Aveline de Montfichet1,2,3
F, #60631, d. circa November 1239
Father | Richard de Montfichet of Stanstead Montfichet, Essex4,2,3,5 b. b 1178, d. 1204 |
Mother | Millicent (?)4,2,3,6,5 d. a 1234 |
Last Edited | 22 Dec 2020 |
Aveline de Montfichet married William II de Forz Comte d'Aumale, lord of Holderness and Skipton, son of William de Forz seigneur de Forz, Comte d'Aumale and Hawise (?) Countess of Aumale, Lady of Holderness, circa 1214.1,2,3
Aveline de Montfichet died circa November 1239.2,3
; Per Richardson:
"
A5. Aveline de Lucy (+after 1206), m. Gilbert de Montfitchet, of Stanstead Montfitchet and Fryerning, Essex (+1186/7)
....B1. Richard de Montfitchet, of Stanstead Montfitchet, Essex, *before 1178, +1204, m. Millicent _____
........C1. Richard de Montfitchet, of Stanstead Montfitchet, Essex, Magna Carta Surety, +1267, m. before 1253 Joyce _____, wid. of Gilbert de Greinville (she +1274)
........C2. Philippe de Montfitchet, m. Hugh de Plaiz, of Iford, Sussex (+1244)
............D1. Hugh de Plaiz
............D2. Richard de Plaiz, of Iford, Sussex,*about 1228, +1269, m. Joan _____ (+after 1271)
........C3. Aveline de Montfitchet, +about Nov. 1239, m. about 1214 William de Forz II, titular Count of Aumale, lord of Holderness and Skipton (+ 1241, Mediterranean)
............D1. William de Forz III, titular Count of Aumale, lord of Holderness and Skipton, +23 May 1260 Amiens, m. (1) before Apr. 1236 Christian of Galloway (+before 29 July 1246); m. (2) 1248/9 Isabel de Rivers, Countess of Devon (*July 1237, +10 Nov. 1293 Stockwell, Surrey)
........C4. Margaret de Montfichet, m. (1) Hugh de Bolbec III, of Styford, Northumberland (+after 1224); m. (2) after Oct. 1214 Peter de Faucomberge, of Rise, Yorkshire (+after Apr. 1230.)7"
; Aveline de Montfitchet, +about Nov. 1239, m. about 1214 William de Forz II, titular Count of Aumale, lord of Holderness and Skipton (+ 1241, Mediterranean.)2
Aveline de Montfichet died circa November 1239.2,3
; Per Richardson:
"
A5. Aveline de Lucy (+after 1206), m. Gilbert de Montfitchet, of Stanstead Montfitchet and Fryerning, Essex (+1186/7)
....B1. Richard de Montfitchet, of Stanstead Montfitchet, Essex, *before 1178, +1204, m. Millicent _____
........C1. Richard de Montfitchet, of Stanstead Montfitchet, Essex, Magna Carta Surety, +1267, m. before 1253 Joyce _____, wid. of Gilbert de Greinville (she +1274)
........C2. Philippe de Montfitchet, m. Hugh de Plaiz, of Iford, Sussex (+1244)
............D1. Hugh de Plaiz
............D2. Richard de Plaiz, of Iford, Sussex,*about 1228, +1269, m. Joan _____ (+after 1271)
........C3. Aveline de Montfitchet, +about Nov. 1239, m. about 1214 William de Forz II, titular Count of Aumale, lord of Holderness and Skipton (+ 1241, Mediterranean)
............D1. William de Forz III, titular Count of Aumale, lord of Holderness and Skipton, +23 May 1260 Amiens, m. (1) before Apr. 1236 Christian of Galloway (+before 29 July 1246); m. (2) 1248/9 Isabel de Rivers, Countess of Devon (*July 1237, +10 Nov. 1293 Stockwell, Surrey)
........C4. Margaret de Montfichet, m. (1) Hugh de Bolbec III, of Styford, Northumberland (+after 1224); m. (2) after Oct. 1214 Peter de Faucomberge, of Rise, Yorkshire (+after Apr. 1230.)7"
; Aveline de Montfitchet, +about Nov. 1239, m. about 1214 William de Forz II, titular Count of Aumale, lord of Holderness and Skipton (+ 1241, Mediterranean.)2
Family | William II de Forz Comte d'Aumale, lord of Holderness and Skipton d. 29 Mar 1241 |
Child |
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Forz: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00385643&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1784] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 29 July 2005 "Re: Descendants of Sir Richard de Lucy and Rohese of Boulogne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/F9_d7JZUuk0/m/5jgR9n064yQJ) to e-mail address, 29 July 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 29 July 2005."
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Aumale.pdf, p. 4. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1683] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 15 Sept 2004 "Margaret de Munfitchet, wife of Peter de Fauconberge"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 15 Sept 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 15 Sept 2004."
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntlo.htm#_ftnref1194. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Milicent: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00448041&tree=LEO
- [S1784] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 29 July 2005," e-mail to e-mail address, 29 July 2005, https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/F9_d7JZUuk0/m/5jgR9n064yQJ
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Forz: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00385641&tree=LEO
Ermengarde (?) de Flandres1,2
F, #60633, b. circa 1005
Father | Baudouin IV "le Barbu" (?) Graaf van Vlaanderen, Cmte de Valenciennes3,1,2 b. c 980, d. 30 May 1035 |
Mother | Otgiva/Ogive (?) de Luxembourg3,4,5,6 b. bt 990 - 995, d. 21 Feb 1030 |
Reference | GAV28 EDV28 |
Last Edited | 11 Jun 2020 |
Ermengarde (?) de Flandres married Adalbert de Gand 1er Châtelain héréditaire de Gand, son of Arnulf I 'Gandensis' (?) Count of Holland and West Friesland and Liutgard (?) de Luxembourg.3,1,2
Ermengarde (?) de Flandres was born circa 1005.7
GAV-28 EDV-28 GKJ-28. Ermengarde (?) de Flandres was also known as Ermengarde (?) of Flanders.3,1,2
Ermengarde (?) de Flandres was born circa 1005.7
GAV-28 EDV-28 GKJ-28. Ermengarde (?) de Flandres was also known as Ermengarde (?) of Flanders.3,1,2
Family | Adalbert de Gand 1er Châtelain héréditaire de Gand b. c 979, d. c 1032 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf, p. 4. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Gand.pdf, p. 3.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders1.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Châtelains de Gand (Burggrafen van Gent) seigneur d’Aalst (Alost) & Famille Vilain de Gand, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Gand.pdf
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Flandre(s) Vlaanderen, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf
- [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Ogive de Luxembourg: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogive_de_Luxembourg. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
- [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I31893
- [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I10887
(?) Melissene1
F, #60634
Last Edited | 10 Dec 2019 |
(?) Melissene married Senacherim (?) Strategos of the theme of Nikopolis
; Her 1st husband.1 (?) Melissene married Mikhael Komenos Dukas Angelos seigneur d’Epire et de Melissene), son of Ioannes Doukas Angelos Sebastocrator, Lord of Epirus, in 1204
;
His 2nd wife; her 2nd husband.1
; Per Med Lands:
"m secondly (1204) as her second husband, his first wife's cousin, --- Melissene, widow of SENACHERIM strategos of the theme of Nikopolis, daughter of --- Melissenos & his wife ---. This second marriage is recorded in the late 13th century life of St Theodora Petraliphina of Arta[54]. According to Geoffrey of Villehardouin, a "Greek named Michaelis who had come from Constantinople with the marquis" married "the daughter of a wealthy Greek who held his land from the emperor" at Arta, and "after seizing that land for himself, began to make war on the marquis"[55]. From the context, this marriage must be dated to mid-1204 and so presumably refers to Mikhael's second marriage. The primary source which identifies her relationship with her second husband's first wife and names her first husband has not been identified."
Med Lands cites:
; Her 1st husband.1 (?) Melissene married Mikhael Komenos Dukas Angelos seigneur d’Epire et de Melissene), son of Ioannes Doukas Angelos Sebastocrator, Lord of Epirus, in 1204
;
His 2nd wife; her 2nd husband.1
; Per Med Lands:
"m secondly (1204) as her second husband, his first wife's cousin, --- Melissene, widow of SENACHERIM strategos of the theme of Nikopolis, daughter of --- Melissenos & his wife ---. This second marriage is recorded in the late 13th century life of St Theodora Petraliphina of Arta[54]. According to Geoffrey of Villehardouin, a "Greek named Michaelis who had come from Constantinople with the marquis" married "the daughter of a wealthy Greek who held his land from the emperor" at Arta, and "after seizing that land for himself, began to make war on the marquis"[55]. From the context, this marriage must be dated to mid-1204 and so presumably refers to Mikhael's second marriage. The primary source which identifies her relationship with her second husband's first wife and names her first husband has not been identified."
Med Lands cites:
[54] Fine (1994), p. 66.
