Herbert/Heribert (?) comte de Toulouse1

M, #67861, d. after 843
FatherSaint Guillaume (?) comte et duc de Toulouse, duc d'Aquitaine, Marquis de Septimanie2,3 b. bt 755 - 760, d. bt 28 May 812 - 813
MotherKunigunde (?)3
ReferenceGAV33
Last Edited4 Sep 2020
     Herbert/Heribert (?) comte de Toulouse died after 843.1
     GAV-33.

Family

Children

Citations

  1. [S1868] J Bunot, "Bunot email 26 Jan 2005: "Toulouse according to Settipani"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 26 Jan 2005, Bunot cites Christian Settipani, La Noblesse du Midi Carolingien. Hereinafter cited as "Bunot email 26 Jan 2005."
  2. [S1868] J Bunot, "Bunot email 26 Jan 2005," e-mail to e-mail address, 26 Jan 2005, Bunot cites Christian Settipani, La Noblesse du Midi Carolingien: https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/Pl5fmy6-V98/m/GghpuV4PQLwJ.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#Guillaumedied812815B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Héribert (fils de Guillaume de Gellone): https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A9ribert_(fils_de_Guillaume_de_Gellone). Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).

Arsinde (?)1

F, #67862
ReferenceGAV32
Last Edited30 Apr 2006
     Arsinde (?) married Rémii/Remy (?)1
     GAV-32.

Family

Rémii/Remy (?)
Child

Citations

  1. [S1868] J Bunot, "Bunot email 26 Jan 2005: "Toulouse according to Settipani"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 26 Jan 2005, Bunot cites Christian Settipani, La Noblesse du Midi Carolingien. Hereinafter cited as "Bunot email 26 Jan 2005."

Garsinde (?) de Rouergue1

F, #67863
FatherArmengol (?) comte de Rouergue et de Quercy, marquis de Gothie1 b. c 882, d. 937
MotherAdelaide (?)1 b. c 882
Last Edited21 Apr 2006

Citations

  1. [S1868] J Bunot, "Bunot email 26 Jan 2005: "Toulouse according to Settipani"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 26 Jan 2005, Bunot cites Christian Settipani, La Noblesse du Midi Carolingien. Hereinafter cited as "Bunot email 26 Jan 2005."

Sir Christopher Southworth1,2

M, #67864, b. 1443, d. 1487
FatherSir Richard Southworth3,2
MotherElizabeth Molyneux2,4
Last Edited3 Sep 2017
     Sir Christopher Southworth married Isabel Dutton, daughter of Sir Thomas Dutton of Dutton and Anne Tuchet (de Audley).1,2,5 Sir Christopher Southworth was born in 1443.2
Sir Christopher Southworth died in 1487.2
     ; van de Pas cites: 1. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America bef. 1700, 7th edition, 1992, Weis, Frederick Lewis, Reference: 13
2. Living Descendants of Blood royal in America, Angerville, Count d', Reference: 461.2

Family

Isabel Dutton
Child

Citations

  1. [S1869] Starbuck95, "Starbuck email 30 Jan 2005: "Royal lines behind Anne Culcheth, wife of Robert Fenwick"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 30 Jan 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Starbuck email 30 Jan 2005."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Christopher Southworth: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00284759&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Richard Southworth: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00483180&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Molyneux: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00483181&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabel Dutton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00284760&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir John de Southworth: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00284761&tree=LEO

Sir William Wallace of Craigie1

M, #67865, d. after 14 October 1488
FatherSir John Wallace of Craigie1 d. a 1449
MotherElizabeth Douglas1 d. 1637
Last Edited6 Jul 2006
     Sir William Wallace of Craigie married Margaret/Marjorie Dunbar, daughter of Sir David Dunbar of Cockburn, after 1453.1,2
Sir William Wallace of Craigie died after 14 October 1488; Ravilious cites:
13. Charles Rogers, "The Book of Wallace," Edinburgh: Printed for the Grampian Club, 1889.pdf image files provided by Genealogy.com www.genealogy.com.1
     ; Ravilious cites: cf. CP III:510[12] [Crawford, Earls of]
12. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," 1910 - [microprint, 1982 (Alan Sutton) ], The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.1

