Anne Higginbotham1,2

F, #18543, b. 1731, d. 1751
FatherJohn Higginbotham1,3 b. 10 Jul 1695, d. 17 Apr 1742
MotherFrances Riley1,4 b. 1692, d. 1751
Last Edited26 Mar 2018
     Anne Higginbotham was born in 1731.5
Anne Higginbotham died in 1751 at Amherst Co., Virginia, USA.5
Anne Higginbotham was buried in 1751 at Higginbotham Cemetery, Amherst, Amherst Co., Virginia, USA; from Find A Grave:
     Birth:      1731
     Death:      1751
     This burial is speculative, as no headstone exists for this individual.
     Family links: Parents:
      John Joseph Higginbotham (1695 - 1742)
      Frances Riley Higginbotham (1692 - 1751)
     Siblings:
      Moses Higginbotham (1714 - 1790)*
      Joseph Higginbotham (1720 - 1805)*
      Aaron Higginbotham (1720 - 1785)*
      John Higginbotham (1726 - 1814)*
      Benjamin Aimsley Higginbotham (1729 - 1791)*
      James Higginbotham (1729 - 1813)*
      Ann Higginbotham (1731 - 1751)
     Burial: Higginbotham Cemetery, Amherst, Amherst County, Virginia, USA
     Maintained by: William Higginbotham
     Originally Created by: Beca
     Record added: Mar 30, 2008
     Find A Grave Memorial# 25639120.5

Citations

  1. [S2354] Ancestry.Com Web Site, online http://search.ancestry.com/, History of the Higginbotham name seen on the Oliver Higginbotham family tree Ancestry.com on 19 Oct 2017 at: Found: https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/5407581/person/-1457480964/media/405545c0-5871-4a6b-be00-51d2e3304c3e. Hereinafter cited as Ancestry.Com Web Site.
  2. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Ann Higginbotham: https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=25639120. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  3. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, John Joseph Higginbotham: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/13346740/john-joseph-higginbotham
  4. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Frances Riley Higginbotham: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/13346751/frances-higginbotham
  5. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Ann Higginbotham: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/25639120/ann-higginbotham

Richard de Camville1

M, #18544, b. circa 1110, d. circa 1170
FatherRichard de Camville2 b. c 1090, d. c 1140
Mother(?) de Vere3
ReferenceGAV25 EDV25
Last Edited3 Feb 2008
     Richard de Camville married Milicent Barbant.4
Richard de Camville was born circa 1110 at Creeke, Northamptonshire, England.1
Richard de Camville died circa 1170.5
     GAV-25 EDV-25.

Family

Milicent Barbant b. c 1127
Child

Adèle/Alix de Dreux Dame de Montjay1,2

F, #18545, b. between 1145 and 1146
FatherRobert I "le Grand" de Dreux Cmte de Dreux, du Perche et de Braine-sur-Vesle3,1,4,2,5 b. c 1123, d. 11 Oct 1188
MotherHawise (?) of Salisbury3,6,2,7,8,9,1 b. c 1118, d. b 13 Jan 1152
ReferenceEDV25
Last Edited21 Dec 2020
     Adèle/Alix de Dreux Dame de Montjay was born between 1145 and 1146; Genealogy EU (Capet 6 page) says b. 1144/5.3,10,1,6 She married Galeran (Waleran/Valeran) III de Breteuil seigneur de Breteuil, son of Evrard III de Breteuil Comte de Breteuil and Basilie/Beatrix/Beatrice de Coucy, after 24 June 1156
;
Her 1st husband; his 2nd wife.3,10,11,12,13,1,6 Adèle/Alix de Dreux Dame de Montjay married Guy II de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, Troissy, Montjay, Vassen et Crécy, son of Gaucher II de Châtillon Seigneur de Châtillon, Croissy et Montjay and Ada de Roucy dame de Pierrefonds, in 1166
;
Her 2nd husband; his 2nd wife; Racine et Histoire says m. 1161/62 or 1166; Genealogy.EU (Capet 6 page) says m. 1161/2.3,14,10,6,1 Adèle/Alix de Dreux Dame de Montjay married Jean I de Coucy seigneur de Thourotte, son of Gui I de Thourotte Châtelain de Coucy, Châtelain de Noyon, Vicomte de Soissons and NN de Coucy, after 1170
;
Her 3rd husband. Her 2nd husband had d. aft 1170.1,15,10,16 Adèle/Alix de Dreux Dame de Montjay married Raoul I de Nesle (?) Comte de Soissons, Chatelain de Noyon, son of Raoul (?) seigneur de Nesle, chatelain de Bruges and Gertrude (?) de Montaigu, in 1184
;
Her 4th husband; Genealogy.EU (Capet 6 page) says m. bef 1183.3,17,10,1,6
Adèle/Alix de Dreux Dame de Montjay died after 1210; Med Lands says d. Jan 1205/Mar 1210.3,10,6,1
     ; Per Racines et Histoire (Breteuil): “1) Galeran (Valeran) III de Breteuil ° entre 1116 et 1134 + 1162/63 comte de Breteuil (1148)
     ép. 1) 1153 Holdeburge + après 24/06/1156 dame d’Ailly-sur-Noye et de Tartigny (fille de ? et de Béatrix)
     ép. 2) ~1160 Alix (Adèle) de Dreux ° 1145/46 + entre 01/1205 et 03/1210 (fille de Robert 1er «Le Grand» de Dreux et d’Hawise de Salisbury (alias Havise de Rosmar(e) ; ép. 2) 1161 Gui II, seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne + 1172 ; ép. 3) 1174 Jean 1er de Thourotte, Châtelain de Noyon + 1176/77 ; ép. 4) 1183 Raoul III de Nesle (1er de Soissons), comte de Soissons + 04/01/1235)”.13
; Per Med Lands:
     "VALERAN [III] de Breteuil (-[1162]). “Miles Evrardus Britulensium dominus et filii eius Walerannus, Evrardus...avocaturam et vicecomitatum” donated property “in villa et in terra de Tilleto” to Lannoy abbey by charter dated to [1136][883]. Odon Bishop of Beauvais confirmed donations to Lannoy, including the donation of property “in villa et in terra Teoleti” made by “Everardus Britolii dominus et filii eius Walerannus, Everardus et Hugo”, by charter dated 1140[884]. “Dominus Brituliensis Ebrardus” donated “partem suam vicecomitatus...in terris et villis matris ecclesie Ambianensis” to Amiens Notre-Dame in the same way that "Manasses dominus Conteiensis" donated his part, with the consent of "filiis suis Gualeranno et Ebrardo", by charter dated to [1142][885]. Seigneur de Breteuil.
     "m firstly HOLDEBURGE Dame d'Ailly-sur-Noye et de Tartigny, daughter of --- [Seigneur d’Ailly-sur-Noye] & his wife Beatrix de Bulles (-after 24 Jun 1156). A charter dated 1153 records that “Galerannum de Britoglio” donated property at Champmartin at Rueil-sur-Bèche to Froidmont abbey, with the consent of “Hugone fratre suo...et Holdeburge uxore Galeranni, Aalsi et Mathilde filiabus eius”[886]. “Holdeburgis domina Britoglii” on her deathbed donated the tolls of Hermes-sur-le-Thérain to Variville priory, with the consent of “Beatricis matris sue...domini Waleranni Britolii predicte Holdeburgis mariti”, by charter dated 24 Jun 1156[887].
     "m secondly ([1156/60]) as her first husband, ALIX de Dreux, daughter of ROBERT [I] Seigneur de Dreux et du Perche [Capet] & his first wife Hawise de Salisbury ([1145/46]-[Jan 1205/Mar 1210], bur église collégiale de Dreux). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Alaydam" as the daughter of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum" & his first wife, naming her first husband "Gallerano de Bertuilh", her second husband "Guidone de Castellone", her third husband "Iohanne castellano Noviomensi" and her fourth husband "comite Suessionensi"[888]. She married secondly (1161) Guy [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, thirdly Jean [I] Seigneur de Thourotte Châtelain de Noyon et de Coucy, and fourthly (1182 or before) as his first wife, Raoul de Nesle Comte de Soissons."
Med Lands cites:
[883] Lannoy, Tome X, III, p. 630.
[884] Lannoy, Tome X, VII, p. 633.
[885] Amiens, I, 16, p. 23.
[886] Dion (1884) Seigneurs de Breteuil, p. 23, quoting Moreau, t. LI, fol. 41.
[887] Dion (1884) Seigneurs de Breteuil, p. 23, quoting Moreau, t. LXVIII, fol. 35, d’après les archives de Variville.
[888] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 845-6.12


