her second marriage is referred to by Florence of Worcester[465]. Simeon of Durham records that "Eustace the elder earl of Boulogne who had married king Eadward's sister Goda" landed at Dover in Sep 1051[466].
"m secondly IDA of Lotharingia, daughter of GODEFROI Duke of Upper Lorraine Comte de Verdun & his first wife Doda [de Rethel] ([1038/43][467]-13 Aug 1113). Her marriage is recorded by Orderic Vitalis, who specifies that she was the sister of "Godfrey Duke of Lotharingia" and names her three sons[468]. The Vita B. Idæ Boloniensis Comitissæ records that she was the daughter of "pater…Godefridus, mater…Doda"[469]. She made a donation to Saint-Bertin for the soul of "Eustachii domini mei comitis" with her sons "Godefridi et Balduini"[470]. The Lamberti Audomariensis Chronica records the death "Id Apr 1113" of "Ida comitissa Boloniæ"[471]."
Med Lands cites:
[457] Genealogica comitum Buloniensium MGH SS IX, p. 301.
[458] Simeon of Durham, p. 534.
[459] Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, D, 1052 [1051], and E, 1048 [1051].
[460] Saint-Bertin, I.14, 1056, p. 184.
[461] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, XIV, p. 151.
[462] Murray (2000), p. 29.
[463] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. IV, Book VII, p. 77.
[464] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. IV, Book VII, p. 77.
[465] Florence of Worcester, 1051, p. 150.
[466] Simeon of Durham, p. 534.
[467] Birth date range estimated from the likely birth of her second son in [1060].
[468] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. V, Book IX, p. 175.
[469] Ex Vita B. Idæ Boloniensis Comitissæ, RHGF, Tome XIV, p. 113.
[470] Saint-Bertin II.16, p. 227.
[471] Lamberti Audomariensis Chronica 1113, Catalogus Regum Langobardorum et Imperatorum, MGH SS V, p. 65.7
[458] Simeon of Durham, p. 534.
[459] Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, D, 1052 [1051], and E, 1048 [1051].
[460] Saint-Bertin, I.14, 1056, p. 184.
[461] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, XIV, p. 151.
[462] Murray (2000), p. 29.
[463] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. IV, Book VII, p. 77.
[464] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. IV, Book VII, p. 77.
[465] Florence of Worcester, 1051, p. 150.
[466] Simeon of Durham, p. 534.
[467] Birth date range estimated from the likely birth of her second son in [1060].
[468] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. V, Book IX, p. 175.
[469] Ex Vita B. Idæ Boloniensis Comitissæ, RHGF, Tome XIV, p. 113.
[470] Saint-Bertin II.16, p. 227.
[471] Lamberti Audomariensis Chronica 1113, Catalogus Regum Langobardorum et Imperatorum, MGH SS V, p. 65.7
; Per Racines et Histoire (Boulogne): “Eustache II «Aux Grenons» (Gernobadatus) de Boulogne ° 1015/20 + peu après 1070/87 comte de Boulogne (1049), comte de Lens (1054), X à Hastings (14/10/1066), reçoit des fiefs en Angleterre mais se rebelle contre le Roi Guillaume 1er , échoue dans sa tentative de débarquement en Angleterre (1067) (ses fiefs sont confisqués mais restitués ultérieurement) (cité témoin d’une charte du comte Baudouin de Flandres 06/01/1056)
ép. 1) 1036 Godgifu (Goda) d’Angleterre + avant 1049 (fille d’Ethelred II, Roi d’Angleterre et d’Emma de Normandie ; veuve de Dreu, comte de Mantes et du Vexin ; exilée en Normandie ~1013 ; ép. 2) ?)
ép. 2) Ida de Lotharingie (Lorraine) héritière de Bouillon (Ardennes, Belgique) ° 1038/43 + 13/08/1113 (fille de Godefroi, duc de Haute-Lorraine, comte de Verdun, et de Doda de Réthel) (citée donation à Saint-Bertin 06/01/1056)”.8
; Per Genealogy.EU (Boulogne): “A1. Cte Eustache II de Boulogne et de Lens, +1070/82; 1m: ca 1036 Goda of England; 2m: Ida of Lorraine (+1113)”.9
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 621.
2. Biogr. details drawn from Wikipedia.1
2. Biogr. details drawn from Wikipedia.1
; This is the same person as ”Ida of Lorraine” at Wikipedia and as ”Ide de Boulogne” at Wikipédia (FR).10,11
; Per Genealogics:
“Ida was born about 1040, the daughter of Geoffroy 'with the Beard', count of Verdun, duke of Upper-Lorraine, and his wife Uda. In 1057 she married Eustace II, comte de Boulogne, son of Eustace I, comte de Boulogne, and Mathilde de Louvain. Of their three sons only Eustace III would have progeny.
“Ida chose not to use a wet-nurse in raising her sons, opting to breast-feed them, according to one source, to ensure that they were not contaminated by the wet-nurse's morals. When her sons took part in the First Crusade, Ida contributed heavily to their expenses.
“Ida was always religiously and charitably active, but the death of her husband provided her with wealth and the freedom to use it for her projects. She founded the monasteries of Saint-Wulmer in Boulogne-sur-Mer, Our Lady of the Chapel in Calais, Saint-Bertin, Cappelle and Le Wast. She maintained a correspondence with Anselm of Canterbury. Some of Anselm's letters to Ida have survived.
“Though Ida became increasingly involved in church life, current scholars consider that she did not become a Benedictine nun, but that she was a secular oblate of that order.
“She died on 13 April 1113. Traditionally, her burial place has been ascribed to the Abbey of Saint Vaast. Her remains were moved in 1669 to Paris and again in 1808 to Bayeux. Her life story was written by a contemporary monk of the Saint Vaast Abbey. She is venerated in Bayeux.”. GAV-26. Ida de Lorraine was also known as Saint Ida of Lorraine.12 Ida de Lorraine was also known as Ida of Upper and Lower Lorraine.13 Ida de Lorraine was also known as Ida de Bouillon.5,2,14
; Per Med Lands:
"IDA ([1038/43][310]-13 Aug 1113). The Annalista Saxo names her "soror Gocelonis seu Godefridi ducis"[311]. Her marriage is given in Orderic Vitalis, who specifies that she was the sister of "Godfrey Duke of Lotharingia" and names her three sons[312]. The Vita B. Idæ Boloniensis Comitissæ records that she was the daughter of "pater…Godefridus, mater…Doda"[313]. She made a donation to Saint-Bertin for the soul of "Eustachii domini mei comitis" with her sons "Godefridi et Balduini"[314]. The Lamberti Audomariensis Chronica records the death "Id Apr 1113" of "Ida comitissa Boloniæ"[315].
"m as his second wife, EUSTACHE [II] Comte de Boulogne, son of EUSTACHE [I] Comte de Boulogne & his wife Mathilde de Louvain (-[1072/82])."
Med Lands cites:
[310] Birth date range estimated from the likely birth of her second son in [1060].
[311] Annalista Saxo 1076.
[312] Orderic Vitalis, Vol. V, Book IX, p. 175.
[313] Ex Vita B. Idæ Boloniensis Comitissæ, RHGF XIV, p. 113.
[314] Guérard, M. (ed.) (1840) Cartulaire de l'abbaye de Saint-Bertin, Collection des cartularies de France Tome III (Paris) ("Saint-Bertin") II.16, p. 227.
[315] Lamberti Audomariensis Chronica 1113, Catalogus Regum Langobardorum et Imperatorum, MGH SS V, p. 65.3
[311] Annalista Saxo 1076.
[312] Orderic Vitalis, Vol. V, Book IX, p. 175.
[313] Ex Vita B. Idæ Boloniensis Comitissæ, RHGF XIV, p. 113.
[314] Guérard, M. (ed.) (1840) Cartulaire de l'abbaye de Saint-Bertin, Collection des cartularies de France Tome III (Paris) ("Saint-Bertin") II.16, p. 227.
[315] Lamberti Audomariensis Chronica 1113, Catalogus Regum Langobardorum et Imperatorum, MGH SS V, p. 65.3
Family | Eustache II «Aux Grenons» (?) Comte de Boulogne et de Lens b. bt 1015 - 1020, d. bt 1070 - 1082 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ida de Lorraine: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00305425&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 1 page (The Luxemburg Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg1.html
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIA.htm#Idadied1113. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 158A-22, p. 128. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Boulogne page (Counts of Boulogne sur Mer): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/boulogne.html
- [S1897] Peter Stewart, "Stewart email 23 June 2005: "Re: Extended Pedigree of Counts of Boulogne-sur-Mer"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 June 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Stewart email 23 June 2005."
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#EustacheIIB
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boulogne.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Counts of Boulogne sur Mer (Boulogne): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/boulogne.html
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ida_of_Lorraine. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Ide de Boulogne: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ide_de_Boulogne. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
- [S1896] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 22 June 2005: "Extended Pedigree of Counts of Boulogne-sur-Mer"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/44eb7V2WEXc/m/5ixO37yx3noJ) to e-mail address, 22 June 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 22 June 2005."
- [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I6480
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ida de Lorraine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00305425&tree=LEO
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- [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, The Rupenides, Hethumides and Lusignans: The Structure of the Armeno-Cilician Dynasties (11, Rude de Lille, Paris 7e, France: Librairie C. Klincksieck for the Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation Armenian Library (Lisbon), 1963), Chart V (J): The House of the Kings of Jerusalem. Hereinafter cited as Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc.
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- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eustace III: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00012363&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#EustacheIIIdied1125
Godfrey IV/II "The Bearded" de Bouillon Duke of Upper & Lower Lorraine, Count of Verdun1,2
M, #6602, b. 1006, d. 1069
Father | Gozelo I "The Great" (?) Count of Verdun, Duke of Upper-Lorraine, Markgraf of Antwerpen1,2,3,4 b. c 967, d. 19 Apr 1044 |
Mother | Junca (?)5 |
Reference | GAV25 EDV25 |
Last Edited | 29 Aug 2020 |
Godfrey IV/II "The Bearded" de Bouillon Duke of Upper & Lower Lorraine, Count of Verdun was born in 1006.6 He married Uda (?)
; his 1st wife.2 Godfrey IV/II "The Bearded" de Bouillon Duke of Upper & Lower Lorraine, Count of Verdun married Beatrix (?) of Lorraine, daughter of Friedrich II (?) Count de Bar-le-Duc, Duke of Upper Lorraine and Mathilde (?) von Schwaben, in 1054
;
His 2nd wife; her 2nd husband.1,7,2,8
Godfrey IV/II "The Bearded" de Bouillon Duke of Upper & Lower Lorraine, Count of Verdun died in 1069.9
GAV-25 EDV-25. Godfrey IV/II "The Bearded" de Bouillon Duke of Upper & Lower Lorraine, Count of Verdun was also known as Godfrey II "der Bärtige" Duke of Upper and Lower Lorraine.2 He was Duke of Upper Lorraine between 1044 and 1047.10 He was Duke of Lower Lorraine between 1065 and 1068.10
; his 1st wife.2 Godfrey IV/II "The Bearded" de Bouillon Duke of Upper & Lower Lorraine, Count of Verdun married Beatrix (?) of Lorraine, daughter of Friedrich II (?) Count de Bar-le-Duc, Duke of Upper Lorraine and Mathilde (?) von Schwaben, in 1054
;
His 2nd wife; her 2nd husband.1,7,2,8
Godfrey IV/II "The Bearded" de Bouillon Duke of Upper & Lower Lorraine, Count of Verdun died in 1069.9
GAV-25 EDV-25. Godfrey IV/II "The Bearded" de Bouillon Duke of Upper & Lower Lorraine, Count of Verdun was also known as Godfrey II "der Bärtige" Duke of Upper and Lower Lorraine.2 He was Duke of Upper Lorraine between 1044 and 1047.10 He was Duke of Lower Lorraine between 1065 and 1068.10
Family 1 | Uda (?) |
Children |
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Family 2 | Beatrix (?) of Lorraine b. c 1020, d. 18 Apr 1076 |
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Geoffroy 'with the Beard': http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00305442&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 1 page (The Luxemburg Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg1.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gozelo I 'the Great': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00141433&tree=LEO
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- [S1709] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=jweber, Jim Weber (unknown location), downloaded updated 16 July 2005 accessed 7 Aug 2005, http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=jweber&id=I03997&style=TEXT
- [S640] Inc. Brøderbund Software, World Family Tree Vol. L1, Ed. 1, Family #0021 (n.p.: Release date: October 30, 1998, unknown publish date).
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrix of Lorraine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00331154&tree=LEO
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatrice_of_Lorraine. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I6479
- [S1559] The Periphery of Francia: Outremer - Kings of Jerusalem and Cyprus,
Counts of Edessa, Princes of Antioch, Counts of Tripoli, Kings of Thessalonica, Dukes of Athens, Princes of Achaea, and the Grand Masters of the Military Monastic Orders, online The Periphery of Francia: Outremer. Hereinafter cited as http://www.friesian.com/outremer.htm#edessa - [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ida de Lorraine: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00305425&tree=LEO
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Eustache I «A l’oeil» (?) Comte de Boulogne1,2,3,4,5,6
M, #6603, b. circa 1000, d. circa 1049
Father | Baudouin II (?) comte de Boulogne et de Thérouanne7,8,9,6,10,11,12 b. 950, d. 1033 |
Mother | Aleida (?) van Westfriesland2,13,8,9,11,12,14 |
Reference | GAV27 |
Last Edited | 3 Aug 2020 |
Eustache I «A l’oeil» (?) Comte de Boulogne was born circa 1000.11 He married Mathilde/Matilda/Maud (?) de Louvain, daughter of Lambert I "The Bearded" (?) Count of Louvain and Gerberga (?) de Lorraine.1,15,2,3,16,14,17,11,12,18
Eustache I «A l’oeil» (?) Comte de Boulogne died circa 1049.19,1,2,9,5,11
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Richardson email:
Subject: Extended Pedigree of Counts of Boulogne-sur-Mer
From: "Douglas Richardson royalancestry@msn.com"
Date: 22 Jun 2005 17:13:25 -0700
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
"For interest's sake, I've posted below an extended pedigree of the Counts of Boulogne-sur-Mer. The pedigree commences with Eustache I, Count of Boulogne, who died circa 1049. Most lines are traced out to the fifth or sixth generations. Several Magna Carta barons are connected to the Boulogne family, namely William d'Aubeney, Henry de Bohun, William de Huntingfield, and Saher de Quincy. For a history of the Magna Carta barons and their descendants, please see my new book, Magna Carta Ancestry.
"If anyone has any corrections or additions to the pedigree below, I'd appreciate it they would post them on the newsgroup for further discussion.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
Website: www.royalancestry.net
EXTENDED PEDIGREE OF COUNTS OF BOULOGNE-SUR-MER
Eustache I, Count of Boulogne, +ca 1049, son and heir of Baldwin, Count of Boulogne, by Ada de Gant; m. Maud (or Mahaut) of Louvain
.A1. Eustache II, Count of Boulogne, +about 1093; m. (1) before 1049 Goda of England, widow of Dreux, Count of Vexin; m. (2) 1057 [Saint] Ida of Lorraine (+13 Aug. 1113) << April
..B1. (by 2) Eustache III, Count of Boulogne and Lens, went on the First Crusade, +after 1125; m. 1101/02 Mary of Scotland (+1116)
...C1. Maud of Boulogne, Countess of Boulogne, Queen of England, +30 May 1151; m. 1125 Stephen of Blois, King of England (+25 Oct. 1154)
....D1. Eustache of England, Count of Boulogne, +16 Aug. 1153, bur. Faversham, m. Feb. 1140 Constance of France (+16 Aug. 1176)
....D2. William of England, Count of Boulogne and Mortain, 4th Earl of Surrey, + Toulouse expedition Oct. 1159, m. before 1153 Isabel de Warenne (+possibly 12 July 1199)
....D3. Baldwin of England, +young, bur. Holy Trinity, London
....D4. Mary of England, Abbess of Romsey, Countess of Boulogne, *about 1136, +at St. Austreberthe Abbey at Montreuil-sur-Mer 1182, m. 1160 (as his 1st wife) Mathieu of Flanders, Count of Boulogne (+25 July 1173)
.....E1. Ida of Boulogne, Countess of Boulogne, +1216, m. (1) Mathieu _____; m. (2) 1180 Gerhard III, Count of Guelders (+1182); m. (3) 1183 Berthold IV, Duke of Zähringen (+8 Dec. 1186); m. (4) 1190 Renaud, Count of Dammartin
.....E2. Mahaud (or Machtild) of Boulogne, +1210/1, m. 1179 or 1180 Henri I, Duke of Brabant and Lorraine (+5 Sept. 1235)
....D5. Maud of England, +young, bur. Holy Trinity, London
...C2. Godfrey of Boulogne [illegitimate] (styled "nephew" [nepos] of King Baldwin I of Jerusalem), +killed at Battle of Sinnabrah 1113
...C3. Ralph of Boulogne [illegitimate], +after 1120/5
...C4. Eustache of Boulogne [illegitimate], +after 1120/5
..B2. (by 2) Godfrey of Bouillon, Duke of Lower Lorraine, leader of the First Crusade, took the title Defender of the Holy Sepulchre (1099-1100), *about 1060, +Palestine 1100, buried Jerusalem
..B3. (by 2) Baldwin, Count of Edessa (1098-1100), King of Jerusalem (1100-1118), +Al-Arish III.1118, m. (1) before 1096 Godehild de Tosny (+Germanicea, Cilicia, 1097), divorced wife of Robert I de Beaumont, Count of Meulan, 1st Earl of Leicester; m. (2) 1098/1100 (later repudiated) Arda, an Armenian princess (+Constantinople after 1117); m. (3) 1113 (repudiated 1117) Adelaide/Adelasie/Adelaite of Savona (+1118), widow of Roger I, Count of Sicily
..B4. (illegitimate) Geoffrey of Boulogne, of Carshalton, Surrey, +after 1086, m. before 1084 Beatrice de Mandeville
...C1. William de Boulogne, of Carshalton, Surrey, living 1106, +before 1130, m. (1) _____; m. (2) _____
....D1. (by 1) Faramus of Boulogne (or Tingry), of Carshalton, Surrey, Martock, Somerset, etc., seigneur of Tingry (Pas de Calais), +1183/4; m. Maud _____
.....E1. William of Boulogne, +before 1184
......E2. Sibyl of Boulogne (or Tingry), +1212/14, m. (1) Enguerrand de Fiennes, seigneur of Fiennes (Pas de Calais) (+killed at Acre 1189); m. (2) Robert de Caieu (or Cayeu) (+after 1197)
......F1. William de Fiennes, of Fiennes and Tingry (Pas-de-Calais), +1244, m. before 4 Jan. 1203/4 Agnès de Dammartin (+after 1244)
....D2. Eustace of Boulogne, +after 1130
....D3. Simon of Boulogne, +after 1130
....D4. Rohese of Boulogne, +before 1151, bur. Holy Trinity, London, m. Richard de Lucy, of Chipping Ongar, Essex, Chief Justiciar of England (+14 July 1179)
.A2. Godfrey of Boulogne, Bishop of Paris, Arch-Chancellor of France, +1095
.A3. Lambert, Count of Lens, +killed Phalempin 1054; m. 1053/54 Alice (Aelidis, Adeliza) of Normandy (*ca 1030, +1081/84), widow of Enguerrand II, Count of Ponthieu
..B1. Judith of Lens, *1054, +after 1086; m. 1070 Waltheof, Earl of Northumberland, Huntingdon, and Northampton (+beheaded 31 May 1076, bur. Crowland)
...C1. Maud of Northumberland, + 1130/1, m. (1) Simon de Senlis I, Earl of Huntingdon and Northampton (+La Charité about 1111); m. (2) 1113 David I, King of Scotland, Earl of Huntingdon (+Carlisle 24 May 1153)
....D1. (by 1) Simon de Senlis II, Earl of Huntingdon, +Aug.1153, bur. St. Andrew's, m. Isabel (or Elizabeth) de Beaumont (+after 1187)
.....E1. Simon de Senlis III, Earl of Northampton, +1184, m. Alice de Gant
.....E2. Isabel de Senlis, m. William Mauduit III, chamberlain of Kings Henry II and Richard I (+about 1194/5)
.....E3. (illegitimate) Simon de Senlis
....D2. (by 1) [Saint] Waltheof, monk at Wardon Abbey, afterwards Abbot of Melrose, +3 Aug 1159
....D3. (by 1) Maud de Senlis, +after 1158/63, m. (1) Robert Fitz Richard, of Little Dunmow, Essex (+1137); m. (2) Saher de Quincy I, of Long Buckby, Northamptonshire (+1190) [Saher de Quincy I m. (2) Asceline everel, widow of Geoffrey de Waterville]
.....E1. (by 1) Walter Fitz Robert, of Little Dunmow, Essex, *before 1136, +1198, m. (1) before 1161 Maud de Lucy (+after c. 1175); m. (2) Maud de Bohun, widow of Henry d'Oilly (she +after 1201)
.....E2. (by 1) Maud de Senlis, +after 1185, m. (1) William d'Aubeney; m. (2) Richard de Luvetot, of Sheffield, Yorkshire (+1171)
......F1. (by 1) William d'Aubeney, of Belvoir, Leicestershire, Magna Carta Surety,*after 1146, +1236, m. (1) Margery (or Margaret) de Umfreville; m. (2) about 29 Sept. 1198 Agatha Trussebut, widow of Hamo Fitz Hamo (she +1247)
......F2. (by 1) Maud d'Aubeney (+after 1210), m. Gilbert, Earl of Strathearn (+1233)
.....E3. (by 2) Saher de Quincy II, *before 1152 (of age in or before c. 1173), +1184/90, m. _____
......F1. Saher de Quincy III, of Long Buckby, Northamptonshire, +1190/92, s.p.
.....E4. (by 2) Robert de Quincy I, +about 1207-8, m. (1) Orabel Fitz Ness (divorced); m. (2) Eve Fitz Uchtred of Galloway
......F1. (by 1) Saher de Quincy III, 1st Earl of Winchester, Magna Carta Surety, +1219, m. Margaret de Beaumont (+1236)
.......G1. Robert de Quincy II, of Long Buckby, Northamptonshire, Grantchester, Cambridgeshire, Hardwick, Huntingdonshire, and Bradenham, Norfolk, +London 1217, m. probably after 1207 Hawise of Chester, Countess of Lincoln (+1243)
.......G2. Roger de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester, +25 Apr. 1264, m. (1) Ellen of Galloway (+after 21 Nov. 1245); m. (2) before 6 June 1250 Maud de Bohun, widow of Anselm Marshal (she + 20 Oct. 1252); m. (3) before 5 Dec. 1252 Eleanor de Ferrers, widow of William de Vaux (she +1274)
.......G3. Reynold de Quincy, +after 1213
.......G4. Robert de Quincy III, of Colne Quincy, Essex, +Aug. 1257, m. before 5 Dec. 1237 Ellen of Wales, widow of John of Scotland, Earl of Chester and Huntingdon (she +1253)
.......G5. John de Quincy, +young
.......G6. Lorette de Quincy, m. William de Valoines, of Panmure, Forfarshire, Scotland, Chamberlain of Scotland (+Kelso 1219)
.......G7. Orabel de Quincy, m. before 1219 Richard de Harcourt, of Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire (+1258)
.......G8. Hawise de Quincy, +3 Feb. (year unknown), m. about Feb. 1222/3 Hugh de Vere, 4th Earl of Oxford (+before 23 Dec. 1263)
......F2. (by 1) _____ de Quincy, m. _____ de Saint Andrew
.......G1. Saher de Saint Andrew, of East Haddon, Northamptonshire, and Gotham, Nottinghamshire, +1253/60, m. Maud de Dive
.......G2. Roger de Saint Andrew, of Littlemore, Oxfordshire, +1230/49
.....E5. (by 2) Alice de Senlis, +after 1198¬1204, m. Roger (Fitz William) de Huntingfield, of Huntingfield and Mendham, Suffolk (+1204)
.......G1. William de Huntingfield, of Huntingfield and Mendham, Suffolk, Magna Carta Surety, +1220/1, m. Isabel Fitz William (or de Gressenhall), widow of Berenger de Cressy and Osmund de Stuteville
....D4. (by 2) Malcolm of Scotland, +young
....D5. (by 2) Clarice of Scotland, +young
....D6. (by 2) Hodierne of Scotland, +young
....D7. (by 2) Henry of Scotland, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland, *about 1114, +12 June 1152, m. 1139 Ada de Warenne (+1178)
.....E1. Malcolm IV, King of Scotland, Earl of Huntingdon, *20 Mar. 1141/2, +Jedburgh 9 Dec. 1165 unmarried
.....E2. William the Lion, King of Scotland, Earl of Huntingdon, *1143, +Stirling 4 Dec. 1214, m. Woodstock 5 Sept. 1186 Ermengarde de Beaumont
(+11 Feb. 1233/4)
.....E3. David of Scotland, Earl of Huntingdon, *about 1144, +Yardley, Northamptonshire 17 June 1219, m. 26 Aug. 1190 Maud of Chester (+ about
6 Jan. 1233)
.....E4. Ada of Scotland, m. 1162 Florent III, Count of Holland
.....E5. Margaret (or Margery) of Scotland, *abut 1145, +1201, m. (1) 1160 Conan IV, Duke of Brittany, Earl of Richmond (+20 Feb. 1171); m. (2) before Easter 1175 Humphrey de Bohun, Earl of Hereford (+c.1181)
......F1. (by 1) Constance, Duchess of Brittany, +4 or 5 Sept. 1201, m. Geoffrey of England, Duke of Brittany (+Paris 19 Aug. 1186); m. (2) Ranulf, Earl of Chester; m. (3) Guy de Thouars
......F2. (by 2) Henry de Bohun, 5th Earl of Hereford, Magna Carta Surety, +1 June 1220, m. Maud de Mandeville, Countess of Essex (+27 Aug. 1236)
.......G1. Humphrey de Bohun, 6th Earl of Hereford, +24 Sept. 1275, m. (1) Maud of Eu (+14 Aug. 1241); m. (2) Maud of Avenbury (+8 Oct. 1273)
.......G2. William de Bohun
.......G3. Henry de Bohun
.......G4. Grace de Bohun, m. Robert de Dunstanville
.....E6. Maud of Scotland, +young
...C2. Alice of Northumberland, +after 1126, m. Ralph IV de Tony, of Flamstead, Hertfordshire (+about 1126)
....D1. Roger III de Tony, of Flamstead, Hertfordshire, m. before 1135 Ida of Hainault
.....E1. Ralph III de Tony, of Flamstead, Hertfordshire, m. Margaret de Beaumont
.....E2. Geoffrey de Tony
.....E3. Baldwin de Tony
.....E4. Roger de Tony, of Holkham, Norfolk, +before 1185, m. Ada de Chaumont (*about 1155, +after 1185)
.....E5. Godehild de Tony, +before 1186, m. William de Mohun, of Dunster, Somerset (+1176)
....D2. Hugh de Tony, +young, bur. Holy Trinity, London
....D3. Simon de Tony
....D4. Godehild (or Godeheld) de Tony, +after 1143, m. before 1139 Robert de Newburgh
.....E1. Henry de Newburgh, +after 1178
......F1. Robert de Newburgh, +after 1190
.....E2. Ralph de Newburgh
.....E3. Robert de Newburgh (clerk)
....D5. Isabel de Tony, m. Walter Fitz Richard (+1138)
.A4. Gerberge of Boulogne, married Friedrich II, Duke of Lower Lorraine (+1065)
..B1. Jutta of Luxembourg, married Walram II, Count of Arlon
...C1. Heinrich I, Count of Limburg, Duke of Lower Lorraine, +1119, m. Adelheid of Pottenstein
....D1. Walram III, Count of Limburg, Duke of Lower Lorraine, +1139, m. Jutta of Geldern-Wassenberg
.....E1. Heinrich II, Duke of Limburg, Margrave of Arlon, +1167, m. (1) Mathilde of Saffenberg (+1145); (2) Laurette of Lorraine-Flanders
.....E2. Walram IV, Margrave of Arlon (+after 1145)
.....E3. Gerhard I, of Wassenberg (+after 1166)
.....E4. Agnes of Limburg, m. Walram of Veckenstedt (+1126)
.....E5. Beatrix of Limburg, m. Ruprecht I, Count of Nassau (+after 1152)
.....E6. NN of Limburg (daughter), m. Ekbert, Count of Tecklenburg (+1146/50)
....D2. Agnes of Limburg, m. Friedrich IV, Pfalzgraf von Sachsen (+1125)
.....E1. Heinrich of Putelendorf, Pfalzgraf von Sachsen (+1126)
.....E2. Friedrich, Count of Putelendorf, Pfalzgraf von Sachsen (+1179), m. Gisela of Schwatrzburg
.....E3. Bertha of Putelendorf, m. Berthold I, Count of Henneberg, Burgrave of Würzburg (+1157)
....D3. Adelheid of Limburg, +1143, m. (1) Friedrich I, Count of Werl (+1124); m. (2) Kuno II, Count of Horburg-Lechshemünd (+1139); m. (3) Konrad II, Count of Dachau, Duke of Meranien-Dalmatien (+1159)
.....E1. (by 1) Jutta (or Ida) of Werl, m. (1) Gottfried II, Count of Cappenberg (+1127); m. (2) Gottfried of Cuyck, Count of Arnsberg (+after 1168)
....D4. Mathilde of Limburg, m. Henri I, Count of La Roche (+before 1138)
.....E1. Geoffroi, Count of La Roche (+before 28 Feb. 1143)
.....E2. Henri II, Count of La Roche (+before 10 Jan. 1153)
.....E3. Thierry de La Roche, Archbbishop of Tyre (+1174)
.....E4. Mathilde de La Roche, m. (1) Thierry I, of Walcourt (+after 1147); m. (2) before 1150 Nicholas d'Oisy, of Avesnes (+ 1168/71)
.....E5. Beatrix de La Roche, m. Gerard of Brunesheim, of Breda (+before 1152)
Unidentified Boulogne kinsfolk: Geoffrey, Bishop of Chartres, 1076-1098 (removed for simony) [styled "nepos" [i.e., kinsman or nephew] to Count Eustache II of Boulogne and Godfrey Bishop of Paris]. [Note: Bishop Geoffrey had a kinsman named Guillaume ("Willelmi, nepotis episcopi") who witnessed one of his charters in 1084 - see M. Guérard Collection des Cartulaires de France 1: Cartulaire de l'Abbaye de Saint-Père de Chartres (1840): 244-245].8
; This is the same person as ”Eustace I, Count of Boulogne” at Wikipedia and as ”Eustache Ier de Boulogne” at Wikipédia (FR).20,21
; Per Genealogics:
“Europaische Stammtafeln indicates that the parents of Eustace were Baudouin II, comte de Boulogne, and his wife Adeline/Adeliva. However other sources indicate that his family background is unknown. In the _Genealogica comitum Buloniensium_ of the late 11th century, the earliest known genealogy of the counts of Boulogne, Eustace is listed in the first line of the house of Boulogne. However this source is silent as to his descent. In the _History of the Counts of Guines and Lords of Ardres_ by the chronicler Lambert d'Ardres (1160-1227), a _Bolonie comitem Erniculum_ ...is given as father of one Eustace. How this genealogical information relates to Eustace I cannot be resolved.
“Eustace was married to Mathilde de Louvain, daughter of Lambert I, comte de Louvain, and Gerberga of Lower-Lorraine. Their sons Eustace II, Godefroy and Lambert, and daughter Gerberge would have progeny.
“Eustace died about 1049, and was buried in Samer, Boulogne.”.11 Eustache I «A l’oeil» (?) Comte de Boulogne was also known as Eustache 1er «A l’oeil» (?) comte de Boulogne.5 Eustache I «A l’oeil» (?) Comte de Boulogne was also known as Eustace I (?) Count of Boulogne.8
; Per Med Lands:
"EUSTACHE [I] de Boulogne (-[1049]). Comte de Boulogne. Malbodus, abbatus" records donations to the abbey of Saint-Amand by charter dated to [1061] including "villam…Lurcium" held "ex comite Balduino" by "Eustachius comes et quidam miles Rainerus"[443]. It is possible, but not certain, that this charter refers to Eustache [I]. "Karolus…comes Flandrie" confirmed property of the abbey of Marchiennes at Lille by charter dated 1125 which names "comes Balduinus proavus meus…coniuge sua comitissa Adela, et…baronibus suis Eustachio…comite Bolonie, Rogero comite de Sancto Paulo"[444], presumably referring to Baudouin V Count of Flanders and so dated to between 1035 and 1067, in which case the document could refer either to Eustache [I] or Eustache [II].
"m MATHILDE de Louvain, daughter of LAMBERT I "le Barbu" Comte de Louvain & his wife Gerberge de Lorraine [Carolingian] ([990/1000]-). The Genealogica comitum Buloniensium records that "Henricum seniorem de Bursella [=filius Ermengardis]" was father of "Lambertum comitem et Henricum fratrem eius et Mathildem sororem eorum", specifying that Mathilde married "comes Eustachius de Bolonia"[445], but this appears to be a confused representation of the situation. The primary source which confirms that Mathilde was the daughter of Comte Lambert [I] has not been identified but this is compatible with the chronology. Her birth date range is estimated from the estimated date of her parents' marriage and the likely birth date of her eldest son in [1015/20]. This shows that it is chronologically impossible for Mathilde's father to have been the son of Ermengardis of Lower Lotharingia."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire (Boulogne): “? Eustache 1er «A l’oeil» de Boulogne + 1049 comte de Boulogne (1042)
ép. Mathilde de Louvain ° 990/1000 (fille de Lambert 1er «Le Barbu», comte de Louvain, et de Gerberge de Lorraine)”
Per Racines et Histoire (Brabant): “Mahaut (Mathilde) de Louvain ° ~992/1000
ép. Eustache 1er «A l’oeil», comte de Boulogne (1042) + 1049 (fils de Baudouin II, comte de Boulogne et d’Adélaïs de Frise-Hollande ; ép. 2) Ermengarde de Montreuil) ”.16,14
; Per Genealogy.EU (Boulogne): “Cte Eustache I de Boulogne, +ca 1049; apparently son of Baudoin de Boulogne [by Ada of Ghent], son of Guy de Guisnes; m. Matilda of Louvaine
”.22
; Per Med Lands:
"MATHILDE de Louvain ([992/1000]-). The Genealogica comitum Buloniensium records that "Henricum seniorem de Bursella [=filius Ermengardis]" was father of "Lambertum comitem et Henricum fratrem eius et Mathildem sororem eorum", specifying that Mathilde married "comes Eustachius de Bolonia"[51], but this appears to be a confused representation of the situation. The primary source which confirms that Mathilde was the daughter of Comte Lambert [I] has not yet been identified but this is compatible with the chronology. Her birth date range estimated from the estimated date of her parents' marriage and the likely birth date of her eldest son in [1015/20]. This shows that it is chronologically impossible for Mathilde's father to have been the son of Ermengardis of Lower Lotharingia.
"m EUSTACHE Comte [de Boulogne], son of BAUDOUIN Comte [de Boulogne] & his wife Adelais of Holland (-[1049]). He succeeded in 1042 as Comte de Boulogne."
Med Lands cites:
; NB: The ancestry of Gui and the subsequent Comtes de Boulogne is unclear.
Med Lands points out that "...the continuity of the names Arnoul and Baudouin suggests that a close family connection is likely. If they are related, chronology suggests that there were two generations between Count Arnoul [I] and Count Eustache [I]." No parents are shown for Eustache I. Baudouin (I) is also shown as an individual without parents or children.
Genealogics shows no children for Arnoul /Arnulf I, but shows Eustache I the grandson of --Gui:
---->Gui, had a son
------>Baudouin II, had a son
-------->Eustache I.
If Gui were a sone of Arnoul/Arnulf I, it would satisfy Med Lands' remark concerning the two generation gap between Arnoul I and Eustache I. However, I can find no other support for this idea, so for the moment I have left Gui without parents and Arnoul I without children. GA Vaut.23,24,25,26 He was Comte de Boulogne between 1033 and 1047.21 He was Comte de Boulogne in 1042.9,5
Eustache I «A l’oeil» (?) Comte de Boulogne died circa 1049.19,1,2,9,5,11
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: II 8.
2. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales Edinburgh, 1977., Gerald Paget, Reference: 59.
3. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 105.11
GAV-27. 2. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales Edinburgh, 1977., Gerald Paget, Reference: 59.
3. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 105.11
; Per Richardson email:
Subject: Extended Pedigree of Counts of Boulogne-sur-Mer
From: "Douglas Richardson royalancestry@msn.com"
Date: 22 Jun 2005 17:13:25 -0700
To: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com
"For interest's sake, I've posted below an extended pedigree of the Counts of Boulogne-sur-Mer. The pedigree commences with Eustache I, Count of Boulogne, who died circa 1049. Most lines are traced out to the fifth or sixth generations. Several Magna Carta barons are connected to the Boulogne family, namely William d'Aubeney, Henry de Bohun, William de Huntingfield, and Saher de Quincy. For a history of the Magna Carta barons and their descendants, please see my new book, Magna Carta Ancestry.
"If anyone has any corrections or additions to the pedigree below, I'd appreciate it they would post them on the newsgroup for further discussion.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
Website: www.royalancestry.net
EXTENDED PEDIGREE OF COUNTS OF BOULOGNE-SUR-MER
Eustache I, Count of Boulogne, +ca 1049, son and heir of Baldwin, Count of Boulogne, by Ada de Gant; m. Maud (or Mahaut) of Louvain
.A1. Eustache II, Count of Boulogne, +about 1093; m. (1) before 1049 Goda of England, widow of Dreux, Count of Vexin; m. (2) 1057 [Saint] Ida of Lorraine (+13 Aug. 1113) << April
..B1. (by 2) Eustache III, Count of Boulogne and Lens, went on the First Crusade, +after 1125; m. 1101/02 Mary of Scotland (+1116)
...C1. Maud of Boulogne, Countess of Boulogne, Queen of England, +30 May 1151; m. 1125 Stephen of Blois, King of England (+25 Oct. 1154)
....D1. Eustache of England, Count of Boulogne, +16 Aug. 1153, bur. Faversham, m. Feb. 1140 Constance of France (+16 Aug. 1176)
....D2. William of England, Count of Boulogne and Mortain, 4th Earl of Surrey, + Toulouse expedition Oct. 1159, m. before 1153 Isabel de Warenne (+possibly 12 July 1199)
....D3. Baldwin of England, +young, bur. Holy Trinity, London
....D4. Mary of England, Abbess of Romsey, Countess of Boulogne, *about 1136, +at St. Austreberthe Abbey at Montreuil-sur-Mer 1182, m. 1160 (as his 1st wife) Mathieu of Flanders, Count of Boulogne (+25 July 1173)
.....E1. Ida of Boulogne, Countess of Boulogne, +1216, m. (1) Mathieu _____; m. (2) 1180 Gerhard III, Count of Guelders (+1182); m. (3) 1183 Berthold IV, Duke of Zähringen (+8 Dec. 1186); m. (4) 1190 Renaud, Count of Dammartin
.....E2. Mahaud (or Machtild) of Boulogne, +1210/1, m. 1179 or 1180 Henri I, Duke of Brabant and Lorraine (+5 Sept. 1235)
....D5. Maud of England, +young, bur. Holy Trinity, London
...C2. Godfrey of Boulogne [illegitimate] (styled "nephew" [nepos] of King Baldwin I of Jerusalem), +killed at Battle of Sinnabrah 1113
...C3. Ralph of Boulogne [illegitimate], +after 1120/5
...C4. Eustache of Boulogne [illegitimate], +after 1120/5
..B2. (by 2) Godfrey of Bouillon, Duke of Lower Lorraine, leader of the First Crusade, took the title Defender of the Holy Sepulchre (1099-1100), *about 1060, +Palestine 1100, buried Jerusalem
..B3. (by 2) Baldwin, Count of Edessa (1098-1100), King of Jerusalem (1100-1118), +Al-Arish III.1118, m. (1) before 1096 Godehild de Tosny (+Germanicea, Cilicia, 1097), divorced wife of Robert I de Beaumont, Count of Meulan, 1st Earl of Leicester; m. (2) 1098/1100 (later repudiated) Arda, an Armenian princess (+Constantinople after 1117); m. (3) 1113 (repudiated 1117) Adelaide/Adelasie/Adelaite of Savona (+1118), widow of Roger I, Count of Sicily
..B4. (illegitimate) Geoffrey of Boulogne, of Carshalton, Surrey, +after 1086, m. before 1084 Beatrice de Mandeville
...C1. William de Boulogne, of Carshalton, Surrey, living 1106, +before 1130, m. (1) _____; m. (2) _____
....D1. (by 1) Faramus of Boulogne (or Tingry), of Carshalton, Surrey, Martock, Somerset, etc., seigneur of Tingry (Pas de Calais), +1183/4; m. Maud _____
.....E1. William of Boulogne, +before 1184
......E2. Sibyl of Boulogne (or Tingry), +1212/14, m. (1) Enguerrand de Fiennes, seigneur of Fiennes (Pas de Calais) (+killed at Acre 1189); m. (2) Robert de Caieu (or Cayeu) (+after 1197)
......F1. William de Fiennes, of Fiennes and Tingry (Pas-de-Calais), +1244, m. before 4 Jan. 1203/4 Agnès de Dammartin (+after 1244)
....D2. Eustace of Boulogne, +after 1130
....D3. Simon of Boulogne, +after 1130
....D4. Rohese of Boulogne, +before 1151, bur. Holy Trinity, London, m. Richard de Lucy, of Chipping Ongar, Essex, Chief Justiciar of England (+14 July 1179)
.A2. Godfrey of Boulogne, Bishop of Paris, Arch-Chancellor of France, +1095
.A3. Lambert, Count of Lens, +killed Phalempin 1054; m. 1053/54 Alice (Aelidis, Adeliza) of Normandy (*ca 1030, +1081/84), widow of Enguerrand II, Count of Ponthieu
..B1. Judith of Lens, *1054, +after 1086; m. 1070 Waltheof, Earl of Northumberland, Huntingdon, and Northampton (+beheaded 31 May 1076, bur. Crowland)
...C1. Maud of Northumberland, + 1130/1, m. (1) Simon de Senlis I, Earl of Huntingdon and Northampton (+La Charité about 1111); m. (2) 1113 David I, King of Scotland, Earl of Huntingdon (+Carlisle 24 May 1153)
....D1. (by 1) Simon de Senlis II, Earl of Huntingdon, +Aug.1153, bur. St. Andrew's, m. Isabel (or Elizabeth) de Beaumont (+after 1187)
.....E1. Simon de Senlis III, Earl of Northampton, +1184, m. Alice de Gant
.....E2. Isabel de Senlis, m. William Mauduit III, chamberlain of Kings Henry II and Richard I (+about 1194/5)
.....E3. (illegitimate) Simon de Senlis
....D2. (by 1) [Saint] Waltheof, monk at Wardon Abbey, afterwards Abbot of Melrose, +3 Aug 1159
....D3. (by 1) Maud de Senlis, +after 1158/63, m. (1) Robert Fitz Richard, of Little Dunmow, Essex (+1137); m. (2) Saher de Quincy I, of Long Buckby, Northamptonshire (+1190) [Saher de Quincy I m. (2) Asceline everel, widow of Geoffrey de Waterville]
.....E1. (by 1) Walter Fitz Robert, of Little Dunmow, Essex, *before 1136, +1198, m. (1) before 1161 Maud de Lucy (+after c. 1175); m. (2) Maud de Bohun, widow of Henry d'Oilly (she +after 1201)
.....E2. (by 1) Maud de Senlis, +after 1185, m. (1) William d'Aubeney; m. (2) Richard de Luvetot, of Sheffield, Yorkshire (+1171)
......F1. (by 1) William d'Aubeney, of Belvoir, Leicestershire, Magna Carta Surety,*after 1146, +1236, m. (1) Margery (or Margaret) de Umfreville; m. (2) about 29 Sept. 1198 Agatha Trussebut, widow of Hamo Fitz Hamo (she +1247)
......F2. (by 1) Maud d'Aubeney (+after 1210), m. Gilbert, Earl of Strathearn (+1233)
.....E3. (by 2) Saher de Quincy II, *before 1152 (of age in or before c. 1173), +1184/90, m. _____
......F1. Saher de Quincy III, of Long Buckby, Northamptonshire, +1190/92, s.p.
.....E4. (by 2) Robert de Quincy I, +about 1207-8, m. (1) Orabel Fitz Ness (divorced); m. (2) Eve Fitz Uchtred of Galloway
......F1. (by 1) Saher de Quincy III, 1st Earl of Winchester, Magna Carta Surety, +1219, m. Margaret de Beaumont (+1236)
.......G1. Robert de Quincy II, of Long Buckby, Northamptonshire, Grantchester, Cambridgeshire, Hardwick, Huntingdonshire, and Bradenham, Norfolk, +London 1217, m. probably after 1207 Hawise of Chester, Countess of Lincoln (+1243)
.......G2. Roger de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester, +25 Apr. 1264, m. (1) Ellen of Galloway (+after 21 Nov. 1245); m. (2) before 6 June 1250 Maud de Bohun, widow of Anselm Marshal (she + 20 Oct. 1252); m. (3) before 5 Dec. 1252 Eleanor de Ferrers, widow of William de Vaux (she +1274)
.......G3. Reynold de Quincy, +after 1213
.......G4. Robert de Quincy III, of Colne Quincy, Essex, +Aug. 1257, m. before 5 Dec. 1237 Ellen of Wales, widow of John of Scotland, Earl of Chester and Huntingdon (she +1253)
.......G5. John de Quincy, +young
.......G6. Lorette de Quincy, m. William de Valoines, of Panmure, Forfarshire, Scotland, Chamberlain of Scotland (+Kelso 1219)
.......G7. Orabel de Quincy, m. before 1219 Richard de Harcourt, of Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire (+1258)
.......G8. Hawise de Quincy, +3 Feb. (year unknown), m. about Feb. 1222/3 Hugh de Vere, 4th Earl of Oxford (+before 23 Dec. 1263)
......F2. (by 1) _____ de Quincy, m. _____ de Saint Andrew
.......G1. Saher de Saint Andrew, of East Haddon, Northamptonshire, and Gotham, Nottinghamshire, +1253/60, m. Maud de Dive
.......G2. Roger de Saint Andrew, of Littlemore, Oxfordshire, +1230/49
.....E5. (by 2) Alice de Senlis, +after 1198¬1204, m. Roger (Fitz William) de Huntingfield, of Huntingfield and Mendham, Suffolk (+1204)
.......G1. William de Huntingfield, of Huntingfield and Mendham, Suffolk, Magna Carta Surety, +1220/1, m. Isabel Fitz William (or de Gressenhall), widow of Berenger de Cressy and Osmund de Stuteville
....D4. (by 2) Malcolm of Scotland, +young
....D5. (by 2) Clarice of Scotland, +young
....D6. (by 2) Hodierne of Scotland, +young
....D7. (by 2) Henry of Scotland, Earl of Huntingdon and Northumberland, *about 1114, +12 June 1152, m. 1139 Ada de Warenne (+1178)
.....E1. Malcolm IV, King of Scotland, Earl of Huntingdon, *20 Mar. 1141/2, +Jedburgh 9 Dec. 1165 unmarried
.....E2. William the Lion, King of Scotland, Earl of Huntingdon, *1143, +Stirling 4 Dec. 1214, m. Woodstock 5 Sept. 1186 Ermengarde de Beaumont
(+11 Feb. 1233/4)
.....E3. David of Scotland, Earl of Huntingdon, *about 1144, +Yardley, Northamptonshire 17 June 1219, m. 26 Aug. 1190 Maud of Chester (+ about
6 Jan. 1233)
.....E4. Ada of Scotland, m. 1162 Florent III, Count of Holland
.....E5. Margaret (or Margery) of Scotland, *abut 1145, +1201, m. (1) 1160 Conan IV, Duke of Brittany, Earl of Richmond (+20 Feb. 1171); m. (2) before Easter 1175 Humphrey de Bohun, Earl of Hereford (+c.1181)
......F1. (by 1) Constance, Duchess of Brittany, +4 or 5 Sept. 1201, m. Geoffrey of England, Duke of Brittany (+Paris 19 Aug. 1186); m. (2) Ranulf, Earl of Chester; m. (3) Guy de Thouars
......F2. (by 2) Henry de Bohun, 5th Earl of Hereford, Magna Carta Surety, +1 June 1220, m. Maud de Mandeville, Countess of Essex (+27 Aug. 1236)
.......G1. Humphrey de Bohun, 6th Earl of Hereford, +24 Sept. 1275, m. (1) Maud of Eu (+14 Aug. 1241); m. (2) Maud of Avenbury (+8 Oct. 1273)
.......G2. William de Bohun
.......G3. Henry de Bohun
.......G4. Grace de Bohun, m. Robert de Dunstanville
.....E6. Maud of Scotland, +young
...C2. Alice of Northumberland, +after 1126, m. Ralph IV de Tony, of Flamstead, Hertfordshire (+about 1126)
....D1. Roger III de Tony, of Flamstead, Hertfordshire, m. before 1135 Ida of Hainault
.....E1. Ralph III de Tony, of Flamstead, Hertfordshire, m. Margaret de Beaumont
.....E2. Geoffrey de Tony
.....E3. Baldwin de Tony
.....E4. Roger de Tony, of Holkham, Norfolk, +before 1185, m. Ada de Chaumont (*about 1155, +after 1185)
.....E5. Godehild de Tony, +before 1186, m. William de Mohun, of Dunster, Somerset (+1176)
....D2. Hugh de Tony, +young, bur. Holy Trinity, London
....D3. Simon de Tony
....D4. Godehild (or Godeheld) de Tony, +after 1143, m. before 1139 Robert de Newburgh
.....E1. Henry de Newburgh, +after 1178
......F1. Robert de Newburgh, +after 1190
.....E2. Ralph de Newburgh
.....E3. Robert de Newburgh (clerk)
....D5. Isabel de Tony, m. Walter Fitz Richard (+1138)
.A4. Gerberge of Boulogne, married Friedrich II, Duke of Lower Lorraine (+1065)
..B1. Jutta of Luxembourg, married Walram II, Count of Arlon
...C1. Heinrich I, Count of Limburg, Duke of Lower Lorraine, +1119, m. Adelheid of Pottenstein
....D1. Walram III, Count of Limburg, Duke of Lower Lorraine, +1139, m. Jutta of Geldern-Wassenberg
.....E1. Heinrich II, Duke of Limburg, Margrave of Arlon, +1167, m. (1) Mathilde of Saffenberg (+1145); (2) Laurette of Lorraine-Flanders
.....E2. Walram IV, Margrave of Arlon (+after 1145)
.....E3. Gerhard I, of Wassenberg (+after 1166)
.....E4. Agnes of Limburg, m. Walram of Veckenstedt (+1126)
.....E5. Beatrix of Limburg, m. Ruprecht I, Count of Nassau (+after 1152)
.....E6. NN of Limburg (daughter), m. Ekbert, Count of Tecklenburg (+1146/50)
....D2. Agnes of Limburg, m. Friedrich IV, Pfalzgraf von Sachsen (+1125)
.....E1. Heinrich of Putelendorf, Pfalzgraf von Sachsen (+1126)
.....E2. Friedrich, Count of Putelendorf, Pfalzgraf von Sachsen (+1179), m. Gisela of Schwatrzburg
.....E3. Bertha of Putelendorf, m. Berthold I, Count of Henneberg, Burgrave of Würzburg (+1157)
....D3. Adelheid of Limburg, +1143, m. (1) Friedrich I, Count of Werl (+1124); m. (2) Kuno II, Count of Horburg-Lechshemünd (+1139); m. (3) Konrad II, Count of Dachau, Duke of Meranien-Dalmatien (+1159)
.....E1. (by 1) Jutta (or Ida) of Werl, m. (1) Gottfried II, Count of Cappenberg (+1127); m. (2) Gottfried of Cuyck, Count of Arnsberg (+after 1168)
....D4. Mathilde of Limburg, m. Henri I, Count of La Roche (+before 1138)
.....E1. Geoffroi, Count of La Roche (+before 28 Feb. 1143)
.....E2. Henri II, Count of La Roche (+before 10 Jan. 1153)
.....E3. Thierry de La Roche, Archbbishop of Tyre (+1174)
.....E4. Mathilde de La Roche, m. (1) Thierry I, of Walcourt (+after 1147); m. (2) before 1150 Nicholas d'Oisy, of Avesnes (+ 1168/71)
.....E5. Beatrix de La Roche, m. Gerard of Brunesheim, of Breda (+before 1152)
Unidentified Boulogne kinsfolk: Geoffrey, Bishop of Chartres, 1076-1098 (removed for simony) [styled "nepos" [i.e., kinsman or nephew] to Count Eustache II of Boulogne and Godfrey Bishop of Paris]. [Note: Bishop Geoffrey had a kinsman named Guillaume ("Willelmi, nepotis episcopi") who witnessed one of his charters in 1084 - see M. Guérard Collection des Cartulaires de France 1: Cartulaire de l'Abbaye de Saint-Père de Chartres (1840): 244-245].8
; This is the same person as ”Eustace I, Count of Boulogne” at Wikipedia and as ”Eustache Ier de Boulogne” at Wikipédia (FR).20,21
; Per Genealogics:
“Europaische Stammtafeln indicates that the parents of Eustace were Baudouin II, comte de Boulogne, and his wife Adeline/Adeliva. However other sources indicate that his family background is unknown. In the _Genealogica comitum Buloniensium_ of the late 11th century, the earliest known genealogy of the counts of Boulogne, Eustace is listed in the first line of the house of Boulogne. However this source is silent as to his descent. In the _History of the Counts of Guines and Lords of Ardres_ by the chronicler Lambert d'Ardres (1160-1227), a _Bolonie comitem Erniculum_ ...is given as father of one Eustace. How this genealogical information relates to Eustace I cannot be resolved.