Family

Margaret/Marjorie Dunbar d. c 1499

Citations

  1. [S1874] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 19 March 2006: "' Dame Crystyane of Douglas' : a Dunbar descent ?"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 19 March 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 19 March 2006."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret (Marjorie) Dunbar: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00116909&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Sir Reynold de la Mare Knt., of Herefordshire1

M, #67866
Last Edited22 Apr 2006
     ; per Clagett: "According to the new ODNB, Peter de la Mare was "probably the son of Sir Reynold de la Mare, a Herefordshire knight," and brother of Malcolm de la Mare, also a member of Parliament. No children are mentioned, and it is stated that "he may have been unmarried."1

Family

Children

Citations

  1. [S1875] Brice Clagett, "Clagett email 9 Feb 2005: "Peter de la Mare"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 Feb 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Clagett email 9 Feb 2005."
  2. [S1876] Peter Stewart, "Kirkemo email 9 Feb 2005: "RE: Peter de la Mare"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 Feb 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Kirkemo email 9 Feb 2005."

Marianna Guiccialdini1

F, #67868
Last Edited22 Apr 2006
     Marianna Guiccialdini married Francesco Tornabuoni, son of Simone di Tieri.1

Family

Francesco Tornabuoni b. c 1380, d. 1437
Child

Citations

  1. [S1877] Hugh Tornabene, "Tornabene email 9 Feb 2005: "Marianna Guiccialdini not Selvagia degli Alessandri"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 Feb 2005, Tornabene cites: Eleonora Plebani, I Tornabuoni, Una familiglia fiorentina alla fine del Medioevo. Hereinafter cited as "Tornabene email 9 Feb 2005."

Simone di Tieri1

M, #67869, d. 1393
Last Edited22 Apr 2006
     Simone di Tieri died in 1393.1

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1877] Hugh Tornabene, "Tornabene email 9 Feb 2005: "Marianna Guiccialdini not Selvagia degli Alessandri"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 9 Feb 2005, Tornabene cites: Eleonora Plebani, I Tornabuoni, Una familiglia fiorentina alla fine del Medioevo. Hereinafter cited as "Tornabene email 9 Feb 2005."

Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe1

M, #67870, b. 1468, d. 28 January 1545
FatherSir William Gascoigne Knt., of Gawthorpe, Yorks1,2 b. c 1450, d. 12 Mar 1487
MotherLady Margaret de Percy1,2,3
Last Edited15 Nov 2008
     Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe married Alice Frognal.4 Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe was born in 1468.1
Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe died on 28 January 1545.1
     ; van de Pas cites: 1. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: Q 118313
2. Cahiers de Saint Louis , Dupont, Jacques and Saillot, Jacques, Reference: 922.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sit William Gascoigne, of Gawthorpe, http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00216622&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Gascoigne 14: p. 349. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lady Margaret Percy, http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046491&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alice Frognal, http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00216623&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir William Gascoigne, of Gawthorpe: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00216625&tree=LEO

Alice Frognal1

F, #67871
Last Edited15 Nov 2008
     Alice Frognal married Sir William Gascoigne of Gawthorpe, son of Sir William Gascoigne Knt., of Gawthorpe, Yorks and Lady Margaret de Percy.1
     ; van de Pas cites: The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: Q 118313.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alice Frognal, http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00216623&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir William Gascoigne, of Gawthorpe: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00216625&tree=LEO

Sir Lawrence fitz Richard de Cornwall1

M, #67872, d. before 1285
FatherRichard (?) 1st Earl of Cornwall, Count of Poitou1 b. 5 Jan 1209, d. 2 Apr 1272
Last Edited23 Apr 2006
     Sir Lawrence fitz Richard de Cornwall died before 1285.1
     ; per mjcar email: I am deeply indebted to Annette Hudleston Harwood for sharing her collection of primary to Lawrence de Cornwall, ancestral to the Hudleston family of Millom, Cumberland.

Annette has confirmed that the late C. Roy Hudleston has posited that Lawrence was an illegitimate son of Richard, Earl of Cornwall and King of the Romans (1209-1272).

