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     Hermann II von Werl Graf von Werl, Graf von Westfalen was born circa 980.² He married Godila (?) von Rothenburg, daughter of Werner von Rothenburg, in 1007
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Her 2nd husband; his 2nd wife(?)^7,2,8,5
Hermann II von Werl Graf von Werl, Graf von Westfalen died in 1025; Genealogics says d. 1025; Med Lands says d.l aft 14 Sep 1029.^1,2,5
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "GODILA (-1015). Thietmar names a "nobly born woman from the West…Godila" as wife of Lothar, naming her father Werner and specifying that her cousin was Wicfrid Bishop of Verdun[736]. Thietmar records that Godila remained unmarried for four years after her husband died then married secondly "her relative Hermann"[737]. Godila's second husband has been identified as Hermann [II] Graf von Werl[738]. If this is correct she must have been his second wife as Thietmar records that "she was denied any hope of future offspring" as she was excommunicated for the marriage, her husband being "her relative"[739].
     "m firstly LOTHAR [III] Graf von Walbeck, Markgraf der Nordmark, son of LOTHAR [II] Graf von Walbeck & his wife Mathilde von Arneburg (-25 Jan 1003, bur Köln Cathedral).
     "m secondly (1007) as his second wife, HERMANN [II] Graf von Werl, son of HERMANN [I] Graf von Werl & his wife Gerberga of Burgundy (-after 14 Sep [1029])."
Med Lands cites:

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: 1.3 334.²

; Per Genealogics:
     "Hermann II was born about 980, the eldest son of Hermann I, Graf von Werl, and Gerberge de Bourgogne. He was count of Werl, count of Lochtrop, Leri and Dreigau (upper Sauerland) and count of the diocese of Osnabrück. He was also steward of the abbeys and convents of Liesborn, Meschede and Oedingen.
     "He was married twice. The identity of his first wife is unknown. The second, whom he married in 1007, was Godila (von Rothenburg), the widow of Lothar III, Graf im Derlingau, Markgraf von Nordmark. It is not clear which of his children were from his first marriage and which from the second. His children included Heinrich I, Konrad I, Adalbert, Bernhard II, possibly Hermann I, bishop of Münster, Rudolf and Mathilde.
     "Hermann first appears in 997 in a charter of Emperor Otto III who gave the estate of Stockhausen, that had been possessed by a deceased imperial outlaw, to the Werl convent of Meschede at the request of Hermann's mother. In 1000 Hermann and his mother Gerberge founded the convent of Oedingen in the district of Lochtrop. Hermann was its steward.
     "After the death of Otto III in 1002, the house of Werl gave its support, at the next election for emperor, not to their cousin, the future Emperor Heinrich II, son of Heinrich 'der Zanker', but to the second husband of Gerberge, Hermann II, Herzog von Schwaben. Hermann von Werl later stood in clear opposition to the emperor. Probably for this reason the house of Werl was rarely mentioned at this time in imperial documents. The conflicts of Hermann and his family members with various bishops were also grounded in the bishops' support for the emperor.
     "Politically Hermann was an opponent of Bishop Dietrich of Münster. In 1016/17 this came to a dispute over the convent Liesborn. The convent had passed from the Ekbertiner (the family founded by Ekbert, dux of Saxony under Charlemagne) to the counts of Werl, but Emperor Heinrich II placed it under the bishop of Münster. The feud was stopped by imperial command. However a year later Heinrich I, a son of Hermann, feuded with Heribert, archbishop of Cologne, because he had arrested Heinrich's mother on grounds that were not recorded. In the autumn of that year, the house of Werl fought together with Graf Thietmar von Sachsen, grandson of Hermann Billung, with whom they may have been related, against Bishop Meinwerk of Paderborn over the abbey of Helmarshausen. In the course of the feud Hermann was captured by Udo, Graf von Katlenburg. The emperor considered the actions of the allies to constitute a revolt, and celebrated its defeat.
     "At Christmas that year the emperor pardoned the plotters. In 1019/20 the unrest led to a general revolt in Westphalia and Saxony against the emperor under Bernhard II, Herzog von Sachsen. The last years of Heinrich led to a degree of reconciliation, as Hermann is recorded in 1024 as a senior witness in imperial charters. There is some evidence that Hermann accompanied the emperor on his final journey to the palatinate of Grona.
     "After the death of Emperor Heinrich II, Hermann played an important role in clarifying the succession. Because of his links with the candidates he appeared as the ideal intermediary. Konrad II was husband of Hermann's half-sister Gisela von Schwaben. The other candidate Konrad I, Herzog von Kärnten, was married to Hermann's half-sister Mathilde.
     "Immediately after the death of the emperor an assembly of the Saxon nobility was held at Werla on the Oker, to prepare for an election for the next emperor, under the leadership of Bernhard II, Herzog von Sachsen. Hermann took part in the assembly, which also led to his reconciliation with Bishop Meinwerk. Hermann also attended the assembly of princes at the grave of the holy Ida von Hersfeld, around the time of the election on 4 September 10124 in Kampa. The royal tour of the new emperor Konrad II led him to Westphalia, where a court was held in Dortmund at the end of 1024. Hermann was also present, recorded as a witness among other nobles in an imperial charter. Later he was less close to the emperor, because at least part of the house of Werl supported Konrad I, Herzog von Kärnten, in the years 1026-1028 in his dispute with the emperor.
     "Hermann was a steward of the abbey of Werden. After Abbot Hettharnich complained to the emperor of interference by Hermann, Hermann was granted the courts in Arnsberg and other possessions, and the house of Werl gave up other claims against the abbey. This allowed the land holdings of the house, somewhat reduced through estate divisions, to be consolidated again to a reasonable extent.
     "Hermann died in 1025."²

