Maude de Chaworth1,2,3

F, #4801, b. 2 February 1282, d. between 4 August 1320 and 3 December 1322
FatherSir Patrick de Chaworth Knt.1,4 b. 1253, d. b 7 Jul 1283
MotherIsabel de Beauchamp1,4 b. c 1260, d. b 30 May 1306
ReferenceGAV18 EDV19
Last Edited23 Nov 2020
     Maude de Chaworth was born on 2 February 1282 at Kidwelly, Carmarthenshire, Wales, England (now).5,2 She married Sir Henry (?) Knt., 3rd Earl of Lancaster and Leicester, son of Edmund (Crouchback) of Woodstock (?) Knt., Earl of Lancaster, Leicester, Derby and Blanche (?) d'Artois, Queen of Navarre and Champagne, between 2 March 1296 and 1297;
His 1st wife.5,6,7,1,8,4,9,10,11,2
Maude de Chaworth died between 4 August 1320 and 3 December 1322; Per Complete Peerage 7 (1912): "400 (sub Lancaster) states that Maud de Chaworth, wife of Henry of Lancaster, Earl of Lancaster, "was living 19 Feb. 1317, but died before 3 Dec. 1322, and was buried at Mottisfont Priory."
Per Richardson:
     "It appears that Maud's death date can be narrowed down a bit further. The source, Calendar of Various Chancery Rolls A.D. 1277
1326 (1912), pp. 153 154 indicates that Maud, wife of Henry of Lancaster, was still living 4 August 1320, as indicated by the record abstracted below:
     "Date: 4 Aug. 1320. "To the sheriff of Southampton. Order to prohibit the bailiffs of Henry de Lancastria and of Maud, his wife, at Kyngessumbourn [King's Sombourn, co. Hants] from holding the plea that is in Henry and Maud's court at Kyngessumburn between Henry de Welles, demandant, and William atte Houke, tenant, concerning a messuage and a carucate of land in Kyngessumburn, which Henry de Welles claims against William by writ of right, unless duel have been waged, as the tenant has put himself upon the grand assize."
     "With the above record in view, it is more accurate to state that Maud de Chaworth, wife of Henry of Lancaster, "was living 4 Aug. 1320, but died before 3 Dec. 1322."
     "Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah E-mail: royalancestry@msn.com.7,12,2
Maude de Chaworth was buried between 4 August 1320 and 3 December 1322 at Monttisfont Priory, Mottisfont, Hampshire, England,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1282, England
     DEATH     1322 (aged 39–40), England
     Daughter of Sir Patrick Chaworth 1254-1283 (I will not link to his unknown burial memorial) and Isabella de Beauchamp 1255-1306. Granddaughter of Patrick de Chaworth and Hawise de Londres, William de Beauchamp, 9th Earl of Warwick and Maud FitzJohn.
     Wife of Henry Plantagenet (Henry of Lancaster), son of Sir Edmund of England and Blanche d'Artois. They were married after 30 Dec 1291 (the grant of her marriage) and before 02 March 1297, and had one son and six daughters:
* Henry Grosmont, Henry of Lancaster, married Isabel De Beaumont
* Blanche, wife of Sir Thomas Wake
* Maude, wife of Sir William de Burgh
* Joan, wife of Sir John Mowbray
* Isabel, nun at Amesbury Priory
* Eleanor, wife of Sir John de Beaumont and Sir Richard de Arundel
* Mary, wife of Sir Henry de Percy
     Matilda was one year old when her father died and she became a wealthy heiress, and a ward of the Queen Eleanor. Her son, Edmund, would betroth Matilda to his son, Henry, who inherited all his wife's properties by marriage.
     Matilda attended the coronation of King Edward II in 1308, and died by testate by 03 Dec 1322, buried at Mottisfort Priory, of which she was a patron as co-heiress to William Briwere, one the Priory's founders.
     Family Members
     Parents
          Isabel De Beauchamp Despenser 1256–1306
     Spouse
          Henry of Lancaster 1281–1345
     Siblings
          Isabel le Despenser de Monthermer unknown–1334
          Hugh le Despenser 1286–1326
          Philip I Despenser 1290–1313
     Children
          Isabel de Plantagenet unknown–1349
          Blanche Plantagenet Wake 1305–1380
          Henry of Lancaster 1310–1361
          Matilda of Lancaster Ufford 1310–1377
          Joan Plantagenet Mowbray 1312–1349
          Eleanor Plantagenet FitzAlan de Arundel 1318–1372
          Mary Plantagenet Percy 1320–1362
     BURIAL     Mottisfont Abbey, Mottisfont, Test Valley Borough, Hampshire, England
     Created by: Anne Shurtleff Stevens
     Added: 23 Mar 2012
     Find a Grave Memorial 87259474.5,12,13
     Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Burke's Guide to the Royal Family, London, 1973. 196.
2. The Ancestry of Elizabeth of York, 1999 , Lewis, Marlyn. 159.
3. Biogr. details drawn from Wikipedia.2
GAV-18 EDV-19 GKJ-19.

; This is the same person as ”Maud Chaworth” at Wikipedia.14

; Per Genealogics:
     “Maud de Chaworth was born on 2 February 1282, the only child of Sir Patrick de Chaworth, lord of Kidwelly in Carmarthenshire, South Wales, and Isabel de Beauchamp. Her father died in 1283 aged about 30. About three years later her mother married Hugh le Despenser, earl of Winchester, and had two sons and four daughters by him. This made Maud the half-sister of Hugh le Despencer 'the Younger'. Her mother died in 1306, more than two decades after her first husband.
     “When her father died, Maud was only a year old and left a rich heiress. She became a ward of Eleanor of Castile, comtesse de Ponthieu, wife of Edward I 'Longshanks', king of England. About 2 March 1297 she married Henry, 3rd Earl of Lancaster and Leicester, son of Edmund 'Crouchback', earl of Lancaster, earl of Leicester, and Blanche d'Artois, regent of Navarre. They had seven children of whom their son Henry and four daughters would have progeny.
     “Maud died in 1322, and was buried at Mottisfont Priory in Hampshire. Henry did not remarry, and died in 1345. All but one of his seven children with Maud outlived him.”.2

; Per Med Lands:
     "MAUD Chaworth (2 Feb 1282-before 3 Dec 1322, bur Mottisfont Priory). Inquisitions after a writ dated 7 Jul "11 Edw I" following the death of "Patrick de Cadurcis...” name “Maud his daughter aged 1 at the feast of the Purification last is his next heir...Isabel his wife”[1374].
     "m (before 2 Mar 1297) HENRY of Lancaster "Tortcol/Wryneck", son of EDMUND "Crouchback" Earl of Lancaster and Leicester & his second wife Blanche d'Artois [Capet] (Grosmont Castle, Monmouthshire [1281]-Leicester 22 Sep 1345, bur Newark Abbey, Leicester). Lord of Monmouth 1297. Lord Lancaster 1299. Earl of Leicester 1324. Earl of Lancaster 1327."
Med Lands cites:
[1374] Inquisitions Post Mortem, Vol. II, Edward I, 477, p. 288.3


; Per Weis: “Maud de Chaworth by (1); m. bef 2 Mar. 1297 Henry (17-29) "of Lancaster," 3rd Earl of Lancaster, b. 1281, d. 22 Sept. 1345. (CP I:244, CP VIII:396, 400-401).”.15

; Per Genealogy.EU (Anjou 3): “D2. Henry, 3rd Earl of Lancaster & Leicester, *Grosmont Castle ca 1281, +Leicester 22.9.1348, bur Newark Abbey, Leicester; 1m: before 2.3.1297 Maud de Chaworth (*1282 +after 19.2.1317/22); 2m: after 1322 Alix de Joinville (+after 19.4.1336)”.16

; Per Weis: "Henry, "of Lancaster," 3rd Earl of Lancaster and Leicester, b. 1281, d. 22 Sept. 1345, but. Newark Abbey, co. Leics; m. (1) bef 2 Mar. 1297, Maud de Chaworth (72-32), b. 1282, d. bef. 3 Dec. 1322; m. (2) Alix de Geneville (71A-31) d. 19 Apr. 1336, wid. of Jean d'Arcis, d. 1307, dau. of John de Geneville (71A-30), Seneschal of Champagne, son of Simon de Joinville (71A-29). (CP I:244, II:61, VII:156, 396-401; ES VII/6).”.17

; Per Genealogy.EU (Anjou 3): “D2. Henry, 3rd Earl of Lancaster & Leicester, *Grosmont Castle ca 1281, +Leicester 22.9.1348, bur Newark Abbey, Leicester; 1m: before 2.3.1297 Maud de Chaworth (*1282 +after 19.2.1317/22); 2m: after 1322 Alix de Joinville (+after 19.4.1336)”.18

; Per Med Lands:
     "HENRY of Lancaster "Tortcol/Wryneck", son of EDMUND "Crouchback" Earl of Lancaster and Leicester & his second wife Blanche d'Artois [Capet] (Grosmont Castle, Monmouthshire [1281]-Leicester 22 Sep 1345, bur Newark Abbey, Leicester). Known as Lord of Monmouth from 20 Mar 1297. Summoned to Parliament as Lord Lancaster from 6 Feb 1299. He was among the barons who forced King Edward II to agree to the appointment of the Ordainers, the leader of whom was his older brother. Although he joined the confederacy against the Despencers in 1320, he took no part in the rebellion of his brother Thomas. He was restored to the earldom of Leicester 29 Mar 1324. In Sep 1326, he joined the queen's party and Roger Mortimer against the king. He was sent to in pursuit of Edward, who had fled to Wales, captured him at Neath and was responsible for his custody at Kenilworth castle until 4 Apr 1327. Used the title Earl of Lancaster from 26 Oct 1326, restored to that earldom 3 Feb 1327 on his brother's rehabilitation. Appointed Guardian of the young King Edward III on his accession. He went blind some time in 1330. He was a close friend and supporter of Edward III after the fall of Mortimer. He succeeded his brother John as Seigneur de Beaufort et de Nogent. The Chronicon Angliæ records the death of “dominus Henricus comes Lancastre pater Henrici comitis de Derby” and his burial “Leycestriæ in monasterio canonicorum”, dated to 1345 from the context[1014].
     "m (before 2 Mar 1297) MAUD Chaworth, daughter and heiress of PATRICK de Chaworth of Kidwelly & his wife Isabel Beauchamp (2 Feb 1282-before 3 Dec 1322, bur Mottisfont Priory). Inquisitions after a writ dated 7 Jul "11 Edw I" following the death of "Patrick de Cadurcis...” name “Maud his daughter aged 1 at the feast of the Purification last is his next heir...Isabel his wife”[1015]."
Med Lands cites:
[1014] Chronicon Angliæ 1328-1388 (1874), p. 20.
[1015] Inquisitions Post Mortem, Vol. II, Edward I, 477, p. 288.

Family

Sir Henry (?) Knt., 3rd Earl of Lancaster and Leicester b. c 1281, d. 22 Sep 1345
Children

Citations

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    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 19-29, p. 23. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
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Sir Henry (?) Knt., 3rd Earl of Lancaster and Leicester1,2,3,4

M, #4802, b. circa 1281, d. 22 September 1345
FatherEdmund (Crouchback) of Woodstock (?) Knt., Earl of Lancaster, Leicester, Derby5,1,6,7,3 b. bt 16 Jan 1244 - 1245, d. 5 Jun 1296
MotherBlanche (?) d'Artois, Queen of Navarre and Champagne5,8,9,7,3 b. c 1248, d. 2 May 1302
ReferenceGAV22 EDV19
Last Edited23 Nov 2020
     Sir Henry (?) Knt., 3rd Earl of Lancaster and Leicester was buried at Newark Abbey, Leicestershire, England.10,8

He was born circa 1281 at Grosmont Castle, Monmouthshire, Wales.8,10,5,3 He married Maude de Chaworth, daughter of Sir Patrick de Chaworth Knt. and Isabel de Beauchamp, between 2 March 1296 and 1297;
His 1st wife.10,11,5,12,8,13,2,4,3,14 Sir Henry (?) Knt., 3rd Earl of Lancaster and Leicester married Alice/Alix de Joinville, daughter of Jean de Joinville Sénéchal de Champagne and Alix de Reynel/Risnel heiress of Reynel, after 1322;
His 2nd wife; her 2nd husband.10,8,15,16
Sir Henry (?) Knt., 3rd Earl of Lancaster and Leicester died on 22 September 1345 at Leicester, Leicestershire, England; Genealogy.EU says d. 22 Sep 1348.8,10,5,3
Sir Henry (?) Knt., 3rd Earl of Lancaster and Leicester was buried after 22 September 1345

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1281, England
     DEATH     22 Sep 1345 (aged 63–64), England
     Henry of Lancaster, third Earl of Lancaster, Earl of Leicester and Lord of Beaufort. Of the House of Plantagenet.
     Lord of Monmouth and Threecastles. In right of his wife, of East Garston and North Standen in Hungerford, Berkshire, of Lillingstone Dansey, Buckinghamshire, of Etloe Duchy in Awre and Kempsford, Goucesterhire, of King's Somborne, Hampshire, of Kidwelly, Carmarthenshire, of Ogmore Glamorgan.
     Second son of Edmund "Crouchback' Plantagenet and Blanche d'Artois, Queen of Navarre. Grandson of King Henry III and Eleanor of Provence, Robert I, Count of Artois and Mathilde Brabant.
     Husband of Matilda de Chaworth, daughter of Sir Patrick de Chaworth and Isabel de Beauchamp, daughter of William, Earl of Warwick. They were married after 30 Dec 1291, the grant of her marriage and before 02 March 1297. Mathilda was a wealthy heiress whose marriage granted massive properties to Henry. They produced one son and six daughters:
* Henry, Earl of Derby, Duke of Lancaster
* Blanche, wife of Baron Thomas Wake
* Maud, wife of William de Burgh, Earl of Ulster
* Joan, wife of Baron John de Mowbray
* Isabel, Abbess of Amesbury
* Eleanor, wife of John de Beaumont & Richard FitzAlan Arundel
* Mary, wife of Baron Henry de Percy
     Maud died before 03 Dec 1322, buried at Mottisfort Priory.
     Secondly, the husband of Alice de Joinville, daughter of Jean de Joinville, Seneschal de Champagne and Alice de Risnal, married after 1322.
     Henry received Monmouth and lands in 1297 after his father's death in 1296. He was at the Battle of Falkirk 1298, summoned to Parliament 06 Feb 1299 as Henrico de Lancastre nepoti Regis (kinsman of the King) whereas he became Lord Lancaster. Henry was at the siege of Caerlaverock in 1300, and signed the Baron's letter to Pope Boniface in 1301 as D'n's de Munemue. He helped John le Harper escape from prison, but was pardoned for his part in 1307. Henry and Maud attended the coronation of King Edward II in 1308, was one of the men who forced the king to agree to the Lord Ordainers, and joined the marcher lords against Llywelyn Bren in 1315. His brother, John, died in France, requiring Henry to journey there to obtain his heritage in 1318.
     Henry joined the Marchers against the Despensers in 1320, petitioned the king for, and received, the earldoms of Lancaster and Leicester when his brother, Thomas, was executed for his rebellions against the king by the Despensers in 1322.
     Henry joined Queen Isabella and Roger de Mortimer against Edward II, sent to capture Edward at Neath in South Wales, taking the king to Glamorgan and next to Kenilworth Castle, where he remained in Henry's custody until 04 April 1327.
     Henry was at the coronation of King Edward III 1327, but refused to attend Parliament in 1328, quarreling with the Queen who sent her forces to ravage Henry's Leicester lands, Henry's armed were defeated by Mortimer, and Henry received his lands back again. After Mortimer's demise, Henry and Edward became close again, the King granted Henry 500 marks annually for the maintenance of his estate. Henry was with Edward at the planning of the Scottish invasion in 1335, appointed to the Council of Edward's son, Prince Lionel, Keeper of England, during the King's travels in 1345.
     In 1330 Henry, Earl of Lancaster founded a hospital on this site immediately to the south of the castle just outside the borough walls. This was substantially enlarged by his son, Henry, Duke of Lancaster who increased the size of the hospital and added to it a large and richly endowed chantry college to form the hospital and College of the Annunciation of St Mary in the Newarke. http://digitalbuildingheritage.our.dmu.ac.uk/
     Apparently, Henry went blind about 1330.
     Henry was buried on the north side of the high altar at "Newark Abbey" which is actually the Church of St. Mary of the Annunciation, also known as St. Mary-in-the-Newarke.
     Family Members
     Parents
          Edmund Plantagenet 1245–1296
          Blanche d'Artois 1248–1302
     Spouse
          Matilda de Chaworth Plantagenet 1282–1322
     Siblings
          Thomas Lancaster 1277–1322
     Half Siblings
          Jeanne I de Navarre 1273–1305
     Children
          Isabel de Plantagenet unknown–1349
          Blanche Plantagenet Wake 1305–1380
          Henry of Lancaster 1310–1361
          Matilda of Lancaster Ufford 1310–1377
          Joan Plantagenet Mowbray 1312–1349
          Eleanor Plantagenet FitzAlan de Arundel 1318–1372
          Mary Plantagenet Percy 1320–1362
     BURIAL     Church of the Annunciation of St. Mary, Leicester, Leicester Unitary Authority, Leicestershire, England
     Created by: Anne Shurtleff Stevens
     Added: 23 Mar 2012
     Find a Grave Memorial 87259055.
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "MAUD Chaworth (2 Feb 1282-before 3 Dec 1322, bur Mottisfont Priory). Inquisitions after a writ dated 7 Jul "11 Edw I" following the death of "Patrick de Cadurcis...” name “Maud his daughter aged 1 at the feast of the Purification last is his next heir...Isabel his wife”[1374].
     "m (before 2 Mar 1297) HENRY of Lancaster "Tortcol/Wryneck", son of EDMUND "Crouchback" Earl of Lancaster and Leicester & his second wife Blanche d'Artois [Capet] (Grosmont Castle, Monmouthshire [1281]-Leicester 22 Sep 1345, bur Newark Abbey, Leicester). Lord of Monmouth 1297. Lord Lancaster 1299. Earl of Leicester 1324. Earl of Lancaster 1327."
Med Lands cites:
[1374] Inquisitions Post Mortem, Vol. II, Edward I, 477, p. 288.17


; Per Weis: “Maud de Chaworth by (1); m. bef 2 Mar. 1297 Henry (17-29) "of Lancaster," 3rd Earl of Lancaster, b. 1281, d. 22 Sept. 1345. (CP I:244, CP VIII:396, 400-401).”.18 GAV-22 EDV-19 GKJ-19.

; This is the same person as ”Henry, 3rd Earl of Lancaster” at Wikipedia.19

; Faris (1999) pp. 202-203: "HENRY OF LANCASTER, second son, was born at Grosmont Castle about 1281, and was brother and heir of Thomas, 2nd Earl of Lancaster. He was married for the first time before 2 Mar. 1296/7 to MAUD DE CHAWORTH, daughter and heiress of Patrick de Chaworth, Knt., of Kidwelly and Ogmore, co. Carmarthen (of baronial descent), by Isabel (of Magna Carta Surety descent), daughter of William de Beauchamp, 1st Earl of Warwick (descendant of Charlemagne). She was born in 1282. She died between 19 Feb. 1317 and 3 Dec. 1322, and was buried at Mottisfont Priory, of which she was patron, as heir of William de Briwere, one of the founders. He was married for the second time to ALICE DE JOINVILLE, widow of Jean, Seigneur d'Arcies-sur-Aube et de Chacenay, and daughter of Jean de Joinville, Sénéchal de Champagne, by Alix, daughter and heiress of Gautier, Seigneur de Risnel. He was summoned to Parliament v.p. on 6 Feb. 1298/9 by writ directed Henrico de Lancastre nepoti Regis. He took part in the siege of Carlaverock in July 1300. He was created Earl of Leicester on 29 Mar. 1324, and restored as Earl of Lancaster between 1324 and 1326 succeeding his older brother Thomas. On the Queen's return to England with Roger de Mortimer in September 1326, he joined her party against King Edward II, which led to a general desertion of the King's cause. He was sent in pursuit and captured the King at Neath. He was appointed to take charge of the King, and was responsible for his custody at Kenilworth. About 1330 he became blind. Upon the fall of Mortimer, his close personal relations with the young King were renewed. HENRY OF LANCASTER, Earl of Lancaster, died testate (P.C.C., 104 Beck) aged sixty-four on 22 Sep. 1345, and was buried in Newark Abbey, Leicester.
C.P. 1:244 (1910). CF. 2:61 (1912). CF. 7:156, 377, 396-401 (1929) (Froissart calls him Tortcol [Wryneck]).
Children of Henry of Lancaster, by Maud de Chaworth:
i.     HENRY OF LANCASTER of Grosmont [see next].
ii.     BLANCHE OF LANCASTER, born about 1305, married THOMAS WAKE, 2nd Lord Wake.
iii.     MAUD OF LANCASTER, married WILLIAM DE BURGH [see BURGH 12].
iv.     JOAN OF LANCASTER, married JOHN DE MOWBRAY [see MOWBRAY 11].
v.     ALIANOR OF LANCASTER, married, first, JOHN DE BEAUMONT [see FITZ ALAN 13], second, RICHARD FITZ ALAN [see FITZ ALAN 13].
vi.     MARY OF LANCASTER, married HENRY DE PERCY [see PERCY 12].
vii.     ISABEL OF LANCASTER, married HENRY DE LA DALE.“.20,10 He was 3rd Earl of Lancaster of the 1267 cr.21,22,23

; Per Med Lands:
     "HENRY of Lancaster "Tortcol/Wryneck", son of EDMUND "Crouchback" Earl of Lancaster and Leicester & his second wife Blanche d'Artois [Capet] (Grosmont Castle, Monmouthshire [1281]-Leicester 22 Sep 1345, bur Newark Abbey, Leicester). Known as Lord of Monmouth from 20 Mar 1297. Summoned to Parliament as Lord Lancaster from 6 Feb 1299. He was among the barons who forced King Edward II to agree to the appointment of the Ordainers, the leader of whom was his older brother. Although he joined the confederacy against the Despencers in 1320, he took no part in the rebellion of his brother Thomas. He was restored to the earldom of Leicester 29 Mar 1324. In Sep 1326, he joined the queen's party and Roger Mortimer against the king. He was sent to in pursuit of Edward, who had fled to Wales, captured him at Neath and was responsible for his custody at Kenilworth castle until 4 Apr 1327. Used the title Earl of Lancaster from 26 Oct 1326, restored to that earldom 3 Feb 1327 on his brother's rehabilitation. Appointed Guardian of the young King Edward III on his accession. He went blind some time in 1330. He was a close friend and supporter of Edward III after the fall of Mortimer. He succeeded his brother John as Seigneur de Beaufort et de Nogent. The Chronicon Angliæ records the death of “dominus Henricus comes Lancastre pater Henrici comitis de Derby” and his burial “Leycestriæ in monasterio canonicorum”, dated to 1345 from the context[1014].
     "m (before 2 Mar 1297) MAUD Chaworth, daughter and heiress of PATRICK de Chaworth of Kidwelly & his wife Isabel Beauchamp (2 Feb 1282-before 3 Dec 1322, bur Mottisfont Priory). Inquisitions after a writ dated 7 Jul "11 Edw I" following the death of "Patrick de Cadurcis...” name “Maud his daughter aged 1 at the feast of the Purification last is his next heir...Isabel his wife”[1015]."
Med Lands cites:
[1014] Chronicon Angliæ 1328-1388 (1874), p. 20.
[1015] Inquisitions Post Mortem, Vol. II, Edward I, 477, p. 288.


; Per Genealogy.EU (Anjou 3): “D2. Henry, 3rd Earl of Lancaster & Leicester, *Grosmont Castle ca 1281, +Leicester 22.9.1348, bur Newark Abbey, Leicester; 1m: before 2.3.1297 Maud de Chaworth (*1282 +after 19.2.1317/22); 2m: after 1322 Alix de Joinville (+after 19.4.1336)”.24

; Per Genealogy.EU (Anjou 3): “D2. Henry, 3rd Earl of Lancaster & Leicester, *Grosmont Castle ca 1281, +Leicester 22.9.1348, bur Newark Abbey, Leicester; 1m: before 2.3.1297 Maud de Chaworth (*1282 +after 19.2.1317/22); 2m: after 1322 Alix de Joinville (+after 19.4.1336)”.1

; Per Weis: "Henry, "of Lancaster," 3rd Earl of Lancaster and Leicester, b. 1281, d. 22 Sept. 1345, but. Newark Abbey, co. Leics; m. (1) bef 2 Mar. 1297, Maud de Chaworth (72-32), b. 1282, d. bef. 3 Dec. 1322; m. (2) Alix de Geneville (71A-31) d. 19 Apr. 1336, wid. of Jean d'Arcis, d. 1307, dau. of John de Geneville (71A-30), Seneschal of Champagne, son of Simon de Joinville (71A-29). (CP I:244, II:61, VII:156, 396-401; ES VII/6).”.16
; Per Weis: "Allix de Geneville, by (2), d. 19 Apr. 1336; m. (1) Jean d'Arcis, d. 1307; m. (2) as 2nd wife, Henry (17-29), "of Lancaster," 3rd Earl of Lancaster. IESI VII/6).”.15

Family 1

Child

Family 2

Maude de Chaworth b. 2 Feb 1282, d. bt 4 Aug 1320 - 3 Dec 1322
Children

Family 3

Alice/Alix de Joinville d. 19 Apr 1336

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Anjou 3 page (The House of Anjou): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/anjou/anjou3.html
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  4. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Navarre 6ii: p. 536.
  5. [S1426] Jiri Louda (Tables) and Michael Maclagan (text), Lines of Succession: Heraldry of the Royal Families of Europe (NY: Barnes & Noble Books, 2002), Table 4: England - Last Plantagenets. Hereinafter cited as Louda & Maclagan [2002] Lines of Succession.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Edmund 'Crouchback': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005190&tree=LEO
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  11. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 19-29, p. 23. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  12. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Chaworth - Baron Chaworth, p. 111. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  13. [S2035] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 1 Feb 2006: "The Kinsmen of Sir Hugh de Hastings (d. 1347) and the Elsing Brass"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 1 Feb 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 1 Feb 2006."
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud de Chaworth: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005196&tree=LEO
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  16. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed, 17-29, pp. 25-26.
  17. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntac.htm#MaudChaworthdied1322
  18. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed, Line 72-32, p. 80.
  19. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry,_3rd_Earl_of_Lancaster. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  20. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  21. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 202.
  22. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Norfolk Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
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  26. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Burgh 8: p. 168.
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Sarah de Beauchamp1

F, #4803, b. circa 1252, d. after July 1317
FatherWilliam III de Beauchamp 5th Baron Beauchamp b. 1215, d. bt 7 Jan 1268 - 21 Apr 1268
MotherIsabel Mauduit b. c 1217, d. a 7 Jan 1268
ReferenceEDV21
Last Edited6 Oct 2020
     Sarah de Beauchamp was born circa 1252; Utz #2 29 May 2005 says b. ca 1255.2,3 She married Richard Talbot Lord of Eccleswall, son of Gilbert Talbot and Gwenthlian ferch Rhys Mechyll, after 7 January 1268.2,4,5,3
Sarah de Beauchamp died after July 1317.6,3
     ; weis 84a-29.

EDV-21 GKJ-22.8

Family

Richard Talbot Lord of Eccleswall b. c 1250, d. b 3 Sep 1306
Children

Citations

  1. [S1720] David Utz, "Utz email #2 29 May 2005 "Aline de Gai's descents to Robert Abell"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 May 2005, 4 Richard Talbot b: Abt. 1250 d: Abt. 03 September 1306
    .... +Sarah de Beauchamp b: Abt. 1255 m: Aft. 07 January 1268/69 d: Aft. July 1317. Hereinafter cited as "Utz email #2 29 May 2005."
  2. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 16, de BEAUCHAMP 8:v. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  3. [S1720] David Utz, "Utz email #2 29 May 2005," e-mail to e-mail address, 29 May 2005.
  4. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 238, TALBOT 4:i.
  5. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Shrewsbury and Waterford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  6. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 84A-29, p. 84. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  7. [S599] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 28 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 14, Ed. 1, family # 1829 (n.p.: Release date: October 20, 1997, unknown publish date).
  8. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  9. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I41593

Henri I (?) King of France1,2

M, #4804, b. 1006, d. 4 August 1060
FatherRobert II "The Pious/le Pieux" (?) King of France3,4,1,5,6 b. 27 Mar 972, d. 20 Jul 1031
MotherConstance (?) d'Arles, Queen of France3,4,1,7,8,9 b. c 986, d. 25 Jul 1032
ReferenceGAV27 EDV25
Last Edited25 Oct 2020
     Henri I (?) King of France was born in 1006 at Reims, Departement de la Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France; Louda and Maclagan say b. 1008; Genealogics says b. bef 17 May 1008; Wikipedia says b 4 May 1008.1,10,4,11,12 He and Mathilde (?) were engaged before 1034;
Per Wikipedia: "Henry I was betrothed to Matilda, the daughter of Conrad II, Holy Roman Emperor, but she died prematurely in 1034."1,12 Henri I (?) King of France married Matilda (?) de Frise (de Friesland), daughter of Liudolf von Braunschweig Markgraf in Friesland, Graf im Derlingau and Gertrud von Egisheim, in 1043; his 2nd wife.1,11,12 Henri I (?) King of France married Anna Agnesa Yaroslavna (?) Grand Duchess of Kiev, Regent of France, daughter of Yaroslav I Vladimirovich "Mudriy/The Wise" (?) Grand Duke of Kiev and Ingegarde (Ingeborg) Olafsdottir (?) Princess of Sweden, on 19 May 1051 at Reims, Departement de la Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France (now); [quote] Date of his 3rd marriage with Anna of Kiev is uncertain:
29.1.1044
see http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedlkup/n=royal?royal02457
29.1.1050
see http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/dwidad/capet2.html#3 (by Richard W. Field)
14.5.1051
see http://www.multimania.com/behgnam/capet3.htm
19.5.1051
see http://geneweb.inria.fr/roglo?lang=en;i=21361
or http://www.ishipress.com/royalfam/pafg55.htm#1871
[end quote]
from Genealogy.EU at http://genealogy.euweb.cz/note/henri1fr.html
Leo van de Pas says m. 19 May 1051.10,13,4,14,11,12,15
Henri I (?) King of France died on 4 August 1060 at Vitry-En-Brie, Departement du Loiret, Centre, France.10,4,1,12,11,16
Henri I (?) King of France was buried after 4 August 1060 at Basilique Saint-Denis, Saint-Denis, Departement de Seine-Saint-Denis, Île-de-France, France,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     4 May 1008, Reims, Departement de la Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France
     DEATH     4 Aug 1060 (aged 52), Vitry-aux-Loges, Departement du Loiret, Centre, France
     Frankish Monarch. A member of the House of Capet, he reigned as King of the Franks from 1031 to 1060. He was the son of King Robert II and Constance of Arles.
     Family Members
     Parents
          Robert II 972–1031
          Constance d'Arles unknown–1032
     Spouses
          Mathilde of Franconia 1026–1034
          Anna Agnesa Yaroslavna 1036–1075
     Siblings
          Advisa Capet 1003–1063
          Hugues de France 1007–1025
          Adela Capet 1009–1079
          Robert de Bourgogne 1011–1076
          Constance Capet De Dammartin 1014–1052
     Children
          Philip I of France 1052–1108
          Hugues de France 1057–1102
     BURIAL     Saint Denis Basilique, Saint-Denis, Departement de Seine-Saint-Denis, Île-de-France, France
     Maintained by: Find A Grave
     Added: 2 Apr 2001
     Find A Grave Memorial 21076.17,1,16
     GAV-27 EDV-25 GKJ-26.

; This is the same person as ”Henry I of France” at Wikipedia and as ”Henri Ier (roi des Francs)” at Wikipédia (FR).12,18

; Per Genealogics:
     "Son of Robert II, king of France and Constance de Provence, Henri 's reign as king of France from 1031 until 1060 was marked by struggles against rebellious vassals. Henri was anointed king at Reims in 1026 in his father's lifetime, following the death of his elder brother Hugues. His mother, however, favoured his younger brother Robert for the throne, and civil war broke out on King Robert II's death in 1031. The younger Robert was given Burgundy in 1032, after Henri had sought refuge with Robert, duke of Normandy.
     "From 1033 to 1043 Henri struggled with his noble vassals, notably Eudes of Blois and his brother Robert. In 1055, as the result of an agreement made by Robert II, the county of Sens came to the crown as the sole territorial gain of Henri's reign.
     "Henri helped William, duke of Normandy (the future William I of England), Robert's successor as duke of Normandy, to quell his rebellious vassals at the Battle of Val-aux-Dunes in 1047, but he was thereafter usually at war with him, a notable defeat for the king being at Varaville in 1058.
     "Henri tried to resist papal interference, but could not prevent Pope Leo IX from holding a council at Reims in 1049. Philippe, eldest son of Henri's marriage to Anna of Kiev, was crowned in 1059. Henri died on 4 August 1060 in Vitry-en-Brie."11

Reference: Genealogics Cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, Band II, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. page 13.
2. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, Fürstliche Häuser . 1961.
3. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America bef.1700, 7th Edition, 1992, Weis, Frederick Lewis. 57.19


; Per Weis: “Henri I (101-22), b. 1008, d. Vitry-en-Brie 4 Aug. 1060, bur. St. Denis, King of France 1031-1060, Count of Paris; m. (3) 20 Jan. 1044/5 Anne of Kieb (241-6), b. 1036, d. aft 1075, dau. of Iaroslave I (241-5), Grand Prince of Kiev, d. 1054, and Ingigerd, dau. of Olav II Skotkonung, King of Sweded. (CP X:351, N. de Baumgarten, Orientalia Christiana (rome, 1927); ES, cit.; Moriarty, cit.).”.2

; Per Genealogy.EU: "King HENRI I of France (1031-60) cr 1025, Duc de Bourgogne (ca 1017-60), *Reims IV.1008, +Vitry-en-Brie 4.8.1060, bur St.Denis; 1m: Matilda (+1034) dau.of Emperor Konrad II; 2m: 1043 Matilda de Frise (+1044) dau.of Mgve Liudolf of Friesland; 3m: Reims 29.1.1044/29.1.1050 (NOTE) Pss Anna Jaroslavna of Kiev (*1024 +1076.)1"

; Per Weis: “Anne (Anna) of Kiev, d. aft 1075; m. 20 Jan. 10404(/5?), Henry I (53-22, 101-22), King of France, d. 1060 (Moriarty, The Planragenet Ancestry, pp. 51, 53; ES II/11).”.20 He was King of France between 1031 and 1060.21,10,4,1

; Per Enc. of World History: "HENRY I, an active, brave, indefatigable ruler whose reign nevertheless marked the lowest ebb of the Capetian fortunes. The rebellion of his brother Robert, supported by Eudes, count of Chartres and Troyes, was put down with the aid of the duke of Normandy, and Robert was pacified by the grant of the duchy of Burgundy (which continued in his family until 1361). Henry supported the duke of Normandy (1047), but led a coalition against him two years later and was defeated. The prévôts were introduced to administer justice and taxation in the royal lands. The kingdom of Burgundy passed (1032) to the empire.“.22

Family 1

Mathilde (?) b. 1027, d. Jan 1034

Family 2

Matilda (?) de Frise (de Friesland) b. 1027, d. 1044

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet4.html
  2. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), Line 53-22, p. 62. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
  3. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 53-22, p. 57. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  4. [S1426] Jiri Louda (Tables) and Michael Maclagan (text), Lines of Succession: Heraldry of the Royal Families of Europe (NY: Barnes & Noble Books, 2002), Table 61: France - Early Capetian Kings. Hereinafter cited as Louda & Maclagan [2002] Lines of Succession.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert II 'le Pieux': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00007643&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  6. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Robert II le Pieux (the Pious): https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/rober102.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  7. [S1936] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 25 Aug 2005: "Robert II of France to Maud de Bernake (was CP Addition:..)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 25 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 25 Aug 2005."
  8. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAPET.htm#RobertIIdied1031B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  9. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Constance of Arles: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/const000.htm
  10. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, lin 53-22, p. 57.
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henri I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00007645&tree=LEOi
  12. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_I_of_France. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  13. [S752] Marcellus Donald Alexander R. von Redlich, compiler, Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. I (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1941 (1988 reprint)), p. 63. Hereinafter cited as von Redlich [1941] Charlemagne Desc. vol I.
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Héribert IV/VI de Vermandois Comte de Vermandois et de Valois1,2,3,4,5

M, #4805, b. circa 1032, d. after 30 September 1080
FatherOtho (Eudes Or Otto) (?) Comte de Vermandois et de Valois2,3,4 b. bt 985 - 990, d. 25 May 1045
MotherParvie (Pavie) (?)2,3,4 b. 990
ReferenceGAV26 EDV25
Last Edited22 Jul 2020
     Héribert IV/VI de Vermandois Comte de Vermandois et de Valois was born circa 1032; Genealogy.EU (Carolin 1 page) says b. 1028.3,2,4 He married Adèle/Adela/Adelais de Valois Comtesse de Valois, daughter of Raoul III/IV 'le Grand' (?) Comte de Valois de Crépy et de Vexin and Aelis/Adele (?) de Bar-sur-Aube, circa 1059.6,2,3,7,8,4,9
Héribert IV/VI de Vermandois Comte de Vermandois et de Valois died after 30 September 1080.3,2,4
     ; Per Genealogics:
     "Herbert IV was born about 1032, the son of Otho, comte de Vermandois et de Valois, and his wife Pavie. He succeeded his father in 1045. About 1060 he married Adèle, comtesse de Valois, daughter of Raoul III de Valois, comte de Valois, Vexin, Crépy et Bar-sur-Aube, and Aelis, comtesse de Bar-sur-Aube. They had a son Otho who was declared to be feeble-minded and was disinherited by his father, and a daughter Adélaïde who became her father's heiress and would have progeny by both her husbands Hugues I Magnus, comte de Vermandois et de Valois, and Renaud, comte de Clermont-en-Beauvaisis.
     "Heribert was present at the coronation of Philippe I, king of France, in 1077. He inherited a portion of the fiefs of his brother-in-law Simon, comte d'Amiens, Valois, Montdidier et Bar-sur-Aube, who died in Rome on 30 September 1080.
     "Heribert died about 1080, but after 30 September that year."4

; Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III/1 55.
2. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 2.
3. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to Amercia bef.1700 7th Edition, Frederick Lewis Weis, Reference: 51.4


; Per Wikipédia Fr.:
     "Herbert IV de Vermandois, né vers 1032, mort vers 1080, fut comte de Vermandois de 1045 à 1080 et comte de Valois de 1077 à 1080.
Biographie
     "Herbert IV était fils d'Otton de Vermandois, comte de Vermandois, et de Pavie. Il succèda à son père en 1045. Il assista au du sacre du roi Philippe Ier et hérita en 1077 d'une partie des fiefs de son beau-frère Simon de Valois.
     "Il avait épousé vers 1059 Adélaïde, fille de Raoul IV, comte de Vexin, de Valois et d'Amiens. Ils ont eurent comme enfants :
** Adélaïde (v. 1062 † 1122), mariée vers 1080 à Hugues Ier le Grand (v.1057 † 1102), comte de Vermandois et de Valois, fils d'Henri Ier, roi de France et d'Anne de Kiev, puis en 1103 à Renaud, comte de Clermont, fils de Hugues et de Marguerite de Roucy.
** Eudes, dit l'insensé (v. 1064 - mort après 1085) qui fut déshérité par son père.