The evidence she has collected includes:

- Lawrence, son of Richard of Cornwall, knight, confirmed grant to St. Agatha's Abbey (Easby) of land in Barton, 1271 (VCH Yorks, N Riding, Vol 1, p 150 sub Barton). Richard, Earl of Cornwall had previously been granted land including Barton by Henry III; Lawrence FitzRichard's lands at Barton subsequently passed to the Hudlestons.

- The Records of Kendal, Vols 1 and 2 show that Sir Lawrence FitzRichard was a knight of William de Lancaster (died 1246), being present at the latter's death-bed according to his IPM. He appears as a witness to Lancaster charters by 1246. Interestingly, one document refers to him thus:

"William de Arundel (sic) gave to Laurence son of Richard, his kinsman (cognatus )... the service of Ingram de Santon... to hold by doing the 20th part of a knight's fee to the grantor or his heirs" [Vol 2, p 419]

[NB This is the quote Annette gave me; it is unclear whether William de Lancaster is intended - MAR]

Lawrence was granted lands at Ulverston by William de Lancaster, in which he was succeeded by his son, Robert (both Lawrence and Robert were also referred to as de Kirkby, as they held lands at Kirkby Ireleth, Lancs).

His connection with William de Lancaster is underlined by his apparent assumption of arms. Whereas de Lancaster bore: argent, two bars gules and on a canton gules a leopard or.

According to Hudleston & Boumphrey, Lawrence bore: argent, two bars gules and on a canton gules a cross moline or [Cumberland Families & Heraldry, p 192 sub Kirkby].

Chronologically, it seems possible that Richard of Cornwall, born January 1209, could have fathered an illegitimate son old enough to have served in a noble household by 1246, by which time he could have been approaching 20 years of age.

Lawrence was living in 1274 but dead by 1285.

Thanks again to Annette for kindly sharing her considerable research in this field.

MAR.1 He was living in 1274.1

Citations

  1. [S1884] Michael Andrews-Reading, "Andrews-Reading email 13 Feb 2006: "FitzWarine puzzle"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 13 Feb 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Andrews-Reading email 13 Feb 2006."

Muza ibn Muza ibn Qasi (?)1

M, #67873, d. 788
FatherMusa ibn Fortún ibn Quasi (?)1 b. c 745, d. bt 789 - 802
MotherUnknown (?)1
Last Edited11 Aug 2020
     Muza ibn Muza ibn Qasi (?) died in 788.1
     ; per Toddd Farmerie email:
[quote]
Leo van de Pas wrote:
> Inigo Iniguez Arista who lived from about 790 to 852 has been recorded as King of Pamplona from 822 until he died. I found a description about him that he was "a Basque leader, which in that time implied he was a Muslim". Can anyone confirm this, or add any other details about him?

No implication concerning religion can be made based solely on him being a Basque, and if any were to be reached, this would be the wrong one. This was on the boundary of muslim control, and it was a patchwork of religious preferences. Aznar Galindez, another Basque leader, was almost certainly christian (closely allied with Louis the Pious), as were the Basque leaders to the north (better known as Gascons). The local Romano-Basque Banu Qasi were muslim, but they seem to have been the exception. Further, unlike the Banu Qasi, which used a mizture of muslim and christian names, the names found in this family - Inigo, Fortun, Garcia, Sancho, Velasco, Oneca, Jimena, Sancha, Toda, Urraca, Aznar (even Auria) are all Basque or Latin in origin. What we know is that Inigo Arista was maternal half-brother of Muza ibn Muza ibn Qasi, but we do not know the religion of their common mother, nor even the order of marriage (although based on the death of Muza ibn Fortun in 788, it seems likely that Inigo was the second husband, but this is not without problems either (his grandson was active on an embassy in the 840s. It is reported in muslim sources that Inigo suffered from paralysis (it is unclear if it was traumatic or stroke-related) and his son Garcia was militarily active from the early 840s, perhaps in lieu of his father. A brother (of Inigo and Muza) Fortun Iniguez was a well respected leader, but was killed about this time. Inigo's death is reported in (IIRC) in the muslim year that spanned 851/2.
taf
[end quote].1

Citations

  1. [S1885] Todd A. Farmerie, "Farmerie email 24 March 2005: "Re: Muslim ancestors of Gateway Ancestors?"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 24 March 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Farmerie email 24 March 2005."