“Eustace was married to Mathilde de Louvain, daughter of Lambert I, comte de Louvain, and Gerberga of Lower-Lorraine. Their sons Eustace II, Godefroy and Lambert, and daughter Gerberge would have progeny.
“Eustace died about 1049, and was buried in Samer, Boulogne.”.11 Eustache I «A l’oeil» (?) Comte de Boulogne was also known as Eustache 1er «A l’oeil» (?) comte de Boulogne.5 Eustache I «A l’oeil» (?) Comte de Boulogne was also known as Eustace I (?) Count of Boulogne.8
; Per Med Lands:
"EUSTACHE [I] de Boulogne (-[1049]). Comte de Boulogne. Malbodus, abbatus" records donations to the abbey of Saint-Amand by charter dated to [1061] including "villam…Lurcium" held "ex comite Balduino" by "Eustachius comes et quidam miles Rainerus"[443]. It is possible, but not certain, that this charter refers to Eustache [I]. "Karolus…comes Flandrie" confirmed property of the abbey of Marchiennes at Lille by charter dated 1125 which names "comes Balduinus proavus meus…coniuge sua comitissa Adela, et…baronibus suis Eustachio…comite Bolonie, Rogero comite de Sancto Paulo"[444], presumably referring to Baudouin V Count of Flanders and so dated to between 1035 and 1067, in which case the document could refer either to Eustache [I] or Eustache [II].
"m MATHILDE de Louvain, daughter of LAMBERT I "le Barbu" Comte de Louvain & his wife Gerberge de Lorraine [Carolingian] ([990/1000]-). The Genealogica comitum Buloniensium records that "Henricum seniorem de Bursella [=filius Ermengardis]" was father of "Lambertum comitem et Henricum fratrem eius et Mathildem sororem eorum", specifying that Mathilde married "comes Eustachius de Bolonia"[445], but this appears to be a confused representation of the situation. The primary source which confirms that Mathilde was the daughter of Comte Lambert [I] has not been identified but this is compatible with the chronology. Her birth date range is estimated from the estimated date of her parents' marriage and the likely birth date of her eldest son in [1015/20]. This shows that it is chronologically impossible for Mathilde's father to have been the son of Ermengardis of Lower Lotharingia."
Med Lands cites:
[443] Duvivier (1898), pp. 37-8.
[444] Duvivier (1898), pp. 166-8.
[445] Genealogica comitum Buloniensium MGH SS IX, p. 301.12
[444] Duvivier (1898), pp. 166-8.
[445] Genealogica comitum Buloniensium MGH SS IX, p. 301.12
; Per Racines et Histoire (Boulogne): “? Eustache 1er «A l’oeil» de Boulogne + 1049 comte de Boulogne (1042)
ép. Mathilde de Louvain ° 990/1000 (fille de Lambert 1er «Le Barbu», comte de Louvain, et de Gerberge de Lorraine)”
Per Racines et Histoire (Brabant): “Mahaut (Mathilde) de Louvain ° ~992/1000
ép. Eustache 1er «A l’oeil», comte de Boulogne (1042) + 1049 (fils de Baudouin II, comte de Boulogne et d’Adélaïs de Frise-Hollande ; ép. 2) Ermengarde de Montreuil) ”.16,14
; Per Genealogy.EU (Boulogne): “Cte Eustache I de Boulogne, +ca 1049; apparently son of Baudoin de Boulogne [by Ada of Ghent], son of Guy de Guisnes; m. Matilda of Louvaine
”.22
; Per Med Lands:
"MATHILDE de Louvain ([992/1000]-). The Genealogica comitum Buloniensium records that "Henricum seniorem de Bursella [=filius Ermengardis]" was father of "Lambertum comitem et Henricum fratrem eius et Mathildem sororem eorum", specifying that Mathilde married "comes Eustachius de Bolonia"[51], but this appears to be a confused representation of the situation. The primary source which confirms that Mathilde was the daughter of Comte Lambert [I] has not yet been identified but this is compatible with the chronology. Her birth date range estimated from the estimated date of her parents' marriage and the likely birth date of her eldest son in [1015/20]. This shows that it is chronologically impossible for Mathilde's father to have been the son of Ermengardis of Lower Lotharingia.
"m EUSTACHE Comte [de Boulogne], son of BAUDOUIN Comte [de Boulogne] & his wife Adelais of Holland (-[1049]). He succeeded in 1042 as Comte de Boulogne."
Med Lands cites:
[51] Genealogica comitum Buloniensium MGH SS IX, p. 301.18
; NB: The ancestry of Gui and the subsequent Comtes de Boulogne is unclear.
Med Lands points out that "...the continuity of the names Arnoul and Baudouin suggests that a close family connection is likely. If they are related, chronology suggests that there were two generations between Count Arnoul [I] and Count Eustache [I]." No parents are shown for Eustache I. Baudouin (I) is also shown as an individual without parents or children.
Genealogics shows no children for Arnoul /Arnulf I, but shows Eustache I the grandson of --Gui:
---->Gui, had a son
------>Baudouin II, had a son
-------->Eustache I.
If Gui were a sone of Arnoul/Arnulf I, it would satisfy Med Lands' remark concerning the two generation gap between Arnoul I and Eustache I. However, I can find no other support for this idea, so for the moment I have left Gui without parents and Arnoul I without children. GA Vaut.23,24,25,26 He was Comte de Boulogne between 1033 and 1047.21 He was Comte de Boulogne in 1042.9,5
Family | Mathilde/Matilda/Maud (?) de Louvain b. bt 992 - 1000 |
Children |
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Citations
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- [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 25 July 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Godefroy de Boulogne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00305443&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eustace II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00012361&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#EustacheIIB
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gerberge de Boulogne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00091991&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#Gerbergediedbefore1059
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lambert: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108318&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#Lambertdied1054A
Mathilde/Matilda/Maud (?) de Louvain1,2,3,4
F, #6604, b. between 992 and 1000
Father | Lambert I "The Bearded" (?) Count of Louvain5,2,6,7,8,9,10,11 b. c 950, d. 12 Sep 1015 |
Mother | Gerberga (?) de Lorraine5,2,6,8,7,9,12,11 b. c 975, d. 27 Jan 1018 |
Reference | GAV27 |
Last Edited | 19 Aug 2020 |
Mathilde/Matilda/Maud (?) de Louvain was born between 992 and 1000.9,7 She married Eustache I «A l’oeil» (?) Comte de Boulogne, son of Baudouin II (?) comte de Boulogne et de Thérouanne and Aleida (?) van Westfriesland.13,5,1,2,8,7,6,14,15,9
; Per Med Lands:
"EUSTACHE [I] de Boulogne (-[1049]). Comte de Boulogne. Malbodus, abbatus" records donations to the abbey of Saint-Amand by charter dated to [1061] including "villam…Lurcium" held "ex comite Balduino" by "Eustachius comes et quidam miles Rainerus"[443]. It is possible, but not certain, that this charter refers to Eustache [I]. "Karolus…comes Flandrie" confirmed property of the abbey of Marchiennes at Lille by charter dated 1125 which names "comes Balduinus proavus meus…coniuge sua comitissa Adela, et…baronibus suis Eustachio…comite Bolonie, Rogero comite de Sancto Paulo"[444], presumably referring to Baudouin V Count of Flanders and so dated to between 1035 and 1067, in which case the document could refer either to Eustache [I] or Eustache [II].
"m MATHILDE de Louvain, daughter of LAMBERT I "le Barbu" Comte de Louvain & his wife Gerberge de Lorraine [Carolingian] ([990/1000]-). The Genealogica comitum Buloniensium records that "Henricum seniorem de Bursella [=filius Ermengardis]" was father of "Lambertum comitem et Henricum fratrem eius et Mathildem sororem eorum", specifying that Mathilde married "comes Eustachius de Bolonia"[445], but this appears to be a confused representation of the situation. The primary source which confirms that Mathilde was the daughter of Comte Lambert [I] has not been identified but this is compatible with the chronology. Her birth date range is estimated from the estimated date of her parents' marriage and the likely birth date of her eldest son in [1015/20]. This shows that it is chronologically impossible for Mathilde's father to have been the son of Ermengardis of Lower Lotharingia."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (Boulogne): “Cte Eustache I de Boulogne, +ca 1049; apparently son of Baudoin de Boulogne [by Ada of Ghent], son of Guy de Guisnes; m. Matilda of Louvaine
”.16
; Per Racines et Histoire (Boulogne): “? Eustache 1er «A l’oeil» de Boulogne + 1049 comte de Boulogne (1042)
ép. Mathilde de Louvain ° 990/1000 (fille de Lambert 1er «Le Barbu», comte de Louvain, et de Gerberge de Lorraine)”
Per Racines et Histoire (Brabant): “Mahaut (Mathilde) de Louvain ° ~992/1000
ép. Eustache 1er «A l’oeil», comte de Boulogne (1042) + 1049 (fils de Baudouin II, comte de Boulogne et d’Adélaïs de Frise-Hollande ; ép. 2) Ermengarde de Montreuil) ”.8,7
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, Band II, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. Page 8.6 Mathilde/Matilda/Maud (?) de Louvain was also known as Maud/Mahaut (?) of Louvain.17 GAV-27.
; Per Med Lands:
"MATHILDE de Louvain ([992/1000]-). The Genealogica comitum Buloniensium records that "Henricum seniorem de Bursella [=filius Ermengardis]" was father of "Lambertum comitem et Henricum fratrem eius et Mathildem sororem eorum", specifying that Mathilde married "comes Eustachius de Bolonia"[51], but this appears to be a confused representation of the situation. The primary source which confirms that Mathilde was the daughter of Comte Lambert [I] has not yet been identified but this is compatible with the chronology. Her birth date range estimated from the estimated date of her parents' marriage and the likely birth date of her eldest son in [1015/20]. This shows that it is chronologically impossible for Mathilde's father to have been the son of Ermengardis of Lower Lotharingia.
"m EUSTACHE Comte [de Boulogne], son of BAUDOUIN Comte [de Boulogne] & his wife Adelais of Holland (-[1049]). He succeeded in 1042 as Comte de Boulogne."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"EUSTACHE [I] de Boulogne (-[1049]). Comte de Boulogne. Malbodus, abbatus" records donations to the abbey of Saint-Amand by charter dated to [1061] including "villam…Lurcium" held "ex comite Balduino" by "Eustachius comes et quidam miles Rainerus"[443]. It is possible, but not certain, that this charter refers to Eustache [I]. "Karolus…comes Flandrie" confirmed property of the abbey of Marchiennes at Lille by charter dated 1125 which names "comes Balduinus proavus meus…coniuge sua comitissa Adela, et…baronibus suis Eustachio…comite Bolonie, Rogero comite de Sancto Paulo"[444], presumably referring to Baudouin V Count of Flanders and so dated to between 1035 and 1067, in which case the document could refer either to Eustache [I] or Eustache [II].
"m MATHILDE de Louvain, daughter of LAMBERT I "le Barbu" Comte de Louvain & his wife Gerberge de Lorraine [Carolingian] ([990/1000]-). The Genealogica comitum Buloniensium records that "Henricum seniorem de Bursella [=filius Ermengardis]" was father of "Lambertum comitem et Henricum fratrem eius et Mathildem sororem eorum", specifying that Mathilde married "comes Eustachius de Bolonia"[445], but this appears to be a confused representation of the situation. The primary source which confirms that Mathilde was the daughter of Comte Lambert [I] has not been identified but this is compatible with the chronology. Her birth date range is estimated from the estimated date of her parents' marriage and the likely birth date of her eldest son in [1015/20]. This shows that it is chronologically impossible for Mathilde's father to have been the son of Ermengardis of Lower Lotharingia."
Med Lands cites:
[443] Duvivier (1898), pp. 37-8.
[444] Duvivier (1898), pp. 166-8.
[445] Genealogica comitum Buloniensium MGH SS IX, p. 301.15
[444] Duvivier (1898), pp. 166-8.
[445] Genealogica comitum Buloniensium MGH SS IX, p. 301.15
; Per Genealogy.EU (Boulogne): “Cte Eustache I de Boulogne, +ca 1049; apparently son of Baudoin de Boulogne [by Ada of Ghent], son of Guy de Guisnes; m. Matilda of Louvaine
”.16
; Per Racines et Histoire (Boulogne): “? Eustache 1er «A l’oeil» de Boulogne + 1049 comte de Boulogne (1042)
ép. Mathilde de Louvain ° 990/1000 (fille de Lambert 1er «Le Barbu», comte de Louvain, et de Gerberge de Lorraine)”
Per Racines et Histoire (Brabant): “Mahaut (Mathilde) de Louvain ° ~992/1000
ép. Eustache 1er «A l’oeil», comte de Boulogne (1042) + 1049 (fils de Baudouin II, comte de Boulogne et d’Adélaïs de Frise-Hollande ; ép. 2) Ermengarde de Montreuil) ”.8,7
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, Band II, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. Page 8.6 Mathilde/Matilda/Maud (?) de Louvain was also known as Maud/Mahaut (?) of Louvain.17 GAV-27.
; Per Med Lands:
"MATHILDE de Louvain ([992/1000]-). The Genealogica comitum Buloniensium records that "Henricum seniorem de Bursella [=filius Ermengardis]" was father of "Lambertum comitem et Henricum fratrem eius et Mathildem sororem eorum", specifying that Mathilde married "comes Eustachius de Bolonia"[51], but this appears to be a confused representation of the situation. The primary source which confirms that Mathilde was the daughter of Comte Lambert [I] has not yet been identified but this is compatible with the chronology. Her birth date range estimated from the estimated date of her parents' marriage and the likely birth date of her eldest son in [1015/20]. This shows that it is chronologically impossible for Mathilde's father to have been the son of Ermengardis of Lower Lotharingia.
"m EUSTACHE Comte [de Boulogne], son of BAUDOUIN Comte [de Boulogne] & his wife Adelais of Holland (-[1049]). He succeeded in 1042 as Comte de Boulogne."
Med Lands cites:
[51] Genealogica comitum Buloniensium MGH SS IX, p. 301.9
Family | Eustache I «A l’oeil» (?) Comte de Boulogne b. c 1000, d. c 1049 |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Boulogne page (Counts of Boulogne sur Mer): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/boulogne.html
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Brabant 1 page (Dukes of Brabant and Landgraves of Hesse): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brabant/brabant1.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boulogne.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Brabant.pdf, p. 3.
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Milford Haven Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Matilde de Louvain: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00092013&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Ducs de Brabant grafen im Maasgau, comtes de Louvain (Leuven), seigneurs de Perwez et Lovain(e) (Angleterre), p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Brabant.pdf
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison comtale de Boulogne, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boulogne.pdf
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRABANT,%20LOUVAIN.htm#MathildeLouvainMEustacheIBoulogne. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lambert I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020068&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRABANT,%20LOUVAIN.htm#LambertILouvaindied1015.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gerberga of Lower-Lorraine: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020069&tree=LEO
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 38, BOULOGNE 1. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eustace I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00092012&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#EustacheIdied1049A
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Counts of Boulogne sur Mer (Boulogne): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/boulogne.html
- [S1896] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 22 June 2005: "Extended Pedigree of Counts of Boulogne-sur-Mer"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/44eb7V2WEXc/m/5ixO37yx3noJ) to e-mail address, 22 June 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 22 June 2005."
- [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I41803
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Godefroy de Boulogne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00305443&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eustace II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00012361&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#EustacheIIB
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gerberge de Boulogne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00091991&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#Gerbergediedbefore1059
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lambert: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108318&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#Lambertdied1054A
Baudouin II (?) comte de Boulogne et de Thérouanne1,2,3
M, #6605, b. 950, d. 1033
Father | Gui/Guy (?) de Boulogne1,2,4,5 b. 924 |
Reference | GAV28 |
Last Edited | 28 Jul 2020 |
Baudouin II (?) comte de Boulogne et de Thérouanne was born in 950.6 He married Aleida (?) van Westfriesland, daughter of Arnulf I 'Gandensis' (?) Count of Holland and West Friesland and Liutgard (?) de Luxembourg,
;
Her 1st husband.7,4,8,3,9,10
Baudouin II (?) comte de Boulogne et de Thérouanne died in 1033; Racines et Histoire says d. 1032.8,2,3,11
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales Edinburgh, 1977., Gerald Paget, Reference: 59.
2. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 105.10 GAV-28 EDV-26 GKJ-27.
; Per Med Lands:
"BAUDOUIN (-after 1 Apr 988). "…Theoderico comite, Arnulfo comite, Artoldo comite, Baldwino comite, item Arnulfo comite…" signed the charter dated 1 Apr 988 under which "Baldwinus marchysus cum matre sua Susanna" donated "villam Aflingehem…jacentem in pago Tornacinse" to Saint-Pierre de Gand, after the death of "Arnulfi marchysi"[706]. same person as…? --- de Boulogne (-killed in battle [1033]). Comte de Boulogne. The Chronique de Saint Riquier records that "Angelran" killed "le comte de Boulogne" in battle and married his widow "Adelvie…qui était de l'origine la plus illustre", after which he adopted the title comte[707].
"m as her first husband, ALEIDA, daughter of [ARNULF Count of Holland & his wife Liutgard de Luxembourg]. The Chronique de Saint Riquier records that "Angelran" killed "le comte de Boulogne" in battle and married his widow "Adelvie…qui était de l'origine la plus illustre", after which he adopted the title comte[708]. She is named as the possible daughter of Arnulf, and her two marriages are shown, in Europäische Stammtafeln[709] but the primary source on which this is based has not been identified. She married secondly [as his second wife,] Enguerrand Avoué de Saint-Riquier."
Med Lands cites:
; From Smith [2006]: "per Alden: BAUDOUIN de Boulogne (-1033). m as her first husband, ALEIDA [van Westfriesland], daughter of [ARNULF Graf van Westfriesland [Holland] & his wife Liutgard de Luxembourg]. She is named as the possible daughter of Arnulf, and her two marriages shown, in Europäische Stammtafeln[78] but the basis for this speculation is not known. She married secondly Enguerrand Avoué de Saint-Riquier."4
Baudouin II (?) comte de Boulogne et de Thérouanne was also known as Baldwin II (?) Count of Boulogne.12
; Per Racines et Histoire: "? Baudouin de Boulogne +X 1032/33 (par Angelran, Enguerrand) comte de Boulogne et de Thérouanne
ép. Aleida (Adelvie) van WestFriesland (dite aussi Adélaïde ou Alaïs de Gand, fille d’Arnulf, graf van WestFriesland en Hollande, et de Liutgard de Luxembourg ; ép. 2) Enguerrand, Avoué de Saint-Riquier)"
[See Note Per Med Lands].13
; Per Genealogy.EU: "[her parentage is not conclusively proven] Aleida; 1m: Cte Baudoin de Boulogne; 2m: Cte Enguerrand I de Ponthieu."7
; NB: The ancestry of Gui and the subsequent Comtes de Boulogne is unclear.
Med Lands points out that "...the continuity of the names Arnoul and Baudouin suggests that a close family connection is likely. If they are related, chronology suggests that there were two generations between Count Arnoul [I] and Count Eustache [I]." No parents are shown for Eustache I. Baudouin (I) is also shown as an individual without parents or children.
Genealogics shows no children for Arnoul /Arnulf I, but shows Eustache I the grandson of --Gui:
---->Gui, had a son
------>Baudouin II, had a son
-------->Eustache I.
If Gui were a sone of Arnoul/Arnulf I, it would satisfy Med Lands' remark concerning the two generation gap between Arnoul I and Eustache I. However, I can find no other support for this idea, so for the moment I have left Gui without parents and Arnoul I without children. GA Vaut.5,14,15,16
;
Her 1st husband.7,4,8,3,9,10
Baudouin II (?) comte de Boulogne et de Thérouanne died in 1033; Racines et Histoire says d. 1032.8,2,3,11
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales Edinburgh, 1977., Gerald Paget, Reference: 59.
2. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 105.10 GAV-28 EDV-26 GKJ-27.
; Per Med Lands:
"BAUDOUIN (-after 1 Apr 988). "…Theoderico comite, Arnulfo comite, Artoldo comite, Baldwino comite, item Arnulfo comite…" signed the charter dated 1 Apr 988 under which "Baldwinus marchysus cum matre sua Susanna" donated "villam Aflingehem…jacentem in pago Tornacinse" to Saint-Pierre de Gand, after the death of "Arnulfi marchysi"[706]. same person as…? --- de Boulogne (-killed in battle [1033]). Comte de Boulogne. The Chronique de Saint Riquier records that "Angelran" killed "le comte de Boulogne" in battle and married his widow "Adelvie…qui était de l'origine la plus illustre", after which he adopted the title comte[707].
"m as her first husband, ALEIDA, daughter of [ARNULF Count of Holland & his wife Liutgard de Luxembourg]. The Chronique de Saint Riquier records that "Angelran" killed "le comte de Boulogne" in battle and married his widow "Adelvie…qui était de l'origine la plus illustre", after which he adopted the title comte[708]. She is named as the possible daughter of Arnulf, and her two marriages are shown, in Europäische Stammtafeln[709] but the primary source on which this is based has not been identified. She married secondly [as his second wife,] Enguerrand Avoué de Saint-Riquier."
Med Lands cites:
[706] Liber traditionum sancti Petri Blandiniensis, 96, p. 92.
[707] Chronique de l'abbaye de Saint-Riquier, IV.XII, p. 218.
[708] Chronique de l'abbaye de Saint-Riquier, IV.XII, p. 218.
[709] ES II 2.11
[707] Chronique de l'abbaye de Saint-Riquier, IV.XII, p. 218.
[708] Chronique de l'abbaye de Saint-Riquier, IV.XII, p. 218.
[709] ES II 2.11
; From Smith [2006]: "per Alden: BAUDOUIN de Boulogne (-1033). m as her first husband, ALEIDA [van Westfriesland], daughter of [ARNULF Graf van Westfriesland [Holland] & his wife Liutgard de Luxembourg]. She is named as the possible daughter of Arnulf, and her two marriages shown, in Europäische Stammtafeln[78] but the basis for this speculation is not known. She married secondly Enguerrand Avoué de Saint-Riquier."4
Baudouin II (?) comte de Boulogne et de Thérouanne was also known as Baldwin II (?) Count of Boulogne.12
; Per Racines et Histoire: "? Baudouin de Boulogne +X 1032/33 (par Angelran, Enguerrand) comte de Boulogne et de Thérouanne
ép. Aleida (Adelvie) van WestFriesland (dite aussi Adélaïde ou Alaïs de Gand, fille d’Arnulf, graf van WestFriesland en Hollande, et de Liutgard de Luxembourg ; ép. 2) Enguerrand, Avoué de Saint-Riquier)"
[See Note Per Med Lands].13
; Per Genealogy.EU: "[her parentage is not conclusively proven] Aleida; 1m: Cte Baudoin de Boulogne; 2m: Cte Enguerrand I de Ponthieu."7
; NB: The ancestry of Gui and the subsequent Comtes de Boulogne is unclear.
Med Lands points out that "...the continuity of the names Arnoul and Baudouin suggests that a close family connection is likely. If they are related, chronology suggests that there were two generations between Count Arnoul [I] and Count Eustache [I]." No parents are shown for Eustache I. Baudouin (I) is also shown as an individual without parents or children.
Genealogics shows no children for Arnoul /Arnulf I, but shows Eustache I the grandson of --Gui:
---->Gui, had a son
------>Baudouin II, had a son
-------->Eustache I.
If Gui were a sone of Arnoul/Arnulf I, it would satisfy Med Lands' remark concerning the two generation gap between Arnoul I and Eustache I. However, I can find no other support for this idea, so for the moment I have left Gui without parents and Arnoul I without children. GA Vaut.5,14,15,16
Family | Aleida (?) van Westfriesland |
Child |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Boulogne page (Counts of Boulogne sur Mer): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/boulogne.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Baudouin II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00092010&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boulogne.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2114] Doug Smith, "Smith email 17 Dec 2006 "Early Comtes de Boulogne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 17 Dec 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Smith email 17 Dec 2006."
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gui: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00092009&tree=LEO
- [S640] Inc. Brøderbund Software, World Family Tree Vol. L1, Ed. 1, Family #0021 (n.p.: Release date: October 30, 1998, unknown publish date).
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Holland 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/holland/holland1.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boubers1.pdf, p. 4.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HOLLAND.htm#AleidaM2EnguerrandIPonthieu. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Baudouin II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00092010&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#Baudouindied1033
- [S1896] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 22 June 2005: "Extended Pedigree of Counts of Boulogne-sur-Mer"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/44eb7V2WEXc/m/5ixO37yx3noJ) to e-mail address, 22 June 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 22 June 2005."
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison comtale de Boulogne, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boulogne.pdf
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#_Toc43878011
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Arnulf: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00331104&tree=LEO
- [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 25 July 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Boulogne page (Counts of Boulogne sur Mer): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/boulogne.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Brabant.pdf, p. 4.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eustace I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00092012&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#EustacheIdied1049A
Aleida (?) van Westfriesland1,2,3
F, #6606
Father | Arnulf I 'Gandensis' (?) Count of Holland and West Friesland4,1,3,5,6 b. c 950, d. 18 Sep 993 |
Mother | Liutgard (?) de Luxembourg4,1,3,5,6 b. c 962, d. 14 May 1005 |
Reference | GAV28 EDV28 |
Last Edited | 28 Jul 2020 |
Aleida (?) van Westfriesland married Baudouin II (?) comte de Boulogne et de Thérouanne, son of Gui/Guy (?) de Boulogne,
;
Her 1st husband.4,1,7,8,5,9 Aleida (?) van Westfriesland married Enguerrand I "Isembart" (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil, son of Hugues I de Montreuil seigneur d’Abbeville, avoué de St-Riquier and Gisela/Gisele (?) de France, Dame d'Abeville, after 1033
;
His 2nd wife; her 2nd husband.10,4,1,11,12,13,14,15,5
Aleida (?) van Westfriesland was also known as Adélaïs (?) de Hollande.16 Aleida (?) van Westfriesland was also known as Adélaïde de Gand.11 GAV-28 EDV-28.
; Per Med Lands:
"[ALEIDA . She is named as the possible daughter of Arnulf, and her two marriages are shown, in Europäische Stammtafeln[290] but the primary source on which this is based has not yet been identified. The Chronique de Saint Riquier records that "Angelran" killed "le comte de Boulogne" in battle and married his widow "Adelvie…qui était de l'origine la plus illustre", after which he adopted the title comte[291].
"m firstly BAUDOUIN de Boulogne, son of GUY de Boulogne & his wife --- (-1033).
"m secondly [as his second wife,] ENGUERRAND Avoué de Saint-Riquier, son of HUGUES Avoué de Saint-Riquier [Ponthieu] & his wife Gisèle de France [Capet] (-[1045]).]"
Med Lands cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire (Ponthieu and de Bouber pages): "Enguerrand (Angelran) 1er Isembart ° ~995 + 09/12/1045 (inh. à Saint-Riquier) Avoué de Saint-Riquier puis comte de Ponthieu (1021), Montreuil et Boulogne (1032) (il défait Gilbert, comte de Brionne qui tente d’envahir le Vimeu)
ép. 1) ?
ép. 2) après 1033 Aleida de Gand (Adélaïde, Adelvie, alias van Westfriesland, de Hollande) ° ~980 (fille naturelle d’Arnulf, comte de Hollande, et de Liutgard de Luxembourg ; veuve de Baudouin II, comte de Boulogne + 1032)"
[See Note Per Med Lands].11
; Per Racines et Histoire: "? Baudouin de Boulogne +X 1032/33 (par Angelran, Enguerrand) comte de Boulogne et de Thérouanne
ép. Aleida (Adelvie) van WestFriesland (dite aussi Adélaïde ou Alaïs de Gand, fille d’Arnulf, graf van WestFriesland en Hollande, et de Liutgard de Luxembourg ; ép. 2) Enguerrand, Avoué de Saint-Riquier)"
[See Note Per Med Lands].3
; Per Genealogy.EU: "[her parentage is not conclusively proven] Aleida; 1m: Cte Baudoin de Boulogne; 2m: Cte Enguerrand I de Ponthieu."4
;
Her 1st husband.4,1,7,8,5,9 Aleida (?) van Westfriesland married Enguerrand I "Isembart" (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil, son of Hugues I de Montreuil seigneur d’Abbeville, avoué de St-Riquier and Gisela/Gisele (?) de France, Dame d'Abeville, after 1033
;
His 2nd wife; her 2nd husband.10,4,1,11,12,13,14,15,5
Aleida (?) van Westfriesland was also known as Adélaïs (?) de Hollande.16 Aleida (?) van Westfriesland was also known as Adélaïde de Gand.11 GAV-28 EDV-28.
; Per Med Lands:
"[ALEIDA . She is named as the possible daughter of Arnulf, and her two marriages are shown, in Europäische Stammtafeln[290] but the primary source on which this is based has not yet been identified. The Chronique de Saint Riquier records that "Angelran" killed "le comte de Boulogne" in battle and married his widow "Adelvie…qui était de l'origine la plus illustre", after which he adopted the title comte[291].
"m firstly BAUDOUIN de Boulogne, son of GUY de Boulogne & his wife --- (-1033).
"m secondly [as his second wife,] ENGUERRAND Avoué de Saint-Riquier, son of HUGUES Avoué de Saint-Riquier [Ponthieu] & his wife Gisèle de France [Capet] (-[1045]).]"
Med Lands cites:
[290] ES II 2.
[291] Prarond, E. (ed.) (1899) Chronicon Centulense ou Chronique de l'abbaye de Saint-Riquier, traduction d'Hariulfe par le Marquis Le Ver (Abbeville) ("Chronique de l'abbaye de Saint-Riquier"), IV.XII, p. 218.5
Aleida (?) van Westfriesland was also known as Adele/Adelaide (?) of Ghent.17 Aleida (?) van Westfriesland was also known as Ada (?) of Ghent.18 Aleida (?) van Westfriesland was also known as Ada (?) de Gant.19 Aleida (?) van Westfriesland was also known as Adeline/Adeliva (?)20,4 [291] Prarond, E. (ed.) (1899) Chronicon Centulense ou Chronique de l'abbaye de Saint-Riquier, traduction d'Hariulfe par le Marquis Le Ver (Abbeville) ("Chronique de l'abbaye de Saint-Riquier"), IV.XII, p. 218.5
; Per Racines et Histoire (Ponthieu and de Bouber pages): "Enguerrand (Angelran) 1er Isembart ° ~995 + 09/12/1045 (inh. à Saint-Riquier) Avoué de Saint-Riquier puis comte de Ponthieu (1021), Montreuil et Boulogne (1032) (il défait Gilbert, comte de Brionne qui tente d’envahir le Vimeu)
ép. 1) ?
ép. 2) après 1033 Aleida de Gand (Adélaïde, Adelvie, alias van Westfriesland, de Hollande) ° ~980 (fille naturelle d’Arnulf, comte de Hollande, et de Liutgard de Luxembourg ; veuve de Baudouin II, comte de Boulogne + 1032)"
[See Note Per Med Lands].11
; Per Racines et Histoire: "? Baudouin de Boulogne +X 1032/33 (par Angelran, Enguerrand) comte de Boulogne et de Thérouanne
ép. Aleida (Adelvie) van WestFriesland (dite aussi Adélaïde ou Alaïs de Gand, fille d’Arnulf, graf van WestFriesland en Hollande, et de Liutgard de Luxembourg ; ép. 2) Enguerrand, Avoué de Saint-Riquier)"
[See Note Per Med Lands].3
; Per Genealogy.EU: "[her parentage is not conclusively proven] Aleida; 1m: Cte Baudoin de Boulogne; 2m: Cte Enguerrand I de Ponthieu."4
Family 1 | Baudouin II (?) comte de Boulogne et de Thérouanne b. 950, d. 1033 |
Child |
Family 2 | Enguerrand I "Isembart" (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil b. bt 990 - 995, d. 9 Dec 1045 |
Citations
- [S2114] Doug Smith, "Smith email 17 Dec 2006 "Early Comtes de Boulogne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 17 Dec 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Smith email 17 Dec 2006."
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs puis comtes d’ Aumale & Aumale (Picardie), p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Aumale.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison comtale de Boulogne, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boulogne.pdf
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Holland 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/holland/holland1.html
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HOLLAND.htm#AleidaM2EnguerrandIPonthieu. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HOLLAND.htm#Arnulfdied993
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boubers1.pdf, p. 4.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boulogne.pdf, p. 3.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Baudouin II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00092010&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Aumale.pdf, p. 2.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Ponthieu, & Montreuil, Saint-Pol, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Ponthieu.pdf
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille & Seigneurs de BOUBERS, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boubers1.pdf
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Enguerrand I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177494&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adeline|Adeliva: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00092011&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfraamp.htm#Enguerranddied1045
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Brabant.pdf, p. 4.
- [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I3006
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Boulogne page (Counts of Boulogne sur Mer): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/boulogne.html
- [S1896] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 22 June 2005: "Extended Pedigree of Counts of Boulogne-sur-Mer"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/44eb7V2WEXc/m/5ixO37yx3noJ) to e-mail address, 22 June 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 22 June 2005."
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adeline/Adeliva: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00092011&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eustace I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00092012&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#EustacheIdied1049A
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Ducs de Brabant grafen im Maasgau, comtes de Louvain (Leuven), seigneurs de Perwez et Lovain(e) (Angleterre), p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Brabant.pdf
Gui/Guy (?) de Boulogne1
M, #6607, b. 924
Reference | GAV29 EDV29 |
Last Edited | 25 Jul 2020 |
Gui/Guy (?) de Boulogne was born in 924.2
GAV-29 EDV-29.
; NB: The ancestry of Gui and the subsequent Comtes de Boulogne is unclear.
Med Lands points out that "...the continuity of the names Arnoul and Baudouin suggests that a close family connection is likely. If they are related, chronology suggests that there were two generations between Count Arnoul [I] and Count Eustache [I]." No parents are shown for Eustache I. Baudouin (I) is also shown as an individual without parents or children.
Genealogics shows no children for Arnoul /Arnulf I, but shows Eustache I the grandson of --Gui:
---->Gui, had a son
------>Baudouin II, had a son
-------->Eustache I.
If Gui were a sone of Arnoul/Arnulf I, it would satisfy Med Lands' remark concerning the two generation gap between Arnoul I and Eustache I. However, I can find no other support for this idea, so for the moment I have left Gui without parents and Arnoul I without children. GA Vaut.1,3,4,5
Reference: Genealogics cites:
GAV-29 EDV-29.
; NB: The ancestry of Gui and the subsequent Comtes de Boulogne is unclear.
Med Lands points out that "...the continuity of the names Arnoul and Baudouin suggests that a close family connection is likely. If they are related, chronology suggests that there were two generations between Count Arnoul [I] and Count Eustache [I]." No parents are shown for Eustache I. Baudouin (I) is also shown as an individual without parents or children.
Genealogics shows no children for Arnoul /Arnulf I, but shows Eustache I the grandson of --Gui:
---->Gui, had a son
------>Baudouin II, had a son
-------->Eustache I.
If Gui were a sone of Arnoul/Arnulf I, it would satisfy Med Lands' remark concerning the two generation gap between Arnoul I and Eustache I. However, I can find no other support for this idea, so for the moment I have left Gui without parents and Arnoul I without children. GA Vaut.1,3,4,5
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales Edinburgh, 1977., Gerald Paget, Reference: 59.
2. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 105.1
2. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 105.1
Family | |
Child |
|
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gui: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00092009&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S640] Inc. Brøderbund Software, World Family Tree Vol. L1, Ed. 1, Family #0021 (n.p.: Release date: October 30, 1998, unknown publish date).
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#_Toc43878011. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Arnulf: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00331104&tree=LEO
- [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 25 July 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Boulogne page (Counts of Boulogne sur Mer): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/boulogne.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Baudouin II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00092010&tree=LEO
- [S2114] Doug Smith, "Smith email 17 Dec 2006 "Early Comtes de Boulogne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 17 Dec 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Smith email 17 Dec 2006."
Lambert (?) de Boulogne-su-Mer, Cte de Lens (Artois)1,2,3,4
M, #6608, b. circa 1025, d. 1054
Father | Eustache I «A l’oeil» (?) Comte de Boulogne2,3,5,6,7,8,9 b. c 1000, d. c 1049 |
Mother | Mathilde/Matilda/Maud (?) de Louvain2,3,10,5,6,9,8 b. bt 992 - 1000 |
Reference | GAV26 EDV25 |
Last Edited | 28 Jul 2020 |
Lambert (?) de Boulogne-su-Mer, Cte de Lens (Artois) was born circa 1025.5 He married Adélaïde (?) de Normandie, comtesse d'Aumale, daughter of Robert I "The Magnificent" (?) Duke of Normandy and HerleveArlette (?) de Falaise, between 1053 and 1054
;
Her 2nd husband.11,1,2,3,12,13,4,14,15,16,5,17
Lambert (?) de Boulogne-su-Mer, Cte de Lens (Artois) died in 1054 at Battle of Lille, Phalempin, Lille, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France; killed at Phalempin.11,2,18,3,4,19,5
; Per Genealogy.EU: "Adelaide, *ca 1030, +1081/84; 1m: before 1052 Enguerrand II de Ponthieu/de Montreuil (+1053); 2m: 1053/54 Lambert de Boulogne-sur-Mer, Cte de Lens (+1054); 3m: ca 1060 Eudes III de Troyes, Cte de Champagne (+after 1096.)1"
; Per Racines et Histoire: "Adélaïde de Normandie ° ~1030 + 1081/84
ép. 1) avant 1052 Enguerrand II de Ponthieu comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil + 1053
ép. 2) 1053/54 Lambert de Boulogne comte de Lens + 1054 (postérité Valognes)
ép. 3) ~1060 Eudes III de Troyes + après 1096 (1127 ?) comte de Troyes-Champagne et d’Aumale."16
Reference: Genealogics cites: The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald. I 169.5
; Per Genealogics:
"Lambert was the son of Eustace I, comte de Boulogne, and Mathilde de Louvain. About 1053 he married Adela of Normandy, comtesse d'Aumale, widow of Enguerrand II, comte de Montreuil, sire d'Aumale, and daughter of Robert 'the Devil', duke of Normandy, and sister of Duke William I of Normandy, the future William the Conqueror.
"In 1053, when Guillaume, comte d'Arquens, revolted against his nephew Duke William I, the Flemish nobility became involved because of kinship: Baudouin V, Graaf van Vlaanderen, father-in-law of Duke William, supported him, while Enguerrand II, comte de Montreuil, sire d'Aumale, who was related to both sides, and Lambert's brother Eustace II of Boulogne opted for the insurgents. Lambert followed his liege lord Baudouin V, to side with the duke.
"The rebellion soon collapsed, Enguerrand was killed in October 1053 and Guillaume, comte d'Arquens, fled to Boulogne. As a reward for his loyalty, Lambert was married to Enguerrand's widow, Adela of Normandy, Duke William's sister, in whose rights he became count of Aumale.
"Lambert remained in the service of Baudouin V, Graaf van Vlaanderen, and in 1054 he took part in the Battle of Lille against Emperor Heinrich III, in which he was mortally wounded near Phalampin. Adela kept Aumale, while Lens reverted to Lambert's brother Eustace II. Lambert and Adela's daughter Judith, who was born either shortly before or shortly after his death, in 1070 married Waltheof, earl of Northumberland, Huntingdon and Northampton, with whom she had progeny."5 GAV-26 EDV-25 GKJ-26.
; Per Wikipédia (Fr.):
"Lambert II de Lens († 1054), comte de Lens, est un noble boulonnais, second fils d'Eustache Ier, comte de Boulogne et de Mahaut de Louvain.
"En 1053, des troubles agitèrent le duché de Normandie, en effet, Guillaume, comte d'Arques se révolta contre son neveu, le duc de Normandie, futur Guillaume le Conquérant. En raison des alliances familiales, la noblesse flamande se retrouva impliquée dans ce conflit : Baudouin V de Flandre, beau-père du duc de Normandie, se rangea de son côté, tandis qu'Enguerrand II de Ponthieu, beau-frère des deux Guillaume1, choisit le camp du comte d'Arques, suivi par son cousin Eustache II, le frère de Lambert. Lambert, lui resta fidèle à son suzerain, le comte de Flandre.
"La révolte, tourna court, Enguerrand de Ponthieu fut tué en octobre 1053 à Saint-Aubin-sur-Scie et Guillaume d'Arques, assiégé, parvint à s'enfuir et à se réfugier à Boulogne.
"En récompense de sa fidélité, Lambert fut marié à Adélaïde de Normandie, veuve d'Enguerrand et demi-sœur du duc Guillaume, et devint ainsi comte d'Aumale.
"Lambert resta cependant au service de Baudouin V, et participa pour le compte de ce dernier à une bataille livrée à Lille contre l'empereur Henri III. Il fut tué au cours de l'affrontement en juillet ou août 10542. Adélaïde conserva Aumale, et Lens revint au frère aîné de Lambert, Eustache II.
Famille et descendance
"De son mariage avec Adélaïde de Normandie, il eut :
notes et références
1. Enguerrand avait épousé Adélaïde, demie-sœur du Conquérant, alors que sa propre sœur était l'épouse du comte d'Arques
2. David Bates, Guillaume le Conquérant, traduction française Flammarion 2018 p. 165
Sources
** Pierre Bauduin, La Première Normandie (xe-xie siècles), Caen, Presses Universitaires de Caen, 2004, 474 p. [détail des éditions] (ISBN 2-84133-145-8.)20"
Reference: Weis [1992:130] 148-22.11
; Per Med Lands:
"LAMBERT de Boulogne (-killed in battle Phalampin 1054). The Genealogica comitum Buloniensium records that "Eustachium et Lantbertum" were sons of "comes Eustachius de Bolonia" and his wife Mathilde[1526]. Comte de Lens 1047. After his death, the county of Lens reverted to his older brother Eustache [II][1527].
"m ([1053/54]) as her second husband, ADELAIS de Normandie, widow of ENGUERRAND [II] Comte de Montreuil Seigneur d’Aumâle, illegitimate daughter of ROBERT II Duke of Normandy & his mistress --- (-[1082/84]). Robert de Torigny names "Aeliz" as the daughter of Duke Robert II "de alia concubina" from Herleve[1528]. The foundation charter of Saint-Martin d’Auchy names “Engueranni consulis qui filius fuit Berte supradicti Guerinfridi filie et Adelidis comitisse uxoris sue sororis…Willelmi Regis Anglorum”[1529]. She retained the title Comtesse d'Aumâle after her first marriage. Her second marriage is deduced from the foundation charter of Saint-Martin d’Auchy which names “Engueranni consulis qui filius fuit Berte supradicti Guerinfridi filie et Adelidis comitisse uxoris sue sororis…Willelmi Regis Anglorum” and “Judita comitissa domine supradicte filia”[1530]. She married thirdly ([1060]) Eudes III Comte de Troyes [Blois]. Orderic Vitalis records that King William I granted "comitatum Hildernessæ" to "Odoni...Campaniensi nepoti Theobaldi comitis" who had married "sororem...regis filiam...Rodberti ducis"[1531]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Wikipedia:
"Lambert II, Count of Lens (died 1054) was a French nobleman. He was likely born circa 1030. This would put his death age at about 24 years old.
"He was the son of Eustace I, Count of Bologne and of Maud of Louvain (daughter of Lambert I of Louvain).[1] c.?1053 he married Adelaide of Normandy, Countess of Aumale, daughter of Robert I, Duke of Normandy and sister of William the Conqueror.[2] Adelaide was the widow of Enguerrand II, Count of Ponthieu who died in 1053.[3] c.?1054 Lambert and Adelaide had a daughter, Judith of Lens, although Lambert would scarcely have seen her; he was killed at the battle of Lille in 1054.[4] Lambert was supporting Baldwin V, Count of Flanders against Henry III, Holy Roman Emperor when he was killed in battle.[5] His widow, Adelaide, married thirdly, Odo, Count of Champagne.[6]
References
1. Detlev Schwennicke, Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge, Band III Teilband 4 (Marburg, Germany: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1989), Tafel 621
2. George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant Extinct or Dormant, Vol. I, ed. Vicary Gibbs (London: The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., 1910), pp. 351-2
3. Detlev Schwennicke, Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge, Band III Teilband 4 (Marburg, Germany: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1989), Tafel 653
4. John Carl Andressohn, The ancestry and life of Godfrey of Bouillon (Ayer Publishing, 1972), p. 20
53. James Robinson Planché, The Conqueror and his companions, Vol. 1 (London: Tinsley Brothers, 1874), p. 122
6. George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant Extinct or Dormant, Vol. I, ed. Vicary Gibbs (London: The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., 1910), pp. 352."21
; Per Racines et Histoire (Boulogne): "Lambert de Boulogne +X 1054 (Phalempin) comte de Lens (1047) (le comté de Lens à sa mort retourne à son frère aîné Eustache)
ép. 1053/54 Adelais (Aeliz) de Normandie, douairière d’Aumâle + ~1082/84 (fille illégitime du duc Robert II «Le Diable» ; veuve d’Enguerrand II, comte de Ponthieu, seigneur d’Aumale) ; ép. 3) 1060 Eudes III, comte de Troyes-Blois.)8"
; Per Genealogy.EU: "A3. Lambert, Cte de Lens, +k.a.Phalampin 1054; m.1053/54 Adelaide of Normandy (*ca 1030, +1081/84.)19" He was comte de Lens in 1047.8
;
Her 2nd husband.11,1,2,3,12,13,4,14,15,16,5,17
Lambert (?) de Boulogne-su-Mer, Cte de Lens (Artois) died in 1054 at Battle of Lille, Phalempin, Lille, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France; killed at Phalempin.11,2,18,3,4,19,5
; Per Genealogy.EU: "Adelaide, *ca 1030, +1081/84; 1m: before 1052 Enguerrand II de Ponthieu/de Montreuil (+1053); 2m: 1053/54 Lambert de Boulogne-sur-Mer, Cte de Lens (+1054); 3m: ca 1060 Eudes III de Troyes, Cte de Champagne (+after 1096.)1"
; Per Racines et Histoire: "Adélaïde de Normandie ° ~1030 + 1081/84
ép. 1) avant 1052 Enguerrand II de Ponthieu comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil + 1053
ép. 2) 1053/54 Lambert de Boulogne comte de Lens + 1054 (postérité Valognes)
ép. 3) ~1060 Eudes III de Troyes + après 1096 (1127 ?) comte de Troyes-Champagne et d’Aumale."16
Reference: Genealogics cites: The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald. I 169.5
; Per Genealogics:
"Lambert was the son of Eustace I, comte de Boulogne, and Mathilde de Louvain. About 1053 he married Adela of Normandy, comtesse d'Aumale, widow of Enguerrand II, comte de Montreuil, sire d'Aumale, and daughter of Robert 'the Devil', duke of Normandy, and sister of Duke William I of Normandy, the future William the Conqueror.
"In 1053, when Guillaume, comte d'Arquens, revolted against his nephew Duke William I, the Flemish nobility became involved because of kinship: Baudouin V, Graaf van Vlaanderen, father-in-law of Duke William, supported him, while Enguerrand II, comte de Montreuil, sire d'Aumale, who was related to both sides, and Lambert's brother Eustace II of Boulogne opted for the insurgents. Lambert followed his liege lord Baudouin V, to side with the duke.
"The rebellion soon collapsed, Enguerrand was killed in October 1053 and Guillaume, comte d'Arquens, fled to Boulogne. As a reward for his loyalty, Lambert was married to Enguerrand's widow, Adela of Normandy, Duke William's sister, in whose rights he became count of Aumale.
"Lambert remained in the service of Baudouin V, Graaf van Vlaanderen, and in 1054 he took part in the Battle of Lille against Emperor Heinrich III, in which he was mortally wounded near Phalampin. Adela kept Aumale, while Lens reverted to Lambert's brother Eustace II. Lambert and Adela's daughter Judith, who was born either shortly before or shortly after his death, in 1070 married Waltheof, earl of Northumberland, Huntingdon and Northampton, with whom she had progeny."5 GAV-26 EDV-25 GKJ-26.
; Per Wikipédia (Fr.):
"Lambert II de Lens († 1054), comte de Lens, est un noble boulonnais, second fils d'Eustache Ier, comte de Boulogne et de Mahaut de Louvain.
"En 1053, des troubles agitèrent le duché de Normandie, en effet, Guillaume, comte d'Arques se révolta contre son neveu, le duc de Normandie, futur Guillaume le Conquérant. En raison des alliances familiales, la noblesse flamande se retrouva impliquée dans ce conflit : Baudouin V de Flandre, beau-père du duc de Normandie, se rangea de son côté, tandis qu'Enguerrand II de Ponthieu, beau-frère des deux Guillaume1, choisit le camp du comte d'Arques, suivi par son cousin Eustache II, le frère de Lambert. Lambert, lui resta fidèle à son suzerain, le comte de Flandre.
"La révolte, tourna court, Enguerrand de Ponthieu fut tué en octobre 1053 à Saint-Aubin-sur-Scie et Guillaume d'Arques, assiégé, parvint à s'enfuir et à se réfugier à Boulogne.
"En récompense de sa fidélité, Lambert fut marié à Adélaïde de Normandie, veuve d'Enguerrand et demi-sœur du duc Guillaume, et devint ainsi comte d'Aumale.
"Lambert resta cependant au service de Baudouin V, et participa pour le compte de ce dernier à une bataille livrée à Lille contre l'empereur Henri III. Il fut tué au cours de l'affrontement en juillet ou août 10542. Adélaïde conserva Aumale, et Lens revint au frère aîné de Lambert, Eustache II.
Famille et descendance
"De son mariage avec Adélaïde de Normandie, il eut :
** Judith, mariée en 1070 à Waltheof, comte d'Huntingdon.
notes et références
1. Enguerrand avait épousé Adélaïde, demie-sœur du Conquérant, alors que sa propre sœur était l'épouse du comte d'Arques
2. David Bates, Guillaume le Conquérant, traduction française Flammarion 2018 p. 165
Sources
** Pierre Bauduin, La Première Normandie (xe-xie siècles), Caen, Presses Universitaires de Caen, 2004, 474 p. [détail des éditions] (ISBN 2-84133-145-8.)20"
Reference: Weis [1992:130] 148-22.11
; Per Med Lands:
"LAMBERT de Boulogne (-killed in battle Phalampin 1054). The Genealogica comitum Buloniensium records that "Eustachium et Lantbertum" were sons of "comes Eustachius de Bolonia" and his wife Mathilde[1526]. Comte de Lens 1047. After his death, the county of Lens reverted to his older brother Eustache [II][1527].