[55] Villehardouin, pp. 106-7.1
[55] Villehardouin, pp. 106-7.1
Family 1 | Senacherim (?) Strategos of the theme of Nikopolis d. b 1204 |
Citations
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ALBANIA.htm#MikhaelAdied1215A. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Eudes (?) of Cambrai1,2
M, #60635
Last Edited | 27 Aug 2020 |
Eudes (?) of Cambrai married Odèle (?) de Bois-Ferrand.1
; According to the the Henry Project: "Falsely attributed son (existence unlikely, evidently a fabrication) [falsely attributed to Arnulf II Count of Flanders d. 987]:
"MALE Eudes, count of Cambrai, m. (1) Adèle de Beaumont, his niece; (2) Adèle de Bois-Ferrand. (existence of both spouses also doubtful)
"This falsehood, which has been picked up by some printed and internet references, is based largely on George Andrews Moriarty's The Plantagenet Ancestry, which in turn was evidently based on the work of a certain T. Friedrich von Stauffenberg. The account (in Moriarty's handwriting) reads as follows [Moriarty, 277]:
"This is followed by a genealogical table repeating above information in tabular form. The page numbers in the two references to Migne are difficult to read in Moriarty's handwriting, and could be volumes 126-7 or 136-7. Moriarty's work is essentially a collection of handwritten notes, based largely on secondary sources, and was certainly not intended to be published in its present form. In the present case, it seems unlikely that Moriarty did any further research of his own to follow up the notes he took from Stauffenberg's work (which I have not seen). If he had, he would undoubtedly have noticed that Benedict VIII (not IX) was pope in 1012, and that volumes 116-7 (or 126-7, 136-7) do not contain letters of either Benedict. In addition, there appears to be no reference to a 'Thibaut de Louvain' in the works of Aubry de Troisfontaines, Orderic Vitalis, or Guillaume de Jumièges. Furthermore, standard histories of the city of Cambrai make no mention of this Eudes, despite the fact that the alleged marriage of a count to his own niece that attracted the attention of the pope would, if true, be a notable event that historians would be unlikely to miss. I know of no evidence which would confirm even the existence of count Eudes of Cambrai (or of either of his two wives, or of Guilbert de Beaumont, etc.) Given that the bibliographical references do not seem to check out, it is difficult to regard these claims as anything other than a fabrication.“.2
; According to the the Henry Project: "Falsely attributed son (existence unlikely, evidently a fabrication) [falsely attributed to Arnulf II Count of Flanders d. 987]:
"MALE Eudes, count of Cambrai, m. (1) Adèle de Beaumont, his niece; (2) Adèle de Bois-Ferrand. (existence of both spouses also doubtful)
"This falsehood, which has been picked up by some printed and internet references, is based largely on George Andrews Moriarty's The Plantagenet Ancestry, which in turn was evidently based on the work of a certain T. Friedrich von Stauffenberg. The account (in Moriarty's handwriting) reads as follows [Moriarty, 277]:
"T. Friedrich von Stauffenberg Esq. M. B. of Washington, D. C. has made an extensive study of the neglected cadets of the counts of Flanders and their descendants, based on the chartularies of the abbeys of St. Omer, St. Pierre, St. Bavo, Notre Dame d'Ourscamp and Cysoing and the most reliable chronicles of the Flemish region."
"The records of St. Pierre de Cambrai record an [sic] remembrance for the soul of Count Odo (Eudes), son of Count Arnulf, and Susanne 'lately Queen of France (i.e. Susanne of Italy, who married 1st Arnulf Count of Flanders and 2ndly Robert King of France before 988, divorced 992, cf. p. 14 ante). It provides for prayers for his soul and the souls of his father Arnulf, his mother Susanne, his sister Mathilda, widow of Guilbert de Beaumont.' "
"Eudes caused a scandal by marrying his neice [sic] Adele de Beaumont, daughter of Mathilda. He was anathematized by Pope Benedict IX and a letter of his brother Count Baldwin IV to the Pope in 1012 regarding the matter is in Migne P.L. vol. 116[?] or 117[?]. Adele died before 1015/16 and the chartularies of both St.Peter de Cambrai and St. Omer record Eudes' charters "in Poenitentia." He remarried Adele daughter of Thibaud Seigneur of Bois Ferrand, called 'Thibaud de Louvain' by Alberic de Trois Fontaines, Orderic Vitalis and William of Jumièges. By his first wife he had 2 sons Richard and Roger who joined the Normans in Italy and by his second wife Adele of Bois Ferrand he had Englebert of Brienne (see vols. ix, p. 84 and xiii, p. 257), Roger Count of St. Pol, and Peter Count of Arlon."
"The records of St. Pierre de Cambrai record an [sic] remembrance for the soul of Count Odo (Eudes), son of Count Arnulf, and Susanne 'lately Queen of France (i.e. Susanne of Italy, who married 1st Arnulf Count of Flanders and 2ndly Robert King of France before 988, divorced 992, cf. p. 14 ante). It provides for prayers for his soul and the souls of his father Arnulf, his mother Susanne, his sister Mathilda, widow of Guilbert de Beaumont.' "
"Eudes caused a scandal by marrying his neice [sic] Adele de Beaumont, daughter of Mathilda
"This is followed by a genealogical table repeating above information in tabular form. The page numbers in the two references to Migne are difficult to read in Moriarty's handwriting, and could be volumes 126-7 or 136-7. Moriarty's work is essentially a collection of handwritten notes, based largely on secondary sources, and was certainly not intended to be published in its present form. In the present case, it seems unlikely that Moriarty did any further research of his own to follow up the notes he took from Stauffenberg's work (which I have not seen). If he had, he would undoubtedly have noticed that Benedict VIII (not IX) was pope in 1012, and that volumes 116-7 (or 126-7, 136-7) do not contain letters of either Benedict. In addition, there appears to be no reference to a 'Thibaut de Louvain' in the works of Aubry de Troisfontaines, Orderic Vitalis, or Guillaume de Jumièges. Furthermore, standard histories of the city of Cambrai make no mention of this Eudes, despite the fact that the alleged marriage of a count to his own niece that attracted the attention of the pope would, if true, be a notable event that historians would be unlikely to miss. I know of no evidence which would confirm even the existence of count Eudes of Cambrai (or of either of his two wives, or of Guilbert de Beaumont, etc.) Given that the bibliographical references do not seem to check out, it is difficult to regard these claims as anything other than a fabrication.“.2
Family | Odèle (?) de Bois-Ferrand |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders1.html
- [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Arnulf (Arnoul) I "the Great" or "the Old" (Arnulfus Magnus, Arnulfus Vetulus): https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/arnul000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
Odèle (?) de Bois-Ferrand1,2
F, #60636
Last Edited | 26 Dec 2013 |
Family | Eudes (?) of Cambrai |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders1.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
Roger I (?) Cte de St. Pol1
M, #60637, d. 13 June 1067
Father | Eudes (?) of Cambrai1 |
Mother | Odèle (?) de Bois-Ferrand1 |
Last Edited | 16 Dec 2003 |
Family | Hadwige (?) |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders1.html
Engelbert I (?) de Brienne1
M, #60639, d. after 1068
Father | Eudes (?) of Cambrai1 |
Mother | Odèle (?) de Bois-Ferrand1 |
Last Edited | 16 Dec 2003 |
Engelbert I (?) de Brienne died after 1068.1
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders1.html
Mathilde (?) de Flandres1,2,3
F, #60640, d. circa 995
Father | Arnulf (Arnold) II "The Young" (?) Graaf van Vlaanderen1,2,4,5,6 b. c 961, d. 30 Mar 987 |
Mother | Rosella/Susanna (?) Princess of Ivrea, Dame de Montreuil1,7,2,8,6 b. c 952, d. 13 Dec 1003 |
Last Edited | 27 Aug 2020 |
Mathilde (?) de Flandres died circa 995.1
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders1.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf, p. 6.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Arnulf II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00018654&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLANDERS,%20HAINAUT.htm#ArnoulIdied987B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet (now hosted by the American Society of Genealogists, ASG), online https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/, Arnulf II (Arnulfus iunior): https://fasg.org/projects/henryproject/data/arnul001.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Rosela Roxana of Italy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00018655&tree=LEO
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rozala_of_Italy. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
Ethelinde (?) von Northeim1,2
F, #60641
Father | Otto I von Northeim Graf von Northeim, Duke in Bavaria1,2,3,4,5 b. c 1025, d. 11 Jan 1083 |
Mother | Richenza (?) von Schwaben1,2,3,6 d. b 11 Jan 1083 |
Last Edited | 28 Oct 2020 |
Ethelinde (?) von Northeim married Welf I/IV (?) Duke of Bavaria, son of Alberto Azzo II d'Este Marchese d'Este and Kunigunde (?) von Altdorf,
;
Her 1st husband; his 1st or 2nd wife.1,2,7,3,8 Ethelinde (?) von Northeim and Welf I/IV (?) Duke of Bavaria were divorced in 1070.2,7,3,8 Ethelinde (?) von Northeim married Hermann II von Calvelage Graf von Calvelage, Gf im Westmünsterland, son of Hermann/Hezelo (?) von Enham, Graf in Eifelgau, Vicomte of Verdun and Matilde (?) von Dasburg, after 1070
;
Her 2nd husband; his 1st(?) wife.9,10,11,12
; Per Genealogy.EU (Welf 2): "A1. [1m.] Welf IV Herzog von Bayern (1070-77)+(1096-1101), +Paphos, Cyprus 9.11.1101; 1m: (div 1070) Ethelinde, dau.of Otto von Northeim, Herzog von Bayern; 2m: 1071 Judith of Flanders OR Judith of Normandy (*ca 1033 +5.3.1094). By 1m. Welf acquired Bavaria."1
; Per Med Lands:
"WELF [IV], son of ALBERTO AZZO [II] Conte di Luni [Este] & his first wife Kunigunde von Altdorf [Welf] ([1035/40]-Paphos Cyprus 9 Nov 1101, bur Cyprus, removed to Weingarten, near Lake Constance). The Annalista Saxo names "Welfum seniorum" son of "Azoni marchioni de Langobardia de castris Calun et Estin" (called "Welphus filius Azzonis marchionis Italorum" in an earlier passage[297]) and his wife "Cunizam"[298]. After the death of his maternal uncle Welf III, he was summoned from Italy by his maternal grandmother to inherit the Welf family properties in Swabia and Bavaria[299]. He was installed in 1070 as WELF I Duke of Bavaria by Heinrich IV King of Germany. Duke Welf supported Rudolf von Rheinfelden, anti-king of Germany, and was deposed as Duke of Bavaria in 1077 by Heinrich IV. "Heinricus…rex" granted property of "Welfo dux dum erat dux…in pago Passir…in comitatu Gerungi et in comitatu Friderici" to the church of Brixen by charter dated 1078[300]. "Dux Gewelfo eiusque…uxor Iudita" donated property to Kloster Weingarten, with the consent of "filiorum suorum Gwelfonis et Heinrici", dated 12 Mar 1094[301]. He sought to reassert his position in northern Italy against Emperor Heinrich IV by arranging, through Pope Urban II, the marriage of his son to the powerful landowner Matilda Ctss of Tuscany. In 1095, Welf IV was reconciled with the emperor, who regranted him the duchy of Bavaria[302]. He undertook an expedition to Italy after the death of his father in 1097 to assert his position in the inheritance over his half-brothers[303]. Albert of Aix records that "Willelmus comes et princeps Pictaviensium, de sanguine et origine Henrici tertii imperatoris Romanorum" crossed Hungary peacefully with "duce Bawariorum Welfone et…comitssa…Ida de marchia Osterrich", entered the territory of the Bulgars in which "duce Bulgarorum Guz" refused their passage into Adrianople, but that Guillaume captured "ducem Bulgarorum" who was forced to allow the pilgrims to continue, undated but in a passage adjacent to text which records events in 1101[304]. Albert of Aix records that, after their army was dispersed in Asia Minor by the Turks, Duke Welf eventually reached Jerusalem to complete his pilgrimage but died in Cyprus on the return journey[305]. Ekkehard records the death of Welf Duke of Bavaria and his burial in Cyprus[306]. The necrology of Weingarten records the death "V Id Nov" of "Welf dux senior hic sepultus"[307], which suggests that his body was moved after its first burial in Cyprus.