; Per Racines et Histoire (Châtillon): “Gui II de Châtillon ° ~1140 + après 1170 (1172 ?) seigneur de Châtillon, Troissy, Montjay, Vassens (02) et Crécy (témoin à Meaux 1156 du don du comte Henri 1er de Champagne de 620 arpents de terre d’Erablay à l’Abbaye de Tiron ; don 1162 avec consentement de sa mère et de son frère de 7 muids de vin de rente pris sur le vinage de la Montagne de Reims aux religieux de Châtillon, pour fonder l’anniversaire de son père le 19/01 ; autres donations 1168 et 1170 aux Prieurés de Gournay et de Saint-Martin du Vieux-Crécy)
     ép. 1161/62 ou 1166 Alix (alias Adélaïde) de Dreux ° 1144/45 + 1209/10 (fille de Robert 1er, comte de Dreux + 1188 et d’Havise d’Evreux ; nièce du Roi Louis VII ; veuve de Waléran III, seigneur de Breteuil (60) + 1163 ; ép. 3. après 1168 Jean 1er de Coucy, seigneur de Thourotte, Châtelain de Noyon + 1176/77; ép. 4) avant 1184 (1183?) Raoul III (1er de Soissons) de Nesle, comte de Soissons + 04/01/1235)”.6

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Encyclopedie Genealogique des Maisons Souveraines du Monde Paris, VIII 1963,IX 1964,XII 1966., Docteur Gaston Sirjean, Reference: 242.
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 63.1
EDV-25.

; This is the same person as ”Adèle of Dreux” at Wikipedia and as ”Alix de Dreux” at Wikipédia (FR).18,19 Adèle/Alix de Dreux Dame de Montjay was also known as Adele de Dreux Dame de Montjay.3,20,4

; Per Med Lands:
     "ALIX de Dreux ([1145/46]-[Jan 1205/Mar 1210], bur église collégiale de Dreux). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Alaydam" as the daughter of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum" and his first wife, naming her first husband "Gallerano de Bertuilh", her second husband "Guidone de Castellone", her third husband "Iohanne castellano Noviomensi" and her fourth husband "comite Suessionensi"[31]. A charter dated 1170 records that “Johannes Noviomensis et Torotencis castellanus” granted exemptions from duties on wine to Saint-Amand, as well as the settlement of a later dispute with the consent of “fratres mei Guido [...defunctus]...et Ivo...Aalis uxor mea et ceteri fratres mei Rainaldus, Robertus et Petrus”[32]. "Adelais comitissa Suessionensis et domina Montis Gaii" confirmed the donation of property to Paris Hôtel-Dieu, for the soul of "domini Guidonis de Castellione viri mei", by charter dated 1182[33]. "Gaucherius de Castellione dominus Montisgaii" donated property to Saint-Maur des Fossés, for the soul of "fratris mei Guidonis", with the consent of "domina Adelaide matre mea comitissa Suessionensi et domina Adelaide sorore mea uxore domini Guillelmi de Garlanda", by charter dated 1194[34]. "Radulfus comes Suessionensis…Aalidis uxor mea" confirmed a donation to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by charter dated 1199[35]. "Radulfus (Suessionis) dominus Montis Gaii et Adelidis uxor mee" confirmed a previous donation of property to Tremblay by "filius noster Gaucherus de Castillione" by charter dated Jan 1205[36], although Gauthier was the son of Raoul's wife by her second marriage.
     "m firstly ([1156/60]) as his second wife, VALERAN [III] Seigneur de Breteuil, son of ERARD [III] "le Vaillant" Seigneur de Breteuil & his first wife Beatrix de Coucy (-1162).
     "m secondly ([1162/66]) GUY [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, son of GAUCHER [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne & his wife Ada de Roucy (-[1170], bur église collégiale de Dreux).
     "m thirdly ([1170]) JEAN [I] Seigneur de Thourotte Châtelain de Noyon et de Coucy, son of ROGER Seigneur de Thourotte & his wife Havide --- (-[1176/77]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Guidonem et Iohannem de Torota" as the children of "Alaydis [filia comitem de Brana Robertum domnum]" and her third husband, specifying that Jean was father of "Iohannis et Rodulfi Virdunensis et Roberti Ledodiensis episcoporum"[37]. In a later passage, the same source names him "Iohannes castellanus Noviomensis frater castellanorum de Coci" and adding that he was father of "Iohannem de Torota qui sororem habuit domni de Dampetra"[38].
     "m fourthly (1182 or before) as his first wife, RAOUL de Nesle Comte de Soissons, son of RAOUL Seigneur de Nesle, Châtelain de Bruges & his wife Gertrude de Montaigu (-4 Jan 1235)."
Med Lands cites:
[31] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, pp. 845-6.
[32] Saint-Amand, XXIV, p. 173.
[33] Paris Hôtel-Dieu, 24, p. 11.
[34] Duchesne (1631) Dreux, Dreux, Preuves, p. 241, quoting Extrait des archives de l’abbaye de S. Maur des Fossez.
[35] Ourscamp Notre-Dame CCLXXXIV, p. 170.
[36] Tremblay-en-France, 5.
[37] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1162, MGH SS XXIII, p. 846.
[38] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1219, MGH SS XXIII, p. 909.10


; Per Genealogy.EU: "Adele, *1144/45, living 1210; 1m: after 24.6.1156 Cte Valeran III de Breteuil; 2m: 1161/2 Guy II, sn de Chatillon; 3m: Jean I de Thorotte (+1176/77); 4m: before 1183 Raoul I de Nesle, Cte de Soissons (+1235.)3"