"m ([1053/54]) as her second husband, ADELAIS de Normandie, widow of ENGUERRAND [II] Comte de Montreuil Seigneur d’Aumâle, illegitimate daughter of ROBERT II Duke of Normandy & his mistress --- (-[1082/84]). Robert de Torigny names "Aeliz" as the daughter of Duke Robert II "de alia concubina" from Herleve[1528]. The foundation charter of Saint-Martin d’Auchy names “Engueranni consulis qui filius fuit Berte supradicti Guerinfridi filie et Adelidis comitisse uxoris sue sororis…Willelmi Regis Anglorum”[1529]. She retained the title Comtesse d'Aumâle after her first marriage. Her second marriage is deduced from the foundation charter of Saint-Martin d’Auchy which names “Engueranni consulis qui filius fuit Berte supradicti Guerinfridi filie et Adelidis comitisse uxoris sue sororis…Willelmi Regis Anglorum” and “Judita comitissa domine supradicte filia”[1530]. She married thirdly ([1060]) Eudes III Comte de Troyes [Blois]. Orderic Vitalis records that King William I granted "comitatum Hildernessæ" to "Odoni...Campaniensi nepoti Theobaldi comitis" who had married "sororem...regis filiam...Rodberti ducis"[1531]."
Med Lands cites:
[1526] Genealogica comitum Buloniensium MGH SS IX, p. 301.
[1527] Murray (2000), p. 28,
[1528] Chronique de Robert de Torigni, Tome I, 1026, p. 34.
[1529] CP I 351 footnote d, quoting from Stapleton, T. Archaeologia XXVI, pp. 358-60.
[1530] CP I 351 footnote d, quoting from Stapleton, T. Archaeologia XXVI, pp. 358-60.
[1531] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber IV, VII, p. 221.17
[1527] Murray (2000), p. 28,
[1528] Chronique de Robert de Torigni, Tome I, 1026, p. 34.
[1529] CP I 351 footnote d, quoting from Stapleton, T. Archaeologia XXVI, pp. 358-60.
[1530] CP I 351 footnote d, quoting from Stapleton, T. Archaeologia XXVI, pp. 358-60.
[1531] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber IV, VII, p. 221.17
; Per Wikipedia:
"Lambert II, Count of Lens (died 1054) was a French nobleman. He was likely born circa 1030. This would put his death age at about 24 years old.
"He was the son of Eustace I, Count of Bologne and of Maud of Louvain (daughter of Lambert I of Louvain).[1] c.?1053 he married Adelaide of Normandy, Countess of Aumale, daughter of Robert I, Duke of Normandy and sister of William the Conqueror.[2] Adelaide was the widow of Enguerrand II, Count of Ponthieu who died in 1053.[3] c.?1054 Lambert and Adelaide had a daughter, Judith of Lens, although Lambert would scarcely have seen her; he was killed at the battle of Lille in 1054.[4] Lambert was supporting Baldwin V, Count of Flanders against Henry III, Holy Roman Emperor when he was killed in battle.[5] His widow, Adelaide, married thirdly, Odo, Count of Champagne.[6]
References
1. Detlev Schwennicke, Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge, Band III Teilband 4 (Marburg, Germany: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1989), Tafel 621
2. George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant Extinct or Dormant, Vol. I, ed. Vicary Gibbs (London: The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., 1910), pp. 351-2
3. Detlev Schwennicke, Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge, Band III Teilband 4 (Marburg, Germany: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1989), Tafel 653
4. John Carl Andressohn, The ancestry and life of Godfrey of Bouillon (Ayer Publishing, 1972), p. 20
53. James Robinson Planché, The Conqueror and his companions, Vol. 1 (London: Tinsley Brothers, 1874), p. 122
6. George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant Extinct or Dormant, Vol. I, ed. Vicary Gibbs (London: The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., 1910), pp. 352."21
; Per Racines et Histoire (Boulogne): "Lambert de Boulogne +X 1054 (Phalempin) comte de Lens (1047) (le comté de Lens à sa mort retourne à son frère aîné Eustache)
ép. 1053/54 Adelais (Aeliz) de Normandie, douairière d’Aumâle + ~1082/84 (fille illégitime du duc Robert II «Le Diable» ; veuve d’Enguerrand II, comte de Ponthieu, seigneur d’Aumale) ; ép. 3) 1060 Eudes III, comte de Troyes-Blois.)8"
; Per Genealogy.EU: "A3. Lambert, Cte de Lens, +k.a.Phalampin 1054; m.1053/54 Adelaide of Normandy (*ca 1030, +1081/84.)19" He was comte de Lens in 1047.8
Family | Adélaïde (?) de Normandie, comtesse d'Aumale b. b 1030, d. bt 1081 - 1084 |
Child |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page ("Normandy Family"): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html#ARo2
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Boulogne page (Counts of Boulogne sur Mer): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/boulogne.html
- [S1896] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 22 June 2005: "Extended Pedigree of Counts of Boulogne-sur-Mer"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/44eb7V2WEXc/m/5ixO37yx3noJ) to e-mail address, 22 June 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 22 June 2005."
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boulogne.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lambert: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108318&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#Lambertdied1054A. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eustace I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00092012&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison comtale de Boulogne, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boulogne.pdf
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#EustacheIdied1049A
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Matilde de Louvain: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00092013&tree=LEO
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 148-22, p. 130. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/richa001.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Aumale.pdf, p. 2.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adela of Normandy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108319&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY.htm#Adelaisdied1081
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Ducs de Normandie, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Normandie.pdf
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#Lambertdied1054
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Normandy page - Normandy Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/normandy/normandy.html
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Counts of Boulogne sur Mer: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/boulogne.html#L
- [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Lambert II de Lens: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambert_II_de_Lens. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambert_II,_Count_of_Lens. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Judith of Lens: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108321&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#Judithdiedafter1086MWaltheof
Thierry II (Dirk, Didrik, Dietrich) (?) Duke of Upper Lorraine1,2,3,4,5
M, #6609, b. circa 1055, d. 23 January 1115
Father | Gerard IV (?) Graf von Metz, Count of Alsace, Duke of Upper Lotharingia, Count of Chatenois6,1,4,7,2,8,5 b. c 1008, d. c 14 Apr 1070 |
Mother | Hedwige (Hadwide) (?) de Namur9,1,4,10,8,2,5 b. bt 1005 - 1010, d. 1080 |
Reference | GAV29 |
Last Edited | 25 Oct 2020 |
Thierry II (Dirk, Didrik, Dietrich) (?) Duke of Upper Lorraine was born circa 1055.2 He married Hedwig (?) Grafin von Formbach, daughter of Friedrich (?) Graf von Formbach and Gertrude (?) von Haldensleben, in 1079
;
Her 2nd husband; his 1st wife. Genealogy.EU (Lorraine 11 page) says m. ca 1075; Genealogics says m. 1079.11,5,12,13,2 Thierry II (Dirk, Didrik, Dietrich) (?) Duke of Upper Lorraine married Gertrude (?) de Flandres, daughter of Robert I "le Frison" (?) Count of Flanders, Count of Holland and Gertrude (?) von Sachsen, on 15 August 1095 at Han-sur-Lesse, Namur, Wallonia, Belgium (now),
;
His 2nd wife; her 2nd husband. Genealogy EU says m. 1095/96; Weis says m. ca 1100; Genealogics says m. 1095/96.8,11,14,3,15,4,16,17,2
Thierry II (Dirk, Didrik, Dietrich) (?) Duke of Upper Lorraine died on 23 January 1115; Genealogics says d. 1 May 1115; Med Lands says d. 30 Dec 1115.18,19,14,20,15,4,5,2,8
; Per Genealogics:
"Thierry II, called 'the Valiant', was the son of Gerhard, duke of Upper-Lorraine, and his wife Hadwide. He was duke of Lorraine from 1070 to his death.
"Sofie of Lorraine, the daughter of Friedrich II, duke of Upper-Lorraine, who had inherited the counties of Bar and Montbéliard, and her husband Graf Ludwig von Mousson, Castellanus in Mömpelgard, Altkirch und Pfirt, contesting Thierry's succession. In order to receive the support of his brother Gerhard, Thierry gave him the county of Vaudémont and convened an assembly of nobles who elected Thierry duke over Ludwig. After Ludwig's death between 1073 and 1076, his son Thierry I (Dietrich), comte de Bar-le-Duc, again claimed the succession to Lorraine. However, Emperor Heinrich IV confirmed Thierry in the duchy. Probably for this reason, Thierry remained faithful to the emperor throughout his rule. He fought the Saxons while they were at war with the emperor between 1070 and 1078, and he opposed the popes Gregory VII and Urban II when they were in conflict with the emperor.
"In 1095 Thierry planned to go on the First Crusade, but he was prevented by ill health, though he persuaded his barons to go. Thereafter he took little part in imperial affairs, preferring not to intervene between Heinrich IV and his son Heinrich (the future Emperor Heinrich V), or against Lothar von Supplinburg, Herzog von Sachsen.
"About 1079 Thierry married Hedwig, Gräfin von Formbach, widow of Gebhard, Graf von Supplinburg, with whom she had the future emperor Lothar von Supplinburg, Herzog von Sachsen. Hedwig was the daughter of Friedrich, Graf von Formbach, and Gertrud von Haldensleben. Thierry and Hedwig had a son Simon I and daughter Geertruid/Petronella who would have progeny.
"About 1095 Thierry married Gertrud van Vlaanderen, daughter of Robert I 'the Friesian', Graaf van Vlaanderen, and Gertrud von Sachsen. They had five children of whom only Thierry II would have progeny.
"Thierry died on 1 May 1115." [See Note Per Med Lands]2
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"THIERRY de Lorraine (-30 Dec 1115). The Notitiæ Fundationis Monasterii Bosonis-Villæ records the succession of "dux Theodericus puer parvulus Gerhardi ducis filius"[12], although, considering the estimated birth date range of his mother, Thierry must have been adult when his father died. He succeeded his father in 1070 as THIERRY II Duke of Lorraine, opposed by his brother to whom he ceded territories which became the county of Vaudémont in Apr 1073 after waging war for two years. Weakened by this conflict, Louis Comte de Mousson claimed the title duke from Duke Thierry. "Hadewidis ductrix" founded the abbey of Châtenois by charter dated to after 1075, confirmed "post obitum ductricis Hadewidis" by "dux Theodericus filius eius"[13]. The Codex de l’Angelica records “Haduydis ducissa” donating a serf to Remiremont, with the consent of “filiis suis duce Theoderico atque comite Girardo”, undated[14]. During the investiture crisis, Duke Thierry supported Emperor Heinrich IV who enabled him to take control of Metz after expelling Hermann Bishop of Metz[15]. Pibo Bishop of Toul granted privileges to the monastery of Toul Saint-Léon and named "dux Theodericus et Simon puer eius filius, et frater ducis Gerardus comes et Renardus comes Tillensis" by charter dated 10 Oct 1091[16]. Emperor Heinrich V granted him the title "Marquis" in [1114][17]. “Theodoricus...Lotharingorum princeps, dux et marchio” donated “quidquid continetur a rivo de Grimommont usque ad nemus de Granviller et usque ad nemus de Stivay” to Saint-Dié, at the request of “Hugonis de Distorchio”, in the presence of “suorum filiorum...Simonis, Theodorici, Gerardi, Henrici”, by charter dated 19 Mar 1114[18]. The Obituaire de Saint-Mansuy records the death "30 Dec" of "Theodoricus dux"[19].
"m firstly ([1080]) as her second husband, HEDWIG von Formbach, widow of GERHARD von Süpplingenburg Graf im Harzgau, daughter of FRIEDRICH Graf von Formbach & his wife Gertrud von Haldensleben (-[1090/93]). According to Poull, Duke Thierry unsuccessfully petitioned the Pope in early 1079 to marry Agnès d'Aquitaine, widow of Pierre Comte de Savoie, which if correct means that his first marriage inevitably took place after this[20].
"m secondly (Han-sur-Lesse 15 Aug 1095) as her second husband, GERTRUDE de Flandre, widow of HENRI III Comte de Louvain, daughter of ROBERT I "Friso" Count of Flanders & his wife Gertrud of Saxony [Billung] (-[1115/26]). Her parentage and both her marriages are deduced from the Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin in which is named "Gertrude filia Roberti Frisonis, vidua Henrici Bruselensis" mother of "Theodericum" who is in turn named "filium Theoderici ducis de Helsath"[21]. The Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana specifies that "Robertus comes cognomento Frisio" had three daughters "tercia Theoderico comiti Alsatie [nupsit]"[22]."
Med Lands cites:
; This is the same person as ”Theodoric II, Duke of Lorraine” at Wikipedia and as ”Thierry II de Lorraine” at Wikipédia (FR).21,22
; Per Med Lands:
"THIERRY de Lorraine (-30 Dec 1115). The Notitiæ Fundationis Monasterii Bosonis-Villæ records the succession of "dux Theodericus puer parvulus Gerhardi ducis filius"[12], although, considering the estimated birth date range of his mother, Thierry must have been adult when his father died. He succeeded his father in 1070 as THIERRY II Duke of Lorraine, opposed by his brother to whom he ceded territories which became the county of Vaudémont in Apr 1073 after waging war for two years. Weakened by this conflict, Louis Comte de Mousson claimed the title duke from Duke Thierry. "Hadewidis ductrix" founded the abbey of Châtenois by charter dated to after 1075, confirmed "post obitum ductricis Hadewidis" by "dux Theodericus filius eius"[13]. The Codex de l’Angelica records “Haduydis ducissa” donating a serf to Remiremont, with the consent of “filiis suis duce Theoderico atque comite Girardo”, undated[14]. During the investiture crisis, Duke Thierry supported Emperor Heinrich IV who enabled him to take control of Metz after expelling Hermann Bishop of Metz[15]. Pibo Bishop of Toul granted privileges to the monastery of Toul Saint-Léon and named "dux Theodericus et Simon puer eius filius, et frater ducis Gerardus comes et Renardus comes Tillensis" by charter dated 10 Oct 1091[16]. Emperor Heinrich V granted him the title "Marquis" in [1114][17]. “Theodoricus...Lotharingorum princeps, dux et marchio” donated “quidquid continetur a rivo de Grimommont usque ad nemus de Granviller et usque ad nemus de Stivay” to Saint-Dié, at the request of “Hugonis de Distorchio”, in the presence of “suorum filiorum...Simonis, Theodorici, Gerardi, Henrici”, by charter dated 19 Mar 1114[18]. The Obituaire de Saint-Mansuy records the death "30 Dec" of "Theodoricus dux"[19].
"m firstly ([1080]) as her second husband, HEDWIG von Formbach, widow of GERHARD von Süpplingenburg Graf im Harzgau, daughter of FRIEDRICH Graf von Formbach & his wife Gertrud von Haldensleben (-[1090/93]). According to Poull, Duke Thierry unsuccessfully petitioned the Pope in early 1079 to marry Agnès d'Aquitaine, widow of Pierre Comte de Savoie, which if correct means that his first marriage inevitably took place after this[20].
"m secondly (Han-sur-Lesse 15 Aug 1095) as her second husband, GERTRUDE de Flandre, widow of HENRI III Comte de Louvain, daughter of ROBERT I "Friso" Count of Flanders & his wife Gertrud of Saxony [Billung] (-[1115/26]). Her parentage and both her marriages are deduced from the Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin in which is named "Gertrude filia Roberti Frisonis, vidua Henrici Bruselensis" mother of "Theodericum" who is in turn named "filium Theoderici ducis de Helsath"[21]. The Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana specifies that "Robertus comes cognomento Frisio" had three daughters "tercia Theoderico comiti Alsatie [nupsit]"[2"
Med Lands cites:
; Genealogy.EU (Lorraine 11): "A1. Duke Thierry II of Lorraine (1070-1115), +23.1./30.12.1115; 1m: ca 1075 Hedwig (+1085/90), dau.of Ct Friedrich von Formbach; 2m: 1095/96 Gertrude of Flanders (*ca 1080 +1117.)23"
; Per Weis: “Gertrude of Flanders, b. abt. 1070, d. 1117; m. (2) 1095/6 Thierry (Dietrich) II, Duke of Lorraine, d. 1115, s. of Gerard IV, d. 1070, Count of Alsace, Duke of Upper Lorraine, by Hadwide, d. abt. 1080, dau.l of Albert I, d. 1012, Count of Namur & Ermengarde of Lorraine (149-20), (ES II/6).”.8
; Per Racines et Histoire (Flandres): “Gertrude de Flandres ° ~1080 + 1115/26 (1117 ?)
ép. 1) Henri III, comte de Louvain +X 05/02/1095 (Tournai, en tournoi) (fils d’Henri II et d’Adelheid de Betuwe)
ép. 2) 16/08/1095 (Han-surLesse) Thierri II (Dirk, Didrik, Dietrich) de Haute-Lorraine dit «d’Alsace» ° avant 1066 + 23/01/1115 (fils de Gérard, duc de Haute-Lorraine, et de Hadwide de Namur”.24
; Per Genealogy.EU (Flanders 1): “H5. Gertrud, *ca 1080, +1117; 1m: Ct Henry III of Louvaine (+1095); 2m: 1095/96 Duke Thierry II of Upper Lorraine (*before 1066 +23.1.1115)”.25
; Per Med Lands:
"GERTRUDE de Flandre (-[1115/26]). Galbert of Bruges names "abbatissam Messinis et Gertrudem" as the daughters of Robert I Count of Flanders and his wife Gertrude[376]. Her parentage and both her marriages are deduced from the Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin which names "Gertrude filia Roberti Frisonis, vidua Henrici Bruselensis" as mother of "Theodericum", who is in turn named "filium Theoderici ducis de Helsath"[377]. The Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana specifies that "Robertus comes cognomento Frisio" had three daughters and that "tercia Theoderico comiti Alsatie [nupsit]"[378]. A charter dated 1095 records a donation to Flône, notes the approval of "Henricus Lovaniensis comitis" and adds that he married "filie Roberti Flandriensis comitis"[379].
"m firstly HENRI III Comte de Louvain, son of HENRI II Comte de Louvain & his wife Adela [Adelheid] in der Betuwe (-Tournai 5 Feb 1095).
"m secondly (Han-sur-Lesse 15 Aug 1095) as his second wife, THIERRY II Duke of Lorraine, son of GERARD Duke of Upper Lotharingia & his wife Hadwide [de Namur] (-30 Dec 1115)."
Med Lands cites:
;
Her 2nd husband; his 1st wife. Genealogy.EU (Lorraine 11 page) says m. ca 1075; Genealogics says m. 1079.11,5,12,13,2 Thierry II (Dirk, Didrik, Dietrich) (?) Duke of Upper Lorraine married Gertrude (?) de Flandres, daughter of Robert I "le Frison" (?) Count of Flanders, Count of Holland and Gertrude (?) von Sachsen, on 15 August 1095 at Han-sur-Lesse, Namur, Wallonia, Belgium (now),
;
His 2nd wife; her 2nd husband. Genealogy EU says m. 1095/96; Weis says m. ca 1100; Genealogics says m. 1095/96.8,11,14,3,15,4,16,17,2
Thierry II (Dirk, Didrik, Dietrich) (?) Duke of Upper Lorraine died on 23 January 1115; Genealogics says d. 1 May 1115; Med Lands says d. 30 Dec 1115.18,19,14,20,15,4,5,2,8
; Per Genealogics:
"Thierry II, called 'the Valiant', was the son of Gerhard, duke of Upper-Lorraine, and his wife Hadwide. He was duke of Lorraine from 1070 to his death.
"Sofie of Lorraine, the daughter of Friedrich II, duke of Upper-Lorraine, who had inherited the counties of Bar and Montbéliard, and her husband Graf Ludwig von Mousson, Castellanus in Mömpelgard, Altkirch und Pfirt, contesting Thierry's succession. In order to receive the support of his brother Gerhard, Thierry gave him the county of Vaudémont and convened an assembly of nobles who elected Thierry duke over Ludwig. After Ludwig's death between 1073 and 1076, his son Thierry I (Dietrich), comte de Bar-le-Duc, again claimed the succession to Lorraine. However, Emperor Heinrich IV confirmed Thierry in the duchy. Probably for this reason, Thierry remained faithful to the emperor throughout his rule. He fought the Saxons while they were at war with the emperor between 1070 and 1078, and he opposed the popes Gregory VII and Urban II when they were in conflict with the emperor.
"In 1095 Thierry planned to go on the First Crusade, but he was prevented by ill health, though he persuaded his barons to go. Thereafter he took little part in imperial affairs, preferring not to intervene between Heinrich IV and his son Heinrich (the future Emperor Heinrich V), or against Lothar von Supplinburg, Herzog von Sachsen.
"About 1079 Thierry married Hedwig, Gräfin von Formbach, widow of Gebhard, Graf von Supplinburg, with whom she had the future emperor Lothar von Supplinburg, Herzog von Sachsen. Hedwig was the daughter of Friedrich, Graf von Formbach, and Gertrud von Haldensleben. Thierry and Hedwig had a son Simon I and daughter Geertruid/Petronella who would have progeny.
"About 1095 Thierry married Gertrud van Vlaanderen, daughter of Robert I 'the Friesian', Graaf van Vlaanderen, and Gertrud von Sachsen. They had five children of whom only Thierry II would have progeny.
"Thierry died on 1 May 1115." [See Note Per Med Lands]2
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: I 13.
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VI 129.2
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VI 129.2
; Per Med Lands:
"THIERRY de Lorraine (-30 Dec 1115). The Notitiæ Fundationis Monasterii Bosonis-Villæ records the succession of "dux Theodericus puer parvulus Gerhardi ducis filius"[12], although, considering the estimated birth date range of his mother, Thierry must have been adult when his father died. He succeeded his father in 1070 as THIERRY II Duke of Lorraine, opposed by his brother to whom he ceded territories which became the county of Vaudémont in Apr 1073 after waging war for two years. Weakened by this conflict, Louis Comte de Mousson claimed the title duke from Duke Thierry. "Hadewidis ductrix" founded the abbey of Châtenois by charter dated to after 1075, confirmed "post obitum ductricis Hadewidis" by "dux Theodericus filius eius"[13]. The Codex de l’Angelica records “Haduydis ducissa” donating a serf to Remiremont, with the consent of “filiis suis duce Theoderico atque comite Girardo”, undated[14]. During the investiture crisis, Duke Thierry supported Emperor Heinrich IV who enabled him to take control of Metz after expelling Hermann Bishop of Metz[15]. Pibo Bishop of Toul granted privileges to the monastery of Toul Saint-Léon and named "dux Theodericus et Simon puer eius filius, et frater ducis Gerardus comes et Renardus comes Tillensis" by charter dated 10 Oct 1091[16]. Emperor Heinrich V granted him the title "Marquis" in [1114][17]. “Theodoricus...Lotharingorum princeps, dux et marchio” donated “quidquid continetur a rivo de Grimommont usque ad nemus de Granviller et usque ad nemus de Stivay” to Saint-Dié, at the request of “Hugonis de Distorchio”, in the presence of “suorum filiorum...Simonis, Theodorici, Gerardi, Henrici”, by charter dated 19 Mar 1114[18]. The Obituaire de Saint-Mansuy records the death "30 Dec" of "Theodoricus dux"[19].
"m firstly ([1080]) as her second husband, HEDWIG von Formbach, widow of GERHARD von Süpplingenburg Graf im Harzgau, daughter of FRIEDRICH Graf von Formbach & his wife Gertrud von Haldensleben (-[1090/93]). According to Poull, Duke Thierry unsuccessfully petitioned the Pope in early 1079 to marry Agnès d'Aquitaine, widow of Pierre Comte de Savoie, which if correct means that his first marriage inevitably took place after this[20].
"m secondly (Han-sur-Lesse 15 Aug 1095) as her second husband, GERTRUDE de Flandre, widow of HENRI III Comte de Louvain, daughter of ROBERT I "Friso" Count of Flanders & his wife Gertrud of Saxony [Billung] (-[1115/26]). Her parentage and both her marriages are deduced from the Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin in which is named "Gertrude filia Roberti Frisonis, vidua Henrici Bruselensis" mother of "Theodericum" who is in turn named "filium Theoderici ducis de Helsath"[21]. The Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana specifies that "Robertus comes cognomento Frisio" had three daughters "tercia Theoderico comiti Alsatie [nupsit]"[22]."
Med Lands cites:
[12] Notitiæ Fundationis Monasterii Bosonis-Villæ I, MGH SS XV.2, p. 978.
[13] Molesme II, 119 and 127, pp. 120 and 126.
[14] Didier-Laurent ‘L’abbaye de Remiremont’ (1897), p. 390.
[15] Poull (1991), p. 23.
[16] Calmet, A. (1748) Histoire de Lorraine (Nancy), Tome III, Preuves, col. xx.
[17] Poull (1991), p. 24.
[18] Sommier (1726), L, p. 370.
[19] Mavot, P. 'L'obituaire de l'abbaye de Saint-Mansuy-lès-Toul', Revue Mabillon XIX 1929, p. 56.
[20] Poull (1991), p. 25.
[21] Guérard, M. (ed.) (1840) Cartulaire de l'abbaye de Saint-Bertin, Collection des cartularies de France Tome III (Paris) ("Saint-Bertin") II.11, p. 299.
[22] Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana, Continuatio Leidensis et Divionensis (Cod. Divion. et Cisterc. addunt), MGH SS IX, p. 307, where the second daughter is incorrectly referred to as the wife of Philippe II King of France.5
[13] Molesme II, 119 and 127, pp. 120 and 126.
[14] Didier-Laurent ‘L’abbaye de Remiremont’ (1897), p. 390.
[15] Poull (1991), p. 23.
[16] Calmet, A. (1748) Histoire de Lorraine (Nancy), Tome III, Preuves, col. xx.
[17] Poull (1991), p. 24.
[18] Sommier (1726), L, p. 370.
[19] Mavot, P. 'L'obituaire de l'abbaye de Saint-Mansuy-lès-Toul', Revue Mabillon XIX 1929, p. 56.
[20] Poull (1991), p. 25.
[21] Guérard, M. (ed.) (1840) Cartulaire de l'abbaye de Saint-Bertin, Collection des cartularies de France Tome III (Paris) ("Saint-Bertin") II.11, p. 299.
[22] Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana, Continuatio Leidensis et Divionensis (Cod. Divion. et Cisterc. addunt), MGH SS IX, p. 307, where the second daughter is incorrectly referred to as the wife of Philippe II King of France.5
; This is the same person as ”Theodoric II, Duke of Lorraine” at Wikipedia and as ”Thierry II de Lorraine” at Wikipédia (FR).21,22
; Per Med Lands:
"THIERRY de Lorraine (-30 Dec 1115). The Notitiæ Fundationis Monasterii Bosonis-Villæ records the succession of "dux Theodericus puer parvulus Gerhardi ducis filius"[12], although, considering the estimated birth date range of his mother, Thierry must have been adult when his father died. He succeeded his father in 1070 as THIERRY II Duke of Lorraine, opposed by his brother to whom he ceded territories which became the county of Vaudémont in Apr 1073 after waging war for two years. Weakened by this conflict, Louis Comte de Mousson claimed the title duke from Duke Thierry. "Hadewidis ductrix" founded the abbey of Châtenois by charter dated to after 1075, confirmed "post obitum ductricis Hadewidis" by "dux Theodericus filius eius"[13]. The Codex de l’Angelica records “Haduydis ducissa” donating a serf to Remiremont, with the consent of “filiis suis duce Theoderico atque comite Girardo”, undated[14]. During the investiture crisis, Duke Thierry supported Emperor Heinrich IV who enabled him to take control of Metz after expelling Hermann Bishop of Metz[15]. Pibo Bishop of Toul granted privileges to the monastery of Toul Saint-Léon and named "dux Theodericus et Simon puer eius filius, et frater ducis Gerardus comes et Renardus comes Tillensis" by charter dated 10 Oct 1091[16]. Emperor Heinrich V granted him the title "Marquis" in [1114][17]. “Theodoricus...Lotharingorum princeps, dux et marchio” donated “quidquid continetur a rivo de Grimommont usque ad nemus de Granviller et usque ad nemus de Stivay” to Saint-Dié, at the request of “Hugonis de Distorchio”, in the presence of “suorum filiorum...Simonis, Theodorici, Gerardi, Henrici”, by charter dated 19 Mar 1114[18]. The Obituaire de Saint-Mansuy records the death "30 Dec" of "Theodoricus dux"[19].
"m firstly ([1080]) as her second husband, HEDWIG von Formbach, widow of GERHARD von Süpplingenburg Graf im Harzgau, daughter of FRIEDRICH Graf von Formbach & his wife Gertrud von Haldensleben (-[1090/93]). According to Poull, Duke Thierry unsuccessfully petitioned the Pope in early 1079 to marry Agnès d'Aquitaine, widow of Pierre Comte de Savoie, which if correct means that his first marriage inevitably took place after this[20].
"m secondly (Han-sur-Lesse 15 Aug 1095) as her second husband, GERTRUDE de Flandre, widow of HENRI III Comte de Louvain, daughter of ROBERT I "Friso" Count of Flanders & his wife Gertrud of Saxony [Billung] (-[1115/26]). Her parentage and both her marriages are deduced from the Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin in which is named "Gertrude filia Roberti Frisonis, vidua Henrici Bruselensis" mother of "Theodericum" who is in turn named "filium Theoderici ducis de Helsath"[21]. The Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana specifies that "Robertus comes cognomento Frisio" had three daughters "tercia Theoderico comiti Alsatie [nupsit]"[2"
Med Lands cites:
[12] Notitiæ Fundationis Monasterii Bosonis-Villæ I, MGH SS XV.2, p. 978.
[13] Molesme II, 119 and 127, pp. 120 and 126.
[14] Didier-Laurent ‘L’abbaye de Remiremont’ (1897), p. 390.
[15] Poull (1991), p. 23.
[16] Calmet, A. (1748) Histoire de Lorraine (Nancy), Tome III, Preuves, col. xx.
[17] Poull (1991), p. 24.
[18] Sommier (1726), L, p. 370.
[19] Mavot, P. 'L'obituaire de l'abbaye de Saint-Mansuy-lès-Toul', Revue Mabillon XIX 1929, p. 56.
[20] Poull (1991), p. 25.
[21] Guérard, M. (ed.) (1840) Cartulaire de l'abbaye de Saint-Bertin, Collection des cartularies de France Tome III (Paris) ("Saint-Bertin") II.11, p. 299.
[22] Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana, Continuatio Leidensis et Divionensis (Cod. Divion. et Cisterc. addunt), MGH SS IX, p. 307, where the second daughter is incorrectly referred to as the wife of Philippe II King of France.5
GAV-29 EDV-25 GKJ-26. [13] Molesme II, 119 and 127, pp. 120 and 126.
[14] Didier-Laurent ‘L’abbaye de Remiremont’ (1897), p. 390.
[15] Poull (1991), p. 23.
[16] Calmet, A. (1748) Histoire de Lorraine (Nancy), Tome III, Preuves, col. xx.
[17] Poull (1991), p. 24.
[18] Sommier (1726), L, p. 370.
[19] Mavot, P. 'L'obituaire de l'abbaye de Saint-Mansuy-lès-Toul', Revue Mabillon XIX 1929, p. 56.
[20] Poull (1991), p. 25.
[21] Guérard, M. (ed.) (1840) Cartulaire de l'abbaye de Saint-Bertin, Collection des cartularies de France Tome III (Paris) ("Saint-Bertin") II.11, p. 299.
[22] Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana, Continuatio Leidensis et Divionensis (Cod. Divion. et Cisterc. addunt), MGH SS IX, p. 307, where the second daughter is incorrectly referred to as the wife of Philippe II King of France.5
; Genealogy.EU (Lorraine 11): "A1. Duke Thierry II of Lorraine (1070-1115), +23.1./30.12.1115; 1m: ca 1075 Hedwig (+1085/90), dau.of Ct Friedrich von Formbach; 2m: 1095/96 Gertrude of Flanders (*ca 1080 +1117.)23"
; Per Weis: “Gertrude of Flanders, b. abt. 1070, d. 1117; m. (2) 1095/6 Thierry (Dietrich) II, Duke of Lorraine, d. 1115, s. of Gerard IV, d. 1070, Count of Alsace, Duke of Upper Lorraine, by Hadwide, d. abt. 1080, dau.l of Albert I, d. 1012, Count of Namur & Ermengarde of Lorraine (149-20), (ES II/6).”.8
; Per Racines et Histoire (Flandres): “Gertrude de Flandres ° ~1080 + 1115/26 (1117 ?)
ép. 1) Henri III, comte de Louvain +X 05/02/1095 (Tournai, en tournoi) (fils d’Henri II et d’Adelheid de Betuwe)
ép. 2) 16/08/1095 (Han-surLesse) Thierri II (Dirk, Didrik, Dietrich) de Haute-Lorraine dit «d’Alsace» ° avant 1066 + 23/01/1115 (fils de Gérard, duc de Haute-Lorraine, et de Hadwide de Namur”.24
; Per Genealogy.EU (Flanders 1): “H5. Gertrud, *ca 1080, +1117; 1m: Ct Henry III of Louvaine (+1095); 2m: 1095/96 Duke Thierry II of Upper Lorraine (*before 1066 +23.1.1115)”.25
; Per Med Lands:
"GERTRUDE de Flandre (-[1115/26]). Galbert of Bruges names "abbatissam Messinis et Gertrudem" as the daughters of Robert I Count of Flanders and his wife Gertrude[376]. Her parentage and both her marriages are deduced from the Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin which names "Gertrude filia Roberti Frisonis, vidua Henrici Bruselensis" as mother of "Theodericum", who is in turn named "filium Theoderici ducis de Helsath"[377]. The Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana specifies that "Robertus comes cognomento Frisio" had three daughters and that "tercia Theoderico comiti Alsatie [nupsit]"[378]. A charter dated 1095 records a donation to Flône, notes the approval of "Henricus Lovaniensis comitis" and adds that he married "filie Roberti Flandriensis comitis"[379].
"m firstly HENRI III Comte de Louvain, son of HENRI II Comte de Louvain & his wife Adela [Adelheid] in der Betuwe (-Tournai 5 Feb 1095).
"m secondly (Han-sur-Lesse 15 Aug 1095) as his second wife, THIERRY II Duke of Lorraine, son of GERARD Duke of Upper Lotharingia & his wife Hadwide [de Namur] (-30 Dec 1115)."
Med Lands cites:
[376] Galbert de Bruges, 68, p. 109.
[377] Saint-Bertin II.11, p. 299.
[378] Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana, Continuatio Leidensis et Divionensis (Cod. Divion. et Cisterc. addunt), MGH SS IX, p. 307, where the second daughter is incorrectly referred to as the wife of Philippe II King of France.
[379] Evrard, M. (ed.) ´Documents relatifs à l´abbaye de Flône´, Analectes pour servir à l´histoire ecclésiastique de la Belgique, Tome XXIII (Louvain, 1892) ("Flône"), II, p. 285.17
He was Duke of Lorraine between 1070 and 1115.19[377] Saint-Bertin II.11, p. 299.
[378] Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana, Continuatio Leidensis et Divionensis (Cod. Divion. et Cisterc. addunt), MGH SS IX, p. 307, where the second daughter is incorrectly referred to as the wife of Philippe II King of France.
[379] Evrard, M. (ed.) ´Documents relatifs à l´abbaye de Flône´, Analectes pour servir à l´histoire ecclésiastique de la Belgique, Tome XXIII (Louvain, 1892) ("Flône"), II, p. 285.17
Family 1 | Hedwig (?) Grafin von Formbach b. 1050, d. 1088 |
Children |
Family 2 | Gertrude (?) de Flandres b. 1070, d. 1117 |
Children |
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Citations
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- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf, p. 7. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
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- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gertrud van Vlaanderen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026283&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLANDERS,%20HAINAUT.htm#Gertrudedied11151126A.
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 164-24, p. 143. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Lorraine 11 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/lorraine/lorraine11.html#PTL
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thierry II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026281&tree=LEO
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodoric_II,_Duke_of_Lorraine. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S4759] Wikipedia - Die freie Enzyklopädie, online https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hauptseite, Thierry II de Lorraine: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thierry_II_de_Lorraine. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (DE).
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Lorraine 11 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/lorraine/lorraine11.html#D2
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Flandre(s)-Vlaanderen, p. 7: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders1.html#GR1
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Simon I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026284&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LORRAINE.htm#SimonIdied1139B
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Geertruid/Petronella de Lorraine: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00018666&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LORRAINE.htm#GertrudePetronilladied1144
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf, p. 8.
Gertrude (?) de Flandres1,2,3,4,5
F, #6610, b. 1070, d. 1117
Father | Robert I "le Frison" (?) Count of Flanders, Count of Holland6,7,8,9,10,4,5 b. 1031, d. 13 Oct 1093 |
Mother | Gertrude (?) von Sachsen6,7,9,11,10,4,5 b. c 1028, d. 4 Aug 1113 |
Reference | GAV25 EDV25 |
Last Edited | 25 Oct 2020 |
Gertrude (?) de Flandres married Henri III (?) comte de Louvain, graf en vogt van Brabant, son of Henri II 'le Ceinture' (?) Comte de Louvain and Adelaide/Adele (?) van Betuwe, comtesse des Basques,
;
Her 1st husband.3,12,13,2,14,15,4,5 Gertrude (?) de Flandres was born in 1070; Genealogy.EU (Flanders 1 page) says b. ca 1080; Racines et Histoire says b. ca 1080; Weis says b. ca 1070.16,6,7,17,18 She married Thierry II (Dirk, Didrik, Dietrich) (?) Duke of Upper Lorraine, son of Gerard IV (?) Graf von Metz, Count of Alsace, Duke of Upper Lotharingia, Count of Chatenois and Hedwige (Hadwide) (?) de Namur, on 15 August 1095 at Han-sur-Lesse, Namur, Wallonia, Belgium (now),
;
His 2nd wife; her 2nd husband. Genealogy EU says m. 1095/96; Weis says m. ca 1100; Genealogics says m. 1095/96.18,19,6,20,7,17,4,5,21
Gertrude (?) de Flandres died in 1117; Racines et Histoire says d. 1115/1126; Genealogics says d. 1117; Med Lands says d. 1115/26.22,6,7,17,4,5
; Genealogy.EU (Lorraine 11): "A1. Duke Thierry II of Lorraine (1070-1115), +23.1./30.12.1115; 1m: ca 1075 Hedwig (+1085/90), dau.of Ct Friedrich von Formbach; 2m: 1095/96 Gertrude of Flanders (*ca 1080 +1117.)1"
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; This is the same person as ”Gertrude of Flanders, Duchess of Lorraine” at Wikipedia and as ”Gertrude de Flandre” at Wikipédia (FR).23,24 GAV-25 EDV-25. Gertrude (?) de Flandres was also known as Gertrude of Flanders.25 Gertrude (?) de Flandres was also known as Gertrud van Vlaanderen.4
; Per Weis: “Gertrude of Flanders, b. abt. 1070, d. 1117; m. (2) 1095/6 Thierry (Dietrich) II, Duke of Lorraine, d. 1115, s. of Gerard IV, d. 1070, Count of Alsace, Duke of Upper Lorraine, by Hadwide, d. abt. 1080, dau.l of Albert I, d. 1012, Count of Namur & Ermengarde of Lorraine (149-20), (ES II/6).”.18
; Per Med Lands:
"GERTRUDE de Flandre (-[1115/26]). Galbert of Bruges names "abbatissam Messinis et Gertrudem" as the daughters of Robert I Count of Flanders and his wife Gertrude[376]. Her parentage and both her marriages are deduced from the Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin which names "Gertrude filia Roberti Frisonis, vidua Henrici Bruselensis" as mother of "Theodericum", who is in turn named "filium Theoderici ducis de Helsath"[377]. The Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana specifies that "Robertus comes cognomento Frisio" had three daughters and that "tercia Theoderico comiti Alsatie [nupsit]"[378]. A charter dated 1095 records a donation to Flône, notes the approval of "Henricus Lovaniensis comitis" and adds that he married "filie Roberti Flandriensis comitis"[379].
"m firstly HENRI III Comte de Louvain, son of HENRI II Comte de Louvain & his wife Adela [Adelheid] in der Betuwe (-Tournai 5 Feb 1095).
"m secondly (Han-sur-Lesse 15 Aug 1095) as his second wife, THIERRY II Duke of Lorraine, son of GERARD Duke of Upper Lotharingia & his wife Hadwide [de Namur] (-30 Dec 1115)."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (Flanders 1): “H5. Gertrud, *ca 1080, +1117; 1m: Ct Henry III of Louvaine (+1095); 2m: 1095/96 Duke Thierry II of Upper Lorraine (*before 1066 +23.1.1115)”.3
; Per Racines et Histoire (Flandres): “Gertrude de Flandres ° ~1080 + 1115/26 (1117 ?)
ép. 1) Henri III, comte de Louvain +X 05/02/1095 (Tournai, en tournoi) (fils d’Henri II et d’Adelheid de Betuwe)
ép. 2) 16/08/1095 (Han-surLesse) Thierri II (Dirk, Didrik, Dietrich) de Haute-Lorraine dit «d’Alsace» ° avant 1066 + 23/01/1115 (fils de Gérard, duc de Haute-Lorraine, et de Hadwide de Namur”.2 She and Henri III (?) comte de Louvain, graf en vogt van Brabant were Per Med Lands:
"HENRI de Louvain (-killed in a tournament Tournai 5 Feb 1095, bur Nivelles). The Chronicon Affligemense names "Heinrico et Godefrido" as the two sons of "Adela comitissa Lovaniensis"[66]. He succeeded his father in [1078/79] as HENRI [III] Comte de Louvain. "Henricus…Bracbatensis patriæ comes et advocatus" founded Afflighem abbey by charter dated 1086 which also records the donation of property "juxta in villa…Asca" made by "fraterque meus Godefridus"[67]. "…Heinricus comes Lovaniensis…" witnessed the charter dated 1091 under which Henri de Verdun Bishop of Liège approved the foundation of Flône[68]. A charter dated 1095 records a donation to Flône, notes the approval of "Henricus Lovaniensis comitis" and adds that he married "filie Roberti Flandriensis comitis" and died "in single combat" at Tournai[69]. The Genealogia Ducum Brabantiæ Heredum Franciæ names "Henricum comitem Lovaniensem et Godefridum comitem Lovaniensem" as sons of "Henricus comes", specifying that the younger Henri was killed at Tournai and buried at Nivelles[70]. The (probably) mid-13th century Ancienne Chronique de Flandre records that “Gosseghin de Forest”, from the suite of “Everart castelain de Tournai”, killed “Henris quens de Broussiele” [Henri [III] Comte de Louvain] in a tournament at Tournai[71].
"m as her first husband, GERTRUDE de Flandre, daughter of ROBERT I Count of Flanders & his wife Gertrud of Saxony [Billung] (-[1115/26]). Her parentage and both her marriages are deduced from the Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin which names "Gertrude filia Roberti Frisonis, vidua Henrici Bruselensis" as mother of "Theodericum", who is in turn named "filium Theoderici ducis de Helsath"[72]. The Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana specifies that "Robertus comes cognomento Frisio" had three (unnamed) daughters "tercia Theoderico comiti Alsatie [nupsit]"[73]. A charter dated 1095 records a donation to Flône, notes the approval of "Henricus Lovaniensis comitis" and adds that he married "filie Roberti Flandriensis comitis"[74]. She married secondly (Han-sur-Lesse 15 Aug 1095) Thierry II Duke of Lorraine."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (Brabant 2): “B1. Ct Henri III of Louvaine (1078-95), +k.in a tournament at Tournai 5.2.1095; m.Gertrude of Flanders (*ca 1080 +1117)”.14
; Per Racines et Histoire (Brabant): “Henri III de Louvain dit aussi «de Bruxelles» + 05/02/1095 (Tournai, en tournoi par Gossuin de Forest (Cambrésis), tige de la famille de Landas) comte de Louvain (1078/79), graf en vogt van Brabant (1086)
ép. Gertrude de Flandres ° ~1080 + 1115/26 (fille de Robert 1er, «Le Frison» comte de Flandres, et de Gertrude de Saxe (Billung) ; ép. 2) 15/08/1095 (Han-sur-Lesse) Therri II, duc de Lorraine + après 01/05/1115) (cité au Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin)”.13 Gertrude (?) de Flandres was Landgravine of Brabant, Countess of Louvain,
Countess of Brussels between 1090 and 1095.23 She was Duchess of Lorraine between 1096 and 1115.23
;
Her 1st husband.3,12,13,2,14,15,4,5 Gertrude (?) de Flandres was born in 1070; Genealogy.EU (Flanders 1 page) says b. ca 1080; Racines et Histoire says b. ca 1080; Weis says b. ca 1070.16,6,7,17,18 She married Thierry II (Dirk, Didrik, Dietrich) (?) Duke of Upper Lorraine, son of Gerard IV (?) Graf von Metz, Count of Alsace, Duke of Upper Lotharingia, Count of Chatenois and Hedwige (Hadwide) (?) de Namur, on 15 August 1095 at Han-sur-Lesse, Namur, Wallonia, Belgium (now),
;
His 2nd wife; her 2nd husband. Genealogy EU says m. 1095/96; Weis says m. ca 1100; Genealogics says m. 1095/96.18,19,6,20,7,17,4,5,21
Gertrude (?) de Flandres died in 1117; Racines et Histoire says d. 1115/1126; Genealogics says d. 1117; Med Lands says d. 1115/26.22,6,7,17,4,5
; Genealogy.EU (Lorraine 11): "A1. Duke Thierry II of Lorraine (1070-1115), +23.1./30.12.1115; 1m: ca 1075 Hedwig (+1085/90), dau.of Ct Friedrich von Formbach; 2m: 1095/96 Gertrude of Flanders (*ca 1080 +1117.)1"
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, Band I, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. 13.
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, Band II, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. 9.4
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, Band II, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. 9.4
; This is the same person as ”Gertrude of Flanders, Duchess of Lorraine” at Wikipedia and as ”Gertrude de Flandre” at Wikipédia (FR).23,24 GAV-25 EDV-25. Gertrude (?) de Flandres was also known as Gertrude of Flanders.25 Gertrude (?) de Flandres was also known as Gertrud van Vlaanderen.4
; Per Weis: “Gertrude of Flanders, b. abt. 1070, d. 1117; m. (2) 1095/6 Thierry (Dietrich) II, Duke of Lorraine, d. 1115, s. of Gerard IV, d. 1070, Count of Alsace, Duke of Upper Lorraine, by Hadwide, d. abt. 1080, dau.l of Albert I, d. 1012, Count of Namur & Ermengarde of Lorraine (149-20), (ES II/6).”.18
; Per Med Lands:
"GERTRUDE de Flandre (-[1115/26]). Galbert of Bruges names "abbatissam Messinis et Gertrudem" as the daughters of Robert I Count of Flanders and his wife Gertrude[376]. Her parentage and both her marriages are deduced from the Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin which names "Gertrude filia Roberti Frisonis, vidua Henrici Bruselensis" as mother of "Theodericum", who is in turn named "filium Theoderici ducis de Helsath"[377]. The Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana specifies that "Robertus comes cognomento Frisio" had three daughters and that "tercia Theoderico comiti Alsatie [nupsit]"[378]. A charter dated 1095 records a donation to Flône, notes the approval of "Henricus Lovaniensis comitis" and adds that he married "filie Roberti Flandriensis comitis"[379].
"m firstly HENRI III Comte de Louvain, son of HENRI II Comte de Louvain & his wife Adela [Adelheid] in der Betuwe (-Tournai 5 Feb 1095).
"m secondly (Han-sur-Lesse 15 Aug 1095) as his second wife, THIERRY II Duke of Lorraine, son of GERARD Duke of Upper Lotharingia & his wife Hadwide [de Namur] (-30 Dec 1115)."
Med Lands cites:
[376] Galbert de Bruges, 68, p. 109.
[377] Saint-Bertin II.11, p. 299.
[378] Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana, Continuatio Leidensis et Divionensis (Cod. Divion. et Cisterc. addunt), MGH SS IX, p. 307, where the second daughter is incorrectly referred to as the wife of Philippe II King of France.
[379] Evrard, M. (ed.) ´Documents relatifs à l´abbaye de Flône´, Analectes pour servir à l´histoire ecclésiastique de la Belgique, Tome XXIII (Louvain, 1892) ("Flône"), II, p. 285.5
[377] Saint-Bertin II.11, p. 299.
[378] Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana, Continuatio Leidensis et Divionensis (Cod. Divion. et Cisterc. addunt), MGH SS IX, p. 307, where the second daughter is incorrectly referred to as the wife of Philippe II King of France.
[379] Evrard, M. (ed.) ´Documents relatifs à l´abbaye de Flône´, Analectes pour servir à l´histoire ecclésiastique de la Belgique, Tome XXIII (Louvain, 1892) ("Flône"), II, p. 285.5
; Per Genealogy.EU (Flanders 1): “H5. Gertrud, *ca 1080, +1117; 1m: Ct Henry III of Louvaine (+1095); 2m: 1095/96 Duke Thierry II of Upper Lorraine (*before 1066 +23.1.1115)”.3
; Per Racines et Histoire (Flandres): “Gertrude de Flandres ° ~1080 + 1115/26 (1117 ?)
ép. 1) Henri III, comte de Louvain +X 05/02/1095 (Tournai, en tournoi) (fils d’Henri II et d’Adelheid de Betuwe)
ép. 2) 16/08/1095 (Han-surLesse) Thierri II (Dirk, Didrik, Dietrich) de Haute-Lorraine dit «d’Alsace» ° avant 1066 + 23/01/1115 (fils de Gérard, duc de Haute-Lorraine, et de Hadwide de Namur”.2 She and Henri III (?) comte de Louvain, graf en vogt van Brabant were Per Med Lands:
"HENRI de Louvain (-killed in a tournament Tournai 5 Feb 1095, bur Nivelles). The Chronicon Affligemense names "Heinrico et Godefrido" as the two sons of "Adela comitissa Lovaniensis"[66]. He succeeded his father in [1078/79] as HENRI [III] Comte de Louvain. "Henricus…Bracbatensis patriæ comes et advocatus" founded Afflighem abbey by charter dated 1086 which also records the donation of property "juxta in villa…Asca" made by "fraterque meus Godefridus"[67]. "…Heinricus comes Lovaniensis…" witnessed the charter dated 1091 under which Henri de Verdun Bishop of Liège approved the foundation of Flône[68]. A charter dated 1095 records a donation to Flône, notes the approval of "Henricus Lovaniensis comitis" and adds that he married "filie Roberti Flandriensis comitis" and died "in single combat" at Tournai[69]. The Genealogia Ducum Brabantiæ Heredum Franciæ names "Henricum comitem Lovaniensem et Godefridum comitem Lovaniensem" as sons of "Henricus comes", specifying that the younger Henri was killed at Tournai and buried at Nivelles[70]. The (probably) mid-13th century Ancienne Chronique de Flandre records that “Gosseghin de Forest”, from the suite of “Everart castelain de Tournai”, killed “Henris quens de Broussiele” [Henri [III] Comte de Louvain] in a tournament at Tournai[71].
"m as her first husband, GERTRUDE de Flandre, daughter of ROBERT I Count of Flanders & his wife Gertrud of Saxony [Billung] (-[1115/26]). Her parentage and both her marriages are deduced from the Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin which names "Gertrude filia Roberti Frisonis, vidua Henrici Bruselensis" as mother of "Theodericum", who is in turn named "filium Theoderici ducis de Helsath"[72]. The Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana specifies that "Robertus comes cognomento Frisio" had three (unnamed) daughters "tercia Theoderico comiti Alsatie [nupsit]"[73]. A charter dated 1095 records a donation to Flône, notes the approval of "Henricus Lovaniensis comitis" and adds that he married "filie Roberti Flandriensis comitis"[74]. She married secondly (Han-sur-Lesse 15 Aug 1095) Thierry II Duke of Lorraine."