Gutierre Mendes (?)1

M, #67874
ReferenceGAV33
Last Edited30 Apr 2006
     Gutierre Mendes (?) married Elvira (?)
     GAV-33.

; per Todd Farmerie (and Leo van de Pas) email: [quote] Leo van de Pas wrote:
> I have fragments of two Spanish families but I really think it is one and the same. However, different spelling also make me ask : can anyone tell what is correct?
>
> Guturre Mendes, Count of Coimbra married Elvira Agatoimes
> their son
> Hermengilde Guterres, Count of Coimbra married Hermesinda Gatonez, her parents not mentioned
> their daughter
> Elvira Menedez died circa October 921, having married 890/900 Ordono II, King of Asturias
>
> second line
> Gutier married Elvira
> their son Hermenegildo Gutierrez married Hermesinda Gatonez, daughter of Gaton, Count of Viero and Egilona
> their daughter
> Illdoncia died in 942 and was married to Count Gutierre Osorez.

These are the same - Elvira and Ildoncia were sisters (and Gutierre Osorez was their first cousin, son of Osorio Gutierrez, brother of Hermengildo. I don't think that there is any evidence that Gutierre, their father, was Count of Coimbra, and his patronymic is somewhat speculative. As to Elvira "Agatoimes", this patronymic should also be rejected, it being a Portuguese rendering of Gatonez - someone has mistakenly given the mother-in-law the patronymic of the daughter-in-law. I am not sure, off hand, if Egilona is well supported or not.
taf [end quote].1

Family

Elvira (?)
Children

Citations

  1. [S1890] Todd A. Farmerie, "Farmerie email 22 Apr 2005: "Re: Spanish Question"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 22 Apr 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Farmerie email 22 Apr 2005."

Elvira (?)1

F, #67875
ReferenceGAV33
Last Edited30 Apr 2006
     Elvira (?) married Gutierre Mendes (?)
     GAV-33.

Family

Gutierre Mendes (?)
Children

Citations

  1. [S1890] Todd A. Farmerie, "Farmerie email 22 Apr 2005: "Re: Spanish Question"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 22 Apr 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Farmerie email 22 Apr 2005."

Mathieu (?)1

M, #67877
Last Edited21 Mar 2020

Family

Ida (?) of Flanders, Cts de Boulogne-sur-Mer b. bt 1160 - 1161, d. 21 Jan 1216

Citations

  1. [S1896] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 22 June 2005: "Extended Pedigree of Counts of Boulogne-sur-Mer"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/44eb7V2WEXc/m/5ixO37yx3noJ) to e-mail address, 22 June 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 22 June 2005."
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boulogne.pdf, p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf, p. 10.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ida of Flanders: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00496155&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLANDERS,%20HAINAUT.htm#Idadied1216A. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Godefroi (?) de Boulogne, Bâtard de Boulogne1,2

M, #67878, d. 28 June 1113
FatherEustache III (?) Comte de Boulogne et de Lens1,3,4 b. c 1085, d. a 1125
Last Edited28 Jul 2020
     Godefroi (?) de Boulogne, Bâtard de Boulogne died on 28 June 1113 at battle of Sinnabrahn; Al Sinnabrahn contre l’atabeg Tughtikin de Damas et Mawdud de Mosoul.1,2
     ; per Richardson: "...illegitimate, styled "nephew" [nepos] of King Baldwin I of Jerusalem."1

Citations

  1. [S1896] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 22 June 2005: "Extended Pedigree of Counts of Boulogne-sur-Mer"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/44eb7V2WEXc/m/5ixO37yx3noJ) to e-mail address, 22 June 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 22 June 2005."
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boulogne.pdf, p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#EustacheIIIdied1125. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison comtale de Boulogne, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boulogne.pdf