; Per Racines et Histoire (Dreux): “1) Alix (Adèle) de Dreux ° 1145/46 + entre 01/1205 et 03/1210 (citée chartes de donation à Notre-Dame d’Ourscamp 1199 et au Tremblay 01/1205)
     ép. 1) après 24/06/1156 (1160 ?) Valeran III, comte de Breteuil + 1162 (fils d’Erard III «Le Vaillant» de Breteuil et de Béatrix de Coucy ou de Basilie de Bulles ? ; veuf de Holdeburge, dame d’Ailly-sur-Noye (80))
     ép. 2) 1162/66 Gui II de Châtillon, seigneur de Châtillon et de Montjay + ~1170 (fils de Gaucher II de Châtillon et d’Ade de Roucy, dame de Pierrefonds)
     ép. 3) ~1170 Jean 1er de Thourotte + 1176/77 châtelain de Noyon et Coucy (fils de Jean, Châtelain de Coucy, et d’Adélaïde, ou de Roger de Thourotte et de Hadevide ?)
     ép. 4) dès 1182 Raoul III de Nesle (1er de Soissons) + 04/01/1235 comte de Soissons, Châtelain de Bruges (fils de Raoul de Nesle, Châtelain de Bruges, et de Gertrude de Montaigu ; ép. 2) ~1210 Yolande de Joinville + ~1212 ; ép. 3) ~1223 Ade d’Avesnes + ~1249)”.21

Family 1

Galeran (Waleran/Valeran) III de Breteuil seigneur de Breteuil b. bt 1116 - 1134, d. bt 1162 - 1163
Child

Family 3

Jean I de Coucy seigneur de Thourotte d. bt 1176 - 1177
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adèle de Dreux: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027533&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/pardreman.htm#AdeleAlixDreuxdied12051210
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html#P1
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Chatillon.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013794&tree=LEO
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Châtillon (-sur-Marne) & Saint-Pol, Blois, Porcien, etc., p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Chatillon.pdf
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Havise de Salisbury: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120879&tree=LEO
  8. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html
  9. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/pardreman.htm#RobertIDreuxdied1188B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  10. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/pardreman.htm#AdeleAlixDreuxdied12051210
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Valeran III de Breteuil: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164668&tree=LEO
  12. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#ValeranIIIBreteuildied1162
  13. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs puis comtes de Breteuil Vicomtes de Chartres, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Breteuil.pdf
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gui II de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027532&tree=LEO
  15. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#JeanIThourottedied1176
  16. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Thourotte (alias Thorotte), p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Thourotte.pdf
  17. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raoul de Nesle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026381&tree=LEO
  18. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad%C3%A8le_of_Dreux. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  19. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Alix de Dreux: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alix_de_Dreux. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  20. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adèle de Dreux: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027533&tree=LEO
  21. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Dreux, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Dreux.pdf
  22. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Amicie de Breteuil: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00547246&tree=LEO
  23. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adèle de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139790&tree=LEO
  24. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gaucher III de Châtillon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027534&tree=LEO
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  27. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Beaumont 1 page (The family of Beaumont-sur-Oise): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/beaumont/beaumont1.html
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  29. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eleonore de Soissons: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00330715&tree=LEO
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  32. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gertrude de Soissons: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026380&tree=LEO
  33. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Morency 1 page - Montmorency family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/morency/morency1.html

Milicent Barbant1

F, #18546, b. circa 1127
ReferenceGAV25 EDV25
Last Edited3 Feb 2008
     Milicent Barbant married Richard de Camville, son of Richard de Camville and (?) de Vere.1
Milicent Barbant was born circa 1127.1
     GAV-25 EDV-25.

Family

Richard de Camville b. c 1110, d. c 1170
Child

John fitz Herbert1

M, #18547
FatherWilliam fitz Herbert1 d. c 1166
ReferenceGKJ22
Last Edited22 Nov 2002
     John fitz Herbert married Agnes de Stretton, daughter of Osbert de Stretton of Etwall, Derbyshire.1

     GKJ-22.

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stafford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Agnes de Stretton1

F, #18548
FatherOsbert de Stretton of Etwall, Derbyshire1
ReferenceGKJ22
Last Edited22 Nov 2002
     Agnes de Stretton married John fitz Herbert, son of William fitz Herbert.1

     GKJ-22.

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stafford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Gerard de Camville1

M, #18551, b. circa 1060
ReferenceGAV27 EDV27
Last Edited17 Feb 2003
     Gerard de Camville was born circa 1060 at Librun Castle, Northamptonshire, England.1
     GAV-27 EDV-27.

Family

Child

Thomas de Astley Esq., of Eldenhall, Shropshire1

M, #18552, b. circa 1385, d. before 13 January 1432
FatherSir Thomas de Astley Knt., of Hillmorton, Warwickshire1 d. 1399
MotherElizabeth de Harcourt1,2,3 b. bt 1347 - 1349
Last Edited23 May 2008
     Thomas de Astley Esq., of Eldenhall, Shropshire was born circa 1385.3 He married Joan Gresley, daughter of Sir Thomas Gresley Knt., of Drakelow, Derbyshire and Margaret Walsh, before 18 January 1423.3

Thomas de Astley Esq., of Eldenhall, Shropshire died before 13 January 1432.3
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938, Reference: Page 651.1

Family

Joan Gresley

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas Astley, of Patshull: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029028&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Harcourt: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029026&tree=LEO
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), p. 46. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Lucy de Humez1,2

F, #18553, b. circa 1195, d. after 1282
FatherJohn de Humez3,2 b. c 1165, d. a 1207
ReferenceGAV23 EDV22
Last Edited18 Oct 2008
     Lucy de Humez was born circa 1195 at Sheringham, co. Norfolk, England.1 She married Sir Richard de Grey Knt., of Codnor, Derbyshire, son of Sir Henry de Grey of Grays Thurrock and IsoldaIseude de Bardolf, circa 1223.4,5,2

Lucy de Humez died after 1282.1
     GAV-23 EDV-22.

Family

Sir Richard de Grey Knt., of Codnor, Derbyshire b. c 1195, d. b 8 Sep 1271
Children

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I10897
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Fitz William 5: p. 330. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I10896
  4. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I45416
  5. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Grey, Baron Family Page - had issue. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  6. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Grey, Baron Family Page.

Sir Richard de Grey Knt., of Codnor, Derbyshire1

M, #18554, b. circa 1195, d. before 8 September 1271
FatherSir Henry de Grey of Grays Thurrock2,3 b. c 1178, d. c 1219
MotherIsoldaIseude de Bardolf4,3 b. c 1182, d. b 18 Jun 1246
ReferenceGAV23 EDV22
Last Edited18 Oct 2008
     Sir Richard de Grey Knt., of Codnor, Derbyshire was born circa 1195 at Codnor, Derbyshire, England.5 He married Lucy de Humez, daughter of John de Humez, circa 1223.5,6,1

Sir Richard de Grey Knt., of Codnor, Derbyshire died before 8 September 1271.5,6
     GAV-23 EDV-22 GKJ-24.

; RICHARD de GREY, of Codnor; Warden Guernsey and Jersey 1226 and 1254, Sheriff Essex and Herts 1239, Steward Gascony c 1248 and 1253; sided with Simnon de Montfort in the Barons' War 1258 on; Keeper Dover Castle on behalf of the baronial party, Keeper Rochester after Battle of Lewes 1264; later taken prisoner by HENRY III and his lands confiscated but these were shortly afterwards restored to him; m by 1223 Lucy, dau and heiress of John de Humez, and d by 8 Sept 1271, having had, with two daus (Agnes, m Sir William Fitzwilliam; Isabel, m William, s of Henry de Fauconberg.7

Family

Lucy de Humez b. c 1195, d. a 1282
Children

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Fitz William 5: p. 330. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  2. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I1260
  3. [S1792] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 22 Oct 2004 "Descent from Richard III of Normandy to Jane Lowe (Grey of Sandiacre)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 22 Oct 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 22 Oct 2004."
  4. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I1261
  5. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I45416
  6. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Grey, Baron Family Page - had issue. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  7. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Grey, Baron Family Page.

