Sibyl de Ferrers1,2

F, #10921, b. 25 July 1216
FatherWilliam de Ferrers 4th Earl of Derby, Lord of Abergavenny3 b. bt 1162 - 1168, d. 22 Sep 1247
MotherAgnes Kevelioc of Chester, Lady of Chartley3 b. 1174, d. 2 Nov 1247
ReferenceGAV22 EDV22
Last Edited25 Dec 2013
     Sibyl de Ferrers married John de Vipont Lord of Appleby, son of Robert de Vipont and Idonea de Builli; "had a liaison" - apparently not married.4,5,6,3 Sibyl de Ferrers was born on 25 July 1216.2,3
     GAV-22 EDV-22.

; Weis AR7 82-30.4

Family

John de Vipont Lord of Appleby b. 1210, d. 25 Jul 1241
Children

Citations

  1. Racines et Histoire cites no given name, Boyer calls her "Sibyl."
  2. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 84, de FERRERS 12:v. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  3. [S1838] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email #1 23 Nov 2004 "Re: Morville - Stuteville question"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email #1 23 Nov 2004."
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 82-30, p. 81. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  5. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 84, de FERRERS 12:v: "liason."
  6. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 257-258, de VIPONT 2.
  7. [S1217] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:1590432, Sue Cary (unknown location), downloaded updated 25 Aug 2001, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1590432&id=I06088

Humphrey III de Bohun baron de Bohun, Steward, Chancelier et sénéchal, seigneur de Trowbridge, Malmesbury et Melshan1,2,3,4

M, #10922, b. 1120, d. 29 September 1165
FatherHumphrey II (Onfroi) «Le Grand» de Bohun Lord Bohun, seigneur de Tatterford2,4,3 b. 1087, d. 1129
MotherMaud d'Evreux of Salisbury2,3,4
ReferenceGAV24 EDV24
Last Edited16 Dec 2020
     Humphrey III de Bohun baron de Bohun, Steward, Chancelier et sénéchal, seigneur de Trowbridge, Malmesbury et Melshan was born in 1120; Racines et Histoire (Bohun) says b. ca 1120; Genealogics says b. ca 1100.4,3 He married Margaret (?) of Gloucester, daughter of Miles Fitz Walter 1st Earl of Hereford, Lord of Brecknock and Sibyl de Neufmarche, in 1142.5,6,7,3,4
Humphrey III de Bohun baron de Bohun, Steward, Chancelier et sénéchal, seigneur de Trowbridge, Malmesbury et Melshan died on 29 September 1165; Racines et Histoire (Bohun) says d. 06 Apr 1187; Genealogics says d. bef 29 Sep 1165.2,3,4
Humphrey III de Bohun baron de Bohun, Steward, Chancelier et sénéchal, seigneur de Trowbridge, Malmesbury et Melshan was buried after 29 September 1165 at Llanthony Secunda Priory, Hempsted, City of Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1119, England
     DEATH     1165 (aged 45–46)
     Husband of Margaret de Gloucester of Hereford, Princess of Scotland.
     Father of Humphrey de Bohun of Gloucester, Earl of Hereford and Essex. An Anglo-Norman nobleman and general who served Henry II as Constable of England.
     Son of Humphrey I "The Great" Bohun who was born in England and died In Israel on 1 Jun 1220.
     Family Members
     Spouse
          Margaret of Hereford 1122–1187
     Children
          Humphrey de Bohun 1144–1181
     BURIAL     Llanthony Secunda Priory, Hempsted, City of Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
     Children
          Humphrey de Bohun 1144–1181
     BURIAL     Llanthony Secunda Priory, Hempsted, City of Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
     Created by: Joyce Ann Mize
     Added: 8 Jul 2014
     Find a Grave Memorial 132499965
     SPONSORED BY Lucy DeYoung.8
     ; Per Weis: “Margaret of Hereford, d. 1146; m. Humphrey III de Bohun, Baron de Bohun, Lord of Hereford. (CP I:22, VI:545).”.6

; Per Med Lands:
     "MARGARET ([1121/23]-[6 Apr 1187 or after 30 Sep 1194], bur Lanthony Priory, Gloucester). The Historia fundationis cum fundatoris genealogia of the priory of Abergavenny names “Margaretam, Bertam et Luciam” as the three daughters of “Milonem” & his wife, adding that Margaret married “Humphredo de Boun” and inherited “comitatu Herefordiæ”[360]. Her birth date range is estimated from the date of her parents' marriage and the likely birth date of her daughter Matilda. "…Margarita filia ipsi Mil…" subscribed the charter dated to [1123] records that "Walt de Gloec" gave Little Hereford in fee to "Willo de Mara nepoti suo"[361]. This document suggests that Margaret must have been her parents’s oldest child. “Humfridus de Bohun regis dapifer et Marger. uxor mea” founded Farleigh Priory by undated charter[362]. She certified the knights' fees made in the fee of her father during the time of King Henry I[363], which may imply that her husband had died by then. The Red Book of the Exchequer refers to "Margareta de Bohun xvii m" in Gloucestershire in [1167/68][364]. A manuscript which narrates the descents of the founders of Lanthony Abbey records the death 6 Apr 1187 of “Margeriam”, wife of “dominum Hunfredum de Bohun tertium” and her burial “in capitulo Lanthoniæ, juxta Gloucestriam”[365]. A manuscript in Aske’s collections names “Milo…Erle of Herforde, Lord of Bricone and of all the Forest of Done, and also Constable of England…Sibbill wiff of the seid Milo…Ladi Margaret the furst begotton daughter of the said Milo…married to Humfre of Bohun the third…” among those buried at Lanthony Priory[366]. The Pipe Roll at Michaelmas 1194 records “Margareta de Bohun” liable for scutage in respect of her knights in Gloucestershire and “Patricius de Chaurcis” owing for the same scutage (both in respect of the army in Wales), and “Herbertus f Herberti” owing for[ “legalem portionem suam versus Margaretam de Bohun” also in Gloucestershire[367]. It has not been confirmed that “Margareta de Bohun” was Margaret of Hereford or her daughter-in-law Margaret of Huntingdon. If the former, the date of death of Margaret of Hereford was incorrectly recorded in the manuscript quoted above.] King John confirmed the possessions of Lanthony abbey by charter dated 30 Jul 1199, including the donation of "duas partes de Onedesleye" made by "Margar de Bohun", in accordance with the division made "inter ipsam et Luciam sororem suam"[368].
     "m HUMPHREY [III] de Bohun, son of HUMPHREY [II] de Bohun & his wife Matilda of Salisbury ([1100/10]-[1164/65])."
Med Lands cites:
[360] Dugdale Monasticon IV, Priory of Bergavenny or Abergavenny in Monmouthshire, Cartæ I, p. 615.
[361] Ancient Charters (Round), Part I, 11, p. 19.
[362] Dugdale Monasticon V, Farleigh Priory, Wiltshire, I, p. 26.
[363] CP VI 457 footnote e.
[364] Red Book Exchequer, Part I, Knights fees, p. 42.
[365] Dugdale Monasticon VI, Lanthony Abbey, Gloucestershire, II, Fundatorum progenies, p. 134.
[366] Collectanea Topographica et Genealogica, Vol. I (1834), XX, p. 168.
[367] Pipe Roll 6 Ric I (1194/95), Gloucestershire, pp. 234, 237, 239.
[368] Rotuli Chartarum, 1 John, p. 7.3


Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. 6:457.
2. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard. 57.4


; This is the same person as ”Humphrey II de Bohun” at Wikipedia.9

; Per Genealogics:
     “Humphrey was the son and heir of Humphrey 'the Great' de Bohun and Maud de Saresbury, a daughter of Edward of Salisbury, an Anglo-Saxon landholder in Wiltshire. His father died around 1123 and he inherited an honour centred on Trowbridge, although he still owed feudal relief for this as late as 1130.
     “Shortly after the elder Humphrey's death, his widow and son founded the Cluniac priory of Monkton Farleigh in accordance with the elder Humphrey's wishes. By 1130 the younger Humphrey also owed four hundred marks to the Crown for the stewardship, which he had purchased. He appears in royal charters of Henry I towards 1135, and in 1136 he signed the charter of liberties issued by King Stephen at his Oxford court.
     “With his wife Margaret of Gloucester, daughter of Miles FitzWalter de Gloucester, 1st earl of Hereford, and Sibyl de Neufmarché, he had a son Humphrey and daughter Margery who would have progeny.
     “In the civil war that coloured Stephen's reign Humphrey sided with his rival, the Empress Matilda, after she landed in England in 1139. He repelled a royal army besieging his castle at Trowbridge, and in 1144 Matilda confirmed his possessions, granted him some lands, and recognised his 'stewardship in England and Normandy'. He consistently witnessed charters of Matilda as steward in the 1140s and between 1153 and 1157 he witnessed the charters of her son, then Henry II, with the same title.
     “In 1158 he appears to have fallen from favour, for he was deprived of royal demesne lands he had been holding in Wiltshire. He does not appear in any royal act until January 1164, when he was present for the promulgation of the Constitutions of Clarendon. Humphrey died sometime before 29 September 1165, when his son Humphrey had succeeded him in Trowbridge.”.4 GAV-24 EDV-24 GKJ-25.

; Per Burke's: "Humphrey was Steward and Sewer to King Henry I. This feudal lord married Margery, daughter of Milo de Gloucester, Earl of Hereford, Lord High Constable of England, last Lord Hereford of that family. She was co-heir with her sister Mabel. At the instigation of which Milo he espoused the cause of the Empress Maud and her son, afterwards Henry II, against the King Stephen, and so faithfully maintained his allegiance that the Empress, by her especial charter, granted him the office of steward and sewer, both in Normandy and England. In the 20th of Henry II this Humphrey accompanied Richard de Lacy, Justice of England, into Scotland with a powerful army to waste that country, and was one of the witnesses to the accord made by William, King of Scots, and King Henry as to the subjection of that kingdom to the crown of England. He d. 6 April 1187, and was s. by his son.“.2

; Per Racines et Histoire (Bohun): “Humphrey III de Bohun ° 1120 + 06/04/1187 baron de Bohun, Steward, Chancelier & Sénéchal du Roi Henry 1er, seigneur de Trowbridge, Malmesbury et Melshan
     ép.1194 Margaret (Margery) de Gloucester ° ~1126 + 1146 (ou 1197 ?) (fille de Miles de Gloucester, 1er comte d’Hereford (1141), Connétable d’Angleterre + 24/12/1143 et de Sibylle de Neufmarché - fille de Bernard - + après 1139 ; lui apporte la Connétablie héréditaire)”.3

Family

Margaret (?) of Gloucester b. bt 1121 - 1123, d. 6 Apr 1187
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 33, de BOHUN 1. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Dromant, Abeyant, Forgeited, and Extinct Peerages, p. 57. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille de Bohun, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bohun.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Humphrey de Bohun: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139100&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S1217] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:1590432, Sue Cary (unknown location), downloaded updated 25 Aug 2001, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1590432&id=I03701
  6. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), Line 193-5, p. 180.. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret of Gloucester: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139101&tree=LEO
  8. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 16 December 2020), memorial page for Humphrey de Bohun II (1119–1165), Find a Grave Memorial no. 132499965, citing Llanthony Secunda Priory, Hempsted, City of Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England; Maintained by Joyce Ann Mize (contributor 46977449), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/132499965. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  9. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humphrey_II_de_Bohun. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  10. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 180-181, de NEWBURGH 3.
  11. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Beaumont 5 page (The Sires de Beaumont-le-Roger): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/beaumont/beaumont5.html

Suppo II (?) Duke of Spoleto, Count of Camerino1

M, #10923
FatherAdelgis/Adelchis I (?) Duke of Spoleto, Count of Parma2,3 b. c 800, d. a 861
ReferenceGAV31 EDV32
Last Edited26 Aug 2020
     Suppo II (?) Duke of Spoleto, Count of Camerino married Bertha (?)4
     Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 97.
2. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 42.2


; Per Genealogics: "Suppo II was the son of Adelchis I, count of Parma, and member of the Supponid family. He was count of Parma, Asti, and Turin. Along with his cousin Suppo III, he was the chief lay magnate in Italy during Emperor Ludwig's reign. Suppo had four sons, Adelchis, Arding, Boso and Wifred. He also had a daughter Bertila, who would have progeny with her husband Berengar I, margrave of Friuli, king of Italy and emperor."2 GAV-31 EDV-32 GKJ-32.