"[m firstly ---. According to Jordan, the first wife of Duke Welf I was "the descendant of an unknown Italian line" but he cites no primary source in support of the statement[308]. No other reference to this alleged first marriage has been found.]
"m [firstly/secondly] (divorced 1070) as her first husband, ETHELINDE von Northeim, daughter of OTTO I Graf von Northeim Duke of Bavaria & his wife Richenza of Swabia [Ezzonen]. The Annalista Saxo names "Heinricum Crassum comitem…Sifridum de Boumeneburh et Cononem comitem de Bichlinge et tres filias, ex quibus unam nomine Ethilindam accept Welpho dux Bawarie et postquam eam repudiavit duxit eam Herimannus comes de Calverla" as children of Otto von Northeim & his wife[309]. Her husband repudiated her after the disgrace of her father, whom Heinrich IV King of Germany deprived of the duchy of Bavaria[310]. She married secondly Hermann Graf von Calvelage. The Annales Stadenses refers to the four daughters of Otto, specifying that "tertia fuit uxor Hermanni de Calvela, que genuit Ottonem et Heinricum comites de Ravenesberch" without naming her[311].
"m [secondly/thirdly] ([1071]) as her second husband, JUDITH de Flandre, widow of TOSTIG Godwinson Earl of Northumbria, daughter of BAUDOUIN IV Count of Flanders & his second wife [Eléonore] de Normandie ([1033]-[5] Mar 1094, bur St Martin Monastery). The Annalista Saxo names "Iudhita…amita Rodberti comitis de Flandria ex cognatione beati Ethmundi regis" as husband of "Haroldi" (in error for Tostig) but correctly names her second husband "Welphus filius Azzonis marchionis Italorum"[312]. The Genealogia Welforum names "filiam comitis Flandrie, reginam Anglie, Iuditam nomine" as wife of Welf[313]. Florence of Worcester says that Judith was "daughter of Baldwin Count of Flanders" but does not specify which Count Baldwin nor is this clear from the context[314]. According to the Vita Ædwardi Regis, she was the sister of Count Baudouin V[315]. Alberic de Trois Fontaines asserts that Judith was one of the children of Baudouin V Count of Flanders & his wife Adela de France[316], but there are other clear errors in his listing of this couple's children so the statement should be viewed with caution. Judith is also listed as the daughter of Count Baudouin V (after Mathilde) in a manuscript whose attribution to Orderic Vitalis is disputed, which also shows her first marriage[317]. The date of her first marriage is confirmed by the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle which records that "earl Godwine" fled after the Council of 9 Sep 1051 "with Tostig and his wife who was a kinswoman of Baldwin of Bruges"[318]. Judith moved to Denmark after her first husband was killed. "Dux Gewelfo eiusque…uxor Iudita" donated property to Kloster Weingarten, with the consent of "filiorum suorum Gwelfonis et Heinrici", dated 12 Mar 1094[319]. The Chronicon of Bernold records the death "1094 IV Non Mar" of "Iuditha uxor ducis Welfonis Baioariæ" and her burial "apud monasterium…Sancti Martini" built by her husband[320]. The necrology of Raitenbuch records the death "III Non Mar" of "Iudinta regina Anglie, filia marchionis de Este uxor Welfonis nostri fundatoris"[321], exaggerating her status resulting from her first marriage and confusing her paternity. The necrology of Weingarten records the death "III Non Mar" of "Judita dux regina Anglie"[322], also exaggerating her status resulting from her first marriage."
Med Lands cites:
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; This is the same person as ”Ethelinde of Northeim” at Wikipedia and as ”Ethelinde von Northeim” at Wikipedia (DE).13,14
; Per Med Lands:
"ETHELINDE von Northeim . The Annalista Saxo names "Heinricum Crassum comitem…Sifridum de Boumeneburh et Cononem comitem de Bichlinge et tres filias, ex quibus unam nomine Ethilindam accept Welpho dux Bawarie et postquam eam repudiavit duxit eam Herimannus comes de Calverla" as children of Otto von Northeim & his wife[1536]. The Annales Stadenses refers to the four daughters of Otto, specifying that "tertia fuit uxor Hermanni de Calvela, que genuit Ottonem et Heinricum comites de Ravenesberch" without naming her[1537]. Her first husband repudiated her immediately after the disgrace of her father whom Heinrich IV King of Germany deprived of the dukedom of Bavaria[1538].
"m firstly (divorced 1070) WELF IV, son of ALBERTO AZZO II Marchese d'Este & his first wife Kunigunde von Altdorf [Este] ([1035/40]-Paphos Cyprus 9 Nov 1101, bur Cyprus, removed to Weingarten, near Lake Constance). He was installed in 1070 as WELF I Duke of Bavaria.
"m secondly [as his first wife,] HERMANN Graf von Calvelage, son of --- (-after 1144)."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"HERMANN von Calvelage, son of --- (-after 1144). "Willelmus comes de Luzzelenburch, Hermanus comes de Caluerlage, Reinoldus comes, Conradus comes, Arnoldus comes, Gerlagus comes, Imeko comes, Gerhardus comes de Heinnersberch, Hermannus comes de Salmena et filius eius, Friderikus comes de Sarebrugge…" witnessed the charter dated 27 Dec 1127 under which Lothar King of Germany granted property in Dreiech to "ministeriali Cuonrado de Hagen…[et] uxori suæ Liuckardi"[2254]. Lothar King of Germany donated property to Köln St Cunibert by charter dated 10 Feb 1129 witnessed by "…Comites: Gerhardus de Gellere, Arnoldus de Thonoburg, Gerhardus de Iulicho, Herimannus de Caluala, Henricus de Kessile, Adolphus de Berge, Adolphus de Saphinberg, Liberi: Gerhardus de Hostadin, Gerhardus de Heimesberg, Ludowicus de Quinheim, Gerhardus de Mulinarco, Gerhardus de Randirode…"[2255]. Lothar King of Germany confirmed property of Duisburg by charter dated 8 May 1129 witnessed by "…Comites: Gerhardus Longus de Gelere, Arnoldus de Cliue, Hermannus de Caluerlage, Hermannus de Salmene, Otto de Rinecke, Florentius de Hollande, Gerhardus de Hostad, Bernhardus de Hildenesheim, Godefridus et Hermannus de Cuch, Adolfus de Berge…"[2256]. Graf im Westmünsterland.
"m [firstly] (after 1070) as her second husband, ETHELINDE von Northeim, divorced wife of WELF [IV] I Duke of Bavaria, daughter of OTTO I Graf von Northeim Duke of Bavaria & his wife Richenza of Swabia [Ezzonen]. The Annalista Saxo names "Heinricum Crassum comitem…Sifridum de Boumeneburh et Cononem comitem de Bichlinge et tres filias, ex quibus unam nomine Ethilindam accept Welpho dux Bawarie et postquam eam repudiavit duxit eam Herimannus comes de Calverla" as children of Otto von Northeim & his wife[2257]. The Annales Stadenses refer to the four daughters of Otto, specifying that "tertia fuit uxor Hermanni de Calvela, que genuit Ottonem et Heinricum comites de Ravenesberch" without naming her[2258]. Her first husband repudiated her immediately after the disgrace of her father whom Heinrich IV King of Germany deprived of the dukedom of Bavaria[2259].
"m secondly ---. No record has been found of a second marriage of Hermann Graf von Calvelage. However, it looks highly probable. The chronology associated with Ethelinde von Northeim being the mother of the children of Graf Hermann is stretched. Ethelind[e must have been born in [1055/58] at the latest, assuming that she was as young as 12 at the time of her first marriage. The date of her second marriage is not known, but it would presumably not have taken place after she was aged 30/35 at the latest. This would place the births of any children by her second marriage during the 1080s, and certainly not later than [1095/1100]. If this is correct, the three children shown below would have been in their eighties or nineties when they died in 1170, 1185 and after 1166 respectively. Assuming that these death dates are accurate, it is more probable that they were born in the period [1100/1120]. This is also more consistent with the likely birth date of Hermann Graf von Ravensberg, son of Hermann's older son Otto [I].]"