John de Humez1

M, #18555, b. circa 1165, d. after 1207
FatherJordan de Humez2 b. c 1135
MotherHawise (?)3 b. c 1135
ReferenceGAV24 EDV23
Last Edited18 Oct 2008
     John de Humez was born circa 1165 at Sheringham, co. Norfolk, England.1
John de Humez died after 1207.1
     GAV-24 EDV-23.

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I10896
  2. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I45417
  3. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I45418
  4. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Fitz William 5: p. 330. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Jordan de Humez1

M, #18556, b. circa 1135
FatherRichard du Hommet Connétable de Normandie2,3 b. c 1125, d. 1181
MotherAgnes de Say4 b. c 1110
ReferenceGAV25 EDV24
Last Edited26 Jul 2020
     Jordan de Humez married Hawise (?)5
Jordan de Humez was born circa 1135 at Normandy, France.1
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Odo of Bayeux 2010 , Ravilious, John Paul.3

; Per Med Lands:
     "JORDAN du Hommet . “Ricardus de Humet constabularius regis Angliæ” confirmed the foundation of Aulnay, including donations made by “Jordani de Saio et Luciæ uxoris eius” and by himself and “Agnetis uxoris meæ et filiorum meorum Willelmi, Enguerrani et Jordani”, by undated charter[771]. Robert of Torigny names "Guillermum, Enjorannum, Jordanum" as the sons and heirs of "Richardus de Humet constabularius regis" when recording his death[772]. [The Red Book of the Exchequer records enfeoffments in the duchy of Normandy in [1172], "Jordanus de Humeto" with 3 knights "de feodo de Cliville" and 13 knights in his own service[773]. The chronology of the family suggests the possibility that this Jordan du Hommet was the same person as the son of Richard du Hommet.] Henry II King of England confirmed the possessions of the abbey of Aunay, including donations by "Richardi de Humetis et Agnetis uxoris sue, filie et heredis predicti Jordani" with the agreement of "Guillelmi de Humetis et Engerranni et Jordani filiorum suorum", by charter dated to [1181/89][774]. "Jordano de Humetis, Ricardo de Humetis, Baudewino Wac…Bartholomeo de Mortuo mari..:Willelmo de Sae, Henrico de Humetis fratre suo…" witnessed the charter dated to the late 12th century under which "Lucia de Humetis" donated revenue from land at Bradecroft, near Stamford to Southwick priory, Lincolnshire[775]."
Med Lands cites:
[771] Gallia Christiana, Tome XI, Instrumenta, XXIV, col. 88.
[772] Robert de Torigny, Vol. II, 1181, p. 93.
[773] Red Book Exchequer, Part II, Infeudationes militum…duci Normanniæ…1172, p. 630.
[774] Actes Henri II, Tome II, DCCXLV, p. 379.
[775] Stenton (Danelaw, 1920), Southwick, 441, p. 325.6


; NB: Neither Genealogics, nor Med Lands assign a wife or any children to Jodan. The information I have concerning a wife, Hawise, and a son, John "de Humez", is from an old RootsWeb genealogy that is no longer accessible.7,6,3 GAV-25 EDV-2.

Family

Hawise (?) b. c 1135
Child

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I45417
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Richard de Hummet: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00573414&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jordan de Hummet: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00573419&tree=LEO
  4. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I30850
  5. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I45418
  6. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normabc.htm#RichardHommetdied1181. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  7. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002.

Hawise (?)1

F, #18557, b. circa 1135
ReferenceGAV25 EDV24
Last Edited12 Feb 2003
     Hawise (?) married Jordan de Humez, son of Richard du Hommet Connétable de Normandie and Agnes de Say.1
Hawise (?) was born circa 1135.1
     GAV-25 EDV-24.

Family

Jordan de Humez b. c 1135
Child

Richard du Hommet Connétable de Normandie1

M, #18558, b. circa 1125, d. 1181
FatherRobert 'nepos Episcopi' (?)2,1,3 b. c 1100, d. a 1130
ReferenceGAV26 EDV25
Last Edited26 Jul 2020
     Richard du Hommet Connétable de Normandie married Agnes de Say
;
His 2nd wife (per Med Lands.)1,3 Richard du Hommet Connétable de Normandie married NN du Hommet, daughter of Guillaume I du Hommet.4
Richard du Hommet Connétable de Normandie was born circa 1125.3
Richard du Hommet Connétable de Normandie died in 1181 at Aunay, France (now); Genealogics says d. 1181; Med Lands says d. 1180-81.1,3
     GAV-26 EDV-25.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Odo of Bayeux 2010 , Ravilious, John Paul.3 Richard du Hommet Connétable de Normandie was also known as Richard de Hummet.3 Richard du Hommet Connétable de Normandie was also known as Richard de Humez.5,1

; Per Med Lands:
     "RICHARD [du Hommet] (-[1180/81]). Assuming that his first marriage is correctly shown below, Richard adopted the name “du Hommet” after inheriting properties (including the right to the office Connétable de Normandie) from his first wife. Connétable de Normandie: "Ricardo de Humez constabulario…Roberto de Dunstanvilla…" witnessed the charter dated to [1152/54] under which Henri Duke of Normandy ceded the former house of "Conani thesaurarii" to Bayeux until his heirs paid a debt[744]. "Ricardus de Humez constabularius, Richardus de Haia…Robertus de Dunstanvilla…" witnessed the charter dated under which Henri Duke of Normandy notified a judgment relating to the house of the late "Conani thesaurarii" by charter dated to [1152/54][745]. Richard de Bohon Bishop of Coutances notified "…Ricardo de Hometo constabulo regis…" that he had placed a priest of the church of Thaon by charter dated to [1164][746]. "Guillelmus de Humeto" [identified as his son Guillaume [II] du Hommet?] confirmed the donation to Bayeux of the church of Hérils made by "Roberti de Novo Burgo" by charter dated 1166, witnessed by "…Ricardo de Humeto…"[747]. Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the Exchequer, in 1166, record that "Ricardi de Humez" held two knights fees in Sussex under the Earl of Arundel[748]. “Ricardus de Humet constabularius Henrici regis Angliæ” donated the church of St. Andrew, Stanford to Stanford Nunnery by charter dated 3 Feb 1170[749]. The Red Book of the Exchequer records enfeoffments in the duchy of Normandy in [1172], "Ricardus de Humeto" with 3 and a half knights "de honore de Hummeto" and 18 knights in his own service[750]. “Ricardus de Humet constabularius regis Angliæ” confirmed the foundation of Aulnay, including donations made by “Jordani de Saio et Luciæ uxoris eius” and by himself and “Agnetis uxoris meæ et filiorum meorum Willelmi, Enguerrani et Jordani”, by undated charter[751]. Henry II King of England confirmed the possessions of the abbey of Aulnay, including donations by "Richardi de Humetis et Agnetis uxoris sue, filie et heredis predicti Jordani" with the agreement of "Guillelmi de Humetis et Engerranni et Jordani filiorum suorum", by charter dated to [1181/89][752]. Robert of Torigny records the death in 1181 of "Richardus de Humet constabularius regis", adding that he had lived one and a half years as a monk "in abbatia de Alneto" [Aulnay] which he had built and that he left "filios suos heredes suæ terræ…Guillermum, Enjorannum, Jordanum"[753]. There must be some doubt about this year of death in light of the charter dated 1180 under which Henry II King of England confirmed "Willelmo de Humetis constabulariam meam" in his office previously held by "Ricardus de Humetis pater suus"[754].
     "[m [firstly] --- du Hommet, daughter of GUILLAUME du Hommet [Connétable de Normandie] & his wife ---. Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by a charter dated 1213 under which Guillaume du Hommet granted to Roger de Saint-Lo “the chapel of Sainte Catherine, in the parish of Le Desert” including rent which “Guillelmus de Humeto constabularius avus meus” had donated before he married his daughter to “Ricardo” (“antequam filiam suam maritasset Ricardo”)[755]. Assuming that the information recorded in this charter is factually correct (about which there must be some doubt as pointed out above), this person must have been Richard’s first wife as she would have been the mother of his oldest son. Another document confuses the issue: by undated charter “Richard du Hommet, Constable of King Henry [Henry II], grandson of William du Hommet abovenamed” donated tithes from mills to Saint-Fromond by undated charter[756]. Richard would have been the son-in-law not grandson of Guillaume [I] du Hommet assuming that the information included in the 1213 document is correct, although “grandson” in Stapleton’s translated summary of the undated charter presumably represents his translation (maybe incorrect?) of the Latin term.]
     "m [secondly] AGNES de Say, daughter of JORDAN de Say & his wife Lucy ---. Her parentage and marriage are referred to in Domesday Descendants[757]. Richard du Hommet donated property to Aunay with the consent of "uxore mea Agnete et filiis meis Willelmo, Engerranno et Jordano" by undated charter[758]. Henry II King of England confirmed the possessions of the abbey of Aunay, including donations by "Richardi de Humetis et Agnetis uxoris sue, filie et heredis predicti Jordani" with the agreement of "Guillelmi de Humetis et Engerranni et Jordani filiorum suorum", by charter dated to [1181/89][759].
     "Richard & his [first] wife had one child:
i) GUILLAUME [II] du Hommet (-after 1213).