; Weis [AR7] line 146-16.5

Suppo II (?) Duke of Spoleto, Count of Camerino lived at Perugia, Italy.6

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Supppo II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036192&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Supppo II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036192&tree=LEO
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adelchis I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00626951&tree=LEO
  4. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Bertila: https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/berti000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  5. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 146-16, p. 128. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  6. [S753] Jr. Aileen Lewers Langston and J. Orton Buck, compiler, Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. II (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1974 (1996 reprint)), p. 10. Hereinafter cited as Langston & Buck [1974] - Charlemagne Desc. vol II.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bertila of Spoleto: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00036191&tree=LEO
  8. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CENTRAL%20ITALY.htm#BertilaSpoletodied915. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Rotbald I d'Agel1

M, #10924, d. circa 949
ReferenceGAV29
Last Edited24 Jun 2020
     Rotbald I d'Agel married NN (?) d'Aquitaine, daughter of Guillaume "le Pieux" (?) Duc d'Aquitaine and Engelberge|Ingelburga (?).2,3
Rotbald I d'Agel died circa 949.2
     GAV-29.

; Per Med Lands:
     "ROTBALD [I], son of --- (-[949]). His parentage is not known. It has been speculated that he was the son of Boso Marchese of Tuscany, for onomastic reasons, but that Boso is not known to have had any sons[148]. In any case, Boso was a reasonably common name in the area at that time. Rotbald supported King Louis III "the Blind"'s campaign in Italy in 900 and his efforts to be crowned emperor in Feb 901.
     "m ---. The wife of Rotbald is not known. It has been speculated, for onomastic reasons only, that she was --- d'Aquitaine, daughter of Guillaume "le Pieux" Duke of Aquitaine & his wife Engelberga de Provence, but there appears to be no other basis for this suggestion[149]."
Med Lands cites:
[148] Todd A. Farmerie 'Rotbald and William the Pious' at GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, 28 Jul 2003.
[149] Nathaniel Taylor 'Rotbald and William the Pious' at GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, 29 Jul 2003.1


Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 731.
2. 2. La Noblesse du Midi Carolingien , Settipani, Christian.4
Rotbald I d'Agel was also known as Roubaud I d'Agel.2

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PROVENCE.htm#RotbaldIAgeldied949. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Roubaud I d'Agel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00094929&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/AQUITAINE.htm#dauMRotbaldIAgeldied949
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Roubaud I d'Agel: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00094929&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Boso II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00094931&tree=LEO
  6. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/PROVENCE.htm#BosonIIArlesdied965B

Bertha de Lorraine1,2,3

F, #10925, b. circa 863, d. 8 March 925
FatherLothaire II "The Saxon" (?) King of Lorraine1,2,3,4,5,6 b. 835, d. 8 Aug 869
MotherWaldrada (?)1,3,2,6,7 b. bt 835 - 836, d. a 868
ReferenceGAV29 EDV31
Last Edited14 Dec 2020
     Bertha de Lorraine was born circa 863.8,1,3,2 She married Thibaud (?) Comte d'Arles & Vienne, son of Hugbert (?) Cte et Abbe de St. Maurice de Valois, Count of Arles, circa 879;
Her 1st husband; Med Lands says m. 879/880; Genealogics says m. ca 879.9,10,1,11,3,2,12,13 Bertha de Lorraine married Adalbert II (?) Marchese of Tuscany, Graf of Canossa, son of Adalberto I (?) Count & Duke of Lucca, Marchese of Tuscany and RohautRotilda (?) of Spoleto, between 895 and 898;
Her 2nd husband.1,3,2,14
Bertha de Lorraine died on 8 March 925 at Lucca, Provincia di Lucca, Tuscany, Italy (now).1,3,8,2
Bertha de Lorraine was buried after 8 March 925 at Cattedrale di San Martino, Lucca, Provincia di Lucca, Tuscany, Italy,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     unknown
     DEATH     unknown, Lucca, Provincia di Lucca, Toscana, Italy
     Bertha (died 925) was the second illegitimate daughter of Lothair II, King of Lotharingia, by his concubine Waldrada. She was renowned to be beautiful, spirited, and courageous. Ambition, coupled with her influence, involved her husbands in many wars.
     Between 879 and 880, Bertha married her first husband, Theobald of Arles. A Bosonid, his father was Hucbert, whose brother-in-law was, Lothair II. Bertha and Theobald had four children including two sons and two daughters:
** Hugh (882 – 10 April 947), later king of Italy ;
** Boso (885–936);
** Teuberga of Arles (890–948);
** and an unknown daughter (d. after 924).

     Her second husband was Adalbert II of Tuscany, by whom she had two other sons, Guy and Lambert (who ruled Tuscany later), and a daughter, Ermengard, who married Adalbert I of Ivrea. After the death of Adalbert II in 915, Guy became the count and duke of Lucca and margrave of Tuscany. His mother was his regent from his father's death until 916.
     Guy's minority was spent under her regency. When Hugh desired to marry Marozia, the widow of his half-brother Guy, he tried to eliminate the descendants of his mother by her second husband.
     Bertha is also known for her curious correspondence to Caliph al-Muktafi in 906, in which she described herself rather grandly as "Queen of the Franks". Bertha's letter is of interest in that she appears to have little knowledge of Baghdad politics or culture, and it is for this reason that details of her correspondence were recorded by one of the Muslim chroniclers. Bertha was seeking a marriage alliance between herself and the Emir of Sicily, unaware that al-Mukfati has little influence over the Aghlabid colony in Sicily. Moreover, the letter was written in a language unfamiliar to the Caliph's translators, and the accompanying gifts (among them a multicoloured woollen coat) which no doubt indicated a largesse on Bertha's part, were unlikely to have impressed al-Muktafi beyond their novelty value.
Progeny
     Around 915, Ermengard married Adalbert I of Ivrea and they had a son, Anscar, Duke of Spoleto.
     Hugh was count of Arles (911-923), count of Provence (911-933) and became king of Italy in 924. In the same year, his half-brother Guy married Marozia. On Guy's death in 928 or 929, his brother Lambert came into possession of Guy's familial possession of Lucca and of Tuscany. Also after Guy's death, Hugh desired to marry Guy's widow. However, Hugh was already married, so he had that marriage annulled. Another impediment was the Church's prohibition of the marriage because of the affinity relationship between them; so Hugh disowned and removed Bertha's descendants by Adalbert II. Lambert was removed from his familial possession of Lucca and of Tuscany, which were given in 931 to Hugh's brother Boso. Hugh and Marozia married in 932. However, during the wedding ceremonies Hugh insulted Alberic II, Marozia's son by her first marriage to Alberic I of Spoleto, who then stirred a Roman mob to revolt against Hugh, who was deposed but escaped the city. Alberic II was now ruler of Rome until his death in 954, and he imprisoned his mother for over 5 years, until her death in 937. In 933, Hugh exchanged Provence with Rudolph II of Upper Burgundy for the rule of Italy. Rudolph also married his daughter Adelaide to Hugh's son Lothair, who became nominal King of Italy in 948. In 936 Hugh deposed and arrested his brother Boso, and made his illegitimate son Humbert margrave of Tuscany. In 936, Alberic II married his stepsister Alda, Hugh's daughter, and they had a son, Octavianus. On his deathbed Alberic nominated Octavianus as pope, becoming Pope John XII. The nobles of Rome successfully revolted against Hugh in 945, who was forced into exile.
     Bertha died on 8 March 925 in Lucca.
     Family Members
     Parents
          Lothair II of Lotharingia
     Spouse
          Adalbert II Of Tuscany
     Siblings
          Gisele of Lorraine 869–907
     BURIAL     Cattedrale di San Martino, Lucca, Provincia di Lucca, Toscana, Italy
     Created by: relative
     Added: 24 Feb 2016
     Find A Grave Memorial 158554118.15
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "THEOTBALD [Thibaut] (-[Jun 887/895]). The Annales Vedastini record that "Teutbaldum filium Hucberti" was gravely wounded by "Heinricus" in the battle against "Bosonem tyrannum" in 880[119]. "Richardi comitis, Teutbaldi comitis, Bernardi comitis" subscribed the charter dated 25 Jul 879 under which "Boso…et coniunx mea Hirmingardi proles imperiales" donated property "in pago Laticense…in villa Lantinus" to the abbey of Montiérender[120]. Comte d'Arles.
     "m ([879/80]) as her first husband, BERTA of Lotharingia, illegitimate daughter of LOTHAIRE II King of Lotharingia & his mistress Waldrada --- ([863]-8 Mar 925, bur Lucca). "Hugo comes et marchio" names "patris mei Teutbaldi et matris meæ Berthe…" in a donation by charter dated 924[121]. "Berte" is also named as mother of "Hugo rex" in the latter's donation to Cluny for the souls of his parents dated 8 Mar 934[122]. Her parentage and first marriage are confirmed by the Annales Bertiniani which name "Hugonem Lotharii iunioris filium" and “sororium illius Theutbaldum” in 880[123]. Her origin and second marriage are confirmed by the epitaph of "Comitissæ…Bertha" which specifies that she was "uxor Adalberti Ducis Italiæ…regalis generi…filia Lotharii" and records her death in 925[124]. Liudprand provides the proof that Berta, who married Marchese Adalberto, was the widow of Theotbald when he names "Berta matre regis Hugonis", specifying that she was previously married to Adalberto, when recording her death[125]. She was regent of Tuscany after the death of her second husband in 915. She married secondly ([890/98]) Adalberto II Marchese of Tuscany."
Med Lands cites:
[119] Annales Vedastini 880, MGH SS II, p. 518.
[120] Recueil Actes Provence 16, p. 31.
[121] Diplomata Hugonis Comitis Provinciæ et Regis Italiæ I, RHGF IX, p. 689.
[122] Cluny Tome I, 417, p. 403.
[123] Annales Bertiniani III 880.
[124] RHGF IX, p. 105.
[125] Liudprandi Antapodosis III.18, MGH SS III, p. 306.13


; Per Genealogy.EU (Bosonides): “B1. Theobald/Theodebert, Cte d'Arles (879-895), *ca 860, +895; m.879 Berthe of Lotharingia(*866 +925)”.16

; This is the same person as ”Bertha, daughter of Lothair II” at Wikipedia and as ”Berthe (fille de Lothaire II)” at Wikipédia (FR).17,18

Reference: Genealogics cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 109.3

; Per Genealogics:
     "Bertha was born about 863, the illegitimate daughter of Lothar II, king of Lorraine, by his mistress Waldrada. She was renowned as beautiful, spirited and courageous. Ambition, coupled with her influence, involved her husbands in many wars.
     "About 879 Bertha married Theotbald, count of Arles, the son of Hugbert, count of Arles. Of their four children, Teutberga, Hugo and Boso would have progeny. Between 895 and 898 Bertha married her second husband Adalbert, margrave of Tuscany, count of Vanossa, son of Adalbert I, count and duke of Lucca, margrave of Tuscany, and Rothilde of Spoleto. Their two sons Guido and Lambert both ruled Tuscany later, though only Guido would have progeny. Guido'a minority was spent under her regency. When Bertha's son Hugo desired to marry Marozia, the widow of her son Guido, he tried to eliminate the descendants of his mother by her second husband.
     "From her second marriage Bertha also had a daughter Ermingard, who became the second wife of Adalbert 'the Rich', margrave of Ivrea. However the marriage did not result in progeny."3 GAV-29 EDV-31 GKJ-31. Bertha de Lorraine was also known as Berthe of Lotharingia.10