Robert de Caieu1

M, #67879, d. after 1197
Last Edited4 Sep 2020
     Robert de Caieu married Sybille (?) Dame de Tingry, daughter of Faramus/Pharamuse (?) Seigneur de Boulogne-Tingry, of Carshalton, Surrey and Maud/Mathilde (?), after 1189; her 2nd husband.2
Robert de Caieu died after 1197.1
     ; Per Ravilious: “E2. Sibyl of Boulogne (or Tingry), +1212/14, m. (1) Enguerrand de Fiennes, seigneur of Fiennes (Pas de Calais) (+killed at Acre 1189); m. (2) Robert de Caieu (or Cayeu) (+after 1197)”.2 Robert de Caieu was also known as Robert de Cayeu.1

Family

Sybille (?) Dame de Tingry d. a 1217

Citations

  1. [S1896] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 22 June 2005: "Extended Pedigree of Counts of Boulogne-sur-Mer"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/44eb7V2WEXc/m/5ixO37yx3noJ) to e-mail address, 22 June 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 22 June 2005."
  2. [S1896] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 22 June 2005," e-mail to e-mail address, 22 June 2005, https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/44eb7V2WEXc/m/5ixO37yx3noJ

Simon (?) de Boulogne1,2

M, #67880, d. after 1130
FatherWilliam (?) de Boulogne, of Carshalton, Surrey1,2,3 b. b 1106, d. b 1130
Last Edited7 Jun 2020
     Simon (?) de Boulogne died after 1130.1

Citations

  1. [S1896] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 22 June 2005: "Extended Pedigree of Counts of Boulogne-sur-Mer"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/44eb7V2WEXc/m/5ixO37yx3noJ) to e-mail address, 22 June 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 22 June 2005."
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boulogne.pdf, p. 4. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#Geoffreydiedafter1100. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Gilbert de Gant Earl of Lincoln1

M, #67881, b. circa 1120, d. 1156
FatherWalter de Gaunt Baron of Folkingham, co. Lincoln1,2 b. c 1077, d. 1139
MotherMaud (Matilda) (?) de Bretagne, de Penthievre1,2 b. c 1077, d. 1139
Last Edited1 Aug 2007
     Gilbert de Gant Earl of Lincoln married Rohese de Clare, daughter of Richard fitz Gilbert de Clare Lord of Clare and Tonbridge and Alice/Adeliza (?) of Chester; her 1st husband.3,1,2 Gilbert de Gant Earl of Lincoln was born circa 1120 at Bridlington, England.1,2
Gilbert de Gant Earl of Lincoln died in 1156; d.s.p.m.1,2
     ; Leo van de Pas cites:
1. The Ancestry of Elizabeth of York, 1999 , Lewis, Marlyn, Reference: 3266
2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: VII 672.1

Family

Rohese de Clare d. a 1156
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gilbert de Gant: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00333200&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2077] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 3 June 2006: "Re: Brittany was Re: William de Mohun's (d Oct 1193) ancestors," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 June 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 3 June 2006."
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Rohese de Clare: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00333201&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alice de Gant: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00333199&tree=LEO

Joanna (?) de Meschines1

F, #67882
FatherRanulph de Meschines (?) 2nd Earl of Chester1 b. b 1100, d. 16 Dec 1153
MotherMaud (?) of Gloucester1 d. 29 Jul 1189
Last Edited4 Jan 2017
     Joanna (?) de Meschines married Adam II de Brus Lord of Skelton, Cleveland, son of Adam II de Brus and Juetta de Arches.1
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H., Reference: 140.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joanna de Meschines: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027713&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Rohese de Clare1

F, #67883, d. after 1156
FatherRichard fitz Gilbert de Clare Lord of Clare and Tonbridge1 b. b 1100, d. 15 Apr 1136
MotherAlice/Adeliza (?) of Chester1
Last Edited9 Mar 2020
     Rohese de Clare married Gilbert de Gant Earl of Lincoln, son of Walter de Gaunt Baron of Folkingham, co. Lincoln and Maud (Matilda) (?) de Bretagne, de Penthievre; her 1st husband.1,2,3 Rohese de Clare married Robert 'the Sewer' fitz Robert (?); her second husband.4
Rohese de Clare died after 1156.5
     ; per Ravilious: Rohese de Clare*
Death: aft 1156[1]