     "Richard & his [first/second] wife had [four] children:
ii) ENGUERRAND du Hommet.
iii) JORDAN du Hommet.
iv) [AGATHA du Hommet .]
v) [daughter (-after 14 Jul 1223). Dame de Glos."

Med Lands cites:
[744] Bayeux (Livre noir), Tome I, XIII, p. 19.
[745] Bayeux (Livre noir), Tome I, CXXXVIII, p. 166.
[746] Bayeux (Livre noir), Tome I, CXXXIV, p. 161.
[747] Bayeux (Livre noir), Tome I, CV, p. 128.
[748] Red Book Exchequer, Part I, Certificationes factæ de feodis militum, p. 202.
[749] Dugdale Monasticon IV, Stanford Nunnery, Lincolnshire, V, p. 261.
[750] Red Book Exchequer, Part II, Infeudationes militum…duci Normanniæ…1172, p. 630.
[751] Gallia Christiana, Tome XI, Instrumenta, XXIV, col. 88.
[752] Actes Henri II, Tome II, DCCXLV, p. 379.
[753] Robert de Torigny, Vol. II, 1181, p. 93.
[754] Actes Henri II, Tome II, DXLIX, p. 126.
[755] Rotuli Scaccarii Normanniæ, Vol. II, pp. clxxxi-clxxxii, (no citation reference).
[756] Rotuli Scaccarii Normanniæ, Vol. II, p. clxxxii (no citation reference).
[757] Domesday Descendants, p. 680, citing Arch. dept. du Calvados H660, Histoire de l’abbaye d’Aunay.
[758] Robert de Torigny, Vol. II, p. 93 footnote 5, quoting Archives de Calvados, fonds d’Aunay, no. 25.
[759] Actes Henri II, Tome II, DCCXLV, p. 379.1


; Per Med Lands:
     "daughter . Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by a charter dated 1213 under which Guillaume du Hommet granted to Roger de Saint-Lo “the chapel of Sainte Catherine, in the parish of Le Desert” including rent which “Guillelmus de Humeto constabularius [avus meus” had donated before he married his daughter to “Ricardo” (“antequam filiam suam maritasset Ricardo”)[736]. Assuming that the information recorded in this charter is factually correct (about which there must be some doubt as pointed out above), this person must have been Richard’s first wife as she would have been the mother of his oldest son. Another document confuses the issue: by undated charter “Richard du Hommet, Constable of King Henry [Henry II], grandson of William du Hommet abovenamed” donated tithes from mills to Saint-Fromond by undated charter[737]. Richard would have been the son-in-law not grandson of Guillaume [I] du Hommet assuming that the information included in the 1213 document is correct, although “grandson” in Stapleton’s translated summary of the undated charter presumably represents his translation (maybe incorrect?) of the Latin term.
     "m as his first wife, RICHARD [du Hommet], son of ROBERT & his wife --- (-[1180/81]).]"
Med Lands cites:
[736] Rotuli Scaccarii Normanniæ, Vol. II, pp. clxxxi-clxxxii, (no citation reference).
[737] Rotuli Scaccarii Normanniæ, Vol. II, p. clxxxii (no citation reference).4


; Per Genealogics:
     “Richard der Hummet's father was recorded as Robert 'nepos Episcopi'. He was King Henry II's constable of Normandy. In 1146 he was a witness to an agreement between Robert de Caen, earl of Gloucester, and Philippe de Harcourt, bishop of Bayeux. 'Ricardo de Humeto constabulario' was witness to a charter of Henry II confirming a grant to the church of Throwley to the priory of St. Bertin (St.Omer) in June-July 1155. He was the founder of the abbey of Aunay. In 1164 Henry II sent Richard to take the barony of Cambour in Normandy into the king's hand.
     “Richard married Agnes de Say, daughter of Jordan de Say and Lucy de Rumilly. They had at least three children. Richard became a monk and in 1181 died in the abbey of Aunay.”.3

Family 1

NN du Hommet
Child

Family 2

Agnes de Say b. c 1110
Child

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normabc.htm#RichardHommetdied1181. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert 'nepos Episcopi': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00573413&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Richard de Hummet: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00573414&tree=LEO
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normabc.htm#dauGuillaumeHommetMRichard
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00573414&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jordan de Hummet: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00573419&tree=LEO