; Per Med Lands:
     "BERTA ([863]-8 Mar 925, bur Lucca, Santa Maria). "Hugo comes et marchio" names "patris mei Teutbaldi et matris meæ Berthe…" in a donation by charter dated 924[67]. "Berte" is also named as mother of "Hugo rex" in the latter's donation to Cluny for the souls of his parents dated 8 Mar 934[68]. Her parentage and first marriage are confirmed by the Annales Bertiniani which name "Hugonem Lotharii iunioris filium" and “sororium illius Theutbaldum” in 880[69]. Her origin and second marriage are confirmed by the epitaph of "Comitissæ…Bertha" specifies that she was "uxor Adalberti Ducis Italiæ…regalis generi…filia Lotharii" and records her death in 925[70]. Liudprand provides the proof that Berta, who married Marchese Adalberto, was the widow of Theotbald when he names "Berta matre regis Hugonis", specifying that she was previously married to Adalberto, when recording her death[71]. She was regent of Tuscany after the death of her second husband in 915.
     "m firstly ([879/80]) THEOTBALD [Thibaut] Comte d’Arles, son of HUBERT d'Arles, Comte de Transjuranie & his wife --- (-[Jun 887]/[895]).
     "m secondly ([895/98]) ADALBERTO II Marchese of Tuscany, Conte e Duca di Lucca, son of ADALBERT I Marchese of Tuscany & his wife Rothildis of Spoleto (-[10/19] Sep 915, bur Lucca Cathedral)."
Med Lands cites:
[67] Diplomata Hugonis Comitis Provinciæ et Regis Italiæ I, RHGF IX, p. 689.
[68] Bernard, A. and Bruel, A. (eds.) (1876-1903) Recueil des chartes de l'abbaye de Cluny ( Paris), Tome I, 417, p. 403.
[69] Annales Bertiniani III 880.
[70] RHGF IX, p. 105.
[71] Liudprandi Antapodosis III.18, MGH SS III, p. 306.2


; Per Genealogy.EU (Carolin 1): “D2. Bertha, *ca 863, +898/8.3.925; 1m: Cte Theodebert de Provence (+895); 2m: 898 Mgve Adalbert II of Tuscany, Gf of Canossa (*855 +19.9.915)”.19

; Per Weis: “Bertha, of Lorraine, b. 863, d. 8 Mar. 925; m. (1) abt. 879, Theobald, Count of Arles, d. 887/895.”.8

; Per Med Lands:
     "ADALBERTO (-[10/19] Sep 915, bur Lucca Cathedral). His parentage is indicated by the charter dated 27 May 889 under which "Vuido…rex" donated property to the bishop of Fiesole at the request of [her son] "Adalbertus…nepos noster et marchio"[719]. The Gesta regum Francorum confirms that he was the brother of Bonifazio when it names "Adalbertus fraterque eius Bonifacius, Hildibrandus quoque et Gerhardus" as the "primores itaque marchenses qui fuerunt Italici regis" in 894[720]. He succeeded his father in [884/89] as ADALBERTO II Conte e Duca di Lucca Marchese of Tuscany. He supported Guido Duke of Spoleto after his coronation as King of Italy in 889, recognised Emperor Lambert, but subsequently supported Berengario Marchese di Friulia. "Vuido…imperator augustus" confirmed donations "in comitatu Florentino" at the request of "Adalbertus…nepos noster et marchio" by charter dated 24 Nov 891[721]. The Gesta regum Francorum names "Adalbertus fraterque eius Bonifacius, Hildibrandus quoque et Gerhardus" as the "primores itaque marchenses qui fuerunt Italici regis" in 894[722]. The Annales Fuldenses record the same names in 894[723]. He helped Louis King of Provence in his election as emperor[724]. The epitaph of "Adelberti ducis" records his death "Kal Sep"[725].
     "m ([895/98]) as her second husband, BERTA of Lotharingia, widow of THEOTBALD [Thibaut] Comte d’Arles, illegitimate daughter of LOTHAIRE II King of Lotharingia & his mistress Waldrada --- ([863]-8 Mar 925, bur Lucca, Santa Maria). "Hugo comes et marchio" names "patris mei Teutbaldi et matris meæ Berthe…" in a donation by charter dated 924[726]. "Berte" is also named as mother of "Hugo rex" in the latter's donation to Cluny for the souls of his parents dated 8 Mar 934[727]. Her parentage and first marriage are confirmed by the Annales Bertiniani which name "Hugonem Lotharii iunioris filium" and “sororium illius Theutbaldum” in 880[728]. Her origin and second marriage are confirmed by the epitaph of "Comitissæ…Bertha" specifies that she was "uxor Adalberti Ducis Italiæ…regalis generi…filia Lotharii" and records her death in 925[729]. Liudprand provides the proof that Berta, who married Marchese Adalberto, was the widow of Theotbald when he names "Berta matre regis Hugonis", specifying that she was previously married to Adalberto, when recording her death[730]. She was regent of Tuscany after the death of her second husband in 915."
Med Lands cites:
[720] Gesta quorundam regum Francorum, pars quinta 894, MGH SS I, p. 409.
[721] Guido e Lamberti Diplomi, XII, p. 32.
[722] Gesta quorundam regum Francorum, pars quinta 894, MGH SS I, p. 409.
[723] Annales Fuldensium Pars Quinta, auctore Quodam Bawaro 894, MGH SS I, p. 409.
[724] Settipani (1993), p. 274.
[725] Epitaphia Lunense II, MGH Poetæ latini IV, p. 1007.
[726] Diplomata Hugonis Comitis Provinciæ et Regis Italiæ I, RHGF IX, p. 689.
[727] Cluny Tome I, 417, p. 403.
[728] Annales Bertiniani III 880.
[729] RHGF IX, p. 105.
[730] Liudprandi Antapodosis III.18, MGH SS III, p. 306."20

Family 2

Adalbert II (?) Marchese of Tuscany, Graf of Canossa b. c 875, d. 17 Aug 915
Children

Citations

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Waldrada (?)1,2,3

F, #10926, b. between 835 and 836, d. after 868
ReferenceGAV34 EDV32
Last Edited14 Dec 2020
     Waldrada (?) was born between 835 and 836 at Alsace, France (now).4,2 She married Lothaire II "The Saxon" (?) King of Lorraine, son of Lothair I (?) King of Italy, Holy Roman Emperor, King of Bavaria and Irmgard/Ermengarde (?) Countess of Tours, Queen of Italy, on 25 October 862;
His 2nd wife. Genealogy.EU (Carolin 1 page) and Genealogics say m. 15 Oct 862. Med Lands says Mistress from 855; "King Lothaire purported to marry Waldrada in [Aug/Sep] 862 and crowned her as Queen, but this was not recognised by the church."4,5,6,7,1,3
Waldrada (?) died after 868 at Remiremont, Departement des Vosges, Lorraine, France (now); Genealogics, Med Lands and Weis say d. aft 868; Find A Grave says d. 4 Sep 900.4,8,1,6,3
Waldrada (?) was buried after 9 April 900 at Remiremont Abbey, Remiremont, Departement des Vosges, Lorraine, France (now),

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     unknown, Alsace, France
     DEATH     unknown, Remiremont, Departement des Vosges, Lorraine, France
Birth:835
Death:4/9/900
     Long the concubine of Lotharius. Died a nun. She probably belonged to the Alsacian family of the Etichonides. Also called Waldrade.
     Family Members
     Parents
      Liudolf Duke of von Sachsen 805–864
      Oda von Billung 806–913
     Spouse
      Lothair II of Lotharingia      Siblings
      Otto I of Saxony unknown–912
      Christina of Saxony unknown–919
      Luitgard Of Saxony unknown–885
      St. Bruno Von Sachsen unknown–880
      Oda von Sachsen von Stade
      Hathumoda of Gandersheim 840–874
      Gerberga of Saxony 842–897
     Children
      Gisele of Lorraine 869–907
     BURIAL     Remiremont Abbey, Remiremont, Departement des Vosges, Lorraine, France
     Created by: Memerizion
     Added: 7 May 2015
     Find A Grave Memorial 146188147.2
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "LOTHAIRE ([835]-Piacenza 8 Aug 869, bur Convent of San Antonio near Piacenza). Regino names "Hludowicum, Hlotharium et Carolum" as the three sons of Emperor Lothaire & his wife[32]. "Lothario rege" is named "filio imperatoris Lotharii" by Folcuin[33]. The Annales Bertiniani record that Emperor Lothaire gave Frisia to his son Lothaire in 855[34]. He succeeded his father in 855 as LOTHAIRE II King of Lotharingia, with Aachen as his capital. He attempted to annul his marriage to marry his mistress of many years, but was opposed by Hincmar Archbishop of Reims, and later Pope Nicholas I who ordered him to return to his wife 15 Aug 865. He was negotiating with Pope Hadrian II for a new decision when he died of malaria[35]. On his death, his lands were divided between Ludwig II "der Deutsche" King of the East Franks and Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks, instead of passing to his brother Emperor Louis despite the latter's objections. The necrology of Prüm records the death "869 Kal Iul" of "Lotharius rex filius eius [=Lotharius imperator]"[36].
     "m ([855], separated 857, repudiated 860) TEUTBERGA, daughter of BOSO "l'Ancien" Comte d’Arles & his wife --- (-Metz before 25 Nov 875, bur Metz, Abbaye de Sainte-Glossinde). The Annales Lobienses name "Tietberga, sorore Hucberti abbatis" as lawful wife of "Lotharius"[37]. The Annales Bertiniani name "Teutbergam" as "materteram suam [=Bosone filio Buvini comitis]"[38]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Thieberga regina legitima uxore [Lotharii]", specifying that she relied on the advice of "Bosonis comitis" at the time of her repudiation, although her relationship to him is not specified[39]. Herimannus names "Tiohtpirga uxore legitima" of King Lothaire II when recording his repudiation of her[40]. She protected the wife of Boso Count in Italy after she deserted her husband. She was repudiated on the grounds of her alleged incest with her brother Hugobert[41]. Her husband kept her prisoner after separating from her. The Annales Bertiniani record that "uxor Lotharii" fled to "fratrem suum Hucbertum in regno Karli" in 860[42]. She escaped in 860 and sought refuge with Charles II "le Chauve" who gave her the abbey of Avenay in the diocese of Reims. The Annales Bertiniani records that "uxore [Lothario]" gave support to "uxori Bosonis et Balduino qui filiam eius [=Karoli regis] furatus fuerat in uxorem"[43]. Abbess of Sainte Glossinde at Metz 869. "Heccardus comes" names "…Teutbergane uxore Lotharii…" among the beneficiaries under his testamentary disposition dated to [Jan 876][44]. It is not certain that this refers to the separated wife of King Lothar II, but no other "Teutberga/Lothaire" couple has been identified at the time. If this identification is correct, it suggests a family relationship between Teutberga and Ecchard, which has not yet been identified.
     "Mistress (1): (from [855]) WALDRADA, daughter of --- (-9 Apr after 868). One manuscript of the Gesta Treverorum names "Waldradam sororem…Guntheri Coloniensis archiepiscopus" when recording her adulterous relationship with King Lothaire II[45]. The Cæsarii Heisterbacensis Catalogus of archbishops of Köln records that the concubine of "Lotharius" was "Waldradam, sororem Guntheri archiepiscopi Coloniensis" and that her brother encouraged Lothaire to leave his legitimate wife for Waldrada, for which he was excommunicated by the Pope[46]. The Annales Novesienses record that “Guntherus episcopus Coloniensis” had “sororem…Vastradam…aliis Waldradam” whom “dux Lotharingiæ Lotharius…superdixit” after her brother approved his divorce from “legitima uxore Tyberga”[47]. According to Baron Ernouf[48], Gunther archbishop of Köln was uncle of Waldrada and Thetgaud archbishop of Trier was her brother, but the primary source on which this is based has not yet been identified. The Annales Bertiniani names "Hlotharius Waldradam concubinam" when recording that Lothaire purported to marry her in 862 and crowned her with the support of "Liutfrido avunculo suo et Waltario"[49]. Waldrada was also related to the Etichonen Grafen im Nordgau (ALSACE), as shown by the Vita Sancti Deicoli which names "Waldrada…Heberardo comitis consanguinitatis"[50], but the precise relationship is not known. Folcuin records King Lothaire's excommunication after repudiating his wife for Waldrada[51]. King Lothaire purported to marry Waldrada in [Aug/Sep] 862 and crowned her as Queen, but this was not recognised by the church[52]. She became a nun at Remiremont."
Med Lands cites:
[32] Reginonis Chronicon 851, MGH SS I, p. 568.
[33] Folcuini Gesta Abbatum Lobiensium 13, MGH SS IV, p. 61.
[34] Annales Bertiniani II 855.
[35] Settipani (1993), p. 271.
[36] Annales Necrologici Prumienses, MGH SS XIII, p. 219.
[37] Annales Lobienses 870, MGH SS XIII, p. 232.
[38] Annales Bertiniani III 869.
[39] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 861, MGH SS XXIII, p. 737.
[40] Herimanni Augiensis Chronicon 862, MHG SS V, p. 105.
[41] Settipani (1993), p. 271 footnote 549.
[42] Annales Bertiniani II 860.
[43] Annales Bertiniani III 862.
[44] Prou, M. & Vidier, A. (eds.) (1907) Recueil des chartes de l'abbaye de Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire, XXV, p. 59.
[45] Gesta Treverorum, 26, MGH SS II, p. 164.
[46] Cæsarii Heisterbacensis Catalogus Archiepiscopum Coloniensium 94-1230, Fontes rerum Germanicarum II, p. 272.
[47] Annales Novesienses, Veterum Scriptorum IV, col. 537.
[48] Baron Ernouf (1858) Histoire de Waldrade, de Lother II et de leurs descendants (Paris), p. 5.
[49] Annales Bertiniani III 862.
[50] Vita Sancti Deicoli 13, MGH SS XV.2, p. 678.
[51] Folcuini Gesta Abbatum Lobiensium 13, MGH SS IV, p. 61.
[52] Settipani (1993), pp. 271-2.7