Genealogics #I00333201[3]

she m. 1stly Gilbert de Gant, Earl of Lincoln;
2ndly Robert (the sewer of William de Percy)[4]


cf. EYC II:195, 433, 434-6
EYC IX:8
EYC XI:92, 101-2[5]

Spouse: Gilbert de Gant
Birth: ca 1120[1]
Death: 1156, d.s.p.m.[1]
Father: Walter de Gant (-1139)
Mother: Maud of Brittany

Children: Alice (-1185), m. Simon III de St. Liz

Ravilious cites: 1. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," 1910 - [microprint, 1982 (Alan Sutton) ], The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.
2. "PIPE ROLL OF 31 HENRY I (1130)," http://www.constitution.org/sech/sech_025.txt includes citations from the Pipe Roll 31 Hen I (1129/30), also from other 'miscellaneous' rolls: e.g. 5 Steph (1139), re: Hugh d'Auberville.
3. "Genealogics," website by Leo van de Pas, http://www.genealogics.com
4. William Farrer, Hon.D.Litt., Editor, "Early Yorkshire Charters," Ballantyne, Hanson & Co., Edinburgh, 1915-1916, Vol. II (1915) Vol. III (1916), Vol. XII [the family of Constable of Flamborough], courtesy Rosie Bevan, Vol. V [Manfield fee, pp. 53-58 ], courtesy Rosie Bevan, , SGM, 26 Feb 2002.
5. Paul C. Reed, FASG, "Gilbert son of Roger fitz Reinfred," 23 Jun 1999, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites EYC 2:195, 433, 434-6, 9:8, 11:92, 101-2 and other sources.
6. William Brown, ed., "Yorkshire Inquisitions of the Reigns of Henry III and Edward I, Vol. I," The Yorkshire Archaeological and Topographical Association, Record Series, printed for the Society, 1892, Records Series, Vol. XII, for the year 1891.
7. I. J. Sanders, "English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and Descent, 1086-1327," Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.
8. Frederick L. Weis, Th. D., "The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215," Baltimore: Gen Pub Co., 5th ed., 1997 (W. L. Sheppard Jr & David Faris).
9. Douglas Richardson, "Mortimer account," November 19, 2002, paper copy: library of John Ravilious, cites sources for history of Mortimer family, including Wigmore chronicle (in Dugdale, Monasticon Anglicanum).
10. W. H. Bliss, ed., "Calendar of Entries in the Papal Registers Relating to Great Britain and Ireland," Papal Letters, Vol. II (A.D. 1305 - 1342), London: for the Public Record Office, 1895, (reprinted 1971, Kraus-Thomson, Liechtenstein).
11. G. W. S. Barrow, "Robert Bruce and the Community of the Realm of Scotland," Edinburgh University Press, 1976 (2nd ed.)
12. William Brown, B.A., ed., "Yorkshire Inquisitions," The Yorkshire Archaeological Society, Record Series), various dates:, Vol. I (Record series vol. XII) - 1892, Vol. II(Record series vol. XXIII) - 1898, Vol. III (Record series vol. XXXI) - 1902, Vol. IV (Record series vol. XXXVII) - 1906.
13. "International Genealogical Index," IGI: published through LDS website,http://www.familysearch.org
14. A. Gooder, Ph.D., "The Parliamentary Representation of the Countyof York, 1258-1832, Vol. I," The Yorkshire Archaeological Society,Record Series, Vol. XCI (1935), Wakefield: Printed for the Society, 1935.
15. M. T. Martin, ed., "The Percy Chartulary," Durham: Andrews & Co., Published for the Society, 1911 (Surtees Soc., vol. 117).5

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Ancestry of Elizabeth of York, 1999 , Lewis, Marlyn, Reference: 3267.
2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: VII 672.6

Family 2

Gilbert de Gant Earl of Lincoln b. c 1120, d. 1156
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Rohese de Clare: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00333201&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gilbert de Gant: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00333200&tree=LEO
  3. [S2077] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 3 June 2006: "Re: Brittany was Re: William de Mohun's (d Oct 1193) ancestors," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 June 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 3 June 2006."
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert FitzRobert: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00478490&tree=LEO
  5. [S2122] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 7 Jan 2007: "Descents from de Clare via de Kyme of Sotby, Lincs."," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 7 Jan 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 7 Jan 2007."
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Rohese de Clare: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00333201&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alice de Gant: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00333199&tree=LEO