Source
** Christian Settipani, La Préhistoire des Capétiens (Nouvelle histoire généalogique de l'auguste maison de France, vol. 1), Villeneuve-d'Ascq, éd. Patrick van Kerrebrouck, 1993, 545 p. (ISBN 978-2-95015-093-6)
Articles connexes
** Histoire de la Picardie: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histoire_de_la_Picardie
** Liste des comtes de Vermandois: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_comtes_de_Vermandois
** Vermandois: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermandois
Liens externes
** Comtes de Vermandois [archive]: http://fjaunais.free.fr/h0vermandois.htm
** Le Vermandois [archive]: https://royaumeurope.wordpress.com/carolingiens/italie/vermandois/."10

; Per Wikipedia:
     "Herbert IV of Vermandois (ca. July 20, 1028/1032–February 23, 1080) or Herbert V was French noble, from Herbertien dynasty. Count of Vermandois, was the son of Otto of Vermandois and Parvie (Pavia or Patia)[1], descendant of Bernard of Italy, a grandson of Charlemagne.
Family and children
     "He married Adele of Valois, daughter of Ralph IV of Valois and Adele of Bar-sur-Aube, and had four children:
** Adelaide, Countess of Vermandois, (b. Circa 1062 - d. September 23, 1120) - married first to Hugh Magnus,[2] son of Henry I of France and younger brother of Philip I of France, and second to Renaud II, Count of Clermont-Beauvaisis. Adelaide had numerous children by both her husbands.
** Odo I, Count of Vermandois[citation needed] (b. circa 1064 - d. after 1085)
** Gerard (b. 1066 - d. ?)

     "Odo inherited the countships of Vermandois and Valois upon his father's death.
References
1. Régine Le Jan, Famille et pouvoir dans le monde franc (VIIe-Xe siècle), (Publications de la Sorbonne, 2003), 322n, 535.
2. Suger, The Deeds of Louis the Fat, transl. Richard C. Cusimano and John Moorhead, (Catholic University of America Press, 1992), 191-192 note19."11 GAV-26 EDV-25 GKJ-26.

Reference: Weis [1992:51] 50-22.2 Héribert IV/VI de Vermandois Comte de Vermandois et de Valois was also known as Herbert IV Comte de Valois.12

; Per Med Lands:
     "HERIBERT [VI] ([1032]-[1080]). He succeeded his father in 1045 as Comte de Vermandois. “Heribertus...Viromanduorum comes” confirmed donations to Saint-Prix made by “prædecessor noster Albertus” by charter dated 1076, subscribed by “...Odonis vicecomitis...Odonis fratris comitis...Roberti Peronensis, Ivonis Hamensis, Ivonis Nigellensis, Hugonis Calniacensis, Odonis filii Roberti Peronensis...”[282]. He succeeded as Comte de Valois in 1077, by right of his wife. "Herbertus Vermandensium et Vadascorum comes" donated property to the church of Saint-Quentin and others, with the consent of "Alide coniugis meæ", by charter dated 1059 (date unlikely to be correct, considering that Héribert did not succeed as Comte de Valois until 1077)[283].
     "m ([1059 or before]) ADELAIS de Valois, daughter of RAOUL [III] Comte de Valois, de Crépy et de Vitry & his first wife Aelis de Bar-sur-Aube (-after 1077). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Symonem et filiam…Adala" children of "comitis Veromandie [error for Valois] Rodolfi" and his wife Adela[284]. Her marriage is confirmed by an undated charter, quoted by Acta Sanctorum, under which "Rodulfus comes" donated property to Saint-Rémy, confirmed by "Symonem filium meum, duos quoque generos meos, quos de filiabus meis habeo, id est Heribertum comitem et juvenem…Bartholomeum"[285]. Ctss de Valois. "Herbertus Vermandensium et Vadascorum comes" donated property to the church of Saint-Quentin and others, with the consent of "Alide coniugis meæ", by charter dated 1059 (date unlikely to be correct, considering that Héribert did not succeed as Comte de Valois until 1077)[286]."
Med Lands cites:
[282] Hémeré (1643), Regestum veterum charta, p. 37.
[283] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars II, XXII, p. 303.
[284] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1062, MGH SS XXIII, p. 793.
[285] Acta Sanctorum, September VIII, p. 725.
[286] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars II, XXII, p. 303.13


; Per Racines et Histoire (p. 7): "1) Adèle (alias Hildebrande) °~1032/43 + 1080
     ép. Her(i)bert IV de Vermandois ° 1028 + 1078/80"
Per Racines et Histoire (p. 10): "Héribert IV de Vermandois ° 1032 + 1080 comte de Vermandois (1045), comte de Valois (1077, par droit de sa femme)
     ép.1060 Adelaïs de Valois comtesse de Valois (fille de Raoul III, comte de Valois, Crépy et de Vitry, et d’Aélis (Adela) de Bar-sur-Aube.)5 " He was Comte de Vermandois between 1045 and 1080.10 He was Comte de Valois between 1077 and 1080.10

Citations

  1. [S752] Marcellus Donald Alexander R. von Redlich, compiler, Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. I (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1941 (1988 reprint)), p. 120. Hereinafter cited as von Redlich [1941] Charlemagne Desc. vol I.
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    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 50-22, p. 51. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
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  11. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_IV,_Count_of_Vermandois. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
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Adèle/Adela/Adelais de Valois Comtesse de Valois1,2,3,4,5,6

F, #4806, b. 1032, d. after 1077
FatherRaoul III/IV 'le Grand' (?) Comte de Valois de Crépy et de Vexin1,4,2,7 b. c 1015, d. 23 Sep 1074
MotherAelis/Adele (?) de Bar-sur-Aube4,8 b. bt 1020 - 1025, d. 11 Sep 1053
ReferenceGAV26 EDV25
Last Edited22 Jul 2020
     Adèle/Adela/Adelais de Valois Comtesse de Valois was born in 1032.9 She married Héribert IV/VI de Vermandois Comte de Vermandois et de Valois, son of Otho (Eudes Or Otto) (?) Comte de Vermandois et de Valois and Parvie (Pavie) (?), circa 1059.10,1,3,2,11,12,5
Adèle/Adela/Adelais de Valois Comtesse de Valois died after 1077.5
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "HERIBERT [VI] ([1032]-[1080]). He succeeded his father in 1045 as Comte de Vermandois. “Heribertus...Viromanduorum comes” confirmed donations to Saint-Prix made by “prædecessor noster Albertus” by charter dated 1076, subscribed by “...Odonis vicecomitis...Odonis fratris comitis...Roberti Peronensis, Ivonis Hamensis, Ivonis Nigellensis, Hugonis Calniacensis, Odonis filii Roberti Peronensis...”[282]. He succeeded as Comte de Valois in 1077, by right of his wife. "Herbertus Vermandensium et Vadascorum comes" donated property to the church of Saint-Quentin and others, with the consent of "Alide coniugis meæ", by charter dated 1059 (date unlikely to be correct, considering that Héribert did not succeed as Comte de Valois until 1077)[283].
     "m ([1059 or before]) ADELAIS de Valois, daughter of RAOUL [III] Comte de Valois, de Crépy et de Vitry & his first wife Aelis de Bar-sur-Aube (-after 1077). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Symonem et filiam…Adala" children of "comitis Veromandie [error for Valois] Rodolfi" and his wife Adela[284]. Her marriage is confirmed by an undated charter, quoted by Acta Sanctorum, under which "Rodulfus comes" donated property to Saint-Rémy, confirmed by "Symonem filium meum, duos quoque generos meos, quos de filiabus meis habeo, id est Heribertum comitem et juvenem…Bartholomeum"[285]. Ctss de Valois. "Herbertus Vermandensium et Vadascorum comes" donated property to the church of Saint-Quentin and others, with the consent of "Alide coniugis meæ", by charter dated 1059 (date unlikely to be correct, considering that Héribert did not succeed as Comte de Valois until 1077)[286]."
Med Lands cites:
[282] Hémeré (1643), Regestum veterum charta, p. 37.
[283] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars II, XXII, p. 303.
[284] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1062, MGH SS XXIII, p. 793.
[285] Acta Sanctorum, September VIII, p. 725.
[286] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars II, XXII, p. 303.13


Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 112.
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 657.11


; Per Med Lands:
     "ADELAIS de Valois (-after 1077). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Symonem et filiam…Adala" as children of "comitis Veromandie [error for Valois] Rodolfi" and his wife Adela[36]. Her marriage is confirmed by an undated charter, quoted by Acta Sanctorum, under which "Rodulfus comes" donated property to Saint-Rémy, confirmed by "Symonem filium meum, duos quoque generos meos, quos de filiabus meis habeo, id est Heribertum comitem et juvenem…Bartholomeum"[37]. Ctss de Valois. "Herbertus Vermandensium et Vadascorum comes" donated property to the church of Saint-Quentin and others, with the consent of "Alide coniugis meæ", by charter dated 1059 (date unlikely to be correct, considering that Héribert did not succeed as Comte de Valois until 1077)[38].
     "m ([1059 or before]) HERIBERT [VI] Comte de Vermandois, son of EUDES Comte de Vermandois & his wife Pavia --- ([1032]-[1080])."
Med Lands cites:
[36] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1062, MGH SS XXIII, p. 793.
[37] Acta Sanctorum, September VIII, p. 725.
[38] Foppens (1734), Tome III, Pars II, XXII, p. 303.5


; Per Wikipedia:
     "Adele of Valois was a daughter of Ralph IV of Valois and Adele of Bar-sur-Aube.[1]
     "She married firstly Herbert IV, Count of Vermandois, and they had:
1. Adelaide, Countess of Vermandois, married to Hugh of Vermandois
2. Odo I, Count of Vermandois

     "She was also the second wife of Theobald III, Count of Blois,[2] and they had:
1. Philip, who became bishop of Châlons-sur-Marne[3]
2. Odo, who inherited possessions in Champagne (Troyes). He died in 1093, leaving the possessions to his brother Hugh.
3. Hugh,[3] who became the first to be called count of Champagne.
4. Hawise, also known as Hawise of Guingamp, wife of Stephen, Count of Tréguier.[4]

Notes
1. Bautier 1985, p. 554.
2. Evergates 2007, p. 248.
3. Evergates 2007, p. 268.
4. Morin 2010, p. 184.
References
** Evergates, Theodore (2007). The Aristocracy in the Count of Champagne, 1100-1300. University of Pennsylvania Press.
** Bautier, Robert-Henri (1985). "Anne de Kiev, Reine de France, et la Politique Royale au XIe Siècle: Étude Critique de la Documentation". Revue des Études Slaves (in French). 57 (4): 539–564.
** Morin, Stéphane (2010). Trégor, Goëlo, Penthièvre. Le pouvoir des Comtes de Bretagne du XIIe au XIIIe siècle. Presses Universitaires de Rennes."14 GAV-26 EDV-25 GKJ-26. Adèle/Adela/Adelais de Valois Comtesse de Valois was also known as Adelaïs/Adélaïde de Valois Comtesse de Valois.15,16

Reference: Weis [1992:51] 50-22.1

; Per Racines et Histoire (p. 7): "1) Adèle (alias Hildebrande) °~1032/43 + 1080
     ép. Her(i)bert IV de Vermandois ° 1028 + 1078/80"
Per Racines et Histoire (p. 10): "Héribert IV de Vermandois ° 1032 + 1080 comte de Vermandois (1045), comte de Valois (1077, par droit de sa femme)
     ép.1060 Adelaïs de Valois comtesse de Valois (fille de Raoul III, comte de Valois, Crépy et de Vitry, et d’Aélis (Adela) de Bar-sur-Aube.)15 "

; Per Racines et Histoire (Vermandois...): "Raoul III «Le Grand» de Valois °~1010/15 + 08/09/1074 (Mondidier) comte de Crépy et Valois, puis d’Amiens, Pontoise, Mantes et Chaumont (Vexin, ~1063)
     ép. 1) Adèle de Bar-sur-Aube (alias de Vitry) ° 1000/10 + 1053 (fille de Nocher III ; veuve de Renaud de Joigny)
     ép. 2) Aliénor dite «Haquenez» (répudiée)
     ép. 3) Anna Yaroslavna de Kiev ° 1024 + un 5/09 entre 1075 & 1079 (fille de Yaroslav 1er Vladimirovitch ; veuve du Roi Henri 1er)"
Per Racines et Histoire (Nanteuil-Le-Haudouin): "Raoul III «Le Grand» de Valois + 23/02 ou 08/09/1074 (Péronne) comte de Valois (1030/35), comte d’Amiens et du Vexin (~1063, y succède à son cousin Gauthier III), Crépy, Mantes et Chaumont, tient tête à Henri 1er, Roi de France, à la mort d’Eudes II, comte de Blois (1038), X en Beauvaisis (1041), 1er conseiller du Conseil Royal - d’une grande puissance et influence, excommunié suite au scandale de son 3° mariage (donations à Montérendier, à Molesme)
     ép. 1) Aelis de Bar (-sur-Aube, de Champagne) + 11/09/1053 (fille et héritière de Nocher III, comte de Bar-sur-Aube et de Vitry-en-Perthois ; veuve de 1) Renaud de Semur-en-Brionnais ; de 2) Renaud, comte de Joigny ; et 3) Roger 1er, avoué de Vignory)
     ép. 2) (répud. 1060) Alienor «Haquenez», héritière de Montdidier et de Péronne
     ép. 3) 1061 Anna Yaroslavna de Kiev (fille de Yaroslav 1er Vladimirovitch «Moudriy» («Le Sage»), Grand-Prince de Kiev, et de Ingigerd Olafsdottir de Suède ;
veuve d’Henri 1er, Roi de France.)17,18"

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  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adèle: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00050026&tree=LEO
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Heribert IV: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00050025&tree=LEO
  13. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#HeribertIVdied1080
  14. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adele_of_Valois. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  15. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Vermandois, Valois & Vexin, pp. 7, 10: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Vermandois-Valois-Vexin.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  16. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Adélaïde de Valois: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad%C3%A9la%C3%AFde_de_Valois. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  17. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Vermandois, Valois & Vexin, p. 7: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Vermandois-Valois-Vexin.pdf
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  19. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 50-23, pp. 51-52.
  20. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adélaïde: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00050024&tree=LEO
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Hildouin IV de Montdidier comte de Montdidier, seigneur de Ramerupt, d’Arcis et de Breteuil, comte de Roucy1,2,3,4,5,6,7

M, #4807, b. circa 1010, d. circa 1063
FatherHerloin/Hilduin III de Montdidier seigneur de Ramerupt et de Montdidier8,3,9,10,6,7 b. c 985, d. c 1037
MotherHersende (?)6
ReferenceGAV25 EDV25
Last Edited27 Nov 2020
     Hildouin IV de Montdidier comte de Montdidier, seigneur de Ramerupt, d’Arcis et de Breteuil, comte de Roucy was born circa 1010 at Montdidier, Somme, France.5,11 He married Adele (Adelix) de Roucy, daughter of Ebles I “Fortis” de Roucy Count of Rheims & Roucy and Beatrix (?) Countess of Hainaut, in 1031.1,12,9,5,11,13,7,14
Hildouin IV de Montdidier comte de Montdidier, seigneur de Ramerupt, d’Arcis et de Breteuil, comte de Roucy died circa 1063.1,3,5,11
     ; Per Genealogics:
     “Hildouin was the son of Hilduin III, sire de Ramerupt, comes. About 1031 he married Adèle (Alice) de Roucy, heiress of Roucy, daughter of Ebles I, comte de Roucy, and Beatrice de Hainault. They had ten children of whom two sons and four daughters would have progeny, including Felicie who married Sancho I, king of Aragón and Navarre. Through his marriage Hildouin greatly increased the status of his line within the local nobility. His wife, through her mother, was a descendant of the counts of Hainault and the Capetian kings. However consanguinity between Adèle's parents had led to the annulment of their marriage, and her father Ebles entered holy orders and became bishop of Reims.
     “Hildouin died in 1063.”.12 GAV-25 EDV-25 GKJ-26.

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:676.
2. The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H. 184.
3. Biogr. details drawn from Wikipedia . French version.12


; This is the same person as ”Hilduin IV, Count of Montdidier” at Wikipedia and as ”Hilduin IV de Montdidier” at Wikipédia (FR).15,16

; Per Weis: “Hilduin III (or IV) de Rameru, b. abt. 1010, d. 1063, Count of Montdidier, Lord of Rameru 1061, Count of Roucy 1032; m. abt. 1031 Adele de Roucy (151-22, 246-22), d. 1062. (seversmith, 2,542-2,543, 2,546; ES III.4/676*677).”.5

; Per Med Lands:
     "HILDUIN [IV] de Ramerupt, son of HILDUIN [III] Seigneur de Ramerupt & his wife --- (-[1063]). Robert II King of France confirmed the donation of "Manasses comes" to Chartres Notre-Dame by charter dated 4 Feb 1031, signed by "…Manasses comitis, Hilduini comitis fratris eius, filiorum eius Manassis et Hilduini, Burcardo de Montemorenciaco, Evrardi filii Hilduini de Britoglio, Amalrici de Monteforti, Milonis de Caprosa…"[627]. "…Hilduinus comes et Hilduinus filius eius…" subscribed the charter dated 1032 under which "Odo comes palatinus Francorum regis" founded Epernay abbey[628]. Comte [de Montdidier]. Seigneur de Ramerupt. "Vir nobilis Hugo Bardul" donated property to Montiérender by charter dated [1061/62 or before], subscribed by "Teobaldi comitis, Hilduini comitis, Burdini de Belfort, Manasse filii eius"[629]. Hermann’s Miracles of Laon Sainte-Marie records that Philippe I King of France sent "comitem Hilduinum cum domno Helinando Laudunensi Episcopo" as ambassadors to Rome, undated[630].
     "m ADELAIDE de Roucy, daughter of EBLES Comte de Roucy & his wife Beatrix de Hainaut ([1015/20]-1062). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Aelidam et Hadewidem" as the two daughters of "Ebalus de Roceio " & his wife, specifying that "omnes comites de Roceio et de Arceis sive de Ramerupt vel de Brena super Albam" descended from Adelaide[631]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Adelidem et Hadevidem" as the two daughters of "Ebalus de Roceio " and his wife Beatrix, specifying that "secunda filia…soror…Hadevidis nupsit Helduino comiti de Ramerut[632]. The Histoire de la restauration de l’Eglise de Laon records the election of “domnum Bartholomeum Remensis ecclesiæ B. Mariæ canonicum et thesaurarium” as bishop of Laon and recites his ancestry: “Hilduinus...comes Rociensis avus eius” married “Adeladem germanam domni Manassæ Remorum archiepiscopi” and names their children “Ebalum comitem de Roci et Andream comitem de Rameruch patrem Eabli Cathaulensis episcopi, septemque filias...”[633]. Du Chesne interprets this passage as meaning that the wife of Hilduin [IV] was the daughter of Manassès “le Chauve” Vidame de Reims, who was the father of Archbishop Manassès who died in 1115 (see above in the present document)[634]. However, he has confused the two archbishops of Reims named Manassès: Hilduin’s wife was the half-sister of the one whose death is recorded in 1085. Her birth date is estimated from her mother's estimated birth date and the fact that Adelaide herself gave birth to her youngest child in [1060]."
Med Lands cites:
[627] Chartres Notre-Dame, Tome I, XIII, p. 87.
[628] Arbois de Jubainville, Tome I, XXXV, p. 468.
[629] Montiérender 42, p. 169.
[630] Ex Hermanni Laudunensis Monacii de Miraculis B. Mariæ Laudunensis, RHGF XII, p. 268.
[631] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1031, MGH SS XXIII, p. 783.
[632] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 10 and 11, MGH SS XIII, p. 254.
[633] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 18.
[634] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 20 & 21.7


; Per Racines et Histoire (de Boubers): “Herloin ou Hilduin IV comte de Montdidier, seigneur de Ramerupt d’Arcis et de Breteuil, comte de Roucy par mariage :
     ép. Alix de Roucy”.6

; Per Weis: “Adele de Roucy, b. abt. 1014, d. 1062; m. 1031, Hilduin III (or IV) de Rameru (151A-22), b. abt. 1010, d. 1063, Count of Montdidier & Roucy, seigneur of Rameru. (Seversmith, 2, 242, 2, 247; Brandenburg, p. 78. Gen. 19-22; ES III.4/675A, 676). (See: GenI. (n.s.) X (1893); 85, for Montdidier).”.11

; Per Med Lands:
     "ADELAIDE de Roucy ([1015/20]-1062). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Aelidam et Hadewidem" as the two daughters of "Ebalus de Roceio" & his wife, specifying that "omnes comites de Roceio et de Arceis sive de Ramerupt vel de Brena super Albam" descended from Adelaide[397]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Adelidem et Hadevidem" as the two daughters of "Ebalus de Roceio" and his wife Beatrix, specifying that "secunda filia…soror…Hadevidis nupsit Helduino comiti de Ramerut[398]. The Histoire de la restauration de l’Eglise de Laon records the election of “domnum Bartholomeum Remensis ecclesiæ B. Mariæ canonicum et thesaurarium” as bishop of Laon and recites his ancestry: “Hilduinus...comes Rociensis avus eius” married “Adeladem germanam domni Manassæ Remorum archiepiscopi” and names their children “Ebalum comitem de Roci et Andream comitem de Rameruch patrem Eabli Cathaulensis episcopi septemque filias...”[399]. Du Chesne interprets this passage as meaning that the wife of Hilduin [IV] was the daughter of Manassès “le Chauve” Vidame de Reims, who was the father of Archbishop Manassès who died in 1115 (see CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY)[400]. However, he has confused the two archbishops of Reims named Manassès: Hilduin’s wife was the half-sister of the one whose death is recorded in 1085. Her birth date is estimated from her mother's estimated birth date and the fact that Adelaide herself gave birth to her youngest child in [1060].
     "m HILDUIN [IV] Comte de Montdidier Seigneur de Ramerupt, son of HILDUIN [III] Seigneur de Ramerupt & his wife --- (-[1063])."
Med Lands cites:
[397] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1031, MGH SS XXIII, p. 783.
[398] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 10 and 11, MGH SS XIII, p. 254.
[399] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 18.
[400] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 20 & 21.14


; Per Weis: “Adele (Alix) de Roucy (151-22); m. 1031, Hilduin III (IV) de Rameru (151A-22) d. 1063, Count of Montdidier and Roucy.”.11
; NB: The lineage of the Comtes de Montdidier and Seigneurs de Ramerupt is confusing to me. So far, I have consulted four sources: Racines et Histoire, Genealogics, Med Lands, and Weis. They do not appear consistent with each other. The common point in all lineages is the marriage of a Hilduin (de Ponthieu/de Montdidier) and an Alix/Adèle/lice/Adelaide (de Roucy), dau. of Ebles Comte de Roucy and Beatrix de Hainaut.

I. Racines et Histoire (Montdidier, Ramerupt) is the longest lineage offered in terms of number of generations, but cites no sources. The five of generations to arrive at the common couple of Hilduin and Alix is as follows:
I.1. Helgaud II comte de Montreuil, d aft 879, had a son:
**I.2. Herluin II comte de Ponthieu, Montreuil et Amiens, b ca 890 d 13 Jul 945; m1 NN de Dammartin; m2 NN, had a son (mother not identified):
****I.3. Ro(t)ger (Rotgaire) comte de Ternois et de Montreuil, d 957; m NN, had a son:
******I.4. Guillaume I comte de Ponthieu, de Montreuil et de Boulogne, b ca 915/20 d ca 980; m Mahaut (Mathilde, Maud) de Boulogne, had a son:
********I.5. Hilduin** III de Ponthieu (1er de Montdidier) comte de Montdidier, de Ponthieu et de Roucy, b ca 933/45 d bef 956 or 1009; m1 Hersende (Hersent) d’Arcis-sur-Aube (dau. of Helpuin comte d'Arcis); m2 Alix** (Adélaïde) de Roucy

II. Racines et Histoire (de Boubers) shows how confusion between given names (Helgaud, Herloin/Herluin, Hilduin) and title (Ponthieu, Montreuil, Ramerup) could lead to further confusion:
II.1. Helgaud I comte de Ponthieu, Abbé de Saint-Riquier (son of Oswin) m b ca 805 d 863; m Berthe de Ponthieu, b ca 805 d bef 859, had a son:
**II.2. Hilduin 1er comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil, d ca 878; m Hélissende de Ramerupt comtesse d’Arcis-sur-Aube, had a son:
****II.3. Helgaud II (Childwald) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil, b ca 860 d 926; m NN, had a son:
******II.4. Herluin II seigneur de Ramerupt and de Montdidier; m? Hersende (widow of Hilduin III de Ponthieu), had a son:
********II.5. Herloin/Hilduin** IV comte de Montdidier, seigneur de Ramerupt, d’Arcis et de Breteuil, comte de Roucy (by marriage); m Alix** de Roucy

III. Racines et Histoire (Ponthieu-Montreuil) again shows how a confusion between names (Helgaud, Herloin/Herluin, Hilduin) and title (Ponthieu, Montreuil, Ramerup) could lead to confusion.:
III.1. Helgaud II (Childwald)° comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil, b ca 860 926; m NN, had a son:
**III.2. Herluin II (Childwin) comte de Ponthieu, Montreuil et Amiens b ca 890 d 945; m1 (div. bef 927) ? de Dammartin; m2) NN, had a son (mother not identified):
****III.3. Ro(t)ger (Rotgaire) comte de Ternois et de Montreuil d 957; m NN, had a son:
******III.4. Guillaume 1er comte de Ponthieu, de Montreuil et de Boulogne, b ca 915/920 d ca 980; m ca 940 Mahaut (Mathilde, Maud) de Boulogne, had a son:
********III.5. Hilduin** III de Ponthieu (1er de Montdidier) comte de Montdidier & de Ponthieu, seigneur de Ramerupt, Arcis et Breteuil, comte de Roucy (by marriage), b ca 933/45 d ca 1009; m1 ? Hersende «La Pieuse» de Ramerupt b ca 950 comtesse d’Arcies; m2 Alix** (Adélaïde) de Roucy

IV. Genealogics differs significantly from the Racines et Histoire lineage. It offers only four generation to the CP and cites the same Europäische Stammtafeln table for all relationships (3:676):
IV.1. (no predecessors shown)
**IV.2. Hilduin [I] Comte d'Arcis-sur-Aube; m Hersende Dame de Ramerupt, had a son:
****IV.3. Hilduin II Sire de Ramerupt Comes, b ca 960, had a son:
******IV.4. Hilduin III Sire de Ramerupt Comes, liv 1026; m NN, had a son:
********IV.5. Hildouin** IV de Montdidier, b ca 1005 d 1063; m Adèle** (Alice) de Roucy Heiress of Roucy

V. Med Lands shows all of the primary individuals listed by Genealogy, but is somewhat uncertain in attributing fathers to son for the first three generations. No predecessor is shown to generation III.1:
V.1. Hilduin I Comte de Montdidier, d bef 956; m NN, relationship to following unknown:
**V.2. Unknown m Hersende, Dame de Ramerupt, had a son:
****V.3. Hilduin II Comte d’Arcis-sur-Aube, Seigneur de Ramerupt, d aft 992/993; m NN, possibly, had a son:
******V.4. Hilduin III de Ramerupt Comte de Montdidier, Seigneur de Ramerupt, d aft 1032; m NN, had a son:
********V.5. Hilduin** IV de Ramerupt Comte de Montdidier, Seigneur de Ramerupt, d 1063; m Adelaide de Roucy**

VI. Weis, in a new line added to the 8th edition, shows:
VI1. (no predecessors shown)
**VI2. Helpuin I Comte d'Arcis-sur-Aube, b ca 925; m. Hersend, Countess de Rameru [sic], had a son:
****VI3. Hilduin I (or II), b. ca 950 d bef 1000, had a son:
******VI4. Hilduin II (or III) de Rameru [sic], b. ca 985 d. ca 1037, had a son:
********VI5. Hilduin** II (or III) de Rameru [sic] Count of Montdidier, Lord of Rameru [sic], Count of Roucy, b. ca 1010, d. 1063; m. ca 1031 Adele de Roucy** d. 1062.

Conclusion: I can't resolve all of the variation in these lineages, but I am convinced that some of the confusion may relate to the use of the name Herluin and Hildouin in so many families (that on occasion intermarried) and possible confusion between the Ponthieu, Montreuil, Boulogne and Ramerupt titles. In effort to resolve the ancestry of Hilduin** who m. Adele**, I posted a query on soc.genealogy.medieval, and received the following useful reply from Peter Stewart:
     "As for the ancestry of Hilduin (died 1063) the husband of Alix/Adela of Roucy, we know from a charter of King Robert II dated 1031 that Hilduin (IV) was son of a count also named Hilduin whose brother Manasses was count (almost certainly) of Dammartin. We know from a charter of King Philippe I dated 1061 that their father was a nephew of another Hilduin who was granted Combs-la-Ville by Hugo Magnus, duke of Franks (died 956). This Hilduin died before Hugo Magnus, who took back Combs for himself.
     "We also know from a Vita of St Balsemius (or Baussange) that the mother of Count Hilduin active until 977/92 was Hersende who together with him founded the priory of Notre-Dame at Ramerupt where they deposited relics of the saint taken from Arcis-sur-Aube. Hersende appears to have been heiress of these places, or at least of Ramerupt, since she was a widow acting on her own authority when she took the relics from Arcis for her new church at Ramerupt ca 960. The Vita of St Balsemius was probably written in the 11th or 12th century, though this is not certain - its fullest extant version is a copy made by 1519, perhaps at Saint-Basle de Verzy abbey.
     "The names of the wives of these men, apart from Hersende, are unknown. Jean-Noël Mathieu and others have speculatively proposed family origins for them, but without evidence solid enough for details to be worth repeating."

My query also elicited the comment from P. J. Evans: "Moriarty's manuscript ... says that the early generations are "unclear""

VII. The Stewart & Evans comments imply the following:
VII.1 (predecessors are "unclear"
**VII.2 Hilduin Count live 977/92; m. Hersende heiress of Arcis-sur-Aube and Ramerupt, had a son:
****VII.3 Hilduin
******VII.4 Manasses Comte de Dammartin
******VII.4 Hilduin Count
********VII.5 Hilduin** IV d. 1063; m Alix/Adela** de Roucy

     The Weis and Genealogics lineages are close to being consistent to the "known" facts outlined by Stewart. The partial consistency in generations 3, 4 and 5 between Genealogics and Med Lands encourages me to accept those three generations as likely on track. However, the major differences between the three Racine et Histoire lineages and the other three sources leave me too confused to draw a clear conclusion. (Peter Steward completely rejects Racines et Histoire as a source). In its discussion of the Comtes de Montreuil, Med Lands shows individuals who correspond to Racine et Histoire's (Montdidier) and R&H (Ponthieu) first three generations (I.1 - I.3 and III.1 - III.3), but shows no children for I.3/III.3 Roger and makes no connection to the Seigneurs de Ramerupt line shown by Genealogics and Med Lands. I have amended my database to be reasonably consistent with the Weis, Genealogics, and Stewart lineages, but have not yet completely severed connections to earlier generations. GA Vaut.17,18,19,20,10,21,22,23,24 He was Comte de Montdidier between 1032 and 1063.15 He was Seigneur de Ramerupt between 1032 and 1063.15 He was comte de Roucy between 1033 and 1063.15

Citations

  1. [S752] Marcellus Donald Alexander R. von Redlich, compiler, Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. I (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1941 (1988 reprint)), p. 279. Hereinafter cited as von Redlich [1941] Charlemagne Desc. vol I.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adèle (Alice) de Roucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020523&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hildouin IV de Montdidier: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020522&tree=LEO
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, Chapter 2. SEIGNEURS de ATH: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLEMISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc111525106. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), Line 151A-22, p. 147. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille & Seigneurs de BOUBERS-1, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boubers1.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  7. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamdampjo.htm#HilduinIVMontdidierdied1063
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hilduin III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120706&tree=LEO
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  11. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed, Line 246-22, p. 221.
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  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adèle (Alice) de Roucy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020523&tree=LEO
  14. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#AdelaideRoucydied1062MHilduinIIIMontdidi
  15. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Hilduin IV de Montdidier: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilduin_IV_de_Montdidier. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  16. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilduin_IV,_Count_of_Montdidier. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  17. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hilduin: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120703&tree=LEO
  18. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, Seigneurs de Ramerupt, Comtes de Montdidier: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamdampjo.htm#_Toc494628372
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  20. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, COMTES de MONTREUIL: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfraamp.htm#_Toc494871036
  21. [S4812] Peter Stewart, "Stewart email 1 Oct 2020: "Who were the ancestors of the Hilduin III/IV (?) who m. Adelaide/Alix/Adele de Roucy?"," e-mail message from e-mail address via googlegroups.com (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/nMorhx81xOo) to Google Group: soc.genealogy.medieval, 2 Nov 2011, https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/nMorhx81xOo. Hereinafter cited as "Stewart email 1 Oct 2020."
  22. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille & Seigneurs de BOUBERS-1, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boubers1.pdf
  23. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Ponthieu, & Montreuil, Saint-Pol, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Ponthieu.pdf
  24. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 1 Oct 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  25. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrice de Montdidier: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020535&tree=LEO
  26. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed, Line 153-24A, p. 146.
  27. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed, Line 151-22, p. 146.
  28. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Andre: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174689&tree=LEO
  29. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed, Line 151A-23, p. 147.
  30. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Iberia 8 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/iberia/iberia8.html
  31. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Aubigne.pdf, p. 2.
  32. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avesnes.pdf, p. 2.
  33. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ade (Ada) de Montdidier: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020638&tree=LEO
  34. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamdampjo.htm#AdaRoucyM1GeoffrGuiseM3ThierrAvesnes
  35. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamdampjo.htm#ErmentrudeRoucydied1102MReynel
  36. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I31916
  37. [S2377] Leo van de Pas, "van de Pas email 2 Aug 2010: "Ebles II, Comte de Roucy"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 2 Aug 2010. Hereinafter cited as "van de Pas email 2 Aug 2010."
  38. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ebles II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020651&tree=LEO
  39. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#EblesIIRoucydied1103
  40. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed, Line 246-23, p. 221.
  41. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed, Line 246-23, p. 221.
  42. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marguerite de Montdidier: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164671&tree=LEO
  43. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamdampjo.htm#MargueriteRoucyMHuguesClermont
  44. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I2809
  45. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamdampjo.htm#AdelaideRoucyMCononFalconSarrazGrandson

Adele (Adelix) de Roucy1,2,3,4

F, #4808, b. circa 1014, d. 1062
FatherEbles I “Fortis” de Roucy Count of Rheims & Roucy2,3,4 b. c 988, d. 11 May 1033
MotherBeatrix (?) Countess of Hainaut2,3,4 b. c 998, d. bt 1016 - 1092
ReferenceGAV25 EDV25
Last Edited27 Nov 2020
     Adele (Adelix) de Roucy was born circa 1014 at Roucy, Aisne, France; Med Lands says b. 1015/20; Weis and Genealogics say b. ca 1014.2,3,4 She married Hildouin IV de Montdidier comte de Montdidier, seigneur de Ramerupt, d’Arcis et de Breteuil, comte de Roucy, son of Herloin/Hilduin III de Montdidier seigneur de Ramerupt et de Montdidier and Hersende (?), in 1031.5,6,7,8,1,3,9,4
Adele (Adelix) de Roucy died in 1062; Charlemagne Desc. says d. 1062; Langston & Buck says d. 1063; Weis and Med Lands say d. 1062; Genealogics says d. 1063.10,11,8,2,3,4
     ; Per Weis: “Hilduin III (or IV) de Rameru, b. abt. 1010, d. 1063, Count of Montdidier, Lord of Rameru 1061, Count of Roucy 1032; m. abt. 1031 Adele de Roucy (151-22, 246-22), d. 1062. (seversmith, 2,542-2,543, 2,546; ES III.4/676*677).”.8

; Per Racines et Histoire (de Boubers): “Herloin ou Hilduin IV comte de Montdidier, seigneur de Ramerupt d’Arcis et de Breteuil, comte de Roucy par mariage :
     ép. Alix de Roucy”.12

; Per Med Lands:
     "HILDUIN [IV] de Ramerupt, son of HILDUIN [III] Seigneur de Ramerupt & his wife --- (-[1063]). Robert II King of France confirmed the donation of "Manasses comes" to Chartres Notre-Dame by charter dated 4 Feb 1031, signed by "…Manasses comitis, Hilduini comitis fratris eius, filiorum eius Manassis et Hilduini, Burcardo de Montemorenciaco, Evrardi filii Hilduini de Britoglio, Amalrici de Monteforti, Milonis de Caprosa…"[627]. "…Hilduinus comes et Hilduinus filius eius…" subscribed the charter dated 1032 under which "Odo comes palatinus Francorum regis" founded Epernay abbey[628]. Comte [de Montdidier]. Seigneur de Ramerupt. "Vir nobilis Hugo Bardul" donated property to Montiérender by charter dated [1061/62 or before], subscribed by "Teobaldi comitis, Hilduini comitis, Burdini de Belfort, Manasse filii eius"[629]. Hermann’s Miracles of Laon Sainte-Marie records that Philippe I King of France sent "comitem Hilduinum cum domno Helinando Laudunensi Episcopo" as ambassadors to Rome, undated[630].
     "m ADELAIDE de Roucy, daughter of EBLES Comte de Roucy & his wife Beatrix de Hainaut ([1015/20]-1062). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Aelidam et Hadewidem" as the two daughters of "Ebalus de Roceio " & his wife, specifying that "omnes comites de Roceio et de Arceis sive de Ramerupt vel de Brena super Albam" descended from Adelaide[631]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Adelidem et Hadevidem" as the two daughters of "Ebalus de Roceio " and his wife Beatrix, specifying that "secunda filia…soror…Hadevidis nupsit Helduino comiti de Ramerut[632]. The Histoire de la restauration de l’Eglise de Laon records the election of “domnum Bartholomeum Remensis ecclesiæ B. Mariæ canonicum et thesaurarium” as bishop of Laon and recites his ancestry: “Hilduinus...comes Rociensis avus eius” married “Adeladem germanam domni Manassæ Remorum archiepiscopi” and names their children “Ebalum comitem de Roci et Andream comitem de Rameruch patrem Eabli Cathaulensis episcopi, septemque filias...”[633]. Du Chesne interprets this passage as meaning that the wife of Hilduin [IV] was the daughter of Manassès “le Chauve” Vidame de Reims, who was the father of Archbishop Manassès who died in 1115 (see above in the present document)[634]. However, he has confused the two archbishops of Reims named Manassès: Hilduin’s wife was the half-sister of the one whose death is recorded in 1085. Her birth date is estimated from her mother's estimated birth date and the fact that Adelaide herself gave birth to her youngest child in [1060]."
Med Lands cites:
[627] Chartres Notre-Dame, Tome I, XIII, p. 87.
[628] Arbois de Jubainville, Tome I, XXXV, p. 468.
[629] Montiérender 42, p. 169.
[630] Ex Hermanni Laudunensis Monacii de Miraculis B. Mariæ Laudunensis, RHGF XII, p. 268.
[631] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1031, MGH SS XXIII, p. 783.
[632] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 10 and 11, MGH SS XIII, p. 254.
[633] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 18.
[634] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 20 & 21.9
GAV-25 EDV-25 GKJ-26.