; Per Genealogy.EU (Carolin 1): “C3. [1m.] Lothar II, King of Lotharingia (855-869), *827/835, +Plaisance/=Piacenza 8.8.869; 1m: 855 Teutberge de Arles (reputiated 862); 2m: 15.10.862 Waldrada N (*ca 836 +after 868), a concubine”.9

Reference: Genealogics cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977, Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 90.1

; This is the same person as ”Waldrada of Lotharingia” at Wikipedia, as ”Waldrade” at Wikipédia (FR), and as ”Waldrada” at Wikipedia (DE).10,11,12 GAV-34 EDV-32 GKJ-32.

; Per Med Lands:
     "[WALDRADA (-9 Apr after 868). One manuscript of the Gesta Treverorum names "Waldradam sororem…Guntheri Coloniensis archiepiscopus" when recording her adulterous relationship with King Lothaire II[137]. The Cæsarii Heisterbacensis Catalogus of archbishops of Köln records that the concubine of "Lotharius" was "Waldradam, sororem Guntheri archiepiscopi Coloniensis" and that her brother encouraged Lothaire to leave his legitimate wife for Waldrada, for which he was excommunicated by the Pope[138]. The Annales Novesienses record that “Guntherus episcopus Coloniensis” had “sororem…Vastradam…aliis Waldradam” whom “dux Lotharingiæ Lotharius…superdixit” after her brother approved his divorce from “legitima uxore Tyberga”[139]. According to Baron Ernouf[140], Gunther archbishop of Köln was uncle of Waldrada and Thetgaud archbishop of Trier was her brother, but the primary source on which this is based has not yet been identified. The Annales Bertiniani names "Hlotharius Waldradam concubinam" when recording that Lothaire purported to marry her in 862 and crowned her with the support of "Liutfrido avunculo suo et Waltario"[141]. Waldrada was also related to the Etichonen Grafen im Nordgau (ALSACE), as shown by the Vita Sancti Deicoli which names "Waldrada…Heberardo comitis consanguinitatis"[142], but the precise relationship is not known. Folcuin records King Lothaire's excommunication after repudiating his wife for Waldrada[143]. King Lothaire purported to marry Waldrada in [Aug/Sep] 862 and crowned her as Queen, but this was not recognised by the church[144]. She became a nun at Remiremont.
     "Mistress (from [855]) of LOTHAIRE II King of Lotharingia, son of Emperor LOTHAIRE I King of Lotharingia & his wife Ermengarde de Tours (-Piacenza 8 Aug 868)."
Med Lands cites:
[137] Gesta Treverorum, 26, MGH SS II, p. 164.
[138] Cæsarii Heisterbacensis Catalogus Archiepiscopum Coloniensium 94-1230, Fontes rerum Germanicarum II, p. 272.
[139] Annales Novesienses, Veterum Scriptorum IV, col. 537.
[140] Baron Ernouf (1858) Histoire de Waldrade, de Lother II et de leurs descendants (Paris), p. 5.
[141] Annales Bertiniani III 862.
[142] Vita Sancti Deicoli 13, MGH SS XV.2, p. 678.
[143] Folcuini Gesta Abbatum Lobiensium 13, MGH SS IV, p. 61.
[144] Settipani (1993), pp. 271-2.3
She and Lothaire II "The Saxon" (?) King of Lorraine were associated in 855; Mistress/concubine.9,7,3

Family

Lothaire II "The Saxon" (?) King of Lorraine b. 835, d. 8 Aug 869
Children

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Waldrada: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020453&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 9 October 2019), memorial page for Waldrada d'Alsace (unknown–unknown), Find A Grave Memorial no. 146188147, citing Remiremont Abbey, Remiremont, Departement des Vosges, Lorraine, France ; Maintained by Memerizion (contributor 48072664), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/146188147/waldrada-d_alsace. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HOLLAND.htm#WaldradaMLotharII. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lothar II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020451&tree=LEO
  6. [S2372] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 8th ed. w/ additions by Wm R. and Kaleen E. Beall (Baltimore, 1992: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 2004), Lne 145-16, p. 141.. Hereinafter cited as Weis [2004] "Ancestral Roots" 8th ed.
  7. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIA.htm#LothaireIILotharingia
  8. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 9 October 2019), memorial page for Waldrada d'Alsace (unknown–unknown), Find A Grave Memorial no. 146188147, citing Remiremont Abbey, Remiremont, Departement des Vosges, Lorraine, France ; Maintained by Memerizion (contributor 48072664), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/146188147
  9. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Charlemagne 1: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html#Lo2
  10. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waldrada_of_Lotharingia. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  11. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Waldrade: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waldrade. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  12. [S4759] Wikipedia - Die freie Enzyklopädie, online https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hauptseite, Waldrada: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waldrada. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (DE).
  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gisela de Lorraine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00304039&tree=LEO
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bertha de Lorraine: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020454&tree=LEO
  15. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIA.htm#BertaM1ThibautArlesM2AdalbertIITuscany

Eleanor (Alianor) de Neville Countess of Northumberland1

F, #10927, d. 1463
FatherSir Ralph de Neville KG, 1st Earl of Westmorland, 4th Lord Neville of Raby1 b. b 1364, d. 21 Oct 1425
MotherLady Joan Beaufort Countess of Westmorland1 b. 29 Jan 1379, d. 13 Nov 1440
ReferenceEDV16 GKJ16
Last Edited18 Dec 2012
     Eleanor (Alianor) de Neville Countess of Northumberland married Richard le Despenser Lord Despenser, Lord Burghersh, son of Sir Thomas le Despenser Knt., KG, Earl of Gloucester, 2nd Lord le Despenser and Constance (?) of York, after 23 May 1412.2,3 Eleanor (Alianor) de Neville Countess of Northumberland married Sir Henry de Percy KG, 1st Earl of Northumberland, son of Henry "Hotspur" de Percy Knt., KB KG, Lord and Lady Elizabeth Mortimer, after October 1414 at Berwick, Northumberland, England.4,2,5,6
Eleanor (Alianor) de Neville Countess of Northumberland died in 1463; Verity says d. 1473.4,7,8
     EDV-16 GKJ-16.

; Alianore/Eleanor; m 1st after 23 May 1412 Richard le Despenser (dsp 7 Oct 1414 aged 14), only s of 1st and last Earl of Gloucester of the 1397 cr (see FALMOUTH, V) by his w Constance, dau of Edmund Plantagenet, Duke of York, 5th s of EDWARD III; m 2nd a short while after Oct 1414 1st Earl of Northumberland of the 1415/6 cr (see NORTHUMBERLAND, D), and had issue.3 Eleanor (Alianor) de Neville Countess of Northumberland was also known as Eleanor Nevill Countess of Northumberland.8

; Staley cites: CP IX: 713-14, X: 665.7

Family 1

Richard le Despenser Lord Despenser, Lord Burghersh b. c 1400, d. 7 Oct 1414

Family 2

Sir Henry de Percy KG, 1st Earl of Northumberland b. 3 Feb 1392/93, d. 22 May 1455
Children

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Neville 10: pp. 540-1. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  2. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 273. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  3. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, ABERGAVENNY Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 3-33, p. 7. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  5. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 45-8, p. 65. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  6. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brabant 5 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brabant/brabant5.html
  7. [S1807] Louise Staley, "Staley email #5 3 Aug 2005 "EDWARD III to Roger CORBET of Albright Hussey 11 Ways (1)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Staley email #5 3 Aug 2005."
  8. [S2145] Brad Verity, "Verity email 4 Apr 2007: "Descents From Edward III For 1st Baron Wenlock (1784-1852)"," e-mail message from unknown author e-mail (e-mail address) to e-mail address, 4 Apr 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Verity email 4 Apr 2007."
  9. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Northumberland Family Page.
  10. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Ruthin 12: pp. 622-3.

Sir Henry de Percy KG, 1st Earl of Northumberland1,2

M, #10928, b. 3 February 1392/93, d. 22 May 1455
FatherHenry "Hotspur" de Percy Knt., KB KG, Lord2,3 b. 20 May 1364, d. 21 Jul 1403
MotherLady Elizabeth Mortimer2,3 b. 12 Feb 1370/71, d. 20 Apr 1417
ReferenceEDV16 GKJ16
Last Edited18 Dec 2012
     Sir Henry de Percy KG, 1st Earl of Northumberland was born on 3 February 1392/93 at Alnwick, Northumberland, England.4,3 He married Eleanor (Alianor) de Neville Countess of Northumberland, daughter of Sir Ralph de Neville KG, 1st Earl of Westmorland, 4th Lord Neville of Raby and Lady Joan Beaufort Countess of Westmorland, after October 1414 at Berwick, Northumberland, England.4,5,6,2
Sir Henry de Percy KG, 1st Earl of Northumberland died on 22 May 1455 at Battle of St. Albans, St. Albans, St. Albans District, Hertfordshire, England, at age 62; killed fighting on HENRY VI's side against the Yorkists.7,5,1,3
     He was 5th Lord Percy.5 EDV-16 GKJ-16.