Med Lands cites:
[66] Chronicon Affligemense 4, MGH SS IX, p. 408.
[67] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, LXII, p. 73.
[68] Evrard, M. (ed.) ‘Documents relatifs à l’abbaye de Flône’, Analectes pour servir à l’histoire ecclésiastique de la Belgique, Tome XXIII (Louvain, 1892) ("Flône"), I, p. 282.
[69] Flône, II, p. 285.
[70] Genealogia Ducum Brabantiæ Heredum Franciæ 4, MGH SS XXV, p. 389.
[71] Smet, J. J. de (1841) Corpus Chronicorum Flandriæ (Brussels), Tome II, p. 47.
[72] Guérard, M. (ed.) (1840) Cartulaire de l'abbaye de Saint-Bertin (Paris), II.11, p. 299.
[73] Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana, Continuatio Leidensis et Divionensis (Cod. Divion. et Cisterc. addunt), MGH SS IX, p. 307, where the second daughter is incorrectly referred to as the wife of Philippe II King of France.
[74] Flône, II, p. 285.15
[67] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, LXII, p. 73.
[68] Evrard, M. (ed.) ‘Documents relatifs à l’abbaye de Flône’, Analectes pour servir à l’histoire ecclésiastique de la Belgique, Tome XXIII (Louvain, 1892) ("Flône"), I, p. 282.
[69] Flône, II, p. 285.
[70] Genealogia Ducum Brabantiæ Heredum Franciæ 4, MGH SS XXV, p. 389.
[71] Smet, J. J. de (1841) Corpus Chronicorum Flandriæ (Brussels), Tome II, p. 47.
[72] Guérard, M. (ed.) (1840) Cartulaire de l'abbaye de Saint-Bertin (Paris), II.11, p. 299.
[73] Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana, Continuatio Leidensis et Divionensis (Cod. Divion. et Cisterc. addunt), MGH SS IX, p. 307, where the second daughter is incorrectly referred to as the wife of Philippe II King of France.
[74] Flône, II, p. 285.15
; Per Genealogy.EU (Brabant 2): “B1. Ct Henri III of Louvaine (1078-95), +k.in a tournament at Tournai 5.2.1095; m.Gertrude of Flanders (*ca 1080 +1117)”.14
; Per Racines et Histoire (Brabant): “Henri III de Louvain dit aussi «de Bruxelles» + 05/02/1095 (Tournai, en tournoi par Gossuin de Forest (Cambrésis), tige de la famille de Landas) comte de Louvain (1078/79), graf en vogt van Brabant (1086)
ép. Gertrude de Flandres ° ~1080 + 1115/26 (fille de Robert 1er, «Le Frison» comte de Flandres, et de Gertrude de Saxe (Billung) ; ép. 2) 15/08/1095 (Han-sur-Lesse) Therri II, duc de Lorraine + après 01/05/1115) (cité au Cartulaire de Saint-Bertin)”.13 Gertrude (?) de Flandres was Landgravine of Brabant, Countess of Louvain,
Countess of Brussels between 1090 and 1095.23 She was Duchess of Lorraine between 1096 and 1115.23
Family 1 | Henri III (?) comte de Louvain, graf en vogt van Brabant b. c 1048, d. 5 Feb 1095 |
Children |
Family 2 | Thierry II (Dirk, Didrik, Dietrich) (?) Duke of Upper Lorraine b. c 1055, d. 23 Jan 1115 |
Children |
|
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- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thierry II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026281&tree=LEO
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- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gertrude_of_Flanders,_Duchess_of_Lorraine. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
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- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Brabant 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brabant/brabant2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adelheid de Louvain: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026285&tree=LEO
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Gerard IV (?) Graf von Metz, Count of Alsace, Duke of Upper Lotharingia, Count of Chatenois1,2,3,4
M, #6611, b. circa 1008, d. circa 14 April 1070
Father | Gerhard III (?) de Alsace, Count of Metz1,2,5,6 d. 1045 |
Mother | Gisele (?) de Alsace1,2,7 d. 1045 |
Reference | GAV26 EDV26 |
Last Edited | 25 Oct 2020 |
Gerard IV (?) Graf von Metz, Count of Alsace, Duke of Upper Lotharingia, Count of Chatenois was born circa 1008 at Departement des Vosges, Lorraine, France (now).2,8,9 He married Hedwige (Hadwide) (?) de Namur, daughter of Albert I (?) Cte de Namur, Ct in the Lommengouw and Adelaide/Ermengarde (?) of Lorraine.10,1,2,11,4,12,13
Gerard IV (?) Graf von Metz, Count of Alsace, Duke of Upper Lotharingia, Count of Chatenois was buried circa 14 April 1070 at Remiremont Abbey, Remiremont, Departement des Vosges, Lorraine, France (now); From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 1030, Departement des Vosges, Lorraine, France
DEATH 14 Apr 1070 (aged 39–40), Remiremont, Departement des Vosges, Lorraine, France
Also known as Gerard IV, Duke of Alsace. He was the son of Gerard de Bouzonville, count of Metz, and Gisela. He founded Moyenmoutier Abbey, Saint-Mihiel Abbey, and Remiremont Abbey the latter becoming his final resting place. Among his construction projects, was the castle of Prény, in the centre of the duchy, the beginnings of the capital city, Nancy. He died at Remiremont while trying to kill a revolt. Poisoning was suspected. The date of his death is either 14 April or 11 August.
He was married to Hedwige of Namur (or of Flanders), daughter of Albert II, Count of Namur, and Regelindis of Lower-Lorraine, daughter of Gothelo I, Duke of Lorraine. This marriage helped patch up relations with the baronage. They had the following issue:
Family Members
Parents
Gerard De Bouzonville unknown–1047
Gisella De Alsace 1000–1045
BURIAL Remiremont Abbey, Remiremont, Departement des Vosges, Lorraine, France
Created by: Mad
Added: 26 Jan 2013
Find a Grave Memorial 104205608.9
Gerard IV (?) Graf von Metz, Count of Alsace, Duke of Upper Lotharingia, Count of Chatenois died circa 14 April 1070 at Remiremont, Departement des Vosges, Lorraine, France (now); Med Lands says d. "Remiremont [14 Apr] or 11 Aug [1070]."1,2,11,4
; Per Genealogics:
"Gerhard was the younger son of Gerhard de Bouzonville, Graf von Metz, and Gisela, who may have been a daughter of Thierry I, duke of Upper Lorraine. He was the count of Metz and Chatenois from 1047, when his older brother Adalbert resigned these counties to him on becoming duke of Lorraine. On Adalbert's death the next year, Gerhard became duke and was so until his death. In contemporary documents he is called Gerhard of Alsace (after the familial homeland), Gerhard of Chatenoy (after an ancestral castle near Neufchâteau), or Gerhard of Flanders (after his wife's homeland). He and his wife Hadwide, daughter of Albert I, comte de Namur, and Ermengarde/Aleide de Lorraine, had four children of whom two sons, Thierry II and Gerhard, would have progeny.
"Emperor Heinrich III invested Adalbert with Lorraine in 1047 after confiscating it from Geoffroy 'with the Beard'. Geoffroy did not back down, however, and killed Adalbert in battle. Heinrich then bestowed the dukedom on Gerhard, but the deposed duke continued to stir. Geoffroy had the support of a faction of the nobility who did not want a strong hand at the ducal helm, and Gerhard was imprisoned. However he had the support of the most important bishop, Bruno von Egisheim-Dagsburg, bishop of Toul (later Pope Leo IX), who procured his liberation in 1049. The emperor gave him troops to assist him in his fight, for the rebels had the support of some elements in the Church. Gerhard himself remained, as his brother had, faithful to the end to the imperial dynasty, and his descendants would remain so as well, even into the Hohenstaufen years.
"Gerhard's alliance with the Church was regular but inconstant, though he endowed the abbeys of Mourmoutiers, Saint-Michel and Remiremont. Mourmoutiers was the abbey of Cardinal Humbert of Silva Candida, who excommunicated the patriarch of Constantinople, Michael I Cerularius, in 1054, precipitating the Great Schism, and Remiremont was Gerhard's own final resting place.
"In June 1053 Gerhard and Prince Rudolf of Benevento led papal and Swabian troops into battle on behalf of Leo IX. The Battle of Civitate on 10 June 1053 was a disastrous loss for the pope. His enemies, the Normans under Humphrey de Hauteville and Richard of Aversa, defeated his allies and captured Leo, keeping him in honourable captivity at Benevento, Gerhard, however returned to Lorraine.
"Among his construction projects was the castle of Prény in the centre of the duchy, and the beginnings of the capital city Nancy. Gerhard died (possibly poisoned) at Remiremont about 14 April 1070, while trying to end a revolt. He was succeeded by his son Thierry II. Gerhard was the progenitor of the line of dukes who ruled Lorraine until 1755."
[See Note Per Med Lands]8
; Per Genealogy.EU: "Duke Gerhard IV of Alsace, Ct of Metz, Ct of Chatenois, Duke of Upper Lorraine (1048-70), *after 977, +14.4.1070; m.Hedwig of Namur (*by 1000 +1075/80); for his descendants see http://genealogy.euweb.cz/lorraine/lorraine11.html"
[See Note Per Med Lands].2
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 6:129.8
; Per Wikipédia (Fr.):
"Gérard de Lorraine ou Gérard d'Alsace1, né vers 1030, mort le 11 août 1070 à Remiremont, fut seigneur de Châtenois, puis duc de Lorraine de 1048 à 1070. Les textes de l'époque le désignent également sous les noms de Gérard de Chatenoy - en référence à son titre de seigneur (ou comte) de Châtenois et du château qu'il y possédait - ou Gérard de Flandre - son épouse, Hedwige de Namur, étant aussi nommée Hedwige de Flandre.
"Son père est Gérard IV de Metz († 1045), fils d'Adalbert II de Metz et de Judith von Öhningen, comte de Metz, et selon une charte de 1038 de l'abbaye de Remiremont, comte d'Alsace2. Sa mère est Gisèle de Franconie, qui est probablement la fille de Conrad le Vieux, duc de Franconie et margrave de Vérone, et de Mathilde de Souabe3.
Histoire
"Adalbert d'Alsace, son frère aîné, devenu comte de Metz à la mort de son père, fut investi du duché de Haute-Lotharingie au début de 1047 par l'empereur Henri III, qui venait de le confisquer à Godefroy II. Celui-ci ne s'avoua pas vaincu et tua Adalbert dans une bataille près de Thuin, le 11 novembre 1048. Henri III donna alors le duché à son frère, Gérard d'Alsace, devenu également à son tour comte de Metz.
"Godefroy II continua la lutte, aidé par des seigneurs lorrains qui s'inquiétaient de la puissance territoriale du nouveau duc, et fit rapidement prisonnier Gérard. Mais Gérard était soutenu par Bruno (un ancien évêque de Toul élu pape sous le nom de Léon IX), qui, en voyage en Lorraine, obtint la libération de Gérard en 1049. De plus l'empereur le soutint et lui fournit des troupes qui lui permirent de vaincre ses adversaires. Toutefois la noblesse lorraine continua à plusieurs reprises à créer des troubles contre le duc, soutenue par le clergé.
"Tout son règne fut marqué par la fidélité aux empereurs Henri III, puis Henri IV, et par une collaboration régulière avec l'Église. Il fut avoué de l'Abbaye de Moyenmoutier, de l'abbaye de Saint-Mihiel et de l'Abbaye de Remiremont.
"Il fit construire le château de Prény, ainsi qu'une petite cité en position centrale du duché sur un lieu nommé Nancy. Cette cité se développa et devint la capitale du duché.
"Il résidait habituellement au château fortifié de Châtenois, château dont les fortifications seront détruites par Condé en 16344. Parmi ses biens, certains font partie du patrimoine foncier de l'abbaye de Saint-Denis, notamment au Stoufin, futur Haut-Koenigsbourg5.
"Gérard de Lorraine mourut à Remiremont alors qu'il s'apprêtait à mater une révolte des nobles lorrains, et un empoisonnement n'est pas à exclure6. Il fut enterré dans l'abbaye de Remiremont. Des fouilles eurent lieu au xixe siècle dans la crypte pour retrouver son tombeau mais, les sépultures trouvées étant anépigraphes, elles restèrent vaines.
Descendance
"Il avait épousé Hadwide de Namur7, fille d'Albert Ier, comte de Namur, et d'Ermengarde de Basse-Lotharingie. Ce mariage le rapprocha de la noblesse lorraine (voir l'ascendance de son fils). Ils eurent pour enfants :
Représentations
"Il n'existe à l'heure actuelle aucune représentation contemporaine du duc Gérard Ier de Lorraine. Son sceau n'est pas connu et les monnaies qu'il a frappées ne portent pas son effigie. De plus, l'origine mythique des ducs de Lorraine, faisant de Thierry II le fils de Guillaume de Lorraine (frère fictif de Godefroy de Bouillon) a souvent primé. Pour cette raison, Gérard de Lorraine n'a pas été représenté dans les suites généalogiques des xvie et xviie siècles.
"Aussi, lorsqu'au xviiie siècle, Ferdinand de Saint-Urbain réalisa la médaille qui se rapporte à lui pour son Médaillier de Lorraine, il ne put se servir ni de portraits d'époques, ni de représentations postérieures. À défaut, il fit un portrait de fantaisie s'inspirant des traits de caractères mentionnés par le chroniqueur Jean de Bayon8. En raison de son statut de fondateur de la Maison de Lorraine, le duc fut coiffé d'une couronne de laurier et vêtu à la manière romaine. Cette création de Ferdinand de Saint-Urbain constitua dès lors le portrait canonique de Gérard de Lorraine. Il fut repris par le graveur Carlo Faucci, par le peintre de la Glorification de la Maison de Lorraine ou par les restaurateurs de la Chapelle Ronde de Nancy lorsqu'ils la décorèrent de médaillons à l'effigie des ducs.
"À partir de la seconde moitié du xixe siècle, les représentations de Gérard de Lorraine s'éloignèrent du portrait romanisant de Ferdinand de Saint-Urbain. Dans son recueil de portraits paru en 1854, Jean Cayon le représente en guerrier vêtu à la manière de princes contemporains9. Plus tard, en 1926, le prince d'Hénin-Liétard offrit au prieuré de Châtenois un vitrail commémorant sa fondation par les premiers ducs de Lorraine. Le peintre Pierre-Dié Mallet y représenta Gérard de Lorraine, ainsi que son épouse et son fils, agenouillés devant Saint Pierre, patron du lieu. Le fondateur de la dynastie y est vêtu du riche manteau ducal tandis que sa couronne repose sur un coussin.
Sources
** Gerhard von Elsaß Herzog von Ober-Lothringen (1048-1070) [archive]
** Henry Bogdan, La Lorraine des ducs, sept siècles d'histoire, Perrin, 2005 [détail des éditions] (ISBN 2-262-02113-9)
** Maison de Franconie. Gebhard, comte de Franconie, duc de Lorraine (903-910) [archive]
Notes et références
1. Généalogie de Gérard sur le site Medieval Lands [archive]
2. Gérard de Bouzonville sur la FMG [archive].
3. Gisèle de Franconie est parfois donnée comme fille du duc Thierry Ier de Lorraine, mais rien ne permet de l'affirmer.
4. Jacqueline Carolus-Curien, Pauvres duchesses, l'envers du décor à la cour de Lorraine. Éditions Serpenoise, Metz, 2007. (ISBN 978-2-87692-715-5). p. 9.
5. Georges Poull, La Maison ducale de Lorraine, Nancy, Presses Universitaires de Nancy, 1991, 575 p. [détail de l’édition] (ISBN 2-86480-517-0), p. 21.
6. Il est peut-être mort le 14 avril 1070 (nécrologie de Châtenois) empoisonné, selon la chronique de Jean de Bayon, édition Belhomme dans Historia Mediani in monte Vosago monasterii, Strasbourg. 1724. Pages 255 et 256 : « Dux Lothariensis ambiguis venani signis moritur... ». G. Poull, op. cit. page 22
7. Généalogie d'Hedwige sur le site Medieval Lands [archive]
8. Dom Augustin Calmet, Dissertation historique et chronologique sur la suite des médailles des ducs et duchesses de la Maison royale de Lorraine, Nancy, 1736, p. 25
9. Jean Cayon, Les ducs de Lorraine, 1048-1757. Costumes et notices historiques, Nancy, Cayon-Liébault LIbraire-Editeur, 1854, p. 1-2
Liens externes
** Notices d'autorité : Fichier d’autorité international virtuelGemeinsame Normdatei"
[See Note Per Med Lands].14
; Per Wikipedia:
"Gerard (c.?1030 – 14 April 1070), also known as Gerard the Great, was a Lotharingian nobleman. He was the count of Metz and Châtenois from 1047 to 1048, when his brother Duke Adalbert resigned them to him upon his becoming the Duke of Upper Lorraine. On Adalbert's death the next year, Gérard became duke, a position that he held until his death. In contemporary documents, he is called Gérard of Alsace (after the fact that he had some land in Alsace), Gérard of Chatenoy (after an ancestral castle near Neufchâteau), or Gérard of Flanders (after his wife's homeland).[1]
"He was the second son of Gérard de Bouzonville, count of Metz, and Gisela who was possibly a daughter of Theodoric I, Duke of Upper Lorraine. Henry III, Holy Roman Emperor, invested Adalbert with Lorraine in 1047 after confiscating it from Godfrey III. Godfrey did not back down, however, and killed Adalbert in battle. Henry subsequently bestowed it on Gérard, but the deposed duke continued to stir. Godfrey had the support of a faction of the nobles who did not want a strong hand at the ducal helm and Gérard was imprisoned. Gérard, however, had the support of the chiefest of his bishops, that of Toul, Bruno of Eguisheim-Dagsburg (later the sainted Pope Leo IX), who procured his liberation in 1049. The emperor gave him troops to assist him in his fight, for the rebels had the support of some elements in the church. Gérard himself remained, as his brother had, faithful to the end to the imperial dynasty and his descendants would remain so as well even into the Hohenstaufen years.
"His alliance with the church was regular but inconstant and he afforded his protection to Moyenmoutier Abbey, Saint-Mihiel Abbey, and Remiremont Abbey. The former was the abbey of Cardinal Humbert of Silva Candida, who excommunicated the patriarch of Constantinople, Michael I Cerularius, in 1054, thus precipitating the Great Schism, and the latter was his own final resting place.
"On 18 June 1053, Gérard and Prince Rudolf of Benevento led papal and Swabian troops into battle on behalf of Pope Leo. This was the Battle of Civitate and it was a disastrous loss for the pope. His enemy, the Normans, under Humphrey of Hauteville and Richard of Aversa, defeated his allies and captured his person, taking him prisoner in Benevento. Gerard, however, returned to Lorraine.
"Among his other construction projects, was that of the castle of Prény, in the centre of the duchy, the beginnings of the capital city, Nancy. He died at Remiremont while trying to kill a revolt. Poisoning was suspected. The date of his death is either 14 April or 11 August.
"He was married to Hedwige of Namur (or of Flanders), daughter of Albert II, Count of Namur, and Regelindis of Lower-Lorraine, daughter of Gothelo I, Duke of Lorraine. This marriage helped patch up relations with the baronage. They had the following issue:
** Theodoric II, Duke of Lorraine (c.1055-1115), successor in Lorraine
** Gerard (1057–1108), count of Vaudémont
** Beatrice, married Stephen I, Count of Burgundy, Mâcon, and Vienne
** Gisela, abbess of Remiremont
"He was the patrilineal ancestor of the line of dukes which ruled Lorraine until 1737 and of the Habsburg-Lorraine dynasty that ruled Tuscany (1737–1859), the Holy Roman Empire (1745–1807), Austria-Hungary (1780–1918), the Duchy of Parma (1814–1847), Duchy of Modena (1815–1859), and Mexico (1864–1867).
See also
** Dukes of Lorraine family tree
References
1. Marek, Miroslav. "lorraine/lorraine11.html". genealogy.euweb.cz.[self-published source][better source needed]"
[See Note Per Med Lands]15
; Per Med Lands:
"GERARD, son of GERHARD Graf [von Metz] & his wife Gisela --- (-Remiremont [14 Apr] or 11 Aug [1070]). The Notitiæ Fundationis Monasterii Bosonis-Villæ names (in order) "Adalbertus, Gerhardus, Cuonradus, Adalbero, Beatrix, Cuono, Huoda abbatissa, Azelinus, Ida, Adeleth" as children of "Gerhardus comes [et] Gisela"[2]. In an earlier passage, the same source names "Odelrico comite et Gerhardo duce" as sons and successors of "Gerhardus comes marchio [et] cum uxore sua Gisela"[3]. Comte de Metz, Comte de Châtenois. Emperor Heinrich III appointed him as GERARD Duke of Upper Lotharingia after his brother was killed in battle in Nov 1048. The dating clause of a charter dated 15 Oct 1062, which records a judgment of Udo Bishop of Toul, states “regnante Henrico IV Rom. Rege, Duce Gerardo, Ardulpho Tullensi comite...”[4]. "Gerardus…Lothariensium dux" donated property to Echternach abbey by charter dated 11 Apr 1067 which names "uxoris mea Hadvidis filiique nostre Theoderici…patris mei Gerhardi matrisque meæ Gislæ"[5]. According to the 14th century chronicle of Jean de Bayon, Duke Gérard was poisoned[6]. The Obituaire de Saint-Mansuy records the death "11 Aug" of "Gerardus dux"[7].
"m HADWIDE de Namur, daughter of ALBERT I Comte de Namur & his wife Ermengarde of Lower Lotharingia [Carolingian] ([1005/10]-28 Jan [1080]). The Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi names "Hadewidem et Emmam de Los" as the two daughters of "Ermengardis [filiæ Karoli ducis]" and as mother of "Theodericum ducem et Gerardum comitem fratres"[8]. It is likely that Hedwig was born during that latter part of the married life of her parents, given her own death in [1080] and her father's death before 1010. The Liber Memoriales of Remiremont records the donation of "Haduydis ducissa…consentientibus filiis suis duce Teoderico atque comite Girardo"[9]. "Hadewidis ductrix" founded the abbey of Châtenois by charter dated to after 1075, confirmed "post obitum ductricis Hadewidis" by "dux Theodericus filius eius"[10]. The Codex de l’Angelica records “Haduydis ducissa” donating a serf to Remiremont, with the consent of “filiis suis duce Theoderico atque comite Girardo”, undated[11].
"Duke Gérard & his wife had four children."
Med Lands cites:
Reference: Weis [AR7] line 164-24.16 Gerard IV (?) Graf von Metz, Count of Alsace, Duke of Upper Lotharingia, Count of Chatenois was also known as Gerhard I (?) Duke of Upper-Lorraine.8 GAV-26 EDV-26 GKJ-27. He was Duke of Upper Lorraine between 1048 and 1070.2
Gerard IV (?) Graf von Metz, Count of Alsace, Duke of Upper Lotharingia, Count of Chatenois was buried circa 14 April 1070 at Remiremont Abbey, Remiremont, Departement des Vosges, Lorraine, France (now); From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 1030, Departement des Vosges, Lorraine, France
DEATH 14 Apr 1070 (aged 39–40), Remiremont, Departement des Vosges, Lorraine, France
Also known as Gerard IV, Duke of Alsace. He was the son of Gerard de Bouzonville, count of Metz, and Gisela. He founded Moyenmoutier Abbey, Saint-Mihiel Abbey, and Remiremont Abbey the latter becoming his final resting place. Among his construction projects, was the castle of Prény, in the centre of the duchy, the beginnings of the capital city, Nancy. He died at Remiremont while trying to kill a revolt. Poisoning was suspected. The date of his death is either 14 April or 11 August.
He was married to Hedwige of Namur (or of Flanders), daughter of Albert II, Count of Namur, and Regelindis of Lower-Lorraine, daughter of Gothelo I, Duke of Lorraine. This marriage helped patch up relations with the baronage. They had the following issue:
** Thierry II (c.1055-1115), successor in Lorraine
** Gerard (1057–1108), count of Vaudémont
** Beatrice, married Stephen I, Count of Burgundy, Mâcon, and Vienne
** Gisela, abbess of Remiremont
** Gerard (1057–1108), count of Vaudémont
** Beatrice, married Stephen I, Count of Burgundy, Mâcon, and Vienne
** Gisela, abbess of Remiremont
Family Members
Parents
Gerard De Bouzonville unknown–1047
Gisella De Alsace 1000–1045
BURIAL Remiremont Abbey, Remiremont, Departement des Vosges, Lorraine, France
Created by: Mad
Added: 26 Jan 2013
Find a Grave Memorial 104205608.9
Gerard IV (?) Graf von Metz, Count of Alsace, Duke of Upper Lotharingia, Count of Chatenois died circa 14 April 1070 at Remiremont, Departement des Vosges, Lorraine, France (now); Med Lands says d. "Remiremont [14 Apr] or 11 Aug [1070]."1,2,11,4
; Per Genealogics:
"Gerhard was the younger son of Gerhard de Bouzonville, Graf von Metz, and Gisela, who may have been a daughter of Thierry I, duke of Upper Lorraine. He was the count of Metz and Chatenois from 1047, when his older brother Adalbert resigned these counties to him on becoming duke of Lorraine. On Adalbert's death the next year, Gerhard became duke and was so until his death. In contemporary documents he is called Gerhard of Alsace (after the familial homeland), Gerhard of Chatenoy (after an ancestral castle near Neufchâteau), or Gerhard of Flanders (after his wife's homeland). He and his wife Hadwide, daughter of Albert I, comte de Namur, and Ermengarde/Aleide de Lorraine, had four children of whom two sons, Thierry II and Gerhard, would have progeny.
"Emperor Heinrich III invested Adalbert with Lorraine in 1047 after confiscating it from Geoffroy 'with the Beard'. Geoffroy did not back down, however, and killed Adalbert in battle. Heinrich then bestowed the dukedom on Gerhard, but the deposed duke continued to stir. Geoffroy had the support of a faction of the nobility who did not want a strong hand at the ducal helm, and Gerhard was imprisoned. However he had the support of the most important bishop, Bruno von Egisheim-Dagsburg, bishop of Toul (later Pope Leo IX), who procured his liberation in 1049. The emperor gave him troops to assist him in his fight, for the rebels had the support of some elements in the Church. Gerhard himself remained, as his brother had, faithful to the end to the imperial dynasty, and his descendants would remain so as well, even into the Hohenstaufen years.
"Gerhard's alliance with the Church was regular but inconstant, though he endowed the abbeys of Mourmoutiers, Saint-Michel and Remiremont. Mourmoutiers was the abbey of Cardinal Humbert of Silva Candida, who excommunicated the patriarch of Constantinople, Michael I Cerularius, in 1054, precipitating the Great Schism, and Remiremont was Gerhard's own final resting place.
"In June 1053 Gerhard and Prince Rudolf of Benevento led papal and Swabian troops into battle on behalf of Leo IX. The Battle of Civitate on 10 June 1053 was a disastrous loss for the pope. His enemies, the Normans under Humphrey de Hauteville and Richard of Aversa, defeated his allies and captured Leo, keeping him in honourable captivity at Benevento, Gerhard, however returned to Lorraine.
"Among his construction projects was the castle of Prény in the centre of the duchy, and the beginnings of the capital city Nancy. Gerhard died (possibly poisoned) at Remiremont about 14 April 1070, while trying to end a revolt. He was succeeded by his son Thierry II. Gerhard was the progenitor of the line of dukes who ruled Lorraine until 1755."
[See Note Per Med Lands]8
; Per Genealogy.EU: "Duke Gerhard IV of Alsace, Ct of Metz, Ct of Chatenois, Duke of Upper Lorraine (1048-70), *after 977, +14.4.1070; m.Hedwig of Namur (*by 1000 +1075/80); for his descendants see http://genealogy.euweb.cz/lorraine/lorraine11.html"
[See Note Per Med Lands].2
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 6:129.8
; Per Wikipédia (Fr.):
"Gérard de Lorraine ou Gérard d'Alsace1, né vers 1030, mort le 11 août 1070 à Remiremont, fut seigneur de Châtenois, puis duc de Lorraine de 1048 à 1070. Les textes de l'époque le désignent également sous les noms de Gérard de Chatenoy - en référence à son titre de seigneur (ou comte) de Châtenois et du château qu'il y possédait - ou Gérard de Flandre - son épouse, Hedwige de Namur, étant aussi nommée Hedwige de Flandre.
"Son père est Gérard IV de Metz († 1045), fils d'Adalbert II de Metz et de Judith von Öhningen, comte de Metz, et selon une charte de 1038 de l'abbaye de Remiremont, comte d'Alsace2. Sa mère est Gisèle de Franconie, qui est probablement la fille de Conrad le Vieux, duc de Franconie et margrave de Vérone, et de Mathilde de Souabe3.
Histoire
"Adalbert d'Alsace, son frère aîné, devenu comte de Metz à la mort de son père, fut investi du duché de Haute-Lotharingie au début de 1047 par l'empereur Henri III, qui venait de le confisquer à Godefroy II. Celui-ci ne s'avoua pas vaincu et tua Adalbert dans une bataille près de Thuin, le 11 novembre 1048. Henri III donna alors le duché à son frère, Gérard d'Alsace, devenu également à son tour comte de Metz.
"Godefroy II continua la lutte, aidé par des seigneurs lorrains qui s'inquiétaient de la puissance territoriale du nouveau duc, et fit rapidement prisonnier Gérard. Mais Gérard était soutenu par Bruno (un ancien évêque de Toul élu pape sous le nom de Léon IX), qui, en voyage en Lorraine, obtint la libération de Gérard en 1049. De plus l'empereur le soutint et lui fournit des troupes qui lui permirent de vaincre ses adversaires. Toutefois la noblesse lorraine continua à plusieurs reprises à créer des troubles contre le duc, soutenue par le clergé.
"Tout son règne fut marqué par la fidélité aux empereurs Henri III, puis Henri IV, et par une collaboration régulière avec l'Église. Il fut avoué de l'Abbaye de Moyenmoutier, de l'abbaye de Saint-Mihiel et de l'Abbaye de Remiremont.
"Il fit construire le château de Prény, ainsi qu'une petite cité en position centrale du duché sur un lieu nommé Nancy. Cette cité se développa et devint la capitale du duché.
"Il résidait habituellement au château fortifié de Châtenois, château dont les fortifications seront détruites par Condé en 16344. Parmi ses biens, certains font partie du patrimoine foncier de l'abbaye de Saint-Denis, notamment au Stoufin, futur Haut-Koenigsbourg5.
"Gérard de Lorraine mourut à Remiremont alors qu'il s'apprêtait à mater une révolte des nobles lorrains, et un empoisonnement n'est pas à exclure6. Il fut enterré dans l'abbaye de Remiremont. Des fouilles eurent lieu au xixe siècle dans la crypte pour retrouver son tombeau mais, les sépultures trouvées étant anépigraphes, elles restèrent vaines.
Descendance
"Il avait épousé Hadwide de Namur7, fille d'Albert Ier, comte de Namur, et d'Ermengarde de Basse-Lotharingie. Ce mariage le rapprocha de la noblesse lorraine (voir l'ascendance de son fils). Ils eurent pour enfants :
** Thierry II (v. 1055 † 1115), duc de Lorraine
** Gérard (1057 † 1108), comte de Vaudémont
** Béatrice, mariée à Étienne Ier, comte de Bourgogne, de Mâcon et de Vienne
** Gisèle, abbesse de Remiremont.
** Gérard (1057 † 1108), comte de Vaudémont
** Béatrice, mariée à Étienne Ier, comte de Bourgogne, de Mâcon et de Vienne
** Gisèle, abbesse de Remiremont.
Représentations
"Il n'existe à l'heure actuelle aucune représentation contemporaine du duc Gérard Ier de Lorraine. Son sceau n'est pas connu et les monnaies qu'il a frappées ne portent pas son effigie. De plus, l'origine mythique des ducs de Lorraine, faisant de Thierry II le fils de Guillaume de Lorraine (frère fictif de Godefroy de Bouillon) a souvent primé. Pour cette raison, Gérard de Lorraine n'a pas été représenté dans les suites généalogiques des xvie et xviie siècles.
"Aussi, lorsqu'au xviiie siècle, Ferdinand de Saint-Urbain réalisa la médaille qui se rapporte à lui pour son Médaillier de Lorraine, il ne put se servir ni de portraits d'époques, ni de représentations postérieures. À défaut, il fit un portrait de fantaisie s'inspirant des traits de caractères mentionnés par le chroniqueur Jean de Bayon8. En raison de son statut de fondateur de la Maison de Lorraine, le duc fut coiffé d'une couronne de laurier et vêtu à la manière romaine. Cette création de Ferdinand de Saint-Urbain constitua dès lors le portrait canonique de Gérard de Lorraine. Il fut repris par le graveur Carlo Faucci, par le peintre de la Glorification de la Maison de Lorraine ou par les restaurateurs de la Chapelle Ronde de Nancy lorsqu'ils la décorèrent de médaillons à l'effigie des ducs.
"À partir de la seconde moitié du xixe siècle, les représentations de Gérard de Lorraine s'éloignèrent du portrait romanisant de Ferdinand de Saint-Urbain. Dans son recueil de portraits paru en 1854, Jean Cayon le représente en guerrier vêtu à la manière de princes contemporains9. Plus tard, en 1926, le prince d'Hénin-Liétard offrit au prieuré de Châtenois un vitrail commémorant sa fondation par les premiers ducs de Lorraine. Le peintre Pierre-Dié Mallet y représenta Gérard de Lorraine, ainsi que son épouse et son fils, agenouillés devant Saint Pierre, patron du lieu. Le fondateur de la dynastie y est vêtu du riche manteau ducal tandis que sa couronne repose sur un coussin.
Sources
** Gerhard von Elsaß Herzog von Ober-Lothringen (1048-1070) [archive]
** Henry Bogdan, La Lorraine des ducs, sept siècles d'histoire, Perrin, 2005 [détail des éditions] (ISBN 2-262-02113-9)
** Maison de Franconie. Gebhard, comte de Franconie, duc de Lorraine (903-910) [archive]
Notes et références
1. Généalogie de Gérard sur le site Medieval Lands [archive]
2. Gérard de Bouzonville sur la FMG [archive].
3. Gisèle de Franconie est parfois donnée comme fille du duc Thierry Ier de Lorraine, mais rien ne permet de l'affirmer.
4. Jacqueline Carolus-Curien, Pauvres duchesses, l'envers du décor à la cour de Lorraine. Éditions Serpenoise, Metz, 2007. (ISBN 978-2-87692-715-5). p. 9.
5. Georges Poull, La Maison ducale de Lorraine, Nancy, Presses Universitaires de Nancy, 1991, 575 p. [détail de l’édition] (ISBN 2-86480-517-0), p. 21.
6. Il est peut-être mort le 14 avril 1070 (nécrologie de Châtenois) empoisonné, selon la chronique de Jean de Bayon, édition Belhomme dans Historia Mediani in monte Vosago monasterii, Strasbourg. 1724. Pages 255 et 256 : « Dux Lothariensis ambiguis venani signis moritur... ». G. Poull, op. cit. page 22
7. Généalogie d'Hedwige sur le site Medieval Lands [archive]
8. Dom Augustin Calmet, Dissertation historique et chronologique sur la suite des médailles des ducs et duchesses de la Maison royale de Lorraine, Nancy, 1736, p. 25
9. Jean Cayon, Les ducs de Lorraine, 1048-1757. Costumes et notices historiques, Nancy, Cayon-Liébault LIbraire-Editeur, 1854, p. 1-2
Liens externes
** Notices d'autorité : Fichier d’autorité international virtuelGemeinsame Normdatei"
[See Note Per Med Lands].14
; Per Wikipedia:
"Gerard (c.?1030 – 14 April 1070), also known as Gerard the Great, was a Lotharingian nobleman. He was the count of Metz and Châtenois from 1047 to 1048, when his brother Duke Adalbert resigned them to him upon his becoming the Duke of Upper Lorraine. On Adalbert's death the next year, Gérard became duke, a position that he held until his death. In contemporary documents, he is called Gérard of Alsace (after the fact that he had some land in Alsace), Gérard of Chatenoy (after an ancestral castle near Neufchâteau), or Gérard of Flanders (after his wife's homeland).[1]
"He was the second son of Gérard de Bouzonville, count of Metz, and Gisela who was possibly a daughter of Theodoric I, Duke of Upper Lorraine. Henry III, Holy Roman Emperor, invested Adalbert with Lorraine in 1047 after confiscating it from Godfrey III. Godfrey did not back down, however, and killed Adalbert in battle. Henry subsequently bestowed it on Gérard, but the deposed duke continued to stir. Godfrey had the support of a faction of the nobles who did not want a strong hand at the ducal helm and Gérard was imprisoned. Gérard, however, had the support of the chiefest of his bishops, that of Toul, Bruno of Eguisheim-Dagsburg (later the sainted Pope Leo IX), who procured his liberation in 1049. The emperor gave him troops to assist him in his fight, for the rebels had the support of some elements in the church. Gérard himself remained, as his brother had, faithful to the end to the imperial dynasty and his descendants would remain so as well even into the Hohenstaufen years.
"His alliance with the church was regular but inconstant and he afforded his protection to Moyenmoutier Abbey, Saint-Mihiel Abbey, and Remiremont Abbey. The former was the abbey of Cardinal Humbert of Silva Candida, who excommunicated the patriarch of Constantinople, Michael I Cerularius, in 1054, thus precipitating the Great Schism, and the latter was his own final resting place.
"On 18 June 1053, Gérard and Prince Rudolf of Benevento led papal and Swabian troops into battle on behalf of Pope Leo. This was the Battle of Civitate and it was a disastrous loss for the pope. His enemy, the Normans, under Humphrey of Hauteville and Richard of Aversa, defeated his allies and captured his person, taking him prisoner in Benevento. Gerard, however, returned to Lorraine.
"Among his other construction projects, was that of the castle of Prény, in the centre of the duchy, the beginnings of the capital city, Nancy. He died at Remiremont while trying to kill a revolt. Poisoning was suspected. The date of his death is either 14 April or 11 August.
"He was married to Hedwige of Namur (or of Flanders), daughter of Albert II, Count of Namur, and Regelindis of Lower-Lorraine, daughter of Gothelo I, Duke of Lorraine. This marriage helped patch up relations with the baronage. They had the following issue:
** Theodoric II, Duke of Lorraine (c.1055-1115), successor in Lorraine
** Gerard (1057–1108), count of Vaudémont
** Beatrice, married Stephen I, Count of Burgundy, Mâcon, and Vienne
** Gisela, abbess of Remiremont
"He was the patrilineal ancestor of the line of dukes which ruled Lorraine until 1737 and of the Habsburg-Lorraine dynasty that ruled Tuscany (1737–1859), the Holy Roman Empire (1745–1807), Austria-Hungary (1780–1918), the Duchy of Parma (1814–1847), Duchy of Modena (1815–1859), and Mexico (1864–1867).
See also
** Dukes of Lorraine family tree
References
1. Marek, Miroslav. "lorraine/lorraine11.html". genealogy.euweb.cz.[self-published source][better source needed]"
[See Note Per Med Lands]15
; Per Med Lands:
"GERARD, son of GERHARD Graf [von Metz] & his wife Gisela --- (-Remiremont [14 Apr] or 11 Aug [1070]). The Notitiæ Fundationis Monasterii Bosonis-Villæ names (in order) "Adalbertus, Gerhardus, Cuonradus, Adalbero, Beatrix, Cuono, Huoda abbatissa, Azelinus, Ida, Adeleth" as children of "Gerhardus comes [et] Gisela"[2]. In an earlier passage, the same source names "Odelrico comite et Gerhardo duce" as sons and successors of "Gerhardus comes marchio [et] cum uxore sua Gisela"[3]. Comte de Metz, Comte de Châtenois. Emperor Heinrich III appointed him as GERARD Duke of Upper Lotharingia after his brother was killed in battle in Nov 1048. The dating clause of a charter dated 15 Oct 1062, which records a judgment of Udo Bishop of Toul, states “regnante Henrico IV Rom. Rege, Duce Gerardo, Ardulpho Tullensi comite...”[4]. "Gerardus…Lothariensium dux" donated property to Echternach abbey by charter dated 11 Apr 1067 which names "uxoris mea Hadvidis filiique nostre Theoderici…patris mei Gerhardi matrisque meæ Gislæ"[5]. According to the 14th century chronicle of Jean de Bayon, Duke Gérard was poisoned[6]. The Obituaire de Saint-Mansuy records the death "11 Aug" of "Gerardus dux"[7].
"m HADWIDE de Namur, daughter of ALBERT I Comte de Namur & his wife Ermengarde of Lower Lotharingia [Carolingian] ([1005/10]-28 Jan [1080]). The Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi names "Hadewidem et Emmam de Los" as the two daughters of "Ermengardis [filiæ Karoli ducis]" and as mother of "Theodericum ducem et Gerardum comitem fratres"[8]. It is likely that Hedwig was born during that latter part of the married life of her parents, given her own death in [1080] and her father's death before 1010. The Liber Memoriales of Remiremont records the donation of "Haduydis ducissa…consentientibus filiis suis duce Teoderico atque comite Girardo"[9]. "Hadewidis ductrix" founded the abbey of Châtenois by charter dated to after 1075, confirmed "post obitum ductricis Hadewidis" by "dux Theodericus filius eius"[10]. The Codex de l’Angelica records “Haduydis ducissa” donating a serf to Remiremont, with the consent of “filiis suis duce Theoderico atque comite Girardo”, undated[11].
"Duke Gérard & his wife had four children."
Med Lands cites:
[2] Notitiæ Fundationis Monasterii Bosonis-Villæ IV, MGH SS XV.2, p. 980.
[3] Notitiæ Fundationis Monasterii Bosonis-Villæ I, MGH SS XV.2, p. 978.
[4] Sommier, J. C. (1726) Histoire de l’église de Saint-Diez, E, p. 353.
[5] Beyer, H. (ed.) (1860) Urkundenbuch zur Geschichte der, jetzt die Preussischen Regierungsbezirke Coblenz und Trier bildenden Mittelrheinischen Territorien (Coblenz), Vol. I, (“Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch I”), 366, p. 423.
[6] Poull (1991), p. 22.
[7] Mavot, P. 'L'obituaire de l'abbaye de Saint-Mansuy-lès-Toul', Revue Mabillon XVIII 1928, p. 281.
[8] Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi descendentium Mettensis 4, MGH SS XXV, p. 383.
[9] Hlawitschka, E. (ed.) (1970) Liber Memorialis de Remiremont (Berlin, MGH), p. 53.
[10] Laurent, J. (ed.) (1911) Cartulaires de l'abbaye de Molesme, Tome II (Paris), 119 and 127, pp. 120 and 126.
[11] Didier-Laurent, Abbé ‘L’abbaye de Remiremont’, Mémoires de la Société d’archéologie lorraine, Tome XLVII (Nancy, 1897), p. 390.4
[3] Notitiæ Fundationis Monasterii Bosonis-Villæ I, MGH SS XV.2, p. 978.
[4] Sommier, J. C. (1726) Histoire de l’église de Saint-Diez, E, p. 353.
[5] Beyer, H. (ed.) (1860) Urkundenbuch zur Geschichte der, jetzt die Preussischen Regierungsbezirke Coblenz und Trier bildenden Mittelrheinischen Territorien (Coblenz), Vol. I, (“Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch I”), 366, p. 423.
[6] Poull (1991), p. 22.
[7] Mavot, P. 'L'obituaire de l'abbaye de Saint-Mansuy-lès-Toul', Revue Mabillon XVIII 1928, p. 281.
[8] Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi descendentium Mettensis 4, MGH SS XXV, p. 383.
[9] Hlawitschka, E. (ed.) (1970) Liber Memorialis de Remiremont (Berlin, MGH), p. 53.
[10] Laurent, J. (ed.) (1911) Cartulaires de l'abbaye de Molesme, Tome II (Paris), 119 and 127, pp. 120 and 126.
[11] Didier-Laurent, Abbé ‘L’abbaye de Remiremont’, Mémoires de la Société d’archéologie lorraine, Tome XLVII (Nancy, 1897), p. 390.4
Reference: Weis [AR7] line 164-24.16 Gerard IV (?) Graf von Metz, Count of Alsace, Duke of Upper Lotharingia, Count of Chatenois was also known as Gerhard I (?) Duke of Upper-Lorraine.8 GAV-26 EDV-26 GKJ-27. He was Duke of Upper Lorraine between 1048 and 1070.2
Family | Hedwige (Hadwide) (?) de Namur b. bt 1005 - 1010, d. 1080 |
Children |
Citations
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Hedwige (Hadwide) (?) de Namur1
F, #6612, b. between 1005 and 1010, d. 1080
Father | Albert I (?) Cte de Namur, Ct in the Lommengouw2,3,4,5 b. bt 959 - 970, d. b 1011 |
Mother | Adelaide/Ermengarde (?) of Lorraine6,3,4,7 b. c 980, d. a 1012 |
Reference | GAV26 EDV26 |
Last Edited | 25 Oct 2020 |
Hedwige (Hadwide) (?) de Namur was born between 1005 and 1010.1,3,4 She married Gerard IV (?) Graf von Metz, Count of Alsace, Duke of Upper Lotharingia, Count of Chatenois, son of Gerhard III (?) de Alsace, Count of Metz and Gisele (?) de Alsace.8,9,10,6,11,3,4
Hedwige (Hadwide) (?) de Namur died in 1080; Genealogics says d. 28 Jan 1075/80; Genealogy.EU (Luxemburg 2 page) says d. 28 Jan 1075/1080.12,6,3,4
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 6:129.3
; Per Genealogics: "Hadwide was the daughter of Albert I, comte de Namur, and Ermengarde/Aleide de Lorraine. With her husband Gerhard, duke of Upper-Lorraine, younger son of Gerhard de Bouzonville, Graf von Metz, and his wife Gisela, she had four children, of whom Thierry II and Gerhard would have progeny. Hadwide died on 28 January of a year between 1075 and 1080."
[See Note Per Med Lands]3
; Per Med Lands:
"HADWIDE de Namur ([1005/10]-28 Jan [1080]). The Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi names "Hadewidem et Emmam de Los" as the two daughters of "Ermengardis [filiæ Karoli ducis]" and as mother of "Theodericum ducem et Gerardum comitem fratres"[54]. It is likely that Hedwig was born during that latter part of the married life of her parents, given her own death in [1080] and her father's death before 1010. The Liber Memoriales of Remiremont records the donation of "Haduydis ducissa…consentientibus filiis suis duce Teoderico atque comite Girardo"[55]. "Hadewidis ductrix" founded the abbey of Châtenois by charter dated to after 1075, confirmed "post obitum ductricis Hadewidis" by "dux Theodericus filius eius"[56].
"m GERARD Duke of Upper Lotharingia, son of GERHARD Graf & his wife Gisela --- (-Remiremont [14 Apr] or 11 Aug [1070])."
Med Lands cites:
Hedwige (Hadwide) (?) de Namur died in 1080; Genealogics says d. 28 Jan 1075/80; Genealogy.EU (Luxemburg 2 page) says d. 28 Jan 1075/1080.12,6,3,4
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 6:129.3
; Per Genealogics: "Hadwide was the daughter of Albert I, comte de Namur, and Ermengarde/Aleide de Lorraine. With her husband Gerhard, duke of Upper-Lorraine, younger son of Gerhard de Bouzonville, Graf von Metz, and his wife Gisela, she had four children, of whom Thierry II and Gerhard would have progeny. Hadwide died on 28 January of a year between 1075 and 1080."
[See Note Per Med Lands]3
; Per Med Lands:
"HADWIDE de Namur ([1005/10]-28 Jan [1080]). The Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi names "Hadewidem et Emmam de Los" as the two daughters of "Ermengardis [filiæ Karoli ducis]" and as mother of "Theodericum ducem et Gerardum comitem fratres"[54]. It is likely that Hedwig was born during that latter part of the married life of her parents, given her own death in [1080] and her father's death before 1010. The Liber Memoriales of Remiremont records the donation of "Haduydis ducissa…consentientibus filiis suis duce Teoderico atque comite Girardo"[55]. "Hadewidis ductrix" founded the abbey of Châtenois by charter dated to after 1075, confirmed "post obitum ductricis Hadewidis" by "dux Theodericus filius eius"[56].
"m GERARD Duke of Upper Lotharingia, son of GERHARD Graf & his wife Gisela --- (-Remiremont [14 Apr] or 11 Aug [1070])."
Med Lands cites:
[54] Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi descendentium Mettensis 4, MGH SS XXV, p. 383.
[55] Hlawitschka, E. (ed.) (1970) MGH Liber Memorialis de Remiremont (Berlin), p. 53.
[56] Laurent, J. (ed.) (1911) Cartulaires de l'abbaye de Molesme, Tome II, 119 and 127, pp. 120 and 126.4
GAV-26 EDV-26 GKJ-27.[55] Hlawitschka, E. (ed.) (1970) MGH Liber Memorialis de Remiremont (Berlin), p. 53.
[56] Laurent, J. (ed.) (1911) Cartulaires de l'abbaye de Molesme, Tome II, 119 and 127, pp. 120 and 126.4
Family | Gerard IV (?) Graf von Metz, Count of Alsace, Duke of Upper Lotharingia, Count of Chatenois b. c 1008, d. c 14 Apr 1070 |
Children |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg2.html
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NAMUR.htm#AlbertIdied1011B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hadwide de Namur: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120310&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NAMUR.htm#HedwigMGerardIVAlsaceUpperLdied1070
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Albert I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120949&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 2 page (The Luxemburg Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg2.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Namur, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Namur.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Lorraine 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/lorraine/lorraine1.html#G4
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gerhard: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120309&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Lorraine 1 page (The House of Lorraine): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/lorraine/lorraine1.html
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LORRAINE.htm#Gerarddied1070B
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 164-24, p. 143. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gisela de Lorraine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00163422&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hadwide: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120310&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Lorraine 11 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/lorraine/lorraine11.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf, p. 7.
- [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), Line 164-24, p. 158. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thierry II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026281&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LORRAINE.htm#ThierryIIdied1115
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gerhard: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028162&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LORRAINE.htm#GerardVaudemontdied1108B
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_I,_Count_of_Burgundy. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LORRAINE.htm#Beatrixdied1116
Adolf von Saffenberg Graf von Nörvenich1,2
M, #6614
Father | Herman IV (?) von Saffenberg, Vogt von Cornelismünster, Graf von Nörvenich1,3 b. c 1027, d. 1091 |
Mother | Gepa (?) von Werl1,2 b. c 1014, d. b 1108 |
Last Edited | 8 Apr 2020 |
; Per Med Lands:
"ADOLF, son of HERMANN von Saffenberg & his wife Gepa --- (after 1081). Graf von Nörvenich. Sigewin Archbishop of Köln donated "parochiam...Emba...decimis" to Köln St. Pantaleon by charter dated 1081, witnessed by "Gerardus comes de Guliche, Adolfus comes de Noruenich et frater eius Adelbertus de Saphenberg"[516]."
Med Lands cites: [516] Kremer (1776), Band II, IX, p. 207.2
"ADOLF, son of HERMANN von Saffenberg & his wife Gepa --- (after 1081). Graf von Nörvenich. Sigewin Archbishop of Köln donated "parochiam...Emba...decimis" to Köln St. Pantaleon by charter dated 1081, witnessed by "Gerardus comes de Guliche, Adolfus comes de Noruenich et frater eius Adelbertus de Saphenberg"[516]."