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU: "D1. Hermann II, Gf im Westmünsterland ca 1030; m.Ethelinde von Northeim."10
;
Her 1st husband; his 1st or 2nd wife.1,2,7,3,8 Ethelinde (?) von Northeim and Welf I/IV (?) Duke of Bavaria were divorced in 1070.2,7,3,8 Ethelinde (?) von Northeim married Hermann II von Calvelage Graf von Calvelage, Gf im Westmünsterland, son of Hermann/Hezelo (?) von Enham, Graf in Eifelgau, Vicomte of Verdun and Matilde (?) von Dasburg, after 1070
;
Her 2nd husband; his 1st(?) wife.9,10,11,12
; Per Genealogy.EU (Welf 2): "A1. [1m.] Welf IV Herzog von Bayern (1070-77)+(1096-1101), +Paphos, Cyprus 9.11.1101; 1m: (div 1070) Ethelinde, dau.of Otto von Northeim, Herzog von Bayern; 2m: 1071 Judith of Flanders OR Judith of Normandy (*ca 1033 +5.3.1094). By 1m. Welf acquired Bavaria."1
; Per Med Lands:
"WELF [IV], son of ALBERTO AZZO [II] Conte di Luni [Este] & his first wife Kunigunde von Altdorf [Welf] ([1035/40]-Paphos Cyprus 9 Nov 1101, bur Cyprus, removed to Weingarten, near Lake Constance). The Annalista Saxo names "Welfum seniorum" son of "Azoni marchioni de Langobardia de castris Calun et Estin" (called "Welphus filius Azzonis marchionis Italorum" in an earlier passage[297]) and his wife "Cunizam"[298]. After the death of his maternal uncle Welf III, he was summoned from Italy by his maternal grandmother to inherit the Welf family properties in Swabia and Bavaria[299]. He was installed in 1070 as WELF I Duke of Bavaria by Heinrich IV King of Germany. Duke Welf supported Rudolf von Rheinfelden, anti-king of Germany, and was deposed as Duke of Bavaria in 1077 by Heinrich IV. "Heinricus…rex" granted property of "Welfo dux dum erat dux…in pago Passir…in comitatu Gerungi et in comitatu Friderici" to the church of Brixen by charter dated 1078[300]. "Dux Gewelfo eiusque…uxor Iudita" donated property to Kloster Weingarten, with the consent of "filiorum suorum Gwelfonis et Heinrici", dated 12 Mar 1094[301]. He sought to reassert his position in northern Italy against Emperor Heinrich IV by arranging, through Pope Urban II, the marriage of his son to the powerful landowner Matilda Ctss of Tuscany. In 1095, Welf IV was reconciled with the emperor, who regranted him the duchy of Bavaria[302]. He undertook an expedition to Italy after the death of his father in 1097 to assert his position in the inheritance over his half-brothers[303]. Albert of Aix records that "Willelmus comes et princeps Pictaviensium, de sanguine et origine Henrici tertii imperatoris Romanorum" crossed Hungary peacefully with "duce Bawariorum Welfone et…comitssa…Ida de marchia Osterrich", entered the territory of the Bulgars in which "duce Bulgarorum Guz" refused their passage into Adrianople, but that Guillaume captured "ducem Bulgarorum" who was forced to allow the pilgrims to continue, undated but in a passage adjacent to text which records events in 1101[304]. Albert of Aix records that, after their army was dispersed in Asia Minor by the Turks, Duke Welf eventually reached Jerusalem to complete his pilgrimage but died in Cyprus on the return journey[305]. Ekkehard records the death of Welf Duke of Bavaria and his burial in Cyprus[306]. The necrology of Weingarten records the death "V Id Nov" of "Welf dux senior hic sepultus"[307], which suggests that his body was moved after its first burial in Cyprus.
"[m firstly ---. According to Jordan, the first wife of Duke Welf I was "the descendant of an unknown Italian line" but he cites no primary source in support of the statement[308]. No other reference to this alleged first marriage has been found.]
"m [firstly/secondly] (divorced 1070) as her first husband, ETHELINDE von Northeim, daughter of OTTO I Graf von Northeim Duke of Bavaria & his wife Richenza of Swabia [Ezzonen]. The Annalista Saxo names "Heinricum Crassum comitem…Sifridum de Boumeneburh et Cononem comitem de Bichlinge et tres filias, ex quibus unam nomine Ethilindam accept Welpho dux Bawarie et postquam eam repudiavit duxit eam Herimannus comes de Calverla" as children of Otto von Northeim & his wife[309]. Her husband repudiated her after the disgrace of her father, whom Heinrich IV King of Germany deprived of the duchy of Bavaria[310]. She married secondly Hermann Graf von Calvelage. The Annales Stadenses refers to the four daughters of Otto, specifying that "tertia fuit uxor Hermanni de Calvela, que genuit Ottonem et Heinricum comites de Ravenesberch" without naming her[311].
"m [secondly/thirdly] ([1071]) as her second husband, JUDITH de Flandre, widow of TOSTIG Godwinson Earl of Northumbria, daughter of BAUDOUIN IV Count of Flanders & his second wife [Eléonore] de Normandie ([1033]-[5] Mar 1094, bur St Martin Monastery). The Annalista Saxo names "Iudhita…amita Rodberti comitis de Flandria ex cognatione beati Ethmundi regis" as husband of "Haroldi" (in error for Tostig) but correctly names her second husband "Welphus filius Azzonis marchionis Italorum"[312]. The Genealogia Welforum names "filiam comitis Flandrie, reginam Anglie, Iuditam nomine" as wife of Welf[313]. Florence of Worcester says that Judith was "daughter of Baldwin Count of Flanders" but does not specify which Count Baldwin nor is this clear from the context[314]. According to the Vita Ædwardi Regis, she was the sister of Count Baudouin V[315]. Alberic de Trois Fontaines asserts that Judith was one of the children of Baudouin V Count of Flanders & his wife Adela de France[316], but there are other clear errors in his listing of this couple's children so the statement should be viewed with caution. Judith is also listed as the daughter of Count Baudouin V (after Mathilde) in a manuscript whose attribution to Orderic Vitalis is disputed, which also shows her first marriage[317]. The date of her first marriage is confirmed by the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle which records that "earl Godwine" fled after the Council of 9 Sep 1051 "with Tostig and his wife who was a kinswoman of Baldwin of Bruges"[318]. Judith moved to Denmark after her first husband was killed. "Dux Gewelfo eiusque…uxor Iudita" donated property to Kloster Weingarten, with the consent of "filiorum suorum Gwelfonis et Heinrici", dated 12 Mar 1094[319]. The Chronicon of Bernold records the death "1094 IV Non Mar" of "Iuditha uxor ducis Welfonis Baioariæ" and her burial "apud monasterium…Sancti Martini" built by her husband[320]. The necrology of Raitenbuch records the death "III Non Mar" of "Iudinta regina Anglie, filia marchionis de Este uxor Welfonis nostri fundatoris"[321], exaggerating her status resulting from her first marriage and confusing her paternity. The necrology of Weingarten records the death "III Non Mar" of "Judita dux regina Anglie"[322], also exaggerating her status resulting from her first marriage."
Med Lands cites:
[297] Annalista Saxo 1066.
[298] Annalista Saxo 1126.
[299] Jordan (1986), p. 4.
[300] D H IV 304, p. 400.
[301] Wirtembergisches Urkundenbuch, Band IV (Stuttgart, 1883) ("Württembergisches Urkundenbuch"), Anhang, Zwei Weingartner Codices, I, p. VIII.
[302] Fuhrmann (1995), p. 84.
[303] Jordan (1986), p. 6.
[304] RHC, Historiens occidentaux, Tome IV (Paris, 1879), Alberti Aquensis Historia Hierosolymitana ("Albert of Aix (RHC)"), Liber VIII, Caps. XXXIV and XXXV, p. 579.
[305] Albert of Aix (RHC), Liber VIII, Cap. XLIV, p. 583.
[306] RHC, Historiens occidentaux V (Paris, 1895), Ekkehardi Abbatis Uraugiensis Hierosolymita (“Ekkehard”) XXVI, p. 32.
[307] Necrologium Weingartense, Konstanz Necrologies, p. 221.
[308] Jordan (1986), p. 4.
[309] Annalista Saxo 1082.
[310] Haverkamp (1988), p. 110.
[311] Annales Stadenses 1105, MGH SS XVI, p. 318.
[312] Annalista Saxo 1066.
[313] Genealogia Welforum 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 734.
[314] Forester, T. (trans.) (1854) The Chronicles of Florence of Worcester with two continuations (London), 1051, p. 152.
[315] Barlow, F. (ed. and trans.) (1992) Vita Ædwardi Regis: The Life of King Edward who rests at Westminster (Oxford Medieval Texts), p. 38.
[316] Alberic de Trois Fontaines Chronica, MGH SS XXIII, p. 792.
[317] Chibnall, M. (ed. and trans.) The Ecclesiastical History of Orderic Vitalis, Vol. III, (Oxford Medieval Texts, 1969-80), Vol. IV, Appendix I, p. 350.
[318] Garmonsway, G. N. (trans) (1972) The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle (Dent), D, 1052 [1051].
[319] Württembergisches Urkundenbuch, Band IV, Anhang, Zwei Weingartner Codices, I, p. VIII.
[320] Bernoldi Chronicon 1094, MGH SS V, p. 457.
[321] Necrologium Raitenbuchense, Freising Necrologies, p. 105.
[322] Necrologium Weingartense, Konstanz Necrologies, p. 221.8
[298] Annalista Saxo 1126.
[299] Jordan (1986), p. 4.
[300] D H IV 304, p. 400.
[301] Wirtembergisches Urkundenbuch, Band IV (Stuttgart, 1883) ("Württembergisches Urkundenbuch"), Anhang, Zwei Weingartner Codices, I, p. VIII.
[302] Fuhrmann (1995), p. 84.
[303] Jordan (1986), p. 6.
[304] RHC, Historiens occidentaux, Tome IV (Paris, 1879), Alberti Aquensis Historia Hierosolymitana ("Albert of Aix (RHC)"), Liber VIII, Caps. XXXIV and XXXV, p. 579.
[305] Albert of Aix (RHC), Liber VIII, Cap. XLIV, p. 583.
[306] RHC, Historiens occidentaux V (Paris, 1895), Ekkehardi Abbatis Uraugiensis Hierosolymita (“Ekkehard”) XXVI, p. 32.
[307] Necrologium Weingartense, Konstanz Necrologies, p. 221.
[308] Jordan (1986), p. 4.
[309] Annalista Saxo 1082.
[310] Haverkamp (1988), p. 110.
[311] Annales Stadenses 1105, MGH SS XVI, p. 318.
[312] Annalista Saxo 1066.
[313] Genealogia Welforum 9, MGH SS XIII, p. 734.
[314] Forester, T. (trans.) (1854) The Chronicles of Florence of Worcester with two continuations (London), 1051, p. 152.
[315] Barlow, F. (ed. and trans.) (1992) Vita Ædwardi Regis: The Life of King Edward who rests at Westminster (Oxford Medieval Texts), p. 38.
[316] Alberic de Trois Fontaines Chronica, MGH SS XXIII, p. 792.
[317] Chibnall, M. (ed. and trans.) The Ecclesiastical History of Orderic Vitalis, Vol. III, (Oxford Medieval Texts, 1969-80), Vol. IV, Appendix I, p. 350.
[318] Garmonsway, G. N. (trans) (1972) The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle (Dent), D, 1052 [1051].
[319] Württembergisches Urkundenbuch, Band IV, Anhang, Zwei Weingartner Codices, I, p. VIII.
[320] Bernoldi Chronicon 1094, MGH SS V, p. 457.
[321] Necrologium Raitenbuchense, Freising Necrologies, p. 105.
[322] Necrologium Weingartense, Konstanz Necrologies, p. 221.8
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VIII 99.
2. Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: I 11.12
2. Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: I 11.12
; This is the same person as ”Ethelinde of Northeim” at Wikipedia and as ”Ethelinde von Northeim” at Wikipedia (DE).13,14
; Per Med Lands:
"ETHELINDE von Northeim . The Annalista Saxo names "Heinricum Crassum comitem…Sifridum de Boumeneburh et Cononem comitem de Bichlinge et tres filias, ex quibus unam nomine Ethilindam accept Welpho dux Bawarie et postquam eam repudiavit duxit eam Herimannus comes de Calverla" as children of Otto von Northeim & his wife[1536]. The Annales Stadenses refers to the four daughters of Otto, specifying that "tertia fuit uxor Hermanni de Calvela, que genuit Ottonem et Heinricum comites de Ravenesberch" without naming her[1537]. Her first husband repudiated her immediately after the disgrace of her father whom Heinrich IV King of Germany deprived of the dukedom of Bavaria[1538].
"m firstly (divorced 1070) WELF IV, son of ALBERTO AZZO II Marchese d'Este & his first wife Kunigunde von Altdorf [Este] ([1035/40]-Paphos Cyprus 9 Nov 1101, bur Cyprus, removed to Weingarten, near Lake Constance). He was installed in 1070 as WELF I Duke of Bavaria.
"m secondly [as his first wife,] HERMANN Graf von Calvelage, son of --- (-after 1144)."
Med Lands cites:
[1536] Annalista Saxo 1082.
[1537] Annales Stadenses 1105, MGH SS XVI, p. 318.
[1538] Haverkamp (1988), p. 110.3
[1537] Annales Stadenses 1105, MGH SS XVI, p. 318.
[1538] Haverkamp (1988), p. 110.3
; Per Med Lands:
"HERMANN von Calvelage, son of --- (-after 1144). "Willelmus comes de Luzzelenburch, Hermanus comes de Caluerlage, Reinoldus comes, Conradus comes, Arnoldus comes, Gerlagus comes, Imeko comes, Gerhardus comes de Heinnersberch, Hermannus comes de Salmena et filius eius, Friderikus comes de Sarebrugge…" witnessed the charter dated 27 Dec 1127 under which Lothar King of Germany granted property in Dreiech to "ministeriali Cuonrado de Hagen…[et] uxori suæ Liuckardi"[2254]. Lothar King of Germany donated property to Köln St Cunibert by charter dated 10 Feb 1129 witnessed by "…Comites: Gerhardus de Gellere, Arnoldus de Thonoburg, Gerhardus de Iulicho, Herimannus de Caluala, Henricus de Kessile, Adolphus de Berge, Adolphus de Saphinberg, Liberi: Gerhardus de Hostadin, Gerhardus de Heimesberg, Ludowicus de Quinheim, Gerhardus de Mulinarco, Gerhardus de Randirode…"[2255]. Lothar King of Germany confirmed property of Duisburg by charter dated 8 May 1129 witnessed by "…Comites: Gerhardus Longus de Gelere, Arnoldus de Cliue, Hermannus de Caluerlage, Hermannus de Salmene, Otto de Rinecke, Florentius de Hollande, Gerhardus de Hostad, Bernhardus de Hildenesheim, Godefridus et Hermannus de Cuch, Adolfus de Berge…"[2256]. Graf im Westmünsterland.
"m [firstly] (after 1070) as her second husband, ETHELINDE von Northeim, divorced wife of WELF [IV] I Duke of Bavaria, daughter of OTTO I Graf von Northeim Duke of Bavaria & his wife Richenza of Swabia [Ezzonen]. The Annalista Saxo names "Heinricum Crassum comitem…Sifridum de Boumeneburh et Cononem comitem de Bichlinge et tres filias, ex quibus unam nomine Ethilindam accept Welpho dux Bawarie et postquam eam repudiavit duxit eam Herimannus comes de Calverla" as children of Otto von Northeim & his wife[2257]. The Annales Stadenses refer to the four daughters of Otto, specifying that "tertia fuit uxor Hermanni de Calvela, que genuit Ottonem et Heinricum comites de Ravenesberch" without naming her[2258]. Her first husband repudiated her immediately after the disgrace of her father whom Heinrich IV King of Germany deprived of the dukedom of Bavaria[2259].
"m secondly ---. No record has been found of a second marriage of Hermann Graf von Calvelage. However, it looks highly probable. The chronology associated with Ethelinde von Northeim being the mother of the children of Graf Hermann is stretched. Ethelind[e must have been born in [1055/58] at the latest, assuming that she was as young as 12 at the time of her first marriage. The date of her second marriage is not known, but it would presumably not have taken place after she was aged 30/35 at the latest. This would place the births of any children by her second marriage during the 1080s, and certainly not later than [1095/1100]. If this is correct, the three children shown below would have been in their eighties or nineties when they died in 1170, 1185 and after 1166 respectively. Assuming that these death dates are accurate, it is more probable that they were born in the period [1100/1120]. This is also more consistent with the likely birth date of Hermann Graf von Ravensberg, son of Hermann's older son Otto [I].]"
Med Lands cites:
[2254] Simon, J. (1865) Die Geschichte des reichständischen Hauses Ysenburg und Büdingen, Band III Das Ysenburg und Büdingensche Urkundenbuch (Frankfurt) ("Isenburg Urkundenbuch"), III, p. 4.
[2255] Lacomblet, T. J. (ed.) (1840) Urkundenbuch für die Geschichte des Niederrheins, Band I (Düsseldorf) ("Niederrheins Urkundenbuch"), 304, p. 200.
[2256] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band I, 305, p. 200.
[2257] Annalista Saxo 1082.
[2258] Annales Stadenses 1105, MGH SS XVI, p. 318.
[2259] Haverkamp (1988), p. 110.11
[2255] Lacomblet, T. J. (ed.) (1840) Urkundenbuch für die Geschichte des Niederrheins, Band I (Düsseldorf) ("Niederrheins Urkundenbuch"), 304, p. 200.
[2256] Niederrheins Urkundenbuch, Band I, 305, p. 200.
[2257] Annalista Saxo 1082.
[2258] Annales Stadenses 1105, MGH SS XVI, p. 318.
[2259] Haverkamp (1988), p. 110.11
; Per Genealogy.EU: "D1. Hermann II, Gf im Westmünsterland ca 1030; m.Ethelinde von Northeim."10
Family 1 | Welf I/IV (?) Duke of Bavaria b. c 1036, d. 9 Nov 1101 |
Family 2 | Hermann II von Calvelage Graf von Calvelage, Gf im Westmünsterland d. a 1105 |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Welf 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/welf/welf2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ethelinde von Northeim: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00124983&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXON%20NOBILITY.htm#EthelindeNortheimM1WelfIV. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Otto I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00060574&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXON%20NOBILITY.htm#Ottodied1083
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Richenza: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00060575&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Welf IV: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020475&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAVARIA.htm#WelfIVBavariaIdied1101
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hermann: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00124982&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 1 page (The Luxemburg Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg1.html
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXON%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc509136511
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ethelinde von Northeim: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00124983&tree=LEO
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethelinde_of_Northeim. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S4759] Wikipedia - Die freie Enzyklopädie, online https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hauptseite, Ethelinde von Northeim: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethelinde_von_Northeim. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (DE).
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hedwig von Dale: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174892&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Heinrich: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00330352&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Otto I von Calvelage: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00124984&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXON%20NOBILITY.htm#OttoICalvelageRavensbergdied1170
Arnulf/Arnould) III (?) comte de Flandres et de Hainaut1,2
M, #60642, b. circa 1055, d. 22 February 1071
Father | Baudouin VI "de Mons" (?) Graaf van Vlaanderen, comte de Hainaut1,2,3,4 b. bt 1029 - 1030, d. 17 Jul 1070 |
Mother | Richilde (?) de Mons, comtesse de Hainaut1,5,2,4,6 b. c 1031, d. 15 Mar 1086 |
Last Edited | 11 Jun 2020 |
Arnulf/Arnould) III (?) comte de Flandres et de Hainaut was born circa 1055.1
Arnulf/Arnould) III (?) comte de Flandres et de Hainaut died on 22 February 1071 at Mont Cassel, Flanders, Belgium (now); killed by his Uncle Robert; Racines et Histoires says "(à sa mort, la Flandre passe à son oncle Robert et le Hainaut à son frère Baudouin.)1,2"
; Ct Arnulf III of Flanders and Hainault (1070-71), *ca 1055, +k.a.Cassel 22.2.1071; on his death Flanders was seized by his uncle Robert, and Arnulf's brother Baldwin was left with the lesser land of Hainault.1 He was 9th Count of Flanders and Count of Hainault between 1070 and 1071.1,2
Arnulf/Arnould) III (?) comte de Flandres et de Hainaut died on 22 February 1071 at Mont Cassel, Flanders, Belgium (now); killed by his Uncle Robert; Racines et Histoires says "(à sa mort, la Flandre passe à son oncle Robert et le Hainaut à son frère Baudouin.)1,2"
; Ct Arnulf III of Flanders and Hainault (1070-71), *ca 1055, +k.a.Cassel 22.2.1071; on his death Flanders was seized by his uncle Robert, and Arnulf's brother Baldwin was left with the lesser land of Hainault.1 He was 9th Count of Flanders and Count of Hainault between 1070 and 1071.1,2
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders1.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf, p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Baudouin VI-I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00018659&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLANDERS,%20HAINAUT.htm#BaudouinVIdied1070. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Richilde: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120771&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Richilde: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120771&tree=LEO
Philipp (?) van Loo1
M, #60643, d. circa 1127
Father | Robert II (?) Count of Flanders1 b. bt 1064 - 1065, d. 5 Oct 1111 |
Mother | Clemence/Clementia (?) de Bourgogne, Regent of Flanders1 b. 1078, d. c 1133 |
Last Edited | 16 Dec 2003 |
Philipp (?) van Loo died circa 1127.1
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders1.html
Maria di Conza-Salerno1
F, #60644, d. circa 1085
Father | Guido di Salerno Duke of Sorrento, Conte di Conza2 b. bt 1012 - 1013, d. b 1077 |
Mother | Raingarda (?)2 d. a 1056 |
Last Edited | 2 Aug 2020 |
Maria di Conza-Salerno married Guillaume de Hauteville Conte di Principato, son of Tancrede de Hauteville Duke of Apulia and Fresendis/Frasenda (?), after 1053.1,3,2
Maria di Conza-Salerno died circa 1085.2
; Per Med Lands:
"GUILLAUME de Hauteville "Sanicandro", son of TANCRED de Hauteville & his second wife Fressenda --- (-1080). Malaterra names "…tertius Willelmus…" third among the sons of Tancred & his second wife[704]. Amatus records that the brothers "Mauger, Geoffrey, William and Roger" arrived in Apulia from Normandy[705], dated from the context to [1054/57]. Conte di Principato. Malaterra records that "fratres suos…Malgerium…Willelmum" were made counts in "Capitanatæ…[et] in Principatu" respectively by their brother Count Onfroi, and that after the death of Mauger the county of the Capitanata passed to his brother Guillaume[706]. "Guilelmus comes…" was among the subscribers to a charter dated 1060 under which "Robertus dux Italie, Apulie et Calabrie atque Sicilie" donated "castrum Aquebelle" to the monastery of La Trinità at Cava[707]. Conte di San Nicandro. "Guglielmo comite fratre ducis" is recorded as present in a charter dated 1069 under which "duce Roberto dominante universe Apulie regioni atque Calabrie" donated property to Trinità di Venosa[708].