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3/4:675A, 677.
2. The Bradley Family and Ancestry, 1997. , Bradley, Robert.
3. The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H. 184.3


; Per Weis: “Adele de Roucy, b. abt. 1014, d. 1062; m. 1031, Hilduin III (or IV) de Rameru (151A-22), b. abt. 1010, d. 1063, Count of Montdidier & Roucy, seigneur of Rameru. (Seversmith, 2, 242, 2, 247; Brandenburg, p. 78. Gen. 19-22; ES III.4/675A, 676). (See: GenI. (n.s.) X (1893); 85, for Montdidier).”.1

; Per Med Lands:
     "ADELAIDE de Roucy ([1015/20]-1062). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Aelidam et Hadewidem" as the two daughters of "Ebalus de Roceio" & his wife, specifying that "omnes comites de Roceio et de Arceis sive de Ramerupt vel de Brena super Albam" descended from Adelaide[397]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Adelidem et Hadevidem" as the two daughters of "Ebalus de Roceio" and his wife Beatrix, specifying that "secunda filia…soror…Hadevidis nupsit Helduino comiti de Ramerut[398]. The Histoire de la restauration de l’Eglise de Laon records the election of “domnum Bartholomeum Remensis ecclesiæ B. Mariæ canonicum et thesaurarium” as bishop of Laon and recites his ancestry: “Hilduinus...comes Rociensis avus eius” married “Adeladem germanam domni Manassæ Remorum archiepiscopi” and names their children “Ebalum comitem de Roci et Andream comitem de Rameruch patrem Eabli Cathaulensis episcopi septemque filias...”[399]. Du Chesne interprets this passage as meaning that the wife of Hilduin [IV] was the daughter of Manassès “le Chauve” Vidame de Reims, who was the father of Archbishop Manassès who died in 1115 (see CHAMPAGNE NOBILITY)[400]. However, he has confused the two archbishops of Reims named Manassès: Hilduin’s wife was the half-sister of the one whose death is recorded in 1085. Her birth date is estimated from her mother's estimated birth date and the fact that Adelaide herself gave birth to her youngest child in [1060].
     "m HILDUIN [IV] Comte de Montdidier Seigneur de Ramerupt, son of HILDUIN [III] Seigneur de Ramerupt & his wife --- (-[1063])."
Med Lands cites:
[397] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1031, MGH SS XXIII, p. 783.
[398] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 10 and 11, MGH SS XIII, p. 254.
[399] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 18.
[400] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, pp. 20 & 21.4


; Per Weis: “Adele (Alix) de Roucy (151-22); m. 1031, Hilduin III (IV) de Rameru (151A-22) d. 1063, Count of Montdidier and Roucy.”.1
; NB: The lineage of the Comtes de Montdidier and Seigneurs de Ramerupt is confusing to me. So far, I have consulted four sources: Racines et Histoire, Genealogics, Med Lands, and Weis. They do not appear consistent with each other. The common point in all lineages is the marriage of a Hilduin (de Ponthieu/de Montdidier) and an Alix/Adèle/lice/Adelaide (de Roucy), dau. of Ebles Comte de Roucy and Beatrix de Hainaut.

I. Racines et Histoire (Montdidier, Ramerupt) is the longest lineage offered in terms of number of generations, but cites no sources. The five of generations to arrive at the common couple of Hilduin and Alix is as follows:
I.1. Helgaud II comte de Montreuil, d aft 879, had a son:
**I.2. Herluin II comte de Ponthieu, Montreuil et Amiens, b ca 890 d 13 Jul 945; m1 NN de Dammartin; m2 NN, had a son (mother not identified):
****I.3. Ro(t)ger (Rotgaire) comte de Ternois et de Montreuil, d 957; m NN, had a son:
******I.4. Guillaume I comte de Ponthieu, de Montreuil et de Boulogne, b ca 915/20 d ca 980; m Mahaut (Mathilde, Maud) de Boulogne, had a son:
********I.5. Hilduin** III de Ponthieu (1er de Montdidier) comte de Montdidier, de Ponthieu et de Roucy, b ca 933/45 d bef 956 or 1009; m1 Hersende (Hersent) d’Arcis-sur-Aube (dau. of Helpuin comte d'Arcis); m2 Alix** (Adélaïde) de Roucy

II. Racines et Histoire (de Boubers) shows how confusion between given names (Helgaud, Herloin/Herluin, Hilduin) and title (Ponthieu, Montreuil, Ramerup) could lead to further confusion:
II.1. Helgaud I comte de Ponthieu, Abbé de Saint-Riquier (son of Oswin) m b ca 805 d 863; m Berthe de Ponthieu, b ca 805 d bef 859, had a son:
**II.2. Hilduin 1er comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil, d ca 878; m Hélissende de Ramerupt comtesse d’Arcis-sur-Aube, had a son:
****II.3. Helgaud II (Childwald) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil, b ca 860 d 926; m NN, had a son:
******II.4. Herluin II seigneur de Ramerupt and de Montdidier; m? Hersende (widow of Hilduin III de Ponthieu), had a son:
********II.5. Herloin/Hilduin** IV comte de Montdidier, seigneur de Ramerupt, d’Arcis et de Breteuil, comte de Roucy (by marriage); m Alix** de Roucy

III. Racines et Histoire (Ponthieu-Montreuil) again shows how a confusion between names (Helgaud, Herloin/Herluin, Hilduin) and title (Ponthieu, Montreuil, Ramerup) could lead to confusion.:
III.1. Helgaud II (Childwald)° comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil, b ca 860 926; m NN, had a son:
**III.2. Herluin II (Childwin) comte de Ponthieu, Montreuil et Amiens b ca 890 d 945; m1 (div. bef 927) ? de Dammartin; m2) NN, had a son (mother not identified):
****III.3. Ro(t)ger (Rotgaire) comte de Ternois et de Montreuil d 957; m NN, had a son:
******III.4. Guillaume 1er comte de Ponthieu, de Montreuil et de Boulogne, b ca 915/920 d ca 980; m ca 940 Mahaut (Mathilde, Maud) de Boulogne, had a son:
********III.5. Hilduin** III de Ponthieu (1er de Montdidier) comte de Montdidier & de Ponthieu, seigneur de Ramerupt, Arcis et Breteuil, comte de Roucy (by marriage), b ca 933/45 d ca 1009; m1 ? Hersende «La Pieuse» de Ramerupt b ca 950 comtesse d’Arcies; m2 Alix** (Adélaïde) de Roucy

IV. Genealogics differs significantly from the Racines et Histoire lineage. It offers only four generation to the CP and cites the same Europäische Stammtafeln table for all relationships (3:676):
IV.1. (no predecessors shown)
**IV.2. Hilduin [I] Comte d'Arcis-sur-Aube; m Hersende Dame de Ramerupt, had a son:
****IV.3. Hilduin II Sire de Ramerupt Comes, b ca 960, had a son:
******IV.4. Hilduin III Sire de Ramerupt Comes, liv 1026; m NN, had a son:
********IV.5. Hildouin** IV de Montdidier, b ca 1005 d 1063; m Adèle** (Alice) de Roucy Heiress of Roucy

V. Med Lands shows all of the primary individuals listed by Genealogy, but is somewhat uncertain in attributing fathers to son for the first three generations. No predecessor is shown to generation III.1:
V.1. Hilduin I Comte de Montdidier, d bef 956; m NN, relationship to following unknown:
**V.2. Unknown m Hersende, Dame de Ramerupt, had a son:
****V.3. Hilduin II Comte d’Arcis-sur-Aube, Seigneur de Ramerupt, d aft 992/993; m NN, possibly, had a son:
******V.4. Hilduin III de Ramerupt Comte de Montdidier, Seigneur de Ramerupt, d aft 1032; m NN, had a son:
********V.5. Hilduin** IV de Ramerupt Comte de Montdidier, Seigneur de Ramerupt, d 1063; m Adelaide de Roucy**

VI. Weis, in a new line added to the 8th edition, shows:
VI1. (no predecessors shown)
**VI2. Helpuin I Comte d'Arcis-sur-Aube, b ca 925; m. Hersend, Countess de Rameru [sic], had a son:
****VI3. Hilduin I (or II), b. ca 950 d bef 1000, had a son:
******VI4. Hilduin II (or III) de Rameru [sic], b. ca 985 d. ca 1037, had a son:
********VI5. Hilduin** II (or III) de Rameru [sic] Count of Montdidier, Lord of Rameru [sic], Count of Roucy, b. ca 1010, d. 1063; m. ca 1031 Adele de Roucy** d. 1062.

Conclusion: I can't resolve all of the variation in these lineages, but I am convinced that some of the confusion may relate to the use of the name Herluin and Hildouin in so many families (that on occasion intermarried) and possible confusion between the Ponthieu, Montreuil, Boulogne and Ramerupt titles. In effort to resolve the ancestry of Hilduin** who m. Adele**, I posted a query on soc.genealogy.medieval, and received the following useful reply from Peter Stewart:
     "As for the ancestry of Hilduin (died 1063) the husband of Alix/Adela of Roucy, we know from a charter of King Robert II dated 1031 that Hilduin (IV) was son of a count also named Hilduin whose brother Manasses was count (almost certainly) of Dammartin. We know from a charter of King Philippe I dated 1061 that their father was a nephew of another Hilduin who was granted Combs-la-Ville by Hugo Magnus, duke of Franks (died 956). This Hilduin died before Hugo Magnus, who took back Combs for himself.
     "We also know from a Vita of St Balsemius (or Baussange) that the mother of Count Hilduin active until 977/92 was Hersende who together with him founded the priory of Notre-Dame at Ramerupt where they deposited relics of the saint taken from Arcis-sur-Aube. Hersende appears to have been heiress of these places, or at least of Ramerupt, since she was a widow acting on her own authority when she took the relics from Arcis for her new church at Ramerupt ca 960. The Vita of St Balsemius was probably written in the 11th or 12th century, though this is not certain - its fullest extant version is a copy made by 1519, perhaps at Saint-Basle de Verzy abbey.
     "The names of the wives of these men, apart from Hersende, are unknown. Jean-Noël Mathieu and others have speculatively proposed family origins for them, but without evidence solid enough for details to be worth repeating."

My query also elicited the comment from P. J. Evans: "Moriarty's manuscript ... says that the early generations are "unclear""

VII. The Stewart & Evans comments imply the following:
VII.1 (predecessors are "unclear"
**VII.2 Hilduin Count live 977/92; m. Hersende heiress of Arcis-sur-Aube and Ramerupt, had a son:
****VII.3 Hilduin
******VII.4 Manasses Comte de Dammartin
******VII.4 Hilduin Count
********VII.5 Hilduin** IV d. 1063; m Alix/Adela** de Roucy

     The Weis and Genealogics lineages are close to being consistent to the "known" facts outlined by Stewart. The partial consistency in generations 3, 4 and 5 between Genealogics and Med Lands encourages me to accept those three generations as likely on track. However, the major differences between the three Racine et Histoire lineages and the other three sources leave me too confused to draw a clear conclusion. (Peter Steward completely rejects Racines et Histoire as a source). In its discussion of the Comtes de Montreuil, Med Lands shows individuals who correspond to Racine et Histoire's (Montdidier) and R&H (Ponthieu) first three generations (I.1 - I.3 and III.1 - III.3), but shows no children for I.3/III.3 Roger and makes no connection to the Seigneurs de Ramerupt line shown by Genealogics and Med Lands. I have amended my database to be reasonably consistent with the Weis, Genealogics, and Stewart lineages, but have not yet completely severed connections to earlier generations. GA Vaut.13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21

Citations

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  2. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed, Line 151-22, p. 146.
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  14. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, Seigneurs de Ramerupt, Comtes de Montdidier: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamdampjo.htm#_Toc494628372
  15. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Montdidier, Comtes de Dammartin, & Seigneurs de Ramerupt, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Montdidier-Dammartin-Ramerupt.pdf
  16. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, COMTES de MONTREUIL: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfraamp.htm#_Toc494871036
  17. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed, Line 151A-21, p. 147.
  18. [S4812] Peter Stewart, "Stewart email 1 Oct 2020: "Who were the ancestors of the Hilduin III/IV (?) who m. Adelaide/Alix/Adele de Roucy?"," e-mail message from e-mail address via googlegroups.com (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/nMorhx81xOo) to Google Group: soc.genealogy.medieval, 2 Nov 2011, https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/nMorhx81xOo. Hereinafter cited as "Stewart email 1 Oct 2020."
  19. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille & Seigneurs de BOUBERS-1, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boubers1.pdf
  20. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Ponthieu, & Montreuil, Saint-Pol, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Ponthieu.pdf
  21. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 1 Oct 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  22. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrice de Montdidier: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020535&tree=LEO
  23. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed, Line 153-24A, p. 146.
  24. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Andre: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174689&tree=LEO
  25. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed, Line 151A-23, p. 147.
  26. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Aubigne.pdf, p. 2.
  27. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avesnes.pdf, p. 2.
  28. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamdampjo.htm#AdaRoucyM1GeoffrGuiseM3ThierrAvesnes
  29. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamdampjo.htm#ErmentrudeRoucydied1102MReynel
  30. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I31916
  31. [S2377] Leo van de Pas, "van de Pas email 2 Aug 2010: "Ebles II, Comte de Roucy"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 2 Aug 2010. Hereinafter cited as "van de Pas email 2 Aug 2010."
  32. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ebles II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020651&tree=LEO
  33. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#EblesIIRoucydied1103
  34. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hildouin IV de Montdidier: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020522&tree=LEO
  35. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed, Line 246-23, p. 221.
  36. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed, Line 246-23, p. 221.
  37. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marguerite de Montdidier: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164671&tree=LEO
  38. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamdampjo.htm#MargueriteRoucyMHuguesClermont
  39. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I2809
  40. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamdampjo.htm#AdelaideRoucyMCononFalconSarrazGrandson

Beatrice/Beatrix de Montdidier1,2,3,4,5

F, #4809
FatherHildouin IV de Montdidier comte de Montdidier, seigneur de Ramerupt, d’Arcis et de Breteuil, comte de Roucy2,6,3,4,7,8,9 b. c 1010, d. c 1063
MotherAdele (Adelix) de Roucy2,3,4,7,8,10,9 b. c 1014, d. 1062
ReferenceGAV24 EDV24
Last Edited2 Oct 2020
     Beatrice/Beatrix de Montdidier married Geoffroy II du Perche Comte du Perche et Mortagne, Seigneur de Mortagne et de Nogent, son of Rotrou I (?) comte de Mortagne, vicomte de Châteaudun and Adeliz/Adelise de Bellême Dame de Domfront.11,12,1,3,4 Beatrice/Beatrix de Montdidier was born circa 1050.13
     GAV-24 EDV-24. Beatrice/Beatrix de Montdidier was also known as Beatrix de Roucy.14,15

; Per France Balade: "Geoffroy de Mortagne( +1100)
     "Geoffroy, Seigneur de Mortagne et de Nogent, suit Guillaume le Conquérant en Angleterre et participe à la Bataille d'Hastings en 1066. En récompense il obtient des domaines en Angleterre.
     "En 1087 avec l'aide de ses frères Hugues de Chateaudun et Rotrou de Montfort et aussi de Hildebert Payen de Mondoubleau il penètre sur les terres de son voisin Robert II de Belleme Comte d'Alencon et pille son domaine. Avec le Comte du Mans Hélie de La Flèche cette fois-ci il essaya en vain de réediter ce type d'action contre Robert un peu plus tard. Sur la fin de sa vie il se préoccupa de faire des fondations religieuses, c'est lui qui est à l'origine des premières léproseries du Perche.
     "Il a eu avec Béatrice de Roucy un fils, Rotrou, le premier à porter dès le début le titre de Comte du Perche que Geoffroy avait obtenu à la fin de sa vie.”.15

; Per Weis: "Beatrix de Montdidier, d. 2 Sept. aft 1129; m. Geoffroy, Count of Mortagne, 1st Count de Perche, d. 1100, son of Routrou II, Count of Mortagne, Viscount of Chateaudun, and Adeline de Bellesme, Dame de Domfront, dau. of Warin de Bellesme, Seigneur de Domfront. (CP XI Append. D, 112-113; West Winter XII.70; XI.198; XI.461c; Brandenburg 78; ES III.4/689; Anselme III:307-8).“.4

Family

Geoffroy II du Perche Comte du Perche et Mortagne, Seigneur de Mortagne et de Nogent b. c 1050, d. Oct 1100
Children

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Geoffrey II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020534&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrice de Montdidier: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020535&tree=LEO
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boubers1.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), Line 153-24A, p. 146. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
  5. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed, Line 151-23, p. 146.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hildouin IV de Montdidier: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020522&tree=LEO
  7. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed, Line 151-22, p. 146.
  8. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille & Seigneurs de BOUBERS-1, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boubers1.pdf
  9. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamdampjo.htm#HilduinIVMontdidierdied1063. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adèle (Alice) de Roucy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020523&tree=LEO
  11. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 193, de PERCHE 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  12. [S4748] France Balade, online <http://www.francebalade.com/>. Hereinafter cited as France Balade Website (FR).
  13. [S640] Inc. Brøderbund Software, World Family Tree Vol. L1, Ed. 1, Family #0021 (n.p.: Release date: October 30, 1998, unknown publish date).
  14. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Beaumont 5 page (The Sires de Beaumont-le-Roger): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/beaumont/beaumont5.html
  15. [S4748] France Balade Website (FR), online http://www.francebalade.com/, Les Vicomtes de Chateaudun: http://www.francebalade.com/chartres/ctdunois.htm
  16. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 151-25, p. 133. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  17. [S4748] France Balade Website (FR), online http://www.francebalade.com/, http://www.francebalade.com/maine/ctperche.htm#rotrou3
  18. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Rotrou I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026910&tree=LEO
  19. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed, line 153-23, p. 148.
  20. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY%20NOBILITY.htm#RotrouIdied1144B
  21. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes du Perche & Comtes de Mortagne, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Perche.pdf
  22. [S2106] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 6 Nov 2006: "Re: Evidence from Bishop Adalbero himself [was: Re: Kinsfolk of Blanche of Navarre: Brabant, Vermandois, Baudement, Aragon, Toulouse]"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 6 Nov 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 6 Nov 2006."
  23. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mahaut du Perche: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020636&tree=LEO
  24. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY%20NOBILITY.htm#MathildePercheM1RaymondITurenne

Geoffroy II du Perche Comte du Perche et Mortagne, Seigneur de Mortagne et de Nogent1,2,3,4,5

M, #4810, b. circa 1050, d. October 1100
FatherRotrou I (?) comte de Mortagne, vicomte de Châteaudun4,6,7,8,9,10,11 b. 1005, d. c 1 Mar 1080
MotherAdeliz/Adelise de Bellême Dame de Domfront4,11,12,9,10 b. c 1026
ReferenceGAV24
Last Edited2 Oct 2020
     Geoffroy II du Perche Comte du Perche et Mortagne, Seigneur de Mortagne et de Nogent married Beatrice/Beatrix de Montdidier, daughter of Hildouin IV de Montdidier comte de Montdidier, seigneur de Ramerupt, d’Arcis et de Breteuil, comte de Roucy and Adele (Adelix) de Roucy.1,3,4,13,14 Geoffroy II du Perche Comte du Perche et Mortagne, Seigneur de Mortagne et de Nogent was born circa 1050.15
Geoffroy II du Perche Comte du Perche et Mortagne, Seigneur de Mortagne et de Nogent died in October 1100.4
     He was Seigneur de Mortagne et de Nogent.3 GAV-24.

; Per France Balade: "Geoffroy de Mortagne( +1100)
     "Geoffroy, Seigneur de Mortagne et de Nogent, suit Guillaume le Conquérant en Angleterre et participe à la Bataille d'Hastings en 1066. En récompense il obtient des domaines en Angleterre.
     "En 1087 avec l'aide de ses frères Hugues de Chateaudun et Rotrou de Montfort et aussi de Hildebert Payen de Mondoubleau il penètre sur les terres de son voisin Robert II de Belleme Comte d'Alencon et pille son domaine. Avec le Comte du Mans Hélie de La Flèche cette fois-ci il essaya en vain de réediter ce type d'action contre Robert un peu plus tard. Sur la fin de sa vie il se préoccupa de faire des fondations religieuses, c'est lui qui est à l'origine des premières léproseries du Perche.
     "Il a eu avec Béatrice de Roucy un fils, Rotrou, le premier à porter dès le début le titre de Comte du Perche que Geoffroy avait obtenu à la fin de sa vie.”.8

; Per Weis: "Beatrix de Montdidier, d. 2 Sept. aft 1129; m. Geoffroy, Count of Mortagne, 1st Count de Perche, d. 1100, son of Routrou II, Count of Mortagne, Viscount of Chateaudun, and Adeline de Bellesme, Dame de Domfront, dau. of Warin de Bellesme, Seigneur de Domfront. (CP XI Append. D, 112-113; West Winter XII.70; XI.198; XI.461c; Brandenburg 78; ES III.4/689; Anselme III:307-8).“.14 He was Count de Perche between 1080 and 1100.5

Family

Beatrice/Beatrix de Montdidier
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 193, de PERCHE 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 153-24A, p. 134. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  3. [S4748] France Balade, online <http://www.francebalade.com/>. Hereinafter cited as France Balade Website (FR).
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Geoffrey II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020534&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counts_and_Viscounts_of_Ch%C3%A2teaudun. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  6. [S4756] Christian Settipani, "Les vicomtes de Châteaudun et leurs alliés," in Onomastique et Parenté dans l’Occident médiéval, K. S. B. Keats-Rohan and Christian Settipani, editor. (Linacre College, Oxford University: Oxford Unit for Prosopographical Research, 2000). Hereinafter cited as "Settipani [2000] Les vicomtes de Châteaudun."
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Rotrou: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120942&tree=LEO
  8. [S4748] France Balade Website (FR), online http://www.francebalade.com/, Les Vicomtes de Chateaudun: http://www.francebalade.com/chartres/ctdunois.htm
  9. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), line 151-23, p. 146. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
  10. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY%20NOBILITY.htm#RotrouIMortagnedied1080B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  11. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Vicomtes de Châteaudun, p. 8: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Chateaudun-Vicomtes.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adeliz de Bellême: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120943&tree=LEO
  13. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Boubers1.pdf, p. 3.
  14. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed, Line 153-24A, p. 146.
  15. [S640] Inc. Brøderbund Software, World Family Tree Vol. L1, Ed. 1, Family #0021 (n.p.: Release date: October 30, 1998, unknown publish date).
  16. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 151-25, p. 133.
  17. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Beaumont 5 page (The Sires de Beaumont-le-Roger): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/beaumont/beaumont5.html
  18. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Rotrou I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026910&tree=LEO
  19. [S4748] France Balade Website (FR), online http://www.francebalade.com/, http://www.francebalade.com/maine/ctperche.htm#rotrou3
  20. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed, line 153-23, p. 148.
  21. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY%20NOBILITY.htm#RotrouIdied1144B
  22. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes du Perche & Comtes de Mortagne, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Perche.pdf
  23. [S2106] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 6 Nov 2006: "Re: Evidence from Bishop Adalbero himself [was: Re: Kinsfolk of Blanche of Navarre: Brabant, Vermandois, Baudement, Aragon, Toulouse]"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 6 Nov 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 6 Nov 2006."
  24. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mahaut du Perche: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020636&tree=LEO
  25. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY%20NOBILITY.htm#MathildePercheM1RaymondITurenne

Margaret du Perche1,2,3

F, #4811, d. after 1156
FatherGeoffroy II du Perche Comte du Perche et Mortagne, Seigneur de Mortagne et de Nogent2,3,4 b. c 1050, d. Oct 1100
MotherBeatrice/Beatrix de Montdidier2,3
ReferenceGAV24 EDV24
Last Edited15 Aug 2020
     Margaret du Perche married Henry de Beaumont 1st Earl of Warwick, son of Roger de Beaumont Seigneur de Beaumont, Pont-Audemar and Adeline (Adelise) de Meulan, before 1100.1,5,3,6,7
Margaret du Perche died after 1156.2,1
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "HENRY de Beaumont, son of ROGER Seigneur de Beaumont-le-Roger & his wife Adeline de Meulan ([1048]-[20 Jun] 1119, bur Préaux). Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Rogerius de Bellomonte” married “Adelinam, Waleranni comitis Mellenti filiam“, by whom he had “duos filios Robertum et Henricum...postea comites” and that Henry received “comitatum Warwik” from “Willelmi regis in Anglia”[1280]. Orderic Vitalis records that William I King of England constructed “castrum apud Guarevicum” [Warwick] and entrusted it to “Henrico Rogerii de Bellomonte filio”, dated to 1068[1281]. "…Rotgerius de Bello monte, Hainricus filius eius…" witnessed the charter dated to [1073] under which William I King of England confirmed the donation by "Nielli filii alterius Nielli" made by "suus pater" of six churches on Guernsey to the abbey of Marmoutier[1282]. “Rogerius et filii mei Robertus et Henricus” donated “decimam tocius Brotonie” to Saint-Wandrille by charter dated 13 Jan 1086[1283]. After supporting William II King of England against the rebellion of 1088, the king created him Earl of Warwick in [Jul/Dec] 1088. Orderic Vitalis names “Rodbertum et Henricum” as the heirs of “Rogerius...de Bellomonte”, adding that Henry was granted “comitatum de Guarewico”[1284]. "Rogerus de Bellomonte" founded la Sainte-Trinité de Beaumont-le-Roger, with the consent of "liberis meis Roberto comite Mellentensi et Henrico comite de Warwic", by charter dated [1088/89][1285]. He opposed the invasion of England by Robert Duke of Normandy in Jun 1101, and remained loyal to Henry I King of England throughout his life[1286]. "…Henrici comitis…" subscribed a charter dated 14 Sep 1101 under which Henry I King of England donated property to Bath St Peter[1287]. “Henricus…Warwicense consul et Margareta uxor mea et Rogerus noster filius” donated property to Warwick St Mary by undated charter[1288]. The Annals of Margan record the death in 1119 of “comes Henricus de Warewic”[1289].
     "m MARGUERITE de Perche, daughter of GEOFFROY Comte de Mortagne et de Perche & his wife Beatrix de Ramerupt [Roucy] (-27 Aug after 1156). Orderic Vitalis names “Margaritam...Julianam” as the daughters of “Goisfredus Rotronis Mauritaniæ comitis filius” and his wife “Beatricis”, adding that Marguerite married “Henrico comiti de Covarevico”[1290]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names " Rotaldum eiusdem loci comitem et Iulainam de Aquila matrem regine Navarrensis, et Margaretam uxorem Gisleberti de Novo-burgo" as children, incorrectly, of "Rotaldo comiti de Pertica" & his wife Beatrix de Roucy, specifying that Marguerite had children "Rotaldum Ebrodiensem episcopum cum aliis liberis utriusque sexus"[1291]. “Henricus…Warwicense consul et Margareta uxor mea et Rogerus noster filius” donated property to Warwick St Mary by undated charter[1292]. The 1130 Pipe Roll records "comitisse de Warwic" in Wiltshire[1293]. The necrology of the church of Evreux records the death "27 Aug" of "Margarita mater Rotrodi episcopi"[1294]."
Med Lands cites:
[1280] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Du Chesne, 1619), Liber VII, IV, p. 269.
[1281] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber IV, IV, p. 184.
[1282] Delisle (1867), Pièces justificatives, 33, p. 36.
[1283] Saint-Wandrille, 41, p. 95.
[1284] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VIII, XXV, p. 427.
[1285] Beaumont-le-Roger Sainte-Trinité, A, II, p. 2.
[1286] CP XII/2 358-9.
[1287] Bath St Peter 42, p. 46.
[1288] Dugdale Monasticon VI.3, College of St Mary, Warwick I, p. 1326.
[1289] Annales de Margan, p. 10.
[1290] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VIII, V, p. 302.
[1291] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 14, MGH SS XIII, pp. 254-5.
[1292] Dugdale Monasticon VI.3, College of St Mary, Warwick I, p. 1326.
[1293] Pipe Roll 31 Hen I (1129/30), Wiltshire, p. 23.
[1294] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario ecclesiæ Ebroicensis, p. 463.8
GAV-24 EDV-24 GKJ-25.

Reference: Genealogics cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. XII/2 360.7

Reference: Weis [1992:133] 151-25.2

; Per Med Lands:
     ""MARGUERITE du Perche (-27 Aug after 1156). Orderic Vitalis names “Margaritam...Julianam” as the daughters of “Goisfredus Rotronis Mauritaniæ comitis filius” and his wife “Beatricis”, adding that Marguerite married “Henrico comiti de Covarevico”[1710]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names " Rotaldum eiusdem loci comitem et Iulainam de Aquila matrem regine Navarrensis, et Margaretam uxorem Gisleberti de Novo-burgo" as children, incorrectly, of "Rotaldo comiti de Pertica" & his wife Beatrix de Roucy, specifying that Marguerite had children "Rotaldum Ebrodiensem episcopum cum aliis liberis utriusque sexus"[1711]. “Henricus…Warwicense consul et Margareta uxor mea et Rogerus noster filius” donated property to Warwick St Mary by undated charter[1712]. The 1130 Pipe Roll records "comitisse de Warwic" in Wiltshire[1713]. 1156. The necrology of the church of Evreux records the death "27 Aug" of "Margarita mater Rotrodi episcopi"[1714].
     "m HENRY de Beaumont Earl of Warwick, son of ROGER Seigneur de Beaumont-le-Roger & his wife Adeline de Meulan ([1048]-[20 Jun] 1119, bur Préaux)."
Med Lands cites:
[1710] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VIII, V, p. 302.
[1711] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 14, MGH SS XIII, pp. 254-5.
[1712] Dugdale Monasticon VI.3, College of St Mary, Warwick I, p. 1326.
[1713] Pipe Roll 31 Hen I (1129/30), Wiltshire, p. 23.
[1714] RHGF XXIII, Ex Obituario ecclesiæ Ebroicensis, p. 463.9

Citations

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    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 151-25, p. 133. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
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Eudes I Borel (?) Duc de Bourgogne1,2

M, #4812, b. circa 1058, d. 23 March 1103
FatherHenri (?) Duke of Burgundy2,3 b. c 1035, d. bt 1066 - 1074
MotherSibylle/Sybilla (?) of Barcelona2,3 b. c 1035, d. 7 Apr 1074
ReferenceGAV25 EDV25
Last Edited20 Sep 2020
     Eudes I Borel (?) Duc de Bourgogne was born circa 1058.2 He married Sibylle de Bourgogne Duchess of Burgundy, daughter of Guillaume I "The Great" Testard (?) Comte de Bourgogne et de Macon and Etiennette (?), in 1080.2,4,5,6,7,3
Eudes I Borel (?) Duc de Bourgogne died on 23 March 1103 at Tarsus, Mersin (now, Cilicia then), Turkey (now).2,4,3
Eudes I Borel (?) Duc de Bourgogne was buried after 23 March 1103 at Abbaye de Cîteaux, Saint-Nicolas-les-Citeaux, Departement de la Côte-d'Or, Bourgogne, France,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1060
     DEATH     23 Mar 1103 (aged 42–43), Mersin, Turkey
     Duke of Burgundy. He was born around 1058 as the son of Henri de Bourgogne and Sibylle of Barcelona. He succeeded his brother Hugh I who retired to the Abbaye de Cluny in 1079. Together with Robert de Langres he founded the Abbaye de Citeaux. He joined the crusade in 1101 and was killed nears Tarsos in the following year.
     Family Members
     Children
          Hélie de Bourgogne 1080–1141
          Hugues II de Bourgogne 1085–1143
          Henri de Bourgogne 1087–1131
          Alix Borel of Burgundy 1095–1194
     BURIAL     Abbaye de Cîteaux, Saint-Nicolas-les-Citeaux, Departement de la Côte-d'Or, Bourgogne, France
     PLOT     Chapelle Saint Georges
     Created by: Lutetia
     Added: 11 Apr 2011
     Find A Grave Memorial 68212555.8
     Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Encyclopedie Genealogique des Maisons Souveraines du Monde, Paris, VIII 1963,IX 1964,XII 1966, Sirjean, Docteur Gaston. 11.
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 2:20.
3. Biogr. details drawn from Wikipedia.3


; Per Genealogy.EU: "Duc Eudes I Borel de Bourgogne (1078-1103), *ca 1058, +Tarsus 23.3.1103, bur Citeaux; m.1080 Sibylle de Bourgogne (*1065 +after 1103.)2"

GAV-25 EDV-25 GKJ-25.