Med Lands cites: [516] Kremer (1776), Band II, IX, p. 207.2
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Cleves 3 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/cleves/cleves3.html
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANCONIA%20(LOWER%20RHINE).htm#AdolfNorvenichdiedafter1081A. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANCONIA%20(LOWER%20RHINE).htm#HermannSaffenbergdiedafter1074B
Gottfried (?) von Saffenberg1
M, #6615
Father | Herman IV (?) von Saffenberg, Vogt von Cornelismünster, Graf von Nörvenich1 b. c 1027, d. 1091 |
Mother | Gepa (?) von Werl1 b. c 1014, d. b 1108 |
Last Edited | 20 Nov 2003 |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Cleves 3 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/cleves/cleves3.html
Adalbert (?) von Norvenich1
M, #6616
Father | Herman IV (?) von Saffenberg, Vogt von Cornelismünster, Graf von Nörvenich2 b. c 1027, d. 1091 |
Mother | Gepa (?) von Werl1 b. c 1014, d. b 1108 |
Last Edited | 8 Apr 2020 |
Adalbert (?) von Norvenich married Gertrud (?)1
; Adalbert von Nörvenich; m.Gertrud N
B1. Adolf von Nörvenich, fl 1108/36
C1. Gf Adalbert von Nörvenich, Gf von Bonn, fl 1149; m.Adelheid von Vianden
D1. Alveradis, Waldgräfin, heiress of Maubach, +by 1221; 1m: Ct William II of Jülich (+1207); 2m: Otto, Herr von Wickrath (+1245.)1
; Adalbert von Nörvenich; m.Gertrud N
B1. Adolf von Nörvenich, fl 1108/36
C1. Gf Adalbert von Nörvenich, Gf von Bonn, fl 1149; m.Adelheid von Vianden
D1. Alveradis, Waldgräfin, heiress of Maubach, +by 1221; 1m: Ct William II of Jülich (+1207); 2m: Otto, Herr von Wickrath (+1245.)1
Family | Gertrud (?) |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Cleves 3 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/cleves/cleves3.html
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Cleves 3 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/cleves/cleves3.html
Sofie (?) von Limburg1
F, #6618, d. between 1226 and 1227
Father | Walram/Waleran IV (?) Marquis d'Arlon, Duke of Limburg, Count of Luxemburg1,2,3,4 b. c 1180, d. 2 Jul 1226 |
Mother | Kunigunde (?) of Lorraine1,5,2 d. 1214 |
Last Edited | 24 Jul 2020 |
Sofie (?) von Limburg married Friedrich II (?) Graf von Altena u. Isenberg circa 1210.6
Sofie (?) von Limburg died between 1226 and 1227.1
Sofie (?) von Limburg died between 1226 and 1227.1
Family | Friedrich II (?) Graf von Altena u. Isenberg d. 1226 |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 8 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg8.html
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LIMBURG.htm#WaleranIVdied1226B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Duché de Limbourg, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Limbourg.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Walram IV: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026504&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Kunigunde von Monschau: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026539&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Cleves 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/cleves/cleves4.html
Friedrich II (?) Graf von Altena u. Isenberg1
M, #6619, d. 1226
Last Edited | 21 Nov 2003 |
Friedrich II (?) Graf von Altena u. Isenberg married Sofie (?) von Limburg, daughter of Walram/Waleran IV (?) Marquis d'Arlon, Duke of Limburg, Count of Luxemburg and Kunigunde (?) of Lorraine, circa 1210.1
Friedrich II (?) Graf von Altena u. Isenberg died in 1226 at Köln, Germany (now).1
Friedrich II (?) Graf von Altena u. Isenberg died in 1226 at Köln, Germany (now).1
Family | Sofie (?) von Limburg d. bt 1226 - 1227 |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Cleves 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/cleves/cleves4.html
Henri I (?) Graf in den Ardenne, Graf von Luxemburg, Duke of Bavaria1
M, #6620, d. 1026
Father | Siegfried (?) Graf 'von Luxemburg'1,2,3 b. c 919, d. 15 Aug 998 |
Mother | Hedwig (?) Countess of Luxembourg1,2,4 b. c 937, d. 13 Dec 992 |
Last Edited | 23 Aug 2020 |
Henri I (?) Graf in den Ardenne, Graf von Luxemburg, Duke of Bavaria died in 1026.1
He was Count of Luxemburg between 998 and 1026.1 He was Duke of Bavaria between 1017 and 1024.1
He was Count of Luxemburg between 998 and 1026.1 He was Duke of Bavaria between 1017 and 1024.1
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 3 page (The Luxemburg Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg3.html
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LUXEMBOURG.htm#Sigefroidied998. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/siegf000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
- [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/hedwi000.htm
Henri III (?) Comte de Grandpre1,2
M, #6621, b. circa 1150, d. 1211
Father | Henri II (?) Comte de Grandpre3,2 b. c 1125, d. bt 1188 - 1190 |
Mother | Liutgard (?) von Luxemburg4,2 b. c 1120, d. b 1170 |
Last Edited | 30 Oct 2020 |
Henri III (?) Comte de Grandpre married Isabeau de Coucy, daughter of Raoul I de Coucy Seigneur de Coucy, Marle and le Fère and Agnes "la Boiteuse" (?) de Hainaut,
; her 2nd husband, his 2nd wife.1 Henri III (?) Comte de Grandpre was born circa 1150.2 He married Ade (Agnès) (?) d'Avesnes, Heiress of Hans, daughter of Jacques (?) seigneur d'Avesnes, Leuse, Conde and Guise and Adelvie/Ameline (?) de Guise,
; his 2nd wife; her 1st husband.5,1,6,2
Henri III (?) Comte de Grandpre died in 1211 at Albigeois.1,2
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 11.1
; her 2nd husband, his 2nd wife.1 Henri III (?) Comte de Grandpre was born circa 1150.2 He married Ade (Agnès) (?) d'Avesnes, Heiress of Hans, daughter of Jacques (?) seigneur d'Avesnes, Leuse, Conde and Guise and Adelvie/Ameline (?) de Guise,
; his 2nd wife; her 1st husband.5,1,6,2
Henri III (?) Comte de Grandpre died in 1211 at Albigeois.1,2
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 11.1
Family 1 | Isabeau de Coucy |
Child |
|
Family 2 | Ade (Agnès) (?) d'Avesnes, Heiress of Hans b. c 1168, d. a 1249 |
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henri III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139791&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avesnes.pdf, p. 4. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henri II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139794&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Liutgard von Luxemburg: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139795&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ade d'Avesnes: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020649&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 3 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders3.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henri IV: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139787&tree=LEO
Konrad I von Luxemburg Graf von Luxemburg1
M, #6622, b. circa 1040, d. 8 August 1086
Father | Giselbert II (?) Graf von Salm, Longwy and Luxemburg1,2,3,4,5,6,7 b. 1007, d. 14 Aug 1059 |
Mother | Unknown (?)8,9 |
Reference | GAV24 EDV24 |
Last Edited | 21 Sep 2020 |
Konrad I von Luxemburg Graf von Luxemburg married Ermensende de Longwy Ctss de Longwy
;
Possibly his 2nd wife.10 Konrad I von Luxemburg Graf von Luxemburg was born circa 1040.2 He married Clemence (?) de Poitou, heiress of Gleibert, Css de Longwy, daughter of Pierre-Guillaume V (VII) "l'Aigret" (?) Duke of Aquitaine, Comte de Poitou and Ermesinde (?) de Longwy, in 1073.11,1,2,12
Konrad I von Luxemburg Graf von Luxemburg died on 8 August 1086 at Palestine.1,2,3
Konrad I von Luxemburg Graf von Luxemburg was buried in 1090 at Altmünster Abbey, Luxembourg, Canton de Luxembourg, Luxembourg; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH unknown
DEATH 27 Aug 1086
Family Members
Children
Ermesende de Luxembourg unknown–1141
BURIAL Altmünster Abbey, Luxembourg, Canton de Luxembourg, Luxembourg, Luxembourg
Created by: Todd Whitesides
Added: 30 Aug 2013
Find A Grave Memorial 116293390.3,13
; Per Genealogy.EU: "Ct Conrad I of Luxemburg (1059-86), *ca 1040, +8.8.1086; m.by 1075 Clementia of Aquitaine, Cts de Longwy (*1060 +1142.)2"
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Wikipedia:
"Conrad I (c. 1040 – 8 August 1086), Count of Luxembourg, was the first count of Luxembourg (1059–1086), succeeding his father Giselbert of Luxembourg.[1]
"He was embroiled in an argument with the archbishop of Trier as to the abbaye Saint-Maximin in Trier which he had avowed.[2] The archbishop excommunicated him and Conrad had to make honourable amends and set out on pilgrimage for Jerusalem to have his excommunication lifted.[2] He died in Italy on the return journey.[3]
"He founded many abbeys:
** the abbaye d'Orval in 1070, with Arnold I, Count of Chiny
** the abbaye d'Altmünster in 1083.[4]
Marriage and issue
"Around 1075 he married Clementia (1060 - 1142), daughter of Pierre-Guillaume VII, duke of Aquitaine and of Ermesinde.[5] They had :
References
1. Gades 1951, p. 55.
2. Gades 1951, p. 54-56.
3. Gades 1951, p. 57.
4. Gades 1951, p. 56.
5. Jackman 2012, p. 51,56.
6. Gades 1951, p. 58.
7. Jackman 2012, p. 65.
8. Gades 1951, p. 59.
Sources
** Gades, John A. (1951). Luxembourg in the Middle Ages. Brill.
** Jackman, Donald C. (2012). The Kleeberg Fragment of the Gleiberg County. Editions Enplage."14
; Per Genealogics: "Konrad I was born about 1040, the son of Giselbert, Graf von Salm und Luxemburg. He succeeded his father as Graf von Luxemburg in 1059. About 1073 he married Clémence de Poitou, heiress of Gleiberg, daughter of Guillaume V-VII, duke of Aquitaine, comte de Poitou, and Ermesinde de Longwy. Of their six children, Wilhelm, Ermesinde and Mathilde would have progeny. Like his predecessors, Konrad was embroiled in an argument with the archbishop of Trier over the income for the Abbey of Saint-Maximin in Trier. The archbishop excommunicated Konrad, who had to make amends and set out on a pilgrimage to the Holy Land. On his return journey he died in Italy on 8 August 1086. Konrad founded many abbeys, including Orval in 1070 with Arnoul I, comte de Chiny, and a Benedictine convent in Münster in 1083."9
GAV-24 EDV-24. Konrad I von Luxemburg Graf von Luxemburg was also known as Conrad I Count of Luxemburg.1,2
; Per Med Lands:
"CONRAD, son of GISELBERT Graf von Salm [Luxembourg] & his wife --- (-in Palestine 8 Aug 1086, bur [1090 Luxembourg Münster Abbey]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comitis Conradis" as son of "Gislebertus comes de Luscelenburch"[158]. Vogt of St Maximin at Trier and of Stablo. He succeeded his father in [1056/59] as Comte [de Luxembourg]. He captured Eberhard Archbishop of Trier, for which he was excommunicated[159]. "Conradus comes" founded the Benedictine abbey of Münster [Altmünster] in Luxembourg, with the consent of "uxore mea Clementia cum filiis et filiabus nostris", by charter dated 7 Jul 1083[160]. He died while on the pilgrimage which had been required before his excommunication could be lifted[161]. He is referred to as "Comes de Luccilinburg" on the seals of Münster abbey, the first of his family to which this title was ascribed[162]. The Chronicon of Bernold records the death in 1086 of "Chonradus comes, frater Heremanni regis" while on pilgrimage to Jerusalem[163]. His tomb at Münster records the death of “comes Conradus...peregrinus sepultus in terra decenter non sua...VI Id Aug” 1086, the return of his body four years later, and its burial in the presence of “conjuge sua Clementia, per manum Adalberonis primicerii Metensis, Henrici comitis, Conrardique comitis...Rodolpho abbate filio comitis”[164].
"There is considerable confusion regarding the wife or wives of Comte Conrad. It is likely that Comte Conrad married twice. Alternatively, he may have had a single wife to whom all the references below refer, although if this was correct she would have had a considerable lifespan considering that Conrad´s grandson by his daughter Mathilde is named in 1087 (see below):
"[m --- de Poitou, daughter of --- [Duke of Aquitaine, Comte de Poitou] & his wife ---. Her marriage and family origin are confirmed by the charter dated 1088 under which "Regina ex prosapia non obscura…comitis Cononis filia qui frater extit Conraldi viri…in itinere Jerosolimitano defuncti, generi nimirum comitis Pictaviensis" donated property to the abbey of Marcigny-sur-Loire for the foundation of the priory of Aiwaille[165]. Fabri identifies "Conradi" as Conrad Comte de Luxembourg, suggesting that "frater" should be interpreted to indicate brother-in-law, the text indicating that Conrad was son-in-law of "comitis Pictaviensis"[166]. If this alleged Poitou origin of the wife of Comte Conrad is correct, the problem is identifying her father. There are few data points to establish the chronology of the family of the comtes de Luxembourg, but it appears likely that Comte Conrad would have been born in [1030/40]. If this is correct, his Poitou wife would most likely have been a granddaughter of Guillaume V "le Grand" Duke of Aquitaine [Guillaume III Comte de Poitou]. Secondary sources have suggested that she was the daughter of Duke Guillaume V´s son, Guillaume VII "Acerrimus/l'Aigret" Duke of Aquitaine [Guillaume V Comte de Poitou]. The thrust of the argument from which this conclusion is drawn is an explanation for the transmission of Longwy to the Luxembourg family: Alberic de Trois Fontaines names the wife of Comte Conrad "comitissa de Longui et de Castris Ermensendis"[167], and Comte Conrad´s daughter of the same name is later recorded as holding Longwy. As the family origin of the wives of the other dukes of Aquitaine/comtes de Poitou is known, the argument proceeds on the assumption that Duke Guillaume VII´s wife Ermesinde is the only possible source from whom Longwy could have been inherited. There are several difficulties with this argument. Firstly, the word "gener", used in the 1088 charter, may have been used in a wider sense in the same way as "frater": for example, cases have been observed in other primary sources where "gener" indicates brother-in-law. Secondly, it is far from certain that the passage in Alberic is factually correct: as noted below, difficulties are suggested by the reference to "Castris", which normally indicates the county of Bliescastel which has not been connected to the wife of Comte Conrad. Thirdly, there is considerable uncertainty over the ownership of Longwy after the death of Comte Manegold in [1040] (see the document UPPER LOTHARINGIA NOBILITY). Fourthly, the mother of Comte Conrad´s daughter Ermensende (who later held Longwy) is confirmed in another charter (see below) as Conrad´s known wife Clémence, although it is of course possible that Alberic simply mistook the name and that Clémence was the heiress of Longwy. In conclusion, there are too many variables in this situation to conclude that the wife of Comte Conrad was the daughter of Guillaume VII Duke of Aquitaine.]
"[m [firstly] ERMENSENDE [Ctss de Longwy], daughter of ---. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comitissa de Longui et de Castris Ermensendis" as wife of "Conrado comiti de Luscelenburch"[168]. "Castris" is normally the Latin name used for Bliescastel (see the document UPPER LOTHARINGIA NOBILITY). No connection has been identified between Ermensende’s ancestors and the family of the Grafen von Bliescastel, although her daughter’s husband was Graf von Bliescastel: maybe Ermensende was the heiress of Bliescastel which she passed to her daughter. Concerning Longwy, according to the Gesta Episcoporum Virdunensium, it was held in the 1140s by Adalbert [Graf von Metz] Duke of Upper Lotharingia: the Gesta names "Albertum de Longui castro, quem…ducem", the text appearing to refer to the duke of Upper Lotharingia who was killed in 1148[169]. If this is correct, it is possible that the wife of Comte Conrad was Ermensende, daughter of Adalbert Duke of Lower Lotharingia. However, no other record has been found of Longwy being in the possession of the family of the Grafen von Metz. Szabolcs de Vajay suggests that the Gesta incorrectly attributes Longwy to Duke Adalbert, confusing him with Albert [II] Graf von Dagsburg, first husband of Ermensende de Luxembourg, daughter of Comte Conrad, who is later recorded as heiress of Longwy[170]. No other indication has been found of the ownership of Longwy during the period [1140/60]. This proposed parentage of the wife of Comte Conrad should be considered as highly speculative. Another possibility is that Alberic misquoted the name of the countess and that Ermensende was an error for Clémence.]
"m [secondly] (before 1080) [as her first husband,] CLEMENTIA, daughter of --- (-after 1141). Her [first] marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 7 Jul 1083 under which "Conradus comes" founded the Benedictine abbey of Münster [Altmünster] in Luxembourg, with the consent of "uxore mea Clementia cum filiis et filiabus nostris"[171]. "Conradus cum uxore mea Clementia" founded the abbey of Münster at Luxembourg, with the consent of "filiis meis Henrico, Conradi et Wilhelmo", by charter dated 1080[172]. The tomb of her husband at Münster records the death of “comes Conradus...peregrinus sepultus in terra decenter non sua...VI Id Aug” 1086, the return of his body four years later, and its burial in the presence of “conjuge sua Clementia, per manum Adalberonis primicerii Metensis, Henrici comitis, Conrardique comitis...Rodolpho abbate filio comitis”[173]. Meginher Archbishop of Trier confirmed the foundation of Kloster Schiffenberg by "Clementia…comitissa" with the consent of "filii sui Willehelmi et filie Irmesindis" by charter dated 17 Jun 1129[174]. It is possible that Clémence married [secondly/thirdly] [as his second wife,] Gerhard [I] Graaf van Gelre. Her supposed [second/third] marriage is confirmed by a second version of the charter confirming the foundation of Kloster Schiffenberg, dated 1129, which records the donation made by "Clementia comitissa de Glizberc…per manum Gerhardi mariti sui comitis de Gelre", with the consent of "palatine comitisse Gertrudis" (identified as Gertrud von Northeim, widow of Siegfried Graf von Orlamünde, Pfalzgrafen von Lothringen, and wife of Otto von Salm Graf von Rheineck) to whom one fourth part of the property belonged[175]. Szabolcs de Vajay dismisses this supposed [second/third] marriage, considering that this second Schiffenberg document is a falsification[176]. However, the language of the document is not obviously anachronistic, the only surprising element being the large number of witnesses. The doubts surrounding the authenticity of these documents is discussed at length by Wyss[177]. "Clementia comitissa de Glizberg cum meis nepotibus Ottone et Wilhelmo" confirmed the foundation of Schiffenberg, with the consent of "domne Gertrudis palatine…[et] Adela filia eiusdem palatine", by charter dated 1141[178]. A highly speculative [second] marriage to --- Graf von Gleiberg is also suggested by the documents relating to Clementia´s supposed [second/third] marriage, because of the two references to her as “comitissa de Glizberc”. No primary source document has yet been identified in which Clementia´s [first] husband is described as “Graf von Gleiberg”. Nor has any record been found of the county of Gleiberg being held by her son by this [first] marriage, Guillaume [I] Comte de Luxembourg, nor by Guillaume´s son Conrad [II] Comte de Luxembourg. One possible explanation is that Clementia was not in fact heiress of Gleiberg, although she is often described as such in contemporary secondary sources, and that she was accorded the title in the 1129 and 1141 as the widow of an otherwise unidentified “Graf von Gleiberg” whom she married after the death of Conrad [I] Comte de Luxembourg. If that is correct, this shadowy [second] husband may have been the uncle or great-uncle of the cousins Otto and Wilhelm who are named above and who would have inherited the title after his death. If Clementia was dowager countess of Gleiberg, maybe continuing to hold part of the county as dower from her [second] husband, this would explain the necessity of her acting jointly with her nephews in the 1129 and 1141 documents."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (Poitou 1): “H1. Clementia of Aquitaine, heiress of Longwy, Frau von Gleiberg, *1060, +4.1.1142; 1m: shortly before 1075 Ct Konrad of Luxemburg (+1086); 2m: Ct Gerhard of Geldern (+1134/37)”.15
; Per Med Lands:
"CLEMENTIA (-after 1141). Her [first] marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 7 Jul 1083 under which "Conradus comes" founded the Benedictine abbey of Münster [Altmünster] in Luxembourg, with the consent of "uxore mea Clementia cum filiis et filiabus nostris"[114]. "Conradus cum uxore mea Clementia" founded the abbey of Münster at Luxembourg, with the consent of "filiis meis Henrico, Conradi et Wilhelmo", by charter dated 1080[115]. Meginher Archbishop of Trier confirmed the foundation of Kloster Schiffenberg by "Clementia…comitissa" with the consent of "filii sui Willehelmi et filie Irmesindis" by charter dated 17 Jun 1129[116]. Her supposed [second/third] marriage is confirmed by a second version of the charter confirming the foundation of Kloster Schiffenberg, dated 1129, which records the donation made by "Clementia comitissa de Glizberc…per manum Gerhardi mariti sui comitis de Gelre", with the consent of "palatine comitisse Gertrudis" [identified as Gertrud von Northeim, widow of Siegfried Graf von Orlamünde, Pfalzgrafen von Lothringen, and wife of Otto von Salm Graf von Rheineck, presumably a relative whose family relationship has not been traced, although see below for some speculation about this] to whom one fourth part of the property belonged[117]. Szabolcs de Vajay dismisses this supposed [second/third] marriage, considering that this second Schiffenberg document is a falsification[118]. However, the language of the document is not obviously anachronistic, the only surprising element being the large number of witnesses. The doubts surrounding the authenticity of these documents is discussed at length by Wyss[119]. "Clementia comitissa de Glizberg cum meis nepotibus Ottone et Wilhelmo" confirmed the foundation of Schiffenberg, with the consent of "domne Gertrudis palatine…[et] Adela filia eiusdem palatine", by charter dated 1141[120]. The documents relating to Clementia´s supposed [second/third] marriage also suggest a possible [second] marriage, because of the two references to her as “comitissa de Glizberc”. No primary source document has yet been identified in which Clementia´s [first] husband is described as “Graf von Gleiberg”. Nor has any record been found of the county of Gleiberg being held by her son by this [first] marriage, Guillaume [I] Comte de Luxembourg, nor by Guillaume´s son Conrad [II] Comte de Luxembourg. One possible explanation is that Clementia was not in fact heiress of Gleiberg, although she is often described as such in contemporary secondary sources, and that she was accorded the title in the 1129 and 1141 as the widow of an otherwise unidentified “Graf von Gleiberg” whom she married after the death of Conrad [I] Comte de Luxembourg. If that is correct, this shadowy [second] husband may have been the uncle or great-uncle of the cousins Otto and Wilhelm who are named above and who would have inherited the title after his death. If Clementia was dowager countess of Gleiberg, maybe continuing to hold part of the county as dower from her [second] husband, this would explain the necessity of her acting jointly with her nephews in the 1129 and 1141 documents. If all this speculation is correct, the consent given in the joint interest in the property in question held by Gertrud von Northeim and her daughter may provide an indication of the family origin of Clementia herself: maybe she was Gertrud´s maternal aunt, a member of the Braunschweig family? [firstly] [as his first wife,] CONRAD [I] Comte [de Luxembourg], son of GISELBERT Graf von Salm, Comte [de Luxembourg] & his wife --- (-in Palestine 8 Aug 1086, bur Luxembourg Münster Abbey). [m [secondly] --- Graf von Gleiberg, son of ---.] [m [secondly/thirdly] [as his second wife,] GERHARD [I] Graaf van Gelre, son of DIETRICH "Flamens" Graf [von Wassenberg] & his wife --- (-before 9 Apr 1138).]"
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"[ERMENSENDE [de Longwy], daughter of --- . [Ctss de Longwy.] The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comitissa de Longui et de Castris Ermensendis" as wife of "Conrado comiti de Luscelenburch"[755]. Ermensende de Luxembourg, daughter of Conrad [I] Comte [de Luxembourg], was later recorded as heiress of Longwy, which suggests an element of factual accuracy in this passage of Alberic. However, there are two other difficulties with the text. Firstly, "Castris" is normally the Latin name used for Bliescastel (see above in the present document) but no connection has been identified between Ermensende’s ancestors and the family of the Grafen von Bliescastel, although her daughter’s husband was Graf von Bliescastel: maybe Ermensende was the heiress of Bliescastel which she passed to her daughter. Secondly, considerable confusion concerning the identity of the wife or wives of Comte Conrad is introduced by other primary sources, which on the one hand indicate that she was related to the family of the Dukes of Aquitaine/Comtes de Poitou, and on the other record that her name was Clémence (who in addition is named in a charter as the mother of Comte Conrad´s daughter Ermensende). The possible identities of the wife/wives of Comte Conrad are discussed in more detail in the document LUXEMBOURG. It is of course possible that Comte Conrad married more than once. Alternatively, it is also possible that he married only once and that all the references to his wife/wives refer to the same person, although the latter proposition would suggest that Longwy somehow passed through the Aquitaine/Poitou family which has not been verified (see a fuller discussion of this point in the document AQUITAINE DUKES). Assuming that Ermensende was Ctss de Longwy, it has been suggested that she was the daughter of Adalbert [Graf von Metz] Duke of Upper Lotharingia (see above). This is based on the Gesta Episcoporum Virdunensium which names "Albertum de Longui castro, quem…ducem", the text apparently referring to the duke of Upper Lotharingia who was killed in 1148[756]. As noted above, there is some doubt about the accuracy of this passage in the Gesta, and in any case no other reference has been found that Longwy ever belonged to the family of the Grafen von Metz. This proposed parentage of the wife of Comte Conrad should therefore be considered as highly speculative.
"m [as his first wife,] CONRAD [I] Comte [de Luxembourg], son of GISELBERT Graf von Salm, Comte [de Luxembourg] & his wife --- (-in Palestine 8 Aug 1086, bur Luxembourg Münster Abbey).]"
Med Lands cites:
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Possibly his 2nd wife.10 Konrad I von Luxemburg Graf von Luxemburg was born circa 1040.2 He married Clemence (?) de Poitou, heiress of Gleibert, Css de Longwy, daughter of Pierre-Guillaume V (VII) "l'Aigret" (?) Duke of Aquitaine, Comte de Poitou and Ermesinde (?) de Longwy, in 1073.11,1,2,12
Konrad I von Luxemburg Graf von Luxemburg died on 8 August 1086 at Palestine.1,2,3
Konrad I von Luxemburg Graf von Luxemburg was buried in 1090 at Altmünster Abbey, Luxembourg, Canton de Luxembourg, Luxembourg; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH unknown
DEATH 27 Aug 1086
Family Members
Children
Ermesende de Luxembourg unknown–1141
BURIAL Altmünster Abbey, Luxembourg, Canton de Luxembourg, Luxembourg, Luxembourg
Created by: Todd Whitesides
Added: 30 Aug 2013
Find A Grave Memorial 116293390.3,13
; Per Genealogy.EU: "Ct Conrad I of Luxemburg (1059-86), *ca 1040, +8.8.1086; m.by 1075 Clementia of Aquitaine, Cts de Longwy (*1060 +1142.)2"
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 172.
2. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels Fürstliche Häuser , Reference: 1955 108.
3. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VI 128.
4. Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: II 28.9
2. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels Fürstliche Häuser , Reference: 1955 108.
3. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VI 128.
4. Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: II 28.9
; Per Wikipedia:
"Conrad I (c. 1040 – 8 August 1086), Count of Luxembourg, was the first count of Luxembourg (1059–1086), succeeding his father Giselbert of Luxembourg.[1]
"He was embroiled in an argument with the archbishop of Trier as to the abbaye Saint-Maximin in Trier which he had avowed.[2] The archbishop excommunicated him and Conrad had to make honourable amends and set out on pilgrimage for Jerusalem to have his excommunication lifted.[2] He died in Italy on the return journey.[3]
"He founded many abbeys:
** the abbaye d'Orval in 1070, with Arnold I, Count of Chiny
** the abbaye d'Altmünster in 1083.[4]
Marriage and issue
"Around 1075 he married Clementia (1060 - 1142), daughter of Pierre-Guillaume VII, duke of Aquitaine and of Ermesinde.[5] They had :
** Matilda (1070 † ), married Godefroy (1075 † ), Count of Bleisgau
** Henry III († 1086), Count of Luxembourg[6]
** Rudolph († 1099), abbot of Saint-Vannes at Verdun
** Conrad, cité en 1080
** Adalbero, (d. 1098 in Antioch), Archdeacon of Metz, travelled to the Holy Land as part of the army of Godfrey of Bouillon, where he was executed by the Turks
** Ermesinde (1075 † 1143), married
** William I (1081 † 1131), Count of Luxembourg, married Matilda of Beichlingen[8]
** Henry III († 1086), Count of Luxembourg[6]
** Rudolph († 1099), abbot of Saint-Vannes at Verdun
** Conrad, cité en 1080
** Adalbero, (d. 1098 in Antioch), Archdeacon of Metz, travelled to the Holy Land as part of the army of Godfrey of Bouillon, where he was executed by the Turks
** Ermesinde (1075 † 1143), married
1. in 1096 to Albert II († 1098), count of Egisheim and of Dagsbourg,
2. in 1101 to Godefroy (1067 † 1139), count of Namur.[7] They were parents of Henry IV of Luxembourg
2. in 1101 to Godefroy (1067 † 1139), count of Namur.[7] They were parents of Henry IV of Luxembourg
** William I (1081 † 1131), Count of Luxembourg, married Matilda of Beichlingen[8]
References
1. Gades 1951, p. 55.
2. Gades 1951, p. 54-56.
3. Gades 1951, p. 57.
4. Gades 1951, p. 56.
5. Jackman 2012, p. 51,56.
6. Gades 1951, p. 58.
7. Jackman 2012, p. 65.
8. Gades 1951, p. 59.
Sources
** Gades, John A. (1951). Luxembourg in the Middle Ages. Brill.
** Jackman, Donald C. (2012). The Kleeberg Fragment of the Gleiberg County. Editions Enplage."14
; Per Genealogics: "Konrad I was born about 1040, the son of Giselbert, Graf von Salm und Luxemburg. He succeeded his father as Graf von Luxemburg in 1059. About 1073 he married Clémence de Poitou, heiress of Gleiberg, daughter of Guillaume V-VII, duke of Aquitaine, comte de Poitou, and Ermesinde de Longwy. Of their six children, Wilhelm, Ermesinde and Mathilde would have progeny. Like his predecessors, Konrad was embroiled in an argument with the archbishop of Trier over the income for the Abbey of Saint-Maximin in Trier. The archbishop excommunicated Konrad, who had to make amends and set out on a pilgrimage to the Holy Land. On his return journey he died in Italy on 8 August 1086. Konrad founded many abbeys, including Orval in 1070 with Arnoul I, comte de Chiny, and a Benedictine convent in Münster in 1083."9
GAV-24 EDV-24. Konrad I von Luxemburg Graf von Luxemburg was also known as Conrad I Count of Luxemburg.1,2
; Per Med Lands:
"CONRAD, son of GISELBERT Graf von Salm [Luxembourg] & his wife --- (-in Palestine 8 Aug 1086, bur [1090 Luxembourg Münster Abbey]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comitis Conradis" as son of "Gislebertus comes de Luscelenburch"[158]. Vogt of St Maximin at Trier and of Stablo. He succeeded his father in [1056/59] as Comte [de Luxembourg]. He captured Eberhard Archbishop of Trier, for which he was excommunicated[159]. "Conradus comes" founded the Benedictine abbey of Münster [Altmünster] in Luxembourg, with the consent of "uxore mea Clementia cum filiis et filiabus nostris", by charter dated 7 Jul 1083[160]. He died while on the pilgrimage which had been required before his excommunication could be lifted[161]. He is referred to as "Comes de Luccilinburg" on the seals of Münster abbey, the first of his family to which this title was ascribed[162]. The Chronicon of Bernold records the death in 1086 of "Chonradus comes, frater Heremanni regis" while on pilgrimage to Jerusalem[163]. His tomb at Münster records the death of “comes Conradus...peregrinus sepultus in terra decenter non sua...VI Id Aug” 1086, the return of his body four years later, and its burial in the presence of “conjuge sua Clementia, per manum Adalberonis primicerii Metensis, Henrici comitis, Conrardique comitis...Rodolpho abbate filio comitis”[164].
"There is considerable confusion regarding the wife or wives of Comte Conrad. It is likely that Comte Conrad married twice. Alternatively, he may have had a single wife to whom all the references below refer, although if this was correct she would have had a considerable lifespan considering that Conrad´s grandson by his daughter Mathilde is named in 1087 (see below):
"[m --- de Poitou, daughter of --- [Duke of Aquitaine, Comte de Poitou] & his wife ---. Her marriage and family origin are confirmed by the charter dated 1088 under which "Regina ex prosapia non obscura…comitis Cononis filia qui frater extit Conraldi viri…in itinere Jerosolimitano defuncti, generi nimirum comitis Pictaviensis" donated property to the abbey of Marcigny-sur-Loire for the foundation of the priory of Aiwaille[165]. Fabri identifies "Conradi" as Conrad Comte de Luxembourg, suggesting that "frater" should be interpreted to indicate brother-in-law, the text indicating that Conrad was son-in-law of "comitis Pictaviensis"[166]. If this alleged Poitou origin of the wife of Comte Conrad is correct, the problem is identifying her father. There are few data points to establish the chronology of the family of the comtes de Luxembourg, but it appears likely that Comte Conrad would have been born in [1030/40]. If this is correct, his Poitou wife would most likely have been a granddaughter of Guillaume V "le Grand" Duke of Aquitaine [Guillaume III Comte de Poitou]. Secondary sources have suggested that she was the daughter of Duke Guillaume V´s son, Guillaume VII "Acerrimus/l'Aigret" Duke of Aquitaine [Guillaume V Comte de Poitou]. The thrust of the argument from which this conclusion is drawn is an explanation for the transmission of Longwy to the Luxembourg family: Alberic de Trois Fontaines names the wife of Comte Conrad "comitissa de Longui et de Castris Ermensendis"[167], and Comte Conrad´s daughter of the same name is later recorded as holding Longwy. As the family origin of the wives of the other dukes of Aquitaine/comtes de Poitou is known, the argument proceeds on the assumption that Duke Guillaume VII´s wife Ermesinde is the only possible source from whom Longwy could have been inherited. There are several difficulties with this argument. Firstly, the word "gener", used in the 1088 charter, may have been used in a wider sense in the same way as "frater": for example, cases have been observed in other primary sources where "gener" indicates brother-in-law. Secondly, it is far from certain that the passage in Alberic is factually correct: as noted below, difficulties are suggested by the reference to "Castris", which normally indicates the county of Bliescastel which has not been connected to the wife of Comte Conrad. Thirdly, there is considerable uncertainty over the ownership of Longwy after the death of Comte Manegold in [1040] (see the document UPPER LOTHARINGIA NOBILITY). Fourthly, the mother of Comte Conrad´s daughter Ermensende (who later held Longwy) is confirmed in another charter (see below) as Conrad´s known wife Clémence, although it is of course possible that Alberic simply mistook the name and that Clémence was the heiress of Longwy. In conclusion, there are too many variables in this situation to conclude that the wife of Comte Conrad was the daughter of Guillaume VII Duke of Aquitaine.]
"[m [firstly] ERMENSENDE [Ctss de Longwy], daughter of ---. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comitissa de Longui et de Castris Ermensendis" as wife of "Conrado comiti de Luscelenburch"[168]. "Castris" is normally the Latin name used for Bliescastel (see the document UPPER LOTHARINGIA NOBILITY). No connection has been identified between Ermensende’s ancestors and the family of the Grafen von Bliescastel, although her daughter’s husband was Graf von Bliescastel: maybe Ermensende was the heiress of Bliescastel which she passed to her daughter. Concerning Longwy, according to the Gesta Episcoporum Virdunensium, it was held in the 1140s by Adalbert [Graf von Metz] Duke of Upper Lotharingia: the Gesta names "Albertum de Longui castro, quem…ducem", the text appearing to refer to the duke of Upper Lotharingia who was killed in 1148[169]. If this is correct, it is possible that the wife of Comte Conrad was Ermensende, daughter of Adalbert Duke of Lower Lotharingia. However, no other record has been found of Longwy being in the possession of the family of the Grafen von Metz. Szabolcs de Vajay suggests that the Gesta incorrectly attributes Longwy to Duke Adalbert, confusing him with Albert [II] Graf von Dagsburg, first husband of Ermensende de Luxembourg, daughter of Comte Conrad, who is later recorded as heiress of Longwy[170]. No other indication has been found of the ownership of Longwy during the period [1140/60]. This proposed parentage of the wife of Comte Conrad should be considered as highly speculative. Another possibility is that Alberic misquoted the name of the countess and that Ermensende was an error for Clémence.]
"m [secondly] (before 1080) [as her first husband,] CLEMENTIA, daughter of --- (-after 1141). Her [first] marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 7 Jul 1083 under which "Conradus comes" founded the Benedictine abbey of Münster [Altmünster] in Luxembourg, with the consent of "uxore mea Clementia cum filiis et filiabus nostris"[171]. "Conradus cum uxore mea Clementia" founded the abbey of Münster at Luxembourg, with the consent of "filiis meis Henrico, Conradi et Wilhelmo", by charter dated 1080[172]. The tomb of her husband at Münster records the death of “comes Conradus...peregrinus sepultus in terra decenter non sua...VI Id Aug” 1086, the return of his body four years later, and its burial in the presence of “conjuge sua Clementia, per manum Adalberonis primicerii Metensis, Henrici comitis, Conrardique comitis...Rodolpho abbate filio comitis”[173]. Meginher Archbishop of Trier confirmed the foundation of Kloster Schiffenberg by "Clementia…comitissa" with the consent of "filii sui Willehelmi et filie Irmesindis" by charter dated 17 Jun 1129[174]. It is possible that Clémence married [secondly/thirdly] [as his second wife,] Gerhard [I] Graaf van Gelre. Her supposed [second/third] marriage is confirmed by a second version of the charter confirming the foundation of Kloster Schiffenberg, dated 1129, which records the donation made by "Clementia comitissa de Glizberc…per manum Gerhardi mariti sui comitis de Gelre", with the consent of "palatine comitisse Gertrudis" (identified as Gertrud von Northeim, widow of Siegfried Graf von Orlamünde, Pfalzgrafen von Lothringen, and wife of Otto von Salm Graf von Rheineck) to whom one fourth part of the property belonged[175]. Szabolcs de Vajay dismisses this supposed [second/third] marriage, considering that this second Schiffenberg document is a falsification[176]. However, the language of the document is not obviously anachronistic, the only surprising element being the large number of witnesses. The doubts surrounding the authenticity of these documents is discussed at length by Wyss[177]. "Clementia comitissa de Glizberg cum meis nepotibus Ottone et Wilhelmo" confirmed the foundation of Schiffenberg, with the consent of "domne Gertrudis palatine…[et] Adela filia eiusdem palatine", by charter dated 1141[178]. A highly speculative [second] marriage to --- Graf von Gleiberg is also suggested by the documents relating to Clementia´s supposed [second/third] marriage, because of the two references to her as “comitissa de Glizberc”. No primary source document has yet been identified in which Clementia´s [first] husband is described as “Graf von Gleiberg”. Nor has any record been found of the county of Gleiberg being held by her son by this [first] marriage, Guillaume [I] Comte de Luxembourg, nor by Guillaume´s son Conrad [II] Comte de Luxembourg. One possible explanation is that Clementia was not in fact heiress of Gleiberg, although she is often described as such in contemporary secondary sources, and that she was accorded the title in the 1129 and 1141 as the widow of an otherwise unidentified “Graf von Gleiberg” whom she married after the death of Conrad [I] Comte de Luxembourg. If that is correct, this shadowy [second] husband may have been the uncle or great-uncle of the cousins Otto and Wilhelm who are named above and who would have inherited the title after his death. If Clementia was dowager countess of Gleiberg, maybe continuing to hold part of the county as dower from her [second] husband, this would explain the necessity of her acting jointly with her nephews in the 1129 and 1141 documents."
Med Lands cites:
[158] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1024, MGH SS XXIII, p. 782.
[159] Gade (1951), pp. 55-6.
[160] Miraeus (Le Mire), A. (1723) Opera diplomatica et historica, 2nd edn. (Louvain), Tome I, Diplomata Belgica, Liber II, XXXV, p. 269.
[161] Gade (1951), pp. 57.
[162] Gade (1951), pp. 56-7.
[163] Bernoldi Chronicon 1086, MGH SS V, p. 445.
[164] Berthelot, J. (1742) Histoire ecclésiastique et civile du duché de Luxembourg (Luxembourg), Tome III, p. 283.
[165] Richard, J. (ed.) (1957) Le cartulaire de Marcigny-sur-Loire 1045-1144 (Dijon) 30bis, p. 26.
[166] Fabri ´La comtesse Reine´, p. 8.
[167] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 851.
[168] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 851.
[169] Laurentii Gesta Episcoporum Virdunensium 2, MGH SS X, p. 492.
[170] Szabolcs de Vajay 'Parlons encore d'Etiennette', Keats-Rohan, K. S. B. and Settipani, C. (eds.) (2000) Onomastique et Parenté dans l'Occident medieval (Oxford), p. 4.
[171] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, Diplomata Belgica, Liber II, XXXV, p. 269.
[172] Vanderkindere, A. (1902) La formation territoriale des principautés belges au moyen-âge (Brussels), Vol. II, p. 357, quoting Bertholot, III, pr. XXXV.
[173] Berthelot (1742), Tome III, p. 283.
[174] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch I, 465a, p. 524.
[175] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch I, 465b, p. 524.3
[159] Gade (1951), pp. 55-6.
[160] Miraeus (Le Mire), A. (1723) Opera diplomatica et historica, 2nd edn. (Louvain), Tome I, Diplomata Belgica, Liber II, XXXV, p. 269.
[161] Gade (1951), pp. 57.
[162] Gade (1951), pp. 56-7.
[163] Bernoldi Chronicon 1086, MGH SS V, p. 445.
[164] Berthelot, J. (1742) Histoire ecclésiastique et civile du duché de Luxembourg (Luxembourg), Tome III, p. 283.
[165] Richard, J. (ed.) (1957) Le cartulaire de Marcigny-sur-Loire 1045-1144 (Dijon) 30bis, p. 26.
[166] Fabri ´La comtesse Reine´, p. 8.
[167] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 851.
[168] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 851.
[169] Laurentii Gesta Episcoporum Virdunensium 2, MGH SS X, p. 492.
[170] Szabolcs de Vajay 'Parlons encore d'Etiennette', Keats-Rohan, K. S. B. and Settipani, C. (eds.) (2000) Onomastique et Parenté dans l'Occident medieval (Oxford), p. 4.
[171] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, Diplomata Belgica, Liber II, XXXV, p. 269.
[172] Vanderkindere, A. (1902) La formation territoriale des principautés belges au moyen-âge (Brussels), Vol. II, p. 357, quoting Bertholot, III, pr. XXXV.
[173] Berthelot (1742), Tome III, p. 283.
[174] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch I, 465a, p. 524.
[175] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch I, 465b, p. 524.3
; Per Genealogy.EU (Poitou 1): “H1. Clementia of Aquitaine, heiress of Longwy, Frau von Gleiberg, *1060, +4.1.1142; 1m: shortly before 1075 Ct Konrad of Luxemburg (+1086); 2m: Ct Gerhard of Geldern (+1134/37)”.15
; Per Med Lands:
"CLEMENTIA (-after 1141). Her [first] marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 7 Jul 1083 under which "Conradus comes" founded the Benedictine abbey of Münster [Altmünster] in Luxembourg, with the consent of "uxore mea Clementia cum filiis et filiabus nostris"[114]. "Conradus cum uxore mea Clementia" founded the abbey of Münster at Luxembourg, with the consent of "filiis meis Henrico, Conradi et Wilhelmo", by charter dated 1080[115]. Meginher Archbishop of Trier confirmed the foundation of Kloster Schiffenberg by "Clementia…comitissa" with the consent of "filii sui Willehelmi et filie Irmesindis" by charter dated 17 Jun 1129[116]. Her supposed [second/third] marriage is confirmed by a second version of the charter confirming the foundation of Kloster Schiffenberg, dated 1129, which records the donation made by "Clementia comitissa de Glizberc…per manum Gerhardi mariti sui comitis de Gelre", with the consent of "palatine comitisse Gertrudis" [identified as Gertrud von Northeim, widow of Siegfried Graf von Orlamünde, Pfalzgrafen von Lothringen, and wife of Otto von Salm Graf von Rheineck, presumably a relative whose family relationship has not been traced, although see below for some speculation about this] to whom one fourth part of the property belonged[117]. Szabolcs de Vajay dismisses this supposed [second/third] marriage, considering that this second Schiffenberg document is a falsification[118]. However, the language of the document is not obviously anachronistic, the only surprising element being the large number of witnesses. The doubts surrounding the authenticity of these documents is discussed at length by Wyss[119]. "Clementia comitissa de Glizberg cum meis nepotibus Ottone et Wilhelmo" confirmed the foundation of Schiffenberg, with the consent of "domne Gertrudis palatine…[et] Adela filia eiusdem palatine", by charter dated 1141[120]. The documents relating to Clementia´s supposed [second/third] marriage also suggest a possible [second] marriage, because of the two references to her as “comitissa de Glizberc”. No primary source document has yet been identified in which Clementia´s [first] husband is described as “Graf von Gleiberg”. Nor has any record been found of the county of Gleiberg being held by her son by this [first] marriage, Guillaume [I] Comte de Luxembourg, nor by Guillaume´s son Conrad [II] Comte de Luxembourg. One possible explanation is that Clementia was not in fact heiress of Gleiberg, although she is often described as such in contemporary secondary sources, and that she was accorded the title in the 1129 and 1141 as the widow of an otherwise unidentified “Graf von Gleiberg” whom she married after the death of Conrad [I] Comte de Luxembourg. If that is correct, this shadowy [second] husband may have been the uncle or great-uncle of the cousins Otto and Wilhelm who are named above and who would have inherited the title after his death. If Clementia was dowager countess of Gleiberg, maybe continuing to hold part of the county as dower from her [second] husband, this would explain the necessity of her acting jointly with her nephews in the 1129 and 1141 documents. If all this speculation is correct, the consent given in the joint interest in the property in question held by Gertrud von Northeim and her daughter may provide an indication of the family origin of Clementia herself: maybe she was Gertrud´s maternal aunt, a member of the Braunschweig family? [firstly] [as his first wife,] CONRAD [I] Comte [de Luxembourg], son of GISELBERT Graf von Salm, Comte [de Luxembourg] & his wife --- (-in Palestine 8 Aug 1086, bur Luxembourg Münster Abbey). [m [secondly] --- Graf von Gleiberg, son of ---.] [m [secondly/thirdly] [as his second wife,] GERHARD [I] Graaf van Gelre, son of DIETRICH "Flamens" Graf [von Wassenberg] & his wife --- (-before 9 Apr 1138).]"
Med Lands cites:
[114] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, Diplomata Belgica, Liber II, XXXV, p. 269.
[115] Vanderkindere, A. (1902) La formation territoriale des principautés belges au moyen-âge (Brussels), Vol. II, p. 357, quoting Bertholot, III, pr. XXXV.
[116] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch I, 465a, p. 524.
[117] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch I, 465b, p. 524.
[118] Szabolcs de Vajay 'Contribution à l'histoire de l'attitude des royaumes pirénéens dans la querelle des investitures: de l'origine de Berthe, reine d'Aragon et de Navarre', Estudios Genealógicos, Heráldicos y Nobiliarios, en honor de Vicente de Cadenas y Vicent (Hidalguía, Madrid, 1978), Vol. 2, p. 386 footnote 40.
[119] Wyss (1899), Abhandlung über die Schiffenberger Stiftungsurkunden und Fälschungen, pp. 411-98.
[120] Heinemann, O. van (ed.) (1867) Codex Diplomaticus Anhaltinus (Dessau), Teil I, 285, p. 211.16
[115] Vanderkindere, A. (1902) La formation territoriale des principautés belges au moyen-âge (Brussels), Vol. II, p. 357, quoting Bertholot, III, pr. XXXV.
[116] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch I, 465a, p. 524.
[117] Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch I, 465b, p. 524.
[118] Szabolcs de Vajay 'Contribution à l'histoire de l'attitude des royaumes pirénéens dans la querelle des investitures: de l'origine de Berthe, reine d'Aragon et de Navarre', Estudios Genealógicos, Heráldicos y Nobiliarios, en honor de Vicente de Cadenas y Vicent (Hidalguía, Madrid, 1978), Vol. 2, p. 386 footnote 40.
[119] Wyss (1899), Abhandlung über die Schiffenberger Stiftungsurkunden und Fälschungen, pp. 411-98.
[120] Heinemann, O. van (ed.) (1867) Codex Diplomaticus Anhaltinus (Dessau), Teil I, 285, p. 211.16
; Per Med Lands:
"[ERMENSENDE [de Longwy], daughter of --- . [Ctss de Longwy.] The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comitissa de Longui et de Castris Ermensendis" as wife of "Conrado comiti de Luscelenburch"[755]. Ermensende de Luxembourg, daughter of Conrad [I] Comte [de Luxembourg], was later recorded as heiress of Longwy, which suggests an element of factual accuracy in this passage of Alberic. However, there are two other difficulties with the text. Firstly, "Castris" is normally the Latin name used for Bliescastel (see above in the present document) but no connection has been identified between Ermensende’s ancestors and the family of the Grafen von Bliescastel, although her daughter’s husband was Graf von Bliescastel: maybe Ermensende was the heiress of Bliescastel which she passed to her daughter. Secondly, considerable confusion concerning the identity of the wife or wives of Comte Conrad is introduced by other primary sources, which on the one hand indicate that she was related to the family of the Dukes of Aquitaine/Comtes de Poitou, and on the other record that her name was Clémence (who in addition is named in a charter as the mother of Comte Conrad´s daughter Ermensende). The possible identities of the wife/wives of Comte Conrad are discussed in more detail in the document LUXEMBOURG. It is of course possible that Comte Conrad married more than once. Alternatively, it is also possible that he married only once and that all the references to his wife/wives refer to the same person, although the latter proposition would suggest that Longwy somehow passed through the Aquitaine/Poitou family which has not been verified (see a fuller discussion of this point in the document AQUITAINE DUKES). Assuming that Ermensende was Ctss de Longwy, it has been suggested that she was the daughter of Adalbert [Graf von Metz] Duke of Upper Lotharingia (see above). This is based on the Gesta Episcoporum Virdunensium which names "Albertum de Longui castro, quem…ducem", the text apparently referring to the duke of Upper Lotharingia who was killed in 1148[756]. As noted above, there is some doubt about the accuracy of this passage in the Gesta, and in any case no other reference has been found that Longwy ever belonged to the family of the Grafen von Metz. This proposed parentage of the wife of Comte Conrad should therefore be considered as highly speculative.
"m [as his first wife,] CONRAD [I] Comte [de Luxembourg], son of GISELBERT Graf von Salm, Comte [de Luxembourg] & his wife --- (-in Palestine 8 Aug 1086, bur Luxembourg Münster Abbey).]"
Med Lands cites:
[755] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 851.