"m (after 1053[709]) [MARIA] di Conza-Salerno, daughter of GUIDO di Salerno Conte di Conza [Duca di Sorrento] & his wife --- (-after 1080). Amatus records the marriage of the daughter of Guido and Guillaume de Hauteville[710], in a later passage than the one recording the marriage of Guido´s daughter Guida to another Guillaume d’Hauteville. Europäische Stammtafeln[711] confuses the two brothers named Guillaume, sons of Tancred de Hauteville, giving the same wife to each, but Amatus is clearly referring to the two different half-brothers of the same name. According to Drell, Maria witnessed her husband's 1080 will[712]. She is named as witness of a donation by her son Robert to the abbey of Holy Trinity Venosa dated 1085[713]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"[MARIA] (-1085 or after). Amatus records the marriage of the daughter of Guido and Guillaume de Hauteville[1086], in a later passage than the one recording the marriage of Guido´s daughter Guida to another Guillaume d´Hauteville. Europäische Stammtafeln[1087] confuses the two brothers named Guillaume, sons of Tancred de Hauteville, giving the same wife to each, but Amatus is clearly referring to the two different half-brothers of the same name. According to Drell, Maria witnessed her husband's 1080 will[1088]. She is named as witness of a donation by her son Robert to the abbey of Holy Trinity Venosa dated 1085[1089].
"m ([1059]) GUILLAUME d'Hauteville "Sanicandro", son of TANCRED d'Hauteville & his second wife Fressenda --- (-1080)."
Med Lands cites:
Maria di Conza-Salerno died circa 1085.2
; Per Med Lands:
"GUILLAUME de Hauteville "Sanicandro", son of TANCRED de Hauteville & his second wife Fressenda --- (-1080). Malaterra names "…tertius Willelmus…" third among the sons of Tancred & his second wife[704]. Amatus records that the brothers "Mauger, Geoffrey, William and Roger" arrived in Apulia from Normandy[705], dated from the context to [1054/57]. Conte di Principato. Malaterra records that "fratres suos…Malgerium…Willelmum" were made counts in "Capitanatæ…[et] in Principatu" respectively by their brother Count Onfroi, and that after the death of Mauger the county of the Capitanata passed to his brother Guillaume[706]. "Guilelmus comes…" was among the subscribers to a charter dated 1060 under which "Robertus dux Italie, Apulie et Calabrie atque Sicilie" donated "castrum Aquebelle" to the monastery of La Trinità at Cava[707]. Conte di San Nicandro. "Guglielmo comite fratre ducis" is recorded as present in a charter dated 1069 under which "duce Roberto dominante universe Apulie regioni atque Calabrie" donated property to Trinità di Venosa[708].
"m (after 1053[709]) [MARIA] di Conza-Salerno, daughter of GUIDO di Salerno Conte di Conza [Duca di Sorrento] & his wife --- (-after 1080). Amatus records the marriage of the daughter of Guido and Guillaume de Hauteville[710], in a later passage than the one recording the marriage of Guido´s daughter Guida to another Guillaume d’Hauteville. Europäische Stammtafeln[711] confuses the two brothers named Guillaume, sons of Tancred de Hauteville, giving the same wife to each, but Amatus is clearly referring to the two different half-brothers of the same name. According to Drell, Maria witnessed her husband's 1080 will[712]. She is named as witness of a donation by her son Robert to the abbey of Holy Trinity Venosa dated 1085[713]."
Med Lands cites:
[704] Malaterra, I.4, p. 9.
[705] Amatus III.43, p. 101.
[706] Malaterra, I.15, p. 16.
[707] Actes des Ducs Normands d'Italie I, 9, p. 35.
[708] Actes des Ducs Normands d'Italie I, 20, p. 89.
[709] The marriage must have taken place after Guillaume's arrival in Italy.
[710] Amatus IV.22, p. 118.
[711] ES II 204 and 205.
[712] Drell, J. H. (2002) Kinship & Conquest, Family strategies in the Principality of Salerno during the Norman period 1077-1194 (Cornell University Press), pp. 34 and 179.
[713] Houben, H. (1995) Die Abtei Venosa und das Mönchtum im normannisch-staufischen Süditalien (Tübingen), cited in Amatus, p. 118 footnote 32.3
[705] Amatus III.43, p. 101.
[706] Malaterra, I.15, p. 16.
[707] Actes des Ducs Normands d'Italie I, 9, p. 35.
[708] Actes des Ducs Normands d'Italie I, 20, p. 89.
[709] The marriage must have taken place after Guillaume's arrival in Italy.
[710] Amatus IV.22, p. 118.
[711] ES II 204 and 205.
[712] Drell, J. H. (2002) Kinship & Conquest, Family strategies in the Principality of Salerno during the Norman period 1077-1194 (Cornell University Press), pp. 34 and 179.
[713] Houben, H. (1995) Die Abtei Venosa und das Mönchtum im normannisch-staufischen Süditalien (Tübingen), cited in Amatus, p. 118 footnote 32.3
; Per Med Lands:
"[MARIA] (-1085 or after). Amatus records the marriage of the daughter of Guido and Guillaume de Hauteville[1086], in a later passage than the one recording the marriage of Guido´s daughter Guida to another Guillaume d´Hauteville. Europäische Stammtafeln[1087] confuses the two brothers named Guillaume, sons of Tancred de Hauteville, giving the same wife to each, but Amatus is clearly referring to the two different half-brothers of the same name. According to Drell, Maria witnessed her husband's 1080 will[1088]. She is named as witness of a donation by her son Robert to the abbey of Holy Trinity Venosa dated 1085[1089].
"m ([1059]) GUILLAUME d'Hauteville "Sanicandro", son of TANCRED d'Hauteville & his second wife Fressenda --- (-1080)."
Med Lands cites:
[1086] Amatus IV.22, p. 118.
[1087] ES II 204 and 205.
[1088] Drell (2002), pp. 34 and 179.
[1089] Houben, H. (1995) Die Abtei Venosa und das Mönchtum im normannisch-staufischen Süditalien (Tübingen), cited in Amatus, p. 118 footnote 32.1
[1087] ES II 204 and 205.
[1088] Drell (2002), pp. 34 and 179.
[1089] Houben, H. (1995) Die Abtei Venosa und das Mönchtum im normannisch-staufischen Süditalien (Tübingen), cited in Amatus, p. 118 footnote 32.1
Family | Guillaume de Hauteville Conte di Principato b. 1025, d. 1080 |
Children |
Citations
- [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, The Rupenides, Hethumides and Lusignans: The Structure of the Armeno-Cilician Dynasties (11, Rude de Lille, Paris 7e, France: Librairie C. Klincksieck for the Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation Armenian Library (Lisbon), 1963), Chart VI (A): The House of the Princes of Antiochia. Hereinafter cited as Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SOUTHERN%20ITALY,%20PRE-NORMAN.htm#MariaSalernoMGuillaumeHauteville. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NEAPOLITAN%20NOBILITY.htm#Guillaumedied1080
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NEAPOLITAN%20NOBILITY.htm#dauGuillaumePrincipatuBetDominicoSilvio
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Antioche.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
Ogive (Marie, Otgiva) (?) of Flanders, Abbess of Messines1,2,3
F, #60645, b. before 1071
Father | Robert I "le Frison" (?) Count of Flanders, Count of Holland1,2,4,5,6 b. 1031, d. 13 Oct 1093 |
Mother | Gertrude (?) von Sachsen1,2,7,8,6 b. c 1028, d. 4 Aug 1113 |
Last Edited | 31 Jul 2020 |
Ogive (Marie, Otgiva) (?) of Flanders, Abbess of Messines was born before 1071.3
; Leo van de Pas cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: II 9.2 She was living in 1127.1
; Leo van de Pas cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: II 9.2 She was living in 1127.1
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders1.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Otgiva of Flanders: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00105968&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf, p. 7. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert I 'the Friesian': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00018660&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Flandre(s) Vlaanderen, p. 7: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLANDERS,%20HAINAUT.htm#RobertIdied1093B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Flandre(s) Vlaanderen, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gertrud von Sachsen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00018661&tree=LEO
Louis (?) Count of Hainaut1,2
M, #60646
Father | Baudouin II (?) Graaf van Henegouwen, Valenciennes, Ostrevant et Douai1,3,4 b. c 1056, d. a 8 Jun 1098 |
Mother | Ida (?) de Louvain1,5,4 b. b 1077, d. 1139 |
Last Edited | 12 Jun 2020 |
Louis (?) Count of Hainaut was living in 1096.1
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders2.html
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#ArnouldHainautRoeulxB. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Baudouin II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00050002&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#BaudouinIIHainautdied1098B
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ida de Louvain: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00050003&tree=LEO
Simon de Hainaut1,2
M, #60647
Father | Baudouin II (?) Graaf van Henegouwen, Valenciennes, Ostrevant et Douai1,3 b. c 1056, d. a 8 Jun 1098 |
Mother | Ida (?) de Louvain1,4,5 b. b 1077, d. 1139 |
Last Edited | 12 Jun 2020 |
; a canon in Liege.1
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders2.html
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#ArnouldHainautRoeulxB. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Baudouin II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00050002&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ida de Louvain: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00050003&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#BaudouinIIHainautdied1098B
Henri de Hainaut1,2
M, #60648
Father | Baudouin II (?) Graaf van Henegouwen, Valenciennes, Ostrevant et Douai1,3,4 b. c 1056, d. a 8 Jun 1098 |
Mother | Ida (?) de Louvain1,5,4 b. b 1077, d. 1139 |
Last Edited | 12 Jun 2020 |
Henri de Hainaut was living in 1096.1
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders2.html
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#ArnouldHainautRoeulxB. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Baudouin II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00050002&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#BaudouinIIHainautdied1098B
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ida de Louvain: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00050003&tree=LEO
Willem van Henegouwen1
M, #60649, d. after 1117
Father | Baudouin II (?) Graaf van Henegouwen, Valenciennes, Ostrevant et Douai1,2,3 b. c 1056, d. a 8 Jun 1098 |
Mother | Ida (?) de Louvain1,4,3 b. b 1077, d. 1139 |
Last Edited | 12 Jun 2020 |
Willem van Henegouwen died after 1117.1
Willem van Henegouwen was also known as Guillaume de Hainaut.5
Willem van Henegouwen was also known as Guillaume de Hainaut.5
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Baudouin II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00050002&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#BaudouinIIHainautdied1098B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ida de Louvain: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00050003&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#ArnouldHainautRoeulxB
Arnoul de Hainaut1,2,3
M, #60650, b. 1090, d. after 1117
Father | Baudouin II (?) Graaf van Henegouwen, Valenciennes, Ostrevant et Douai1,4,5,3,6 b. c 1056, d. a 8 Jun 1098 |
Mother | Ida (?) de Louvain1,7,5,3,6 b. b 1077, d. 1139 |
Reference | EDV28 |
Last Edited | 16 Jun 2020 |
Arnoul de Hainaut was born in 1090.3 He married Beatrix (?) van Ath, daughter of Gauthier d'Ath Seigneur d'Ath and Ada de Roucy-Ramerupt, circa 1115.1,8,9,3,6
Arnoul de Hainaut died after 1117.3
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"ARNOUL de Hainaut, son of BAUDOUIN II Comte de Hainaut & his wife Ida de Louvain ([1090]-after 1117). The Chronicon Lætiense names "Arnulpho, fratri comitis de Hainau Balduini" and his wife "Beatricem filiam [Waltero de Aat] et Ade [filiam] Eustacii del Rues"[282]. The Chronicon Hanoniense names "primogenitus Balduinus…secundus Arnulphus" as sons of "Balduino comiti Hanoniensi"[283]. Otbert Bishop of Liège declared having bought "castellum de Covino" from "comite Balduino de Mont", in the presence of "uxore ipsius Ida, cum filiis suis Baldewino, Arnulpho, Lodewico, Heinrico", by charter dated 14 Jun 1096[284]. A charter dated 1117 records the donation by "comite Balduino", with the consent of "uxore sua Iola et filio suo Balduino…prefati comites fratres Ernulfus et Willelmus", of "allodium de Oberceiis" to the abbey of Saint-Denis en Broqueroie[285].