; Per Med Lands:
     "EUDES de Bourgogne, son of HENRI de Bourgogne & his wife --- ([1060]-Tarsus, Cilicia 23 Mar 1103, bur Abbaye de Cîteaux, Côte-d'Or, Chapelle Saint-Georges). He is named as son of Henri by Orderic Vitalis[225]. "Hugo Burgundionum dux" made a donation to Cluny dated 19 Feb 1078, subscribed by "Oddonis fratris eius, Rotberti alterius fratris eius"[226]. He succeeded in 1079 on the abdication of his brother as EUDES I "Borel"[227] Duke of Burgundy. He led the expedition to Spain to fight the Moors in 1087, accompanied by his brothers Robert and Henri, but was defeated at Tudela in Navarre. "Ducem Burgundiæ Oddonem" restored property to Tournus abbey by "comitissa Cabillonensis filia Rotberti ducis", after the death of "mariti sui Hugonis comitis", adding that she subsequently became "Regina Galliciæ et Hispaniarum", by charter dated 5 Aug 1087 at León, subscribed by "Rotberti avunculi ducis fratris Reginæ"[228]. He made large donations to the monastery of Cîteaux in 1098. "Odo dux Burgundie", on the point of leaving for Jerusalem, donated property to Saint-Bénigne-de-Dijon "in memorie Hugonis ducis fratris mei…Robertus dux avus meus" by charter dated 1101[229]. He went to Palestine end-1100 with Etienne Comte de Blois and Hugues Comte de Vermandois, but was betrayed by Emperor Alexios and fell into the hands of the Muslims[230]. "Hugo dux Burgundie filius Odonis ducis" donated property to Saint-Bénigne-de-Dijon by charter dated 1102 which specifies that his father died "in itinere Hierosolimitano"[231], presumably misdated if the date of death of Duke Eudes is correctly stated here. The necrology of Cîteaux records the death "X Kal Apr" of "Odo dux Burgundie"[232].
     "m (1080) SIBYLLE de Bourgogne, daughter of GUILLAUME II "le Grand" Comte Palatin de Bourgogne & his wife Etiennette --- ([1065]-after 1103). "Sybilla uxor mea" witnessed the donation to Cluny of "Oddo dux Burgundie", also witnessed by "Wilelmus comes…genitor iam dicte uxoris mee"[233]. Her origin is also recorded by Orderic Vitalis[234]. Nun at the abbey of Fontevraud.
Med Lands cites:
[225] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. VI, Book XIII, p. 431.
[226] Cluny, Tome IV, 3518, p. 638.
[227] Named after his maternal great grandfather, if the theory concerning the Barcelona origin of the mother of Duke Eudes I is correct.
[228] Chifflet (1644), Preuves, p. 331.
[229] Dijon Saint-Bénigne II, 398, p. 173.
[230] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 561.
[231] Dijon Saint-Bénigne II, 402, p. 180.
[232] Obituaires de Lyon II, Diocèse de Chalon-sur-Saône, Abbaye chef d'ordre de Cîteaux, p. 608.
[233] Cluny, Tome IV, 3516, p. 632, dated "avant 1078" in this edition, although this would appear incorrect if Duke Eudes succeeded his brother in 1079.
[234] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. VI, Book XIII, p. 431.9


; Per Wikipedia:
     "Odo I (1060 – 1102[1]), also known as Eudes, surnamed Borel and called the Red, was duke of Burgundy between 1079 and 1103. Odo was the second son of Henry of Burgundy and grandson of Robert I. He became the duke following the abdication of his older brother, Hugh I, who retired to become a Benedictine monk at Cluny.[2]
     "He participated in the French expedition to the Iberian peninsula, started after the Battle of Sagrajas and ending with little accomplished in the failed Siege of Tudela in 1087.[3] Later, he participated in the Crusade of 1101, where he died, while in Asia Minor, in 1101. [4]
     "In a charter from his expedition to the Iberian peninsula, he admitted he had withheld property belonging to the abbey of Saint-Philibert de Tournus, an abbey patronized by his aunt Constance, wife of Alfonso VI of León and Castile. In 1101, when leaving on crusade, he made a gift and a will in favor of the abbey of Molesme. Also when leaving on crusade, he signed a charter of renunciation at St. Beningne de Dijon and another at the priory of Gevrey-Chambertin. [4]
     "An interesting incident is reported of Odo by an eyewitness, Eadmer, biographer of Anselm of Canterbury. While Saint Anselm was progressing through Odo's territory on his way to Rome in 1097, the bandit, expecting great treasure in the archbishop's retinue, prepared to ambush and loot it. Coming upon the prelate's train, the duke asked for the archbishop, whom they had not found. Anselm promptly came forward and took the duke by surprise, saying "My lord duke, suffer me to embrace thee." The flabbergasted duke immediately allowed the bishop to embrace him and offered himself as Anselm's humble servant.[citation needed]
Family
     "Odo married Sibylla of Burgundy (1065–1101),[5] daughter of William I, Count of Burgundy, and became the father of:
** Helie of Burgundy 1080–1141, wife of Bertrand of Toulouse and William III of Ponthieu[1]
** Florine of Burgundy[1] 1083–1097, wife of Sweyn the Crusader, prince of Denmark
** Hugh II of Burgundy 1084–1143[1]
** Henry 1087–1125,[1] a priest

References
1. Constance Brittain Bouchard, Sword, Miter, and Cloister: Nobility and the Church in Burgundy, 980–1198, (Cornell University Press, 1987), 256.
2. Constance Brittain Bouchard, Sword, Miter, and Cloister: Nobility and the Church in Burgundy, 980–1198, 129.
3. Spain in the Eleventh Century, Simon Barton, The New Cambridge Medieval History: Volume 4, C.1024-c.1198, Part II, ed. David Luscombe, Jonathan Riley-Smith, (Cambridge University Press, 2015), 187.
4. "The First Crusaders 1095-1131", Jonathan Riley-Smith
Constance Brittain Bouchard, Sword, Miter, and Cloister: Nobility and the Church in Burgundy, 980–1198, 275.
** Gwatkin, H.M., Whitney, J.P. (ed) The Cambridge Medieval History: Volume II—The Rise of the Saracens and the Foundations of the Western Empire. Cambridge University Press, 1926."10



; Per Genealogics:
     "Eudes I was born about 1060, the second son of Henri de Bourgogne and grandson of Robert I, duke of Burgundy. Eudes was duke from 1079 to 1103. He became duke following the abdication of his older brother Hugues I to became a Benedictine monk.
     "In 1080 Eudes married Sibylle de Bourgogne, daughter of Guillaume I, comte de Bourgogne. They had three sons and a daughter.
     "An interesting incident is reported of this robber baron by an eyewitness Eadmer, biographer of Anselm of Canterbury. While Saint Anselm was progressing through Eudes' territory on his way to Rome in 1097, the bandit, expecting great treasure in the archbishop's retinue, prepared to ambush and loot it. Coming upon the prelate's train, the duke asked for the archbishop, whom they had not found. Anselm promptly came forward and took the duke by surprise, saying: 'My lord duke, suffer me to embrace thee'. The flabbergasted duke immediately allowed the bishop to embrace him and offered himself as Anselm's humble servant.
     "Eudes was a participant in the ill-fated Crusade of 1101. He died on 23 March 1102 at Tarsus in Cilicia."3



Reference: Weis [1992] Line108-24.11 Eudes I Borel (?) Duc de Bourgogne was also known as Eudes I Duke of Burgundy.12 He was Duc de Bourgogne between 1078 and 1103.2,10 He was Crusader between 1101 and 1103.10

Family

Sibylle de Bourgogne Duchess of Burgundy b. c 1065, d. a 1103
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 164, de MONTGOMERY 4. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 9 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet9.html
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    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 108-24, p. 101. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  5. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Ivrea 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/ivrea/ivrea1.html
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sibylle de Bourgogne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120356&tree=LEO
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  8. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 06 December 2019), memorial page for Eudes I Borel de Bourgogne (1060–23 Mar 1103), Find A Grave Memorial no. 68212555, citing Abbaye de Cîteaux, Saint-Nicolas-les-Citeaux, Departement de la Côte-d'Or, Bourgogne, France ; Maintained by Lutetia (contributor 46580078), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/68212555/eudes_i-borel-de_bourgogne. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
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  10. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odo_I,_Duke_of_Burgundy. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  11. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7.
  12. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I3017
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Sibylle de Bourgogne Duchess of Burgundy1,2,3

F, #4813, b. circa 1065, d. after 1103
FatherGuillaume I "The Great" Testard (?) Comte de Bourgogne et de Macon4,2,1,5 b. c 1024, d. 12 Nov 1087
MotherEtiennette (?)6,2,1 b. c 1035, d. a 1092
ReferenceGAV25 EDV25
Last Edited20 Sep 2020
     Sibylle de Bourgogne Duchess of Burgundy was born circa 1065.1,2 She married Eudes I Borel (?) Duc de Bourgogne, son of Henri (?) Duke of Burgundy and Sibylle/Sybilla (?) of Barcelona, in 1080.7,8,1,2,5,9
Sibylle de Bourgogne Duchess of Burgundy died after 1103.1,2
     GAV-25 EDV-25 GKJ-25.

Sibylle de Bourgogne Duchess of Burgundy lived at Burgundy, France.10

; Per Med Lands: "SIBYLLE de Bourgogne ([1065]-after 1103). "Sybilla uxor mea" witnessed the donation to Cluny of "Oddo dux Burgundie", also witnessed by "Wilelmus comes…genitor iam dicte uxoris mee"[95]. Her origin is also recorded by Orderic Vitalis[96]. Nun at the abbey of Fontevraud. m (1080) EUDES I "Borel" Duke of Burgundy, son of HENRI de Bourgogne "le Damoiseau" & his wife --- ([1060]-Tarsus, Cilicia 23 Mar 1103, bur Abbaye de Cîteaux, Côte-d'Or, Chapelle Saint-Georges)."
Med Lands cites: [95] Cluny, Tome IV, 3516, p. 632, dated "avant 1078" in this edition, although this would appear incorrect as Duke Eudes only succeeded his brother in 1079.5

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: II 20.11

Reference: Weis [1992:101] Line 108-24.8 Sibylle de Bourgogne Duchess of Burgundy was also known as Matilda (Maude) of Burgundy.8 Sibylle de Bourgogne Duchess of Burgundy was also known as Matilda (Maude) Testard of Burgundy.12

Family

Eudes I Borel (?) Duc de Bourgogne b. c 1058, d. 23 Mar 1103
Children

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Ivrea 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/ivrea/ivrea1.html
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sibylle de Bourgogne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120356&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibylla_of_Burgundy,_Duchess_of_Burgundy. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
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    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 108-24, p. 101. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eudes I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020163&tree=LEO
  10. [S599] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 28 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 14, Ed. 1, family # 1829 (n.p.: Release date: October 20, 1997, unknown publish date).
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  12. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 164, de MONTGOMERY 4. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  13. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Toulouse 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/toulouse/toul1.html
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Gauthier Giffard Seigneur de Longueville1

M, #4814, b. circa 1030, d. 1084
FatherOsbern de Bolbec Seigneur of Longueville-sur-Scie2,3,4,1 b. bt 970 - 980, d. 1063
MotherWava (Aveline, Wevia, Gueuve) de Crépon5,3,1 b. s 956, d. WFT Est. 983-1037
ReferenceGAV25
Last Edited18 Apr 2020
     Gauthier Giffard Seigneur de Longueville married Ermengarde Flaitel, daughter of Gérard Flaitel.6,1,3 Gauthier Giffard Seigneur de Longueville was born circa 1030;
Boyer [2001:104] syas b. ca 978. Genealogics says b. ca 1030.7,3
Gauthier Giffard Seigneur de Longueville died in 1084.8,3
     GAV-25.

; Per Wikipedia:
     Walter Giffard, Lord of Longueville, Normandy (a.k.a. 'Giffard of Barbastre'), was a Norman baron, a Tenant-in-chief in England, a Christian knight who fought against the Saracens in Spain during the Reconquista and was one of the 15 or so known companions of William the Conqueror at the Battle of Hastings in 1066.
Life
     Walter at an unknown age was the son of Osbern de Bolbec, Lord of Longueville by a sister of Gunnor, Duchess of Normandy.[b] As such he was a cousin of William the Conqueror.[1]
     From the mid 1040s Walter's name appears among the loyal supporters of William the Conqueror.[2] Walter was at the Battle of Mortemer and was among the Norman barons who surprised and defeated Counts Odo and Renaud leading the French contingent attacking Normandy from the east.[3] In particular, he and another great vassal Robert of Eu encountered Odo's army encamped in the village of Mortemer with no sentries and the soldiers were drunk.[4] The Normans attacked the French while they slept, most being either killed or taken prisoner.[4] While Odo himself escaped, when King Henry I learned of the fate of his brother Odo's army he promptly withdrew his remaining forces and left Normandy.[4] In 1054 Walter was in charge of maintaining the siege of Arques castle, against William of Talou, who had rebelled against the Conqueror.[5]
     Like many other Norman and French knights during the eleventh and early twelfth centuries, Walter served as a Christian knight in Spain (c.?1064-65) against the Saracens.[6] His epithet le Barbastre[c] was earned when he took part in the Siege of Barbastro, an undertaking sanctioned by Pope Alexander II against the Moors in 1064, one of the more famous exploits of that time.[6] By the time of the Conquest, Walter had returned to Normandy bearing a gift of the King of Spain for Duke William, a magnificent war-horse. The same Spanish war-horse duke William called for on the morning of the Battle of Hastings.[6] The Spanish king in question was in all probability Sancho Ramírez of Aragon (1063–94) who was known for making friends and recruiting knights and soldiers from Northern France.[7] Walter was also one of the first, if not the first in England to go on pilgrimage to Santiago de Compostela, which he did after the siege of Barbastro and before returning to Normandy.[7]
     In early January 1066, after Duke William received news of the crowning of Harold Godwinson as king of England, he called together a meeting, the Council of Lillebonne, that included six of his key magnates, Walter Giffard being one of them.[8] After telling them of his plan to invade England and take the crown they all advised him they supported him fully but suggested he call a meeting of all his vassals, which William did.[8] In the preparation stage for the Battle of Hastings, Walter was one of the Norman magnates who provided ships for William's invasion fleet. In his case, he provided thirty.[9] Walter was one of two who, having been offered the privilege of carrying William's standard in the battle, respectfully refused. Although by this time an older warrior with white hair, he wanted both hands free to fight.[10] As a reward for his participation, Walter was granted the feudal barony of Long Crendon,[11] comprising 107 manors, 48 of which were in Buckinghamshire,[12] of which the caput was at Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire. The date of his death is not recorded, but his son Walter succeeded him before 1085.[13]
Family
Walter was married to Ermengarde, daughter of Gerard Flaitel.[13][12] Walter and Ermengarde were the parents of:
     Walter Giffard, 1st Earl of Buckingham.[13]
     William Giffard, Bishop of Winchester.[14][15]
     Rohese Giffard (d. aft. 1113), married Richard fitz Gilbert, Lord of Clare.[13]
Notes
     a. This Walter has been confused with his son, Walter Giffard, 1st Earl of Buckingham. Orderic confused reports of father and son while Freeman, not realizing that the elder Walter had died in the lifetime of the Conqueror, assumed William Rufus had created the first Walter as earl of Buckingham when in fact it was his son Walter who became the first earl. See: Records of Buckinghamshire, Vol 8, Ed. John Parker (Aylesbury: G.T. de Fraine, "Bucks Herald" Office, 1903), pp. 289-293.
     b. Several sisters of Gunnor are named by historical sources but these sources are in conflict regarding which of Gunnor's kin derived from which sister. Robert of Torigni identifies Walter's mother with Gunnor's sister Wevie, and though The Complete Peerage states the mother was instead Avelina without further explanation, more comprehensive studies of Gunnor's siblings accept Robert de Torigni's version. (G.H. White, "The Sisters and Nieces of Gunnor, Duchess of Normandy", The Genealogist, New Series, vol. 37 (1920-21), pp. 57–65 & 128–132; Elisabeth van Houts, "Robert of Torigni as Genealogist", Studies in Medieval History presented to R. Allen Brown, Boydell Press, 1989, pp. 215–233)
     c. As examples of some of the pitfalls found in translations of earlier works, Walter Giffard’s epithet de Barbastre appears in a verse by Geoffrey Gaimar. The first of his English translators guessed that De Barbastre referred to Walter being a barber. Geoffrey's second translator thought de Barbastre was a reference somehow to Walter's cousin, William the Conqueror, being a bastard. In fact, 'Walter de Barbastre' was an honorific gained at the successful siege of Barbastro in Aragon, near Saragossa. See: Archer, 'Giffard of Barbastre', EHR, 18, 70 (1903), pp. 304-05; Lomax, 'The First English Pilgrims to Santiago de Compostela', Studies in Medieval History: Presented to R.H.C.Davis Ed. Henry Mayr-Harting, Hambldeon (1985), 165-176.
References
     1. George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant Extinct or Dormant, Vol. II, Ed. Vicary Gibbs (London: The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., 1912), p. 386 note (a)
     2. David Crouch,The Normans (New York: Hambledon Continuum, 2002), p.64
     3. David C. Douglas, William the Conqueror (Berlekey and Los Angeles: The University of California Press, 1964), p. 68
     4. François Neveux, A Brief History of the Normans, Trans. Howard Curtis (London: Constable & Robinson, Ltd., 2008), p. 127
     5. David C. Douglas, William the Conqueror (Berlekey and Los Angeles: The University of California Press, 1964), p. 388
     6. T. A. Archer, 'Giffard of Barbastre', The English Historical Review, Vol. 18, No. 70 (Apr., 1903), p. 304
     7. D.W. Lomax, 'The First English Pilgrims to Santiago de Compostela', Studies in Medieval History: Presented to R.H.C.Davis, Ed. Henry Mayr-Harting and R.I. Moore (London: The Hambledon Press, 1985), p. 166
     8. Elisabeth M.C. van Houts, 'The Ship List of William the Conqueror', Anglo-Norman Studies X; Proceedings of the Battle Conference 1987, Ed. R. Allen Brown (Woodbridge UK: The Boydell Press, 1988), p. 161
     9. Anglo-Norman Studies X, Proceedings of the Battle Conference 1987, ed. R. Allen Brown, The Boydell Press, Woodbridge, UK 1988, Appendix 4. “Ships list of William the Conqueror”
     10. Edward A. Freeman, The History of the Norman Conquest of England, Vol. III (Oxford: At the Clarendon Press, 1869),p. 465
     11. Sanders, I.J. English Baronies: A Study of their Origin and Descent 1086-1327, Oxford, 1960, pp.62-4
     12. George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant Extinct or Dormant, Vol. II, Ed. Vicary Gibbs (London: The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., 1912), p. 387
     13. Detlev Schwennicke, Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge, Band III Teilband 4 (Marburg, Germany: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1989, Tafel 695
     14. K.S.B. Keats-Rohan, Domesday People, A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166, Volume I, Domesday Book (The Boydell Press, Woodbridge, 1999), p. 456
     15. C. Warren Hollister, 'The Strange Death of William Rufus', Speculum, Vol. 48, No. 4 (Oct., 1973), pp. 645-46."6

; Per Med Lands:
     "GAUTHIER Giffard (-before 1085). Guillaume de Jumièges records that "Gunnor" had “excepta Sainfria...duas sorores Wewam et Avelinam”, adding that “tertia...sororum Gunnoris comitissæ” [Aveline, from the context] married “Osberno de Bolebec”, by whom she had “Galterium Giffardum primum et Godefridum patrem Willelmi de Archis”[19]. “...Walterius Gyfardus...” subscribed the charter under which Guillaume Duke of Normandy donated the church of Arques to Saint-Wandrille, dated to [1035/55][20]. Seigneur de Longueville, Normandy. "…Walterius Giffardus…" witnessed the charter dated 29 Aug 1060 under which "milite…Richardo…fratribus Willelmo…atque Balduino" donated "Gausberti Villa" to Chartres Saint-Père[21]. The Brevis Relatio de Origine Willelmi Conquestoris records that "Waltero Giffardo" contributed 60 ships towards the invasion of England in 1066[22]. Orderic Vitalis names “...Galterius Giphardus et Radulphus Toenites...” among those who took part in the battle of Hastings[23]. He received grants of 107 lordships (48 in Buckinghamshire) as his reward[24]. Orderic Vitalis records that King William installed “Guillermum Osberni filium” at his new fortress at Winchester (“intra mœnia Guentæ”) and appointed him “vice sua toti regno versus Aquilonem”, while he granted “Doveram...totamque Cantiam” to “Odoni fratri suo”, and thus he entrusted “his duobus præfecturam Angliæ”, seconded by “Hugonem de Grentemaisnilio et Hugonem de Monteforti, Guillelmumque de Garenna”, dated to 1067[25]. Orderic Vitalis states that the king "gave [Walter Giffard] the county of Buckinghamshire", in the chronicler's description of post-conquest grants made by King William, without specifying that he was created earl[26].
     "m ERMENGARDE, daughter of GERARD Flaitel & his wife ---. Guillaume de Jumièges records that "Galterium Giffardum primum” married “unam filiarum Girardi Flatelli”[27]. [The necrology of Longueville records the death 13 May of “domina Hermengauda comitissa condam hujus loci” and her confirmation of the donation made by “illos de Saukervilla” of “molendino de Longa Villa”[28]. It is not certain whether this entry refers to the wife of Gauthier Giffard or to the wife of his grandson Walter Giffard.]
     "Gauthier & his wife had [five or more] children."
Med Lands cites:
[19] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber VIII, XXXVII, p. 312.
[20] Saint-Wandrille, Appendice, 17, p. 59.
[21] Chartres Saint-Père, Tome I, XXVII, p. 152.
[22] Brevis Relatio de Origine Willelmi Conquestoris, p. 22.
[23] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, XIV, p. 148.
[24] CP II 387.
[25] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber IV, I, p. 167.
[26] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. II, Book IV, p. 265.
[27] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber VIII, XXXVII, p. 312.
[28] RHGF, Tome XXIII, p. 434.1


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Per Genealogics: "Walter was the son of Osbern de Bolebec and Wevie/Aveline, possibly of the Crepon family. He was a companion of Hugh de Gournay in the abortive attempt of Edward, son of King Ethelred, to recover the crown of England in 1035. He was left by his cousin Duke William of Normandy in command of the forces blockading the castle of Arques in 1053. He was entrusted by William with the defence of the district of Caux, in which Longueville is situated, on the occasion of the invasion of Normandy by Henri I, king of France, in 1054. He joined William in the conquest of England, as the lord of Longueville, furnishing the fleet with thirty vessels and a hundred men, and is recorded as fighting at the Battle of Hastings. He founded the Priory of St. Michel de Bolbec in 1079. In 1084 he was appointed by William to superintend the compilation of the great survey of England, the Domesday Book. Walter died about 1085."3 He was Lord of Longueville.9

Reference: Genealogics cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. II 386.3 Gauthier Giffard Seigneur de Longueville was also known as Walter "the Elder" Giffard Lord of Longueville.10,7

Reference: Weis [1992] 184-1.11

; Per Wikipedia:
     "Walter Giffard, Lord of Longueville, Normandy (a.k.a. 'Giffard of Barbastre'), was a Norman baron, a Tenant-in-chief in England, a Christian knight who fought against the Saracens in Spain during the Reconquista and was one of the 15 or so known companions of William the Conqueror at the Battle of Hastings in 1066.
Life
     "Walter at an unknown age was the son of Osbern de Bolbec, Lord of Longueville by a sister of Gunnor, Duchess of Normandy.[b] As such he was a cousin of William the Conqueror.[1]
     "From the mid 1040s Walter's name appears among the loyal supporters of William the Conqueror.[2] Walter was at the Battle of Mortemer and was among the Norman barons who surprised and defeated Counts Odo and Renaud leading the French contingent attacking Normandy from the east.[3] In particular, he and another great vassal Robert of Eu encountered Odo's army encamped in the village of Mortemer with no sentries and the soldiers were drunk.[4] The Normans attacked the French while they slept, most being either killed or taken prisoner.[4] While Odo himself escaped, when King Henry I learned of the fate of his brother Odo's army he promptly withdrew his remaining forces and left Normandy.[4] In 1054 Walter was in charge of maintaining the siege of Arques castle, against William of Talou, who had rebelled against the Conqueror.[5]
     "Like many other Norman and French knights during the eleventh and early twelfth centuries, Walter served as a Christian knight in Spain (c.?1064-65) against the Saracens.[6] His epithet le Barbastre[c] was earned when he took part in the Siege of Barbastro, an undertaking sanctioned by Pope Alexander II against the Moors in 1064, one of the more famous exploits of that time.[6] By the time of the Conquest, Walter had returned to Normandy bearing a gift of the King of Spain for Duke William, a magnificent war-horse. The same Spanish war-horse duke William called for on the morning of the Battle of Hastings.[6] The Spanish king in question was in all probability Sancho Ramírez of Aragon (1063–94) who was known for making friends and recruiting knights and soldiers from Northern France.[7] Walter was also one of the first, if not the first in England to go on pilgrimage to Santiago de Compostela, which he did after the siege of Barbastro and before returning to Normandy.[7]
     "In early January 1066, after Duke William received news of the crowning of Harold Godwinson as king of England, he called together a meeting, the Council of Lillebonne, that included six of his key magnates, Walter Giffard being one of them.[8] After telling them of his plan to invade England and take the crown they all advised him they supported him fully but suggested he call a meeting of all his vassals, which William did.[8] In the preparation stage for the Battle of Hastings, Walter was one of the Norman magnates who provided ships for William's invasion fleet. In his case, he provided thirty.[9] Walter was one of two who, having been offered the privilege of carrying William's standard in the battle, respectfully refused. Although by this time an older warrior with white hair, he wanted both hands free to fight.[10] As a reward for his participation, Walter was granted the feudal barony of Long Crendon,[11] comprising 107 manors, 48 of which were in Buckinghamshire,[12] of which the caput was at Long Crendon, Buckinghamshire. The date of his death is not recorded, but his son Walter succeeded him before 1085.[13]
Family
     "Walter was married to Ermengarde, daughter of Gerard Flaitel.[13][12] Walter and Ermengarde were the parents of:
** Walter Giffard, 1st Earl of Buckingham.[13]
** William Giffard, Bishop of Winchester.[14][15]
** Rohese Giffard (d. aft. 1113), married Richard fitz Gilbert, Lord of Clare.[13]

Notes
a. This Walter has been confused with his son, Walter Giffard, 1st Earl of Buckingham. Orderic confused reports of father and son while Freeman, not realizing that the elder Walter had died in the lifetime of the Conqueror, assumed William Rufus had created the first Walter as earl of Buckingham when in fact it was his son Walter who became the first earl. See: Records of Buckinghamshire, Vol 8, Ed. John Parker (Aylesbury: G.T. de Fraine, "Bucks Herald" Office, 1903), pp. 289-293.
b. Several sisters of Gunnor are named by historical sources but these sources are in conflict regarding which of Gunnor's kin derived from which sister. Robert of Torigni identifies Walter's mother with Gunnor's sister Wevie, and though The Complete Peerage states the mother was instead Avelina without further explanation, more comprehensive studies of Gunnor's siblings accept Robert de Torigni's version. (G.H. White, "The Sisters and Nieces of Gunnor, Duchess of Normandy", The Genealogist, New Series, vol. 37 (1920-21), pp. 57–65 & 128–132; Elisabeth van Houts, "Robert of Torigni as Genealogist", Studies in Medieval History presented to R. Allen Brown, Boydell Press, 1989, pp. 215–233
c. As examples of some of the pitfalls found in translations of earlier works, Walter Giffard’s epithet de Barbastre appears in a verse by Geoffrey Gaimar. The first of his English translators guessed that De Barbastre referred to Walter being a barber. Geoffrey's second translator thought de Barbastre was a reference somehow to Walter's cousin, William the Conqueror, being a bastard. In fact, 'Walter de Barbastre' was an honorific gained at the successful siege of Barbastro in Aragon, near Saragossa. See: Archer, 'Giffard of Barbastre', EHR, 18, 70 (1903), pp. 304-05; Lomax, 'The First English Pilgrims to Santiago de Compostela', Studies in Medieval History: Presented to R.H.C.Davis Ed. Henry Mayr-Harting, Hambldeon (1985), 165-176.
References
1. George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant Extinct or Dormant, Vol. II, Ed. Vicary Gibbs (London: The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., 1912), p. 386 note (a)
2. David Crouch,The Normans (New York: Hambledon Continuum, 2002), p.64
3. David C. Douglas, William the Conqueror (Berlekey and Los Angeles: The University of California Press, 1964), p. 68
4. François Neveux, A Brief History of the Normans, Trans. Howard Curtis (London: Constable & Robinson, Ltd., 2008), p. 127
5. David C. Douglas, William the Conqueror (Berlekey and Los Angeles: The University of California Press, 1964), p. 388
6. T. A. Archer, 'Giffard of Barbastre', The English Historical Review, Vol. 18, No. 70 (Apr., 1903), p. 304
7. D.W. Lomax, 'The First English Pilgrims to Santiago de Compostela', Studies in Medieval History: Presented to R.H.C.Davis, Ed. Henry Mayr-Harting and R.I. Moore (London: The Hambledon Press, 1985), p. 166
8. Elisabeth M.C. van Houts, 'The Ship List of William the Conqueror', Anglo-Norman Studies X; Proceedings of the Battle Conference 1987, Ed. R. Allen Brown (Woodbridge UK: The Boydell Press, 1988), p. 161
9. Anglo-Norman Studies X, Proceedings of the Battle Conference 1987, ed. R. Allen Brown, The Boydell Press, Woodbridge, UK 1988, Appendix 4. “Ships list of William the Conqueror”
10. Edward A. Freeman, The History of the Norman Conquest of England, Vol. III (Oxford: At the Clarendon Press, 1869),p. 465
11. Sanders, I.J. English Baronies: A Study of their Origin and Descent 1086-1327, Oxford, 1960, pp.62-4
12. George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant Extinct or Dormant, Vol. II, Ed. Vicary Gibbs (London: The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., 1912), p. 387
13. Detlev Schwennicke, Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge, Band III Teilband 4 (Marburg, Germany: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1989, Tafel 695
14. K.S.B. Keats-Rohan, Domesday People, A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166, Volume I, Domesday Book (The Boydell Press, Woodbridge, 1999), p. 456
15. C. Warren Hollister, 'The Strange Death of William Rufus', Speculum, Vol. 48, No. 4 (Oct., 1973), pp. 645-46."6

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Per Genealogics: He joined William in the conquest of England, as the lord of Longueville, furnishing the fleet with thirty vessels and a hundred men, and is recorded as fighting at the Battle of Hastings."3

Family 1

Child

Family 2

Ermengarde Flaitel
Children

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#ErmengardeFlaitelMWalterGiffard. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Osbern de Bolbec: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00140014&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Walter Giffard, Lord of Longueville: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00294144&tree=LEO
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#OsbernBolebec
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Wevie|Aveline: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00140015&tree=LEO
  6. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Giffard,_Lord_of_Longueville. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  7. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 104, GIFFARD 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  8. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  9. [S599] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 28 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 14, Ed. 1, family # 1829 (n.p.: Release date: October 20, 1997, unknown publish date).
  10. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 51, de CLARE 4.
  11. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), Line 184-1. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabel Giffard: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00453337&tree=LEO
  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Giffard: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00582017&tree=LEO
  14. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes d'Eu, p. 10. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  15. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Rohese Giffard: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106211&tree=LEO

Ermengarde Flaitel1,2

F, #4815
FatherGérard Flaitel3,2 d. c 1047
ReferenceGAV25 EDV25
Last Edited8 Mar 2020
     Ermengarde Flaitel married Gauthier Giffard Seigneur de Longueville, son of Osbern de Bolbec Seigneur of Longueville-sur-Scie and Wava (Aveline, Wevia, Gueuve) de Crépon.1,2,4
     ; Weis AR 184-1.

; Per Med Lands:
     "ERMENGARDE . Guillaume de Jumièges records that "Galterium Giffardum primum” married “unam filiarum Girardi Flatelli”[86]. [The necrology of Longueville records the death 13 May of “domina Hermengauda comitissa condam hujus loci” and her confirmation of the donation made by “illos de Saukervilla” of “molendino de Longa Villa”[87]. It is not certain whether this entry refers to the wife of Gauthier Giffard or to the wife of his son Walter Giffard.]
     "m GAUTHIER Giffard, son of OSBERN de Bolbec & his [first/second wife [Aveline] ---/Hawise ---] (-before 1085)."
Med Lands cites:
[86] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber VIII, XXXVII, p. 312.
[87] RHGF, Tome XXIII, p. 434.2
Ermengarde Flaitel was also known as Agnes Flaitel Weis 184-1 calls her Agnes Flatel. Boyer (GIFFARD 3, p. 104) calls her Emmengard Flaitel. GAV-25 EDV-25 GKJ-25.
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From Wikipedia:
     Gerard Flaitel († c.?1047) was a Norman knight and a ' most powerful lord in Normandy at the time of the Richards' according to Orderic Vitalis.
Life
     Gerard was a Norman baron with substantial estates in the Pays de Caux, the Hiemois, the Evrecin and Risle valley.[1] He was a vassal of William of Talou in Arques.[2]
     In 1035, when Robert I, Duke of Normandy left on a pilgrimage to Jerusalem, Gerard Flaitel was one of his companions.[3] In the spring of 1035 the group left Normandy probably taking the favored route through the Danube river basin to Constantinople.[4] Duke Robert obtained permission for him and his retinue to continue on to Muslim-controlled Jerusalem.[4] In Turkey Robert paid the required mussella (pilgrim tax).[3] They arrived in time to spend Holy Week in Jerusalem.[3] On their return through Asia Minor, Duke Robert fell ill while they were in Nicaea, and died there about 2 July. As he lay dying Gerard was asked to take possession of a Holy relic Robert acquired in Jerusalem, reputedly a finger-bone of Saint Stephen, and to make a gift of it to the abbey or monastery of his choosing.[3] Gerard returned to Normandy and became a monk at the Abbey of St. Wandrille taking the relic with him.[3] He died after 1047.[5]

Family
     While the name of his wife (or wives) is not known Gerard Flaitel had the following children:
          William Flaitel, Bishop of Évreux († 1066).[6]
          Ermengarde, wife of Walter Giffard, Lord of Longueville.[6]
          Basilla, wife of Ralph de Gacé, son of Robert, Archbishop of Rouen and secondly of Hugh de Gournay.[7]
          Anscherius[8]
References
     1. Véronique Gazeau, Normannia Monastica (xe–XIIe Siècle) (Caen : Publications du CRAHM, 2007), p. 492
     2. Ordericus Vitalis, The Ecclesiastical History of England and Normandy, Trans. Robert Forester, Vol. I (London: Henry G. Bohn, 1853), p. 400
     3. David Crouch, The Normans (London: Hambledon Continuum, 2007), p. 54
     4. David Crouch, The Normans (London: Hambledon Continuum, 2007), p. 53
     5. David Douglas, 'The Norman Episcopate before the Norman Conquest', Cambridge Historical Journal, Vol. 13, No. 2 (1957), p. 102 n. 15
     6. Detlev Schwennicke, Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge, Band III, Tielband 4 (Marburg, Germany: J. A. Stargardt, 1989), Tafel 695
     7. K.S.B. Keats-Rohan, Domesday People, A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166, Volume I, Domesday Book (Woodbridge: The Boydell Press, 1999), p. 263
     8. T.J. Pettigrew, 'On the House of Gournay', Collectanea Archæologica: Communications made to the British Archaeological Association, Vol. II (1871). p. 184."3

Family

Gauthier Giffard Seigneur de Longueville b. c 1030, d. 1084
Children

Citations

  1. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Giffard,_Lord_of_Longueville. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#ErmengardeFlaitelMWalterGiffard. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S1953] Wikipedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerard_Flaitel
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Walter Giffard, Lord of Longueville: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00294144&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Giffard: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00582017&tree=LEO

André I de Ramerupt Sire de Ramerupt et d'Arcis-sur-Aube1,2

M, #4816, d. after 1118
FatherHildouin IV de Montdidier comte de Montdidier, seigneur de Ramerupt, d’Arcis et de Breteuil, comte de Roucy3,4,5,2 b. c 1010, d. c 1063
MotherAdele (Adelix) de Roucy4,5,2,6 b. c 1014, d. 1062
ReferenceEDV26
Last Edited8 Nov 2020
     André I de Ramerupt Sire de Ramerupt et d'Arcis-sur-Aube married Adèle/Adelisa (?);
His 1st wife.4,7,5,2 André I de Ramerupt Sire de Ramerupt et d'Arcis-sur-Aube married Guisemonde (?);
His 2nd wife; Her 2nd husband.8,5,2
André I de Ramerupt Sire de Ramerupt et d'Arcis-sur-Aube died after 1118.9,4,5
     He was Sire de Ramerupt et d'Arcis-sur-Aube.9

André I de Ramerupt Sire de Ramerupt et d'Arcis-sur-Aube lived at Roucy, France.10 EDV-26.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 677.4

; Per Racines et Histoire: "André de Ramerupt ° ~1040/55 + après 1118seigneur d’Arcis-sur-Aubeet de Ramerupt
     ép. 1) ~1078 Adelisa (Adélaïde, Alix)° ~1045/65 + après 1082
     ép. 2) Guisemode (soeur de Baudouin, moine à Molesme ; veuve de Hugues, seigneur de Pleurs.)11"

; Per Med Lands:
     "ANDRE de Ramerupt (-after 1118). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Ebalus…de Roceio et Andreas de Ramerut et Arceis comites" as the two sons of "Hilduinus de Ramerut" & his wife Adelaide[636]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Ebalum comitem…et Andream comitem de Ramerut et filias" as children of "comes Helduinus [et] Adelaide"[637]. Seigneur de Ramerupt et d'Arcis-sur-Aube. "Duo fratres Ebolus et Andreas et uxores nostre Sibilla et Adelisa et cognatus noster Hugo comes de Domno Martino uxorque eius Rothaidis" donated the church of Ramerupt Sainte-Marie to Marmoutier by charter dated 1082, which also records that "post hæc comes Andreas" donated "molendinorum suorum de Grandi Prato" with the consent of "uxore sua Guindesmode et filiis duobus Hugone…et Oliverio"[638].
     "m firstly ADELISA, daughter of --- (-after 1082). "Duo fratres Ebolus et Andreas et uxores nostre Sibilla et Adelisa et cognatus noster Hugo comes de Domno Martino uxorque eius Rothaidis" donated property to the church of Ramerupt Sainte-Marie by charter dated 1082[639].
     "m secondly as her second husband, GUISEMODE, widow of HUGUES Seigneur de Pleurs, sister of BAUDOUIN Monk at Molesme, daughter of ---. "Duo fratres Ebolus et Andreas et uxores nostre Sibilla et Adelisa et cognatus noster Hugo comes de Domno Martino uxorque eius Rothaidis" donated property to the church of Ramerupt Sainte-Marie by charter dated 1082, which also records that "post hæc comes Andreas" donated "molendinorum suorum de Grandi Prato" with the consent of "uxore sua Guindesmode et filiis duobus Hugone…et Oliverio"[640]. The primary source which confirms her origin and first marriage has not yet been identified."
Med Lands cites:
[636] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1063, MGH SS XXIII, p. 794.
[637] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 13, MGH SS XIII, p. 254.
[638] Arbois de Jubainville ‘Les premiers seigneurs de Ramerupt’ (1861), Pièces Justificatives, I, p. 451.
[639] Arbois de Jubainville ‘Les premiers seigneurs de Ramerupt’ (1861), Pièces Justificatives, I, p. 451.
[640] Arbois de Jubainville ‘Les premiers seigneurs de Ramerupt’ (1861), Pièces Justificatives, I, p. 451.5


; Per Weis: “Andre I de Rameru and d'Arcis-sur-Aube, d. 1118; m. (1) Adele; m. (2) Guisemode, founded Abbey de Basefontaine, 1143, widow of Hugues of Pleurs (Theodore Evergates, Feudal Society in the Baillage of Troyes under the Counts of Champagne (1975), 196-198).”.2

Family 1

Guisemonde (?)

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, André: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174689&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), Line 151A-23, p. 147. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hildouin IV de Montdidier: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020522&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Andre: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174689&tree=LEO
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamdampjo.htm#HilduinIVMontdidierdied1063. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adèle (Alice) de Roucy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020523&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adèle: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174690&tree=LEO
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guisemonde: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00427042&tree=LEO
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Andre: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174689&tree=LEO
  10. [S599] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 28 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 14, Ed. 1, family # 1829 (n.p.: Release date: October 20, 1997, unknown publish date).
  11. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Montdidier, Comtes de Dammartin & Seigneurs de Rameruptp. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Montdidier-Dammartin-Ramerupt.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  12. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brienne 1 page (de Brienne Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne1.html
  13. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed, Line 151A-24, p. 147.
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alix: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028303&tree=LEO
  15. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamdampjo.htm#AlixMontdidierMErardIBrienne
  16. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, NN de Ramerupt: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174685&tree=LEO

Gilbert (Giselbert) I Crispin (?) Comte de Brionne, Comte d'Eu1,2,3

M, #4817, b. circa 979, d. March 1040
FatherGeoffroy de Brionne Comte d'Eu, Comte de Brionne4,5,2,6,7,8,9 b. c 953, d. c 1015
MotherHelvise? (?) de Guines?10 b. c 926
ReferenceGAV25 EDV25
Last Edited25 Aug 2020
     Gilbert (Giselbert) I Crispin (?) Comte de Brionne, Comte d'Eu married Gunnora (?) d'Anjou, daughter of Baldric (?) and (?) de Brionne.11,10 Gilbert (Giselbert) I Crispin (?) Comte de Brionne, Comte d'Eu was born circa 979 at France;
Racines et Histoire says b. ca 979; Genealogics says b. ca 1010.8,12
Gilbert (Giselbert) I Crispin (?) Comte de Brionne, Comte d'Eu died in March 1040 at near Eschafour.13,12,8
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 156.12 GAV-25 EDV-25 GKJ-25.