; HENRY PERCY, 1st EARL OF NORTHUMBERLAND (E), so cr 16 March 1415/6, with the same remainder as his gf; b 3 Feb 1392/3, had his gf's estates restored to him and was ktd; on mil service in Normandy 1416 and 1417, Warden E March 1417, Memb Cncl Regency on death of HENRY V, commr to negotiate peace with Scots Feb 1423/4 and 1452, jt commr to monitor violations of truce with Scots 1433, Constable England May-Sept 1450; m a short while after Oct 1414, as her 2nd husb, Lady Alinaore/Eleanor Nevill(e), dau of Ralph, 1st Earl of Westmorland of the 1397 cr (see ABERGAVENNY, M), and was k fighting on HENRY VI's side at the Battle of St Albans against the Yorkists 22 May 1455.1 He was Warden of the Marches of Scotland.4

; Faris (1999, p. 273): [quote] HENRY PERCY, Knt., K.G., 5th Lord Percy, was born on 3 Feb. 1392/3, and was heir to his grandfather, the Earl of Northumberland, who took him shortly after his father's death, to Scotland. King Henry V, probably influenced by the young exile's mother-in-law, the Countess of Westmorland, aunt to the King, interested himself in his return. He was created Earl of Northumberland in Parliament on 16 Mar. 1415/6, and was regranted the entailed estates. He was knighted by the King, to whom he was faithful throughout his life. He was married at Berwick shortly after October 1414 to ALIANOR NEVILLE, widow of Richard Despenser, Lord Despenser, and daughter of Ralph de Neville, 1st Earl of Westmorland (of Magna Carta Surety descent and descendant of Charlemagne), by Joan Beaufort, legitimised daughter of John of Lancaster [of Gaunt], Duke of Lancaster (son of King Edward III) [see BEAUFORT 10 for her ancestry]. They had nine sons and three daughters. HENRY PERCY, 2nd Earl of Northumberland, a Lancastrian, was slain fighting at the first battle of St. Albans on 22 May 1455, and was buried at the Abbey there. His widow died in 1463.
Mortimer-Percy (1911), p. 2. Clay (1913), p. 163. C.P. 6:621 footnote e (1926). C.P. 9:715-716 (1936). C.P. 10:464 (1945). Paget (1957) 440:3. Paget (1977), p. 424.
Children of Henry Percy, by Alianor Neville:
i.     HENRY PERCY [see next].
ii.     KATHERINE PERCY, married EDMUND GREY [see RUTHIN 7].2 [end quote].8

; Staley cites: CP IX: 713-14, X: 665.3 He was 1st Earl of Northumberland of the 1415/6 cr on 16 March 1415/16.5,1

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Northumberland Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brabant 5 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brabant/brabant5.html
  3. [S1807] Louise Staley, "Staley email #5 3 Aug 2005 "EDWARD III to Roger CORBET of Albright Hussey 11 Ways (1)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Staley email #5 3 Aug 2005."
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 3-33, p. 7. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  5. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 273. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  6. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 45-8, p. 65. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  7. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 3-33, p. 7: "...slain at St. Albans."
  8. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 19-33, p. 23.
  9. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Ruthin 12: pp. 622-3. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Sir Henry de Percy Knt., 2nd Earl of Northumberland, 6th Lord Percy1,2,3

M, #10929, b. 25 July 1421, d. 29 March 1461
FatherSir Henry de Percy KG, 1st Earl of Northumberland2,4 b. 3 Feb 1392/93, d. 22 May 1455
MotherEleanor (Alianor) de Neville Countess of Northumberland2,4 d. 1463
ReferenceEDV16 GKJ15
Last Edited24 Dec 2008
     Sir Henry de Percy Knt., 2nd Earl of Northumberland, 6th Lord Percy was born on 25 July 1421 at Leconsfield, Yorkshire, England.5,1,6 He married Eleanor de Poynings Baroness Poynings, daughter of Sir Richard de Poynings (Poynynges) Knt. and Alianor (Eleanor) Berkeley, circa 25 June 1435.7,1,8,2,6
Sir Henry de Percy Knt., 2nd Earl of Northumberland, 6th Lord Percy died on 29 March 1461 at Battle of Towton Field, Ferrybridge (Towton, Selby District), North Yorkshire, England, at age 39.5,1,6
     He was 6th Lord Percy.9

; HENRY PERCY, 2nd EARL OF NORTHUMBERLAND; b 25 July 1421; ktd 19 May 1426, Govr Berwick and Warden E Marches 1440 and 1444-61, commr to negotiate with Scots 1451, Justice Forest beyond Trent 1459; m by 25 June 1435 Eleanor (b c 1422; d Feb 1483/4), dau and sole heir of Richard Poynings, who d in the lifetime of his f 4th Lord (Baron) Poynings (see GREY, B), so that Sir Henry Percy, as he then still was, was summoned to Parliament 1446-55 as LORD POYNINGS in right of his w and in the lifetime of his own f the 1st EARL OF NORTHUMBERLAND; the 2nd EARL OF NORTHUMBERLAND, as he had become by now, fought at the Battle of Wakefield (Lancastrian victory) 30 Dec 1460 but fell leading the van of the Lancastrians against the victorious Yorkists at the Battle of Towton, Yorks, 29 March 1461, and was posthumously attainted 4 Nov 1461, his honours being forfeited.1 EDV-16 GKJ-15. He was 2ndd Earl of Northumberland.10,1

; Faris (1999, p. 274): "HENRY PERCY, Knt., 6th Lord Percy, 3rd Earl of Northumberland, son and heir,
was born on 25 July 1421. He was married on or before 25 June 1435 to ELEANOR POYNINGS, Baroness Poynings de jure suo jure, daughter and heiress of Richard Poynings (or Ponynges), by his second wife Alianor, daughter of John Berkeley, Knt., of Beverstone, co. Gloucester (of Magna Carta Surety descent and descendant of Charlemagne). She was born about 1422, and was granddaughter and heiress of Robert, Lord Poynings (died 2 Oct. 1446). In consequence of his marriage he was summoned v.p. to Parliament on 14 Dec. 1446 as Lord Poynings. HENRY PERCY, Earl of Northumberland, took part in the battle of Wakefield on 30 Dec. 1460, and was slain fighting for the king at the Battle of Towton on 29 Mar. 1461, burial, it is said, at St. Denis', co. York. His widow died in February 1483/4.
Mortimer-Percy (1911), p. 2. Clay (1913), p. 163. C.P. 6:621 (1926). C.P. 9:716-717 (1936). C.P. 10:464 (1945). Paget (1977), pp. 257,411. Paget (1977), pp. 257,411.
Children of Henry Percy, by Eleanor Poynings:
i.     HENRY PERCY [see next].
ii.     ANNE PERCY, married THOMAS HUNGERFORD [see HUNGERFORD 9].1
iii.     MARGARET PERCY, married WILLIAM GASCOIGNE [see NEVILLE 6].2."11

; Staley cites: CP IX: 715-7, X: 665.6,3

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Northumberland Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brabant 5 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brabant/brabant5.html
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Gascoigne 14: p. 349. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  4. [S1807] Louise Staley, "Staley email #5 3 Aug 2005 "EDWARD III to Roger CORBET of Albright Hussey 11 Ways (1)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Staley email #5 3 Aug 2005."
  5. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 3-34, p. 7. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  6. [S1806] Louise Staley, "Staley email #4 3 Aug 2005 "EDWARD III to Roger CORBET of Albright Hussey 11 Ways (1)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Staley email #4 3 Aug 2005."
  7. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 274. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  8. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Grey, Baron Family Page.
  9. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, pp. 273-274.
  10. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 163, pp. 273-274.
  11. [S673] David Faris, Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 178.
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lady Margaret Percy, http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046491&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  13. [S1468] Chris Phillips, "Phillips email "Re: Another CP Addition: Anne West, wife of John Clinton, 7th Lord Clinton"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 16 October 2003. Hereinafter cited as "Phillips email 16 October 2003."
  14. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Humphrey 13: p. 403.
  15. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Cromer 13: pp. 245-246.
  16. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Hastings 13: pp. 386-387.
  17. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Hungerford 12: p. 409.

John La Zouche1,2

M, #10930
FatherSir William La Zouche Knt., 1st Lord Zouche of Haryngworth1 b. c 21 Dec 1276, d. 11 Mar 1351/52
MotherMaud Lovel1 b. c 1276, d. bt 1313 - 1324
Last Edited7 Sep 2004
     John La Zouche was living in 1326.2

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Zouche Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rohan 1 page - Family de Rohan: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/rohan/rohan1.html

Sir Ralph de Neville Knt., of Oversley, Warwickshire1,2,3,4,5

M, #10931, d. 26 February 1457/58
FatherSir Ralph de Neville KG, 1st Earl of Westmorland, 4th Lord Neville of Raby6,2,3,4,5 b. b 1364, d. 21 Oct 1425
MotherLady Margaret Stafford3,2,4,5,7 b. May 1364, d. 9 Jun 1396
ReferenceEDV18 GKJ17
Last Edited1 Oct 2019
     Sir Ralph de Neville Knt., of Oversley, Warwickshire married Lady Mary de Ferrers Lady of Oversley, daughter of Sir Robert de Ferrers Knt., 2nd Lord Ferrers of Wemme and Lady Joan Beaufort Countess of Westmorland, before 1411.8,9,2,3,5,10
Sir Ralph de Neville Knt., of Oversley, Warwickshire died on 26 February 1457/58.11,2,3
     Sir Ralph de Neville Knt., of Oversley, Warwickshire lived at Oversley, Warwickshire, England.11 EDV-18 GKJ-17.

; van de Pas cites: 1. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard, Reference: page 394
2. Living descendants of Blood Royal in America , Angerville, Count d', Reference: vol III page 493
3. Cahiers de Saint Louis , Dupont, Jacques and Saillot, Jacques, Reference: page 921.3

; Faris (1999, p. 254): "RALPH NEVILLE, Knt., of Oversley, co. Warwick jure uxoris, second son, was married to MARY DE FERRERS, Lady of Oversley, daughter and co-heiress of Robert de Ferrers, Knt., of Wem, co. Salop (descendant of Charlemagne), by Joan Beaufort [his step-mother], legitimised daughter of John of Lancaster [of Gaunt], Duke of Lancaster (son of King Edward III) [see BEAUFORT 10 for her ancestry]. She was born before 1394 (aged seventeen at the death of her paternal grandmother), and died on 25 Jan. 1457/8. SIR RALPH NEVILLE died on 26 Feb. 1457/8.
TAG 17:106 (Oct. 1940). Paget (1957) 404:13. Paget (1957) 6:15."8 Sir Ralph de Neville Knt., of Oversley, Warwickshire was also known as Sir Ralph Neville Knt., of Oversley, Warwickshire.2,5

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, ABERGAVENNY Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Gascoigne 11: p. 348. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Ralph Nevill: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013712&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Neville 10: pp. 540-1.
  5. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Neville 10.1: p. 541.
  6. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers, of Wemme, co. Salop, p. 198. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lady Margaret Stafford: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00038530&tree=LEO
  8. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), Line 10-34, p. 14. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mary Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013333&tree=LEO
  10. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 30 September 2019), memorial page for Lady Mary de Ferrers de Neville (1394–25 Jan 1458), Find A Grave Memorial no. 143701906, citing Blackfriars Abbey Church (Defunct), York, York Unitary Authority, North Yorkshire, England ; Maintained by Memerizion (contributor 48072664), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/143701906/mary-de_neville. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  11. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 254. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan Nevill: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00406515&tree=LEO
  13. [S2152] Brad Verity, "Verity email 25 Apr 2007: "Descents From Edward III For Judge Richard Aske, Regicide Counsel"," e-mail message from unknown author e-mail (e-mail address) to e-mail address, 25 Apr 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Verity email 25 Apr 2007."
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Nevill, of Oversley: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108616&tree=LEO

Lady Mary de Ferrers Lady of Oversley1,2,3,4

F, #10932, b. before 1394, d. 25 January 1457/58
FatherSir Robert de Ferrers Knt., 2nd Lord Ferrers of Wemme1,5,2,6,3 b. 1373, d. b 29 Nov 1396
MotherLady Joan Beaufort Countess of Westmorland1,2,6,3 b. 29 Jan 1379, d. 13 Nov 1440
ReferenceEDV18 GKJ17
Last Edited30 Sep 2019
     Lady Mary de Ferrers Lady of Oversley was born before 1394; Richardson says "aged 17 in 1411."7,2,3 She married Sir Ralph de Neville Knt., of Oversley, Warwickshire, son of Sir Ralph de Neville KG, 1st Earl of Westmorland, 4th Lord Neville of Raby and Lady Margaret Stafford, before 1411.8,2,3,9,10,4
Lady Mary de Ferrers Lady of Oversley was buried after 25 January 1458 at Blackfriars Abbey Church, York, York Unitary Authority, North Yorkshire, England,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     1394, Stratford-on-Avon District, Warwickshire, England
     DEATH     25 Jan 1458 (aged 63–64), Stratford-on-Avon District, Warwickshire, England
     Lady of Oversley
     Family Members
     Parents
      Robert de Ferrers 1373–1396
      Joan Beaufort Neville 1375–1440
     Spouse
      Ralph de Neville 1392–1458
     Siblings
      Elizabeth Ferrers Greystoke 1393–1434
     Half Siblings
      Eleanor de Neville de Percy 1398–1472
      Katherine Neville Woodville 1399–1478
      Richard Neville 1400–1460
      Richard Neville 1400–1460
      Robert de Neville 1404–1457
      William de Neville 1405–1463
      George Neville, Lord Latimer 1407–1469
      Anne de Neville Stafford 1411–1480
      Edward Neville 1412–1476
      Cecily de Neville Plantagenet 1415–1495
     Children
      Havisia de Neville Heslerton 1410 – unknown
      John de Neville 1416–1481
     BURIAL     Blackfriars Abbey Church (Defunct), York, York Unitary Authority, North Yorkshire, England
     Created by: Memerizion
     Added: 14 Mar 2015
     Find A Grave Memorial 143701906.4
Lady Mary de Ferrers Lady of Oversley died on 25 January 1457/58 at Stratford-on-Avon District, Warwickshire, England.7,2,3,4
     EDV-18 GKJ-17.