"m BEATRIX de Ath, daughter of WALTER de Ath & his wife Ada de Ramerupt. The Chronicon Lætiense names "Arnulpho, fratri comitis de Hainau Balduini" and his wife "Beatricem filiam [Waltero de Aat] et Ade [filiam] Eustacii del Rues"[286]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis refers to "Guidonem [de Guisia] qui habuit sororem" whose husband was "Arnulfo, fratre Balduini comitis Hainonensis"[287], Guy de Guise being the son of Ada de Ramerupt by her first husband Geoffroy Seigneur de Guise while Beatrix was her daughter by her second husband. "
Med Lands cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire (hainaut): “Arnoul de Hainaut + après 1117 seigneur de Roeux
ép. Béatrix van Ath °~1075 + avant 1136 (fille de Wantier van Ath, seigneur de Roeux, et d’Ade de Roucy)”.10
; Per Genealogy.EU (Flanders 2): “A6. Arnould; m.Beatrix von Ath (*ca 1075 +before 1136), dau.of Walter von Ath by Ade de Roucy”.11
; Per Med Lands:
"BEATRIX d’Ath . The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis refers to "Guidonem [de Guisia] qui habuit sororem" whose husband was "Arnulfo, fratre Balduini comitis Hainonensis"[555]. The Chronicon Lætiense names "Arnulpho, fratri comitis de Hainau Balduini" and his wife "Beatricem filiam [Waltero de Aat] et Ade [filiam] Eustacii del Rues"[556].
"m ARNOUL de Hainaut, son of BAUDOUIN II Comte de Hainaut & his wife Ida de Louvain (-after 1117)."
Med Lands cites:
Arnoul de Hainaut died after 1117.3
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VIII 45b.
2. Afstammingseeksen van de Hertogen van Brabant, Woerden, 2006, Hamers, Vic; Rob Dix, Zeno Deurvorst. page 201.6
EDV-28. 2. Afstammingseeksen van de Hertogen van Brabant, Woerden, 2006, Hamers, Vic; Rob Dix, Zeno Deurvorst. page 201.6
; Per Med Lands:
"ARNOUL de Hainaut, son of BAUDOUIN II Comte de Hainaut & his wife Ida de Louvain ([1090]-after 1117). The Chronicon Lætiense names "Arnulpho, fratri comitis de Hainau Balduini" and his wife "Beatricem filiam [Waltero de Aat] et Ade [filiam] Eustacii del Rues"[282]. The Chronicon Hanoniense names "primogenitus Balduinus…secundus Arnulphus" as sons of "Balduino comiti Hanoniensi"[283]. Otbert Bishop of Liège declared having bought "castellum de Covino" from "comite Balduino de Mont", in the presence of "uxore ipsius Ida, cum filiis suis Baldewino, Arnulpho, Lodewico, Heinrico", by charter dated 14 Jun 1096[284]. A charter dated 1117 records the donation by "comite Balduino", with the consent of "uxore sua Iola et filio suo Balduino…prefati comites fratres Ernulfus et Willelmus", of "allodium de Oberceiis" to the abbey of Saint-Denis en Broqueroie[285].
"m BEATRIX de Ath, daughter of WALTER de Ath & his wife Ada de Ramerupt. The Chronicon Lætiense names "Arnulpho, fratri comitis de Hainau Balduini" and his wife "Beatricem filiam [Waltero de Aat] et Ade [filiam] Eustacii del Rues"[286]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis refers to "Guidonem [de Guisia] qui habuit sororem" whose husband was "Arnulfo, fratre Balduini comitis Hainonensis"[287], Guy de Guise being the son of Ada de Ramerupt by her first husband Geoffroy Seigneur de Guise while Beatrix was her daughter by her second husband. "
Med Lands cites:
[283] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 505.
[284] Couvin, 1, p. 2.
[285] Duvivier (1903), 9, p. 24.
[286] Chronicon Lætiense 4, MGH SS XIV, p. 494.
[287] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 17, MGH SS XIII, p. 255.3
[284] Couvin, 1, p. 2.
[285] Duvivier (1903), 9, p. 24.
[286] Chronicon Lætiense 4, MGH SS XIV, p. 494.
[287] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 17, MGH SS XIII, p. 255.3
; Per Racines et Histoire (hainaut): “Arnoul de Hainaut + après 1117 seigneur de Roeux
ép. Béatrix van Ath °~1075 + avant 1136 (fille de Wantier van Ath, seigneur de Roeux, et d’Ade de Roucy)”.10
; Per Genealogy.EU (Flanders 2): “A6. Arnould; m.Beatrix von Ath (*ca 1075 +before 1136), dau.of Walter von Ath by Ade de Roucy”.11
; Per Med Lands:
"BEATRIX d’Ath . The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis refers to "Guidonem [de Guisia] qui habuit sororem" whose husband was "Arnulfo, fratre Balduini comitis Hainonensis"[555]. The Chronicon Lætiense names "Arnulpho, fratri comitis de Hainau Balduini" and his wife "Beatricem filiam [Waltero de Aat] et Ade [filiam] Eustacii del Rues"[556].
"m ARNOUL de Hainaut, son of BAUDOUIN II Comte de Hainaut & his wife Ida de Louvain (-after 1117)."
Med Lands cites:
[555] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 17, MGH SS XIII, p. 255.
[556] Chronicon Lætiense 4, MGH SS XIV, p. 494.9
[556] Chronicon Lætiense 4, MGH SS XIV, p. 494.9
Family | Beatrix (?) van Ath b. c 1075, d. b 1138 |
Child |
|
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Arnold de Hainault: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174876&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#ArnouldHainautRoeulxB. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Baudouin II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00050002&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#BaudouinIIHainautdied1098B
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Arnould de Hainault: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174876&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ida de Louvain: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00050003&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrix van Ath: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174877&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#BeatrixAthMArnoulHainaut
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Hainaut Hennegau, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Hainaut.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eustache de Hainault: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174880&tree=LEO
Beatrix (?) van Ath1,2
F, #60651, b. circa 1075, d. before 1138
Father | Gauthier d'Ath Seigneur d'Ath1,3,4,5 |
Mother | Ada de Roucy-Ramerupt1,3,4 d. a 1121 |
Last Edited | 8 Dec 2020 |
Beatrix (?) van Ath was born circa 1075.1 She married Arnoul de Hainaut, son of Baudouin II (?) Graaf van Henegouwen, Valenciennes, Ostrevant et Douai and Ida (?) de Louvain, circa 1115.1,3,4,6,7
Beatrix (?) van Ath died before 1138.1
; Per Med Lands:
"ARNOUL de Hainaut, son of BAUDOUIN II Comte de Hainaut & his wife Ida de Louvain ([1090]-after 1117). The Chronicon Lætiense names "Arnulpho, fratri comitis de Hainau Balduini" and his wife "Beatricem filiam [Waltero de Aat] et Ade [filiam] Eustacii del Rues"[282]. The Chronicon Hanoniense names "primogenitus Balduinus…secundus Arnulphus" as sons of "Balduino comiti Hanoniensi"[283]. Otbert Bishop of Liège declared having bought "castellum de Covino" from "comite Balduino de Mont", in the presence of "uxore ipsius Ida, cum filiis suis Baldewino, Arnulpho, Lodewico, Heinrico", by charter dated 14 Jun 1096[284]. A charter dated 1117 records the donation by "comite Balduino", with the consent of "uxore sua Iola et filio suo Balduino…prefati comites fratres Ernulfus et Willelmus", of "allodium de Oberceiis" to the abbey of Saint-Denis en Broqueroie[285].