; Per Genealogics:
     "Gilbert was the son of Geoffrey de Brionne, comte d'Eu. Under Robert 'the Devil', duke of Normandy, son of Geoffrey's brother Richard II 'the Good', duke of Normandy and father of William 'the Conqueror', Gilbert assumed the title of count of Brionne while not relinquishing his claim to Eu. When Guillaume I, comte d'Hiémois, comte d'Eu died shortly before 1040, Gilbert assumed the land and title.
     "When Robert 'the Devil', duke of Normandy, Gilbert's cousin, died in 1035 his illegitimate son William, known to history as William the Conqueror, inherited his father's title. Several leading Normans, including Gilbert de Brionne, Osbern the Seneschal and Alan of Brittany, became William's guardians. A number of Norman barons including Raoul de Gacé would not accept an illegitimate son as their leader. In 1040 an attempt was made to kill William but the plot failed and William survived.
     "Later that year, Gilbert was murdered while he was riding near Eschafour. It is believed two of his killers were Ralph de Wacy and Robert de Vitot, the latter also implicated in the plot to kill William. Fearing they might meet their father's fate, his sons Richard and Baldwin were conveyed by their friends to the court of Baudouin V, count of Flanders. William was forced to accept Ralph de Wacy as his guardian and leader of his armed forces. William was unhappy with this as Ralph had been involved in the plot against him, as well as being responsible for the murder of Gilbert.
     "When William married Count Baudouin's daughter Matilda of Flanders in 1053, he restored to Gilbert's sons the fiefs which in their absence he had seized and appropriated, although he did not invest them with either Brionne or Eu, or a comital title. William granted the lordships of Bienfaite and Orbec to Richard, and Le Sap and Meules to Baldwin. While Gilbert's descendants later pressed a claim for Brionne, it was never restored."12


; Per Racines et Histoire: "Gilbert «Crespin» de Brionne ° ~979 + 03/1040 (ass. par son cousin Raoul de Waco (Vacé), fils de l’Archevêque de Rouen et par Robert FitzGiroie) comte d’Eu et de Brionne, proche conseiller de Guillaume II «Le Roux», Roi d’Angleterre, envahit le Vimeu où il est battu par Enguerrand de Ponthieu ép.?"8


; Per Med Lands:
     "GILBERT de Brionne "Crespin" ([979/1000]-murdered [Mar] [1040]). Guillaume of Jumièges records that “comes Gislebertus filius Godefridus comitis” inherited his father’s county before he was killed[925]. Named as son of "Godfrey" by Orderic Vitalis[926]. Comte d'Eu. "Gislebertus filius Godefridi comitis…" witnessed the charter dated to [1030] under which Robert II Duke of Normandy confirmed rights of Mont Saint-Michel[927]. Orderic Vitalis records that “tempore Rodberti ducis Gislebertus comes Brionniæ” invaded “in pagum Vimmacensem” [Vimeu] but was repulsed by “Ingelrannus Pontivi comes”, adding that “miles...Herluinus” fled the battle and afterwards founded “in patrimonio suo in loco...Beccus...cœnobium sanctæ Dei genitricis Mariæ”[928]. Le Prévost dates this event to “antérieure à 1034, époque présumée de la fondation du Bec”[929]. He was appointed guardian of Guillaume II Duke of Normandy after the death in 1040 of Alain III Duke of Brittany[930]. He was murdered by his cousin Raoul de Waco, after which Brionne was kept by Guillaume II Duke of Normandy[931]. On the other hand, another passage in Orderic Vitalis records that “Rodbertus de Witot” had been exiled “propter occisionem Gisleberti comitis”[932]. Robert of Torigny names "Radulfo de Waceio filio Roberti archiepiscopi Rothomagensis" as murderer of "Gislebertus filius…Godefridi"[933]. Guillaume of Jumièges records that “Gislebertus comes Ocensis filius Godefridi comitis...tutor Willelmi pueri sed domini...cum Fulcoio filio Geroii“ were killed while riding with “Wascelino de Ponte Erchenfredi”, adding that the crime was committed by “Odonis Grossi et audacis Roberti filii Geroii” at the instigation of “Rodulfus de Waceio filii Roberti archiepiscopi”[934]. The necrology of Saint-Nicaise de Meulan records the death of "Gislebertus comes Briognensis", undated but listed among other deaths recorded in Mar[935].
     "m ---. The name of Gilbert's wife is not known.
     "Gilbert & his wife had four children"
Med Lands cites:
[925] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber IV, XVIII, p. 247.
[926] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. III, Book V, p. 89, and Vol. IV Book VIII, p. 209.
[927] Lambert ‘Les anciens vicomtes de Bayeux’, p. 252.
[928] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, I, p. 13.
[929] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, p. 13 footnote (2).
[930] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. III, Book V, p. 89.
[931] William of Malmesbury, 230, p. 218, and Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. IV, Book VIII, p. 209.
[932] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, VIII, p. 104.
[933] Robert de Torigny, Vol. I, 965, p. 25.
[934] Willelmi Gemmetencis Historiæ (Duchesne, 1619), Liber VII, II, p. 268.
[935] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Prieuré de Saint-Nicaise de Meulan, p. 239.14
He was Count of Brionne at Normandy, France.15 He was benefactor of the Abbey of Bec at Abbey of Bec, Normandy, France.5

Family 1

Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 51, de CLARE 3. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gilbert: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106208&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntac.htm#GilbertICrispin. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
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    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 157-1, p. 188. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
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  11. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I42033
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    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 148-25, p. 130. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
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Sir Robert de Harcourt of Stanton-Harcourt, co. Oxford1,2,3

M, #4818, b. circa 1152, d. 1202
FatherYves (Ivo) d'Harcourt4,2,5,3 b. 1130, d. 1180
ReferenceGAV23 EDV23
Last Edited21 Mar 2004
     Sir Robert de Harcourt of Stanton-Harcourt, co. Oxford married Isabelle/Millicent de Camville, daughter of Richard de Camville of Stanton and Milicent de Réthel.4,3,6 Sir Robert de Harcourt of Stanton-Harcourt, co. Oxford was born circa 1152 at Bosworth, Leicestershire, England.7
Sir Robert de Harcourt of Stanton-Harcourt, co. Oxford died in 1202.4,2,3
     Sir Robert de Harcourt of Stanton-Harcourt, co. Oxford lived at Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire, England.8

; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Histoire et Genealogie de la Maison de Harcourt 1974, Georges Martin, Reference: 221
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: X 139
3. Ancestor List of Humphrey Prideaux 1999 , Ian Dundas Fettes, Reference: 6366.3 GAV-23 EDV-23 GKJ-24.

; Sir ROBERT de HARCOURT; Sheriff Leics and Warwicks 1199, 1201 and 1202; m Millicent, only child of Richard de Camville (possibly the Richard de Camville who was half-bro of William de Camville, f of the 1st Lord (Baron) Camville/Canville of the notional 24 Jan 1295 cr; see also above against the Sir Richard Vernon who d Feb 1322/3), of Stanton, Oxon, thus acquiring that Manor, which became known subsequently as Stanton Harcourt, and d 1202.4

Sir Robert de Harcourt of Stanton-Harcourt, co. Oxford was also known as Roger de Harcourt.7

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 180-181, de NEWBURGH 3. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
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  4. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Vernon, Baron Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Yves d'Harcourt: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028887&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabelle/Millicent de Camville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028889&tree=LEO
  7. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I1309
  8. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Warwick, Brooke Family Page.
  9. [S599] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 28 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 14, Ed. 1, family # 1829 (n.p.: Release date: October 20, 1997, unknown publish date).
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir William Harcourt, of Stanton Harcourt: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028893&tree=LEO
  11. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Beaumont 5 page (The Sires de Beaumont-le-Roger): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/beaumont/beaumont5.html
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alice de Harcourt: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028991&tree=LEO

Isabelle/Millicent de Camville1,2,3

F, #4819, b. circa 1152
FatherRichard de Camville of Stanton3,4 b. c 1127, d. c 1170
MotherMilicent de Réthel3,5 b. bt 1121 - 1123, d. a 1155
ReferenceGAV23 EDV23
Last Edited3 Feb 2008
     Isabelle/Millicent de Camville married Sir Robert de Harcourt of Stanton-Harcourt, co. Oxford, son of Yves (Ivo) d'Harcourt.1,6,3 Isabelle/Millicent de Camville was born circa 1152 at Bosworth, Leicestershire, England.7
     ; Millicent, only child of Richard de Camville (possibly the Richard de Camville who was half-bro of William de Camville, f of the 1st Lord (Baron) Camville/Canville of the notional 24 Jan 1295 c.1 GAV-23 EDV-23. Isabelle/Millicent de Camville was also known as Isabel de Camville.1,3

; Leo van de Pas cites: Histoire et Genealogie de la Maison de Harcourt 1974, Georges Martin, Reference: 221.3

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Vernon, Baron Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Harcourt 1 page (Harcourt family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/harcourt/harcourt1.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabelle/Millicent de Camville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028889&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Richard de Camville, of Stanton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028890&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Milicent de Rethel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00199646&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Robert Harcourt, of Stanton Harcourt: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028888&tree=LEO
  7. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I1309
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  9. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Beaumont 5 page (The Sires de Beaumont-le-Roger): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/beaumont/beaumont5.html
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Aubry/Alberic II de Mâcon Comte de Mâcon1,2,3,4

M, #4820, b. between 935 and 940, d. 975
FatherLeotald (?) Count of Mâcon and Besancon5,1,6,7 d. 17 Sep 965
MotherErmengarde de Châlons7,3,4 d. a 935
ReferenceGAV27
Last Edited27 Aug 2020
     Aubry/Alberic II de Mâcon Comte de Mâcon was born between 935 and 940 at Macon, Seine-Et-Loire, France; Genealogics says b. ca 950; Med Lands says b. 935/40.6,7 He married Ermentrude/Irmgard de Roucy Countess of Rheims, daughter of Renaud/Ragenold/Ragnvald (?) comte de Roucy & Rheims and Alberade (?) de Lorraine, circa 970;
Her 1st husband. Genealogics says m. ca 970; Med Lands says m. bef 971.1,8,9,10,6,11
Aubry/Alberic II de Mâcon Comte de Mâcon died in 975.12
Aubry/Alberic II de Mâcon Comte de Mâcon died between 981 and 982 at France; Genealogics says d. aft 14 Jan 971 or aft 12 Nov 981.1,6
     ; Per Racines et Histoire (Roucy): “Ermentrude (Hermentrudis) de Roucy ° ~947/52 + entre 05/10/1002 et 1004 (citée charte d’Aubri, comte de Mâcon, du 14/01/971 à Cluny)
     ép. 1) dès 971 (~967 ou ~01/971) Aubri II (Albéric) de Salins (ou de Mâcon), vicomte d’Orléans ° 935/40 + un 17/11/ dès 981/82 (fils de Létaud, comte de Mâcon, et d’Ermengarde de Chalon)
     ép. 2) dès 981/82 Othon (Otto, Otte) Guillaume de Bourgogne ° 958/59 ou 960/62 + 21/09/1026 (Dijon) comte de Bourgogne, Macon et Nevers (fils d’Adalbert, Roi associé en Italie, et de Gerberge de Chalon)”.13

; Per Med Lands:
     "ERMENTRUDE ([947/52]-[5 Oct 1002/1004]). "Ermentrudis" is named as daughter of "Alberada filia …Gerbergæ" in the Continuator of Flodoard, which does not name either her father or her husband but specifies that Ermentrudis was the mother of Agnes (Ctss de Poitou)[362], the latter naming both her parents in charters[363]. Her birth date range is estimated on the basis of her son by her first marriage being named in 971. "Ermentrudis conjuge sua" consented to the donation of land "in Aponiaco villa" by "Albericus comes Matisconensis" to Cluny by charter dated 14 Jan 971[364]. The date of her first marriage is indicated by her absence from the charter of "Albericus comes Matisconensis" dated Mar 966[365]. The genealogy of the Comtes de Mâcon, included in the cartulary of Saint-Vincent de Mâcon, records the marriage of "dominus Guillelmus comes" with the wife of "Albericus filius Leotaldi comitis"[366]. Rodulfus Glaber states that "Willemus, Henrici ducis priuignus, Adalberti Longobardorum ducis filius" married the sister of "Brunone Lingonensi episcopo" who supported him in his rebellion against the king [Robert II][367]. Ermentrude's date of death is indicated by the Chronicle of St Bénigne de Dijon which records a donation by "Otto comes cognomento Willelmus" with "filii eius Rainaldi" dated 1004 "pro anima Hinrici Ducis, qui eum loco filii adoptavit et genitricis sue Gerberge uxoris predicti Ducis, ac filii sui Widonis et Hermintrudis coniugis"[368].
     "m firstly (before 971) AUBRY [II] Comte de Mâcon, son of LETAUD Comte de Mâcon & his first wife Ermengarde [de Chalon] ([935/40]-after 17 Nov [before 981/82][369]).
     "m secondly (before [981/82]) as his first wife, OTHON GUILLAUME Comte de Mâcon et de Nevers [Bourgogne-Comté], son of ADALBERTO associate-King of Italy & his wife Gerberge de Chalon ([960/2]-Dijon 21 Sep 1026)."
Med Lands cites:
[362] Flodoard Addit codex 1 (inserted after 966), MGH SS III, p. 407.
[363] Cluny, Tome III, 2742, p. 765, cited in Bouchard (1987), p. 270.
[364] Cluny, Tome II, 1291, p. 368.
[365] Cluny, Tome II, 1198, p. 280.
[366] Mâcon Saint-Vincent, 7, p. 6.
[367] Rodulfus Glaber, III.6, p. 105.
[368] Chronique de Saint-Bénigne de Dijon, p. 163.
[369] When his wife's second husband first appears as Comte de Mâcon, Cluny, Tome II, 1291, p. 368, and 1580, p. 624, cited in Bouchard (1987), p. 264.10
GAV-27.

; This is the same person as ”Aubry II (Albericus)” at The Henry Project, and as ”Aubry II de Mâcon” at Wikipédia (FR).4,3



; NB: There is disagreement concerning the mother of Alberic/Aubri II.
     Genealogics says that she was his father's 3rd wife, Richilde d'Autun.
     The Henry Project, Med Lands and Wikipédia (Fr.) all say that she was his father's 1st wife, Ermengarde de Chalons. The Henry Project reports: "In a charter of January 962, count Aubry mentions his parents Liétaud and Ermengarde ["ego Albericus, gratia Dei comes... pro remedio animæ meæ ac patris mei Leotaldi ac matris meæ Ermengardis..." cart. Cluny, 2: 215 (#1124)]."
Conclusion: I have changed my lineage for Alberic/Aubri II to match the majority view (as counted here). GA Vaut.6,7,3,14

; Per Genealogics:
     “Aubry was the son of Liétaud II de Mâcon, comte de Bourgogne, comte de Mâcon, and his third wife Richilde/Richeut d'Autun. In 966 he succeeded his father as comte de Mâcon.
     “About 970 Aubry married Ermentrud/Irmgard de Roucy, daughter of Ragenold/Renaud, comte de Roucy, and Alverade de Lorraine. They had two sons who became churchmen, and a daughter Béatrix who would have progeny, marrying Hugues du Perche.
     “Aubry was not cited after 982. His widow inherited the county of Mâcon and married Eudes Guillaume, comte de Bourgogne, who became comte de Mâcon in her name. They had a son Renaud I and three daughters who would have progeny.”.6

Reference: Gordon Banks cites: Marlyn Lewis, The Ancestry of Elizabeth of York (Arvada, CO: HT Communications, 1999).1

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 156.
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 439.
3. Henry Project , Baldwin, Stewart.15


; Per Med Lands:
     "AUBRY [Alberic] [II] de Mâcon ([935/40]-[10 Sep], after 17 Nov [before 981/82]). The genealogy of the Comtes de Mâcon, included in the cartulary of Saint-Vincent de Mâcon, names "Albericus filius Letaudi comitis"[42]. "Letaudus comes et uxor mea Berta" donated property to Saint-Vincent-de-Mâcon for the souls of "patris mei Alberici…et matris mee Tolane…Irmengardis quondam uxoris sue" by charter dated to [941] subscribed by "Alberici filii sui"[43]. "Albericus" is named as son of Letaud in the latter's donations to Cluny dated 948 and [955][44]. "Albericus Matisconensis comes" names "Letaudi patris mei…[et] Ermengardis matris mee" in his donation of "ecclesiæ sancti Germani Ipgiacensis" to Cluny by charter dated Jan 962. He succeeded his father as Comte de Mâcon. "Albericus comes" donated property "in pago Matisconensi in villa…Lancus", which came to him from "Iohanne episcopo cum sorore sua Rotrude", to the abbey of Tournus by charter dated 14 Jan 971, signed by "Leotaldi, Alberici, Ermentrudis coniuge sua…"[45]. "Albericus comes" donated property "in pago Matisconensis in villa… Aponiacus" to Cluny by charter dated 14 Jan 971, subscribed by "Ermentrudis coniuge sua, Leotaldi, Umberti, Odoldrici…"[46]. The necrology of Mâcon Cathedral records the death "IV Id Sep" of "Albericus comes"[47], although this entry could alternatively refer to Count Aubry I (see above).
     "m ([Mar 966/14 Jan 971]) as her first husband, ERMENTRUDE, daughter of [RAGENOLD Comte de Roucy] & his wife Alberade of Lotharingia ([947/52]-[5 Oct 1002/1004]). "Ermentrudis conjuge sua" subscribed the charter dated 14 Jan 971 under which "Albericus comes Matisconensis" donated property "in Aponiaco villa" to Cluny[48]. Her marriage date is indicated by her absence from the charter of "Albericus comes Matisconensis" dated Mar 966[49]. "Ermentrudis" is named as daughter of "Alberada filia …Gerbergæ" in the Continuator of Flodoard, which does not name either her father or her husband but specifies that Ermentrudis was the mother of Agnes (Ctss de Poitou)[50]. Bouchard highlights the absence of proof that the husband of Alberade of Lotharingia was Ragenold Comte de Roucy[51]. The genealogy of the Comtes de Mâcon, included in the cartulary of Saint-Vincent de Mâcon, records the marriage of "dominus Guillelmus comes" with the wife of "Albericus filius Letaudi comitis"[52]. Rodulfus Glaber states that "Willemus, Henrici ducis priuignus, Adalberti Longobardorum ducis filius" married the sister of "Brunone Lingonensi episcopo"[53]. She married secondly (before [981/82]) as his first wife, Othon Guillaume [di Ivrea], who succeeded as Comte de Mâcon in right of his wife."
Med Lands cites:
[42] Mâcon Saint-Vincent 7, p. 6.
[43] Mâcon Saint-Vincent 488, p. 283.
[44] Cluny, Tome I, 729, p. 685, and II.976, p. 72.
[45] Chifflet (1664), Preuves, p. 284.
[46] Cluny, Tome II, 1291, p. 368.
[47] Obituaires de Lyon II, Eglise cathédrale de Mâcon, p. 362.
[48] Cluny, Tome II, 1291, p. 368.
[49] Cluny, Tome II, 1198, p. 280.
[50] Flodoard Addit codex 1 (inserted after 966), MGH SS III, p. 407.
[51] Bouchard (1987), p. 169.
[52] Mâcon Saint-Vincent 7, p. 6.
[53] Rodulfi Glabri, Historiarum III.6, p. 105.7

Citations

  1. [S1608] Banks/Dean Genealogy, online http://www.gordonbanks.com/gordon/family/2nd_Site/geb-p/index.htm, Person Page 93: http://www.gordonbanks.com/gordon/family/2nd_Site/geb-p/p93.htm#i5081. Hereinafter cited as Banks/Dean Genealogy.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Aubry II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036198&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Aubry II de Mâcon: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aubry_II_de_M%C3%A2con. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  4. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/aubry002.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  5. [S1608] Banks/Dean Genealogy, online http://www.gordonbanks.com/gordon/family/2nd_Site/geb-p/index.htm, Person Page 95: http://www.gordonbanks.com/gordon/family/2nd_Site/geb-p/p95.htm#i5200
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Aubry II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036198&tree=LEO
  7. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BURGUNDIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#AubryIIMacondied981. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  8. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Anjou-Gatinais.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alverade de Lorraine: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020659&tree=LEO
  10. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#Ermentrudedied10021005
  11. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/ermen101.htm
  12. [S602] Inc. Brøderbund Software, World Family Tree Vol. 14, Ed. 1, Family #2699 (n.p.: Release date: October 20, 1997, unknown publish date).
  13. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de ROUCY & comtes de Reims, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Roucy.pdf
  14. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 24 July 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  15. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Gâtinais et d’Anjou (& 1ers Plantagenêts), p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Anjou-Gatinais.pdf
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Geoffroi I (?) seigneur de Chateau-Landon, comte de Gâtinais1,2,3,4

M, #4821, d. after November 991
FatherGauthier I (?) Comte de Valois, d'Amiens et du Vexin5,4 b. bt 920 - 925, d. bt 992 - 998
Last Edited27 Aug 2020
     Geoffroi I (?) seigneur de Chateau-Landon, comte de Gâtinais married Béatrix/Béatrice de Mâcon comtesse de Gâtinais, daughter of Aubry/Alberic II de Mâcon Comte de Mâcon and Ermentrude/Irmgard de Roucy Countess of Rheims, between 966 and 971 at France;
Her 1st husband.1,2,3,6,7
Geoffroi I (?) seigneur de Chateau-Landon, comte de Gâtinais died after November 991 at France.2,6
     ;      NB: I had originally followed the lineage shown for Geoffroi I comte de Gâtinais in Racines et Histoire (Comtes de Gâtinais et d’Anjou & Seigneurs de Beaumont-du-Gâtinais). However, with the publication of late research I have chosen to change Geoffroi's ancestors to follow the proposal of Settipani [2000] that this Geoffroi I comte de Gâtinais was the son of Gauthier I comte de de Vexin, d’Amiens et de Valois. This information is briefly discussed in the Wikipédia (Fr.) entry on "Geoffroy Ier de Gâtinais".
     Neither Med Lands or Genealogics have adopted this revised lineage. Med Lands shows no parents for Geoffroi I. Genealogics seems not to mention him (as of 15 Apr 2020).
GA Vaut.5,8,9,10,4



;      Per Med Lands (Comtes d'Amiens): "GODEFROY . A charter of "Hugo…Francorum rex" confirming the privileges of the monastery of Corvey dated 987 is subscribed by "Walteri comitis Ambianensis ac filiorum eius Walteri, Gotfredi, Rodulfi"[20]."
Med lands cites: [20] RHGF, Tome X, IV, p. 552.
     Per Med Lands (Comtes de Gâtinais):
     "GEOFFROY [I] de Château-Landon, son of --- (-after Nov 991). Seigneur de Château-Landon. Comte de Gâtinais. "Gausfridi comitis Wastinensis" subscribed the charter dated to [985/87] under which "Teduinus" donated "alodum…Vileta…in pago Wastinensis" to the abbey of Saint-Père de Chartres for the souls of "patris sui Adelardi et matris suæ Eldegardis"[174].
     "m as her first husband, BEATRIX de Mâcon, daughter of AUBRY II Comte de Mâcon & his wife Ermentrude de Roucy. A manuscript genealogy, dated to the early 12th century, records "Letaldus comes Vesoncius et Umbertus comes Marisconensis fratres…ex Letaldo, Albericus…ex Alberico Beatrix, ex Beatrice Gosfrido de Castello Landonensi"[175]. André de Fleury’s Vita Gauzlini records that “Albericus comes Nandonensium” donated “Alodum in Altissiodorensi territorio” to Fleury and that “Beatrix Nandonensium comitissa” donated “prædia”[176]. She married secondly Hugues du Perche, her second marriage being confirmed by the charter of her son "Albericum illius supradicti Gosfredi filium et heredum" dated 26 May 1028 (see below) approved by "fratribus ipsius Alberici, filiis Hugonis Pertice…Gosfredo et Letoldo"[177]."
Med lands cites:
[174] Devaux 'Etude chronologique des comtes de Gâtinais' (1885), p. 81, and Chartres Saint-Père, I, p. 90.
[175] Genealogiæ comitum Andegavensium, V, p. 249.
[176] Vita Gauzlini, Liber I, XXIX, p. 292.
[177] Devaux 'Etude chronologique des comtes de Gâtinais' (1885), pp. 81-2, and Paris Notre-Dame, Tome I, p. 326.11,6


; Per Racines et Histoire: "Geoffroi 1er de Château-Landon + après 11/991 seigneur de Château-Landon, comte de Gâtinais (souscrit charte 985/87 de donation de biens à Villette à l’Abbaye de Saint-Père de Chartres)
     ép. entre 03/966 et 14/01/971 Beatrix de Mâcon (fille d’Aubri II, comte de Mâcon, et d’Ermentrude de Roucy ; ép. 2) ~1000 Hugues du Perche (fils de Foucois, comte de Mortagne, et de Mélisende, vicomtesse de Châteaudun ; frère de Georffroi de Mortagne ; oncle d’Hugues, seigneur de Pithiviers) (citée dans une charte de son fils du 2° lit 26/05/1028.)9"

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 198, PLANTAGENET 1. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
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  4. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Geoffroy Ier de Gâtinais: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffroy_Ier_de_G%C3%A2tinais. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
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Eremburge de Baugency Comtesse Heritiere du Maine et du Mans, dame de La Flèche1,2,3,4,5

F, #4822, b. between 1091 and 1096, d. 14 January 1126
FatherHélie I (Elias) "de la Flèche" de Beaugency seigneur de La Flèche, Comte du Maine6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13 b. c 1060, d. 11 Jul 1110
MotherMatilda/Mahaud de Château-du-Loir dame du Mayet, dame de Château-du-Loire, Countess14,7,8,10,9,13,15 b. 1060, d. 1099
ReferenceGAV23 EDV24
Last Edited27 Aug 2020
     Eremburge de Baugency Comtesse Heritiere du Maine et du Mans, dame de La Flèche and Geoffroy IV "Martel II" (?) comte d'Anjou were engaged.13 Eremburge de Baugency Comtesse Heritiere du Maine et du Mans, dame de La Flèche was born between 1091 and 1096 at Maine, France; Genealogics says b. ca 1093; Genealogy.EU (Beaugency) says b. 1099; Genealogy.EU (Gâtinais/Anjou) says b. 1091/96; Med Lands says b. 1096.16,9,17,13 She married Foulques V "le Jeune" (?) Cte d'Anjou et de Maine, King of Jerusalem, son of Foulques IV "le Rechin" de Château-Landon Comte de Tours, d'Anjou et de Gatinais and Bertrade de Montfort-l'Amaury Comtesse d'Anjou, Reine des Francs, on 11 July 1110 at France;
His 1st wife.18,16,19,20,21,7,22,10,9,17,13
Eremburge de Baugency Comtesse Heritiere du Maine et du Mans, dame de La Flèche died on 14 January 1126; Genealogics says d. 1126; Genealogy.EU (Gâtinais/Anjou) says d. 14 Jan 1126; Genealogy.EU (Beaugency) says d. 14-15 Jan 1126; Genealogy.EU (Bellême) says d. 15 Jan 1126; Rudt-Collenberg says d. bef 1127; Med Lands says d. 14 Jan 1126; The Henry Project says d. 1126 and cites Chr. S. Serg. Andegav. = Chronica Sancti Sergii Andegavensis, in Marchegay & Mabille, eds., Chroniques des Églises d'Anjou (Paris, 1869), 129-152.16,2,20,5,17,7,22,10,9,13
     ; Per Genealogics:
     “Eremburge was the only child of Hélie I de la Flèche, comte de Maine, and Matilda, dame de Château-du-Loir. She was countess of Maine and the lady of Château-du-Loir from her father's death in 1100 to her own.
     “In 1109 Eremburge became the first wife of Foulques V 'the Young', comte d'Anjou, son of Foulques IV 'Rechin', comte d'Anjou, and his fourth wife Bertrade de Montfort-l'Amaury. Their marriage finally brought Maine under Angevin control. They had four children, of whom two sons and a daughter would have progeny.
     “Eremburge died in 1126, on either 15 January or 12 October. In 1128 Foulques left his lands to their son Geoffrey V, and set out for the Holy Land, where he married Melisende de Réthel, queen of Jerusalem, and became king of Jerusalem.”.7

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Burke's Guide to the Royal Family London, 1973 , Reference: page 311.
2. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: page 6.7


; This is the same person as ”Éremburge de la Flèche” at The Henry Project.22

; This is the same person as ”Ermengarde, Countess of Maine” at Wikipedia and as ”Erembourg du Maine” at Wikipédia (FR).23,24 GAV-23 EDV-24 GKJ-24. Eremburge de Baugency Comtesse Heritiere du Maine et du Mans, dame de La Flèche was also known as Eremburge de la Fleche.25

; Per Racines et Histoire (Bellême): “Erembourg du Maine + 15/01/1126
     ép. après 1058 Foulques «Le Jeune», comte d’Anjou”


Per Racines et Histoire (Beaugency): “Eremburge de Beaugency ° 1099 (ou 1091 ?) + 14-15/01/1126 comtesse du Maine et du Mans (1110), dame de La Flèche et de château-du-Loir
     ép. dès 14/04/1109 Foulques V «Le Jeune» d’Anjou ° 1092 (Angers) + 13/11/1144 (Acre, Palestine) 9° comte d’Anjou (14/04/1109-1129), du Maine (1110-1129) et de Tours (1109), Roi de Jérusalem (14/09/1131- 1143) (fils de Foulques IV et de Bertrade de Montfort ; ép. 2) 02/06/1129 Mélisende de Réthel)
     postérité Anjou, Plantagenêts ”.10,9

; Per Med Lands:
     "EREMBURGE du Maine ([1096]-14 Jan 1126). Orderic Vitalis names “Eremburgem” as the daughter of “Helias [de Balgenceio]” and his wife “Gervasii de Castro Ligeri...filiam”, adding that she married “domini sui filio Fulconi Andegavorum comiti”[209]. The Gesta Consulum Andegavensium records that "Gosfridum Martellum" was betrothed to "Helias comes unicam filiam", who later married Geoffroy’s younger half-brother[210]. A charter dated 25 Apr 1120 records that "comes Andergavensis Fulco Fulconis et comitissa uxor eius Aremburgis filia comitis Helie" were present at the consecration of the church of Le Mans[211]. She succeeded her father in 1110 as Ctss du Maine. The necrology of Angers Cathedral records the death "XVIII Kal Feb" of "Haremburgis Andegavorum nobilis comitissa"[212].
     "Betrothed to GEOFFROY IV Comte d'Anjou, son of FOULQUES IV "le Réchin" Comte d'Anjou & his second wife Ermengarde de Bourbon ([1073]-19 May 1106).
     "m (betrothed before 14 Apr 1109, 11 Jul 1110) as his first wife, FOULQUES V Comte d'Anjou, son of FOULQUES IV "le Réchin" Comte d'Anjou & his fifth wife Bertrade de Montfort (1092-Acre 13 Nov 1144)."
Med Lands cites:
[209] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VIII, XI, p. 332.
[210] Gestis Consulum Andegavensium, Chroniques d'Anjou, p. 142.
[211] Château-du-Loir 78, p. 44.
[212] Urseau Obituaire de la Cathédrale d'Angers.13


; Per Genealogy.EU (Anjou 2): “C3. [5m.] Foulques V "le Jeune", Cte d'Anjou (1109-29), Ct of Maine (1110-29), King of Jerusalem (1131-43), *1092, +Acre 10.11.1143/Ptolemais 13.11.1144; 1m: 11.7.1110 Eremburge, Cts de Maine (*ca 1096 +1126); 2m: 2.6.1129 Melisende de Rethel, Queen of Jerusalem (*ca 1101 +11.9.1161.)16"

; Per Med Lands:
     "FOULQUES d'Anjou, son of FOULQUES IV "le Réchiin" Comte d'Anjou & his fifth wife Bertrade de Montfort (1092-Acre 10 or 13 Nov 1144). The Gesta Consulum Andegavorum records that "Fulco" was the son of "Fulco Rechin" and "sororem Amalrici de Monte Forti", referring to her as his third wife[273]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Gaufridum iuniorem Martellum et Fulconam" as the two sons of "Fulco"[274]. William of Tyre names him and records his parentage[275]. His parentage is also given by Orderic Vitalis[276]. "Fulco Andegavensis comes" donated property to Angers with the consent of "filiis meis Gaufrido et Fulconello et filia mea Ermengarde" by charter dated 23 Jun 1096[277]. William of Tyre records that Foulques was imprisoned by the Comte de Poitou but released after the intervention of his mother, who was by then queen of France[278]. He succeeded his father in 1109 as FOULQUES V "le Jeune" Comte d'Anjou. "Fulco iunior Andegavensium comes Fulconis comitis filius" donated property to the abbey of Fontevraud with the consent of "Bertrade regina matre meo, Philipo fratre meo" by charter dated to [1109/1112/13][279]. "Fulcho iunior comes Fulchonis comitis filius, frater Martelli Iunioris" donated property to Saint-Aubin d'Angers by charter dated 4 Jan 1113[280]. Orderic Vitalis records that Foulques swore fealty to Henry I King of England, who invested him with the county of Maine, at "Petra Peculata" near Alençon in late Feb 1113, the alliance being confirmed by the betrothal of Henry's son to Foulques's daughter[281]. He later fought with King Henry I over the inheritance of his first wife. William of Malmesbury also records his dispute with King Henry over the latter's retention of the dowry of Foulques’s daughter Alice after her husband died in the Blanche Nef [White Ship][282]. The quarrel finally ended with the marriage of Foulques’s son to the king's daughter in 1128. Orderic Vitalis records that Foulques went on pilgrimage to Jerusalem in 1120 and remained there "for some time attached to the Knights of the Temple"[283]. He left France in early 1129, resigning the county of Anjou to his older son by his first marriage, and landed at Acre in May 1129 before travelling to Jerusalem for his second marriage[284]. He was crowned FOULQUES King of Jerusalem 14 Sep 1131, by right of his second wife. He imposed himself as regent of Antioch after his sister-in-law Alix Ctss of Antioch attempted to reassert her right to the regency after the death of her father. He rescued Pons Count of Tripoli from the castle of Montferrand in 1133, where he had fled after being ambushed by Turkomans in the Nosairi Mountains. He also relieved Antioch which was being threatened by Sawar Governor of Aleppo[285]. Zengi marched on Homs and besieged the castle. King Foulques attempted to relieve the siege, but his army was massacred, and Foulques was obliged to seek refuge in the castle which he was eventually obliged to surrender as the price for his own release[286]. He agreed an alliance with Unur of Damascus in 1139 against Zengi atabeg of Aleppo, who was threatening Damascus, and forced the latter's retreat to Aleppo[287]. King Foulques died after being thrown from his horse during a hunting party[288]. The necrology of Angers Cathedral records the death "IV Id Nov" of "Fulco prius Andegavorum comes postea rex Hierusalem"[289].
     "m firstly (before 14 Apr 1109, 11 Jul 1110) EREMBURGE du Maine, daughter and heiress of HELIE de la Flèche Comte du Maine & his first wife Mathilde de Château-du-Loir ([1096]-14 Jan 1126). Orderic Vitalis names “Eremburgem” as the daughter of “Helias [de Balgenceio]” and his wife “Gervasii de Castro Ligeri...filiam”, adding that she married “domini sui filio Fulconi Andegavorum comiti”[290]. The Gesta Consulum Andegavorum records that "Fulcone Richin filius eius Fulco" was married to "Helia Cenomannensi comite, unicam filiam suam" who had been betrothed to "Martellus frater suus"[291]. A charter dated 25 Apr 1120 records that "comes Andergavensis Fulco Fulconis et comitissa uxor eius Aremburgis filia comitis Helie" were present at the consecration of the church of Le Mans[292]. She succeeded her father in 1110 as Ctss du Maine. "Arenburgim Andegavensem comitissam…vir meus Fulco Andegavensium comes Fulconis comitis filius" donated property to the abbey of Fontevraud by charter dated 18 Aug, dated to [1109/15][293]. The necrology of Angers Cathedral records the death "XVIII Kal Feb" of "Haremburgis Andegavorum nobilis comitissa"[294]. The Chronicæ Sancti Albini records the death in 1126 of "Arenburgis comitissa"[295]. The necrology of the Prieuré de Fontaines records the death "15 Jan" of "Aremburgis comitissa"[296].
     "m secondly (Jerusalem 2 Jun 1129) MELISENDE of Jerusalem, daughter of BAUDOUIN II King of Jerusalem & his wife Morphia of Melitene (-11 Sep 1161). She is named by William of Tyre who also records her parentage[297]. In 1127, her father sent Guillaume de Bures and Guy Brisebarre to France to offer her hand in marriage to Foulques V Comte d'Anjou as part of his plan for her eventual succession to the throne of Jerusalem[298]. "Milisenda filia regis…" subscribed the charter dated Mar 1128 under which "Balduinus…rex Iherusalem Latinorum secundus" granted privileges to the church of the Holy Sepulchre, Jerusalem[299]. She succeeded her father in 1131 as MELISENDE Queen of Jerusalem, crowned with her husband 14 Sep 1131. She founded the convent of St Lazarus at Bethany in 1143, and installed her sister Yvette as abbess[300]. After her husband's death, she and her son Baudouin were crowned as king and queen together 25 Dec 1144, but Queen Melisende assumed the government of the kingdom herself. She took as her adviser her first cousin Manassès de Hierges, Constable of Jerusalem[301]. She was in open breach with her son, after he was crowned again as an adult 2 Apr 1151 at the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, without informing his mother. A council agreed that he would rule in Galilee and the northern part of the kingdom, while Mélisende retained Jerusalem and Nablus. King Baudouin demanded Jerusalem from her but she refused. He captured Constable Manassès at his castle of Mirabel in 1152 and expelled him from Palestine, after which his mother was obliged to yield Jerusalem[302]. Queen Mélisende presided over a council of regency in 1157 while her son was absent from Jerusalem on campaign[303]."
Med Lands cites:
[273] Chronica de Gesta Consulum Andegavorum, Chroniques d'Anjou, p. 140.
[274] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1095, MGH SS XXIII, p. 803.
[275] William of Tyre Continuator XIV.I, p. 606.
[276] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. IV, Book VIII, p. 187.
[277] Angers 65, p. 127.
[278] William of Tyre Continuator XIV.I, p. 606.
[279] Fontevraud 156, p. 142.
[280] Angers Saint-Aubin, Tome I, 84, p. 99.
[281] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. VI, Book XI, p. 181.
[282] Malmesbury, 419, p. 365.
[283] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. VI, Book XII, p. 311.
[284] Runciman (1978), Vol. 2, p. 178.
[285] Runciman (1978), Vol. 2, p. 195.
[286] Runciman (1978), Vol. 2, p. 203.
[287] Runciman (1978), Vol. 2, p. 227-8.
[288] Runciman (1978), Vol. 2, p. 233.
[289] L'Obituaire de la Cathédrale d'Angers.
[290] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VIII, XI, p. 332.
[291] Chronica de Gesta Consulum Andegavorum, Chroniques d'Anjou, p. 143.
[292] Château-du-Loir 78, p. 44.
[293] Fontevraud 165, p. 155.
[294] L'Obituaire de la Cathédrale d'Angers.
[295] Chronicæ sancti Albini Andegavensis, Chroniques des Eglises d'Anjou, p. 33.
[296] Obituaires de Sens Tome IV, Prieuré de Fontaines, p. 188.
[297] William of Tyre Continuator XII.IV, p. 517.
[298] Runciman (1978), Vol. 2, p. 177.
[299] Saint-Sépulchre de Jerusalem, 44, p. 81.
[300] Runciman (1978), Vol. 2, pp. 231-2.
[301] Runciman (1978), Vol. 2, p. 233.
[302] Runciman (1978), Vol. 2, pp. 334-5.
[303] Runciman (1978), Vol. 2, p. 360.21


; Per Racines et Histoire (Gâtinais/Anjou): “5) Foulques V «Le Jeune» d’Anjou ° 1092 + 1011/1143-13/11/1144 (Acre ou Ptolemaïs, Palestine) comte d’Anjou, de Tours (1109-1129), du Maine (1110-1129), croisé (1121, avec Hugues de Payns), Roi de Jérusalem (1131-1143)
     ép. 1) 11/07/1110 Eremburge de Beaugency, comtesse du Maine et du Mans (1110), dame de La Flèche ° 1091/96 + 14/01/1126
     ép. 2) 02-24/06/1129 (Jérusalem) Mélisende de Réthel, Reine de Jérusalem ° ~1101 + 11/09/1161 (fille de Baudouin II, Roi de Jérusalem) ”.17 She was Comtesse du Maine between 1110 and 1126.24

Family 1

Geoffroy IV "Martel II" (?) comte d'Anjou b. c 1073, d. 19 May 1106

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Foulques IV "le Rechin" de Château-Landon Comte de Tours, d'Anjou et de Gatinais1,2,3,4

M, #4823, b. 1043, d. 14 April 1109
FatherGeoffroy II/IV «Ferréol» (?) Cte de Château-Landon et de Beaumont-en-Gâtinais, Comte du Gâtinas5,1,3,6,7,8,4,9 b. c 1004, d. bt 30 Apr 1043 - 1 Apr 1046
MotherErmengarde/Blanche (?) Countess of Anjou, Duchess of Burgundy5,1,3,10,8,4,11 b. c 1018, d. 18 Mar 1076
ReferenceGAV24 EDV25
Last Edited27 Aug 2020
     Foulques IV "le Rechin" de Château-Landon Comte de Tours, d'Anjou et de Gatinais was born in 1043 at Anjou, France.12,13,1,8,4,14 He married Hildegarde de Beaugency, daughter of Lancelin II (Landry) de Beaugency seigneur de Beaugency and Alberga (?), in 1065;
His 1st wife; Genealogics says m. 1065; Med Lands says m. 1068.12,1,14,15,4,16,17 Foulques IV "le Rechin" de Château-Landon Comte de Tours, d'Anjou et de Gatinais married Ermengarde de Bourbon, daughter of Archambaud IV ' Le Fort' de Bourbon seigneur de Bourbon and Béliarde (?), in 1070;
His 2nd wife; her 1st husband.1,18,8,14,4,19,20 Foulques IV "le Rechin" de Château-Landon Comte de Tours, d'Anjou et de Gatinais married Orengarde/Arengarde de Châtelaillon, daughter of Isambart III de Châtelaillon, on 21 January 1076; his 3rd wife; Genealogy.EU (Anjou 2 page) says m. 1076; Genealogics says m. 21 Jan 1087; Med Lands says m. 21 Jan 1078.1,8,14,4 Foulques IV "le Rechin" de Château-Landon Comte de Tours, d'Anjou et de Gatinais and Ermengarde de Bourbon were divorced in 1080; annulled; Med Lands says divorced bef 1076.1,21,8,4,20 Foulques IV "le Rechin" de Château-Landon Comte de Tours, d'Anjou et de Gatinais and Orengarde/Arengarde de Châtelaillon were divorced in 1080.1,14,8 Foulques IV "le Rechin" de Château-Landon Comte de Tours, d'Anjou et de Gatinais married NN (?) de Brienne, daughter of Gauthier I de Brienne Count de Brienne and Eustache (?) de Bar-sur-Seine, after 1080;
His 4th wife.1,3,4,14 Foulques IV "le Rechin" de Château-Landon Comte de Tours, d'Anjou et de Gatinais and NN (?) de Brienne were divorced before 1089.1,4 Foulques IV "le Rechin" de Château-Landon Comte de Tours, d'Anjou et de Gatinais married Bertrade de Montfort-l'Amaury Comtesse d'Anjou, Reine des Francs, daughter of Simon I “le Vieux” de Montfort seigneur de Montfort L'Amaury and Agnès d'Évreux, in 1089 at France; His 4th wife; Roglo says m. "in 1088"; Genealogics says m. 1089.13,1,22,23,24,8,14,4,25 Foulques IV "le Rechin" de Château-Landon Comte de Tours, d'Anjou et de Gatinais and Bertrade de Montfort-l'Amaury Comtesse d'Anjou, Reine des Francs were divorced on 15 May 1092.26,1,3,24,4
Foulques IV "le Rechin" de Château-Landon Comte de Tours, d'Anjou et de Gatinais died on 14 April 1109 at Anjou, France.13,12,1,27,8,14,4
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Burke's Guide to the Royal Family London, 1973 , Reference: 311.8 GAV24 EDV-25 GKJ-25.