Agnes de Say1

F, #18559, b. circa 1110
ReferenceGAV26 EDV25
Last Edited26 Jul 2020
     Agnes de Say married Richard du Hommet Connétable de Normandie, son of Robert 'nepos Episcopi' (?),
;
His 2nd wife (per Med Lands.)2,3 Agnes de Say was born circa 1110.1
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "RICHARD [du Hommet] (-[1180/81]). Assuming that his first marriage is correctly shown below, Richard adopted the name “du Hommet” after inheriting properties (including the right to the office Connétable de Normandie) from his first wife. Connétable de Normandie: "Ricardo de Humez constabulario…Roberto de Dunstanvilla…" witnessed the charter dated to [1152/54] under which Henri Duke of Normandy ceded the former house of "Conani thesaurarii" to Bayeux until his heirs paid a debt[744]. "Ricardus de Humez constabularius, Richardus de Haia…Robertus de Dunstanvilla…" witnessed the charter dated under which Henri Duke of Normandy notified a judgment relating to the house of the late "Conani thesaurarii" by charter dated to [1152/54][745]. Richard de Bohon Bishop of Coutances notified "…Ricardo de Hometo constabulo regis…" that he had placed a priest of the church of Thaon by charter dated to [1164][746]. "Guillelmus de Humeto" [identified as his son Guillaume [II] du Hommet?] confirmed the donation to Bayeux of the church of Hérils made by "Roberti de Novo Burgo" by charter dated 1166, witnessed by "…Ricardo de Humeto…"[747]. Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the Exchequer, in 1166, record that "Ricardi de Humez" held two knights fees in Sussex under the Earl of Arundel[748]. “Ricardus de Humet constabularius Henrici regis Angliæ” donated the church of St. Andrew, Stanford to Stanford Nunnery by charter dated 3 Feb 1170[749]. The Red Book of the Exchequer records enfeoffments in the duchy of Normandy in [1172], "Ricardus de Humeto" with 3 and a half knights "de honore de Hummeto" and 18 knights in his own service[750]. “Ricardus de Humet constabularius regis Angliæ” confirmed the foundation of Aulnay, including donations made by “Jordani de Saio et Luciæ uxoris eius” and by himself and “Agnetis uxoris meæ et filiorum meorum Willelmi, Enguerrani et Jordani”, by undated charter[751]. Henry II King of England confirmed the possessions of the abbey of Aulnay, including donations by "Richardi de Humetis et Agnetis uxoris sue, filie et heredis predicti Jordani" with the agreement of "Guillelmi de Humetis et Engerranni et Jordani filiorum suorum", by charter dated to [1181/89][752]. Robert of Torigny records the death in 1181 of "Richardus de Humet constabularius regis", adding that he had lived one and a half years as a monk "in abbatia de Alneto" [Aulnay] which he had built and that he left "filios suos heredes suæ terræ…Guillermum, Enjorannum, Jordanum"[753]. There must be some doubt about this year of death in light of the charter dated 1180 under which Henry II King of England confirmed "Willelmo de Humetis constabulariam meam" in his office previously held by "Ricardus de Humetis pater suus"[754].
     "[m [firstly] --- du Hommet, daughter of GUILLAUME du Hommet [Connétable de Normandie] & his wife ---. Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by a charter dated 1213 under which Guillaume du Hommet granted to Roger de Saint-Lo “the chapel of Sainte Catherine, in the parish of Le Desert” including rent which “Guillelmus de Humeto constabularius avus meus” had donated before he married his daughter to “Ricardo” (“antequam filiam suam maritasset Ricardo”)[755]. Assuming that the information recorded in this charter is factually correct (about which there must be some doubt as pointed out above), this person must have been Richard’s first wife as she would have been the mother of his oldest son. Another document confuses the issue: by undated charter “Richard du Hommet, Constable of King Henry [Henry II], grandson of William du Hommet abovenamed” donated tithes from mills to Saint-Fromond by undated charter[756]. Richard would have been the son-in-law not grandson of Guillaume [I] du Hommet assuming that the information included in the 1213 document is correct, although “grandson” in Stapleton’s translated summary of the undated charter presumably represents his translation (maybe incorrect?) of the Latin term.]
     "m [secondly] AGNES de Say, daughter of JORDAN de Say & his wife Lucy ---. Her parentage and marriage are referred to in Domesday Descendants[757]. Richard du Hommet donated property to Aunay with the consent of "uxore mea Agnete et filiis meis Willelmo, Engerranno et Jordano" by undated charter[758]. Henry II King of England confirmed the possessions of the abbey of Aunay, including donations by "Richardi de Humetis et Agnetis uxoris sue, filie et heredis predicti Jordani" with the agreement of "Guillelmi de Humetis et Engerranni et Jordani filiorum suorum", by charter dated to [1181/89][759].
     "Richard & his [first] wife had one child:
i) GUILLAUME [II] du Hommet (-after 1213).

     "Richard & his [first/second] wife had [four] children:
ii) ENGUERRAND du Hommet.
iii) JORDAN du Hommet.
iv) [AGATHA du Hommet .]
v) [daughter (-after 14 Jul 1223). Dame de Glos."

Med Lands cites:
[744] Bayeux (Livre noir), Tome I, XIII, p. 19.
[745] Bayeux (Livre noir), Tome I, CXXXVIII, p. 166.
[746] Bayeux (Livre noir), Tome I, CXXXIV, p. 161.
[747] Bayeux (Livre noir), Tome I, CV, p. 128.
[748] Red Book Exchequer, Part I, Certificationes factæ de feodis militum, p. 202.
[749] Dugdale Monasticon IV, Stanford Nunnery, Lincolnshire, V, p. 261.
[750] Red Book Exchequer, Part II, Infeudationes militum…duci Normanniæ…1172, p. 630.
[751] Gallia Christiana, Tome XI, Instrumenta, XXIV, col. 88.
[752] Actes Henri II, Tome II, DCCXLV, p. 379.
[753] Robert de Torigny, Vol. II, 1181, p. 93.
[754] Actes Henri II, Tome II, DXLIX, p. 126.
[755] Rotuli Scaccarii Normanniæ, Vol. II, pp. clxxxi-clxxxii, (no citation reference).
[756] Rotuli Scaccarii Normanniæ, Vol. II, p. clxxxii (no citation reference).
[757] Domesday Descendants, p. 680, citing Arch. dept. du Calvados H660, Histoire de l’abbaye d’Aunay.
[758] Robert de Torigny, Vol. II, p. 93 footnote 5, quoting Archives de Calvados, fonds d’Aunay, no. 25.
[759] Actes Henri II, Tome II, DCCXLV, p. 379.2
GAV-26 EDV-25.

Family

Richard du Hommet Connétable de Normandie b. c 1125, d. 1181
Child

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I30850
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normabc.htm#RichardHommetdied1181. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Richard de Hummet: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00573414&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Fulk Paynel of Bampton, Devonshire1

M, #18560, d. 1208
FatherWilliam Paynell2 d. b 1166
MotherJuliana de Bampton2
Last Edited26 Jul 2020
     Fulk Paynel of Bampton, Devonshire married Aude (?)2

Fulk Paynel of Bampton, Devonshire died in 1208.1,2
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Sir William de Briwere, Family History Report 2011, Ravilious, John.1

; Per Med Lands:
     "FULK Paynell of Bampton, Devonshire, son of WILLIAM Paynell & his wife Juliana de Bampton (-1208). "Fulco Painel" paid a fine for "honore de Banton" in Devonshire, dated 1199[181]. The Rotulus Cancellarii records "Folqueius Painel…honoris de Banton" owing in Devonshire, dated [27 May 1201/26 May 1202][182]. “Fulcodius Paganellus de Bahantune” donated property to Tykford Priory, for the souls of “patris mei Willielmi Paganelli et matris meæ Julianæ de Bahantune et Aldæ uxoris meæ et filiorum meorum Willielmi et Fulcodii, filiarumque mearum Julianæ et Christianeæ”, by undated charter subscribed by “Willielmo Paganello fratre meo, Stephano de Bahamtune, Alberto de Bahamtune”[183]. “Fulcodius Paganellus” donated property “ecclesiam Hunespill in Brentemares” to Tykford Priory by undated charter, witnessed by “Gervasius Paganellus et uxor eius comitissa Isabella et Robertus Paganellus eorum filius, et Willielmus Paganellus prædicti Fulcodii frater…”[184].
     "m AUDE, daughter of ---. “Fulcodius Paganellus de Bahantune” donated property to Tykford Priory, for the souls of “…Aldæ uxoris meæ…”, by undated charter[185]."
Med Lands cites:
[181] Rotuli de Oblatis et Finibus, p. 4.
[182] Rotulus Cancellarii, 3 John, p. 17.
[183] Dugdale Monasticon V, Tykford Priory, Buckinghamshire, III, p. 204.
[184] Dugdale Monasticon V, Tykford Priory, Buckinghamshire, IV, p. 204.
[185] Dugdale Monasticon V, Tykford Priory, Buckinghamshire, III, p. 204.2