[756] Laurentii Gesta Episcoporum Virdunensium 2, MGH SS X, p. 492.10
He was Count of Luxemburg between 1059 and 1086.2[756] Laurentii Gesta Episcoporum Virdunensium 2, MGH SS X, p. 492.10
Family 1 | Ermensende de Longwy Ctss de Longwy |
Family 2 | Clemence (?) de Poitou, heiress of Gleibert, Css de Longwy b. c 1060, d. 4 Jan 1142 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Konrad I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00064506&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 3 page (The Luxemburg Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg3.html
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LUXEMBOURG.htm#Conraddied1086B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LUXEMBOURG.htm#dauMKunoOltingen
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Giselbert: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00092001&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LUXEMBOURG.htm#_ftnref143
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Luxembourg, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Luxembourg.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN von Salm: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00104732&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Konrad I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00064506&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(UPPER)%20NOBILITY.htm#ErmensendeLongwyAMKonrad
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Clémence de Poitou: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020902&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Poitou 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/poitou/poitou1.html
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 31 December 2019), memorial page for Conrad de Luxembourg, I (unknown–27 Aug 1086), Find A Grave Memorial no. 116293390, citing Altmünster Abbey, Luxembourg, Canton de Luxembourg, Luxembourg, Luxembourg ; Maintained by Todd Whitesides (contributor 47553735), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/116293390/conrad-de_luxembourg. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conrad_I,_Count_of_Luxembourg. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, The House of Poitou: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/poitou/poitou1.html#CG5
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HESSEN.htm#ClemenceGleibergMConradLuxembourg
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde von Luxemburg: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106509&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermesinde: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027096&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LUXEMBOURG.htm#Ermesindedied1141
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LUXEMBOURG.htm#GuillaumeIdied11291131
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Wilhelm: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00165026&tree=LEO
Ade (Agnès) (?) d'Avesnes, Heiress of Hans1,2,3
F, #6623, b. circa 1168, d. after 1249
Father | Jacques (?) seigneur d'Avesnes, Leuse, Conde and Guise1,2,4,5,6 b. c 1150, d. 7 Sep 1191 |
Mother | Adelvie/Ameline (?) de Guise1,2,7,6,8,5 b. 1159, d. 1207 |
Last Edited | 7 Dec 2020 |
Ade (Agnès) (?) d'Avesnes, Heiress of Hans was born circa 1168.2,3 She married Henri III (?) Comte de Grandpre, son of Henri II (?) Comte de Grandpre and Liutgard (?) von Luxemburg,
; his 2nd wife; her 1st husband.1,9,2,3 Ade (Agnès) (?) d'Avesnes, Heiress of Hans married Raoul I de Nesle (?) Comte de Soissons, Chatelain de Noyon, son of Raoul (?) seigneur de Nesle, chatelain de Bruges and Gertrude (?) de Montaigu, before 1223
; her 2nd husband; his 3rd wife.10,1,2
Ade (Agnès) (?) d'Avesnes, Heiress of Hans died after 1249.1,2,3
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III/1 50.1
; his 2nd wife; her 1st husband.1,9,2,3 Ade (Agnès) (?) d'Avesnes, Heiress of Hans married Raoul I de Nesle (?) Comte de Soissons, Chatelain de Noyon, son of Raoul (?) seigneur de Nesle, chatelain de Bruges and Gertrude (?) de Montaigu, before 1223
; her 2nd husband; his 3rd wife.10,1,2
Ade (Agnès) (?) d'Avesnes, Heiress of Hans died after 1249.1,2,3
; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III/1 50.1
Family 1 | Henri III (?) Comte de Grandpre b. c 1150, d. 1211 |
Family 2 | Raoul I de Nesle (?) Comte de Soissons, Chatelain de Noyon d. 1235 |
Child |
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ade d'Avesnes: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020649&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 3 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders3.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avesnes.pdf, p. 4. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jacques d'Avesnes: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020643&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille & seigneurs d’ Avesnes, p. 4; http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avesnes.pdf
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#JacquesAvesnesdied1191. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2121] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 4 Jan 2007: "the house of Avesnes, and the advocates of Tournai"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/RWs6Dh0Y6uw/m/LdZiVfpelkoJ) to e-mail address, 4 Jan 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 4 Jan 2007."
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ameline de Guise: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020644&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henri III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139791&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raoul de Nesle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026381&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Soissons.pdf, p. 5.
Bernhard II (?) Herzog von Sachsen1,2,3
M, #6624, b. circa 995, d. 29 June 1059
Father | Bernard I (?) Duke of Saxony4,3,2 b. 940, d. 9 Feb 1011 |
Mother | Hildegarde (?) von Stade4,2,3 b. bt 974 - 977, d. 1011 |
Reference | GAV25 EDV25 |
Last Edited | 3 Aug 2020 |
Bernhard II (?) Herzog von Sachsen was born circa 995; Med Lands says b. aft 990.5,1,6,2,3 He married Eilika von Schweinfurt, daughter of Heinrich I von Schweinfurt Herzog von Schweinfurt, Markgraf auf dem Nordgau and Gerberge von Hammerstein, circa 1020.7,4,2,3,8,9
Bernhard II (?) Herzog von Sachsen died on 29 June 1059; Weis [1992:131] says d. 1057; Genealogics, Genealogy.EU and Med Lands say d. 29 June 1059.1,6,2,5,3
Bernhard II (?) Herzog von Sachsen was buried after 29 June 1059 at Stadtkirche St. Michaelis, Lüneburg, Landkreis Lüneburg, Lower Saxony (Niedersachsen), Germany; Burial location is from Med Lands and Wikipedia (Eng., Fr. and De.) No record found on Find A Grave.3,10,11,12
; Per Genealogics:
“Bernhard was born about 995, the son of Bernhard I, Herzog von Sachsen, and Hildegard von Stade. He was duke of Saxony from 1011 to his death, the third of the Billung dynasty. He had the rights of a count in Friesia. About 1020 he married Eilica von Schweinfurt, daughter of Heinrich von Schweinfurt, Markgraf auf dem Nordgau, and his wife Gerberge, they had four children of whom Ordulf, Gertrud and Ida would have progeny.
“Bernhard expanded the powers of the duke in Saxony and is regarded as the greatest of the Billungs. He was originally a supporter of Emperor Heinrich II and he accompanied him into Poland and negotiated the treaty of Bautzen of 1018. In 1019-1020 he revolted and gained the recognition of the tribal laws of Saxony, something his father had failed to do. He returned then to war with the Slavs and drew them into his sphere of power and influence through their leader Godescalc (Gottschalk).
“He supported Emperor Conrad II in 1024 and his son Heinrich III, though he began to fear the latter for his closeness to Archbishop Adalbert of Bremen (c.1000-1072), an enemy of a succession of dukes of Saxony.
“In 1045 he erected the Alsterburg in Hamburg. He died on 29 June 1059, and was succeeded without incident by his son Ordulf. He is buried in the Church of Saint Michael in Lüneburg.”.2 GAV-25 EDV-25 GKJ-26.
; This is the same person as:
”Bernard II, Duke of Saxony” at Wikipedia, as
”Bernard II de Saxe” at Wikipédia (Fr.),
and as ”Bernhard II. (Sachsen)” at Wikipedia (Es.)12,11,10
Reference: Genealogics cites:
Reference: Weis [1992:207] line 243A-22.13
; Per Med Lands:
"BERNHARD (after 990-29 Jun 1059, bur Lüneburg St Michael). The Annalista Saxo names "duce Bernhardo, filius eius Bernhardus" when recording his succession to his father in 1011 as BERNHARD II Herzog in Sachsen[330]. As "Bernard Duke of Westfalia", he signed the 1013 document of Heinrich II King of Germany under which the king renewed his settlement of a dispute over Gandersheim, listed first among the lay signatories[331]. The Annalista Saxon records that he rebelled against Emperor Heinrich in 1020, captured "Scalkesburh", but withdrew and was restored to his properties after the intercession of the empress[332]. "Heinricus…Romanorum imperator augustus" renewed the privileges of Kloster Fulda by undated charter, placed in the compilation with other charters dated 1020, witnessed by "Godifridi ducis, Berinhardi ducis, Thiederici ducis, Welphonis comitis, Cunonis comitis, Kunrati comitis, Ottonis comitis, Adilbrahtis comitis, Bobonis comitis, Friderici comitis, Bezilini comitis, Ezonis comitis palatini"[333], the order of witnesses presumably giving some idea of the relative importance of these named nobles at the court of Emperor Heinrich II at the time. Adam of Bremen records the death in 1059 of "Bernardus Saxonum dux"[334]. The necrology of Lüneburg records the death "29 Jun" of "Bernhardus dux"[335].
"m ([1020]) EILIKA von Schweinfurt, daughter of HEINRICH von Schweinfurt Markgraf der Nordgau & his wife Gerberga [von Hammerstein] ([1000]-10 Dec after [1055/56]). The Annalista Saxo names "Eilica…filia marchionis Heinrici de Suinvorde" as wife of "Bernhardus iunior"[336]. The necrology of Lüneburg records the death "10 Dec" of "Eila ducissa"[337]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (Billung): “C1. Duke Bernhard III [sic] of Saxony (1011-59), *ca 995, +29.6.1059; m.1020 Eilika von Schweinfurt (*1000, +ca 1055)"
Per Genealogy.EU (Wittel 19): “D2. Eilika von Schweinfur [sic], *ca 987/1000, +after 1055; m.ca 1020 Bernard II of Saxony (*995 +1059)”.14,15
; Per Med Lands:
"EILIKA ([1000/05][1090]-10 Dec after [1055/56]). The Annalista Saxo names "Eilica…filia marchionis Heinrici de Suinvorde" as wife of "Bernhardus iunior"[1091]. The necrology of Lüneburg records the death "10 Dec" of "Eila ducissa"[1092].
"m ([1020]) BERNHARD II Duke in Saxony, son of BERNHARD I Duke in Saxony [Billung] & his wife Hildegard von Stade (after 990-29 Jun 1059, bur Lüneburg St Michael)."
Med Lands cites:
; NB: There is uncertainty concerning the parents of the Hedwig/Hadwich that Engelbert I married.
Sponheim 1 page says that Engelbert m. Hedwig von Eppenstein (+17.7.1112), dau.of Markwart IV von Eppenstein;
Wikipedia (DE) identifies her as "Hadwig Billung, Tochter des Bernhard II. von Sachsen", citing: Wilhelm Wegener (Hrsg.): Genealogische Tafeln zur mitteleuropäischen Geschichte. Reise, Göttingen 1962–1969, S. 271.
Genealogics just identifies her as Hadwich and shows no parents.
Med Lands discusses the possibility that she was of Saxon origin (see Med Lands note for more detail of this discussion).
Conclusion: For the moment I have Hedwig/Hadwich as the dau. of Bernhard II Herzog in Sachsen, which seems to me to be the best of the proposals discussed in Med Lands. GA Vaut.16,17,18,19,20,21 He was Duke of Saxony between 1011 and 1059.1
Bernhard II (?) Herzog von Sachsen died on 29 June 1059; Weis [1992:131] says d. 1057; Genealogics, Genealogy.EU and Med Lands say d. 29 June 1059.1,6,2,5,3
Bernhard II (?) Herzog von Sachsen was buried after 29 June 1059 at Stadtkirche St. Michaelis, Lüneburg, Landkreis Lüneburg, Lower Saxony (Niedersachsen), Germany; Burial location is from Med Lands and Wikipedia (Eng., Fr. and De.) No record found on Find A Grave.3,10,11,12
; Per Genealogics:
“Bernhard was born about 995, the son of Bernhard I, Herzog von Sachsen, and Hildegard von Stade. He was duke of Saxony from 1011 to his death, the third of the Billung dynasty. He had the rights of a count in Friesia. About 1020 he married Eilica von Schweinfurt, daughter of Heinrich von Schweinfurt, Markgraf auf dem Nordgau, and his wife Gerberge, they had four children of whom Ordulf, Gertrud and Ida would have progeny.
“Bernhard expanded the powers of the duke in Saxony and is regarded as the greatest of the Billungs. He was originally a supporter of Emperor Heinrich II and he accompanied him into Poland and negotiated the treaty of Bautzen of 1018. In 1019-1020 he revolted and gained the recognition of the tribal laws of Saxony, something his father had failed to do. He returned then to war with the Slavs and drew them into his sphere of power and influence through their leader Godescalc (Gottschalk).
“He supported Emperor Conrad II in 1024 and his son Heinrich III, though he began to fear the latter for his closeness to Archbishop Adalbert of Bremen (c.1000-1072), an enemy of a succession of dukes of Saxony.
“In 1045 he erected the Alsterburg in Hamburg. He died on 29 June 1059, and was succeeded without incident by his son Ordulf. He is buried in the Church of Saint Michael in Lüneburg.”.2 GAV-25 EDV-25 GKJ-26.
; This is the same person as:
”Bernard II, Duke of Saxony” at Wikipedia, as
”Bernard II de Saxe” at Wikipédia (Fr.),
and as ”Bernhard II. (Sachsen)” at Wikipedia (Es.)12,11,10
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, Band I, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. 10.
2. Biogr. details drawn from Wikipedia.2
Bernhard II (?) Herzog von Sachsen was also known as Bernard II Billung Duke of Saxony and Elicia. 2. Biogr. details drawn from Wikipedia.2
Reference: Weis [1992:207] line 243A-22.13
; Per Med Lands:
"BERNHARD (after 990-29 Jun 1059, bur Lüneburg St Michael). The Annalista Saxo names "duce Bernhardo, filius eius Bernhardus" when recording his succession to his father in 1011 as BERNHARD II Herzog in Sachsen[330]. As "Bernard Duke of Westfalia", he signed the 1013 document of Heinrich II King of Germany under which the king renewed his settlement of a dispute over Gandersheim, listed first among the lay signatories[331]. The Annalista Saxon records that he rebelled against Emperor Heinrich in 1020, captured "Scalkesburh", but withdrew and was restored to his properties after the intercession of the empress[332]. "Heinricus…Romanorum imperator augustus" renewed the privileges of Kloster Fulda by undated charter, placed in the compilation with other charters dated 1020, witnessed by "Godifridi ducis, Berinhardi ducis, Thiederici ducis, Welphonis comitis, Cunonis comitis, Kunrati comitis, Ottonis comitis, Adilbrahtis comitis, Bobonis comitis, Friderici comitis, Bezilini comitis, Ezonis comitis palatini"[333], the order of witnesses presumably giving some idea of the relative importance of these named nobles at the court of Emperor Heinrich II at the time. Adam of Bremen records the death in 1059 of "Bernardus Saxonum dux"[334]. The necrology of Lüneburg records the death "29 Jun" of "Bernhardus dux"[335].
"m ([1020]) EILIKA von Schweinfurt, daughter of HEINRICH von Schweinfurt Markgraf der Nordgau & his wife Gerberga [von Hammerstein] ([1000]-10 Dec after [1055/56]). The Annalista Saxo names "Eilica…filia marchionis Heinrici de Suinvorde" as wife of "Bernhardus iunior"[336]. The necrology of Lüneburg records the death "10 Dec" of "Eila ducissa"[337]."
Med Lands cites:
[330] Annalista Saxo 1010.
[331] D H II 255, p. 293.
[332] Annalista Saxo 1020.
[333] D H II 427, p. 542.
[334] Adami, Gesta Hammenburgensis Ecclesiæ Pontificum III.42, MGH SS VII, p. 351.
[335] Althoff, G. (ed.) (1983) Die Totenbücher von Merseburg, Magdeburg und Lüneburg (Hannover), Lüneburg.
[336] Annalista Saxo 1059.
[337] Althoff, G. (ed.) (1983) Die Totenbücher von Merseburg, Magdeburg und Lüneburg (Hannover), Lüneburg.3
[331] D H II 255, p. 293.
[332] Annalista Saxo 1020.
[333] D H II 427, p. 542.
[334] Adami, Gesta Hammenburgensis Ecclesiæ Pontificum III.42, MGH SS VII, p. 351.
[335] Althoff, G. (ed.) (1983) Die Totenbücher von Merseburg, Magdeburg und Lüneburg (Hannover), Lüneburg.
[336] Annalista Saxo 1059.
[337] Althoff, G. (ed.) (1983) Die Totenbücher von Merseburg, Magdeburg und Lüneburg (Hannover), Lüneburg.3
; Per Genealogy.EU (Billung): “C1. Duke Bernhard III [sic] of Saxony (1011-59), *ca 995, +29.6.1059; m.1020 Eilika von Schweinfurt (*1000, +ca 1055)"
Per Genealogy.EU (Wittel 19): “D2. Eilika von Schweinfur [sic], *ca 987/1000, +after 1055; m.ca 1020 Bernard II of Saxony (*995 +1059)”.14,15
; Per Med Lands:
"EILIKA ([1000/05][1090]-10 Dec after [1055/56]). The Annalista Saxo names "Eilica…filia marchionis Heinrici de Suinvorde" as wife of "Bernhardus iunior"[1091]. The necrology of Lüneburg records the death "10 Dec" of "Eila ducissa"[1092].
"m ([1020]) BERNHARD II Duke in Saxony, son of BERNHARD I Duke in Saxony [Billung] & his wife Hildegard von Stade (after 990-29 Jun 1059, bur Lüneburg St Michael)."
Med Lands cites:
[1090] Birth date range estimated on the basis of her having given birth to her first child in [1020].
[1091] Annalista Saxo 1059.
[1092] Althoff, G. (ed.) (1983) Die Totenbücher von Merseburg, Magdeburg und Lüneburg (Hannover), Lüneburg.9
[1091] Annalista Saxo 1059.
[1092] Althoff, G. (ed.) (1983) Die Totenbücher von Merseburg, Magdeburg und Lüneburg (Hannover), Lüneburg.9
; NB: There is uncertainty concerning the parents of the Hedwig/Hadwich that Engelbert I married.
Sponheim 1 page says that Engelbert m. Hedwig von Eppenstein (+17.7.1112), dau.of Markwart IV von Eppenstein;
Wikipedia (DE) identifies her as "Hadwig Billung, Tochter des Bernhard II. von Sachsen", citing: Wilhelm Wegener (Hrsg.): Genealogische Tafeln zur mitteleuropäischen Geschichte. Reise, Göttingen 1962–1969, S. 271.
Genealogics just identifies her as Hadwich and shows no parents.
Med Lands discusses the possibility that she was of Saxon origin (see Med Lands note for more detail of this discussion).
Conclusion: For the moment I have Hedwig/Hadwich as the dau. of Bernhard II Herzog in Sachsen, which seems to me to be the best of the proposals discussed in Med Lands. GA Vaut.16,17,18,19,20,21 He was Duke of Saxony between 1011 and 1059.1
Family | Eilika von Schweinfurt b. bt 1000 - 1005, d. c 1055 |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Billung page (Billung family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/small/billung.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bernhard II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020361&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#BernhardIIdied1059. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Billung page (Billung family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/small/billung.html
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 149-22, p. 131. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Wittel 19 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wittel/wittel19.html
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Wittel 19 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wittel/wittel19.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eilica von Schweinfurt: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020364&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAVARIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#EilikaSchweinfurtdied1055
- [S4759] Wikipedia - Die freie Enzyklopädie, online https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hauptseite, Bernhard II. (Sachsen): https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_II._(Sachsen). Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (DE).
- [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Bernard II de Saxe: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_II_de_Saxe. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_II,_Duke_of_Saxony. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 243A-22, p. 207.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Billung Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/small/billung.html
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Wittel 19: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wittel/wittel19.html
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Sponheim 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/sponheim/sponh1.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hadwich: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00080241&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Engelbert I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00080240&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CARINTHIA.htm#EngelbertISponheimdied1096
- [S4759] Wikipédia (DE), online https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hauptseite, Engelbert I. (Spanheim): https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engelbert_I._(Spanheim).
- [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 19 July 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf, p. 4. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#Gertruddied1113
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gertrud von Sachsen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00018661&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 2 page (The Luxemburg Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ida von Sachsen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027129&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#Idadied1102
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Berenger I (?) King of Italy, Emperor of the West, Margrave of Friuli1,2
M, #6625, b. between 840 and 845, d. 7 April 924
Father | Eberhard I (?) Margrave of Friuli3,4,5,6,7,8 b. bt 805 - 815, d. 16 Dec 866 |
Mother | Gisla (?) de Francia3,4,5,7,9 b. c 819, d. a 1 Aug 874 |
Reference | GAV30 EDV31 |
Last Edited | 26 Aug 2020 |
Berenger I (?) King of Italy, Emperor of the West, Margrave of Friuli was born between 840 and 845; Med Lands, The Henry Project, and Genealogics say b. 840/845; Weis says b. 850.10,4,5 He married Bertila di Spoleto Regina d'Italia, Sacra Romana Imperatrice, daughter of Suppo II (?) Duke of Spoleto, Count of Camerino and Bertha (?), circa 880
;
His 1st wife. Genealogics says m. ca 880; The Henry Project says m. say 880x890.10,11,12,4,5,7,13 Berenger I (?) King of Italy, Emperor of the West, Margrave of Friuli married Anna (?) di Provenza, Queen of Italy, Holy Roman Empress, daughter of Louis III "The Blind" (?) Holy Roman Emperor, King of Lower-Bourgogne and Italy and Anna (?) of Byzantium, before December 915
;
His 2nd wife.4,5,14,7
Berenger I (?) King of Italy, Emperor of the West, Margrave of Friuli died on 7 April 924 at Verona, Italy (now); murdered.10,4,5,7
Reference: Genealogics cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 97.4 GAV-30 EDV-31 GKJ-31.
; Per Enc. of World History: "Berengar I, last of the phantom “emperors” (vacancy in the empire, 924-62), was the grandson of Louis the Pious. Raids of Saracens (c. 889) and Magyars (c. 898) into Lombardy; a Saracen stronghold at Freinet controlled the Alpine passes; Saracen settlements in southern Italy, and the Muslim conquest (827) of Sicily; Italian urban life had become almost extinct; the invasions were checked not by the shadowy monarchs, but by the rise of feudal defenders."15
; This is the same person as ”Berengario I” at The Henry Project.7
; This is the same person as:
”Berengar I of Italy” at Wikipedia and as
”Berengario del Friuli” at Wikipedia (It.)16,17
; Per Genealogics:
“Berengar I was the margrave of Friuli from 874 until no earlier than 890 and no later than 896, king of Italy (as Berengar I) from 887 (with interruption) until his death, and Holy Roman Emperor from 915 until his death. His family were called the Unruochings after his grandfather Unruoch, count of Ternois.
“He was born between 840 and 845, probably at Cividale del Friuli in north-eastern Italy, the son of Eberhard I, margrave of Friuli, and Gisla de France, daughter of Emperor Louis I 'the Pious' and his second wife Judith. He was thus of Carolingian extraction on his mother's side. Sometime during his margraviate, he married Bertila of Spoleto, daughter of Suppo II, duke of Spoleto, count of Camerino, thus securing an alliance with the powerful Supponid family. She would later rule alongside him as a _consors,_ a title specifically denoting her informal power and influence, as opposed to a mere _coniunx_ (wife). Their daughter Gisela would have progeny.
“Berengar rose to become one of the most influential laymen in the empire of Charles VI 'the Fat' before he was elected to replace Charles in Italy after the latter's deposition. His long reign of 36 years saw him opposed by no less than seven other claimants to the Italian throne. Though he is sometimes seen as a 'national' king in Italian histories, he was in fact of Frankish birth. His reign is usually characterised as 'troubled' because of the many competitors for the crown and because of the arrival of Magyar raiders in Western Europe. He was the last emperor before Otto I 'the Great' was crowned in 962, after a 38-year interregnum.
“When his older brother Unruoch III died in 874, Berengar succeeded him in the march of Friuli. With this he obtained a key position in the Carolingian empire, as the march bordered the Croats and other Slavs who were a constant threat to the Italian peninsula. He was a territorial magnate with lordships over several counties in north-eastern Italy. He was an important channel for the men of Friuli to get access to the emperor and for the emperor to exercise authority in Friuli. He even had a large degree of influence on the Church of Friuli. In 884-885 Berengar intervened with the emperor on behalf of Haimo, bishop of Belluno.
“Emperor Ludwig II, who was also king of Italy, died in 875 after coming to terms with Ludwig II 'the German', king of the East Franks, whereby the German monarch's eldest son Karlomann would succeed in Italy. Ludwig the German's half-brother Charles 'the Bald' of West Francia invaded the peninsula and had himself crowned king and emperor. Ludwig 'the German' sent first Karl III 'the Fat', his youngest son, and then Karlomann himself, with armies containing Italian magnates led by Berengar, to possess the Italian kingdom. This was not successful until the death of Charles 'the Bald' in 877. The proximity of Berengar's march to Bavaria, which Karlomann already ruled under his father, may explain their cooperation.
“In 883 Guido, duke of Spoleto, was accused of treason at an imperial synod held at Nonantula late in May. He returned to the duchy of Spoleto and made an alliance with the Saracens. The emperor, then Karl III 'the Fat', sent Berengar with an army to deprive him of Spoleto. Berengar was successful before an epidemic of disease, which ravaged all Italy, affecting the emperor and his entourage as well as Berengar's army, forced him to retire.
“In 886 Liutward, bishop of Vercelli, took Berengar's sister from the nunnery of S. Salvatore at Brescia in order to marry her to a relative of his; whether or not by force or by the consent of the convent and Karl 'the Fat', her relative, is uncertain. Berengar and Liutward had a feud that year, and Berengar attacked Vercelli and plundered the bishop's goods. Berengar's actions are explicable if his sister was abducted by the bishop, but if the bishop's actions were justified, then Berengar appears as the initiator of the feud. Whatever the case, bishop and margrave were reconciled shortly before Liutward was dismissed from court in 887.
“By his brief war with Liutward, Berengar had lost the favour of his cousin, Emperor Karl. Berengar came to the emperor's assembly at Waiblingen in early May 887. He made peace with the emperor and compensated for the actions of the previous year by dispensing substantial gifts. In June or July Berengar was again at the emperor's side at Kirchen, when Louis of Provence (the later Louis III, king of Lower-Bourgogne and Italy) was adopted as the emperor's son. It is sometimes alleged that Berengar was pining to be declared Karl's heir and that he may in fact have been so named in Italy, where he was acclaimed (or made himself) king immediately after Karl's deposition by the nobles of East Francia in November 887. On the other hand, his presence may merely have been necessary to confirm Karl's illegitimate son Bernhard as his heir, a plan which failed when the pope refused to attend, and then to confirm Louis instead.
“Berengar was the only one of the _reguli_ (petty kings) to appear in the aftermath of Karl's deposition other than Arnulf von Kärnten, his deposer, who was made king before the emperor's death. Charter evidence begins Berengar's reign at Pavia between 26 December 887 and 2 January 888, though this has been disputed. Berengar was not the undisputed leading magnate in Italy at the time, but he may have made an agreement with his former rival Guido of Spoleto whereby Guido would have West Francia and he Italy on the emperor's death. Both Guido and Berengar were related to the Carolingians in the female line. They represented different factions in Italian politics: Berengar pro-German and Guido pro-French.
“Guido, who had failed in his bid to take the West Frankish throne, returned to Italy in the summer of 888 to gather an army from among the Spoletans and Lombards and to oppose Berengar. This he did, but the battle they fought near Brescia in the autumn was a slight victory for Berengar, though his forces were so diminished that he sued for peace nevertheless. The truce was to last until 6 January 889.
“After the truce with Guido was signed, Arnulf von Kärnten endeavoured to invade Italy through Friuli. In order to prevent a war, Berengar sent dignitaries ahead to meet Arnulf. He himself then had a meeting, sometime between early November and Christmas, at Trent. He was allowed to keep Italy as Arnulf's vassal, but the _curtes_ of Navus and Sagus were taken from him. Arnulf allowed his army to return to Germany, but he himself celebrated Christmas in Friuli, at Karnberg.
“Early in 889, their truce having expired, Guido defeated Berengar at the Battle of the Trebbia and made himself sole king in Italy, though Berengar maintained his authority in Friuli. Though Guido had been supported by Pope Stephen V since before the death of Charles 'the Fat', he was now abandoned by the pope, who turned to Arnulf. He, for his part, remained a staunch partisan of Berengar and had it even suggested that he was creating a Carolingian alliance between himself and Louis of Provence, Charles III of France, and Berengar against Guido and Rudolf I, king of (Upper) Bourgogne.
“In 893 Arnulf sent his illegitimate son Zwentibold, king of Lorraine, into Italy. He met up with Berengar and together they cornered Guido at Pavia, but did not press their advantage (it is believed that Guido bribed them off). In 894 Arnulf and Berengar defeated Guido at Bergamo and took control of Pavia and Milan. Berengar was with Arnulf's army that invaded Italy in 896. However he left the army while it was sojourning in the march of Tuscany and returned to Lombardy. A rumour spread that Berengar had turned against the king and had brought Adalbert 'the Rich', margrave of Ivrea, with him. Its truth or falsehood cannot be ascertained, but Berengar was removed from Friuli and replaced by Waltfred, Berengar's former supporter and 'highest counsellor', but he soon died. The falling out between Berengar and Arnulf, who was crowned Emperor in Rome by Pope Formosus, has been likened to that between Berengar II and Otto I more than half a century later.
“Arnulf left Italy in the charge of his young son Ratold, who soon crossed Lake Como to Germany, leaving Italy in the control of Berengar, who made a pact with Lambert, Guido's son and successor. According to the _Gesta Berengarii Imperatoris,_ the two kings met at Pavia in October and November and agreed to divide the kingdom. Berengar receiving the eastern half between the Adda and the Po, 'as if by hereditary right' according to the _Annales Fuldenses._ Bergamo was to be shared between them. This was a confirmation of the status quo of 889. It was this partitioning which caused the later chronicler Liutprand of Cremona (c.922-972) to remark that the Italians always suffered under two monarchs. As surety for the accord, Lambert pledged to marry Gisela, Berengar's daughter.
“The peace did not last long. Berengar advanced on Pavia, but was defeated by Lambert at Borgo San Donnino and taken prisoner. Nonetheless Lambert died within days, on 15 October 898. Days later Berengar had secured Pavia and become sole ruler. It was during this period that the Magyars made their first attacks on Western Europe. They first invaded Italy in 899. This first invasion may have been unprovoked, but some historians have suspected that the Magyars were either called in by Arnulf or by Berengar himself as allies. Berengar gathered a large army to meet them and refused their request for an armistice. However his army was surprised and routed near the Brenta River in the Battle of the Brenta (24 September 899).
“This defeat handicapped Berengar and caused the nobility to question his ability to protect Italy. As a result they supported another candidate for the throne, Louis of Provence, another maternal relative of the Carolingians. In 900 Louis marched into Italy and defeated Berengar; the following year he was crowned Emperor by Pope Benedict IV. In 902, however, Berengar struck back and defeated Louis, making him promise never to return to Italy. When he broke his oath by invading the peninsula again in 905, Berengar defeated him at Verona, captured him and ordered him to be blinded on 21 July. Louis returned to Provence and ruled for another twenty years as Louis 'the Blind'. Berengar thereby cemented his position as king and ruled undisputed, except for a brief spell, until 922. As king, Berengar made his seat at Verona, which he heavily fortified. During the years when Louis posed a threat to Berengar's kingship, his wife Bertila, who was a niece of the former empress Ingelberga, widow of Emperor Ludwig II and Louis' grandmother, played an important part in the legitimisation of Berengar's rule.
“In 904 Bergamo was subjected to a long siege by the Magyars. After the siege Berengar granted the bishop of the city its walls and the right to rebuild them with the help of the citizens and the refugees fleeing the Magyars. The bishop attained all the rights of a count in the city.
“In January 915 Pope John X tried to forge an alliance between Berengar and the local Italian rulers in hopes that he could face the Saracen threat in southern Italy. Berengar was unable to send troops, but after the great Battle of the Garigliano, a victory over the Saracens, John crowned Berengar as Emperor in Rome (in December 915). Berengar, however, returned swiftly to the north were Friuli was still threatened by the Magyars.
“In his later years his wife Bertila was charged with infidelity, a charge not uncommon against wives of declining kings of that period. She was poisoned. He had remarried a lady named Anna by December 915. By then Berengar's elder daughter Bertha was abbess of San Salvatore in Brescia, where her aunt had once been a nun. In that year, the following year, and in 917, Berengar endowed her monastery with three privileges to build or man fortifications. His younger daughter Gisela had married Adalbert 'the Rich', margrave of Ivrea, about 900, but this failed to spark an alliance with the Anscarids. She was dead by 913, when Adalbert remarried. Adalbert was one of Berengar's earliest internal enemies after the defeat of Louis of Provence. He called on Hugo of Arles between 917 and 920 to take the Iron Crown. Hugo did invade Italy with his brother Boso, margrave of Tuscany, and advanced as far as Pavia, where Berengar starved him into submission but allowed him to pass out of Italy freely.
“Dissatisfied with the emperor, who had ceased his policy of grants and family alliances in favour of paying Magyar mercenaries, several Italian nobles - led by Adalbert and many of the bishops - invited Rudolf II, king of Upper Burgundy, to take the Italian throne in 921. Moreover his own grandson, Berengar II of Ivrea, rose up against him, incited by Rudolf. Berengar retreated to Verona and had to watch sidelined as the Magyars pillaged the country. John, bishop of Pavia, surrendered his city to Rudolf in 922 and it was sacked by the Magyars in 924. On 29 July 923 the forces of Rudolf II, Adalbert and Berengar II of Ivrea met those of Berengar and defeated him in the Battle of Fiorenzuola, near Piacenza. The battle was decisive and Berengar was de facto dethroned and replaced by Rudolf. Berengar was soon after murdered at Verona by one of his own men on 7 April 924, possibly at Rudolf's instigation. He left no sons, only his remaining daughter Bertha, and an anonymous epic poem, the _Gesta Berengarii Imperatoris,_ about the many happenings of his troublesome reign.”.4 Berenger I (?) King of Italy, Emperor of the West, Margrave of Friuli was also known as Berengario I (?) King of Italy, Emperor of the West, Margrave of Friuli.7
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"BERENGAR ([840/45]-murdered Verona 7 Apr 924). The Historia Ecclesiæ Cisoniensis records the testament of “Evrardus comes cum coniuge mea Gisla”, which bequeathes property “cortem in Anaspio…præter Grecinam et cortem nostrum Hildiolam in Hasbannis…et…in pago Condustrim” to “secundus…Berengarius”[279]. The Chronica Mon. Casinensis names "Berengarius Foroiulensis, filius Everardi marchionis Italiæ"[280]. "Gisle" granted "le fisc de Somain en Ostrevant" to "filii…Adelarde" by charter dated 14 Apr 869, which names "rex Karolus meus…germanus…senioris mei dulcis memorie Evrardi…tres infantes meos Rodulfum…et Berengarium…et…Adelarde"[281]. "Gisle" donated property to Cysoing for the anniversaries of "Ludovico imperatore patre meo et…Judith imperatrice matre mea et…rege Karolo…germano et…prole mea…Hengeltrude, Hunroc, Berengario, Adelardo, Rodulpho, Hellwich, Gilla, Judith" by charter dated to [874][282]. He succeeded his brother in 874 as BERENGARIO I Marchese di Friulia. The Gesta regum Francorum records "Berengarius…consanguineus imperator" being sent to expel "Wito comes Tuscianorum" in 883[283]. He was elected in 888 as BERENGARIO I King of Italy, supported principally by the German faction in Italy. "Berengarius rex" confirmed grants of property to "Angilbergæ…imperatrici", at the request of "…Vualfredus…marchio", by charter dated 8 May 888[284]. He was defeated by Guido of Spoleto in 889. He re-emerged as sole king in Italy in 898 after the death of Lambert of Spoleto. Louis King of Provence was elected as king of Italy in 900, with support particularly from Anscario Marchese d'Ivrea. Berengario defeated Louis twice, the second time conclusively in 905 when he had his rival blinded. He was crowned Emperor BERENGAR at Rome in 916. He allied himself with the Hungarians to defeat Rudolf II King of Upper Burgundy, who emerged as another rival candidate for the Italian throne, but was later forced back to Verona by Rudolf, and finally defeated by him at Firenzuola 29 Jul 923. Berengario returned to Verona with the intention of calling for further help from the Hungarians, who meanwhile had burned Pavia. He was murdered at Verona soon after.
"m firstly ([880/3 Nov 890]) BERTILA di Spoleto, daughter of SUPPO II Duke of Spoleto & his wife --- (-executed before Dec 915). "Berengarius rex" confirmed grants of property "Mercoriatico in territorio [comitatu] Regiensi" to "Iohanne presbiter", at the request of "Berchtilæ…coniugis et consortis regni nostri", by charter dated 3 Nov 890[285]. Berengario I King of Italy "conjugis nostreque Regni consortis Berchtile" granted property "in comitatu Veronense" to "Anselmo…Comite, nostroque Compatre et Consiliario" by charter dated 26 Jul 910[286]. The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. She was executed for alleged adultery.
"m secondly (before Dec 915) ANNA, daughter of --- (-after May 930). "Berengarius…rex" granted "mansum in villa Evurio…de comitatu Oxilense de corticella…Beura" to "fideli nostro…Hervino nepoti…Dagiberti episcopi", at the request of "Anna…coniuncx nostram", by charter dated to [915][287]. Her marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 920 under which "Berengarius…Imperator Augustus" granted "curtem…de Prato Plano finibus Placentinis" to "Annæ…coniugi nostræ"[288]."
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"BERTILA (-executed before Dec 915). The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. "Berengarius rex" confirmed grants of property "Mercoriatico in territorio [comitatu] Regiensi" to "Iohanne presbiter", at the request of "Berchtilæ…coniugis et consortis regni nostri", by charter dated 3 Nov 890[912]. Berengario I King of Italy "conjugis nostreque Regni consortis Berchtile" granted property "in comitatu Veronense" to "Anselmo…Comite, nostroque Compatre et Consiliario" by charter dated 26 Jul 910[913]. She was executed for alleged adultery.
"m ([880/3 Nov 890]) as his first wife, BERENGARIO [I] Marchese of Friulia, son of EBERHARD Marchese of Friulia & his wife Gisela [Carolingian] ([840/45]-murdered Verona 7 Apr 924). "
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See attached map of empire ruled by Berengar I ca 915 (from Wikipedia: By Trasamundo - Own work, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=9778961) between 915 and 924.10,17,18,7
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His 1st wife. Genealogics says m. ca 880; The Henry Project says m. say 880x890.10,11,12,4,5,7,13 Berenger I (?) King of Italy, Emperor of the West, Margrave of Friuli married Anna (?) di Provenza, Queen of Italy, Holy Roman Empress, daughter of Louis III "The Blind" (?) Holy Roman Emperor, King of Lower-Bourgogne and Italy and Anna (?) of Byzantium, before December 915
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His 2nd wife.4,5,14,7
Berenger I (?) King of Italy, Emperor of the West, Margrave of Friuli died on 7 April 924 at Verona, Italy (now); murdered.10,4,5,7
Reference: Genealogics cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 97.4 GAV-30 EDV-31 GKJ-31.
; Per Enc. of World History: "Berengar I, last of the phantom “emperors” (vacancy in the empire, 924-62), was the grandson of Louis the Pious. Raids of Saracens (c. 889) and Magyars (c. 898) into Lombardy; a Saracen stronghold at Freinet controlled the Alpine passes; Saracen settlements in southern Italy, and the Muslim conquest (827) of Sicily; Italian urban life had become almost extinct; the invasions were checked not by the shadowy monarchs, but by the rise of feudal defenders."15
; This is the same person as ”Berengario I” at The Henry Project.7
; This is the same person as:
”Berengar I of Italy” at Wikipedia and as
”Berengario del Friuli” at Wikipedia (It.)16,17
; Per Genealogics:
“Berengar I was the margrave of Friuli from 874 until no earlier than 890 and no later than 896, king of Italy (as Berengar I) from 887 (with interruption) until his death, and Holy Roman Emperor from 915 until his death. His family were called the Unruochings after his grandfather Unruoch, count of Ternois.
“He was born between 840 and 845, probably at Cividale del Friuli in north-eastern Italy, the son of Eberhard I, margrave of Friuli, and Gisla de France, daughter of Emperor Louis I 'the Pious' and his second wife Judith. He was thus of Carolingian extraction on his mother's side. Sometime during his margraviate, he married Bertila of Spoleto, daughter of Suppo II, duke of Spoleto, count of Camerino, thus securing an alliance with the powerful Supponid family. She would later rule alongside him as a _consors,_ a title specifically denoting her informal power and influence, as opposed to a mere _coniunx_ (wife). Their daughter Gisela would have progeny.
“Berengar rose to become one of the most influential laymen in the empire of Charles VI 'the Fat' before he was elected to replace Charles in Italy after the latter's deposition. His long reign of 36 years saw him opposed by no less than seven other claimants to the Italian throne. Though he is sometimes seen as a 'national' king in Italian histories, he was in fact of Frankish birth. His reign is usually characterised as 'troubled' because of the many competitors for the crown and because of the arrival of Magyar raiders in Western Europe. He was the last emperor before Otto I 'the Great' was crowned in 962, after a 38-year interregnum.
“When his older brother Unruoch III died in 874, Berengar succeeded him in the march of Friuli. With this he obtained a key position in the Carolingian empire, as the march bordered the Croats and other Slavs who were a constant threat to the Italian peninsula. He was a territorial magnate with lordships over several counties in north-eastern Italy. He was an important channel for the men of Friuli to get access to the emperor and for the emperor to exercise authority in Friuli. He even had a large degree of influence on the Church of Friuli. In 884-885 Berengar intervened with the emperor on behalf of Haimo, bishop of Belluno.
“Emperor Ludwig II, who was also king of Italy, died in 875 after coming to terms with Ludwig II 'the German', king of the East Franks, whereby the German monarch's eldest son Karlomann would succeed in Italy. Ludwig the German's half-brother Charles 'the Bald' of West Francia invaded the peninsula and had himself crowned king and emperor. Ludwig 'the German' sent first Karl III 'the Fat', his youngest son, and then Karlomann himself, with armies containing Italian magnates led by Berengar, to possess the Italian kingdom. This was not successful until the death of Charles 'the Bald' in 877. The proximity of Berengar's march to Bavaria, which Karlomann already ruled under his father, may explain their cooperation.
“In 883 Guido, duke of Spoleto, was accused of treason at an imperial synod held at Nonantula late in May. He returned to the duchy of Spoleto and made an alliance with the Saracens. The emperor, then Karl III 'the Fat', sent Berengar with an army to deprive him of Spoleto. Berengar was successful before an epidemic of disease, which ravaged all Italy, affecting the emperor and his entourage as well as Berengar's army, forced him to retire.
“In 886 Liutward, bishop of Vercelli, took Berengar's sister from the nunnery of S. Salvatore at Brescia in order to marry her to a relative of his; whether or not by force or by the consent of the convent and Karl 'the Fat', her relative, is uncertain. Berengar and Liutward had a feud that year, and Berengar attacked Vercelli and plundered the bishop's goods. Berengar's actions are explicable if his sister was abducted by the bishop, but if the bishop's actions were justified, then Berengar appears as the initiator of the feud. Whatever the case, bishop and margrave were reconciled shortly before Liutward was dismissed from court in 887.
“By his brief war with Liutward, Berengar had lost the favour of his cousin, Emperor Karl. Berengar came to the emperor's assembly at Waiblingen in early May 887. He made peace with the emperor and compensated for the actions of the previous year by dispensing substantial gifts. In June or July Berengar was again at the emperor's side at Kirchen, when Louis of Provence (the later Louis III, king of Lower-Bourgogne and Italy) was adopted as the emperor's son. It is sometimes alleged that Berengar was pining to be declared Karl's heir and that he may in fact have been so named in Italy, where he was acclaimed (or made himself) king immediately after Karl's deposition by the nobles of East Francia in November 887. On the other hand, his presence may merely have been necessary to confirm Karl's illegitimate son Bernhard as his heir, a plan which failed when the pope refused to attend, and then to confirm Louis instead.
“Berengar was the only one of the _reguli_ (petty kings) to appear in the aftermath of Karl's deposition other than Arnulf von Kärnten, his deposer, who was made king before the emperor's death. Charter evidence begins Berengar's reign at Pavia between 26 December 887 and 2 January 888, though this has been disputed. Berengar was not the undisputed leading magnate in Italy at the time, but he may have made an agreement with his former rival Guido of Spoleto whereby Guido would have West Francia and he Italy on the emperor's death. Both Guido and Berengar were related to the Carolingians in the female line. They represented different factions in Italian politics: Berengar pro-German and Guido pro-French.
“Guido, who had failed in his bid to take the West Frankish throne, returned to Italy in the summer of 888 to gather an army from among the Spoletans and Lombards and to oppose Berengar. This he did, but the battle they fought near Brescia in the autumn was a slight victory for Berengar, though his forces were so diminished that he sued for peace nevertheless. The truce was to last until 6 January 889.
“After the truce with Guido was signed, Arnulf von Kärnten endeavoured to invade Italy through Friuli. In order to prevent a war, Berengar sent dignitaries ahead to meet Arnulf. He himself then had a meeting, sometime between early November and Christmas, at Trent. He was allowed to keep Italy as Arnulf's vassal, but the _curtes_ of Navus and Sagus were taken from him. Arnulf allowed his army to return to Germany, but he himself celebrated Christmas in Friuli, at Karnberg.
“Early in 889, their truce having expired, Guido defeated Berengar at the Battle of the Trebbia and made himself sole king in Italy, though Berengar maintained his authority in Friuli. Though Guido had been supported by Pope Stephen V since before the death of Charles 'the Fat', he was now abandoned by the pope, who turned to Arnulf. He, for his part, remained a staunch partisan of Berengar and had it even suggested that he was creating a Carolingian alliance between himself and Louis of Provence, Charles III of France, and Berengar against Guido and Rudolf I, king of (Upper) Bourgogne.
“In 893 Arnulf sent his illegitimate son Zwentibold, king of Lorraine, into Italy. He met up with Berengar and together they cornered Guido at Pavia, but did not press their advantage (it is believed that Guido bribed them off). In 894 Arnulf and Berengar defeated Guido at Bergamo and took control of Pavia and Milan. Berengar was with Arnulf's army that invaded Italy in 896. However he left the army while it was sojourning in the march of Tuscany and returned to Lombardy. A rumour spread that Berengar had turned against the king and had brought Adalbert 'the Rich', margrave of Ivrea, with him. Its truth or falsehood cannot be ascertained, but Berengar was removed from Friuli and replaced by Waltfred, Berengar's former supporter and 'highest counsellor', but he soon died. The falling out between Berengar and Arnulf, who was crowned Emperor in Rome by Pope Formosus, has been likened to that between Berengar II and Otto I more than half a century later.
“Arnulf left Italy in the charge of his young son Ratold, who soon crossed Lake Como to Germany, leaving Italy in the control of Berengar, who made a pact with Lambert, Guido's son and successor. According to the _Gesta Berengarii Imperatoris,_ the two kings met at Pavia in October and November and agreed to divide the kingdom. Berengar receiving the eastern half between the Adda and the Po, 'as if by hereditary right' according to the _Annales Fuldenses._ Bergamo was to be shared between them. This was a confirmation of the status quo of 889. It was this partitioning which caused the later chronicler Liutprand of Cremona (c.922-972) to remark that the Italians always suffered under two monarchs. As surety for the accord, Lambert pledged to marry Gisela, Berengar's daughter.
“The peace did not last long. Berengar advanced on Pavia, but was defeated by Lambert at Borgo San Donnino and taken prisoner. Nonetheless Lambert died within days, on 15 October 898. Days later Berengar had secured Pavia and become sole ruler. It was during this period that the Magyars made their first attacks on Western Europe. They first invaded Italy in 899. This first invasion may have been unprovoked, but some historians have suspected that the Magyars were either called in by Arnulf or by Berengar himself as allies. Berengar gathered a large army to meet them and refused their request for an armistice. However his army was surprised and routed near the Brenta River in the Battle of the Brenta (24 September 899).
“This defeat handicapped Berengar and caused the nobility to question his ability to protect Italy. As a result they supported another candidate for the throne, Louis of Provence, another maternal relative of the Carolingians. In 900 Louis marched into Italy and defeated Berengar; the following year he was crowned Emperor by Pope Benedict IV. In 902, however, Berengar struck back and defeated Louis, making him promise never to return to Italy. When he broke his oath by invading the peninsula again in 905, Berengar defeated him at Verona, captured him and ordered him to be blinded on 21 July. Louis returned to Provence and ruled for another twenty years as Louis 'the Blind'. Berengar thereby cemented his position as king and ruled undisputed, except for a brief spell, until 922. As king, Berengar made his seat at Verona, which he heavily fortified. During the years when Louis posed a threat to Berengar's kingship, his wife Bertila, who was a niece of the former empress Ingelberga, widow of Emperor Ludwig II and Louis' grandmother, played an important part in the legitimisation of Berengar's rule.
“In 904 Bergamo was subjected to a long siege by the Magyars. After the siege Berengar granted the bishop of the city its walls and the right to rebuild them with the help of the citizens and the refugees fleeing the Magyars. The bishop attained all the rights of a count in the city.
“In January 915 Pope John X tried to forge an alliance between Berengar and the local Italian rulers in hopes that he could face the Saracen threat in southern Italy. Berengar was unable to send troops, but after the great Battle of the Garigliano, a victory over the Saracens, John crowned Berengar as Emperor in Rome (in December 915). Berengar, however, returned swiftly to the north were Friuli was still threatened by the Magyars.
“In his later years his wife Bertila was charged with infidelity, a charge not uncommon against wives of declining kings of that period. She was poisoned. He had remarried a lady named Anna by December 915. By then Berengar's elder daughter Bertha was abbess of San Salvatore in Brescia, where her aunt had once been a nun. In that year, the following year, and in 917, Berengar endowed her monastery with three privileges to build or man fortifications. His younger daughter Gisela had married Adalbert 'the Rich', margrave of Ivrea, about 900, but this failed to spark an alliance with the Anscarids. She was dead by 913, when Adalbert remarried. Adalbert was one of Berengar's earliest internal enemies after the defeat of Louis of Provence. He called on Hugo of Arles between 917 and 920 to take the Iron Crown. Hugo did invade Italy with his brother Boso, margrave of Tuscany, and advanced as far as Pavia, where Berengar starved him into submission but allowed him to pass out of Italy freely.
“Dissatisfied with the emperor, who had ceased his policy of grants and family alliances in favour of paying Magyar mercenaries, several Italian nobles - led by Adalbert and many of the bishops - invited Rudolf II, king of Upper Burgundy, to take the Italian throne in 921. Moreover his own grandson, Berengar II of Ivrea, rose up against him, incited by Rudolf. Berengar retreated to Verona and had to watch sidelined as the Magyars pillaged the country. John, bishop of Pavia, surrendered his city to Rudolf in 922 and it was sacked by the Magyars in 924. On 29 July 923 the forces of Rudolf II, Adalbert and Berengar II of Ivrea met those of Berengar and defeated him in the Battle of Fiorenzuola, near Piacenza. The battle was decisive and Berengar was de facto dethroned and replaced by Rudolf. Berengar was soon after murdered at Verona by one of his own men on 7 April 924, possibly at Rudolf's instigation. He left no sons, only his remaining daughter Bertha, and an anonymous epic poem, the _Gesta Berengarii Imperatoris,_ about the many happenings of his troublesome reign.”.4 Berenger I (?) King of Italy, Emperor of the West, Margrave of Friuli was also known as Berengario I (?) King of Italy, Emperor of the West, Margrave of Friuli.7
; Per Med Lands:
"BERENGAR ([840/45]-murdered Verona 7 Apr 924). The Historia Ecclesiæ Cisoniensis records the testament of “Evrardus comes cum coniuge mea Gisla”, which bequeathes property “cortem in Anaspio…præter Grecinam et cortem nostrum Hildiolam in Hasbannis…et…in pago Condustrim” to “secundus…Berengarius”[279]. The Chronica Mon. Casinensis names "Berengarius Foroiulensis, filius Everardi marchionis Italiæ"[280]. "Gisle" granted "le fisc de Somain en Ostrevant" to "filii…Adelarde" by charter dated 14 Apr 869, which names "rex Karolus meus…germanus…senioris mei dulcis memorie Evrardi…tres infantes meos Rodulfum…et Berengarium…et…Adelarde"[281]. "Gisle" donated property to Cysoing for the anniversaries of "Ludovico imperatore patre meo et…Judith imperatrice matre mea et…rege Karolo…germano et…prole mea…Hengeltrude, Hunroc, Berengario, Adelardo, Rodulpho, Hellwich, Gilla, Judith" by charter dated to [874][282]. He succeeded his brother in 874 as BERENGARIO I Marchese di Friulia. The Gesta regum Francorum records "Berengarius…consanguineus imperator" being sent to expel "Wito comes Tuscianorum" in 883[283]. He was elected in 888 as BERENGARIO I King of Italy, supported principally by the German faction in Italy. "Berengarius rex" confirmed grants of property to "Angilbergæ…imperatrici", at the request of "…Vualfredus…marchio", by charter dated 8 May 888[284]. He was defeated by Guido of Spoleto in 889. He re-emerged as sole king in Italy in 898 after the death of Lambert of Spoleto. Louis King of Provence was elected as king of Italy in 900, with support particularly from Anscario Marchese d'Ivrea. Berengario defeated Louis twice, the second time conclusively in 905 when he had his rival blinded. He was crowned Emperor BERENGAR at Rome in 916. He allied himself with the Hungarians to defeat Rudolf II King of Upper Burgundy, who emerged as another rival candidate for the Italian throne, but was later forced back to Verona by Rudolf, and finally defeated by him at Firenzuola 29 Jul 923. Berengario returned to Verona with the intention of calling for further help from the Hungarians, who meanwhile had burned Pavia. He was murdered at Verona soon after.