; Per Med Lands:
     "HERMANN [II] von Werl (-after 14 Sep [1029]). "Otto tercius…Romanorum imperator augustus" granted privileges to Kloster Oedingen founded by "matrona Gerberga…in comitatu Herimanni eius filii" to the monks of the Marienkapelle at Aachen by charter dated 18 May 1000[2967]. Thietmar names "Count Hermann son of Gerberga" when recording his dispute with Dietrich Bishop of Münster in 1016[2968]. Graf im Lochtropgau 997. Graf 1016/17. Vogt of Kloster Werden, until 1019. Graf im Dreingau 1019. Graf im Lerigau 1020. Graf von Werl 1024. "Herimanni comitis et filiorum eius Heinrici, Counradi, Athelberti, Bernhardi" witnessed a donation of property dated "Id Sep 1024" by "Hildigunda abbatissa de Gesike" and one dated "XVIII Kal Oct [1029]" by "Brun comes cum uxore sua Ida"[2969].
     "m [firstly] ---.
     "[m secondly (1007) as her second husband, GODILA, widow of LOTHAR [III] von Walbeck Markgraf der Nordgau, daughter of WERNER [Graf von Rothenburg] & his wife --- (-1015). Thietmar names a "nobly born woman from the West…Godila" as wife of Lothar, naming her father Werner and specifying that her cousin was Wicfrid Bishop of Verdun[2970]. Thietmar records that Godila remained unmarried for four years after her husband died then married secondly "her relative Hermann"[2971]. Godila's second husband has been identified as Hermann [II] Graf von Werl[2972]. If this is correct she must have been his second wife as Thietmar records that "she was denied any hope of future offspring" as she was excommunicated for the marriage, her husband being "her relative"[2973].]"
Med Lands cites: He was living in 1024.¹

     Rudolf von Werl Graf von Werl was born between 982 and 986.²
Rudolf von Werl Graf von Werl died after 1040.¹
      ; Per Genealogics:
     “Rudolf was born between 982 and 986, the younger son of Hermann I, Graf von Werl, and Gerberge de Bourgogne. He was the brother of Hermann II, Bernhard and Ida or Hitda, and the half-brother of the Gisela von Schwaben, married to Emperor Konrad II, and of Mathilde von Schwaben, married to Konrad I, Herzog von Kärnten. He was also cousin of Emperor Heinrich II 'der Heilige', Gisela's son by her second husband Heinrich II 'der Zanker', Herzog von Bayern, and he was nephew of Rudolf III, king of Burgundy.
     “Rudolf had a son Hermann III, who married Richenza von Schwaben about 1045 and had a daughter Oda with her. Another child may have been Rudolf/Rotho, bishop of Paderborn.
     “Little is known about Rudolf, but he was named after his uncle. His name was later adopted by the counts of Stade, following the marriage of his granddaughter Oda to Lothar-Udo III, Graf von Stade, Markgraf der Nordmark; their son was Rudolf I.
     “Rudolf was ruler of a countship in the kingdom in the Groningerland in Frisian Emsland. In this capacity he was still mentioned in sources about 1040. He may have had stewardship rights over the abbey of Werden in the Emsland. He seems to have supported the opposition of his brother Hermann against Emperor Heinrich II in 1019/19, and the opposition of his half-sister Mathilde against her brother-in-law Konrad II in 1025-1027.
     “The Book of the Dead from Essen lists Rudolf on 12 July as 'Rudolphus comes'. It is assumed that he died on that day in about 1044.”.²

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 1.3:334.²

; Per Med Lands: "RUDOLF von Werl (-after 1040). "Rodulfus et Bernhardus nati in…Werla" are named brothers of Empress Gisela in the Annalista Saxo, without specifying that they were her uterine brothers[2979]. Graf im Mittleren Friesland 1040. m ---. The name of Rudolf's wife is not known."
Med Lands cites: [2979] Annalista Saxo 1026.¹ EDV-30.

     Konrad (?) von Werl died after 1024.¹
     He was living in 1024.¹

     Adalbert von Werl died after 1024.¹
     He was living in 1024.¹