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Fulk de Paynel: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00589283&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntps.htm#FulkPaynelldied1208B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Paynel: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00377493&tree=LEO

Robert 'nepos Episcopi' (?)1

M, #18561, b. circa 1100, d. after 1130
FatherJohn de Bayeux2,1 b. c 1070, d. 1130
ReferenceGAV27 EDV26
Last Edited26 Jul 2020
     Robert 'nepos Episcopi' (?) married NN du Hommet, daughter of Guillaume du Hommet.1,3
Robert 'nepos Episcopi' (?) was born circa 1100.1
Robert 'nepos Episcopi' (?) died after 1130.4
      ; Per Genealogics:
     “Robert is alleged to have been son of King Henry I's chaplain Jean de Bayeux and grandson of Eudes, bishop of Bayeux. However it is accepted that he is the grandson of Bishop Eudes, but his paternity is uncertain. Robert was recorded on the Pipe Roll of 1129/30, when he was pardoned a murder fine in Hundred, Sussex.
     “Robert 'may have' married a daughter of William du Hommet who belonged to the earlier family of that name. He is recorded as the father of Richard, the constable, and Philip de Humet.”.1

Reference: Genealogics cites: Odo of Bayeux 2010 , Ravilious, John Paul.1

; Per Med Lands:
     "ROBERT (-after 1130). Domesday Descendants says that he is recorded as "nepos episcopi" and is said to have been the grandson of Odo Bishop of Bayeux but comments that "the evidence is slight and ambiguous"[739]. Of course “nepos” could be interpreted both as grandson and as nephew. The basis of the argument that the “episcopus” in question should be identified as Bishop Odo is not known. Presumably another bishop could have been Robert’s grandfather/uncle. Stapleton records an undated charter under which “Robert grandson of Bishop Odo” donated tithes to Saint-Fromond[740]. He does not specify whether the document in question specifically names Bishop Odo or whether this name represents his own speculation about the bishop’s identity. Stapleton also records the “Roll of the Exchequer 31 Hen. I. 1130” which states that “Robertus nepos Episcopi” was “an accomptant pro placito bisse in Norhamtescira”[741]. Robert’s identity as grandfather of Guillaume [II] du Hommet is confirmed by the following document: the Fine Roll “6 Joh. 1204” records a request for an inquisition made by “Simon de Eston” to ascertain whether “Simon de Eston, grandfather of him the said Simon” had mortgaged property to “Robert grandson [presumably nepos in the original, so ambiguous] of the Bishop, grandfather of William du Hommet the Constable”[742].
     "m ---. The name of Robert’s wife is not known. It is suggested that she was related to the Verdun family as shown by the following charter which records that Bertram de Verdun was brought up by [her son] Richard du Hommet: “Bertramus de Verdun” founded Croxden abbey, for the souls of “Normanni de Verdune patris mei et Lucelinæ matris meæ et Richardi de Humez qui me nutrivit”, by undated charter[743]."
Med Lands cites:
[739] Domesday Descendants, p. 522, citing Foster, C. W. and Major, K. The Registrum Antiquissimum of the Cathedral Church of Lincoln, Vol. VI, pp. 181-6.
[740] Rotuli Scaccarii Normanniæ, Vol. II, p. clxxxii (no citation reference).
[741] Rotuli Scaccarii Normanniæ, Vol. II, p. clxxxii (no citation reference).
[742] Rotuli Scaccarii Normanniæ, Vol. II, p. clxxxii (no citation reference).
[743] Dugdale Monasticon V, Croxden Abbey, Staffordshire, II, p. 662.5
GAV-27 EDV-26.

; Per Stewart email:
     "Four men that I know of were each called or implied to be "nepos" to Odo in different sources, contexts and times...
     "The third "nepos" was Robert, who held possessions in Great Limber, Bonby and Stallingborough in the Lindsey survey of 1115/18 and in La Ferrière-du-Val, Crespigny and Roucamps at the time of the 1133 inquest into fiefs of the bishopric of Bayeux. It is certain that Odo was the bishop in question, as specified in the pancarte of Saint-Fromond recording Robert's donation in La Rivière ("De dono Roberti nepotis Odonis episcopi totam decimam de Riveria, in piscariis et herbagiis et nemore, in marisco, in teloneo"). This man was the father of Richard I, seigneur of Le Hommet & constable of Normandy, who occurs from 1143 to February 1180 when he died as a monk at Aunay. In the same document Richard was called a "nepos" of Guillaume du Hommet (of the earlier baronial family), so that assuming a basic consistency in the meaning of "nepos" he was either a grand-nephew to Odo of Bayeux and a nephew to Guillaume du Hommet or else one of them was his paternal and the other his maternal grandfather. The latter scheme appears more likely on chronological grounds.”.3

Family 1

NN du Hommet

Family 2

Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert 'nepos Episcopi': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00573413&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jean de Bayeux: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00453262&tree=LEO
  3. [S4785] Peter Stesart, "SocGenMed email thread: "Nepotes" of Odo, bishop of Bayeux," e-mail message from <e-mail address> (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/soc.genealogy.medieval/odo$20de$20bayeux%7Csort:date/soc.genealogy.medieval/wgrfjBvtAnw/tQVAZE8uZSwJ) to soc.genealogy.medieval (Google Groups), 29 Nov 2010, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/soc.genealogy.medieval/odo$20de$20bayeux%7Csort:date/soc.genealogy.medieval/wgrfjBvtAnw/tQVAZE8uZSwJ. Hereinafter cited as "Stewart email 2010: "Nepotes" of Odo bishop of Bayeux."
  4. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I30886
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normabc.htm#_Toc38177823. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  6. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normabc.htm#RichardHommetdied1181
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Richard de Hummet: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00573414&tree=LEO

John de Bayeux1

M, #18562, b. circa 1070, d. 1130
FatherOdo/Eudes (?) de Conteville, Bishop of Bayeux, 1st Earl of Kent2,3,4,5,1 b. c 1030, d. c 6 Jan 1097
ReferenceGAV28 EDV27
Last Edited26 Jul 2020
     John de Bayeux married (?) de Humez.6
John de Bayeux was born circa 1070.6,1
John de Bayeux died in 1130.1
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "JEAN de Bayeux (-1131). Son of Eudes bishop of Bayeux according to Orderic Vitalis, who records that Jean gave King Henry news of the death of his nephew Guillaume "Clito" Count of Flanders in 1128[93]. Orderic Vitalis records that he lived at the court of Henry I King of England where he was held in esteem for his eloquence and probity[94]"
Med Lands cites:
[93] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. VI, Book XII, p. 379.
[94] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. III, p. 264.4
He was Per ODNB: "one of Henry I's chaplains."5

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3/4:694B.1

; Per Genealogics:
     “Europaïsche Stammtafeln shows only one illegitimate child for Eudes, bishop of Bayeux. It is not certain that this Jean is the father of Robert 'nepos Episcopi', who is acknowledged to be the son of 'a son' of Bishop Eudes.
     “Jean de Bayeux was chaplain to King Henry I of England.”.1

; Per Richardson email:
     "John, illegitimate son, living 1128, royal chaplain [Reference: David Crouch, The Normans: The History of a Dynasty (2002): 31 (chart)].
     "For further information on John, the illegitimate son of Bishop Eudes (or Odo), see Dictionary of National Biography, 14 (1908): 869-871 (biog. of Odo, Bishop of Bayeux and Earl of Kent). The suggestion is made there that John might be the father of Robert "nepos Episcopi" who married the daughter and heiress of William du Hommet, and by her left a son, Richard du Hommet, who became hereditary Constable of Normandy. I believe this Richard du Hommet is the father of Guillaume du Hommet, Constable of Normandy, living 1220, who married Lucy, granddaughter and heiress of Adam I de Brus."7 GAV-28 EDV-27.