; Genealogics cites:
     1. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant,forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Sir Bernard Burke, Reference: page 198
     2. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to Amercia bef.1700 7th Edition, Frederick Lewis Weis, Reference: 6
     3. Cahiers de Saint Louis Magazine. , Jacques Dupont, Jacques Saillot, Reference: page 921.
     4. Living descendants of Blood Royal in America. , Count d'Angerville, Reference: III 492
     5. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard. 198.2 Lady Mary de Ferrers Lady of Oversley was also known as Mary Ferrers Lady of Oversley.11

; Weis AR7 10-34.8

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers, of Wemme, co. Salop, p. 198. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mary Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013333&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Gascoigne 11: p. 348. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  4. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 30 September 2019), memorial page for Lady Mary de Ferrers de Neville (1394–25 Jan 1458), Find A Grave Memorial no. 143701906, citing Blackfriars Abbey Church (Defunct), York, York Unitary Authority, North Yorkshire, England ; Maintained by Memerizion (contributor 48072664), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/143701906/mary-de_neville. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013331&tree=LEO
  6. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Boteler 12: pp. 134-135.
  7. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 2-33, p. 6. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  8. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, Line 10-34, p. 14.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Ralph Nevill: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013712&tree=LEO
  10. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Neville 10.1: p. 541.
  11. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Boteler 12.ii: -p. 135.
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan Nevill: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00406515&tree=LEO
  13. [S2152] Brad Verity, "Verity email 25 Apr 2007: "Descents From Edward III For Judge Richard Aske, Regicide Counsel"," e-mail message from unknown author e-mail (e-mail address) to e-mail address, 25 Apr 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Verity email 25 Apr 2007."
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Nevill, of Oversley: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108616&tree=LEO

Sir Robert de Ferrers Knt., 2nd Lord Ferrers of Wemme1,2,3,4

M, #10933, b. 1373, d. before 29 November 1396
FatherSir Robert de Ferrers Knt., 1st Lord Ferrers of Wem; 8th Earl of Hereford1,2,5 b. c 1350, d. c 31 Dec 1380
MotherElizabeth le Botiller Lady Boteler of Wem and Oversley1,6,2,5 b. b 1345, d. 19 Jun 1411
ReferenceEDV17 GKJ18
Last Edited30 Sep 2019
     Sir Robert de Ferrers Knt., 2nd Lord Ferrers of Wemme was born in 1373 at Wilsham, Mid Suffolk District, co. Suffolk, England; Leo van de Pas says b. 1370; Richardson says b ca 1372 (aged 8 in 1380); Racines et Histoires says b. ca 1370.7,8,2,4,9 He married Lady Joan Beaufort Countess of Westmorland, daughter of John of Gaunt (?) Duke of Aquitaine and Lancaster, KG and Katherine de Roet Duchess of Lancaster, before 30 September 1390;
Her 1st husband; Racines et Histoire says m. ca 1392.10,11,1,8,2,12,4,13,14
Sir Robert de Ferrers Knt., 2nd Lord Ferrers of Wemme died before 29 November 1396 at Shrewsbury, Shropshire Unitary Authority, Shropshire, England; Racines et Histoires says d. bef 1410.10,8,2,4,9
     Sir Robert de Ferrers Knt., 2nd Lord Ferrers of Wemme lived at Willisham and Wem, England.15 He was 2nd Lord (Baron) Ferrers of Wem.1,2 EDV-17 GKJ-18. Sir Robert de Ferrers Knt., 2nd Lord Ferrers of Wemme was also known as Robert Ferrers 2nd Lord Ferrers of Wen.16

; Leo van de pas cites:
     1. Cahiers de Saint Louis Magazine. , Jacques Dupont, Jacques Saillot, Reference: page 911
     2. Burke's Guide to the Royal Family London, 1973 , Reference: page 200
     3. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant,forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Sir Bernard Burke, Reference: page 198.
     4. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. 5:334-5
     5. Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families 2004, Salt Lake City, Richardson, Douglas. 134-5.2

Family

Lady Joan Beaufort Countess of Westmorland b. 29 Jan 1379, d. 13 Nov 1440
Children

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers, of Wemme, co. Salop, p. 198. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013331&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2166] Brad Verity, "Verity email 20 Aug 2007: "Bigod/Greystoke Marriage in 1433"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 20 Aug 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Verity email 20 Aug 2007."
  4. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Boteler 12: pp. 134-135. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  5. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Boteler 11: p. 134.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Botiler: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00191845&tree=LEO
  7. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 62-34, p. 66. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  8. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Anjou 6 page (The House of Anjou): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/anjou/anjou6.html
  9. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 30 September 2019), memorial page for Sir Robert de Ferrers (1373–29 Nov 1396), Find A Grave Memorial no. 143702218, ; Maintained by Memerizion (contributor 48072664) Unknown, at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/143702218/robert-de_ferrers. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  10. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 2-32, p. 6.
  11. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's Dromant, ABeyant, Forgeited, and Extinct Peerages, p. 34.
  12. [S2201] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 16 Nov 2007: "Children of John of Gaunt, Duke of Aquitaine and Lancaster"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 16 Nov 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 16 Nov 2007."
  13. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Neville 10: pp. 540-1.
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan Beaufort: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00001701&tree=LEO
  15. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), pp. 14-15. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  16. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Boteler 12: -p. 134-135.
  17. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Eure 11: p. 296.
  18. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Greystoke 11: p. 363.
  19. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013332&tree=LEO
  20. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mary Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013333&tree=LEO
  21. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Gascoigne 11: p. 348.

Sir Robert de Ferrers Knt., 1st Lord Ferrers of Wem; 8th Earl of Hereford1,2

M, #10934, b. circa 1350, d. circa 31 December 1380
FatherSir Robert de Ferrers 3rd Lord Ferrers of Chartley1,2,3,4 b. 25 Mar 1309, d. 28 Aug 1350
MotherJoan de La Mote Lady of Willisham2,4 d. 29 Jun 1375
ReferenceEDV18 GKJ19
Last Edited25 Dec 2013
     Sir Robert de Ferrers Knt., 1st Lord Ferrers of Wem; 8th Earl of Hereford was born circa 1350; Richardson says "aged 25 in 1375."5,2 He married Elizabeth le Botiller Lady Boteler of Wem and Oversley, daughter of William le Botiller 3rd Lord Botiller of Wem and Oversley and Elizabeth Handesacre, circa 27 September 1369; her 1st husband.5,1,6,2
Sir Robert de Ferrers Knt., 1st Lord Ferrers of Wem; 8th Earl of Hereford died circa 31 December 1380.5,1,2
     EDV-18 GKJ-19. He was 1st Lord (Baron) Ferrers of Wem on 28 December 1375.1

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers, of Wemme, co. Salop, p. 198. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Boteler 11: p. 134. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Robert de Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177552&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Ferrers 9: p. 308.
  5. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 62-33, p. 66. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Botiler: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00191845&tree=LEO
  7. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Ferrers.pdf: p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013331&tree=LEO

Elizabeth le Botiller Lady Boteler of Wem and Oversley1,2

F, #10935, b. before 1345, d. 19 June 1411
FatherWilliam le Botiller 3rd Lord Botiller of Wem and Oversley b. b 1331, d. 14 Aug 1369; Racines et Histoires says Elizabeth was the dau. of Humphrey, 2nd Lord Botiller and Joan de Sudeley3,4,1,5
MotherElizabeth Handesacre1,5
ReferenceEDV18 GKJ19
Last Edited25 Dec 2013
     Elizabeth le Botiller Lady Boteler of Wem and Oversley was born before 1345.6,2 She married Sir Robert de Ferrers Knt., 1st Lord Ferrers of Wem; 8th Earl of Hereford, son of Sir Robert de Ferrers 3rd Lord Ferrers of Chartley and Joan de La Mote Lady of Willisham, circa 27 September 1369; her 1st husband.7,8,1,2 Elizabeth le Botiller Lady Boteler of Wem and Oversley married Sir John Say in 1381; her 2nd husband.9,2 Elizabeth le Botiller Lady Boteler of Wem and Oversley married Sir Thomas Molinton Knt., of London before 25 October 1398; her 3rd husband; date of papal indult.10,2
Elizabeth le Botiller Lady Boteler of Wem and Oversley died on 19 June 1411 at Chapel of St. Mary; Church of the Crutched Friars, London, City of London, Greater London, England; Leo van de Pas says d. bef 16 Jun 1411.6,1,2
     Elizabeth le Botiller Lady Boteler of Wem and Oversley lived at Wem, Shropshire, England.11 EDV-18 GKJ-19. She was de Jure Baroness Botiler.1

Family 2

Sir John Say

Family 3

Sir Thomas Molinton Knt., of London d. 7 May 1408

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Botiler: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00191845&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Boteler 11: p. 134. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, p. 63. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Le Botiler: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00191848&tree=LEO
  5. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Boteler 10: p. 134.
  6. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 77-34, p. 76. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  7. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 62-33, p. 66.
  8. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Ferrers - Barons Ferrers, of Wemme, co. Salop, p. 198.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir John Say: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00191846&tree=LEO
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Thomas Molinton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00191847&tree=LEO
  11. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 162. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  12. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Ferrers.pdf: p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013331&tree=LEO

Joan Greystoke1,2,3

F, #10936, b. between 1409 and 1410, d. after 1472
FatherSir John de Greystoke Knt., Baron Greystoke, 4th Lord Greystoke1,4,2,3 b. b 1389, d. 8 Aug 1436
MotherElizabeth Ferrers Lady Greystoke, Lady of Wem5,1,6,2,3 b. c 1393, d. 1434
ReferenceEDV17 GKJ16
Last Edited1 Oct 2019
     Joan Greystoke was born between 1409 and 1410.5,7 She married Sir John Darcy of Temple Hurst, Yorks, 7th Lord Darcy of Knayth, son of Sir John Darcy Knt., 5th Lord Darcy of Knayth, 4th Lord Meinell and Margaret Grey, before 1424.8,9,5,10,11,1,2,7 Joan Greystoke married William Stoke Knt. after 27 April 1458; her 2nd husband; date of dispensation.9,2,3,7
Joan Greystoke died after 1472.9,5,3,7
     EDV-17 GKJ-16.