"m firstly ([880/3 Nov 890]) BERTILA di Spoleto, daughter of SUPPO II Duke of Spoleto & his wife --- (-executed before Dec 915). "Berengarius rex" confirmed grants of property "Mercoriatico in territorio [comitatu] Regiensi" to "Iohanne presbiter", at the request of "Berchtilæ…coniugis et consortis regni nostri", by charter dated 3 Nov 890[285]. Berengario I King of Italy "conjugis nostreque Regni consortis Berchtile" granted property "in comitatu Veronense" to "Anselmo…Comite, nostroque Compatre et Consiliario" by charter dated 26 Jul 910[286]. The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. She was executed for alleged adultery.
"m secondly (before Dec 915) ANNA, daughter of --- (-after May 930). "Berengarius…rex" granted "mansum in villa Evurio…de comitatu Oxilense de corticella…Beura" to "fideli nostro…Hervino nepoti…Dagiberti episcopi", at the request of "Anna…coniuncx nostram", by charter dated to [915][287]. Her marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 920 under which "Berengarius…Imperator Augustus" granted "curtem…de Prato Plano finibus Placentinis" to "Annæ…coniugi nostræ"[288]."
Med Lands cites:
[279] Historia Ecclesiæ Cisoniensis, Spicilegium II, p. 876.
[280] Leonis Marsicani, Chronica Monasterii Casinensis I.61, MGH SS VII, p. 623.
[281] Cysoing III, p. 7.
[282] Cysoing VI, p. 11.
[283] Gesta quorundam regum Francorum, pars quinta 883, MGH SS I, p. 398.
[284] Berengario I Diplomi, IV, p. 25.
[285] Berengario I Diplomi, X, p. 37.
[286] Muratori, L. A. (1773) Antiquitates Italicæ Medii ævi, Tome IV, p. 446.
[287] Berengario I Diplomi, CVII, p. 275.
[288] Muratori, L. A. (1773) Antiquitates Italicæ Medii ævi, Tome IV, p. 220.5
[280] Leonis Marsicani, Chronica Monasterii Casinensis I.61, MGH SS VII, p. 623.
[281] Cysoing III, p. 7.
[282] Cysoing VI, p. 11.
[283] Gesta quorundam regum Francorum, pars quinta 883, MGH SS I, p. 398.
[284] Berengario I Diplomi, IV, p. 25.
[285] Berengario I Diplomi, X, p. 37.
[286] Muratori, L. A. (1773) Antiquitates Italicæ Medii ævi, Tome IV, p. 446.
[287] Berengario I Diplomi, CVII, p. 275.
[288] Muratori, L. A. (1773) Antiquitates Italicæ Medii ævi, Tome IV, p. 220.5
; Per Med Lands:
"BERTILA (-executed before Dec 915). The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. "Berengarius rex" confirmed grants of property "Mercoriatico in territorio [comitatu] Regiensi" to "Iohanne presbiter", at the request of "Berchtilæ…coniugis et consortis regni nostri", by charter dated 3 Nov 890[912]. Berengario I King of Italy "conjugis nostreque Regni consortis Berchtile" granted property "in comitatu Veronense" to "Anselmo…Comite, nostroque Compatre et Consiliario" by charter dated 26 Jul 910[913]. She was executed for alleged adultery.
"m ([880/3 Nov 890]) as his first wife, BERENGARIO [I] Marchese of Friulia, son of EBERHARD Marchese of Friulia & his wife Gisela [Carolingian] ([840/45]-murdered Verona 7 Apr 924). "
Med Lands cites:
[912] Schiaparelli, L. (ed.) (1903) I diplomi di Berengario I, Fonti per la Storia d´Italia (Rome) ("Berengario I Diplomi"), X, p. 37.
[913] Muratori, L. A. (1773) Antiquitates Italicæ Medii ævi, Tome IV, p. 446.12
He was King of Italy between January 881 and 924.10,17,7 He was Duke of Friuli between 915 and 924.7 He was Emperor of Italy[913] Muratori, L. A. (1773) Antiquitates Italicæ Medii ævi, Tome IV, p. 446.12
See attached map of empire ruled by Berengar I ca 915 (from Wikipedia: By Trasamundo - Own work, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=9778961) between 915 and 924.10,17,18,7
Family 1 | Bertila di Spoleto Regina d'Italia, Sacra Romana Imperatrice b. c 860, d. b Dec 915 |
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Citations
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- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Berengar I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036190&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gisla de France: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020512&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Berengar I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036190&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20ITALY%20900-1100.htm#BerengarioIitalydied924A. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eberhard I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020513&tree=LEO
- [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Berengario I: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/beren001.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
- [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Eberhard: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/eberh000.htm
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Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 146-16, p. 128. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bertila of Spoleto: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036191&tree=LEO
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Bertila di Spoleto Regina d'Italia, Sacra Romana Imperatrice1,2,3
F, #6626, b. circa 860, d. before December 915
Father | Suppo II (?) Duke of Spoleto, Count of Camerino4,5,6,3 |
Mother | Bertha (?)3 |
Reference | GAV30 EDV31 |
Last Edited | 26 Aug 2020 |
Bertila di Spoleto Regina d'Italia, Sacra Romana Imperatrice was born circa 860.5 She married Berenger I (?) King of Italy, Emperor of the West, Margrave of Friuli, son of Eberhard I (?) Margrave of Friuli and Gisla (?) de Francia, circa 880
;
His 1st wife. Genealogics says m. ca 880; The Henry Project says m. say 880x890.7,5,6,8,9,10,3
Bertila di Spoleto Regina d'Italia, Sacra Romana Imperatrice died before December 915; Executed; The Henry Project says d. 910x5.7,5,6,3
; Per Med Lands:
"BERENGAR ([840/45]-murdered Verona 7 Apr 924). The Historia Ecclesiæ Cisoniensis records the testament of “Evrardus comes cum coniuge mea Gisla”, which bequeathes property “cortem in Anaspio…præter Grecinam et cortem nostrum Hildiolam in Hasbannis…et…in pago Condustrim” to “secundus…Berengarius”[279]. The Chronica Mon. Casinensis names "Berengarius Foroiulensis, filius Everardi marchionis Italiæ"[280]. "Gisle" granted "le fisc de Somain en Ostrevant" to "filii…Adelarde" by charter dated 14 Apr 869, which names "rex Karolus meus…germanus…senioris mei dulcis memorie Evrardi…tres infantes meos Rodulfum…et Berengarium…et…Adelarde"[281]. "Gisle" donated property to Cysoing for the anniversaries of "Ludovico imperatore patre meo et…Judith imperatrice matre mea et…rege Karolo…germano et…prole mea…Hengeltrude, Hunroc, Berengario, Adelardo, Rodulpho, Hellwich, Gilla, Judith" by charter dated to [874][282]. He succeeded his brother in 874 as BERENGARIO I Marchese di Friulia. The Gesta regum Francorum records "Berengarius…consanguineus imperator" being sent to expel "Wito comes Tuscianorum" in 883[283]. He was elected in 888 as BERENGARIO I King of Italy, supported principally by the German faction in Italy. "Berengarius rex" confirmed grants of property to "Angilbergæ…imperatrici", at the request of "…Vualfredus…marchio", by charter dated 8 May 888[284]. He was defeated by Guido of Spoleto in 889. He re-emerged as sole king in Italy in 898 after the death of Lambert of Spoleto. Louis King of Provence was elected as king of Italy in 900, with support particularly from Anscario Marchese d'Ivrea. Berengario defeated Louis twice, the second time conclusively in 905 when he had his rival blinded. He was crowned Emperor BERENGAR at Rome in 916. He allied himself with the Hungarians to defeat Rudolf II King of Upper Burgundy, who emerged as another rival candidate for the Italian throne, but was later forced back to Verona by Rudolf, and finally defeated by him at Firenzuola 29 Jul 923. Berengario returned to Verona with the intention of calling for further help from the Hungarians, who meanwhile had burned Pavia. He was murdered at Verona soon after.
"m firstly ([880/3 Nov 890]) BERTILA di Spoleto, daughter of SUPPO II Duke of Spoleto & his wife --- (-executed before Dec 915). "Berengarius rex" confirmed grants of property "Mercoriatico in territorio [comitatu] Regiensi" to "Iohanne presbiter", at the request of "Berchtilæ…coniugis et consortis regni nostri", by charter dated 3 Nov 890[285]. Berengario I King of Italy "conjugis nostreque Regni consortis Berchtile" granted property "in comitatu Veronense" to "Anselmo…Comite, nostroque Compatre et Consiliario" by charter dated 26 Jul 910[286]. The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. She was executed for alleged adultery.
"m secondly (before Dec 915) ANNA, daughter of --- (-after May 930). "Berengarius…rex" granted "mansum in villa Evurio…de comitatu Oxilense de corticella…Beura" to "fideli nostro…Hervino nepoti…Dagiberti episcopi", at the request of "Anna…coniuncx nostram", by charter dated to [915][287]. Her marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 920 under which "Berengarius…Imperator Augustus" granted "curtem…de Prato Plano finibus Placentinis" to "Annæ…coniugi nostræ"[288]."
Med Lands cites:
Reference: Genealgoics cites:
; Per Genealogics:
“Bertila was born about 860, the daughter of Suppo II, duke of Spoleto, count of Camerino.
“About 880 she married Berengar I, margrave of Friuli, son of Eberhard I, margrave of Friuli, and Gisela de France, who became king of Italy in 888. The marriage secured an alliance with the powerful Supponid family, but her husband lost his throne in the following year to Guido, duke of Spoleto. Berengar began to reassert his power in 896 after the fall of the Spoleto family and the withdrawal of Emperor Arnulf von Kärnten from the Italian peninsula; however, a defeat by a Magyar army, and the decision by the Italian nobles to appoint Louis III, king of Lower Burgundy, as king of Italy, delayed Berengar's formal return to power until 905. Bertila would rule alongside him as a _consors,_ a title specifically denoting her informal power and influence, as opposed to a mere _Coniunx_ (wife). They had several children, but only their daughter Gisela is recorded with progeny, marrying Adalbert 'the Rich', margrave of Ivrea.
“Bertila became empress after her husband was crowned emperor in 915. However she was charged with infidelity, a charge not uncommon against wives of declining kings of that period, and was poisoned, dying before December of the same year.”.5
; This is the same person as:
”Bertila of Spoleto” at Wikipedia and as
”Bertila di Spoleto” at Wikipedia (It.)
This is also the same person as ”Bertila” at The Henry Project.11,2,3 GAV-30 EDV-31 GKJ-31.
Reference: Weis [1992:128] line 146-16.7
; Per Med Lands:
"BERTILA (-executed before Dec 915). The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. "Berengarius rex" confirmed grants of property "Mercoriatico in territorio [comitatu] Regiensi" to "Iohanne presbiter", at the request of "Berchtilæ…coniugis et consortis regni nostri", by charter dated 3 Nov 890[912]. Berengario I King of Italy "conjugis nostreque Regni consortis Berchtile" granted property "in comitatu Veronense" to "Anselmo…Comite, nostroque Compatre et Consiliario" by charter dated 26 Jul 910[913]. She was executed for alleged adultery.
"m ([880/3 Nov 890]) as his first wife, BERENGARIO [I] Marchese of Friulia, son of EBERHARD Marchese of Friulia & his wife Gisela [Carolingian] ([840/45]-murdered Verona 7 Apr 924). "
Med Lands cites:
;
His 1st wife. Genealogics says m. ca 880; The Henry Project says m. say 880x890.7,5,6,8,9,10,3
Bertila di Spoleto Regina d'Italia, Sacra Romana Imperatrice died before December 915; Executed; The Henry Project says d. 910x5.7,5,6,3
; Per Med Lands:
"BERENGAR ([840/45]-murdered Verona 7 Apr 924). The Historia Ecclesiæ Cisoniensis records the testament of “Evrardus comes cum coniuge mea Gisla”, which bequeathes property “cortem in Anaspio…præter Grecinam et cortem nostrum Hildiolam in Hasbannis…et…in pago Condustrim” to “secundus…Berengarius”[279]. The Chronica Mon. Casinensis names "Berengarius Foroiulensis, filius Everardi marchionis Italiæ"[280]. "Gisle" granted "le fisc de Somain en Ostrevant" to "filii…Adelarde" by charter dated 14 Apr 869, which names "rex Karolus meus…germanus…senioris mei dulcis memorie Evrardi…tres infantes meos Rodulfum…et Berengarium…et…Adelarde"[281]. "Gisle" donated property to Cysoing for the anniversaries of "Ludovico imperatore patre meo et…Judith imperatrice matre mea et…rege Karolo…germano et…prole mea…Hengeltrude, Hunroc, Berengario, Adelardo, Rodulpho, Hellwich, Gilla, Judith" by charter dated to [874][282]. He succeeded his brother in 874 as BERENGARIO I Marchese di Friulia. The Gesta regum Francorum records "Berengarius…consanguineus imperator" being sent to expel "Wito comes Tuscianorum" in 883[283]. He was elected in 888 as BERENGARIO I King of Italy, supported principally by the German faction in Italy. "Berengarius rex" confirmed grants of property to "Angilbergæ…imperatrici", at the request of "…Vualfredus…marchio", by charter dated 8 May 888[284]. He was defeated by Guido of Spoleto in 889. He re-emerged as sole king in Italy in 898 after the death of Lambert of Spoleto. Louis King of Provence was elected as king of Italy in 900, with support particularly from Anscario Marchese d'Ivrea. Berengario defeated Louis twice, the second time conclusively in 905 when he had his rival blinded. He was crowned Emperor BERENGAR at Rome in 916. He allied himself with the Hungarians to defeat Rudolf II King of Upper Burgundy, who emerged as another rival candidate for the Italian throne, but was later forced back to Verona by Rudolf, and finally defeated by him at Firenzuola 29 Jul 923. Berengario returned to Verona with the intention of calling for further help from the Hungarians, who meanwhile had burned Pavia. He was murdered at Verona soon after.
"m firstly ([880/3 Nov 890]) BERTILA di Spoleto, daughter of SUPPO II Duke of Spoleto & his wife --- (-executed before Dec 915). "Berengarius rex" confirmed grants of property "Mercoriatico in territorio [comitatu] Regiensi" to "Iohanne presbiter", at the request of "Berchtilæ…coniugis et consortis regni nostri", by charter dated 3 Nov 890[285]. Berengario I King of Italy "conjugis nostreque Regni consortis Berchtile" granted property "in comitatu Veronense" to "Anselmo…Comite, nostroque Compatre et Consiliario" by charter dated 26 Jul 910[286]. The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. She was executed for alleged adultery.
"m secondly (before Dec 915) ANNA, daughter of --- (-after May 930). "Berengarius…rex" granted "mansum in villa Evurio…de comitatu Oxilense de corticella…Beura" to "fideli nostro…Hervino nepoti…Dagiberti episcopi", at the request of "Anna…coniuncx nostram", by charter dated to [915][287]. Her marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 920 under which "Berengarius…Imperator Augustus" granted "curtem…de Prato Plano finibus Placentinis" to "Annæ…coniugi nostræ"[288]."
Med Lands cites:
[279] Historia Ecclesiæ Cisoniensis, Spicilegium II, p. 876.
[280] Leonis Marsicani, Chronica Monasterii Casinensis I.61, MGH SS VII, p. 623.
[281] Cysoing III, p. 7.
[282] Cysoing VI, p. 11.
[283] Gesta quorundam regum Francorum, pars quinta 883, MGH SS I, p. 398.
[284] Berengario I Diplomi, IV, p. 25.
[285] Berengario I Diplomi, X, p. 37.
[286] Muratori, L. A. (1773) Antiquitates Italicæ Medii ævi, Tome IV, p. 446.
[287] Berengario I Diplomi, CVII, p. 275.
[288] Muratori, L. A. (1773) Antiquitates Italicæ Medii ævi, Tome IV, p. 220.9
[280] Leonis Marsicani, Chronica Monasterii Casinensis I.61, MGH SS VII, p. 623.
[281] Cysoing III, p. 7.
[282] Cysoing VI, p. 11.
[283] Gesta quorundam regum Francorum, pars quinta 883, MGH SS I, p. 398.
[284] Berengario I Diplomi, IV, p. 25.
[285] Berengario I Diplomi, X, p. 37.
[286] Muratori, L. A. (1773) Antiquitates Italicæ Medii ævi, Tome IV, p. 446.
[287] Berengario I Diplomi, CVII, p. 275.
[288] Muratori, L. A. (1773) Antiquitates Italicæ Medii ævi, Tome IV, p. 220.9
Reference: Genealgoics cites:
1. Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 97.
2. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 42.5
2. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 42.5
; Per Genealogics:
“Bertila was born about 860, the daughter of Suppo II, duke of Spoleto, count of Camerino.
“About 880 she married Berengar I, margrave of Friuli, son of Eberhard I, margrave of Friuli, and Gisela de France, who became king of Italy in 888. The marriage secured an alliance with the powerful Supponid family, but her husband lost his throne in the following year to Guido, duke of Spoleto. Berengar began to reassert his power in 896 after the fall of the Spoleto family and the withdrawal of Emperor Arnulf von Kärnten from the Italian peninsula; however, a defeat by a Magyar army, and the decision by the Italian nobles to appoint Louis III, king of Lower Burgundy, as king of Italy, delayed Berengar's formal return to power until 905. Bertila would rule alongside him as a _consors,_ a title specifically denoting her informal power and influence, as opposed to a mere _Coniunx_ (wife). They had several children, but only their daughter Gisela is recorded with progeny, marrying Adalbert 'the Rich', margrave of Ivrea.
“Bertila became empress after her husband was crowned emperor in 915. However she was charged with infidelity, a charge not uncommon against wives of declining kings of that period, and was poisoned, dying before December of the same year.”.5
; This is the same person as:
”Bertila of Spoleto” at Wikipedia and as
”Bertila di Spoleto” at Wikipedia (It.)
This is also the same person as ”Bertila” at The Henry Project.11,2,3 GAV-30 EDV-31 GKJ-31.
Reference: Weis [1992:128] line 146-16.7
; Per Med Lands:
"BERTILA (-executed before Dec 915). The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. "Berengarius rex" confirmed grants of property "Mercoriatico in territorio [comitatu] Regiensi" to "Iohanne presbiter", at the request of "Berchtilæ…coniugis et consortis regni nostri", by charter dated 3 Nov 890[912]. Berengario I King of Italy "conjugis nostreque Regni consortis Berchtile" granted property "in comitatu Veronense" to "Anselmo…Comite, nostroque Compatre et Consiliario" by charter dated 26 Jul 910[913]. She was executed for alleged adultery.
"m ([880/3 Nov 890]) as his first wife, BERENGARIO [I] Marchese of Friulia, son of EBERHARD Marchese of Friulia & his wife Gisela [Carolingian] ([840/45]-murdered Verona 7 Apr 924). "
Med Lands cites:
[912] Schiaparelli, L. (ed.) (1903) I diplomi di Berengario I, Fonti per la Storia d´Italia (Rome) ("Berengario I Diplomi"), X, p. 37.
[913] Muratori, L. A. (1773) Antiquitates Italicæ Medii ævi, Tome IV, p. 446.6
She was Regina d'Italia between 888 and 889.2 She was Regina d'Italia between 896 and 915.2 She was Sacra Romana Imperatrice between 915 and 915.2[913] Muratori, L. A. (1773) Antiquitates Italicæ Medii ævi, Tome IV, p. 446.6
Family | Berenger I (?) King of Italy, Emperor of the West, Margrave of Friuli b. bt 840 - 845, d. 7 Apr 924 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bertila of Spoleto: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036191&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S4765] Wikipedia - L'enciclopedia libera, online https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pagina_principale, Bertila di Spoleto: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertila_di_Spoleto. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (IT).
- [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Bertila: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/berti000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Supppo II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036192&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bertila of Spoleto: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036191&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CENTRAL%20ITALY.htm#BertilaSpoletodied915. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 146-16, p. 128. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Berengar I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036190&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20ITALY%20900-1100.htm#BerengarioIitalydied924A
- [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Berengario I: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/beren001.htm
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertila_of_Spoleto. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gisela of Friaul: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036194&tree=LEO
- [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Gisela: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/gisel001.htm
Basileios (?) Skleros Magistros1
M, #6627, d. after 1028
Father | Romanos Skleros2 b. b 976, d. c 1033 |
Reference | EDV30 |
Last Edited | 10 Nov 2020 |
Basileios (?) Skleros Magistros married Pulcheria Argyropoulina, daughter of (?) Argyropoulos Patrikos.1
Basileios (?) Skleros Magistros died after 1028.1
; Leo van de Pas cites: Descents from Antiquity The Augustan Society 1993, Reference: T1.1 EDV-30. He was living in 1028.1
Basileios (?) Skleros Magistros died after 1028.1
; Leo van de Pas cites: Descents from Antiquity The Augustan Society 1993, Reference: T1.1 EDV-30. He was living in 1028.1
Family | Pulcheria Argyropoulina |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, (Basileios) Skleros: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00220751&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Romanos Skleros: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00220749&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN Skleraina: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00220753&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BYZANTIUM.htm#SklerainaMKonstantinosMonomachos. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Gisela von Schwaben Queen of Germany, Holy Roman empress, Queen of Burgundy1,2,3,4,5
F, #6628, b. 11 November 990, d. 14 February 1043
Father | Hermann II (?) Duke of Swabia6,2,7,3,4,8,9 b. 950, d. b 4 May 1003 |
Mother | Gerberge/Guepa (?) de Bourgogne10,11,8,12,9 b. 965, d. 7 Jul 1019 |
Reference | GAV28 EDV28 |
Last Edited | 20 Aug 2020 |
Gisela von Schwaben Queen of Germany, Holy Roman empress, Queen of Burgundy was born on 11 November 990; Genealogy.EU (Babenbergs page) says b. ca 990; Salian page says b. 13.11.989; Weis [AR7] line 157-21 says b. 11 Nov 995; Genealogics says b. ca 993; Ravilious says b. 0990; Med Lands says b. 11/11/990.13,2,3,8,4,14 She married Bruno|Burin|Brun I (?) Graf von Braunschweig, son of Ekbert 'der Einäugige' (?) Graf im Hastfalagau, in 1002
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Her 1st husband.15,4,16,9 Gisela von Schwaben Queen of Germany, Holy Roman empress, Queen of Burgundy married Ernst I von Babenberg Herzog von Schwaben, son of Luitpold I (?) Mkgf der Bayrischen Ostmark and Richenza (?) of Saalfeld, in 1012
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Her 1st husband.2,4,9,17,14,18 Gisela von Schwaben Queen of Germany, Holy Roman empress, Queen of Burgundy married Konrad II "the Salic" (?) Holy Roman Emperor, son of Heinrich (?) Duke of Franconia, Graf von Speyer and Adelheid (?) of Alsace, between 1015 and 1017
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Her 3rd husband. Salian page says m. 1016; Weis [AR7] says m. 1015; Genealogics says m. 1017; Med Lands says m. 31 May 1015/Jan 1017.13,19,3,20,8,4,9,21,22
Gisela von Schwaben Queen of Germany, Holy Roman empress, Queen of Burgundy died on 14 February 1043 at Goslar, Landkreis Goslar, Lower Saxony (Niedersachsen), Germany, at age 52.13,2,19,3,8,4
Gisela von Schwaben Queen of Germany, Holy Roman empress, Queen of Burgundy was buried after 14 February 1043 at Cathedral of Speyer (Kaiser Dom), Speyer, Stadtkreis Speyer, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 11 Nov 999
DEATH 15 Feb 1043 (aged 43), Goslar, Landkreis Goslar, Lower Saxony (Niedersachsen), Germany
German Royalty. Duchess of Swabia, German Queen, and Roman Empress. Daughter of Hermann II of Swabia and Gerberge of Burgundy a granddaughter of Louis IV "d'Outre Mer" and Gerberge of Saxony. She was beautiful, intelligent and the heiress of a big fortune, so many wanted to marry her. She first married around 1002 Bruno of Brunswick. Around 1010 she married Duke Ernst I of Swabia and became the mother of the later Dukes Ernst II and Hermann IV. In 1016 she was married to Konrad II and was crowned queen in Cologne in September 1024. In 1027 they received the imperial crown from Pope John XIX in Rome. She gave birth to three children in this third marriage. Heinrich, born in 1017, would later become Emperor Heinrich II, and their daughter Mathilde married later King Henri I of France. Beatrix, their third child only lived for six years.
Family Members
Spouses
Brun I of Brunswick unknown–1010
Ernest I Duke of of Swabia unknown–1015
Konrad II unknown–1039
Children
Herman IV of Swabia 1010–1038
Heinrich III 1017–1056
Mathilde of Franconia 1026–1034
BURIAL Cathedral of Speyer, Speyer, Stadtkreis Speyer, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany
Created by: Lutetia
Added: 26 May 2008
Find a Grave Memorial 27095447.23
; Per Genealogics:
“Gisela was born about 993, the daughter of Hermann II, Herzog von Schwaben, and Gerberge de Bourgogne. Her first husband was Ernst, Herzog von Schwaben, son of Luitpold, Markgraf von der Ostmark, and his wife Richiza. They had two sons of whom Hermann IV would have progeny. When Ernst died in 1015 she became regent for their son Ernst II. She was then removed from the regency on grounds that she had been too closely related to her late husband. In the same year she married Graf Bruno von Braunschweig, with whom she had a son Liudolf who would have progeny.
“Her third marriage, in 1017, was to Konrad II, Graf von Speyer, the future Emperor Konrad II, son of Heinrich, Graf von Speyer, and Adelaide of Alsace. Both parties claimed descent from Emperor Otto I 'the Great' and were thus related. Strict canonists took exception to the marriage, and Emperor Heinrich II used this to force Konrad into temporary exile. They became reconciled, and upon Heinrich's death in 1024, her husband Konrad was elected as King of the Germans and crowned in Mainz on 8 September 1024. Heinrich became emperor in 1027. They had a son Heinrich III who would have progeny and succeed his father as emperor, and two daughters.
“Gisela played an active role in politics, attending imperial councils and had her relative the childless Rudolf III, king of Burgundy, transfer the succession of his realm to her husband. She also participated in several synods of the church.
“Gisela died of dysentery in the royal palace in Goslar on 14 February 1043. She is interred in the grotto of the cathedral of Speyer, along with several emperors and other members of the imperial family. Her tomb was opened in 1900 and Gisela's mummified body was found to be 172 cm tall, with long blond hair.”.4 GAV-28 EDV-28.
; This is the same person as ”Gisela of Swabia” at Wikipedia, as ”Gisèle de Souabe” at Wikipedia (FR.), and as ”Gisela von Schwaben” at Wikipedia (DE.)5,24,25
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, Band I, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. 4.4
; Per Genealogy.EU (Wetterau): “F3. Gisela, *990, +Goslar 15.2.1043, bur Speyer; 1m: Bruno von Braunschweig (+ca 1006); 2m: ca 1014 Duke Ernst I of Swabia (+31.5.1015); 3m: King Konrad II of Germany (*ca 990, +4.6.1039)”.9
; Per Med Lands:
"GISELA (11 Nov 990[146]-Goslar 16 Feb 1043, bur Speyer Cathedral). Herimannus names "sororis suæ [=Herimannus iunior dux Alamanniæ defunctus" as wife of Ernst when recording the latter's succession as Duke of Swabia in 1012[147]. Wipo names "Herimannus dux Alamanniæ [et] Kerbirga filia Chuonradi regis de Burgundia" as the parents of "regis coniunx Gisela"[148]. The Notæ Sancti Blasii name her "Gisla de Werle" when recording her three marriages[149]. The Annalista Saxo names her three husbands, although the order of her first and second marriages is interchanged, which appears impossible chronologically[150]. The necrology of Fulda records the death "1043 XVI Kal Mar" of "Gisela imp"[151]. Herimannus records her death at Goslar[152]. The Annales Spirenses record the burial at Speyer of "Heinricus senior [=Heinricus IV] et aviam suam"[153], the latter assumed to be Gisela his paternal grandmother rather than his maternal grandmother.
"m firstly ([1003/05]) BRUNO [I] Graf [von Braunschweig], son of EKBERT & his wife --- (-murdered [1010/11]).
"m secondly ([1012]) ERNST Duke of Swabia, son of LUITPOLD I Markgraf der bayerischen Ostmark [Babenberg-Austria] & his wife Richwara --- (-31 Mar 1015, bur Würzburg).
"m thirdly (before Jan 1017) KONRAD Herzog von Franken, son of HEINRICH Graf im Wormsgau [Salier] & his wife Adelheid of Metz [Matfriede] ([990]-Utrecht 4 Jun 1039, bur Speyer cathedral). He was elected KONRAD II King of Germany 4 Sep 1024, crowned at Mainz 8 Sep 1024. Crowned King of Italy at Milan Mar 1026. Crowned Emperor at Rome 26 Mar 1027."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"KONRAD of Franconia, son of HEINRICH Graf [im Wormsgau] & his wife Adelheid [Matfriede] ([990]-Utrecht 4 Jun 1039, bur Speyer cathedral). "Heinricus…Romanorum imperator augustus" renewed the privileges of Kloster Fulda by undated charter, placed in the compilation with other charters dated 1020, witnessed by "Godifridi ducis, Berinhardi ducis, Thiederici ducis, Welphonis comitis, Cunonis comitis, Kunrati comitis, Ottonis comitis, Adilbrahtis comitis, Bobonis comitis, Friderici comitis, Bezilini comitis, Ezonis comitis palatini"[344], the order of witnesses presumably giving some idea of the relative importance of these named nobles at the court of Emperor Heinrich II at the time. Herimannus names "Counradus senior, filius Heinrici et Adalheidæ" when recording his candidacy to succeed as king of Germany in 1024[345]. Thietmar names "Konrad who had illegally married his own cousin, the widow of Duke Ernst" when recording that he was wounded when Gerhard Graf von Metz (his maternal uncle) met Godefroi II Duke of Lower Lotharingia for "a judicial duel" 27 Aug 1017[346]. Wipo, in his description of the election of Konrad II King of Germany in 1024, calls him "Cuono of Worms Duke of the Franks" and "Cuono the Younger"[347]. He was elected as KONRAD II King of Germany at Chamba, Rheingau 4 Sep 1024, crowned at Mainz 8 Sep 1024. Crowned King of Italy at Milan in Mar 1026. Crowned Emperor KONRAD I at Rome 26 Mar 1027. Rudolf III King of Burgundy in 1032 bequeathed his kingdom to Emperor Konrad, who was crowned king of Burgundy at Payerne 2 Feb 1033[348]. Konrad's succession in Burgundy was challenged by his wife's first cousin Eudes II Comte de Blois, with support from Géraud Comte de Genève, but he consolidated his position by 1037 when he proclaimed a law which established the basis for the inheritance of titles and offices in the kingdom[349]. Founded Kloster Limburg 1024-1032. The necrology of Prüm records the death "II Non Iun" of "Cuonradus imperator"[350]. The Annales Spirenses record his burial at Speyer[351].
"m ([31 May 1015/Jan 1017]) as her third husband, GISELA of Swabia, widow firstly of BRUNO Graf [von Braunschweig], secondly of ERNST Duke of Swabia [Babenberg], daughter of HERMANN II Duke of Swabia & his wife Gerberga of Upper Burgundy (11 Nov 990-Goslar 15 Feb 1043, bur Speyer cathedral). The Annalista Saxo names her three husbands, although the order of her first and second marriages is interchanged which appears impossible chronologically[352]. She was crowned Queen of Germany at Köln 21 Sep 1024. Crowned empress, with her husband, at Rome 26 Mar 1027. The Annalista Saxo records the death of "Gisla imperatrix mater Heinrici regis" on "XVI Kal Martii" and her burial at Speyer[353]. The necrology of St Gall records the death "XV Kal Feb" of "Gisila imperatrix"[354]. Herimannus records her death at Goslar[355]. The Annales Spirenses record the burial at Speyer of "Heinricus senior [=Heinricus IV] et aviam suam"[356], the latter assumed to be his paternal grandmother Gisela rather than his maternal grandmother."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (Salian): “[1m.] Konrad II "The Salian", King of Germany (1024-27), King of Italy (1026-39), Emperor (1027-39), King of Burgundy (1032-1038), *ca 990, +Speyer 4.6.1039; m.1016 Gisele (*13.11.989 +15.2.1043), dau.of Hermann II of Swabia”.3
; Per Richardson:
"Douglas Richardson Mar 26, 2006, 11:58:40 AM
"Duke Heinrich of Bavaria & Saxony (nicknamed the Lion), died 1195, referred in a charter dated before ?1190 to his late kinsman, Friedrich II, Count Palatine of Saxony, Count of Sommerschenburg, founder of Marienthal monastery ["... quam pie memorie Frithericus palatinus, fundator ipsius coenobii, cognatus noster") [Reference: Die Urkunden Heinrichs des Löwen Herzogs von Sachsen und Bayern (Monumenta Germaniae Historica, 500-1500) (1941): 181-182].
"Charting their respective ancestries, I find that three of Count Friedrich II's great-grandparents are unknown, which makes it difficult at best to be certain how the two men were related. Regardless, I find that one of Count Friedrich's great-grandparents, Bernard II, Count of Hövel, was in fact uncle to the ancestral line of Duke Heinrich. If this is the kinship intended, the two men were related in the 4th and 7th degrees of kindred, or if you prefer third cousins thrice removed, by virtue of common descent from Gerbege (or Guepa) of Burgundy, died 1018/9, but by different husbands, as charted below.
"For additional information on Friedrich II, Count Palatine of Saxony, Count of Sommerschenburg (died 1162), see the following website:
http://www.genealogie-mittelalter.de/sommerschenburger_pfalzgrafen_von_sachsen/friedrich_2_pfalzgraf_von_sachsen_1162/friedrich_2_pfalzgraf_von_sachsen_+_1162.html
"This post is part of a systematic, exhaustive study into the nature of kinship among high born medieval European families.
"Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
"Website: www.royalancestry.net“.26
; Per Med Lands:
"ERNST von Babenberg, son of LIUTPOLD I Markgraf der bayerischen Ostmark [Austria] & his wife Richwara [im Sualafeldgau] ([985/90]-31 Mar 1015, bur Würzburg). Thietmar names "Ernst son of Markgraf Leopold" when recording that he was among those sent by Heinrich II King of Germany to Lombardy after his election to quell unrest[189]. A list of names in the Verbrüderungsbuch of Reichenau abbey reads "Luitpold marches, Rihuuar, Iudita, Heinrich, Ernust, Poppo, Luitpold, Cunigurrt, Adalbr"[190], which appears to refer to Markgraf Luitpold, his wife and children. The Chronicle of Otto von Freising, interpolated in the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines, names "Ernesto duci Suevorum, fratri Alberti superioris Pannonis marchionis et archiepiscopi Treverensis Popponis" as first husband of "Gisila [imperatrix]"[191], although he was in fact her second husband. His birth date range is estimated on the basis of his marriage in [1012]. He succeeded in 1012 as ERNST I Duke of Swabia. The necrology of Fulda records the death in 1015 of "Ernst dux"[192]. Thietmar records that "Duke Ernst of Swabia" died on 31 Mar after a hunting accident and was buried in Würzburg next to his father "Markgraf Leopold"[193].
"m ([1012]) as her second husband, GISELA of Swabia, widow of BRUNO [I] Graf [von Braunschweig], daughter of HERMANN II Duke of Swabia & his wife Gerberga of Upper Burgundy ([990]-Goslar 1043). Herimannus names "sororis suæ [=Herimannus iunior dux Alamanniæ defunctus" as wife of Ernst when recording the latter's succession as Duke of Swabia in 1012[194]. Wipo names "Herimannus dux Alamanniæ [et] Kerbirga filia Chuonradi regis de Burgundia" as the parents of "regis coniunx Gisela"[195]. The Notæ Sancti Blasii name her "Gisla de Werle" when recording her three marriages[196]. The Annalista Saxo names her three husbands, although the order of her first and second marriages is interchanged which appears impossible chronologically[197]. She married thirdly (before Jan 1017) Konrad Duke of Franconia, later Emperor Konrad II King of Germany. The necrology of Fulda records the death "1043 XVI Kal Mar" of "Gisela imp"[198]. Herimannus records her death at Goslar[199]. The Annales Spirenses record the burial at Speyer of "Heinricus senior [=Heinricus IV] et aviam suam"[200], the latter assumed to be Gisela his paternal grandmother rather than his maternal grandmother."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (Babenberg): “E3. Ernst I, Duke of Swabia (1012-15), *before 984, +k.in hunting accident 31.5.1015; m.ca 1014 Gisela (*ca 990 +Goslar 15.2.1043) dau.of Duke Herman II of Swabia”.27
; Per Med Lands:
"BRUNO, son of [EKBERT "der Einäugige Graf im Hastfalagau] & his wife --- ([975/85]-murdered near Niedorp[10] [1010/11][11]). There is no proof that Bruno von Braunschweig was the son of Ekbert "der Einäugige" but this appears probable in view of the names which are common to the two families and also the common references to the Derlingau. Bruno is shown in Europäische Stammtafeln as the brother of Wichmann [III] Graf im Duffelgau and Ekbert Graf im Derlingau, while another table shows Wichmann [III] as son of Ekbert[12]. His birth date range is estimated from his estimated marriage date. The estimated birth date ranges of both Wichmann [III] and Bruno are consistent with their having been brothers. Bruno founded Braunschweig. He was a candidate for the German throne in 1002[13] in opposition to Heinrich IV Duke of Bavaria, who was elected as Heinrich II King of Germany.
"m ([1003/05]) as her first husband, GISELA of Swabia, daughter of HERMANN II Duke of Swabia & his wife Gerberga of Upper Burgundy (11 Nov 990-Goslar 16 Feb 1043, bur Speyer Cathedral). The Annalista Saxo names her three husbands, although the order of her first and second marriages is interchanged which appears impossible chronologically[14]. The necrology of Fulda records the death "1043 16 Kal Mar" of "Gisela imp"[15]. She married secondly ([1014]) Ernst Duke of Swabia [Babenberg] and thirdly Konrad II Herzog von Franken, who succeeded in 1024 as Konrad II King of Germany, and was crowned as Emperor Konrad I in 1027. "
Med Lands cites:
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Her 1st husband.15,4,16,9 Gisela von Schwaben Queen of Germany, Holy Roman empress, Queen of Burgundy married Ernst I von Babenberg Herzog von Schwaben, son of Luitpold I (?) Mkgf der Bayrischen Ostmark and Richenza (?) of Saalfeld, in 1012
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Her 1st husband.2,4,9,17,14,18 Gisela von Schwaben Queen of Germany, Holy Roman empress, Queen of Burgundy married Konrad II "the Salic" (?) Holy Roman Emperor, son of Heinrich (?) Duke of Franconia, Graf von Speyer and Adelheid (?) of Alsace, between 1015 and 1017
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Her 3rd husband. Salian page says m. 1016; Weis [AR7] says m. 1015; Genealogics says m. 1017; Med Lands says m. 31 May 1015/Jan 1017.13,19,3,20,8,4,9,21,22
Gisela von Schwaben Queen of Germany, Holy Roman empress, Queen of Burgundy died on 14 February 1043 at Goslar, Landkreis Goslar, Lower Saxony (Niedersachsen), Germany, at age 52.13,2,19,3,8,4
Gisela von Schwaben Queen of Germany, Holy Roman empress, Queen of Burgundy was buried after 14 February 1043 at Cathedral of Speyer (Kaiser Dom), Speyer, Stadtkreis Speyer, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 11 Nov 999
DEATH 15 Feb 1043 (aged 43), Goslar, Landkreis Goslar, Lower Saxony (Niedersachsen), Germany
German Royalty. Duchess of Swabia, German Queen, and Roman Empress. Daughter of Hermann II of Swabia and Gerberge of Burgundy a granddaughter of Louis IV "d'Outre Mer" and Gerberge of Saxony. She was beautiful, intelligent and the heiress of a big fortune, so many wanted to marry her. She first married around 1002 Bruno of Brunswick. Around 1010 she married Duke Ernst I of Swabia and became the mother of the later Dukes Ernst II and Hermann IV. In 1016 she was married to Konrad II and was crowned queen in Cologne in September 1024. In 1027 they received the imperial crown from Pope John XIX in Rome. She gave birth to three children in this third marriage. Heinrich, born in 1017, would later become Emperor Heinrich II, and their daughter Mathilde married later King Henri I of France. Beatrix, their third child only lived for six years.
Family Members
Spouses
Brun I of Brunswick unknown–1010
Ernest I Duke of of Swabia unknown–1015
Konrad II unknown–1039
Children
Herman IV of Swabia 1010–1038
Heinrich III 1017–1056
Mathilde of Franconia 1026–1034
BURIAL Cathedral of Speyer, Speyer, Stadtkreis Speyer, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany
Created by: Lutetia
Added: 26 May 2008
Find a Grave Memorial 27095447.23
; Per Genealogics:
“Gisela was born about 993, the daughter of Hermann II, Herzog von Schwaben, and Gerberge de Bourgogne. Her first husband was Ernst, Herzog von Schwaben, son of Luitpold, Markgraf von der Ostmark, and his wife Richiza. They had two sons of whom Hermann IV would have progeny. When Ernst died in 1015 she became regent for their son Ernst II. She was then removed from the regency on grounds that she had been too closely related to her late husband. In the same year she married Graf Bruno von Braunschweig, with whom she had a son Liudolf who would have progeny.
“Her third marriage, in 1017, was to Konrad II, Graf von Speyer, the future Emperor Konrad II, son of Heinrich, Graf von Speyer, and Adelaide of Alsace. Both parties claimed descent from Emperor Otto I 'the Great' and were thus related. Strict canonists took exception to the marriage, and Emperor Heinrich II used this to force Konrad into temporary exile. They became reconciled, and upon Heinrich's death in 1024, her husband Konrad was elected as King of the Germans and crowned in Mainz on 8 September 1024. Heinrich became emperor in 1027. They had a son Heinrich III who would have progeny and succeed his father as emperor, and two daughters.
“Gisela played an active role in politics, attending imperial councils and had her relative the childless Rudolf III, king of Burgundy, transfer the succession of his realm to her husband. She also participated in several synods of the church.
“Gisela died of dysentery in the royal palace in Goslar on 14 February 1043. She is interred in the grotto of the cathedral of Speyer, along with several emperors and other members of the imperial family. Her tomb was opened in 1900 and Gisela's mummified body was found to be 172 cm tall, with long blond hair.”.4 GAV-28 EDV-28.
; This is the same person as ”Gisela of Swabia” at Wikipedia, as ”Gisèle de Souabe” at Wikipedia (FR.), and as ”Gisela von Schwaben” at Wikipedia (DE.)5,24,25
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, Band I, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. 4.4
; Per Genealogy.EU (Wetterau): “F3. Gisela, *990, +Goslar 15.2.1043, bur Speyer; 1m: Bruno von Braunschweig (+ca 1006); 2m: ca 1014 Duke Ernst I of Swabia (+31.5.1015); 3m: King Konrad II of Germany (*ca 990, +4.6.1039)”.9
; Per Med Lands:
"GISELA (11 Nov 990[146]-Goslar 16 Feb 1043, bur Speyer Cathedral). Herimannus names "sororis suæ [=Herimannus iunior dux Alamanniæ defunctus" as wife of Ernst when recording the latter's succession as Duke of Swabia in 1012[147]. Wipo names "Herimannus dux Alamanniæ [et] Kerbirga filia Chuonradi regis de Burgundia" as the parents of "regis coniunx Gisela"[148]. The Notæ Sancti Blasii name her "Gisla de Werle" when recording her three marriages[149]. The Annalista Saxo names her three husbands, although the order of her first and second marriages is interchanged, which appears impossible chronologically[150]. The necrology of Fulda records the death "1043 XVI Kal Mar" of "Gisela imp"[151]. Herimannus records her death at Goslar[152]. The Annales Spirenses record the burial at Speyer of "Heinricus senior [=Heinricus IV] et aviam suam"[153], the latter assumed to be Gisela his paternal grandmother rather than his maternal grandmother.
"m firstly ([1003/05]) BRUNO [I] Graf [von Braunschweig], son of EKBERT & his wife --- (-murdered [1010/11]).
"m secondly ([1012]) ERNST Duke of Swabia, son of LUITPOLD I Markgraf der bayerischen Ostmark [Babenberg-Austria] & his wife Richwara --- (-31 Mar 1015, bur Würzburg).
"m thirdly (before Jan 1017) KONRAD Herzog von Franken, son of HEINRICH Graf im Wormsgau [Salier] & his wife Adelheid of Metz [Matfriede] ([990]-Utrecht 4 Jun 1039, bur Speyer cathedral). He was elected KONRAD II King of Germany 4 Sep 1024, crowned at Mainz 8 Sep 1024. Crowned King of Italy at Milan Mar 1026. Crowned Emperor at Rome 26 Mar 1027."
Med Lands cites:
[146] Szabolcs de Vajay 'Mathilde, Reine de France inconnue', Journal des Savants (Oct-Dec 1971), pp. 241-60, 250 footnote 31.
[147] Herimanni Augiensis Chronicon 1012, MHG SS V, p. 119.
[148] Wiponis, Vita Chuonradi II Imperatoris 4, MGH SS XI, p. 261.
[149] Notæ Sancti Blasii, MGH SS XXIV, p. 827.
[150] Annalista Saxo 1026.
[151] Annales Necrologici Fuldenses, MGH SS XIII, p. 123.
[152] Herimanni Augiensis Chronicon 1043, MHG SS V, p. 124.14
[147] Herimanni Augiensis Chronicon 1012, MHG SS V, p. 119.
[148] Wiponis, Vita Chuonradi II Imperatoris 4, MGH SS XI, p. 261.
[149] Notæ Sancti Blasii, MGH SS XXIV, p. 827.
[150] Annalista Saxo 1026.
[151] Annales Necrologici Fuldenses, MGH SS XIII, p. 123.
[152] Herimanni Augiensis Chronicon 1043, MHG SS V, p. 124.14
; Per Med Lands:
"KONRAD of Franconia, son of HEINRICH Graf [im Wormsgau] & his wife Adelheid [Matfriede] ([990]-Utrecht 4 Jun 1039, bur Speyer cathedral). "Heinricus…Romanorum imperator augustus" renewed the privileges of Kloster Fulda by undated charter, placed in the compilation with other charters dated 1020, witnessed by "Godifridi ducis, Berinhardi ducis, Thiederici ducis, Welphonis comitis, Cunonis comitis, Kunrati comitis, Ottonis comitis, Adilbrahtis comitis, Bobonis comitis, Friderici comitis, Bezilini comitis, Ezonis comitis palatini"[344], the order of witnesses presumably giving some idea of the relative importance of these named nobles at the court of Emperor Heinrich II at the time. Herimannus names "Counradus senior, filius Heinrici et Adalheidæ" when recording his candidacy to succeed as king of Germany in 1024[345]. Thietmar names "Konrad who had illegally married his own cousin, the widow of Duke Ernst" when recording that he was wounded when Gerhard Graf von Metz (his maternal uncle) met Godefroi II Duke of Lower Lotharingia for "a judicial duel" 27 Aug 1017[346]. Wipo, in his description of the election of Konrad II King of Germany in 1024, calls him "Cuono of Worms Duke of the Franks" and "Cuono the Younger"[347]. He was elected as KONRAD II King of Germany at Chamba, Rheingau 4 Sep 1024, crowned at Mainz 8 Sep 1024. Crowned King of Italy at Milan in Mar 1026. Crowned Emperor KONRAD I at Rome 26 Mar 1027. Rudolf III King of Burgundy in 1032 bequeathed his kingdom to Emperor Konrad, who was crowned king of Burgundy at Payerne 2 Feb 1033[348]. Konrad's succession in Burgundy was challenged by his wife's first cousin Eudes II Comte de Blois, with support from Géraud Comte de Genève, but he consolidated his position by 1037 when he proclaimed a law which established the basis for the inheritance of titles and offices in the kingdom[349]. Founded Kloster Limburg 1024-1032. The necrology of Prüm records the death "II Non Iun" of "Cuonradus imperator"[350]. The Annales Spirenses record his burial at Speyer[351].
"m ([31 May 1015/Jan 1017]) as her third husband, GISELA of Swabia, widow firstly of BRUNO Graf [von Braunschweig], secondly of ERNST Duke of Swabia [Babenberg], daughter of HERMANN II Duke of Swabia & his wife Gerberga of Upper Burgundy (11 Nov 990-Goslar 15 Feb 1043, bur Speyer cathedral). The Annalista Saxo names her three husbands, although the order of her first and second marriages is interchanged which appears impossible chronologically[352]. She was crowned Queen of Germany at Köln 21 Sep 1024. Crowned empress, with her husband, at Rome 26 Mar 1027. The Annalista Saxo records the death of "Gisla imperatrix mater Heinrici regis" on "XVI Kal Martii" and her burial at Speyer[353]. The necrology of St Gall records the death "XV Kal Feb" of "Gisila imperatrix"[354]. Herimannus records her death at Goslar[355]. The Annales Spirenses record the burial at Speyer of "Heinricus senior [=Heinricus IV] et aviam suam"[356], the latter assumed to be his paternal grandmother Gisela rather than his maternal grandmother."
Med Lands cites:
[344] D H II 427, p. 542.
[345] Herimanni Augiensis Chronicon 1024, MHG SS V, p. 120.
[346] Thietmar 7.62, p. 352.
[347] Wipo, pp. 194 and 195.
[348] Poull (1994), p. 30.
[349] Marie José (1956) La Maison de Savoie, Les Origines, Le Comte Vert, Le Comte Rouge (Paris, Albin Michel), p. 32.
[350] Annales Necrologici Prumienses, MGH SS XIII, p. 219.
[351] Annales Spirenses, MGH SS XVII, p. 83.
[352] Annalista Saxo 1026.
[353] Annalista Saxo 1044.
[354] Libri Anniversariorum et Necrologium Monasterii Sancti Galli, Konstanz Necrologies, p. 462.
[355] Herimanni Augiensis Chronicon 1043, MHG SS V, p. 124.
[356] Annales Spirenses, MGH SS XVII, p. 83.22
[345] Herimanni Augiensis Chronicon 1024, MHG SS V, p. 120.
[346] Thietmar 7.62, p. 352.
[347] Wipo, pp. 194 and 195.
[348] Poull (1994), p. 30.
[349] Marie José (1956) La Maison de Savoie, Les Origines, Le Comte Vert, Le Comte Rouge (Paris, Albin Michel), p. 32.
[350] Annales Necrologici Prumienses, MGH SS XIII, p. 219.
[351] Annales Spirenses, MGH SS XVII, p. 83.
[352] Annalista Saxo 1026.
[353] Annalista Saxo 1044.
[354] Libri Anniversariorum et Necrologium Monasterii Sancti Galli, Konstanz Necrologies, p. 462.
[355] Herimanni Augiensis Chronicon 1043, MHG SS V, p. 124.
[356] Annales Spirenses, MGH SS XVII, p. 83.22
; Per Genealogy.EU (Salian): “[1m.] Konrad II "The Salian", King of Germany (1024-27), King of Italy (1026-39), Emperor (1027-39), King of Burgundy (1032-1038), *ca 990, +Speyer 4.6.1039; m.1016 Gisele (*13.11.989 +15.2.1043), dau.of Hermann II of Swabia”.3
; Per Richardson:
"Douglas Richardson Mar 26, 2006, 11:58:40 AM
"Duke Heinrich of Bavaria & Saxony (nicknamed the Lion), died 1195, referred in a charter dated before ?1190 to his late kinsman, Friedrich II, Count Palatine of Saxony, Count of Sommerschenburg, founder of Marienthal monastery ["... quam pie memorie Frithericus palatinus, fundator ipsius coenobii, cognatus noster") [Reference: Die Urkunden Heinrichs des Löwen Herzogs von Sachsen und Bayern (Monumenta Germaniae Historica, 500-1500) (1941): 181-182].
"Charting their respective ancestries, I find that three of Count Friedrich II's great-grandparents are unknown, which makes it difficult at best to be certain how the two men were related. Regardless, I find that one of Count Friedrich's great-grandparents, Bernard II, Count of Hövel, was in fact uncle to the ancestral line of Duke Heinrich. If this is the kinship intended, the two men were related in the 4th and 7th degrees of kindred, or if you prefer third cousins thrice removed, by virtue of common descent from Gerbege (or Guepa) of Burgundy, died 1018/9, but by different husbands, as charted below.