; This is the same person as:
”Fulk IV, Count of Anjou” at Wikipedia and as
”Foulques IV d'Anjou” at Wikipédia (Fr.)28,29

; Per Genealogics:
     “Foulques was born in 1043, the younger son of Geoffrey Ferréol de Château-Landon, comte du Gâtinas, and Ermengarde d'Anjou. He married four times, though his last three marriages ended in annulment. By his first wife Hildegarde de Beaugency he had a daughter Ermengarde who would have progeny. By his second, Ermengarde de Bourbon, he had a son Geoffrey IV Martel who rebelled against him, but predeceased him and left no progeny. Foulques' third marriage, to Arengarde de Châtel Aillon, was annulled without progeny. He then married Bertrade de Montfort-l'Amaury, and they had a son Foulques IV who would have progeny. This marriage also ended in annulment, and Bertrade became the second wife of Philippe I, king of France.
     “Foulques IV rebelled against his elder brother Geoffrey III 'the Bearded', who had succeeded his uncle Geoffrey II Martel, son of Foulques III, as comte d'Anjou. Foulques IV, discontented over having inherited only a few small appanages, took advantage of the general discontent aroused by Geoffrey III's inept rule, seized Saumur and Angers in 1067, and cast Geoffrey first into prison at Sablé and later in Chinon castle in 1068. He persuaded the French king Philippe I to accept this arrangement by ceding his paternal heritage of Gâtinais to the king. His later years were troubled by rebellion from his elder son Geoffrey IV Martel, but he secured the countship of Maine for his second son Foulques V by arranging his marriage to Eremburge, heiress of Hélie I de la Flèche, comte de Maine. Foulques IV died on 14 April 1109. He was succeeded by Foulques V, who married Eremburge in the following year.”.8 Foulques IV "le Rechin" de Château-Landon Comte de Tours, d'Anjou et de Gatinais was also known as Fulk IV "The Rude" Count of Anjou.13,12,5,1

Reference: Weis [1992:106-107] Lines 118-23, 119-23.5,12

; Per Racines et Histoire (Gâtinais/Anjou ): “Foulques de Château-Landon, Foulques IV «Le Réchin» d’Anjou ° ~1043 + 14/04/1109 comte de Tours (1060), Gâtinais (1060-1069) et Anjou (1068), reprend le Maine aux Normands (cède en 1069 le Gâtinais (et Château-Landon) au Roi de France Philippe 1er)
     ép. 1) ~1068 Hildegarde de Beaugency ° ~1043 + dès 1070 (fille de Lancelin II)
     ép. 2) 1070 Ermengarde de Bourbon ° ~1055 + 1087 (fille d’Archambaud IV «Le Fort» et de Béliarde ; ép. 2) Guillaume, seigneur de Jaligny)
     ép. 3) 21/01/1076 (div. 1080/81) Orengarde de Châtelaillon ° ~1055 + 1087 (fille d’Isembart, finit religieuse après son divorce)
     ép. 4) après 1080 (div. avant 1089) Mantie de Brienne ° ~1065 (fille de Gautier 1er de Brienne, et d’Eustachie, comtesse de Bar-sur-Seine)
     ép. 5) 1088/89 (div. 15/05/1092) Bertrade de Montfort ° ~1059/61 + 14/02/1117 (Fontevrault) (fille de Simon 1er et d’Agnès d’Evreux ; ép. 2) 15/05/1092 (rép. 1104) Philippe 1er Roi de France + 29/08/1108) ”.14

; Per Med Lands:
     "FOULQUES de Château-Landon (1043-14 Apr 1109, bur Anjou Sainte-Trinité). The Historiæ Andegavensis names "Goffridi de Castro Landono et Ermengardis filia Fulconis Comitis Andegavensis" as parents of "Fulco comes Andegavensis"[226]. "Gaufredus comitatus Andecavensis naturalis heres" made donations to Marmoutier dated 1055 in which he names "nepotibus meis…Fulcone vincocinensium comite naturali, Gaufredo et altero Fulcone"[227]. He succeeded, after deposing his brother, as FOULQUES IV "le Rechin" Comte d'Anjou. The Chronicon Vindocinense records that "Fulconi fratri Gaufridi comitis Andegavorum" captured "Salmuri castri…Kal Mar" in 1067 and "II Kal Apr" captured and imprisoned "fratrem suum…comes Gaufredus junior…Barbatum" until his death, although another paragraph of the Chronicon dates the capture to 1068[228]. He ceded Château-Landon and Gâtinais to Philippe I King of France in 1069 in return for the king's recognition of his accession as count[229]. He expelled the Normans from Maine but peace was imposed by William I King of England[230]. The necrology of Angers Cathedral records the death "XVIII Kal Mai" of "Fulco…comes Andagavensis nepos Gaufridi prioris Martelli"[231]. The necrology of Vendôme La Trinité records the death "XVIII Kal Mai" of "Fulco comes Andegavorum"[232]. A list of anniversaries of Vendôme La Trinité records the death "XVIII Kal Mai" of "Fulconis comitis qui iacet in Aquaria"[233]. The Chronicon Vindocinense records the death "XVIII Kal Mai" in 1109 of "Fulco comes Andegavorum…frater comitis Gosfridi…Barbatus" and his burial "in monasterio nostro Andegavense S. Trinitatis"[234].
     "m firstly ([1068]) HILDEGARDE de Baugency, daughter of LANCELIN [II] de Baugency & his wife --- (-before 1070). The Gesta Consulum Andegavorum refers to the first wife of "Fulco Rechin" as "filiam Lancelini de Baugenciaco"[235]. The primary source which confirms her name has not been identified.
     "m secondly (1070, divorced) as her first husband, ERMENGARDE de Bourbon, daughter of ARCHAMBAUD [IV] "le Fort" Seigneur de Bourbon & his wife Béliarde ---. The Gesta Consulum Andegavorum names "Ermengardim filiam Archenbaldi Fortis de Borbone" as second wife of "Fulco Rechin", recording that he divorced her[236]. She married secondly Guillaume Seigneur de Jaligny. The Gesta Consulum Andegavorum names her second husband "Guillelmo Jalinniaci ortam" when recording the marriage of her daughter by this second marriage[237].
     "m thirdly (21 Jan 1076, divorced 1080) ORENGARDE de Châtelaillon, daughter of ISEMBART Seigneur de Châtelaillon & his wife ---. Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the dating clause of a charter dated 21 Jan "1070" (redated to 1076) which records this as the date when "comes Fulco" married "Aurengarde, filia Isemberti de Castello Allione"[238]. Comte Foulque "Rechin" donated property to Saint-Nicolas d’Angers, for the salvation of "sa femme Orengarde", by charter dated 17 May 1076[239]. She became a nun after her divorce.
     "m fourthly (after 1080, divorced before 1089) --- de Brienne, daughter of GAUTHIER [I] Comte de Brienne & his wife Eustachie Ctss de Bar-sur-Saône . A manuscript genealogy, dated to the early 12th century, records "Windesmode Ingelbertus et Witdo de Upione, ex Ingelberto Walterius comes de Brena, ex Walterio filia nata est ista quam Fulco comes noster uxorem duxerat"[240]. A genealogy presented by Foulques IV "le Réchin" Comte d'Anjou to the bishop of Angers in [1085], justifying the annulment of his fourth marriage with the daughter of Gauthier Comte de Brienne, lists "ex Letaldo, Albericus natus est, ex Alberico, Beatrix, ex Beatrice, Gosfredus de Castello Landonensi, ex Gaufrido, Gaufridus et Fulco presens"[241].
     "m fifthly (1089, divorced [15 May 1092]) as her first husband, BERTRADE de Montfort, daughter of SIMON [I] Comte de Montfort-l'Amaury & his third wife Agnès d'Evreux (-Fontevrault end-1115/1116, bur church of the priory of Hautes-Bruyères, Saint-Remy-l’Honoré, Yvelines). Her parentage is recorded by Orderic Vitalis[242]. The Gesta Consulum Andegavorum refers to the "third wife" of "Fulco Rechin" as "sororem Amalrici de Monte Forti"[243]. She married secondly (15 May 1092, repudiated 1104) as his second wife, Philippe I King of France (-29 Aug 1108). Orderic Vitalis records that “Bertrada...Andegavorum comitissa”, fearing that her husband was about to treat her like his previous two wives, sought protection from “Philippo regi Francorum” who repudiated his own wife and married her, the ceremony being conducted by “Odo Bajocensis episcopus”[244]. In another passage, Orderic Vitalis records that King Philippe abducted Bertrade from her first husband and married her bigamously[245]. The De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses names "Fulconi Richin Andegavensi comiti uxorem suam nomine Bertradam" as second wife of King Philippe whom he abducted from her first husband after repudiating his first wife[246]. William of Tyre records this marriage[247]. Pope Urban II at the Council of Autun excommunicated the king 16 Oct 1094, confirmed at the Council of Clermont 18/28 Nov 1095[248]. The church finally admitted the validity of the marriage after the Council of Paris 2 Dec 1104[249]. Orderic Vitalis alleges that Bertrade tried to poison her stepson Louis so her own sons could succeed to the throne[250]. "Fulco iunior Andegavensium comes Fulconis comitis filius" donated property to the abbey of Fontevraud with the consent of "Bertrade regina matre meo, Philipo fratre meo" by charter dated to [1109/1112/13][251]."
Med Lands cites:
[226] Historiæ Andegavensis, RHGF X, p. 203.
[227] Marmoutier CXVII, p. 183.
[228] Chronicon Vindocinense 1067 and 1068, pp. 488-7.
[229] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 70.
[230] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. II, Book IV, pp. 307 and 309.
[231] L'Obituaire de la Cathédrale d'Angers.
[232] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de la Trinité de Vendôme, p. 201.
[233] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de la Trinité de Vendôme, List of anniversaries extracted from a lost necrology, p. 206.
[234] Chronicon Vindocinense 1109, p. 492.
[235] Chronica de Gesta Consulum Andegavorum, Chroniques d'Anjou, p. 140.
[236] Chronica de Gesta Consulum Andegavorum, Chroniques d'Anjou, p. 140.
[237] Chronica de Gesta Consulum Andegavorum, Chroniques d'Anjou, p. 141.
[238] Halphen (1906), p. 169, footnote 4, quoting a charter of Saint-Florent de Saumur, Arch. du Maine-et-Loire, fonds de la mense commune, domaine de Saumur, orig..
[239] Halphen (1906), Catalogue, 231, p. 310, citing citing Cartul. de Saint-Nicolas, fol. 123.
[240] Halphen & Poupardin (1913), Genealogiæ comitum Andegavensium, V, p. 249.
[241] Saint-Phalle 'Les comtes de Gâtinais', p. 231, citing Poupardin, R. 'Généalogies angevines', Mélanges de l'Ecole française de Rome 20 (1900), p. 208, no. 6.
[242] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. VI, Book XI, p. 167.
[243] Chronica de Gesta Consulum Andegavorum, Chroniques d'Anjou, p. 140.
[244] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VIII, XX, p. 386.
[245] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. V, Book IX, p. 11.
[246] De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses MGH SS, p. 257.
[247] William of Tyre, XIV.I, p. 606.
[248] Runciman (1978), Vol. 1, p. 107.
[249] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 72.
[250] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. VI, Book XI, pp. 51-5.
[251] Fontevraud, 156, p. 142.4


; Per Genealogy.EU (Anjou 2): “B2. Foulques IV "le Rechin", Cte d'Anjou (1068-1109), *1043, +14.4.1109; 1m: Hildegarde de Baugency (+by 1070); 2m: 1070 (div) Ermengarde de Bourbon; 3m: 1076 (div 1080) Ermengarde de Châtel-Aillon; 4m: (div) N de Brienne, a dau.of Gauthier I de Brienne; 5m: 1089 (div ca 1092) Bertrade de Montfort (*ca 1059 +14.2.1117)”.30

; Per Racines et Histoire (Montfort L'Amaury): “3) Bertrade de Montfort ° 1059/60 ou 1074? + 14/02/1117 (Fontevrault)
ép.1) 1089 Foulques IV “Le Réchin”, comte d’Anjou °~1043 + 14/04/1109 [ séparés 15/05/1092 ] (fils de Geoffroi II, comte de Gâtinais, seigneur de Château-Landon, et d’Ermengarde d’Anjou)
ép. 2) 15/05/1093 (excommuniés le 16/10/1094 puis leur mariage admis le 02/12/1104 par l’Eglise) Philippe 1er, Roi de France ° avant 23/05/1052/53 (Melun) + 29-30/07/1108 (Meulan) (fils d’Henri 1er et d’Anna Iaroslavna de Kiev)”.31

; Per Med Lands:
     "BERTRADE de Montfort (-Fontevrault end-1115/1116, bur church of the priory of Hautes-Bruyères, Saint-Remy-l’Honoré, Yvelines). Her parentage is recorded by Orderic Vitalis[511]. The De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses names "Fulconi Richin Andegavensi comiti uxorem suam nomine Bertradam" as second wife of King Philippe whom he abducted from her first husband after repudiating his first wife[512]. Orderic Vitalis records that “Bertrada...Andegavorum comitissa”, fearing that her husband was about to treat her like his previous two wives, sought protection from “Philippo regi Francorum” who repudiated his own wife and married her, the ceremony being conducted by “Odo Bajocensis episcopus”[513]. William of Tyre records this marriage[514]. Pope Urban II at the Council of Autun excommunicated the king 16 Oct 1094, confirmed at the Council of Clermont 18/28 Nov 1095[515]. The church finally admitted the validity of the marriage after the Council of Paris 2 Dec 1104[516]. Orderic Vitalis alleges that Bertrade tried to poison her stepson Louis so her own sons could succeed to the throne[517]. "Fulco iunior Andegavensium comes Fulconis comitis filius" donated property to the abbey of Fontevraud with the consent of "Bertrade regina matre meo, Philipo fratre meo" by charter dated to [1109/1112/13][518].
     "m firstly (1089, divorced [15 May 1092]) as his fifth wife, FOULQUES IV "le Réchin" Comte d'Anjou, son of GEOFFROY II Comte de Gâtinais, Seigneur de Château-Landon & his wife Ermengarde d'Anjou (1043-14 Apr 1109).
     "m secondly (Paris 1092, before 27 Oct) bigamously as his second wife, PHILIPPE I King of France, son of HENRI I King of France & his second wife Anna Iaroslavna of Kiev (1052-château de Melun, Seine-et-Marne 30 Jul 1108, bur Abbaye Saint Benoît-sur-Loire). King Philippe I was excommunicated by Pope Urban II at the Council of Autun 16 Oct 1094 for this bigamous second marriage. The church finally admitted the validity of the marriage after the Council of Paris 2 Dec 1104."
Med Lands cites:
[511] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. VI, Book XI, p. 167.
[512] De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses MGH SS XIII, p. 257.
[513] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VIII, XX, p. 386.
[514] William of Tyre, XIV.I, p. 606.
[515] Runciman (1978), Vol. 1, p. 107.
[516] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 72.
[517] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. VI, Book XI, pp. 51-5.
[518] Fontevraud, Tome I, 156, p. 142.24


; Per Genealogy.EU (Montfort): “B3. [2m.] Bertrade, *ca 1059, +as a nun at Fontevrault 14.2.1117; 1m: 1089 (annulled 1089) Ct Foulques IV of Anjou (*1043, +14.4.1109); 2m: 15.5.1092 King Philippe I of France (+29.7.1108)”.32

; Per Racines et Histoire (Beaugency): “? Hildegarde de Beaugency ° ~1043 + dès 1070 (dans les chartes, est dite «fille de Lancelin» (1er ou II ?) : la question reste ouverte...) [H&G, rép. 0.I.35. Beaugency ; H&G, n° 173, rép. 4.III.684. Flandre]
ép. dès 1068 (répud.) Foulques IV «Le Réchin», 7° comte d’Anjou, de Tours et de Gâtinais (~1060/68) ° 14/04/1043 (Château-Landon, 77) + 14/04/1109 (Angers, 49) (fils de Geoffroi II, comte de Gâtinais, seigneur de Château-Landon, et d’Ermengarde d’Anjou ; ép. 2) (répud.) 1070 Ermengarde de Bourbon ; ép. 3) 21/01/1076 ou ~1087 Arengarde de Châtelaillon et/ou Mantie de Brienne) ; ép. 4 ou 5) 1089/91 Bertrade de Montfort ° ~1061 +1118)”.15

; Per Med Lands:
     "HILDEGARDE de Baugency (-before 1070). The Gesta Consulum Andegavensium refers to the first wife of "Fulco Rechin" as "filiam Lancelini de Baugenciaco"[740]. The primary source which confirms her name has not been identified.
     "m ([1068]) as his first wife, FOULQUES IV "le Réchin" Comte d'Anjou, son of GEOFFROY II Comte de Gâtinais, Seigneur de Château-Landon & his wife Ermengarde d'Anjou (1043-14 Apr 1109)."
Med Lands cites: [740] Gestis Consulum Andegavensium, Chroniques d'Anjou, p. 140.17

; Per Med Lands:
     "ERMENGARDE de Bourbon . The Gesta Consulum Andegavensium names "Ermengardim filiam Archenbaldi Fortis de Borbone" as second wife of "Fulco Rechin", recording that he divorced her[80]. The Gesta Consulum Andegavensium names her second husband "Guillelmo Jalinniaci ortam" when recording the marriage of her daughter by this second marriage[81]. The Gesta Ambaziensium names "Willelmo Jalinacensi domino filio Uldini Barbæ" as the second husband of "Ermengardim filiam Archembaudi Fortis de Borbono"[82].
     "m firstly (1070, divorced before 1076) as his second wife, FOULQUES IV "le Réchin" Comte d'Anjou, son of GEOFFROY II Comte de Gâtinais, Seigneur de Château-Landon & his wife Ermengarde d'Anjou (1043-14 Apr 1109).
     "m secondly GUILLAUME Seigneur de Jaligny, son of ELDIN de Jaligny & his wife ---. "
Med Lands cites:
[80] Marchegay, P. and Salmon, A. (eds.) (1856) Chroniques d'Anjou Tome I (Paris), Gestis Consulum Andegavensium, p. 140.
[81] Gestis Consulum Andegavensium, Chroniques d'Anjou, p. 141.
[82] Gesta Ambaziensium Dominorum, Chroniques d'Anjou, p. 191.20


; Per Racines et Histoire (Bourbon Ancien): “Ermengarde de Bourbon ° ~1055/60 + avant 1087
     ép. 1) 1070 (div.) Foulques IV «Le Réchin», comte de Tours (1060) Gâtinais (1060-1069) et d’Anjou (1068) ° ~1043 (Château-Landon) + 14 ou 21/04/1109
     ép. 2) ~1082 Guillaume, seigneur de SouvignyJuligny ° ~1060”.18

; Per Med Lands:
     "ORENGARDE de Châtelaillon (-after 1080). Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the dating clause of a charter dated 21 Jan "1070" (redated to 1076) which records this as the date when "comes Fulco" married "Aurengarde, filia Isemberti de Castello Allione"[573]. Comte Foulque "Rechin" donated property to Saint-Nicolas d’Angers, for the salvation of "sa femme Orengarde", by charter dated 17 May 1076[574]. She became a nun after her divorce.
     "m (21 Jan 1076, divorced 1080) as his third wife, FOULQUES IV "le Réchin" Comte d'Anjou, son of GEOFFROY [II] Comte de Gâtinais, Seigneur de Château-Landon & his wife Ermengarde d'Anjou (1043-14 Apr 1109)."
Med Lands cites:
[573] Halphen (1906), p. 169, footnote 4, quoting a charter of Saint-Florent de Saumur, Arch. de Maine-et-Loire, fonds de la mense commune, domaine de Saumur, orig..
[574] Halphen (1906), Catalogue, 231, p. 310, citing Cartul. de Saint-Nicolas, fol. 123.33


; Per Genealogy.EU (Brienne 1): “C5. a daughter; m.Cte Foulques IV d'Anjou (+1109)”.34

; Per Med Lands:
     "daughter . A manuscript genealogy, dated to the early 12th century, records "Windesmode Ingelbertus et Witdo de Upione, ex Ingelberto Walterius comes de Brena, ex Walterio filia nata est ista quam Fulco comes noster uxorem duxerat"[45]. "Airardus comes Brinensis" confirmed donations of "pater meus Walterius comes" to the abbey of Molesme with the consent of "mater mea et due sorores mee" by charter dated to [1085/95][46]. A genealogy presented by Foulques IV "le Réchin" Comte d'Anjou to the bishop of Angers in [1085], justifying the annulment of his fourth marriage with the daughter of Gauthier Comte de Brienne, lists "ex Letaldo, Albericus natus est, ex Alberico, Beatrix, ex Beatrice, Gosfredus de Castello Landonensi, ex Gaufrido, Gaufridus et Fulco presens"[47].
     "m (after 1080, divorced before 1089) as his fourth wife, FOULQUES IV "le Réchin" Comte d'Anjou, son of GEOFFROY II Comte de Gâtinais, Seigneur de Château-Landon & his wife Ermengarde d'Anjou (1043-14 Apr 1109)."
Med Lands cites:
[45] Genealogiæ comitum Andegavensium, V, p. 249.
[46] Molesme, Tome II, 117, p. 119.
[47] Saint-Phalle 'Les comtes de Gâtinais' (2000), p. 231, citing Poupardin, R. 'Généalogies angevines', Mélanges de l'Ecole française de Rome 20 (1900), p. 208, no. 6.14
He was Count of Anjou between 1068 and 1109.12,1,29,28

Family 1

Hildegarde de Beaugency b. 1043, d. b 1070
Child

Family 2

Ermengarde de Bourbon b. 1055, d. b 1087
Child

Family 4

NN (?) de Brienne b. 1065

Family 5

Bertrade de Montfort-l'Amaury Comtesse d'Anjou, Reine des Francs b. bt 1059 - 1061, d. 14 Feb 1117
Child

Citations

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Bertrade de Montfort-l'Amaury Comtesse d'Anjou, Reine des Francs1,2,3,4,5,6,7

F, #4824, b. between 1059 and 1061, d. 14 February 1117
FatherSimon I “le Vieux” de Montfort seigneur de Montfort L'Amaury1,8,2,4,9,7,10,11,12 b. c 1030, d. 25 Sep 1087
MotherAgnès d'Évreux1,2,4,9,7,11,13,14 b. c 1038, d. 14 Feb 1116
ReferenceGAV24 EDV25
Last Edited8 Sep 2020
     Bertrade de Montfort-l'Amaury Comtesse d'Anjou, Reine des Francs was born between 1059 and 1061 at Montfort, Eure, France; Per The Henry Project, the est. d of birth is given by CP; Genealogics says b. ca 1060.15,16,17,4 She married Foulques IV "le Rechin" de Château-Landon Comte de Tours, d'Anjou et de Gatinais, son of Geoffroy II/IV «Ferréol» (?) Cte de Château-Landon et de Beaumont-en-Gâtinais, Comte du Gâtinas and Ermengarde/Blanche (?) Countess of Anjou, Duchess of Burgundy, in 1089 at France; His 4th wife; Roglo says m. "in 1088"; Genealogics says m. 1089.18,15,19,4,9,20,21,22,7 Bertrade de Montfort-l'Amaury Comtesse d'Anjou, Reine des Francs married Philippe I (?) King of France, son of Henri I (?) King of France and Anna Agnesa Yaroslavna (?) Grand Duchess of Kiev, Regent of France, on 15 May 1092 at France;
His 2nd wife; her 2nd (illegal) husband;
Per The Henry Project: "...she was carried off in 1092 by king Philippe I of France, who married her (illegally, as she was still married to Fulk). After years of disputes with the church, which included putting France under an interdict, Philippe finally agreed to have no relations with Bertrade, in 1104. Bertrade continued to use the title of queen, but retired to a monastery after Philippe's death in 1108."8,2,16,19,23,24,4,9,7 Bertrade de Montfort-l'Amaury Comtesse d'Anjou, Reine des Francs and Foulques IV "le Rechin" de Château-Landon Comte de Tours, d'Anjou et de Gatinais were divorced on 15 May 1092.25,15,17,9,22 Bertrade de Montfort-l'Amaury Comtesse d'Anjou, Reine des Francs and Philippe I (?) King of France were divorced in 1104.2
Bertrade de Montfort-l'Amaury Comtesse d'Anjou, Reine des Francs died on 14 February 1117 at Fontevraud-l'Abbaye, Departement de Maine-et-Loire, Pays de la Loire, France; Genealogics says d. end 1115/1116.26,27,8,15,2,3,17,4,9
Bertrade de Montfort-l'Amaury Comtesse d'Anjou, Reine des Francs was buried after 14 February 1117 at Abbey of Hautes-Bruyères, Saint-Remy-l'Honore, Departement des Yvelines, Île-de-France, France,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1070
     DEATH     14 Feb 1117 (aged 46–47), Fontevraud-l'Abbaye, Departement de Maine-et-Loire, Pays de la Loire, France
     French Royalty. She was the daughter of Simon I de Montfort and his third wife Agnes d'Evreux. She became the fifth wife of Fulk IV of Anjou in 1089 and gave birth to a boy, who was named Fulk after his father. She later left her husband to live at the court of the King of France. Philipp I disowned his first wife and banned her to the Castle of Montreuil-sur-Mer where she died in 1094. Philipp and Bertrade got married in May 1092, without getting divorces first. She had great influence on his decisions. During the Council of Clermont in 1095, Pope Urban II excommunicated them for bigamy. Two years later the excommunication was confirmed and the whole kingdom was put under the interdict. They officially separated in 1104 and Pope Pascal II revoked the excommunication as well as the interdict. They continued to live together at the court, but the pope needed Philipps help now and overlooked any wrongdoing. She had given birth to four children, Philipp, Fleury, Eustachie and Cecile, but the king named his son, Louis, from his first marriage as his heir. She was not happy about that decision and supposedly tried to poison Louis. After her husbands death she had to leave the court. She sold her dowry and together with her brother Amaury III founded the Abbey of Haute-Bruyère in 1112. She retired to Fontevrault where she died. Her body was moved to Haute-Bruyère in 1128 and buried in the choir of the abbey church.
     Family Members
     Parents
          Simon I de Montfort 1038–1087
          Agnès d'Évreux de Montfort 1030–1116
     Spouses
          Philip I of France 1052–1108
          Fulk of Anjou 1043–1109
     Siblings
          Amaury IV Montfort unknown–1137
          Richard de Montfort 1065–1092
     Children
          Fulk of Anjou 1092–1143
     BURIAL     Abbey of Hautes-Bruyères, Saint-Remy-l'Honore, Departement des Yvelines, Île-de-France, France
     Created by: Lutetia
     Added: 10 Dec 2005
     Find a Grave Memorial 12645596.28
     ; Per Genealogy.EU (Capet 4): “D1. King PHILIPPE I of France (1060-1108) cr 1059, *1053, +Meulan 29.7.1108, bur Abbaye St.Benoit-sur-Loire; 1m: 1072 (repudiated 1092) Bertha of Holland (*ca 1055, +1094); 2m: 15.5.1092 (separated 1104) Bertrade de Montfort-l'Amaury (+14.2.1117)”.29
; Per Med Lands:
     "PHILIPPE de France, son of HENRI I King of France & his second wife Anna Iaroslavna of Kiev (1052-Château de Melun, Seine-et-Marne 30 Jul 1108, bur Abbaye de Saint Benoît-sur-Loire[292]). The Liber Modernorum Regum Francorum names (in order) "Philippum, Hugonem atque Rotbertum" as the three sons of King Henri and Anna[293]. Orderic Vitalis names "Philippum et Hugonem Magnum Crispeii comitem" as the children of "Henricus…Francorum rex" and his wife "Bertradam, Julii Claudii regis Russiæ filiam"[294]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the birth in 1052 of "rex futurus regis Francorum Henrici filius ex Anna filia Georgii regis Sclavonum"[295]. He was consecrated associate-king 23 May 1059, at the cathedral of Notre-Dame de Reims: the Hugonis Floriacensis Actum records the consecration in 1058 of “rex...Henricus...Philippum filium suum duodennum” at “Remis a Gervasio archiepiscopo”, in the presence of “duo Nicholai papæ legati, Hugo...Bisunciensis archiepiscopus et Hermenfredus Sedunensis episcopus”[296]. His father entrusted his education to his uncle Baldwin V Count of Flanders, who later became regent until 1066/67. He succeeded his father in 1060 as PHILIPPE I King of France. The Bertholdi Annales record in 1060 the death of “Heinricus Galliarum rex” and the succession of “filius eius Philippus adhuc puer regnum cum matre gubernandum suscepit”[297]. Consecrated 25 Dec 1071 at Laon, again 16 May 1098 at Tours, and for a fourth time 25 Dec 1100 at Reims. Foulques IV "le Rechin" Comte d'Anjou ceded Château-Landon and Gâtinais to him in 1069, in return for the king's recognition of his accession as count[298]. King Philippe pursued this policy of expanding his territories, adding Corbie in 1074, acquiring part of Vermandois on the death of Raoul Comte de Vermandois in 1074, invading Vexin in 1077, and taking possession of Bourges in 1100[299]. In 1071, after ineffectively helping Arnoul III Count of Flanders against his uncle Robert, the latter made peace with King Philippe and arranged the king's marriage to his stepdaughter. The Historia Regum Francorum Monasterii Sancti Dionysii records the death "apud Milidunum IV Kal Aug" of King Philippe and his burial "in ecclesia sancti Benedicti super Ligerim in pago Aurelianensi"[300]. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Germain-des-Prés records the death "III Kal Aug" of "Philippus rex Francorum"[301]. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Denis records the death "III Kal Aug" of "Philippus rex"[302].
     "Betrothed ([1055/59]) to JUDITH [Maria/Sophia] of Germany, daughter of Emperor HEINRICH III King of Germany & his second wife Agnès de Poitou ([1054]-14 Mar [1092/96], bur Admont Abbey). The Gesta Hungarorum records that King András forced the marriage of "Salomoni regi" and "Henricus imperator…Sophiam suam filiam", specifying that she had earlier been betrothed to "filio regis Franciæ"[303]. This could only refer to the future Philippe I King of France as it is unlikely that the emperor's daughter would have been betrothed to his younger brother. This betrothal is not corroborated in the western European primary sources so far consulted.
     "m firstly (1072, repudiated 1092) BERTHA of Holland, daughter of FLORIS I Count of Holland & his wife Gertrud of Saxony[-Billung] ([1058]-Montreuil-sur-Mer, Pas-de-Calais 15 Oct 1094). The Liber Modernorum Regum Francorum records the marriage of "filiam ducis Frisiæ" and "rex Philippus"[304]. The Historia Francorum names "filiam Florentii ducis Frisonum Bertam" as wife of King Philippe[305]. The Chronologia Johannes de Beke names (in order) "Theodricum et Florencium…et Machtildim" as children of Count Floris & his wife, specifying that "Machtildim" married "Philippus rex Francie" after the death of her father which indicates that "Machtildim" in this text is an error for Bertha[306]. Her marriage was arranged as part of the settlement under which her future husband recognised her stepfather as Count of Flanders[307]. She was repudiated after King Philippe abducted Bertrade de Montfort from her husband, and was sent to Montreuil[308]. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Victor records the death "Id Oct" of "Berta mater Ludovici regis"[309]. Clarius’s Chronicon Sancti Petri Vivi Senonensis records the death in 1094 of “Berta regina, quæ a rege Philippo prius fuerat derelicta”[310].
     "m secondly (Paris 1092, before 27 Oct) as her second husband, BERTRADE de Montfort, fifth wife of FOULQUES IV “le Réchin” Comte d’Anjou, daughter of SIMON [I] de Montfort-l'Amaury & his third wife Agnès d’Evreux (-Fontevrault end-1115/1116, bur church of the priory of Hautes-Bruyères, Saint-Rémy-l’Honoré, Yvelines). Orderic Vitalis records that “Bertrada...Andegavorum comitissa”, fearing that her husband was about to treat her like his previous two wives, sought protection from “Philippo regi Francorum” who repudiated his own wife and married her, the ceremony being conducted by “Odo Bajocensis episcopus”[311]. The De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses names "Fulconi Richin Andegavensi comiti uxorem suam nomine Bertradam" as second wife of King Philippe, specifying that the king abducted her from her first husband after repudiating his first wife[312]. William of Tyre records this marriage[313]. Pope Urban II at the Council of Autun excommunicated the king 16 Oct 1094, confirmed at the Council of Clermont 18/28 Nov 1095[314]. The church finally admitted the validity of the marriage after the Council of Paris 2 Dec 1104[315]. Orderic Vitalis alleges that Bertrade tried to poison her stepson Louis so her own sons could succeed to the throne[316]. "Fulco iunior Andegavensium comes Fulconis comitis filius" donated property to the abbey of Fontevraud with the consent of "Bertrade regina matre meo, Philipo fratre meo" by charter dated to [1109/1112/13][317]. "
Med Lands cites:
[292] Orderic Vitalis, Vol. VI, Book XI, p. 155.
[293] Hugonis Floriacensis, Liber qui Modernorum Regum Francorum continet Actus 10, MGH SS IX, p. 389.
[294] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VII, I, p. 159.
[295] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1052, MGH SS XXIII, p. 789.
[296] Hugonis Floriacensis Modernorum Regum Francorum Actus, MGH SS IX, p. 389.
[297] Bertholdi Annales, 1060, MGH SS Tome V, p. 271.
[298] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 70.
[299] Kerrebrouck (2000), pp. 70-1.
[300] Historia Regum Francorum Monasterii Sancti Dionysii 31, MGH SS IX, p. 405.
[301] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Saint-Germain-des-Prés, p. 268.
[302] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Saint-Denis, p. 322.
[303] Kézai, S., Veszprémy, L. and Schaer, F. (eds. and trans.) (1999) Simonis de Kéza Gesta Hungarorum (CEP), 57, p. 127.
[304] Hugonis Floriacensis, Liber qui Modernorum Regum Francorum continet Actus 11, MGH SS IX, p. 390.
[305] Hugonis Floriacensis, Liber qui Modernorum Regum Francorum continet Actus 11, MGH SS IX, p. 391, additional manuscript quoted in footnote *.
[306] Bruch, H. (ed.) (1973) Chronologia Johannes de Beke (The Hague), 45, p. 85, available at < http://www.inghist.nl/Onderzoek/Projecten /KroniekVanJohannesDeBekeTot1430/latijn> (31 Aug 2006).
[307] Nicholas (1992), p. 52.
[308] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 71.
[309] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Saint-Victor, p. 593.
[310] Duru, L. M. (1863) Bibliothèque historique de l’Yonne (Auxerre, Paris), Tome II, Chronicon Sancti-Petri-Vivi Senonensis auctore Clario, p. 512.
[311] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VIII, XX, p. 386.
[312] De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses MGH SS, p. 257.
[313] William of Tyre XIV.I, p. 606.
[314] Runciman, S. (1978) A History of the Crusades (Penguin Books), Vol. 1, p. 107.
[315] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 72.
[316] Orderic Vitalis, Vol. VI, Book XI, pp. 51-5.
[317] Bienvenue, J. M. (ed.) (2000) Grand Cartulaire de Fontevraud, Tome I (Poitiers) (“Fontevraud”) 156, p. 142.24