Family 1

(?) de Humez b. c 1070

Family 2

Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jean de Bayeux: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00453262&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1770] Anthony J. Camp, My Ancestors Came with the Conqueror: Those Who Did, and Some of Those Who Probably Did Not (Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1998), p. 30. Hereinafter cited as Camp [1998] My Ancestors Came with the Conqueror.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eudes|Odo: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00453261&tree=LEO
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normabc.htm#EudesBayeuxKentdied1097. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S2286] Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, online http://oxforddnb.com/index/, https://doi.org/10.1093/ref:odnb/20543. Hereinafter cited as ODNB - Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.
  6. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I30888
  7. [S2047] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 22 Jan 2006: "King's Kinsfolk: King Henry I of England's kinsman, John"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 10 Apr 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 10 Apr 2006."
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert 'nepos Episcopi': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00573413&tree=LEO

(?) de Humez1

F, #18563, b. circa 1070
Last Edited27 Jul 2020
     (?) de Humez married John de Bayeux, son of Odo/Eudes (?) de Conteville, Bishop of Bayeux, 1st Earl of Kent.1
(?) de Humez was born circa 1070.1

Family

John de Bayeux b. c 1070, d. 1130

Muriel de Conteville1

F, #18564
FatherHerluin (?) Vicomte de Conteville1 b. c 1001, d. c 1066
MotherHerleveArlette (?) de Falaise1 b. c 1000, d. c 1050
Last Edited25 Oct 2001
     Muriel de Conteville married Eudo la Chapel.1

Family

Eudo la Chapel

Drogo de Montacute1

M, #18566, d. circa 1061
FatherRobert I "The Magnificent" (?) Duke of Normandy1 b. c 999, d. 2 Jul 1035
MotherHerleveArlette (?) de Falaise1 b. c 1000, d. c 1050
ReferenceGAV24
Last Edited4 Aug 2006
     Drogo de Montacute died circa 1061.1
     GAV-24.

; The name Montagu derives from the Latin mons acutus ('pointed peak'), or, when applied to a person associated with the place which took its name from the phrase, de Monte Acuto. A cone-shaped hill stands behind the Somerset village of Montacute in Somerset to this day. (The mansion there is Elizabethan, however, and has no connection with the early Lords Montagu). A family called de Montagu, descended from a Domesday tenant (i.e, who was living 1086), held land in the area of Somerset where Montacute is situated throughout the 12th and 13th centuries.2

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I9265
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Montague of Beaulieu Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.

Gwenllian Talbot1

F, #18567, b. circa 1282
FatherRichard Talbot Lord of Eccleswall1 b. c 1250, d. b 3 Sep 1306
MotherSarah de Beauchamp1 b. c 1252, d. a Jul 1317
Last Edited26 Oct 2001
     Gwenllian Talbot married Sir Payn de Turberville.2
Gwenllian Talbot was born circa 1282 at Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England.1

Family

Sir Payn de Turberville d. c 1318

Sir Payn de Turberville1

M, #18568, d. circa 1318
Last Edited26 Oct 2001
     Sir Payn de Turberville was born at Coyty, Glamorganshire, Wales.1 He married Gwenllian Talbot, daughter of Richard Talbot Lord of Eccleswall and Sarah de Beauchamp.1

Sir Payn de Turberville died circa 1318.1

Family

Gwenllian Talbot b. c 1282

Richard Talbot1

M, #18569, b. before 1286, d. circa 10 October 1328
FatherRichard Talbot Lord of Eccleswall2,3 b. c 1250, d. b 3 Sep 1306
MotherSarah de Beauchamp2 b. c 1252, d. a Jul 1317
Last Edited15 Nov 2020
     Richard Talbot was born before 1286 at Richard's Castle, Herefordshire, England.4,2 He married Joane de Mortimer, daughter of Hugh de Mortimer 1st Lord Mortimer, after 1316.2

Richard Talbot died circa 10 October 1328.2
Richard Talbot was buried after 10 October 1328 at Wormesley Priory, Herefordshire, England.2

Family

Joane de Mortimer b. b 24 Nov 1291, d. b 12 Jan 1342
Child

Citations

  1. [S1720] David Utz, "Utz email #2 29 May 2005 "Aline de Gai's descents to Robert Abell"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 May 2005, 5 Richard Talbot b: Bef. 1286 d: Abt. 10 October 1328 Burial: Wormesley Priory, HEF, ENG
    .... +Joane de Mortimer b: Bef. 24 November 1291 in Caerphilly Castle m: Aft. 1316 d: Abt. 12 January 1340/41. Hereinafter cited as "Utz email #2 29 May 2005."
  2. [S1720] David Utz, "Utz email #2 29 May 2005," e-mail to e-mail address, 29 May 2005.
  3. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Shrewsbury and Waterford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  4. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I41613

Joane de Mortimer1,2

F, #18570, b. before 24 November 1291, d. before 12 January 1342
FatherHugh de Mortimer 1st Lord Mortimer3 d. 20 Jul 1304
Last Edited6 Oct 2020
     Joane de Mortimer was born before 24 November 1291 at Caerphilly Castle, England.3,4 She was baptized on 24 November 1291.3 She married Thomas de Bykenore before 12 August 1305.3
Joane de Mortimer married Richard Talbot, son of Richard Talbot Lord of Eccleswall and Sarah de Beauchamp, after 1316.4

Joane de Mortimer died before 12 January 1342; Utz #2 29 May 2005 says d. ca 12 Jan 1340/41.3,4
      ; Joan; bapt 24 Nov 1291; m 1st by 12 Aug 1305 Thomas de Bykenore (dsp c 1316); m 2nd Richard Talbot, (see SHREWSBURY and WATERFORD, E), who thus acquired Richard's Castle, and d by 12 Jan 1341/2, aparently leaving issue by him which died out by 1388.3

Family 1

Thomas de Bykenore d. c 1316

Family 2

Richard Talbot b. b 1286, d. c 10 Oct 1328
Child

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I41614
  2. [S1720] David Utz, "Utz email #2 29 May 2005 "Aline de Gai's descents to Robert Abell"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 May 2005, 5 Richard Talbot b: Bef. 1286 d: Abt. 10 October 1328 Burial: Wormesley Priory, HEF, ENG
    .... +Joane de Mortimer b: Bef. 24 November 1291 in Caerphilly Castle m: Aft. 1316 d: Abt. 12 January 1340/41. Hereinafter cited as "Utz email #2 29 May 2005."
  3. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Zouche Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  4. [S1720] David Utz, "Utz email #2 29 May 2005," e-mail to e-mail address, 29 May 2005.