Reference: Genealogics cites:
     1. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America bef.1700, 7th Edition, 1992, Weis, Frederick Lewis, Reference: 13
     2. Cahiers de Saint Louis , Dupont, Jacques and Saillot, Jacques, Reference: 916
     3. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard, Reference: 157
     4. Living descendants of Blood Royal in America , Angerville, Count d', Reference: III 120
     5. Americans of Royal Descent, 7th edition, Baltimore, 1969 , Browning, Charles H., Reference: 445
     6. Pedigrees Recorded at the Visitations of... Cumberland and Westmorland , Foster, Joseph (ed). 56.12,3

Family 2

William Stoke Knt. d. a 1472

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Greystoke 11: p. 363. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Launce 12: p. 441.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan Greystoke: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108552&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Greystoke: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013711&tree=LEO
  5. [S2170] Brad Verity, "Verity email 28 Aug 2007: "Descents From Edward III For John Beverley of Jervaulx Abbey     (1656-aft.1694)"," e-mail message from unknown author e-mail (e-mail address) to e-mail address, 28 Aug 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Verity email 28 Aug 2007."
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Ferrers: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013332&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan Greystoke: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108552&tree=LEO
  8. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 13-34, p. 17. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  9. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 209. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  10. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Darcy 11.ii: p. 256.
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Darcy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108551&tree=LEO
  12. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 62-35, p. 66.
  13. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Darcy de Knayth Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Richard Darcy, of Torkesey: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00113952&tree=LEO
  15. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan Darcy (de Knayth): https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139921&tree=LEO

Sir John Darcy of Temple Hurst, Yorks, 7th Lord Darcy of Knayth1,2,3,4,5,6

M, #10937, b. circa 1404, d. 1458
FatherSir John Darcy Knt., 5th Lord Darcy of Knayth, 4th Lord Meinell7,1,8,9,10,4,5 b. bt 1376 - 1377, d. 9 Dec 1411
MotherMargaret Grey7,1,8,11,4,5 b. c 1380, d. 1 Jun 1454
ReferenceEDV17 GKJ16
Last Edited1 Oct 2019
     Sir John Darcy of Temple Hurst, Yorks, 7th Lord Darcy of Knayth was born circa 1404; Richardson says "aged 15 in 1419"; van de Pas says b. abt 1400.12,4,5 He married Joan Greystoke, daughter of Sir John de Greystoke Knt., Baron Greystoke, 4th Lord Greystoke and Elizabeth Ferrers Lady Greystoke, Lady of Wem, before 1424.12,7,2,3,4,13,5,14
Sir John Darcy of Temple Hurst, Yorks, 7th Lord Darcy of Knayth died in 1458.12,7,1,4
     EDV-17 GKJ-16.

; John; m Joane de Greystock, dau of 6th Lord (Baron) Greystock of the 1295 cr, and d 1458, having had issue.1

; van de Pas cites: 1. Living descendants of Blood Royal in America , Angerville, Count d', Reference: III 120
2. Cahiers de Saint Louis , Dupont, Jacques and Saillot, Jacques, Reference: 916
3. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America bef. 1700, Baltimore, 1995, Weis, Frederick Lewis; Sheppard, Walter, Reference: 17
4. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard, Reference: 57.4

; Faris (1999, p. 209): "JOHN DARCY, second son, was born about 1400, and became heir male of the family on the death of his brother Philip in 1418. He was married to JOAN GREYSTOKE, daughter of John de Greystoke, Lord Greystoke (of Magna Carta Surety descent and descendant of Charlemagne), by Elizabeth, Lady of Wem (descendant of King Edward III), elder daughter and co-heiress of Robert de Ferrers, Knt. [see GREYSTOKE 9 for her ancestry]. They had five sons and four daughters. JOHN DARCY, Lord Darcy, died in 1458. His widow was married, with marriage dispensation dated 27 Apr. 1458, to William Stoke, Knt. They were living 1471/2.
H.S.P.     16:91-92 (1881). Clay (1913), p. 42. C.P. 4:71,73 (1916). TAG 21:173 (Jan. 1945). Ancient Deeds B.5249,525 1."7

Family

Joan Greystoke b. bt 1409 - 1410, d. a 1472
Children

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Darcy de Knayth Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S2170] Brad Verity, "Verity email 28 Aug 2007: "Descents From Edward III For John Beverley of Jervaulx Abbey     (1656-aft.1694)"," e-mail message from unknown author e-mail (e-mail address) to e-mail address, 28 Aug 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Verity email 28 Aug 2007."
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Darcy 11.ii: p. 256. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Darcy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108551&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Launce 12: p. 441.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Darcy': http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108551&tree=LEO
  7. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 209. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  8. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 13-33, p. 17. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Darcy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108549&tree=LEO
  10. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Darcy 11: p. 256.
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret Grey: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108550&tree=LEO
  12. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 13-34, p. 17.
  13. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Greystoke 11: p. 363.
  14. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan Greystoke: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108552&tree=LEO
  15. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Richard Darcy, of Torkesey: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00113952&tree=LEO
  16. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan Darcy (de Knayth): https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139921&tree=LEO

William le Botiller 3rd Lord Botiller of Wem and Oversley1,2,3

M, #10938, b. before 1331, d. 14 August 1369
FatherWilliam le Botiller 2nd Lord Botiller, of Wem and Oversley2,4,5 b. 8 Sep 1298, d. 22 Dec 1361
MotherLady Margaret Fitz Alan2,6,5 b. c 1295
ReferenceEDV19 GKJ20
Last Edited25 Dec 2013
     William le Botiller 3rd Lord Botiller of Wem and Oversley was born before 1331.7,3,5 He married Elizabeth Handesacre, daughter of Sir William de Handesacre Knt., of Handesacre (in Armitage) in Staffordshire, before July 1343.7,3
William le Botiller 3rd Lord Botiller of Wem and Oversley died on 14 August 1369.7,2,3,5
     William le Botiller 3rd Lord Botiller of Wem and Oversley lived at Wem, Shropshire, England.8 EDV-19 GKJ-20.

; Leo van de pas cites: The Complete Peerage 1936 , H.A.Doubleday & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 310.3 William le Botiller 3rd Lord Botiller of Wem and Oversley was also known as Sir William le Boteler Knt., 3rd Lord Boteler of Wem.5 He was M.P. between 1368 and 1369.7

Family

Elizabeth Handesacre
Child

Citations

  1. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 135-7, p. 174. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  2. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, p. 63. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Le Botiler: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00191848&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Boteler 9: p. 134. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  5. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Boteler 10: p. 134.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lady Margaret Fitzalan: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00191851&tree=LEO
  7. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 77-33, p. 76. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  8. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), p. 162. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Botiler: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00191845&tree=LEO

Elizabeth Handesacre1

F, #10939
FatherSir William de Handesacre Knt., of Handesacre (in Armitage) in Staffordshire; Richardson says "presumably daughter of..."1
ReferenceEDV19 GKJ20
Last Edited20 Jul 2008
     Elizabeth Handesacre married William le Botiller 3rd Lord Botiller of Wem and Oversley, son of William le Botiller 2nd Lord Botiller, of Wem and Oversley and Lady Margaret Fitz Alan, before July 1343.2,3
     EDV-19 GKJ-20.

Elizabeth Handesacre was living in 1361.1

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Boteler 10: p. 134. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  2. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 77-33, p. 76. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Le Botiler: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00191848&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 77-33, p. 76 "...Elizabeth was not dau. of Robert, Lord of Holand, since his daughter, Elizabeth, married by 1340 Sir Henry Fitz Roger."
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth Botiler: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00191845&tree=LEO

William le Botiller 2nd Lord Botiller, of Wem and Oversley1,2,3

M, #10940, b. 8 September 1298, d. 22 December 1361
FatherWilliam le Botiller 1st Lord Botiller of Wem and Oversley, co. Warwick2,3,4,5 b. 11 Jun 1274, d. b 14 Sep 1334
MotherBeatrice (?)2
ReferenceEDV20 GKJ21
Last Edited12 Oct 2008
     William le Botiller 2nd Lord Botiller, of Wem and Oversley married Lady Margaret Fitz Alan, daughter of Sir Richard Fitz Alan Knt., 8th/1st Earl of Arundel and Alasia/Alice (?) di Saluzzo; his 1st wife.2,3,6,7,5,8 William le Botiller 2nd Lord Botiller, of Wem and Oversley was born on 8 September 1298; Utz #2 29 May 2005 says b. 8 Sept 1298; Weis says b. 08 Sep 1296; Richardson says b. 8 Sept. 1298.2,9,5 He married Joan de Sudeley, daughter of John de Sudeley 2nd Lord Sudeley and Eleanor de Scales, circa 1354; his 2nd wife; Utz #2 29 May 2005 says m. bef 1355.10,11,12,5
William le Botiller 2nd Lord Botiller, of Wem and Oversley died on 22 December 1361 at age 63.2,3,9,5
     He was seemingly de jure 2nd Lord (Baron) Le Botiller (though never called to Parl.)13,1 EDV-20 GKJ-21. William le Botiller 2nd Lord Botiller, of Wem and Oversley was also known as Sir William le Boteler Knt., de jure 2nd Lord Boteler of Wem.5,8

Family 2

Joan de Sudeley b. c 1338, d. b 11 Aug 1367
Child

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Norfolk Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 77-32, p. 76. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  3. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, p. 63. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Le Botiler: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00337529&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Boteler 9: p. 134. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  6. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Fitz-Alan - Earls of Arundel, Baron Maltravers, p. 200.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lady Margaret Fitzalan: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00191851&tree=LEO
  8. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Fitz Alan 8.iv: p. 316.
  9. [S1720] David Utz, "Utz email #2 29 May 2005 "Aline de Gai's descents to Robert Abell"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 May 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Utz email #2 29 May 2005."
  10. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 222-35, p. 185.
  11. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Sudeley Family Page.
  12. [S1720] David Utz, "Utz email #2 29 May 2005," e-mail to e-mail address, 29 May 2005, 7 Joan de Sudeley b: Abt. 1338 d: Bef. 11 August 1367
    .... +William le Botiller b: 08 September 1298 m: Bef. 1355 d: 22 December 1361.
  13. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 135-6, p. 174. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  14. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Boteler 10: p. 134.
  15. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Thomas Boteler: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00349574&tree=LEO
  16. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Belknap 10: p. 89.

William le Botiller 1st Lord Botiller of Wem and Oversley, co. Warwick1,2

M, #10941, b. 11 June 1274, d. before 14 September 1334
FatherWilliam le Botiler 1st Baron Le Botiler2,3,4 b. 1245, d. b 11 Dec 1283
MotherAngharad ferch Gruffud ap Madog5,2,4
ReferenceGAV20 EDV21
Last Edited2 Jan 2009
     William le Botiller 1st Lord Botiller of Wem and Oversley, co. Warwick married Beatrice (?); his 1st wife; Burke's Extinct Peerages shows William's 1st wife (and his only son's mother) to have been :Ankeret, dau. of Griffin". I have chosen to follow Weis's lineage [GAV - 15 April 2003].6,1,2 William le Botiller 1st Lord Botiller of Wem and Oversley, co. Warwick was born on 11 June 1274.2 He married Ela de Herdeburgh, daughter of Sir Roger de Herdeburgh Knt., of Prilleston, Norfolk and Ida de Oddingseles Prioress of Wraxall, before February 1316; his 2nd wife; her 2nd husband.1,2,7,4,8
William le Botiller 1st Lord Botiller of Wem and Oversley, co. Warwick died before 14 September 1334.1,2
     ; "William Boteler, who, in the 24th Edward I., was in ward to Walter de Langton, lord treasurer of England, and Walter de Beauchamp of Alcester, steward of the king's household. This feudal lord obtaining renown in the Scottish wars of the period, was summoned to parliament as a Baron from 10 March 1308 to 10 October, 1325. His lordship m. 1st, Amheret, dau. of Griffin, and had an only son, William, his successor. He m. 2ndly, Ela, dau. and co-heiress of Roger de Herdeburgh, by whom he had two sons, Edmund and Edward, who both died issueless, and four daus., viz.,
Ankeret, m. to John, Lord Strange, of Blackmere
Ida, m. to Wm. Trussell.
Alice, m. to Nicholas Langford.
Dionyse, m. to Hugh de Cokesay.
He d. in 1334, and was s. by his eldest son, William Boteler, 2nd Baron Boteler of Wemme..."1

; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: II 232.2 GAV-20 EDV-21 GKJ-22. He was 1st Lord (Baron) Bottiler of Wem and Oversley on 10 March 1308.1

Family 2

Ela de Herdeburgh b. c 1282
Children

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, p. 63. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Le Botiler: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00337529&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Le Botiler: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00337532&tree=LEO
  4. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Blackmere 7: p. 108. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Angharad: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00337533&tree=LEO
  6. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 77-32, p. 76. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ela de Herdeburgh: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00337531&tree=LEO
  8. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Clinton 6.i: p. 219.
  9. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Boteler 9: p. 134.
  10. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Blackmere 8: p. 109.
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ankaret Le Botiler: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00327677&tree=LEO
  12. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Longford 8: p. 460.
  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alice Le Botiler: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00414042&tree=LEO

Beatrice (?)1

F, #10942
ReferenceEDV21 GKJ22
Last Edited2 Jul 2006
     Beatrice (?) married William le Botiller 1st Lord Botiller of Wem and Oversley, co. Warwick, son of William le Botiler 1st Baron Le Botiler and Angharad ferch Gruffud ap Madog; his 1st wife; Burke's Extinct Peerages shows William's 1st wife (and his only son's mother) to have been :Ankeret, dau. of Griffin". I have chosen to follow Weis's lineage [GAV - 15 April 2003].1,2,3
     EDV-21 GKJ-22.