Robert 'the Sewer' fitz Robert (?)1,2

M, #67884
Last Edited29 Sep 2007
     Robert 'the Sewer' fitz Robert (?) married Rohese de Clare, daughter of Richard fitz Gilbert de Clare Lord of Clare and Tonbridge and Alice/Adeliza (?) of Chester; her second husband.1
     Robert 'the Sewer' fitz Robert (?) was per Leo van de Pas "described as 'Sewer of William de Percy.1'"

; Leo van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: VII 673.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert FitzRobert: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00478490&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2122] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 7 Jan 2007: "Descents from de Clare via de Kyme of Sotby, Lincs."," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 7 Jan 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 7 Jan 2007."

Alice de Gant1

F, #67885, d. 1185
FatherGilbert de Gant Earl of Lincoln1,2 b. c 1120, d. 1156
MotherRohese de Clare1,2 d. a 1156
Last Edited1 Aug 2007
     Alice de Gant married Simon III de St. Liz Earl of Huntingdon & Northamptonshire, son of Simon II de St. Liz Earl of Huntingdon and Elizabeth (Isabel) de Beaumont.1,3,4
Alice de Gant died in 1185.1
     ; Leo van de Pas cites:
1. The Ancestry of Elizabeth of York, 1999 , Lewis, Marlyn, Reference: 1633
2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: VII 673.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alice de Gant: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00333199&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2077] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 3 June 2006: "Re: Brittany was Re: William de Mohun's (d Oct 1193) ancestors," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 June 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 3 June 2006."
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Simon III de St.Liz: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00333198&tree=LEO
  4. [S1896] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 22 June 2005: "Extended Pedigree of Counts of Boulogne-sur-Mer"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/44eb7V2WEXc/m/5ixO37yx3noJ) to e-mail address, 22 June 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 22 June 2005."

William de Busli1

M, #67886, b. circa 1090, d. circa 1164
FatherWilliam de Busli2 d. 1115
MotherHawise Espec3
ReferenceGAV25
Last Edited30 Apr 2006
     William de Busli married Rohesia de Clare, daughter of Baldwin Fitz Gilbert de Clare Lord of Bourne, Deeping and Adeline de Rollos Baroness of Bourne, co. Lincoln.1 William de Busli was born circa 1090.1
William de Busli died circa 1164.1
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H., Reference: 142.1 GAV-25.

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Busli: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00175605&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Busli: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00175612&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hawise Espec: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00175613&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Cicely Busli: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00175608&tree=LEO

Emma (?)1

F, #67887
ReferenceGAV25
Last Edited30 Apr 2006
     Emma (?) married Richard de Busli, son of Jordan de Busli, in 1141.1
     GAV-25.

; Leo van de Pas cites: The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H., Reference: 142.1

Family

Richard de Busli b. 1116, d. 1179
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Emma: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00175611&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Richard de Busli1

M, #67888, b. 1116, d. 1179
FatherJordan de Busli2 b. c 1091, d. 1162
ReferenceGAV25
Last Edited30 Apr 2006
     Richard de Busli was born in 1116.1 He married Emma (?) in 1141.3
Richard de Busli died in 1179.1
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H., Reference: 142.1 GAV-25.

Family

Emma (?)
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Richard de Busli: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00175610&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jordan de Busli: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00175609&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Emma: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00175611&tree=LEO

Jordan de Busli1

M, #67889, b. circa 1091, d. 1162
ReferenceGAV26
Last Edited30 Apr 2006
     Jordan de Busli was born circa 1091.1
Jordan de Busli died in 1162.1
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H., Reference: 142.1 GAV-26.

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jordan de Busli: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00175609&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

William de Busli1

M, #67890, d. 1115
ReferenceGAV26
Last Edited30 Apr 2006
     William de Busli married Hawise Espec, daughter of William Espec.1
William de Busli died in 1115.1
     ; Leo van de Pas cites: The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H., Reference: 142.1 GAV-26.

Family

Hawise Espec
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Busli: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00175612&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.