; Per Genealogy.EU (Anjou 2): “B2. Foulques IV "le Rechin", Cte d'Anjou (1068-1109), *1043, +14.4.1109; 1m: Hildegarde de Baugency (+by 1070); 2m: 1070 (div) Ermengarde de Bourbon; 3m: 1076 (div 1080) Ermengarde de Châtel-Aillon; 4m: (div) N de Brienne, a dau.of Gauthier I de Brienne; 5m: 1089 (div ca 1092) Bertrade de Montfort (*ca 1059 +14.2.1117)”.30
; Per Med Lands:
     "FOULQUES de Château-Landon (1043-14 Apr 1109, bur Anjou Sainte-Trinité). The Historiæ Andegavensis names "Goffridi de Castro Landono et Ermengardis filia Fulconis Comitis Andegavensis" as parents of "Fulco comes Andegavensis"[226]. "Gaufredus comitatus Andecavensis naturalis heres" made donations to Marmoutier dated 1055 in which he names "nepotibus meis…Fulcone vincocinensium comite naturali, Gaufredo et altero Fulcone"[227]. He succeeded, after deposing his brother, as FOULQUES IV "le Rechin" Comte d'Anjou. The Chronicon Vindocinense records that "Fulconi fratri Gaufridi comitis Andegavorum" captured "Salmuri castri…Kal Mar" in 1067 and "II Kal Apr" captured and imprisoned "fratrem suum…comes Gaufredus junior…Barbatum" until his death, although another paragraph of the Chronicon dates the capture to 1068[228]. He ceded Château-Landon and Gâtinais to Philippe I King of France in 1069 in return for the king's recognition of his accession as count[229]. He expelled the Normans from Maine but peace was imposed by William I King of England[230]. The necrology of Angers Cathedral records the death "XVIII Kal Mai" of "Fulco…comes Andagavensis nepos Gaufridi prioris Martelli"[231]. The necrology of Vendôme La Trinité records the death "XVIII Kal Mai" of "Fulco comes Andegavorum"[232]. A list of anniversaries of Vendôme La Trinité records the death "XVIII Kal Mai" of "Fulconis comitis qui iacet in Aquaria"[233]. The Chronicon Vindocinense records the death "XVIII Kal Mai" in 1109 of "Fulco comes Andegavorum…frater comitis Gosfridi…Barbatus" and his burial "in monasterio nostro Andegavense S. Trinitatis"[234].
     "m firstly ([1068]) HILDEGARDE de Baugency, daughter of LANCELIN [II] de Baugency & his wife --- (-before 1070). The Gesta Consulum Andegavorum refers to the first wife of "Fulco Rechin" as "filiam Lancelini de Baugenciaco"[235]. The primary source which confirms her name has not been identified.
     "m secondly (1070, divorced) as her first husband, ERMENGARDE de Bourbon, daughter of ARCHAMBAUD [IV] "le Fort" Seigneur de Bourbon & his wife Béliarde ---. The Gesta Consulum Andegavorum names "Ermengardim filiam Archenbaldi Fortis de Borbone" as second wife of "Fulco Rechin", recording that he divorced her[236]. She married secondly Guillaume Seigneur de Jaligny. The Gesta Consulum Andegavorum names her second husband "Guillelmo Jalinniaci ortam" when recording the marriage of her daughter by this second marriage[237].
     "m thirdly (21 Jan 1076, divorced 1080) ORENGARDE de Châtelaillon, daughter of ISEMBART Seigneur de Châtelaillon & his wife ---. Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the dating clause of a charter dated 21 Jan "1070" (redated to 1076) which records this as the date when "comes Fulco" married "Aurengarde, filia Isemberti de Castello Allione"[238]. Comte Foulque "Rechin" donated property to Saint-Nicolas d’Angers, for the salvation of "sa femme Orengarde", by charter dated 17 May 1076[239]. She became a nun after her divorce.
     "m fourthly (after 1080, divorced before 1089) --- de Brienne, daughter of GAUTHIER [I] Comte de Brienne & his wife Eustachie Ctss de Bar-sur-Saône . A manuscript genealogy, dated to the early 12th century, records "Windesmode Ingelbertus et Witdo de Upione, ex Ingelberto Walterius comes de Brena, ex Walterio filia nata est ista quam Fulco comes noster uxorem duxerat"[240]. A genealogy presented by Foulques IV "le Réchin" Comte d'Anjou to the bishop of Angers in [1085], justifying the annulment of his fourth marriage with the daughter of Gauthier Comte de Brienne, lists "ex Letaldo, Albericus natus est, ex Alberico, Beatrix, ex Beatrice, Gosfredus de Castello Landonensi, ex Gaufrido, Gaufridus et Fulco presens"[241].
     "m fifthly (1089, divorced [15 May 1092]) as her first husband, BERTRADE de Montfort, daughter of SIMON [I] Comte de Montfort-l'Amaury & his third wife Agnès d'Evreux (-Fontevrault end-1115/1116, bur church of the priory of Hautes-Bruyères, Saint-Remy-l’Honoré, Yvelines). Her parentage is recorded by Orderic Vitalis[242]. The Gesta Consulum Andegavorum refers to the "third wife" of "Fulco Rechin" as "sororem Amalrici de Monte Forti"[243]. She married secondly (15 May 1092, repudiated 1104) as his second wife, Philippe I King of France (-29 Aug 1108). Orderic Vitalis records that “Bertrada...Andegavorum comitissa”, fearing that her husband was about to treat her like his previous two wives, sought protection from “Philippo regi Francorum” who repudiated his own wife and married her, the ceremony being conducted by “Odo Bajocensis episcopus”[244]. In another passage, Orderic Vitalis records that King Philippe abducted Bertrade from her first husband and married her bigamously[245]. The De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses names "Fulconi Richin Andegavensi comiti uxorem suam nomine Bertradam" as second wife of King Philippe whom he abducted from her first husband after repudiating his first wife[246]. William of Tyre records this marriage[247]. Pope Urban II at the Council of Autun excommunicated the king 16 Oct 1094, confirmed at the Council of Clermont 18/28 Nov 1095[248]. The church finally admitted the validity of the marriage after the Council of Paris 2 Dec 1104[249]. Orderic Vitalis alleges that Bertrade tried to poison her stepson Louis so her own sons could succeed to the throne[250]. "Fulco iunior Andegavensium comes Fulconis comitis filius" donated property to the abbey of Fontevraud with the consent of "Bertrade regina matre meo, Philipo fratre meo" by charter dated to [1109/1112/13][251]."
Med Lands cites:
[226] Historiæ Andegavensis, RHGF X, p. 203.
[227] Marmoutier CXVII, p. 183.
[228] Chronicon Vindocinense 1067 and 1068, pp. 488-7.
[229] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 70.
[230] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. II, Book IV, pp. 307 and 309.
[231] L'Obituaire de la Cathédrale d'Angers.
[232] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de la Trinité de Vendôme, p. 201.
[233] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Abbaye de la Trinité de Vendôme, List of anniversaries extracted from a lost necrology, p. 206.
[234] Chronicon Vindocinense 1109, p. 492.
[235] Chronica de Gesta Consulum Andegavorum, Chroniques d'Anjou, p. 140.
[236] Chronica de Gesta Consulum Andegavorum, Chroniques d'Anjou, p. 140.
[237] Chronica de Gesta Consulum Andegavorum, Chroniques d'Anjou, p. 141.
[238] Halphen (1906), p. 169, footnote 4, quoting a charter of Saint-Florent de Saumur, Arch. du Maine-et-Loire, fonds de la mense commune, domaine de Saumur, orig..
[239] Halphen (1906), Catalogue, 231, p. 310, citing citing Cartul. de Saint-Nicolas, fol. 123.
[240] Halphen & Poupardin (1913), Genealogiæ comitum Andegavensium, V, p. 249.
[241] Saint-Phalle 'Les comtes de Gâtinais', p. 231, citing Poupardin, R. 'Généalogies angevines', Mélanges de l'Ecole française de Rome 20 (1900), p. 208, no. 6.
[242] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. VI, Book XI, p. 167.
[243] Chronica de Gesta Consulum Andegavorum, Chroniques d'Anjou, p. 140.
[244] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VIII, XX, p. 386.
[245] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. V, Book IX, p. 11.
[246] De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses MGH SS, p. 257.
[247] William of Tyre, XIV.I, p. 606.
[248] Runciman (1978), Vol. 1, p. 107.
[249] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 72.
[250] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. VI, Book XI, pp. 51-5.
[251] Fontevraud, 156, p. 142.22

; Per Racines et Histoire (Gâtinais/Anjou ): “Foulques de Château-Landon, Foulques IV «Le Réchin» d’Anjou ° ~1043 + 14/04/1109 comte de Tours (1060), Gâtinais (1060-1069) et Anjou (1068), reprend le Maine aux Normands (cède en 1069 le Gâtinais (et Château-Landon) au Roi de France Philippe 1er)
     ép. 1) ~1068 Hildegarde de Beaugency ° ~1043 + dès 1070 (fille de Lancelin II)
     ép. 2) 1070 Ermengarde de Bourbon ° ~1055 + 1087 (fille d’Archambaud IV «Le Fort» et de Béliarde ; ép. 2) Guillaume, seigneur de Jaligny)
     ép. 3) 21/01/1076 (div. 1080/81) Orengarde de Châtelaillon ° ~1055 + 1087 (fille d’Isembart, finit religieuse après son divorce)
     ép. 4) après 1080 (div. avant 1089) Mantie de Brienne ° ~1065 (fille de Gautier 1er de Brienne, et d’Eustachie, comtesse de Bar-sur-Seine)
     ép. 5) 1088/89 (div. 15/05/1092) Bertrade de Montfort ° ~1059/61 + 14/02/1117 (Fontevrault) (fille de Simon 1er et d’Agnès d’Evreux ; ép. 2) 15/05/1092 (rép. 1104) Philippe 1er Roi de France + 29/08/1108) ”.21

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Burke's Guide to the Royal Family London, 1973 , Reference: page 311.
2. Les seize quartiers des Reines et Imperatrices Francaises. 1977., Jacques Saillot, Reference: page 183.4


; This is the same person as:
”Bertrade de Montfort” at Wikipedia and as
”Bertrade de Montfort” at Wikipédia (Fr.)6,5 GAV24 EDV-25 GKJ-25.31

Reference: Weis [1992:107] Line 119-23.32

; According to The Henry Project: "Bertrade,
m. (1) Foulques (Fulk) IV, count of Anjou;
m. (2) Philip I, king of France.
[GND viii, 17 (vol. 2, pp. 232-5), see above; "Rodbertus autem archiepiscopus et comes, frater Ricardi ducis, genuit Ricardum comitem Ebroicensium, et Ricardus Agnetam Simonis uxorem, quæ peperit Bertradam Fulconis genetricem..." OV xi, 37 (4: 294); "Fulco comes dixit duci Roberto: '... Amo Bertradam, sobolem Simonis de Monteforti, neptem scilicet Ebroicensis comitis Guillermi, quam Helvissa comitissa nutrit, et sua sub tutela custodit. Hanc mihi conjugem trade, obsecro...' " OV viii, 10 (3: 320-1)]"
Bibliography
GND = Guillaume de Jumièges, Gesta Normannorum Ducum, as edited in Elisabeth van Houts, ed. & trans., The Gesta Normannorum Ducum of William of Jumièges, Orderic Vitalis and Robert of Torigni, 2 OV = Marjorie Chibnall, ed. & trans., The Ecclesiastical History of Orderic Vitalis, 6 vols. (Oxford, 1969-80).“.7

; Per Genealogics:
     “Bertrade was born about 1060, the daughter of Simon, seigneur de Montfort-l'Amauri, and Agnes d'Evreux. In 1089 she married Foulques IV 'Rechin', comte d'Anjou, son of Geoffrey Ferréol de Château-Landon, comte du Gâtinas, and Ermengarde d'Anjou. Their son Foulques V would have progeny.
     “Bertrade left her husband and took up with Philippe I, king of France. Philippe married her on 15 May 1092, despite the fact that they both had spouses living. He was so enamoured of Bertrade that he refused to leave her even when threatened with excommunication. Pope Urban II did excommunicate him in 1095, and Philippe was prevented from taking part in the First Crusade. Astonishingly, Bertrade persuaded Philippe and Foulques to be friends.
     “Bertrade and Philippe had four children of whom Fleury and Cécile would have progeny.
     “According to Orderic Vitalis, Bertrade was anxious that one of her sons succeed Philippe, and sent a letter to King Henry I of England asking him to arrest her stepson Louis. Orderic also claims she sought to kill Louis first through the art of sorcery, and then through poison. Whatever the truth of these allegations, Louis succeeded Philippe in 1108. Bertrade lived until 1117; William of Malmesbury says: 'Bertrade, still young and beautiful, took the veil in the abbey of Fontevrault, always charming to men, pleasing to God, and like an angel.'”.4

; Per Med Lands:
     "BERTRADE de Montfort (-Fontevrault end-1115/1116, bur church of the priory of Hautes-Bruyères, Saint-Remy-l’Honoré, Yvelines). Her parentage is recorded by Orderic Vitalis[511]. The De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses names "Fulconi Richin Andegavensi comiti uxorem suam nomine Bertradam" as second wife of King Philippe whom he abducted from her first husband after repudiating his first wife[512]. Orderic Vitalis records that “Bertrada...Andegavorum comitissa”, fearing that her husband was about to treat her like his previous two wives, sought protection from “Philippo regi Francorum” who repudiated his own wife and married her, the ceremony being conducted by “Odo Bajocensis episcopus”[513]. William of Tyre records this marriage[514]. Pope Urban II at the Council of Autun excommunicated the king 16 Oct 1094, confirmed at the Council of Clermont 18/28 Nov 1095[515]. The church finally admitted the validity of the marriage after the Council of Paris 2 Dec 1104[516]. Orderic Vitalis alleges that Bertrade tried to poison her stepson Louis so her own sons could succeed to the throne[517]. "Fulco iunior Andegavensium comes Fulconis comitis filius" donated property to the abbey of Fontevraud with the consent of "Bertrade regina matre meo, Philipo fratre meo" by charter dated to [1109/1112/13][518].
     "m firstly (1089, divorced [15 May 1092]) as his fifth wife, FOULQUES IV "le Réchin" Comte d'Anjou, son of GEOFFROY II Comte de Gâtinais, Seigneur de Château-Landon & his wife Ermengarde d'Anjou (1043-14 Apr 1109).
     "m secondly (Paris 1092, before 27 Oct) bigamously as his second wife, PHILIPPE I King of France, son of HENRI I King of France & his second wife Anna Iaroslavna of Kiev (1052-château de Melun, Seine-et-Marne 30 Jul 1108, bur Abbaye Saint Benoît-sur-Loire). King Philippe I was excommunicated by Pope Urban II at the Council of Autun 16 Oct 1094 for this bigamous second marriage. The church finally admitted the validity of the marriage after the Council of Paris 2 Dec 1104."
Med Lands cites:
[511] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. VI, Book XI, p. 167.
[512] De Genere Comitum Flandrensium, Notæ Parisienses MGH SS XIII, p. 257.
[513] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. III, Liber VIII, XX, p. 386.
[514] William of Tyre, XIV.I, p. 606.
[515] Runciman (1978), Vol. 1, p. 107.
[516] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 72.
[517] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. VI, Book XI, pp. 51-5.
[518] Fontevraud, Tome I, 156, p. 142.9


; Per Genealogy.EU (Montfort): “B3. [2m.] Bertrade, *ca 1059, +as a nun at Fontevrault 14.2.1117; 1m: 1089 (annulled 1089) Ct Foulques IV of Anjou (*1043, +14.4.1109); 2m: 15.5.1092 King Philippe I of France (+29.7.1108)”.33

; Per Racines et Histoire (Montfort L'Amaury): “3) Bertrade de Montfort ° 1059/60 ou 1074? + 14/02/1117 (Fontevrault)
ép.1) 1089 Foulques IV “Le Réchin”, comte d’Anjou °~1043 + 14/04/1109 [ séparés 15/05/1092 ] (fils de Geoffroi II, comte de Gâtinais, seigneur de Château-Landon, et d’Ermengarde d’Anjou)
ép. 2) 15/05/1093 (excommuniés le 16/10/1094 puis leur mariage admis le 02/12/1104 par l’Eglise) Philippe 1er, Roi de France ° avant 23/05/1052/53 (Melun) + 29-30/07/1108 (Meulan) (fils d’Henri 1er et d’Anna Iaroslavna de Kiev)”.34

Family 2

Philippe I (?) King of France b. b 23 May 1052, d. 29 Jul 1108
Children

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Geoffroy II/IV «Ferréol» (?) Cte de Château-Landon et de Beaumont-en-Gâtinais, Comte du Gâtinas1,2,3,4,5,6,7

M, #4825, b. circa 1004, d. between 30 April 1043 and 1 April 1046
FatherHugues du Perche Count of Gâtinais5,6,7,8 b. c 970, d. a 993
MotherBéatrix/Béatrice de Mâcon comtesse de Gâtinais4,6,7,9 d. a 1030
ReferenceGAV25 EDV26
Last Edited27 Aug 2020
     Geoffroy II/IV «Ferréol» (?) Cte de Château-Landon et de Beaumont-en-Gâtinais, Comte du Gâtinas was born circa 1004 at Quierzy, Aisne, France.1,2 He married Ermengarde/Blanche (?) Countess of Anjou, Duchess of Burgundy, daughter of Foulques III "The Black", (?) Comte d'Anjou and Hildegarde (?) de Sundgau (Metz), Countess of Anjou, circa 1035 at France;
Her 1st marriage.10,11,12,2,13,3,4,14,5,15,16,17,7
Geoffroy II/IV «Ferréol» (?) Cte de Château-Landon et de Beaumont-en-Gâtinais, Comte du Gâtinas died between 30 April 1043 and 1 April 1046 at Anjou, Departement de l'Isère, Rhône-Alpes, France (now); Boyer [2001:198] says d. 1 Apr 1046; Genealogics says d. 30 Apr 1043-1046; Wikipedia says d. 1043 or 1046; The Henry Project says d. 30 Apr 1042x5.1,10,6,5,7
     ; Per Wikipedia:
     "Geoffrey II, de Château-Landon (died 1043 or 1046) was the Count of Gâtinais.[1][2] He was the son of Hugues du Perche, Count of Gâtinais, by Béatrice de Mâcon, the daughter of Aubry II de Mâcon.[3] About 1035 he married Ermengarde of Anjou, Duchess of Burgundy, daughter of Fulk III, Count of Anjou.[2][4] After Geoffrey's death she married secondly Robert I, Duke of Burgundy.[1]
Issue
     "Together, Geoffrey and Ermengarde had:
-- Hildegarde de Château-Landon, married c.1060 to Joscelin I, Lord of Courtenay;[4] his famous son was Joscelin I, Count of Edessa by a different partner.
-- Geoffrey III (1040 - 1096)[2][4]
-- Fulk IV (1043 - 1109)[2][4]
References
1. John Burke & Sir Bernard Burke, C.B., Burke's Peerage, Baronetage, and Knightage, Edited by Peter Townsend (Burke's Peerage Ltd.,London, 1963)p. xciii
2. Detlev Schwennicke, Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge, Band II (Marburg, Germany: J. A. Stargardt, 1984), Tafel 82
3. Kate Norgate, England Under the Angevin Kings, Vol. I (Macmillan and Co., London, New York, 1887), p. 250
4. Jim Bradbury, 'Fulk le Réchin and the Origin of the Plantagenets', Studies in Medieval History Presented to R. Allen Brown, Ed. Christopher Harper-Bill, Christopher J. Holdsworth, Janet L. Nelson (The Boydell Press, 1989), p. 27."6
He was Cte de Gâtinais.1

; This is the same person as ”Geoffroy (III)” at The Henry Project.7

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Burke's Guide to the Royal Family, London, 1973. 311.
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 2:82.
3. Henry Project , Baldwin, Stewart.5
GAV-25 EDV-26 GKJ-26. Geoffroy II/IV «Ferréol» (?) Cte de Château-Landon et de Beaumont-en-Gâtinais, Comte du Gâtinas was also known as Geoffroy IV (Aubri-Geoffrey) Count of the Gastinais.10

; Per Med Lands:
     "GEOFFROY [II] de Gâtinais, son of HUGUES du Perche Comte de Gâtinais & his wife Beatrix de Mâcon (-30 Apr [1043/47]). His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated 26 May 1028 under which Francon Bishop of Paris agreed with "Albericum illius supradicti Gosfredi filium et heredum" concerning a prior grant by the bishop's predecessor to "Gosfrido comiti Landonensi castri", with the approval of "fratribus ipsius Alberici, filiis Hugonis Pertice…Gosfredo et Letoldo"[200]. A genealogy presented by Foulques IV "le Réchin" Comte d'Anjou to the bishop of Angers in [1085], justifying the annulment of his fourth marriage with the daughter of Gauthier Comte de Brienne, states that "ex Letaldo, Albericus natus est, ex Alberico, Beatrix, ex Beatrice, Gosfredus de Castello Landonensi, ex Gaufrido, Gaufridus et Fulco presens"[201]. His name is confirmed by a charter (undated?) under which [his son] Geoffroy III Comte d’Anjou donated fishing rights on the Mayenne river to Angers Saint-Serge, for the souls of “Geoffroy son père et de Geoffroy Martel son oncle”[202]. He succeeded his half-brother as Comte de Gâtinais, Seigneur de Château-Landon. The fact that Aubry Comte de Gâtinais and Geoffroy [II] Comte de Gâtinais were two different individuals, the inevitable conclusion from the two sources cited, is somewhat clouded by the Historia Comitum Andegavorum which records that "Gaufridus Martellus…nepotibus suis" were "filiis Adhelæ sororis suæ et Alberici comitis de Gastinais"[203], by the Chronicle of Saint-Maxence which names "Alberici Contracti comitis de Gastina" as father of "Goffredus et Fulco Rechin"[204], and by Orderic Vitalis who records that “Goisfredus Martellus Andegavensium comes” died childless and left “Goisfredo nepoti suo Alberici Wastinensium comitis filio” as his heir[205]. No source has been identified which confirms Geoffroy’s date of death, but [1043/47] seems a reasonable estimate given the likely dates of birth of his children and the second marriage of his widow. .
     "m ([1035]) as her first husband, ERMENGARDE d'Anjou, daughter of FOULQUES III "Nerra" Comte d'Anjou & his second wife Hildegard [de Metz] ([1015/20]-[church of Fleury-sur-Ouche, Côte d’Or 18 Mar 1076]). The Historiæ Andegavensis names "Goffridi de Castro Landono et Ermengardis filia Fulconis Comitis Andegavensis" as parents of "Fulco comes Andegavensis"[206]. Considering that she gave birth to at least one child by her second marriage, it is unlikely that Ermengarde was born earlier than [1015]. She must therefore have been considerably younger than her brother. Her first marriage is dated very approximately to [1035]. She married secondly ([1049]) as his second wife, Robert I "le Vieux" Duke of Burgundy. Her second marriage is deduced from a genealogy of the Comtes d'Anjou which names "Fulco (pater) Gosfridus et Ermengardis (mater) Gosfridus (et) Fulco (et) Hildegardis, de altero patre, filia Roberti ducis fratris Henrici regis"[207]. Her second marriage is dated from the letter written before [1050] by Jean Abbot of Fécamp to Pope Leo IX recording that "Tedbaldo comite et Burgundionum…duce R" had "abdicatis legitimi thori connumbiis" and had "in inhonestis et consanguinitate fœdatis thalamis"[208]. The necrology of Molesme records the death "XV Kal Apr" of "Robertus dux Burgundie et Ermengardis uxor eius"[209]. This entry suggests that Ermengarde died on the same day as her husband, possibly at the same place and in the same circumstances, although it is not infrequent for medieval necrologies to record couples on the same day maybe in commemoration of a joint donation to the religious institution in question. No other source which elucidates the circumstances of Ermengarde’s death has been identified.
Med Lands cites:
[200] Devaux 'Comtes de Gâtinais' (1885), pp. 81-2, and Paris Notre-Dame, Tome I, p. 326.
[201] Saint-Phalle 'Les comtes de Gâtinais', p. 231, citing Poupardin, R. 'Généalogies angevines', Mélanges de l'Ecole française de Rome 20 (1900), p. 208, no. 6.
[202] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 13, citing “Cartulaire de St Serge”.
[203] Historia Comitum Andegavorum, Chroniques d'Anjou, p. 333.
[204] Chronicon sancti Maxentii Pictavensis, Chroniques des Eglises d'Anjou, p. 402.
[205] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, VI, p. 92.
[206] Historiæ Andegavensis, RHGF X, p. 203.
[207] Halphen & Poupardin (1913), p. 247.
[208] Migne, J.-P. (ed.) Patrologiæ cursus completus, Series Latina, Vol. 143, cols. 799-800, cited in Bouchard (1987), p. 257.
[209] Petit, Vol. V, p. 386.15


; Per Genealogy.EU (Anjou): "Ermengarde dit Blanche, *ca 1018, +murdered at Fleury-sur-Ouche 18.3.1076; 1m: ca 1035 Geoffroy Ferreol de Château-Landon, Cte de Gâtinais (+1043/46); 2m: ca 1048 Duke Robert I of Burgundy (*1011 +1076.)12"

; Per Med Lands:
     "ERMENGARDE d'Anjou ([1015/20]-[church of Fleury-sur-Ouche, Côte d’Or 18 Mar 1076]). The Historiæ Andegavensis names "Goffridi de Castro Landono et Ermengardis filia Fulconis Comitis Andegavensis" as parents of "Fulco comes Andegavensis"[196]. Considering that she gave birth to at least one child by her second marriage, it is unlikely that Ermengarde was born earlier than [1015]. She must therefore have been considerably younger than her brother. Her first marriage is dated very approximately to [1035]. Her second marriage is deduced from a genealogy of the Comtes d'Anjou which names "Fulco (pater) Gosfridus et Ermengardis (mater) Gosfridus (et) Fulco (et) Hildegardis, de altero patre, filia Roberti ducis fratris Henrici regis"[197]. Her second marriage is dated from the letter written before [1050] by Jean Abbot of Fécamp to Pope Leo IX recording that "Tedbaldo comite et Burgundionum…duce R" had "abdicatis legitimi thori connumbiis" and had "in inhonestis et consanguinitate fœdatis thalamis"[198]. The necrology of Molesme records the death "XV Kal Apr" of "Robertus dux Burgundie et Ermengardis uxor eius"[199]. This entry suggests that Ermengarde died on the same day as her husband, possibly at the same place and in the same circumstances, although it is not infrequent for medieval necrologies to record couples on the same day maybe in commemoration of a joint donation to the religious institution in question. No other source which elucidates the circumstances of Ermengarde’s death has been identified.
     "m firstly ([1035]) GEOFFROY II "Ferréol" Seigneur de Château-Landon, Comte de Gâtinais, son of HUGUES du Perche Comte de Gâtinais & his wife Beatrix de Mâcon (-30 Apr [1043/47]).
     "m secondly (1049) as his second wife, ROBERT I "le Vieux" Duke of Burgundy, son of ROBERT II "le Pieux" King of France & his third wife Constance d'Arles ([1007]-church of Fleury-sur-Ouche, Côte d’Or 18 Mar 1076, bur Abbaye de Saint-Seine, Côte d’Or)."
Med Lands cites:
[195] Anjou Charité, VIII, p. 10.
[196] Historiæ Andegavensis, RHGF X, p. 203.
[197] Halphen & Poupardin (1913), p. 247.
[198] Migne, J.-P. (ed.) Patrologiæ cursus completus, Series Latina, Vol. 143, cols. 799-800, cited in Bouchard (1987), p. 257.
[199] Petit, Vol. V, p. 386.16
He was Comte de Château-Landon, Comte de Gatinais between 1026 and 1046.1,2,15

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Anjou 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/anjou/anjou2.html#Is
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  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaumont-en-Gâtinais.pdf, p. 2.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Geoffrey Ferréol de Château-Landon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020217&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  6. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey_II,_Count_of_G%C3%A2tinais. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  7. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Geoffroy (III): https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/geoff002.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  8. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Hugues du Perche: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/hugh0006.htm
  9. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Béatrix de Mâcon: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/beatr000.htm
  10. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 198, PLANTAGENET 2. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
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    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 118-23, p. 106. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
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Ermengarde/Blanche (?) Countess of Anjou, Duchess of Burgundy1,2,3,4,5,6

F, #4826, b. circa 1018, d. 18 March 1076
FatherFoulques III "The Black", (?) Comte d'Anjou3,4,5,7,8,9,6,10 b. bt 970 - 972, d. 21 Jun 1040
MotherHildegarde (?) de Sundgau (Metz), Countess of Anjou3,4,5,9,6 b. c 964, d. 1 Apr 1046
ReferenceGAV25 EDV26
Last Edited27 Aug 2020
     Ermengarde/Blanche (?) Countess of Anjou, Duchess of Burgundy was born circa 1018 at Anjou, Normandy, France; Med Lands says b. 1015-1020.11,2,3,4,12 She married Geoffroy II/IV «Ferréol» (?) Cte de Château-Landon et de Beaumont-en-Gâtinais, Comte du Gâtinas, son of Hugues du Perche Count of Gâtinais and Béatrix/Béatrice de Mâcon comtesse de Gâtinais, circa 1035 at France;
Her 1st marriage.1,11,2,3,4,13,5,9,14,15,12,6,16 Ermengarde/Blanche (?) Countess of Anjou, Duchess of Burgundy married Robert I "le Vieux" (?) Duc de Bourgogne, Cte d'Auxerre, son of Robert II "The Pious/le Pieux" (?) King of France and Constance (?) d'Arles, Queen of France, between 1048 and 1049 at France;
Her 2nd marriage; Genealogy.EU (Anjou 1 and Capet 4/9 pages) say m. ca 1048; Med lands says m. 1049.17,2,18,19,4,9,12,20,21,6
Ermengarde/Blanche (?) Countess of Anjou, Duchess of Burgundy died on 18 March 1076 at Fleury-Sur-Ouche, Departement de la Côte-d'Or, Bourgogne, France; murdered; Genealogy.EU says d. 18 March 1076.1,11,2,3,4,9,12,6
Ermengarde/Blanche (?) Countess of Anjou, Duchess of Burgundy was buried after 18 March 1076 at Abbaye de Saint-Seine, Saint-Seine-l'Abbaye, Departement de la Côte-d'Or, Bourgogne, France,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1018
     DEATH     18 Mar 1076 (aged 57–58)
     French Nobility. Born the younger of the two daughters of Fulko 'Nerra' of Anjou and Hildegarde de Metz. She married Geoffrey II "Ferréol" de Château-Landon in 1035 and bore him three children. After his death she married about 1049 Robert de Bourgogne. After her brothers childless death in 1060 she inheirited Anjou for her sons, while her sisters sons received Vendôme. She and Robert were killed at the church of Saint-Fleurey-sur-Ouche.
     Family Members
     Parents
          Fulk III Anjou unknown–1040
          Hildegarde de Metz unknown–1046
     Spouses
          Geoffrey Gâtinais 1000–1046
          Robert de Bourgogne 1011–1076
     Children
          Fulk of Anjou 1043–1109
          Hildegarde de Bourgogne 1050–1120
     BURIAL     Abbaye de Saint-Seine, Saint-Seine-l'Abbaye, Departement de la Côte-d'Or, Bourgogne, France
     Created by: Lutetia
     Added: 5 Sep 2012
     Find A Grave Memorial 96597377
     SPONSORED BY Christian H. F. Riley.22
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "ROBERT de France, son of ROBERT II "le Pieux" King of France & his third wife Constance d'Arles ([1011/12]-church of Fleury-sur-Ouche, Côte d’Or 8 or 18 Mar 1076, bur Abbaye de Saint-Seine, Côte d’Or). The Historia Francorum names (in order) "Hugonem qui cognominatus est Magnus, Henricum, Robertum, Odonem" as the four sons of King Robert and his wife Constance[142]. Rodulfus Glauber names "Heinricus rex…germanium suum Rotbertum" when recording the latter's installation as duke of Burgundy by his brother[143]. His mother supported him as candidate to be consecrated associate king in 1027, in place of his older brother Henri who was supported by their father. His father named him heir to the duchy of Burgundy in 1030. He was installed as ROBERT I Duke of Burgundy in 1032 by his brother King Henri I. Comte d'Auxerre in 1040, when he conquered the county after Hugues Bishop of Auxerre died in 1039. He lost it after the 1060 council of Autun which ended his war with Nevers[144]. “Robertus Burgundie dux” renounced rights “in villa...Gilliacus...” in favour of Saint-Germain-des-Prés by charter dated 22 Sep 1040, subscribed by “...Elie conjugis eius...”[145]. “Robertus dux Burgundiorum cum uxore mea Helia” donated “terram...Villare Bichet...in pago Belnensi” to Saint-Germain-des-Prés, with the consent of “filiorum nostrorum Hugonis et Henrici”, by charter dated to [1043/44][146]. “Robertus dux et duo filii mei Hugo et Henricus” renounced rights to revenue from land “in Gilliaco” in favour of Saint-Germain-des-Prés by charter dated 2 Feb 1053[147]. The necrology of Cîteaux records the death "VIII Id Mar" of "Robertus…dux Burgundie"[148]. The necrology of Molesme records the death "XV Kal Apr" of "Robertus dux Burgundie et Ermengardis uxor eius"[149]. There is some mystery surrounding his death: a narrative by Pierre de Saint-Julien deacon of Chalon records that “Robertus dux” died “nuper dedecorose” in the church of Fleury-sur-Ouche, without providing further details[150].
     "m firstly ([1033], repudiated [1048/50]) HELIE de Semur, daughter of DALMAS [I] Seigneur de Semur-en-Brionnais & his wife Aramburge --- ([1016]-Semur-en-Brionnais, Saône-et-Loire 22 Apr after 1055). "Robertus dux Burgundionum" confirmed the possessions of Cluny by charter dated [1040] subscribed by "Ilie uxoris eius"[151]. The date of the marriage is deduced from the charter, dated to [1034], which is subscribed by "Roberti ducis et uxoris sue", under which "Gibuinus" confirmed a donation to Saint-Etienne de Dijon[152]. “Robertus Burgundie dux” renounced rights “in villa...Gilliacus...” in favour of Saint-Germain-des-Prés by charter dated 22 Sep 1040, subscribed by “...Elie conjugis eius...”[153]. "Robertus…dux et rector inferioris Burgundiæ" donated property to Saint-Bénigne-de-Dijon by charter dated 1 Mar 1043 which names "Helie uxoris mee…"[154]. “Robertus dux Burgundiorum cum uxore mea Helia” donated “terram...Villare Bichet...in pago Belnensi” to Saint-Germain-des-Prés, with the consent of “filiorum nostrorum Hugonis et Henrici”, by charter dated to [1043/44][155]. Her parentage is confirmed by the Vita S Hugonis, which records that "Dux Burgundie, gener eius" killed the father of St Hugues (abbot of Cluny) by his own hand[156]. The "Notes historiques sur le prieuré de Marcigny", included in the cartulary of Marcigny-sur-Loire, name (in order) "sancti Hugonis abbatis Cluniacensis et Gaufredi Sinemurensis, Andræ levitæ, Joceranni et Dalmatii, et sororum eorundem…Materdis, Adalaidæ et Cecilæ atque Evellæ" as children of "Dalmatius", but do not make the link with Duke Robert[157]. "Robertus dux et uxor sua Hylia" donated money to the church of Saint-Etienne de Dijon by undated charter[158]. She was repudiated, presumably on grounds of consanguinity, before [1050] when Jean Abbot of Fécamp wrote to Pope Leo IX recording that "Tedbaldo comite et Burgundionum…duce R" had "abdicatis legitimi thori connumbiis" and had "in inhonestis et consanguinitate fœdatis thalamis"[159]. She became a nun as PETRONILLE after her repudiation[160]. The necrology of Auxerre cathedral records the death 22 Apr of "Helya uxor Rotberti ducis"[161].
     "m secondly ([1049]) as her second husband, ERMENGARDE d'Anjou, widow of GEOFFROY II "Ferréol" Seigneur de Château-Landon, Comte de Gâtinais, daughter of FOULQUES III "Nerra/the Black" Comte d’Anjou & his second wife Hildegarde de Metz ([1015/20]-[church of Fleury-sur-Ouche, Côte d’Or 18 Mar 1076]). The Historiæ Andegavensis names "Goffridi de Castro Landono et Ermengardis filia Fulconis Comitis Andegavensis" as parents of "Fulco comes Andegavensis"[162]. Considering that she gave birth to at least one child by her second marriage, it is unlikely that Ermengarde was born earlier than [1015]. She must therefore have been considerably younger than her brother. Her first marriage is dated very approximately to [1035]. Her second marriage is deduced from a genealogy of the Comtes d'Anjou which names "Fulco (pater) Gosfridus et Ermengardis (mater) Gosfridus (et) Fulco (et) Hildegardis, de altero patre, filia Roberti ducis fratris Henrici regis"[163]. Her second marriage is dated from the letter written before [1050] by Jean Abbot of Fécamp to Pope Leo IX recording that "Tedbaldo comite et Burgundionum…duce R" had "abdicatis legitimi thori connumbiis" and had "in inhonestis et consanguinitate fœdatis thalamis"[164]. The necrology of Molesme records the death "XV Kal Apr" of "Robertus dux Burgundie et Ermengardis uxor eius"[165]. This suggests that Ermengarde died on the same day as her husband, possibly at the same place and in the same circumstances, although it is not infrequent for medieval necrologies to record couples on the same day maybe in commemoration of a joint donation to the religious institution in question. No other source which elucidates the circumstances of Ermengarde’s death has been identified.
Med Lands cites:
[142] Hugonis Floriacensis, Liber qui Modernorum Regum Francorum continet Actus 9, MGH SS IX, p. 385, additional manuscript quoted in footnote ***.
[143] Rodulfi Glabri, Historiarum III.9, MGH SS VII, p. 64.
[144] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 554.
[145] Paris Saint-Germain-des-Prés, Tome I, LV, p. 87.
[146] Paris Saint-Germain-des-Prés, Tome I, LVII, p. 87.
[147] Paris Saint-Germain-des-Prés, Tome I, LIX, p. 95.
[148] Obituaires de Lyon II, Diocèse de Chalon-sur-Saône, Abbaye chef d'ordre de Cîteaux, p. 608.
[149] Petit, Vol. I, p. 386.
[150] Du Chesne (1625), Vergy, Preuves, p. 79.
[151] Cluny, Tome IV, 2949, p. 149.
[152] Petit, Vol. I, 21, p. 362.
[153] Paris Saint-Germain-des-Prés, Tome I, LV, p. 87.
[154] Dijon Saint-Bénigne II, 324, p. 104.
[155] Paris Saint-Germain-des-Prés, Tome I, LVII, p. 87.
[156] Hildeberti Vita S Hugonis chap. 2, par. 9, quoted in Petit, Vol. I, p. 167 footnote 2. The relevant passage has not been found in Vita, auctore Hildeberto Cenomanensi Episcopo, Migne, J.-P. (ed.) Patrologiæ cursus completus, Series Latina, Vol. 159, cols. 859-894.
[157] Marcigny-sur-Loire, 2, p. 1.
[158] Dijon Saint-Etienne, [Tome I], 91, p. 108.
[159] Bouchard (1987), p. 257, citing Migne, J.-P. (ed.) Patrologiæ cursus completus, Series Latina, Vol. 143, cols. 799-800.
[160] Kerrebrouck (2000), p. 554.
[161] Histoire d'Auxerre, Tome IV, p. 13.
[162] Historiæ Andegavensis, RHGF X, p. 203.
[163] Halphen & Poupardin (1913), p. 247.
[164] Bouchard (1987), p. 257, citing Migne, J.-P. (ed.) Patrologiæ cursus completus, Series Latina, Vol. 143, cols. 799-800.
[165] Petit, Vol. V, p. 386.21