Citations

  1. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 77-32, p. 76. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  2. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, p. 63. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Le Botiler: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00337529&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Joan de Sudeley1,2

F, #10943, b. circa 1338, d. before 11 August 1367
FatherJohn de Sudeley 2nd Lord Sudeley3,1,4,2 b. 1305, d. b 19 Feb 1340
MotherEleanor de Scales3,1,4,2 d. 1361
Last Edited9 Jun 2020
     Joan de Sudeley was born circa 1338.5 She married William le Botiller 2nd Lord Botiller, of Wem and Oversley, son of William le Botiller 1st Lord Botiller of Wem and Oversley, co. Warwick and Beatrice (?), circa 1354; his 2nd wife; Utz #2 29 May 2005 says m. bef 1355.3,1,5,2
Joan de Sudeley died before 11 August 1367.4,2
     

Family

William le Botiller 2nd Lord Botiller, of Wem and Oversley b. 8 Sep 1298, d. 22 Dec 1361
Child

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Sudeley Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Boteler 9: p. 134. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 222-35, p. 185. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  4. [S1720] David Utz, "Utz email #2 29 May 2005 "Aline de Gai's descents to Robert Abell"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 May 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Utz email #2 29 May 2005."
  5. [S1720] David Utz, "Utz email #2 29 May 2005," e-mail to e-mail address, 29 May 2005, 7 Joan de Sudeley b: Abt. 1338 d: Bef. 11 August 1367
    .... +William le Botiller b: 08 September 1298 m: Bef. 1355 d: 22 December 1361.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Thomas Boteler: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00349574&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  7. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Belknap 10: p. 89.

Sir John Lovel Knt., 6th Lord Lovel of Titchmarsh, Lord Holand1,2,3

M, #10944, b. circa 1378, d. 19 October 1414
FatherSir John Lovel Knt., KG, 5th Lord Lovel of Titmarsh4,5,6,3 b. bt 1340 - 1341, d. 10 Sep 1408
MotherMaud de Holand Baroness Holand4,6,7,3 b. c 1356, d. 7 May 1423
Last Edited3 Jan 2009
     Sir John Lovel Knt., 6th Lord Lovel of Titchmarsh, Lord Holand was born circa 1378; Richardson says "aged 30 in 1408."4,2 He married Alianor/Eleanor La Zouche, daughter of William La Zouche 3rd Lord Zouche of Haryngworth and Agnes Greene.1,4,8,2,3
Sir John Lovel Knt., 6th Lord Lovel of Titchmarsh, Lord Holand died on 19 October 1414.9,4,8,2,3
     ; JOHN LOVEL, 6th LORD (Baron) LOVEL (of Titchmarsh); b c 1378; m Eleanor (?)Zouche, dau(?) of 3rd Lord (Baron) Zouche (of Haryngworth) (see below), and dvm 19 Oct 1414.4

; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: VI 532.3 He was M. P. between 1409 and 1414.9

Citations

  1. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 125-7, p. 166. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Lovel 12: p. 464. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Lovel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00348555&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Zouche Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Lovel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00377419&tree=LEO
  6. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Lovel 11: pp. 463-464.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud de Holand: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00377420&tree=LEO
  8. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rohan 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/rohan/rohan2.html
  9. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 215-33, p. 179. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  10. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 214-34, p. 178.
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Philippe Lovell: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00429097&tree=LEO

Sir John Lovel Knt., KG, 5th Lord Lovel of Titmarsh1,2

M, #10945, b. between 1340 and 1341, d. 10 September 1408
FatherSir John Lovel Knt., de jure 3rd Lord Lovel of Titchmarsh, Northamptonshire3 b. c Sep 1314, d. 3 Nov 1347
MotherIsabel La Zouche3 d. 2 Jul 1349
Last Edited3 Jan 2009
     Sir John Lovel Knt., KG, 5th Lord Lovel of Titmarsh was born between 1340 and 1341; Richardson says "aged 6 or 6 1/2 in 1347, aged 21 in 1361."1 He married Maud de Holand Baroness Holand, daughter of Robert de Holand of Nether Kellet, Lancashire and Alice de Lisle, circa 1372; Richardson says m. bef 3 May 1373.4,5,6,2,7
Sir John Lovel Knt., KG, 5th Lord Lovel of Titmarsh died on 10 September 1408 at Wardour, Wiltshire, England.4,5,2
     He was 5th LORD (Baron) LOVEL (of Titchmarsh.)5

; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: VIII 219 & VI 532.2 He was M. P. between 1375 and 1407.4

; 111 Knight of the Garter.2

Family

Maud de Holand Baroness Holand b. c 1356, d. 7 May 1423
Children

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Lovel 11: pp. 463-464. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Lovel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00377419&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Lovel 10: p. 463.
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 215-32, p. 179. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  5. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Zouche Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  6. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Holand 9: p. 400.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud de Holand: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00377420&tree=LEO
  8. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Norfolk Family Page.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Lovel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00348555&tree=LEO

Maud de Holand Baroness Holand1,2,3,4

F, #10946, b. circa 1356, d. 7 May 1423
FatherRobert de Holand of Nether Kellet, Lancashire1,5,2,3,4 d. 1372/73
MotherAlice de Lisle1,2,3 d. b 31 Dec 1401
Last Edited3 Jan 2009
     Maud de Holand Baroness Holand was born circa 1356; Richardson says "aged 17 in 1373."6,1,3,7,4 She married Sir John Lovel Knt., KG, 5th Lord Lovel of Titmarsh, son of Sir John Lovel Knt., de jure 3rd Lord Lovel of Titchmarsh, Northamptonshire and Isabel La Zouche, circa 1372; Richardson says m. bef 3 May 1373.8,1,2,3,4
Maud de Holand Baroness Holand died on 7 May 1423.6,1,4,7
     ; van de Pas cites: 1. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: VI 532
2. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America bef.1700, 7th Edition, 1992, Weis, Frederick Lewis, Reference: 48.8,4

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Zouche Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Holand 9: p. 400. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Lovel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00377419&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud de Holand: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00377420&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert de Holand: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00377417&tree=LEO
  6. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 47A-33, p. 48. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  7. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Lovel 11: pp. 463-464.
  8. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 215-32, p. 179.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Lovel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00348555&tree=LEO

Sir John Lovel Knt., de jure 3rd Lord Lovel of Titchmarsh, Northamptonshire1

M, #10947, b. circa September 1314, d. 3 November 1347
FatherJohn Lovel 2nd Lord Lovel of Titchmarsh, Northamptonshire2 b. c 1288, d. 24 Jun 1314
MotherMaud Burnell b. 1290, d. b 17 May 1341
Last Edited3 Jan 2009
     Sir John Lovel Knt., de jure 3rd Lord Lovel of Titchmarsh, Northamptonshire was born circa September 1314.3 He married Isabel La Zouche, daughter of Eon/Eudo La Zouche and Joan Inge, before 1340; Richardson doesn't give her family name, just her given name as Isabel.3,4,1
Sir John Lovel Knt., de jure 3rd Lord Lovel of Titchmarsh, Northamptonshire died on 3 November 1347.3,4,1
     ; Weis [AR7] 215-31.3

Family

Isabel La Zouche d. 2 Jul 1349
Child

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Lovel 10: p. 463. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Burnell 9: p. 172.
  3. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 215-31, p. 179. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  4. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rohan 1 page - Family de Rohan: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/rohan/rohan1.html

Isabel La Zouche1

F, #10948, d. 2 July 1349
FatherEon/Eudo La Zouche1 b. 1297/98, d. 24 Apr 1326
MotherJoan Inge1 b. c 1300, d. b Jan 1359/60
Last Edited3 Jan 2009
     Isabel La Zouche married Sir John Lovel Knt., de jure 3rd Lord Lovel of Titchmarsh, Northamptonshire, son of John Lovel 2nd Lord Lovel of Titchmarsh, Northamptonshire and Maud Burnell, before 1340; Richardson doesn't give her family name, just her given name as Isabel.2,1,3
Isabel La Zouche died on 2 July 1349.2,3

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Rohan 1 page - Family de Rohan: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/rohan/rohan1.html
  2. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 215-31, p. 179. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Lovel 10: p. 463. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

John Lovel 2nd Lord Lovel of Titchmarsh, Northamptonshire1,2,3,4,5

M, #10949, b. circa 1288, d. 24 June 1314
FatherSir John Lovel Knt., 1st Lord Lovel3 b. 1252, d. b 1 Oct 1310
MotherJoan de Ros3 d. 13 Oct 1348
Last Edited3 Jan 2009
     John Lovel 2nd Lord Lovel of Titchmarsh, Northamptonshire was born circa 1288.6,3,5
John Lovel 2nd Lord Lovel of Titchmarsh, Northamptonshire died on 24 June 1314 at Battle of Bannockburn, Bannockburn, Scotland.6,3,5 He married Maud Burnell, daughter of Sir Philip Burnell Knt., of Acton Burnell, co. Salop and Maud Fitz Alan, before 1315; her 1st husband.6,1,2,3,4,5,7
     ; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: VIII 217.5 John Lovel 2nd Lord Lovel of Titchmarsh, Northamptonshire was M. P. between 1311 and 1314.6

Family

Maud Burnell b. 1290, d. b 17 May 1341
Child

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Burnell - Barons Burnell, p. 93. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S2199] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 16 Nov 2007: "Maud Fitz Alan (died c.1326), wife of Philip Burnell, Robert de Brus,      and Simon de Criketot"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 16 Nov 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 16 Nov 2007."
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Burnell 9: p. 172. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  4. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Lovel 10: p. 463.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Lovel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00487111&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  6. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 215-30, p. 179. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud Burnell: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00487112&tree=LEO

Maud Burnell1,2,3,4

F, #10950, b. 1290, d. before 17 May 1341
FatherSir Philip Burnell Knt., of Acton Burnell, co. Salop1,5,6,3,4 b. 1 Aug 1264, d. 26 Jun 1294
MotherMaud Fitz Alan1,5,6,3,4 d. b 17 Nov 1326
Last Edited3 Jan 2009
     Maud Burnell was born in 1290; Richardson says b. 1290-4: "aged 21 or 25 in 1315."7,3 She married John Lovel 2nd Lord Lovel of Titchmarsh, Northamptonshire, son of Sir John Lovel Knt., 1st Lord Lovel and Joan de Ros, before 1315; her 1st husband.7,1,5,3,8,9,4 Maud Burnell married Sir John de Haudlo Knt., of Hadlow, Ashendon, etc. before 4 December 1315; her 2nd husband; his 2nd wife.1,10,5,3
Maud Burnell died before 17 May 1341.7,3,4
     ; van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: VIII 217.4

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Burnell - Barons Burnell, p. 93. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, JMaud Burnell: http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00463163&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Burnell 9: p. 172. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud Burnell: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00487112&tree=LEO
  5. [S2199] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 16 Nov 2007: "Maud Fitz Alan (died c.1326), wife of Philip Burnell, Robert de Brus,      and Simon de Criketot"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 16 Nov 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 16 Nov 2007."
  6. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Burnell 8: pp. 171-172.
  7. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 215-30, p. 179. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  8. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Lovel 10: p. 463.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Lovel: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00487111&tree=LEO
  10. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Burnell - Barons Burnell, of Holgate, co. Salop, p. 93.
  11. [S1429] Notable British Families, Notable British Families CD # 367, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Burnell - Barons Burnell, p. 94.
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Nicholas Burnell: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00416735&tree=LEO