1. Gerberga (or Guepa) of Burgundy, died 1018/9, married (2nd) Herman II, Duke of Swabia.
2. Gisele of Swabia, married Bruno II, Count of Brunswick.
3. Liudolf, Count of Brunswick, died 1038.
4. Egbert, Count of Brunswick, died 1067/68.
5. Gertrud of Brunswick, married Heinrich, Count Northeim, Duke of Saxony.
6. Richensa of Northeim, Lothair III, Holy Roman Emperor.
7. Gertrud of Lotharinia, married Henry X, Duke of Bavaria & Saxony.
8. Heinrich "the Lion," Duke of Bavaria and Saxony, died 1195.
2. Gisele of Swabia, married Bruno II, Count of Brunswick.
3. Liudolf, Count of Brunswick, died 1038.
4. Egbert, Count of Brunswick, died 1067/68.
5. Gertrud of Brunswick, married Heinrich, Count Northeim, Duke of Saxony.
6. Richensa of Northeim, Lothair III, Holy Roman Emperor.
7. Gertrud of Lotharinia, married Henry X, Duke of Bavaria & Saxony.
8. Heinrich "the Lion," Duke of Bavaria and Saxony, died 1195.
1. Gerberge (or Guepa) of Burgundy, died 1018/9, married (1st) Bernard I, Count of Werl.
2. Bernard II, Count of Hövel, died after 1030.
3. Ida von Werl-Hövel, married Heinrich II, Count of Lauffen.
4. Adelheid of Lauffen, married (2nd) Friedrich I, Count Palatine of Saxony, Count of Sommerschenburg.
5. Friedrich II, Count Palatine of Saxony, Count of Sommerschenburg, died 1162.
2. Bernard II, Count of Hövel, died after 1030.
3. Ida von Werl-Hövel, married Heinrich II, Count of Lauffen.
4. Adelheid of Lauffen, married (2nd) Friedrich I, Count Palatine of Saxony, Count of Sommerschenburg.
5. Friedrich II, Count Palatine of Saxony, Count of Sommerschenburg, died 1162.
"For additional information on Friedrich II, Count Palatine of Saxony, Count of Sommerschenburg (died 1162), see the following website:
http://www.genealogie-mittelalter.de/sommerschenburger_pfalzgrafen_von_sachsen/friedrich_2_pfalzgraf_von_sachsen_1162/friedrich_2_pfalzgraf_von_sachsen_+_1162.html
"This post is part of a systematic, exhaustive study into the nature of kinship among high born medieval European families.
"Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
"Website: www.royalancestry.net“.26
; Per Med Lands:
"ERNST von Babenberg, son of LIUTPOLD I Markgraf der bayerischen Ostmark [Austria] & his wife Richwara [im Sualafeldgau] ([985/90]-31 Mar 1015, bur Würzburg). Thietmar names "Ernst son of Markgraf Leopold" when recording that he was among those sent by Heinrich II King of Germany to Lombardy after his election to quell unrest[189]. A list of names in the Verbrüderungsbuch of Reichenau abbey reads "Luitpold marches, Rihuuar, Iudita, Heinrich, Ernust, Poppo, Luitpold, Cunigurrt, Adalbr"[190], which appears to refer to Markgraf Luitpold, his wife and children. The Chronicle of Otto von Freising, interpolated in the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines, names "Ernesto duci Suevorum, fratri Alberti superioris Pannonis marchionis et archiepiscopi Treverensis Popponis" as first husband of "Gisila [imperatrix]"[191], although he was in fact her second husband. His birth date range is estimated on the basis of his marriage in [1012]. He succeeded in 1012 as ERNST I Duke of Swabia. The necrology of Fulda records the death in 1015 of "Ernst dux"[192]. Thietmar records that "Duke Ernst of Swabia" died on 31 Mar after a hunting accident and was buried in Würzburg next to his father "Markgraf Leopold"[193].
"m ([1012]) as her second husband, GISELA of Swabia, widow of BRUNO [I] Graf [von Braunschweig], daughter of HERMANN II Duke of Swabia & his wife Gerberga of Upper Burgundy ([990]-Goslar 1043). Herimannus names "sororis suæ [=Herimannus iunior dux Alamanniæ defunctus" as wife of Ernst when recording the latter's succession as Duke of Swabia in 1012[194]. Wipo names "Herimannus dux Alamanniæ [et] Kerbirga filia Chuonradi regis de Burgundia" as the parents of "regis coniunx Gisela"[195]. The Notæ Sancti Blasii name her "Gisla de Werle" when recording her three marriages[196]. The Annalista Saxo names her three husbands, although the order of her first and second marriages is interchanged which appears impossible chronologically[197]. She married thirdly (before Jan 1017) Konrad Duke of Franconia, later Emperor Konrad II King of Germany. The necrology of Fulda records the death "1043 XVI Kal Mar" of "Gisela imp"[198]. Herimannus records her death at Goslar[199]. The Annales Spirenses record the burial at Speyer of "Heinricus senior [=Heinricus IV] et aviam suam"[200], the latter assumed to be Gisela his paternal grandmother rather than his maternal grandmother."
Med Lands cites:
[189] Thietmar 5.24, p. 222.
[190] Autenrioth, J. (1979) Das Verbrüderungsbuch der Abtei Reichenau (Hannover), p. 146, available at (31 Dec 2006).
[191] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1024, MGH SS XXIII, p. 782.
[192] Annales Necrologici Fuldenses, MGH SS XIII, p. 123.
[193] Thietmar 7.14, pp. 316-7.
[194] Herimanni Augiensis Chronicon 1012, MHG SS V, p. 119.
[195] Wiponis, Vita Chuonradi II Imperatoris 4, MGH SS XI, p. 261.
[196] Notæ Sancti Blasii, MGH SS XXIV, p. 827.
[197] Annalista Saxo 1026.
[198] Annales Necrologici Fuldenses, MGH SS XIII, p. 123.
[199] Herimanni Augiensis Chronicon 1043, MHG SS V, p. 124.
[200] Annales Spirenses, MGH SS XVII, p. 83.18
[190] Autenrioth, J. (1979) Das Verbrüderungsbuch der Abtei Reichenau (Hannover), p. 146, available at
[191] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1024, MGH SS XXIII, p. 782.
[192] Annales Necrologici Fuldenses, MGH SS XIII, p. 123.
[193] Thietmar 7.14, pp. 316-7.
[194] Herimanni Augiensis Chronicon 1012, MHG SS V, p. 119.
[195] Wiponis, Vita Chuonradi II Imperatoris 4, MGH SS XI, p. 261.
[196] Notæ Sancti Blasii, MGH SS XXIV, p. 827.
[197] Annalista Saxo 1026.
[198] Annales Necrologici Fuldenses, MGH SS XIII, p. 123.
[199] Herimanni Augiensis Chronicon 1043, MHG SS V, p. 124.
[200] Annales Spirenses, MGH SS XVII, p. 83.18
; Per Genealogy.EU (Babenberg): “E3. Ernst I, Duke of Swabia (1012-15), *before 984, +k.in hunting accident 31.5.1015; m.ca 1014 Gisela (*ca 990 +Goslar 15.2.1043) dau.of Duke Herman II of Swabia”.27
; Per Med Lands:
"BRUNO, son of [EKBERT "der Einäugige Graf im Hastfalagau] & his wife --- ([975/85]-murdered near Niedorp[10] [1010/11][11]). There is no proof that Bruno von Braunschweig was the son of Ekbert "der Einäugige" but this appears probable in view of the names which are common to the two families and also the common references to the Derlingau. Bruno is shown in Europäische Stammtafeln as the brother of Wichmann [III] Graf im Duffelgau and Ekbert Graf im Derlingau, while another table shows Wichmann [III] as son of Ekbert[12]. His birth date range is estimated from his estimated marriage date. The estimated birth date ranges of both Wichmann [III] and Bruno are consistent with their having been brothers. Bruno founded Braunschweig. He was a candidate for the German throne in 1002[13] in opposition to Heinrich IV Duke of Bavaria, who was elected as Heinrich II King of Germany.
"m ([1003/05]) as her first husband, GISELA of Swabia, daughter of HERMANN II Duke of Swabia & his wife Gerberga of Upper Burgundy (11 Nov 990-Goslar 16 Feb 1043, bur Speyer Cathedral). The Annalista Saxo names her three husbands, although the order of her first and second marriages is interchanged which appears impossible chronologically[14]. The necrology of Fulda records the death "1043 16 Kal Mar" of "Gisela imp"[15]. She married secondly ([1014]) Ernst Duke of Swabia [Babenberg] and thirdly Konrad II Herzog von Franken, who succeeded in 1024 as Konrad II King of Germany, and was crowned as Emperor Konrad I in 1027. "
Med Lands cites:
[10] Annalista Saxo 1038.
[11] Szabolcs de Vajay 'Mathilde, Reine de France inconnue', Journal des Savants (Oct-Dec 1971), pp. 241-60, 250 footnote 31.
[12] ES VIII 131a and ES I.1 11 respectively.
[13] Vajay 'Mathilde', p. 251 footnote 35.
[14] Annalista Saxo 1026.
[15] Annales Necrologici Fuldenses, MGH SS XIII, p. 123.15
She was Queen consort of Germany between 1024 and 1028.5 She was Holy Roman Empress between 1027 and 1039.5 She was Queen consort of Burgundy between 1032 and 1032.5[11] Szabolcs de Vajay 'Mathilde, Reine de France inconnue', Journal des Savants (Oct-Dec 1971), pp. 241-60, 250 footnote 31.
[12] ES VIII 131a and ES I.1 11 respectively.
[13] Vajay 'Mathilde', p. 251 footnote 35.
[14] Annalista Saxo 1026.
[15] Annales Necrologici Fuldenses, MGH SS XIII, p. 123.15
Family 1 | Bruno|Burin|Brun I (?) Graf von Braunschweig b. bt 960 - 980, d. c 1014 |
Child |
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Family 2 | Ernst I von Babenberg Herzog von Schwaben b. c 970, d. 31 May 1015 |
Children |
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Family 3 | Konrad II "the Salic" (?) Holy Roman Emperor b. c 990, d. 4 Jun 1039 |
Children |
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Konrad II "the Salic" (?) Holy Roman Emperor1,2,3
M, #6629, b. circa 990, d. 4 June 1039
Father | Heinrich (?) Duke of Franconia, Graf von Speyer2,4,5,6 b. c 970, d. 995 |
Mother | Adelheid (?) of Alsace2,5,6 b. 975, d. bt 19 May 1039 - 1046 |
Reference | GAV28 EDV28 |
Last Edited | 1 Jul 2020 |
Konrad II "the Salic" (?) Holy Roman Emperor was born circa 990.2,5,6 He married Gisela von Schwaben Queen of Germany, Holy Roman empress, Queen of Burgundy, daughter of Hermann II (?) Duke of Swabia and Gerberge/Guepa (?) de Bourgogne, between 1015 and 1017
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Her 3rd husband. Salian page says m. 1016; Weis [AR7] says m. 1015; Genealogics says m. 1017; Med Lands says m. 31 May 1015/Jan 1017.7,1,2,8,9,10,11,5,6
Konrad II "the Salic" (?) Holy Roman Emperor died on 4 June 1039 at Utrecht, Utrecht Municipality, Utrecht, Netherlands (now).12,1,2,5,6
Konrad II "the Salic" (?) Holy Roman Emperor was buried after 4 June 1039 at Cathedral of Speyer (Kaiser Dom), Speyer, Stadtkreis Speyer, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany; Per Wikipedia: "A year later in 1039 Conrad fell ill and died of gout in Utrecht.[76] His heart and bowels are buried at the Cathedral of Saint Martin, Utrecht.[77] His body was transferred to Speyer via Cologne, Mainz, and Worms, where the funeral procession made stops. His body is buried at Speyer Cathedral, which was still under construction at this time. During a major excavation in 1900 his sarcophagus was relocated from his original resting place in front of the altar to the crypt, where it is still visible today along with those of seven of his successors."
From Find A Grave:
BIRTH unknown, Speyer, Stadtkreis Speyer, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany
DEATH 4 Jun 1039, Utrecht, Utrecht Municipality, Utrecht, Netherlands
Royalty, Roman emperor, King of Germany, Italy and Burgundy. He was the son of count Heinrich von Speyer, a great-grandson of emperor Otto I the Great, and his wife Adele of Metz. He was the first of the Salian kings and emperors that reigned the empire until 1125. When his mother remarried she gave him to the Bishop of Worms to be raised. During his childhood his claims to his inheritance were lost to relatives. He was powerless, poor and unable to read or write, but his marriage to the rich, beautiful and intelligent Gilsela of Swabia changed his situation vastly. Although he wasn't even a count he was elected German king on September 4th, 1024 and was crowned four days later in Mainz, succeeding Heinrich II. He had a good sense for politics and focused only on possible goals. He named his son Heinrich as his successor and gave the child the duchy of Bavaria. After his first campaign against rebelling nobles in Italy he was crowned King of Italy in 1026. A year later, in March 1027 he was crowned emperor in Rome by Pope John XIX. A campaign against Mieszko II of Poland ended in 1033 with the complete surrender of the polish duke who lost some of his territories and had to accept the German control over Poland. In the same year king Rudolf III of Burgundy died and following a contract from 1006 Burgundy became part of the empire and Konrad was crowned King of Burgundy. He founded the Monastery of Limburg an der Hardt and started the building of the Cathedral of Speyer which he intended to be the burial place for his family. In March 1039 the court stayed in the palatine Nymwegen and later went to Utrecht for Pentecost. He seems to have been unwell for a while and when he visited mass on Sunday he had to be supported by his wife. On Monday, when he wanted to rise for lunch he was hit by a seizure and all attending bishops were called to give him the last rites. He died fast and had barely any time to say goodbye to his family. While his intestines were buried in the Cathedral of Utrecht, his body was brought to Speyer. The funeral procession passed through Cologne, Koblenz, Worms, Mainz to Speyer. He was brought before every altar of every church in the cities they passed. They reached Speyer nearly a month after his death and he was buried in the unfinished cathedral on July 3rd. Bio by: Lutetia
Family Members
Parents
Heinrich of Speyer
Adelheid von Metz unknown–1039
Spouse
Gisela of Swabia 999–1043
Siblings
Judith von Speyer
Gebhard III von Hohenlohe 1002–1060
Children
Heinrich III 1017–1056
Mathilde of Franconia 1026–1034
BURIAL Cathedral of Speyer, Speyer, Stadtkreis Speyer, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany
Created by: Lutetia
Added: 12 Jun 2008
Find a Grave Memorial 27501042.13,14
; Per Genealogy.EU (Wetterau): “F3. Gisela, *990, +Goslar 15.2.1043, bur Speyer; 1m: Bruno von Braunschweig (+ca 1006); 2m: ca 1014 Duke Ernst I of Swabia (+31.5.1015); 3m: King Konrad II of Germany (*ca 990, +4.6.1039)”.11
; Per Med Lands:
"GISELA (11 Nov 990[146]-Goslar 16 Feb 1043, bur Speyer Cathedral). Herimannus names "sororis suæ [=Herimannus iunior dux Alamanniæ defunctus" as wife of Ernst when recording the latter's succession as Duke of Swabia in 1012[147]. Wipo names "Herimannus dux Alamanniæ [et] Kerbirga filia Chuonradi regis de Burgundia" as the parents of "regis coniunx Gisela"[148]. The Notæ Sancti Blasii name her "Gisla de Werle" when recording her three marriages[149]. The Annalista Saxo names her three husbands, although the order of her first and second marriages is interchanged, which appears impossible chronologically[150]. The necrology of Fulda records the death "1043 XVI Kal Mar" of "Gisela imp"[151]. Herimannus records her death at Goslar[152]. The Annales Spirenses record the burial at Speyer of "Heinricus senior [=Heinricus IV] et aviam suam"[153], the latter assumed to be Gisela his paternal grandmother rather than his maternal grandmother.
"m firstly ([1003/05]) BRUNO [I] Graf [von Braunschweig], son of EKBERT & his wife --- (-murdered [1010/11]).
"m secondly ([1012]) ERNST Duke of Swabia, son of LUITPOLD I Markgraf der bayerischen Ostmark [Babenberg-Austria] & his wife Richwara --- (-31 Mar 1015, bur Würzburg).
"m thirdly (before Jan 1017) KONRAD Herzog von Franken, son of HEINRICH Graf im Wormsgau [Salier] & his wife Adelheid of Metz [Matfriede] ([990]-Utrecht 4 Jun 1039, bur Speyer cathedral). He was elected KONRAD II King of Germany 4 Sep 1024, crowned at Mainz 8 Sep 1024. Crowned King of Italy at Milan Mar 1026. Crowned Emperor at Rome 26 Mar 1027."
Med Lands cites:
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; This is the same person as:
”Conrad II, Holy Roman Emperor” at Wikipedia, as
”Conrad II le Salique” at Wikipédia (Fr.),
and as ”Konrad II. (HRR)” at Wikipedia (De.)14,16,17 Konrad II "the Salic" (?) Holy Roman Emperor was also known as Konrad II (?) Emperor of Germany.18 Konrad II "the Salic" (?) Holy Roman Emperor was also known as Conrad II "The Salic" (?) Emperor of Germany.
; Per Genealogics:
“Konrad II was born about 990, the son of a mid-level nobleman in Franconia, Heinrich, Graf von Speyer, and Adelaide of Alsace. Konrad's father was a grandson of Luidgard von Sachsen, a daughter of the great Emperor Otto I who had married the Salian Duke Konrad 'the Red' of Lorraine.
“Konrad inherited the titles of Count of Speyer and of Worms as an infant when Heinrich died aged only twenty. The orphaned Konrad grew up poor by the standards of the nobility and was raised by the bishop of Worms.
“He was reputed to be prudent and firm out of his consciousness of deprivation. In 1016 he married Gisela von Schwaben, a twice widowed duchess who was the daughter of Hermann II, Herzog von Schwaben, and Gerberge de Bourgogne. Both parties claimed descent from Emperor Otto I 'the Great' and were thus related. Strict canonists took exception to the marriage, and Emperor Heinrich II used this to force Konrad into temporary exile.
“They became reconciled, and upon Heinrich's death in 1024, Konrad appeared as a candidate before the electoral assembly of princes at Kamba in the Rhineland. He was elected by the majority and was crowned king in Mainz on 8 September 1024, arguably in the prime of life. It was equally obvious that the Saxon line of emperors was at an end, and all of Europe speculated and manoeuvred to influence the prince-electors in unseemly disrespect for the aging Heinrich II. The Italian bishops paid homage at Konrad's court at Konstanz in June 1025, but lay princes sought to elect Guillaume V of Aquitaine as king instead. However early in 1026 Konrad went to Milan, where Ariberto, archbishop of Milan, crowned him king of Italy. After overcoming some opposition from the towns Konrad reached Rome, where Pope John XIX crowned him emperor at Easter 1027.
“He formally confirmed the popular legal traditions of Saxony and issued a new constitution for Lombardy. In 1028 at Aachen he had his son Heinrich elected and anointed German king. Heinrich married Gunhild of Denmark, daughter of Knud 'den Store', king of England, Denmark and Norway, and Emma of Normandy. This was an arrangement that Konrad had made many years before, when he gave Knud parts of northern Germany to administer. Heinrich, the later Emperor Heinrich III, became chief counsellor of his father.
“Konrad campaigned against Poland in 1028 and forced Mieszko II, son and heir of Boleslaw I, to make peace and return land that Boleslaw had conquered from the empire. At the death of Heinrich II the bold and rebellious Mieszko II had tried to throw off his vassalage, but he then submitted and swore to be Emperor Konrad's faithful vassal. Mieszko II ceased to be a self-anointed king and reverted to being duke of Poland.
“In 1029 some Bavarian border conflicts undermined the good relations with Stephan I of Hungary. One year later Konrad launched a campaign against Hungary. The Hungarians successfully used scorched earth tactics and the emperor had to withdraw with his army. Finally the Hungarian army forced him to surrender at Vienna. After his defeat Konrad was obliged to cede some border territory to Hungary.
“When Rudolph III, king of Burgundy died on 2 February 1032 he bequeathed his kingdom, which combined two earlier kingdoms of Burgundy, to Konrad. Despite some opposition, the Burgundian and Provencal nobles paid homage to Konrad in Zürich in 1034. This kingdom of Burgundy, which under Konrad's successors would become known as the kingdom of Arles, corresponded to most of the south-eastern quarter of modern France and included western Switzerland, the Franche-Comté and Dauphiné. It did not include the smaller duchy of Burgundy to the north, ruled by a cadet branch of the Capetian kings of France. (Piecemeal over the next centuries most of the former kingdom of Arles was incorporated into France - but King of Arles remained one of the Holy Roman Emperor's subsidiary titles until the dissolution of the Empire in 1806.)
“Konrad upheld the rights of the _valvassores_ (knights and burghers of the cities) of Italy against Archbishop Aribert of Milan and the local nobles. The nobles as vassal lords and the bishop conspired to rescind rights from the burghers. With skilful diplomacy and luck Konrad restored order.
“In 1038, Prince Guaimar IV of Salerno requested his adjudication in a dispute over Capua with its Prince Pandulf, whom Konrad had released from imprisonment in 1024, immediately after his coronation. Hearing that the Byzantine Emperor Michael IV 'the Paphlagonian' had received the same request, Konrad travelled to Salerno and Aversa in Southern Italy.
“He appointed Richer, from Germany, as abbot of Monte Cassino, the abbot Theobald being imprisoned by Pandulf. At Troia, he ordered Pandulf to restore stolen property to Monte Cassino. Pandulf sent his wife and son to ask for peace, giving 300 pounds weight of gold and a son and daughter as hostages. The emperor accepted Pandulf's offer, but the hostages escaped and Pandulf took refuge in his outlying castle of Sant'Agata dei Goti. Konrad besieged and took Capua and gave it to Guaimar with the title of Prince. He also recognised Aversa as a county of Salerno under Pandulf Drengot, the Norman adventurer. Pandulf of Capua, meanwhile fled to Constantinople. Konrad thus left the Mezzogiorno firmly in Guiamar's hands and loyal, for once, to the Holy Roman Empire.
“During Konrad's return to Germany an epidemic broke out among his troops. Konrad's daughter-in-law and stepson died. Konrad himself returned safely and held several important courts in Solothurn, Strasbourg and Goslar. His son Heinrich was invested with the kingdom of Burgundy.
“A year later in 1039 Konrad fell ill. He died in Utrecht on 4 June 1039. A biography of Konrad II in chronicle form, _Gesta Chuonradi II imperatoris,_ was written by his chaplain Wipo of Burgundy, and presented to Heinrich III in 1046, not long after Heinrich's coronation as emperor.”.5 Konrad II "the Salic" (?) Holy Roman Emperor was also known as Conrad II (?) Emperor of Germany.
; Per Genealogy.EU (Salian): “[1m.] Konrad II "The Salian", King of Germany (1024-27), King of Italy (1026-39), Emperor (1027-39), King of Burgundy (1032-1038), *ca 990, +Speyer 4.6.1039; m.1016 Gisele (*13.11.989 +15.2.1043), dau.of Hermann II of Swabia”.2
; Per Med Lands:
"KONRAD of Franconia, son of HEINRICH Graf [im Wormsgau] & his wife Adelheid [Matfriede] ([990]-Utrecht 4 Jun 1039, bur Speyer cathedral). "Heinricus…Romanorum imperator augustus" renewed the privileges of Kloster Fulda by undated charter, placed in the compilation with other charters dated 1020, witnessed by "Godifridi ducis, Berinhardi ducis, Thiederici ducis, Welphonis comitis, Cunonis comitis, Kunrati comitis, Ottonis comitis, Adilbrahtis comitis, Bobonis comitis, Friderici comitis, Bezilini comitis, Ezonis comitis palatini"[344], the order of witnesses presumably giving some idea of the relative importance of these named nobles at the court of Emperor Heinrich II at the time. Herimannus names "Counradus senior, filius Heinrici et Adalheidæ" when recording his candidacy to succeed as king of Germany in 1024[345]. Thietmar names "Konrad who had illegally married his own cousin, the widow of Duke Ernst" when recording that he was wounded when Gerhard Graf von Metz (his maternal uncle) met Godefroi II Duke of Lower Lotharingia for "a judicial duel" 27 Aug 1017[346]. Wipo, in his description of the election of Konrad II King of Germany in 1024, calls him "Cuono of Worms Duke of the Franks" and "Cuono the Younger"[347]. He was elected as KONRAD II King of Germany at Chamba, Rheingau 4 Sep 1024, crowned at Mainz 8 Sep 1024. Crowned King of Italy at Milan in Mar 1026. Crowned Emperor KONRAD I at Rome 26 Mar 1027. Rudolf III King of Burgundy in 1032 bequeathed his kingdom to Emperor Konrad, who was crowned king of Burgundy at Payerne 2 Feb 1033[348]. Konrad's succession in Burgundy was challenged by his wife's first cousin Eudes II Comte de Blois, with support from Géraud Comte de Genève, but he consolidated his position by 1037 when he proclaimed a law which established the basis for the inheritance of titles and offices in the kingdom[349]. Founded Kloster Limburg 1024-1032. The necrology of Prüm records the death "II Non Iun" of "Cuonradus imperator"[350]. The Annales Spirenses record his burial at Speyer[351].
"m ([31 May 1015/Jan 1017]) as her third husband, GISELA of Swabia, widow firstly of BRUNO Graf [von Braunschweig], secondly of ERNST Duke of Swabia [Babenberg], daughter of HERMANN II Duke of Swabia & his wife Gerberga of Upper Burgundy (11 Nov 990-Goslar 15 Feb 1043, bur Speyer cathedral). The Annalista Saxo names her three husbands, although the order of her first and second marriages is interchanged which appears impossible chronologically[352]. She was crowned Queen of Germany at Köln 21 Sep 1024. Crowned empress, with her husband, at Rome 26 Mar 1027. The Annalista Saxo records the death of "Gisla imperatrix mater Heinrici regis" on "XVI Kal Martii" and her burial at Speyer[353]. The necrology of St Gall records the death "XV Kal Feb" of "Gisila imperatrix"[354]. Herimannus records her death at Goslar[355]. The Annales Spirenses record the burial at Speyer of "Heinricus senior [=Heinricus IV] et aviam suam"[356], the latter assumed to be his paternal grandmother Gisela rather than his maternal grandmother."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Enc. of World History:
“Conrad II (the Salian). He continued the general policy of Henry: personally interested only in the churches of Limburg and Speyer, he was firm in his dealings with the Church in general and relied on the lesser nobles to balance the clergy and magnates. The ministeriales, laymen of servile origin, were used to replace the clergy in many administrative posts; regalian rights were retained and exploited. Dukedoms were not regranted as they fell vacant, but were assigned to Conrad's son Henry, who, on his accession to the crown, held all but the duchies of Lorraine and Saxony. By encouraging the making of fiefs heritable, Conrad weakened the dukes and got the support of the lesser nobles but ensured the ultimate feudalization of Germany. Conrad's brilliant imperial coronation (1027), in Rome, was witnessed by two kings, Canute the Great and Rudolf III of Burgundy. Burgundy, willed to Conrad by Rudolf III and guardian of one road to Italy, was reincorporated (1033) in the empire on the death of Rudolf. Failure of an expedition (1030) against Stephen of Hungary; successful disciplinary expedition (1031) against the Poles; recovery of Lusatia; payment of homage by the Poles.”.19 He was King of Germand between 8 September 1024 and 4 June 1039.14 He was King of Italy between 1026 and 1039.2 He was King of Italy between 31 March 1026 and 6 April 1039.14 He was Holy Roman Emperor between 26 March 1027 and 4 June 1039.20,2,3,14 He was King of Burgundy between 6 September 1032 and 4 June 1039.2,14
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Her 3rd husband. Salian page says m. 1016; Weis [AR7] says m. 1015; Genealogics says m. 1017; Med Lands says m. 31 May 1015/Jan 1017.7,1,2,8,9,10,11,5,6
Konrad II "the Salic" (?) Holy Roman Emperor died on 4 June 1039 at Utrecht, Utrecht Municipality, Utrecht, Netherlands (now).12,1,2,5,6
Konrad II "the Salic" (?) Holy Roman Emperor was buried after 4 June 1039 at Cathedral of Speyer (Kaiser Dom), Speyer, Stadtkreis Speyer, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany; Per Wikipedia: "A year later in 1039 Conrad fell ill and died of gout in Utrecht.[76] His heart and bowels are buried at the Cathedral of Saint Martin, Utrecht.[77] His body was transferred to Speyer via Cologne, Mainz, and Worms, where the funeral procession made stops. His body is buried at Speyer Cathedral, which was still under construction at this time. During a major excavation in 1900 his sarcophagus was relocated from his original resting place in front of the altar to the crypt, where it is still visible today along with those of seven of his successors."
From Find A Grave:
BIRTH unknown, Speyer, Stadtkreis Speyer, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany
DEATH 4 Jun 1039, Utrecht, Utrecht Municipality, Utrecht, Netherlands
Royalty, Roman emperor, King of Germany, Italy and Burgundy. He was the son of count Heinrich von Speyer, a great-grandson of emperor Otto I the Great, and his wife Adele of Metz. He was the first of the Salian kings and emperors that reigned the empire until 1125. When his mother remarried she gave him to the Bishop of Worms to be raised. During his childhood his claims to his inheritance were lost to relatives. He was powerless, poor and unable to read or write, but his marriage to the rich, beautiful and intelligent Gilsela of Swabia changed his situation vastly. Although he wasn't even a count he was elected German king on September 4th, 1024 and was crowned four days later in Mainz, succeeding Heinrich II. He had a good sense for politics and focused only on possible goals. He named his son Heinrich as his successor and gave the child the duchy of Bavaria. After his first campaign against rebelling nobles in Italy he was crowned King of Italy in 1026. A year later, in March 1027 he was crowned emperor in Rome by Pope John XIX. A campaign against Mieszko II of Poland ended in 1033 with the complete surrender of the polish duke who lost some of his territories and had to accept the German control over Poland. In the same year king Rudolf III of Burgundy died and following a contract from 1006 Burgundy became part of the empire and Konrad was crowned King of Burgundy. He founded the Monastery of Limburg an der Hardt and started the building of the Cathedral of Speyer which he intended to be the burial place for his family. In March 1039 the court stayed in the palatine Nymwegen and later went to Utrecht for Pentecost. He seems to have been unwell for a while and when he visited mass on Sunday he had to be supported by his wife. On Monday, when he wanted to rise for lunch he was hit by a seizure and all attending bishops were called to give him the last rites. He died fast and had barely any time to say goodbye to his family. While his intestines were buried in the Cathedral of Utrecht, his body was brought to Speyer. The funeral procession passed through Cologne, Koblenz, Worms, Mainz to Speyer. He was brought before every altar of every church in the cities they passed. They reached Speyer nearly a month after his death and he was buried in the unfinished cathedral on July 3rd. Bio by: Lutetia
Family Members
Parents
Heinrich of Speyer
Adelheid von Metz unknown–1039
Spouse
Gisela of Swabia 999–1043
Siblings
Judith von Speyer
Gebhard III von Hohenlohe 1002–1060
Children
Heinrich III 1017–1056
Mathilde of Franconia 1026–1034
BURIAL Cathedral of Speyer, Speyer, Stadtkreis Speyer, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany
Created by: Lutetia
Added: 12 Jun 2008
Find a Grave Memorial 27501042.13,14
; Per Genealogy.EU (Wetterau): “F3. Gisela, *990, +Goslar 15.2.1043, bur Speyer; 1m: Bruno von Braunschweig (+ca 1006); 2m: ca 1014 Duke Ernst I of Swabia (+31.5.1015); 3m: King Konrad II of Germany (*ca 990, +4.6.1039)”.11
; Per Med Lands:
"GISELA (11 Nov 990[146]-Goslar 16 Feb 1043, bur Speyer Cathedral). Herimannus names "sororis suæ [=Herimannus iunior dux Alamanniæ defunctus" as wife of Ernst when recording the latter's succession as Duke of Swabia in 1012[147]. Wipo names "Herimannus dux Alamanniæ [et] Kerbirga filia Chuonradi regis de Burgundia" as the parents of "regis coniunx Gisela"[148]. The Notæ Sancti Blasii name her "Gisla de Werle" when recording her three marriages[149]. The Annalista Saxo names her three husbands, although the order of her first and second marriages is interchanged, which appears impossible chronologically[150]. The necrology of Fulda records the death "1043 XVI Kal Mar" of "Gisela imp"[151]. Herimannus records her death at Goslar[152]. The Annales Spirenses record the burial at Speyer of "Heinricus senior [=Heinricus IV] et aviam suam"[153], the latter assumed to be Gisela his paternal grandmother rather than his maternal grandmother.
"m firstly ([1003/05]) BRUNO [I] Graf [von Braunschweig], son of EKBERT & his wife --- (-murdered [1010/11]).
"m secondly ([1012]) ERNST Duke of Swabia, son of LUITPOLD I Markgraf der bayerischen Ostmark [Babenberg-Austria] & his wife Richwara --- (-31 Mar 1015, bur Würzburg).
"m thirdly (before Jan 1017) KONRAD Herzog von Franken, son of HEINRICH Graf im Wormsgau [Salier] & his wife Adelheid of Metz [Matfriede] ([990]-Utrecht 4 Jun 1039, bur Speyer cathedral). He was elected KONRAD II King of Germany 4 Sep 1024, crowned at Mainz 8 Sep 1024. Crowned King of Italy at Milan Mar 1026. Crowned Emperor at Rome 26 Mar 1027."
Med Lands cites:
[146] Szabolcs de Vajay 'Mathilde, Reine de France inconnue', Journal des Savants (Oct-Dec 1971), pp. 241-60, 250 footnote 31.
[147] Herimanni Augiensis Chronicon 1012, MHG SS V, p. 119.
[148] Wiponis, Vita Chuonradi II Imperatoris 4, MGH SS XI, p. 261.
[149] Notæ Sancti Blasii, MGH SS XXIV, p. 827.
[150] Annalista Saxo 1026.
[151] Annales Necrologici Fuldenses, MGH SS XIII, p. 123.
[152] Herimanni Augiensis Chronicon 1043, MHG SS V, p. 124.15
[147] Herimanni Augiensis Chronicon 1012, MHG SS V, p. 119.
[148] Wiponis, Vita Chuonradi II Imperatoris 4, MGH SS XI, p. 261.
[149] Notæ Sancti Blasii, MGH SS XXIV, p. 827.
[150] Annalista Saxo 1026.
[151] Annales Necrologici Fuldenses, MGH SS XIII, p. 123.
[152] Herimanni Augiensis Chronicon 1043, MHG SS V, p. 124.15
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: I 4.
2. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America bef.1700 7th Edition, 1992, Frederick Lewis Weis, Reference: 46.5
GAV-28 EDV-28. 2. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America bef.1700 7th Edition, 1992, Frederick Lewis Weis, Reference: 46.5
; This is the same person as:
”Conrad II, Holy Roman Emperor” at Wikipedia, as
”Conrad II le Salique” at Wikipédia (Fr.),
and as ”Konrad II. (HRR)” at Wikipedia (De.)14,16,17 Konrad II "the Salic" (?) Holy Roman Emperor was also known as Konrad II (?) Emperor of Germany.18 Konrad II "the Salic" (?) Holy Roman Emperor was also known as Conrad II "The Salic" (?) Emperor of Germany.
; Per Genealogics:
“Konrad II was born about 990, the son of a mid-level nobleman in Franconia, Heinrich, Graf von Speyer, and Adelaide of Alsace. Konrad's father was a grandson of Luidgard von Sachsen, a daughter of the great Emperor Otto I who had married the Salian Duke Konrad 'the Red' of Lorraine.
“Konrad inherited the titles of Count of Speyer and of Worms as an infant when Heinrich died aged only twenty. The orphaned Konrad grew up poor by the standards of the nobility and was raised by the bishop of Worms.
“He was reputed to be prudent and firm out of his consciousness of deprivation. In 1016 he married Gisela von Schwaben, a twice widowed duchess who was the daughter of Hermann II, Herzog von Schwaben, and Gerberge de Bourgogne. Both parties claimed descent from Emperor Otto I 'the Great' and were thus related. Strict canonists took exception to the marriage, and Emperor Heinrich II used this to force Konrad into temporary exile.
“They became reconciled, and upon Heinrich's death in 1024, Konrad appeared as a candidate before the electoral assembly of princes at Kamba in the Rhineland. He was elected by the majority and was crowned king in Mainz on 8 September 1024, arguably in the prime of life. It was equally obvious that the Saxon line of emperors was at an end, and all of Europe speculated and manoeuvred to influence the prince-electors in unseemly disrespect for the aging Heinrich II. The Italian bishops paid homage at Konrad's court at Konstanz in June 1025, but lay princes sought to elect Guillaume V of Aquitaine as king instead. However early in 1026 Konrad went to Milan, where Ariberto, archbishop of Milan, crowned him king of Italy. After overcoming some opposition from the towns Konrad reached Rome, where Pope John XIX crowned him emperor at Easter 1027.
“He formally confirmed the popular legal traditions of Saxony and issued a new constitution for Lombardy. In 1028 at Aachen he had his son Heinrich elected and anointed German king. Heinrich married Gunhild of Denmark, daughter of Knud 'den Store', king of England, Denmark and Norway, and Emma of Normandy. This was an arrangement that Konrad had made many years before, when he gave Knud parts of northern Germany to administer. Heinrich, the later Emperor Heinrich III, became chief counsellor of his father.
“Konrad campaigned against Poland in 1028 and forced Mieszko II, son and heir of Boleslaw I, to make peace and return land that Boleslaw had conquered from the empire. At the death of Heinrich II the bold and rebellious Mieszko II had tried to throw off his vassalage, but he then submitted and swore to be Emperor Konrad's faithful vassal. Mieszko II ceased to be a self-anointed king and reverted to being duke of Poland.
“In 1029 some Bavarian border conflicts undermined the good relations with Stephan I of Hungary. One year later Konrad launched a campaign against Hungary. The Hungarians successfully used scorched earth tactics and the emperor had to withdraw with his army. Finally the Hungarian army forced him to surrender at Vienna. After his defeat Konrad was obliged to cede some border territory to Hungary.
“When Rudolph III, king of Burgundy died on 2 February 1032 he bequeathed his kingdom, which combined two earlier kingdoms of Burgundy, to Konrad. Despite some opposition, the Burgundian and Provencal nobles paid homage to Konrad in Zürich in 1034. This kingdom of Burgundy, which under Konrad's successors would become known as the kingdom of Arles, corresponded to most of the south-eastern quarter of modern France and included western Switzerland, the Franche-Comté and Dauphiné. It did not include the smaller duchy of Burgundy to the north, ruled by a cadet branch of the Capetian kings of France. (Piecemeal over the next centuries most of the former kingdom of Arles was incorporated into France - but King of Arles remained one of the Holy Roman Emperor's subsidiary titles until the dissolution of the Empire in 1806.)
“Konrad upheld the rights of the _valvassores_ (knights and burghers of the cities) of Italy against Archbishop Aribert of Milan and the local nobles. The nobles as vassal lords and the bishop conspired to rescind rights from the burghers. With skilful diplomacy and luck Konrad restored order.
“In 1038, Prince Guaimar IV of Salerno requested his adjudication in a dispute over Capua with its Prince Pandulf, whom Konrad had released from imprisonment in 1024, immediately after his coronation. Hearing that the Byzantine Emperor Michael IV 'the Paphlagonian' had received the same request, Konrad travelled to Salerno and Aversa in Southern Italy.
“He appointed Richer, from Germany, as abbot of Monte Cassino, the abbot Theobald being imprisoned by Pandulf. At Troia, he ordered Pandulf to restore stolen property to Monte Cassino. Pandulf sent his wife and son to ask for peace, giving 300 pounds weight of gold and a son and daughter as hostages. The emperor accepted Pandulf's offer, but the hostages escaped and Pandulf took refuge in his outlying castle of Sant'Agata dei Goti. Konrad besieged and took Capua and gave it to Guaimar with the title of Prince. He also recognised Aversa as a county of Salerno under Pandulf Drengot, the Norman adventurer. Pandulf of Capua, meanwhile fled to Constantinople. Konrad thus left the Mezzogiorno firmly in Guiamar's hands and loyal, for once, to the Holy Roman Empire.
“During Konrad's return to Germany an epidemic broke out among his troops. Konrad's daughter-in-law and stepson died. Konrad himself returned safely and held several important courts in Solothurn, Strasbourg and Goslar. His son Heinrich was invested with the kingdom of Burgundy.
“A year later in 1039 Konrad fell ill. He died in Utrecht on 4 June 1039. A biography of Konrad II in chronicle form, _Gesta Chuonradi II imperatoris,_ was written by his chaplain Wipo of Burgundy, and presented to Heinrich III in 1046, not long after Heinrich's coronation as emperor.”.5 Konrad II "the Salic" (?) Holy Roman Emperor was also known as Conrad II (?) Emperor of Germany.
; Per Genealogy.EU (Salian): “[1m.] Konrad II "The Salian", King of Germany (1024-27), King of Italy (1026-39), Emperor (1027-39), King of Burgundy (1032-1038), *ca 990, +Speyer 4.6.1039; m.1016 Gisele (*13.11.989 +15.2.1043), dau.of Hermann II of Swabia”.2
; Per Med Lands:
"KONRAD of Franconia, son of HEINRICH Graf [im Wormsgau] & his wife Adelheid [Matfriede] ([990]-Utrecht 4 Jun 1039, bur Speyer cathedral). "Heinricus…Romanorum imperator augustus" renewed the privileges of Kloster Fulda by undated charter, placed in the compilation with other charters dated 1020, witnessed by "Godifridi ducis, Berinhardi ducis, Thiederici ducis, Welphonis comitis, Cunonis comitis, Kunrati comitis, Ottonis comitis, Adilbrahtis comitis, Bobonis comitis, Friderici comitis, Bezilini comitis, Ezonis comitis palatini"[344], the order of witnesses presumably giving some idea of the relative importance of these named nobles at the court of Emperor Heinrich II at the time. Herimannus names "Counradus senior, filius Heinrici et Adalheidæ" when recording his candidacy to succeed as king of Germany in 1024[345]. Thietmar names "Konrad who had illegally married his own cousin, the widow of Duke Ernst" when recording that he was wounded when Gerhard Graf von Metz (his maternal uncle) met Godefroi II Duke of Lower Lotharingia for "a judicial duel" 27 Aug 1017[346]. Wipo, in his description of the election of Konrad II King of Germany in 1024, calls him "Cuono of Worms Duke of the Franks" and "Cuono the Younger"[347]. He was elected as KONRAD II King of Germany at Chamba, Rheingau 4 Sep 1024, crowned at Mainz 8 Sep 1024. Crowned King of Italy at Milan in Mar 1026. Crowned Emperor KONRAD I at Rome 26 Mar 1027. Rudolf III King of Burgundy in 1032 bequeathed his kingdom to Emperor Konrad, who was crowned king of Burgundy at Payerne 2 Feb 1033[348]. Konrad's succession in Burgundy was challenged by his wife's first cousin Eudes II Comte de Blois, with support from Géraud Comte de Genève, but he consolidated his position by 1037 when he proclaimed a law which established the basis for the inheritance of titles and offices in the kingdom[349]. Founded Kloster Limburg 1024-1032. The necrology of Prüm records the death "II Non Iun" of "Cuonradus imperator"[350]. The Annales Spirenses record his burial at Speyer[351].
"m ([31 May 1015/Jan 1017]) as her third husband, GISELA of Swabia, widow firstly of BRUNO Graf [von Braunschweig], secondly of ERNST Duke of Swabia [Babenberg], daughter of HERMANN II Duke of Swabia & his wife Gerberga of Upper Burgundy (11 Nov 990-Goslar 15 Feb 1043, bur Speyer cathedral). The Annalista Saxo names her three husbands, although the order of her first and second marriages is interchanged which appears impossible chronologically[352]. She was crowned Queen of Germany at Köln 21 Sep 1024. Crowned empress, with her husband, at Rome 26 Mar 1027. The Annalista Saxo records the death of "Gisla imperatrix mater Heinrici regis" on "XVI Kal Martii" and her burial at Speyer[353]. The necrology of St Gall records the death "XV Kal Feb" of "Gisila imperatrix"[354]. Herimannus records her death at Goslar[355]. The Annales Spirenses record the burial at Speyer of "Heinricus senior [=Heinricus IV] et aviam suam"[356], the latter assumed to be his paternal grandmother Gisela rather than his maternal grandmother."
Med Lands cites:
[344] D H II 427, p. 542.
[345] Herimanni Augiensis Chronicon 1024, MHG SS V, p. 120.
[346] Thietmar 7.62, p. 352.
[347] Wipo, pp. 194 and 195.
[348] Poull (1994), p. 30.
[349] Marie José (1956) La Maison de Savoie, Les Origines, Le Comte Vert, Le Comte Rouge (Paris, Albin Michel), p. 32.
[350] Annales Necrologici Prumienses, MGH SS XIII, p. 219.
[351] Annales Spirenses, MGH SS XVII, p. 83.
[352] Annalista Saxo 1026.
[353] Annalista Saxo 1044.
[354] Libri Anniversariorum et Necrologium Monasterii Sancti Galli, Konstanz Necrologies, p. 462.
[355] Herimanni Augiensis Chronicon 1043, MHG SS V, p. 124.
[356] Annales Spirenses, MGH SS XVII, p. 83.6
He was King of Germany between 1024 and 1027.2 [345] Herimanni Augiensis Chronicon 1024, MHG SS V, p. 120.
[346] Thietmar 7.62, p. 352.
[347] Wipo, pp. 194 and 195.
[348] Poull (1994), p. 30.
[349] Marie José (1956) La Maison de Savoie, Les Origines, Le Comte Vert, Le Comte Rouge (Paris, Albin Michel), p. 32.
[350] Annales Necrologici Prumienses, MGH SS XIII, p. 219.
[351] Annales Spirenses, MGH SS XVII, p. 83.
[352] Annalista Saxo 1026.
[353] Annalista Saxo 1044.
[354] Libri Anniversariorum et Necrologium Monasterii Sancti Galli, Konstanz Necrologies, p. 462.
[355] Herimanni Augiensis Chronicon 1043, MHG SS V, p. 124.
[356] Annales Spirenses, MGH SS XVII, p. 83.6
; Per Enc. of World History:
“Conrad II (the Salian). He continued the general policy of Henry: personally interested only in the churches of Limburg and Speyer, he was firm in his dealings with the Church in general and relied on the lesser nobles to balance the clergy and magnates. The ministeriales, laymen of servile origin, were used to replace the clergy in many administrative posts; regalian rights were retained and exploited. Dukedoms were not regranted as they fell vacant, but were assigned to Conrad's son Henry, who, on his accession to the crown, held all but the duchies of Lorraine and Saxony. By encouraging the making of fiefs heritable, Conrad weakened the dukes and got the support of the lesser nobles but ensured the ultimate feudalization of Germany. Conrad's brilliant imperial coronation (1027), in Rome, was witnessed by two kings, Canute the Great and Rudolf III of Burgundy. Burgundy, willed to Conrad by Rudolf III and guardian of one road to Italy, was reincorporated (1033) in the empire on the death of Rudolf. Failure of an expedition (1030) against Stephen of Hungary; successful disciplinary expedition (1031) against the Poles; recovery of Lusatia; payment of homage by the Poles.”.19 He was King of Germand between 8 September 1024 and 4 June 1039.14 He was King of Italy between 1026 and 1039.2 He was King of Italy between 31 March 1026 and 6 April 1039.14 He was Holy Roman Emperor between 26 March 1027 and 4 June 1039.20,2,3,14 He was King of Burgundy between 6 September 1032 and 4 June 1039.2,14
Family | Gisela von Schwaben Queen of Germany, Holy Roman empress, Queen of Burgundy b. 11 Nov 990, d. 14 Feb 1043 |
Children |
Citations
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- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Salian page (Salian Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/german/salian.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Konrad II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I0027246&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANCONIA.htm#HeinrichWormsdied989. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Konrad II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027246&tree=LEO
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Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 157-21, p. 128. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Count Bruno of Brunswick: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106626&tree=LEO
- [S1769] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 12 Aug 2005: "Re: Count Odo/Cunegonde"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/EG8fUGArHIU/m/Kjp8At_SVwoJ) to e-mail address, 12 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 12 Aug 2005."
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gisela von Schwaben: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027247&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Wetterau family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/german/wetterau.html
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 45-21, p. 46.
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 27 June 2020), memorial page for Konrad II (unknown–4 Jun 1039), Find a Grave Memorial no. 27501042, citing Cathedral of Speyer, Speyer, Stadtkreis Speyer, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany; Maintained by Find A Grave, at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/27501042. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conrad_II,_Holy_Roman_Emperor. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SWABIA.htm#Giseladied1043
- [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Conrad II le Salique: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conrad_II_le_Salique. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
- [S4759] Wikipedia - Die freie Enzyklopädie, online https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hauptseite, Konrad II. (HRR): https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_II._(HRR). Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (DE).
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Capet 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet4.html
- [S1224] General Editor Peter N. Stearns, The Encyclopedia of World History, Sixth Edition (Boston: Houghton Mifflin Company, 2001), p. 205. Hereinafter cited as The Encyclopedia of World History, 6th Ed.
- [S1224] General Editor Peter N. Stearns, The Encyclopedia of World History, 6th Ed., p. 178.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Heinrich III: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027241&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/GERMANY,%20Kings.htm#HeinrichIIIGermanydied1056B.
Foucaud/Fulqualdus (?)1,2
M, #6630, d. after 6 April 883
Father | Raimond I (?) Comte et Marquis de Toulouse, Comte de Rouergue et Comte de Quercy1,2 d. bt 863 - 865 |
Mother | Berta/Bertheis (?)1,2 b. c 797 |
Last Edited | 23 Mar 2020 |
Foucaud/Fulqualdus (?) died after 6 April 883.2
Foucaud/Fulqualdus (?) lived at an unknown place ; Per Med Lands:
"FOUCAUD [Fulqualdus] (-after [6 Apr 883]). His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated 3 Nov 862 under which "Raymundus…comes et marchio et uxor mea Berteyz" founded the abbey of Vabres, naming "Bernardum filium nostrum…Fulgualdus filius noster…Odo filius noster" (all three of whom also subscribed the document)[218]. "Bertheis" donated property for the souls of "genitoris mei Remigii hac genetricis meæ Arsinda" and for "iugale meo Raimundo et filio meo Bernardo qui fuerunt quondam seu et filio meo Odone et Benedicto" by charter dated 6 Apr 883, subscribed by "Fulquoaldus"[219]."
Med Lands cites:
Foucaud/Fulqualdus (?) lived at an unknown place ; Per Med Lands:
"FOUCAUD [Fulqualdus] (-after [6 Apr 883]). His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated 3 Nov 862 under which "Raymundus…comes et marchio et uxor mea Berteyz" founded the abbey of Vabres, naming "Bernardum filium nostrum…Fulgualdus filius noster…Odo filius noster" (all three of whom also subscribed the document)[218]. "Bertheis" donated property for the souls of "genitoris mei Remigii hac genetricis meæ Arsinda" and for "iugale meo Raimundo et filio meo Bernardo qui fuerunt quondam seu et filio meo Odone et Benedicto" by charter dated 6 Apr 883, subscribed by "Fulquoaldus"[219]."
Med Lands cites:
[218] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 2nd Edn. Tome II, Preuves, LXXXVII, p. 652, and 3rd Edn., Preuves, 160, p. 329.
[219] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 3rd Edn. Tome II, Preuves, 203, col. 405, and Vabres 40, p. 128, quoted in Settipani (2004), p. 3.2
[219] Histoire Générale de Languedoc 3rd Edn. Tome II, Preuves, 203, col. 405, and Vabres 40, p. 128, quoted in Settipani (2004), p. 3.2
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Toulouse 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/toulouse/toul1.html
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/TOULOUSE.htm#RaymondIdied865. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.