; Per Genealogy.EU (Capet 9): “Robert I "le Vieux", Duc de Bourgogne (1032-76), Cte d'Auxerre (1040-60), *1011, +Fleury-sur-Ouche 21.3.1076, bur Sémur; 1m: ca 1033 (repudiated 1046) Helie, dau.of Damas de Sémur by Aramburge de Bourgogne; 2m: ca 1048 Ermengarde=Blanche d'Anjou (*ca 1018 +18.3.1076)”.23

; Per Med Lands:
     "GEOFFROY [II] de Gâtinais, son of HUGUES du Perche Comte de Gâtinais & his wife Beatrix de Mâcon (-30 Apr [1043/47]). His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated 26 May 1028 under which Francon Bishop of Paris agreed with "Albericum illius supradicti Gosfredi filium et heredum" concerning a prior grant by the bishop's predecessor to "Gosfrido comiti Landonensi castri", with the approval of "fratribus ipsius Alberici, filiis Hugonis Pertice…Gosfredo et Letoldo"[200]. A genealogy presented by Foulques IV "le Réchin" Comte d'Anjou to the bishop of Angers in [1085], justifying the annulment of his fourth marriage with the daughter of Gauthier Comte de Brienne, states that "ex Letaldo, Albericus natus est, ex Alberico, Beatrix, ex Beatrice, Gosfredus de Castello Landonensi, ex Gaufrido, Gaufridus et Fulco presens"[201]. His name is confirmed by a charter (undated?) under which [his son] Geoffroy III Comte d’Anjou donated fishing rights on the Mayenne river to Angers Saint-Serge, for the souls of “Geoffroy son père et de Geoffroy Martel son oncle”[202]. He succeeded his half-brother as Comte de Gâtinais, Seigneur de Château-Landon. The fact that Aubry Comte de Gâtinais and Geoffroy [II] Comte de Gâtinais were two different individuals, the inevitable conclusion from the two sources cited, is somewhat clouded by the Historia Comitum Andegavorum which records that "Gaufridus Martellus…nepotibus suis" were "filiis Adhelæ sororis suæ et Alberici comitis de Gastinais"[203], by the Chronicle of Saint-Maxence which names "Alberici Contracti comitis de Gastina" as father of "Goffredus et Fulco Rechin"[204], and by Orderic Vitalis who records that “Goisfredus Martellus Andegavensium comes” died childless and left “Goisfredo nepoti suo Alberici Wastinensium comitis filio” as his heir[205]. No source has been identified which confirms Geoffroy’s date of death, but [1043/47] seems a reasonable estimate given the likely dates of birth of his children and the second marriage of his widow. .
     "m ([1035]) as her first husband, ERMENGARDE d'Anjou, daughter of FOULQUES III "Nerra" Comte d'Anjou & his second wife Hildegard [de Metz] ([1015/20]-[church of Fleury-sur-Ouche, Côte d’Or 18 Mar 1076]). The Historiæ Andegavensis names "Goffridi de Castro Landono et Ermengardis filia Fulconis Comitis Andegavensis" as parents of "Fulco comes Andegavensis"[206]. Considering that she gave birth to at least one child by her second marriage, it is unlikely that Ermengarde was born earlier than [1015]. She must therefore have been considerably younger than her brother. Her first marriage is dated very approximately to [1035]. She married secondly ([1049]) as his second wife, Robert I "le Vieux" Duke of Burgundy. Her second marriage is deduced from a genealogy of the Comtes d'Anjou which names "Fulco (pater) Gosfridus et Ermengardis (mater) Gosfridus (et) Fulco (et) Hildegardis, de altero patre, filia Roberti ducis fratris Henrici regis"[207]. Her second marriage is dated from the letter written before [1050] by Jean Abbot of Fécamp to Pope Leo IX recording that "Tedbaldo comite et Burgundionum…duce R" had "abdicatis legitimi thori connumbiis" and had "in inhonestis et consanguinitate fœdatis thalamis"[208]. The necrology of Molesme records the death "XV Kal Apr" of "Robertus dux Burgundie et Ermengardis uxor eius"[209]. This entry suggests that Ermengarde died on the same day as her husband, possibly at the same place and in the same circumstances, although it is not infrequent for medieval necrologies to record couples on the same day maybe in commemoration of a joint donation to the religious institution in question. No other source which elucidates the circumstances of Ermengarde’s death has been identified.
Med Lands cites:
[200] Devaux 'Comtes de Gâtinais' (1885), pp. 81-2, and Paris Notre-Dame, Tome I, p. 326.
[201] Saint-Phalle 'Les comtes de Gâtinais', p. 231, citing Poupardin, R. 'Généalogies angevines', Mélanges de l'Ecole française de Rome 20 (1900), p. 208, no. 6.
[202] Père Anselme, Tome VI, p. 13, citing “Cartulaire de St Serge”.
[203] Historia Comitum Andegavorum, Chroniques d'Anjou, p. 333.
[204] Chronicon sancti Maxentii Pictavensis, Chroniques des Eglises d'Anjou, p. 402.
[205] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber III, VI, p. 92.
[206] Historiæ Andegavensis, RHGF X, p. 203.
[207] Halphen & Poupardin (1913), p. 247.
[208] Migne, J.-P. (ed.) Patrologiæ cursus completus, Series Latina, Vol. 143, cols. 799-800, cited in Bouchard (1987), p. 257.
[209] Petit, Vol. V, p. 386.15


Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, Band II, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. Page 24
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 2:20.9


; This is the same person as ”Ermengarde of Anjou, Duchess of Burgundy” at Wikipedia and as ”Ermengarde d'Anjou (morte en 1076)” at Wikipédia (FR).


This is Also the same person as ”Ermengarde d'Anjou” at The Henry Project.24,25,6 GAV-25 EDV-26 GKJ-26.

; Per Med Lands:
     "ERMENGARDE d'Anjou ([1015/20]-[church of Fleury-sur-Ouche, Côte d’Or 18 Mar 1076]). The Historiæ Andegavensis names "Goffridi de Castro Landono et Ermengardis filia Fulconis Comitis Andegavensis" as parents of "Fulco comes Andegavensis"[196]. Considering that she gave birth to at least one child by her second marriage, it is unlikely that Ermengarde was born earlier than [1015]. She must therefore have been considerably younger than her brother. Her first marriage is dated very approximately to [1035]. Her second marriage is deduced from a genealogy of the Comtes d'Anjou which names "Fulco (pater) Gosfridus et Ermengardis (mater) Gosfridus (et) Fulco (et) Hildegardis, de altero patre, filia Roberti ducis fratris Henrici regis"[197]. Her second marriage is dated from the letter written before [1050] by Jean Abbot of Fécamp to Pope Leo IX recording that "Tedbaldo comite et Burgundionum…duce R" had "abdicatis legitimi thori connumbiis" and had "in inhonestis et consanguinitate fœdatis thalamis"[198]. The necrology of Molesme records the death "XV Kal Apr" of "Robertus dux Burgundie et Ermengardis uxor eius"[199]. This entry suggests that Ermengarde died on the same day as her husband, possibly at the same place and in the same circumstances, although it is not infrequent for medieval necrologies to record couples on the same day maybe in commemoration of a joint donation to the religious institution in question. No other source which elucidates the circumstances of Ermengarde’s death has been identified.
     "m firstly ([1035]) GEOFFROY II "Ferréol" Seigneur de Château-Landon, Comte de Gâtinais, son of HUGUES du Perche Comte de Gâtinais & his wife Beatrix de Mâcon (-30 Apr [1043/47]).
     "m secondly (1049) as his second wife, ROBERT I "le Vieux" Duke of Burgundy, son of ROBERT II "le Pieux" King of France & his third wife Constance d'Arles ([1007]-church of Fleury-sur-Ouche, Côte d’Or 18 Mar 1076, bur Abbaye de Saint-Seine, Côte d’Or)."
Med Lands cites:
[195] Anjou Charité, VIII, p. 10.
[196] Historiæ Andegavensis, RHGF X, p. 203.
[197] Halphen & Poupardin (1913), p. 247.
[198] Migne, J.-P. (ed.) Patrologiæ cursus completus, Series Latina, Vol. 143, cols. 799-800, cited in Bouchard (1987), p. 257.
[199] Petit, Vol. V, p. 386.12


; Per Genealogy.EU (Anjou): "Ermengarde dit Blanche, *ca 1018, +murdered at Fleury-sur-Ouche 18.3.1076; 1m: ca 1035 Geoffroy Ferreol de Château-Landon, Cte de Gâtinais (+1043/46); 2m: ca 1048 Duke Robert I of Burgundy (*1011 +1076.)2" She was Duchess of Burgundy between 1035 and 1048.24

Family 2

Robert I "le Vieux" (?) Duc de Bourgogne, Cte d'Auxerre b. c 1011, d. 21 Mar 1076
Child

Citations

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  11. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Anjou 2 page (The House of Anjou): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/anjou/anjou2.html#Is
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  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Geoffrey Ferréol de Château-Landon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020217&tree=LEO
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    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 118-23, p. 106. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
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Agnès d'Évreux1,2,3,4,5

F, #4827, b. circa 1038, d. 14 February 1116
FatherRichard d'Evreux 2nd Comte d'Evreux1,5,4,6,7,3,2 b. c 986, d. 1067
MotherGodehilde (?)1,4,2,6,7,3 d. a 1055
ReferenceGAV25 EDV25
Last Edited17 Nov 2020
     Agnès d'Évreux was born circa 1038 at Evreux, Normandy, France; Racines et Histoire (Montfort) says b. ca 1030/42; Racines et Histoire (Evreux) says b. 1030/32.1,6,7 She married Simon I “le Vieux” de Montfort seigneur de Montfort L'Amaury, son of Amaury II de Montfort Comte d'Evreux, Comte de Montfort and Bertrade/Berteis de GomezGometz(?), before 1070;
His 3rd wife; Med Lands and Racines et Histoire (Montfortand Evreux pages) say m. bef 1070; Roglo says m. 1060
Per the Henry Project: "GND = Guillaume de Jumièges, Gesta Normannorum Ducum, as edited in Elisabeth van Houts, ed. & trans., The Gesta Normannorum Ducum of William of Jumièges, Orderic Vitalis and Robert of Torigni, 2 vols., (Oxford, 1992). Citation is by book and chapter of Guillaume's work, with the volume and page number of the edition by van Houts in parentheses. Unless otherwise stated, references are to Guillaume's work, and not to later additions by such authors as Orderic Vitalis and Robert de Torigni."
OV = Marjorie Chibnall, ed. & trans., The Ecclesiastical History of Orderic Vitalis, 6 vols. (Oxford, 1969-80).8,9,10,11,12,6,5,1,4,7,3
Agnès d'Évreux died on 14 February 1116 at Île-de-France, France.13
Agnès d'Évreux was buried after 14 February 1116 at Prieure Saint-Thomas, Epernon, Departement d'Eure-et-Loir, Centre, France,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1 Nov 1030, Evreux, Departement de l'Eure, Haute-Normandie, France
     DEATH     14 Feb 1116 (aged 85), Île-de-France, France
     Agnès d'EVREUX, Comtesse 1030–1116
     BIRTH 01 NOV 1030 • Évreux, Eure, Haute-Normandie, France
     DEATH 14 FEB 1116 • Ile De France, France
     Family Members
     Parents
          Richard d' Evreux 986–1067
     Spouse
          Simon I de Montfort 1038–1087
     Siblings
          William d'Evreux unknown–1118
     Children
          Bertrade de Montfort 1070–1117
     BURIAL     Prieure Saint-Thomas, Epernon, Departement d'Eure-et-Loir, Centre, France
     Created by: Our Family History
     Added: 2 May 2018
     Find a Grave Memorial 189378112.13
     GAV-25 EDV-25 GKJ-26.

; This is the same person as ”Agnès d'Évreux” at Wikipedia at Wikipédia (FR).


This also is the same person as ”Agnes d'Évreux” at The Henry Project.14,2

Reference: Genealogics cites: Les seize quartiers des Reines et Imperatrices Francaises, 1977, Saillot, Jacques. 183.1

; Per Racines et Histoire (Evreux): “Agnès d’Evreux ° 1030/32 (Evreux)
     ép. 1) avant 1070 Simon de Montfort ° ~1025 + 25/09/1087 (fils d’Amauri et de Bertrade de Gometz)
     postérité des comtes d’Evreux de la maison de Montfort ”.7

; Per Med Lands:
     "AGNES d'Evreux . Orderic Vitalis records that “Radulfus...de Conchis filius Rogerii de Toenia” kidnapped “Agnetem uterinam sororem suam, Ricardi Ebroicensium comitis filiam” by night and married her to “Simoni de Monteforti”, who in exchange granted “filiam eiusdem Simonis...Isabel” to Raoul[683]. In other passages Orderic names her and specifies that she was the daughter of Richard and sister of Guillaume[684]. The date of her marriage is estimated from the marriage of her daughter which is dated to 1089.
     "m ([before 1070]) as his third wife, SIMON Seigneur de Montfort-l'Amaury, son of AMAURY Seigneur de Montfort & his wife Bertrade --- (-25 Sep [1087], bur Epernon)."
Med Lands cites:
[683] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber V, XIII, pp. 403-4.
[684] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. VI, Book XI, p. 167, and Book XII, p. 189.4

; Per Racines et Histoire (Montfort): “Simon 1er “le Vieux” de Montfort ° ~1030 + 25/09/1087 (inh. à Epernon) seigneur de Montfort (~1060) (charte de Philippe 1er du 29/05/1067 à Saint-Martin-des-Champs ; charte de Louis VII en 1160 pour Coulombs)
     ép. 1) ~1055 Isabelle de Broyes, dame de Nogent-Le-Roi (Broyes, près Nogent-le-Roi) ° ~1034 (fille d’Hugues 1er «Bardoul», seigneur de Broyes, Capitaine de Montfort, et d’Alvidis)
     ép. 2) ?
     ép. 3) avant 1070 Agnès d’Evreux ° ~1030/42 (fille de Richard, comte d’Evreux et de Godehilde (Godechildis) de Tosny ; demi-soeur de Raoul, son gendre ; veuve de Guillaume de Beny, seigneur de Conches)”.6
; Per Genealogy.EU (Montfort): “A2. Simon sn de Montfort-l'Amaury, +1087; 1m: ca 1055 Isabel de Broyes, Dame de Nogent; 2m: Csse Agnes d'Evreux”.15
; Per Racines et Histoire (Beynes): “Simon 1er de Montfort + 1087 fonde 1072 le Prieuré Saint-Laurent de Montfort
     ép.1) Elisabeth, dame de Nogent (fille d’Hugues Bardoul)
     ép.2) Agnès d’Evreux (fille de Richard, comte d’Evreux)”.5

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes d'Evreux: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079536&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
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  3. [S2164] Roglo Genealogical database, online http://roglo.eu/roglo, Agnès d'Évreux: http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en;i=1386771. Hereinafter cited as Roglo Database.
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  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Montfort (act. -L’Amaury, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Montfort.pdf
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  8. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 158-159, de MONTFORT 3. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  9. [S2164] Roglo Database, online http://roglo.eu/roglo, Simon l'Aîné: http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=en&m=NG&n=Simon+l%27A%C3%AEn%C3%A9&fn=&sn=
  10. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Simon I de Montfort l'Amaury: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/simon000.htm
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  12. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#SimonIIMontfortAmaurydied1087B
  13. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 08 September 2020), memorial page for Agnès d'Évreux de Montfort (1 Nov 1030–14 Feb 1116), Find a Grave Memorial no. 189378112, citing Prieure Saint-Thomas, Epernon, Departement d'Eure-et-Loir, Centre, France; Maintained by Our Family History (contributor 47719401), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/189378112/agn%C3%A8s-de_montfort. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  14. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Agnès d'Évreux: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agn%C3%A8s_d%27%C3%89vreux. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  15. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Montfort Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/montfort.html#S2
  16. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 159, de MONTFORT 3:iv.
  17. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/simon000.htm
  18. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 118-23, p. 106. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  19. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Capet 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet4.html
  20. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bertrade de Montfort-l'Amaury: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00007642&tree=LEO
  21. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PARIS%20REGION%20NOBILITY.htm#BertradeMontfortdied1115
  22. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 156, de MONTFORT of Leicester 4.
  23. [S2164] Roglo Database, online http://roglo.eu/roglo, Simon l'Aîné: http://geneweb.inria.fr/roglo?lang=en;i=121577.
  24. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Amaury III de Montfort: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120972&tree=LEO
  25. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY%20NOBILITY.htm#AmauryIIIEvreuxdiedafter1136B
  26. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 159, de MONTFORT 3:iii.
  27. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beynes.pdf, p. 2.

Hélie I (Elias) "de la Flèche" de Beaugency seigneur de La Flèche, Comte du Maine1,2,3

M, #4828, b. circa 1060, d. 11 July 1110
FatherJean de Beaugency Seigneur de La Flèche1,4,5,2,6,3 b. c 1030, d. b 1097
MotherPaule (?) du Maine7,8,3 d. 1095
ReferenceGAV24 EDV25
Last Edited27 Aug 2020
     Hélie I (Elias) "de la Flèche" de Beaugency seigneur de La Flèche, Comte du Maine was born circa 1060 at Maine, France.9,10,11 He married Matilda/Mahaud de Château-du-Loir dame du Mayet, dame de Château-du-Loire, Countess, daughter of Gervais II de Château-du-Loir seigneur de Château-du-Loir and Éremburge, (?), circa March 1090;
His 1st wife.1,12,2,13,14,15,3 Hélie I (Elias) "de la Flèche" de Beaugency seigneur de La Flèche, Comte du Maine married Agnes (?) de Poitou, daughter of Guy-Guillaume VI (VIII) (?) Duke of Aquitaine, Count of Poitou and Hildegarde (Aldegarde) (?) de Bourgogne, in March 1109;
Her 2nd husband; his 2nd wife.16,1,2,3
Hélie I (Elias) "de la Flèche" de Beaugency seigneur de La Flèche, Comte du Maine died on 11 July 1110; The Henry Project cites: Chr. S. Albini Andegav; Chr. S. Serg. Andegav. (year only); Nec. Mans 163-4 (date)
Chr. S. Albini Andegav. = Chronicæ Sancti Albini Andegavensis, in Marchegay & Mabille, eds., Chroniques des Églises d'Anjou (Paris, 1869), 19-61.
Chr. S. Serg. Andegav. = Chronica Sancti Sergii Andegavensis, in Marchegay & Mabille, eds., Chroniques des Églises d'Anjou (Paris, 1869), 129-152.
Nec. Mans = Busson & Ledru, Nécrologe-obituaire de la Cathédrale du Mans (Archives Historiques du Maine 7, Le Mans, 1906).1,17,18,2,13,3
Hélie I (Elias) "de la Flèche" de Beaugency seigneur de La Flèche, Comte du Maine was buried after 11 July 1110 at Collégiale Saint-Pierre-la-Cour, Le Mans, Departement de la Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France (now),

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     unknown
     DEATH     11 Jul 1110
     Élie (also Hélie or Elias), called de la Flèche or de Baugency, was the Count of Maine, succeeding his cousin Hugh V, Count of Maine.
He was the son of Jean de la Flèche and Paula, daughter of Herbert I, Count of Maine.
In 1092, his cousin Hugh V sold Maine to him for 10,000 shillings. With the support of Fulk IV of Anjou, he continued the war with Robert II of Normandy. After Robert's departure with the First Crusade, Elias made peace with William Rufus, Robert's regent in Normandy.
In 1090 Elias married Matilda, daughter of Gervais II, Lord of Château-du-Loir. They had a daughter: Eremburg, married Fulk V d'Anjou. 3
     In 1109, Élie remarried to Agnes, the daughter of William de Poitou and relict of Alfonso VI de Castile. She died the following year.
     Family Members
     Parents
      Jean de la Fleche de Beaugency 1030–1097
      Paula du Maine unknown–1095
     Spouse
      Matilde de Chateau du Loire 1060–1108
     Children
      Eremburge De Beaugency 1096–1126
     BURIAL     Collégiale Saint-Pierre-la-Cour, Le Mans, Departement de la Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France
     Created by: Kat
     Added: 28 Dec 2013
     Find A Grave Memorial 122365741.14
     He was Count of Maine 1192-1110.3

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 692.
2. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 6.
3. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales Edinburgh, 1977., Gerald Paget, Reference: 60.
4. Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: I 28.19,20


; Per Genealogics:
     "Hélie was the son of Jean, seigneur de La Flèche, and Paule du Maine. He was count of Maine from 1093 to 1110.
     "According to some sources his first wife was Agnès de Poitou, repudiated by Alfonso VI 'the Brave', king of Castile and León, and daughter of Guillaume VI-VIII de Poitou, duc d'Aquitaine, comte de Poitou, and his second wife Mathilde. If this marriage occurred there is no record of progeny from it. Agnès is recorded as dying about 1080.
     "About 1090 Hélie married Matilda, dame de Château-du-Loir, daughter of Gervais, sire de Château-du-Loir, and his wife Eremburge. They had a daughter Eremburge who would have progeny.
     "In 1093 Hélie purchased the county of Maine from his cousin Hugo/Hugues, son of Alberto Azzo II, marchese d'Este, and Garsende de Maine, daughter of Herbert I Eveille-Chien, comte de Maine. Hugo's father had tried to acquire Maine for him from his marriage to Gersende, on the grounds that she was the heiress of Herbert I Eveille-Chien following the death of her brother, his son Hugues IV and grandson of Herbert II. Hugo was declared count, but he could not prevail against the dukes of Normandy. With the support of Foulques IV 'Rechin', comte d'Anjou, Hélie continued to fight against the Normandy dukes. However, after the departure of Robert II Curthose, duke of Normandy, on crusade, Robert's brother William II Rufus, king of England, became ruler of Normandy and made peace with Hélie.
     "Hélie died on 11 July 1110. In that year his daughter Eremburge married Foulques V 'the Young', comte d'Anjou, son of Foulques IV 'Rechin', who would unite Maine and Anjou."20

; This is the same person as ”Hélie (Helias) de la Flèche” at The Henry Project.3 GAV-24 EDV-25 GKJ-25. He was Lord of Château-du-Loir (jure uxoris) between 1095 and 1110.18 He was Lord of Château-du-Loir (jure uxoris) between 1095 and 1110.17

Family 2

Agnes (?) de Poitou b. c 1075, d. a 1110

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hélie I de la Flèche: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029108&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaugency.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Hélie (Helias) de la Flèche: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/helia000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jean: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029107&tree=LEO
  5. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Jean de La Flèche (Johannes de Fissa): http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/john0000.htm
  6. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 12 October 2019), memorial page for Jean de la Fleche de Beaugency (1030–1097), Find A Grave Memorial no. 157850561, citing Collégiale Saint-Pierre-la-Cour, Le Mans, Departement de la Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France ; Maintained by Memerizion (contributor 48072664), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/157850561/jean-de_la_fleche-de_beaugency. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Paule du Maine: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029107&tree=LEO
  8. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Paula: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/paula000.htm
  9. [S602] Inc. Brøderbund Software, World Family Tree Vol. 14, Ed. 1, Family #2699 (n.p.: Release date: October 20, 1997, unknown publish date).
  10. [S619] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 27 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 6, Ed. 1, Family #6-1556 (n.p.: Release date: August 22, 1996, unknown publish date).
  11. [S616] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 26 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 18, Ed. 1, Family #18-0770 (n.p.: Release date: March 27, 1998, unknown publish date).
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Matilda: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029109&tree=LEO
  13. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bellême.pdf, p. 3.
  14. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 12 October 2019), memorial page for Élie I du Maine (unknown–11 Jul 1110), Find A Grave Memorial no. 122365741, citing Collégiale Saint-Pierre-la-Cour, Le Mans, Departement de la Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France ; Maintained by Kat (contributor 47496397), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/122365741/_lie_i-du_maine
  15. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Mathilde de Château-du-Loir: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/mathi001.htm
  16. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes de Poitou: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020527&tree=LEO
  17. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/helia000.htm
  18. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Hélie (Helias) de la Flèche: http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/helia000.htm
  19. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 277. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  20. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hélie I de la Flèche: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029108&tree=LEO
  21. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eremburge: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00004070&tree=LEO
  22. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Beaugency ancien Boisgency, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaugency.pdf
  23. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille de Bellême Seigneurs d’Alençon & Château-Gontier, & Château-Renaud, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Belleme.pdf
  24. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/fulk0005.htm
  25. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MAINE.htm#EremburgeMFoulquesVAnjou. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Matilda/Mahaud de Château-du-Loir dame du Mayet, dame de Château-du-Loire, Countess1,2,3

F, #4829, b. 1060, d. 1099
FatherGervais II de Château-du-Loir seigneur de Château-du-Loir1,4,5,6,7,3 b. 1043, d. bt 1095 - 1097
MotherÉremburge, (?)1,8,6,9,3 b. c 1040, d. 1092
ReferenceGAV24 EDV25
Last Edited27 Aug 2020
     Matilda/Mahaud de Château-du-Loir dame du Mayet, dame de Château-du-Loire, Countess was born in 1060 at Chateau-du-Loir, Departement de la Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France (now).10 She married Hélie I (Elias) "de la Flèche" de Beaugency seigneur de La Flèche, Comte du Maine, son of Jean de Beaugency Seigneur de La Flèche and Paule (?) du Maine, circa March 1090;
His 1st wife.11,1,2,5,12,3,13
Matilda/Mahaud de Château-du-Loir dame du Mayet, dame de Château-du-Loire, Countess died in 1099 at France; Racines et Histoire says d. ca 1109; Find A Grave says d. 1108; The Henry Project says d. "A few days before 27 March 1099."1,2,10,3
Matilda/Mahaud de Château-du-Loir dame du Mayet, dame de Château-du-Loire, Countess was buried in 1099 at Collégiale Saint-Pierre-la-Cour, Le Mans, Departement de la Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France (now),

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1060, Chateau-du-Loir, Departement de la Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France
     DEATH     1108 (aged 47–48), France
     Countess. Married 1090
     Family Members
     Parents
      Gervais II de Château-du-Loir 1043–1095
      Erembourge de Chateau du Loire 1040–1092
     Spouse
      Élie I du Maine unknown–1110
     Children
      Eremburge De Beaugency 1096–1126
     BURIAL     Collégiale Saint-Pierre-la-Cour, Le Mans, Departement de la Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France
     Created by: Memerizion
     Added: 6 Feb 2016
     Find A Grave Memorial 157867652
     SPONSORED BY Christian H. F. Riley.10
     ; This is the same person as ”Mathilde de Château-du-Loir” at The Henry Project.3 GAV-24 EDV-25 GKJ-25.

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales Edinburgh, 1977., Gerald Paget, Reference: 60.
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIII 68.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Matilda: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029109&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaugency.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Mathilde de Château-du-Loir: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/mathi001.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gervais: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00141488&tree=LEO
  5. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bellême.pdf, p. 3.
  6. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/mainnob.htm#RobertChateauLoirdied1065B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  7. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Gervaise II de Château-du-Loir: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/gerva000.htm
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eremburge: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00141489&tree=LEO
  9. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Éremburge: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/eremb001.htm
  10. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 12 October 2019), memorial page for Matilde de Chateau du Loire (1060–1108), Find A Grave Memorial no. 157867652, citing Collégiale Saint-Pierre-la-Cour, Le Mans, Departement de la Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France ; Maintained by Memerizion (contributor 48072664), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/157867652/matilde-de_chateau_du_loire. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hélie I de la Flèche: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029108&tree=LEO
  12. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 12 October 2019), memorial page for Élie I du Maine (unknown–11 Jul 1110), Find A Grave Memorial no. 122365741, citing Collégiale Saint-Pierre-la-Cour, Le Mans, Departement de la Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France ; Maintained by Kat (contributor 47496397), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/122365741/_lie_i-du_maine
  13. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Hélie (Helias) de la Flèche: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/helia000.htm
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eremburge: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00004070&tree=LEO
  15. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille de Bellême Seigneurs d’Alençon & Château-Gontier, & Château-Renaud, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Belleme.pdf
  16. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Beaugency ancien Boisgency, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaugency.pdf
  17. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MAINE.htm#EremburgeMFoulquesVAnjou

Jean de Beaugency Seigneur de La Flèche1,2,3,4

M, #4830, b. circa 1030, d. before 1097
FatherLancelin 1er (Landry) de Beaugency seigneur de Beaugency et de la Flèche5,3,6,4 d. 1055
ReferenceGAV25 EDV26
Last Edited27 Aug 2020
     Jean de Beaugency Seigneur de La Flèche married Paule (?) du Maine, daughter of Heribert I "Eveille-Chien" (?) Comte du Maine.7,8,9,4 Jean de Beaugency Seigneur de La Flèche was born circa 1030 at Fleche, Sarthe, France.10
Jean de Beaugency Seigneur de La Flèche died before 1097; The Henry Project says s. after 13 February 1087.1,3,4
Jean de Beaugency Seigneur de La Flèche was buried before 1097 at Collégiale Saint-Pierre-la-Cour, Le Mans, Departement de la Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France (now),

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1030, Beaugency, Departement du Loiret, Centre, France
     DEATH     1097 (aged 66–67), France
     Family Members
     Parents
      Lancelin de Beaugency
     Spouse
      Paula du Maine unknown–1095
     Children
      Élie I du Maine unknown–1110
     BURIAL     Collégiale Saint-Pierre-la-Cour, Le Mans, Departement de la Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France
     Created by: Memerizion
     Added: 5 Feb 2016
     Find A Grave Memorial 157850561.6
     ; This is the same person as ”Jean de La Flèche (Johannes de Fissa)” at the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.4

; Racines et Histoire (Beaugency) says Jean married "Herberge d'Este" (b ca 1072 d bef 1110). However, The Henry Project and Genelaogics both say he married Pauline du Maine.

Per Racines et Histoire (BEaugency): "Jean de Beaugency dit «de La Flèche» ° ~1047 + avant 1097 (1095 ?) seigneur de La Flèche (1060)
     ép. ~1075/85 Herberge d’Este dite «du Maine» ° ~1072 + avant 1110 (1109 ?) (fille d’Ugo V d’Este et d’Heria de Hauteville.)11,8,12 "

; This is the same person as "Jean de Beaugency" at Wikipédia (Fr.)13

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 692.
2. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales Edinburgh, 1977., Gerald Paget, Reference: 60.11


; Per Med Lands:
     "JEAN de la Flèche, son of LANCELIN [I] de Baugency & his wife --- (-[1097], bur Angers, Saint-Aubin). Son of Lancelin according to Orderic Vitalis, who says that his mother was the daughter of the Comte du Maine[175], which appears to result from confusion with his wife. "Domna Agnes comitissa" [wife of Geoffroy II "Martel" Comte d´Anjou] bought "ecclesiam Sancti-Beati…juxta…castrum Vindocini" from "Lancelino dominico vasso de castro Balgentiaco" and "apud Castrum-Dunum alteram ecclesiam" from "filiis eiusdem Lancelino…Johanne et Lancelino" by charter dated to before 1040[176]. A charter dated 13 Feb 1087 records donations to Angers Saint-Aubin by "Johannes de Fissa", with the consent of "Helias filius eius"[177]. A charter dated to [1097] records that "Johannes de Fissa" became a monk after falling ill at Château-Gonthier and died soon after[178]. A charter dated to [1097] records confirmation of donations to Angers Saint-Aubin by "Elias…filius eius…et frater eius Gaufridus" after the burial of their father[179].
     "m PAULE du Maine, daughter of HERIBERT [I] "Eveille-chien" Comte du Maine & his wife --- ([1025/35]-). Orderic Vitalis records that "Hugo filius Herberti" and his wife “Bertam ipsius relictam, Tedbaldi Blesensium comitis sororem” had “filium...Herbertum et tres filias”, of whom the third married “Johanni domino castri...Flecchia” (which would be difficult to sustain chronologically and confuses the children of Hugues [IV] Comte du Maine with his sisters) and had three children “Goisbertum, Heliam et Enoch”[180]. Her father is named by Orderic Vitalis, who also records her marriage to "Lancelin de Beaugency"[181]. However, in another passage the same source names "Helias, Johannis et Paulæ filius, Hugonis Cenomannorum consulis consobrinus"[182]. From a chronological point of view, it is more likely that Jean, son of Lancelin de Baugency, was the husband of Paule du Maine."
Med Lands cites:
[175] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. IV, Book VIII, p. 197.
[176] Vendôme La Trinité, Tome I, XXII, p. 42.
[177] Angers Saint-Aubin, Tome II, DCCXLVI, p. 237.
[178] Angers Saint-Aubin, Tome II, DCCXLVIII, p. 239.
[179] Angers Saint-Aubin, Tome II, DCCXLIX, p. 240.
[180] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber IV, XII, p. 252.
[181] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. IV, Book VIII, p. 197.
[182] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. II, Book IV, p. 305.14

; NB: Racines et Histoire (Maine and Beaugency) both say that Paule married Lancelin I de Beaugency. However, The Henry Project, Genealogics and Med Lands argue that she in fact m. Lancelin's son, Jean de Beaugency.
Conclusion: I have chosen to follow The Henry Project, Genealogics and Med Lands. GA Vaut.15,16,17,18,14,19,20

; Per Med Lands:
     "PAULE du Maine ([1025/35]-). Orderic Vitalis records that "Hugo filius Herberti" and his wife “Bertam ipsius relictam, Tedbaldi Blesensium comitis sororem” had “filium...Herbertum et tres filias”, of whom the third married “Johanni domino castri...Flecchia” (which would be difficult to sustain chronologically and confuses the children of Hugues [IV] Comte du Maine with his sisters) and had three children “Goisbertum, Heliam et Enoch”[169]. Her father is named by Orderic Vitalis, who also records her marriage to "Lancelin de Beaugency"[170]. However, in another passage the same source names "Helias, Johannis et Paulæ filius, Hugonis Cenomannorum consulis consobrinus"[171]. From a chronological point of view, it is more likely that Jean, son of Lancelin de Baugency, was the husband of Paule du Maine.
     "m JEAN de la Flèche, son of LANCELIN de Baugency & his wife --- (-before [1097]), bur Angers, Saint-Aubin)."
Med Lands cites:
[169] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber IV, XII, p. 252.
[170] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. IV, Book VIII, p. 197.
[171] Orderic Vitalis (Chibnall), Vol. II, Book IV, p. 305.19
He was Lord of La Flèche between 1040 and 1087.21

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jean: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029107&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/helia000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaugency.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Jean de La Flèche (Johannes de Fissa): https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/john0000.htm
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lancelin I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029098&tree=LEO
  6. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 12 October 2019), memorial page for Jean de la Fleche de Beaugency (1030–1097), Find A Grave Memorial no. 157850561, citing Collégiale Saint-Pierre-la-Cour, Le Mans, Departement de la Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France ; Maintained by Memerizion (contributor 48072664), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/157850561/jean-de_la_fleche-de_beaugency. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
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  8. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/john0000.htm
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  13. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Jean de Beaugency: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_de_Beaugency. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  14. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MAINE.htm#JeanFlechedied1097. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
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  19. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MAINE.htm#PauleMJeanFlechedied1097
  20. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 4 June 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  21. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Jean de La Flèche (Johannes de Fissa): http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/john0000.htm
  22. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hélie I de la Flèche: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029108&tree=LEO
  23. [S1702] The Henry Project, online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Hélie (Helias) de la Flèche: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/helia000.htm