"m BEATRIX de Ath, daughter of WALTER de Ath & his wife Ada de Ramerupt. The Chronicon Lætiense names "Arnulpho, fratri comitis de Hainau Balduini" and his wife "Beatricem filiam [Waltero de Aat] et Ade [filiam] Eustacii del Rues"[286]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis refers to "Guidonem [de Guisia] qui habuit sororem" whose husband was "Arnulfo, fratre Balduini comitis Hainonensis"[287], Guy de Guise being the son of Ada de Ramerupt by her first husband Geoffroy Seigneur de Guise while Beatrix was her daughter by her second husband. "
Med Lands cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire (hainaut): “Arnoul de Hainaut + après 1117 seigneur de Roeux
ép. Béatrix van Ath °~1075 + avant 1136 (fille de Wantier van Ath, seigneur de Roeux, et d’Ade de Roucy)”.8
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"BEATRIX d’Ath . The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis refers to "Guidonem [de Guisia] qui habuit sororem" whose husband was "Arnulfo, fratre Balduini comitis Hainonensis"[555]. The Chronicon Lætiense names "Arnulpho, fratri comitis de Hainau Balduini" and his wife "Beatricem filiam [Waltero de Aat] et Ade [filiam] Eustacii del Rues"[556].
"m ARNOUL de Hainaut, son of BAUDOUIN II Comte de Hainaut & his wife Ida de Louvain (-after 1117)."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (Flanders 2): “A6. Arnould; m.Beatrix von Ath (*ca 1075 +before 1136), dau.of Walter von Ath by Ade de Roucy”.9
; Per Med Lands (Ref. #1):
"GAUTHIER de Chimay (-after 1065). “…Walteri de Cimai…” subscribed the charter dated 1065 under which Philippe I King of France confirmed the foundation of Hasnon abbey by “Iohannes vir illustris et Eulalia soror eius”[1653]. Defossez suggests that Gauthier de Chimay (died “before 1082”) was the same person as Gauthier d’Ath, that his son Alard (“1088”, died “before 1090”, born to an unidentified first wife) was the father of the siblings Alard [II] and Béatrix who are named below (by his wife “Havilde”), and that Béatrix d’Ath (wife of Arnoul de Hainaut, see the Ath chapter in the present document) was Gauthier’s daughter by his “second” wife Alix de Ramerupt[1654]. The primary sources which confirm the dates quoted by Defossez, and the name of Alard’s wife, have not been identified. "
Med Lands cites:
Beatrix (?) van Ath died before 1138.1
; Per Med Lands:
"ARNOUL de Hainaut, son of BAUDOUIN II Comte de Hainaut & his wife Ida de Louvain ([1090]-after 1117). The Chronicon Lætiense names "Arnulpho, fratri comitis de Hainau Balduini" and his wife "Beatricem filiam [Waltero de Aat] et Ade [filiam] Eustacii del Rues"[282]. The Chronicon Hanoniense names "primogenitus Balduinus…secundus Arnulphus" as sons of "Balduino comiti Hanoniensi"[283]. Otbert Bishop of Liège declared having bought "castellum de Covino" from "comite Balduino de Mont", in the presence of "uxore ipsius Ida, cum filiis suis Baldewino, Arnulpho, Lodewico, Heinrico", by charter dated 14 Jun 1096[284]. A charter dated 1117 records the donation by "comite Balduino", with the consent of "uxore sua Iola et filio suo Balduino…prefati comites fratres Ernulfus et Willelmus", of "allodium de Oberceiis" to the abbey of Saint-Denis en Broqueroie[285].
"m BEATRIX de Ath, daughter of WALTER de Ath & his wife Ada de Ramerupt. The Chronicon Lætiense names "Arnulpho, fratri comitis de Hainau Balduini" and his wife "Beatricem filiam [Waltero de Aat] et Ade [filiam] Eustacii del Rues"[286]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis refers to "Guidonem [de Guisia] qui habuit sororem" whose husband was "Arnulfo, fratre Balduini comitis Hainonensis"[287], Guy de Guise being the son of Ada de Ramerupt by her first husband Geoffroy Seigneur de Guise while Beatrix was her daughter by her second husband. "
Med Lands cites:
[283] Gisleberti Chronicon Hanoniense, MGH SS XXI, p. 505.
[284] Couvin, 1, p. 2.
[285] Duvivier (1903), 9, p. 24.
[286] Chronicon Lætiense 4, MGH SS XIV, p. 494.
[287] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 17, MGH SS XIII, p. 255.6
[284] Couvin, 1, p. 2.
[285] Duvivier (1903), 9, p. 24.
[286] Chronicon Lætiense 4, MGH SS XIV, p. 494.
[287] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 17, MGH SS XIII, p. 255.6
; Per Racines et Histoire (hainaut): “Arnoul de Hainaut + après 1117 seigneur de Roeux
ép. Béatrix van Ath °~1075 + avant 1136 (fille de Wantier van Ath, seigneur de Roeux, et d’Ade de Roucy)”.8
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VIII 45b.
2. Afstammingseeksen van de Hertogen van Brabant, Woerden, 2006, Hamers, Vic; Rob Dix, Zeno Deurvorst. 201.2
2. Afstammingseeksen van de Hertogen van Brabant, Woerden, 2006, Hamers, Vic; Rob Dix, Zeno Deurvorst. 201.2
; Per Med Lands:
"BEATRIX d’Ath . The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis refers to "Guidonem [de Guisia] qui habuit sororem" whose husband was "Arnulfo, fratre Balduini comitis Hainonensis"[555]. The Chronicon Lætiense names "Arnulpho, fratri comitis de Hainau Balduini" and his wife "Beatricem filiam [Waltero de Aat] et Ade [filiam] Eustacii del Rues"[556].
"m ARNOUL de Hainaut, son of BAUDOUIN II Comte de Hainaut & his wife Ida de Louvain (-after 1117)."
Med Lands cites:
[555] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 17, MGH SS XIII, p. 255.
[556] Chronicon Lætiense 4, MGH SS XIV, p. 494.4
[556] Chronicon Lætiense 4, MGH SS XIV, p. 494.4
; Per Genealogy.EU (Flanders 2): “A6. Arnould; m.Beatrix von Ath (*ca 1075 +before 1136), dau.of Walter von Ath by Ade de Roucy”.9
; Per Med Lands (Ref. #1):
"GAUTHIER de Chimay (-after 1065). “…Walteri de Cimai…” subscribed the charter dated 1065 under which Philippe I King of France confirmed the foundation of Hasnon abbey by “Iohannes vir illustris et Eulalia soror eius”[1653]. Defossez suggests that Gauthier de Chimay (died “before 1082”) was the same person as Gauthier d’Ath, that his son Alard (“1088”, died “before 1090”, born to an unidentified first wife) was the father of the siblings Alard [II] and Béatrix who are named below (by his wife “Havilde”), and that Béatrix d’Ath (wife of Arnoul de Hainaut, see the Ath chapter in the present document) was Gauthier’s daughter by his “second” wife Alix de Ramerupt[1654]. The primary sources which confirm the dates quoted by Defossez, and the name of Alard’s wife, have not been identified. "
Med Lands cites:
[1653] Le Carpentier (1664), Part IV, Preuves, p. 8.
[1654] Defossez, M. ‘Essai sur les origines des maisons d’Avesnes et de Chimay au Xie siècle’, Mémoires de la Société Archéologique et Historique de l’arrondissement d’Avesnes (Nord), Tome XXXVI (2002), pp. 158-62 (information provided by Thierry d’Orjo by email 19 Feb 2019.)10
[1654] Defossez, M. ‘Essai sur les origines des maisons d’Avesnes et de Chimay au Xie siècle’, Mémoires de la Société Archéologique et Historique de l’arrondissement d’Avesnes (Nord), Tome XXXVI (2002), pp. 158-62 (information provided by Thierry d’Orjo by email 19 Feb 2019.)10
Family | Arnoul de Hainaut b. 1090, d. a 1117 |
Child |
|
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrix van Ath: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174877&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrix van Ath: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174877&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#BeatrixAthMArnoulHainaut. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Walter van Ath: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174878&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#ArnouldHainautRoeulxB
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Arnould de Hainault: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174876&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Hainaut Hennegau, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Hainaut.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders2.html
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, Reference #1: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#GauthierChimaydiedafter1065
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eustache de Hainault: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174880&tree=LEO
Gauthier d'Ath Seigneur d'Ath1
M, #60652
Reference | GAV25 |
Last Edited | 28 Sep 2020 |
Gauthier d'Ath Seigneur d'Ath married Ada de Roucy-Ramerupt, daughter of Hildouin IV de Montdidier comte de Montdidier, seigneur de Ramerupt, d’Arcis et de Breteuil, comte de Roucy and Adele (Adelix) de Roucy,
;
Her 2nd husband.2,1,3,4,5,6
GAV-25.
Reference: Geneal;ogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 8:45b.7 Gauthier d'Ath Seigneur d'Ath was also known as Walter van Ath.2,7 Gauthier d'Ath Seigneur d'Ath was also known as Gautier de Chimay.8
; Per Med Lands (Ref. #2):
"GAUTHIER d’Ath, son of ---. Seigneur d’Ath. Defossez suggests that Gauthier d’Ath was the same person as Gauthier de Chimay (died “before 1082”), that his son Alard de Chimay (“1088”, died “before 1090”) was born to an unidentified first wife, and that Béatrix d’Ath (wife of Arnoul de Hainaut, see below) was his daughter by his “second” wife Alix de Ramerupt[552].
"m as her second husband, ADA de Ramerupt, widow of GEOFFROY Seigneur de Guise, daughter of HILDUIN [IV] de Montdidier et de Ramerupt Comte de Roucy & his wife Adelaide de Roucy (-bur Abbaye de Liessies). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Ada…de Guisia" as sixth daughter of Hilduin Comte de Roucy[553]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "quartam…Hilduini comitis filiam Adam" as wife firstly of "Godefridus de Guisia" and secondly of "Galterum de Aat et genuit filias; quarum una tradita est Gerardo de Audenarde, que peperit Arnulfum et Godefridum atque Heinricum et ceteros." and thirdly of "Theoderico de Avesnis"[554]. She married thirdly Thierry Seigneur d'Avesnes."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands (Ref. #1):
"GAUTHIER de Chimay (-after 1065). “…Walteri de Cimai…” subscribed the charter dated 1065 under which Philippe I King of France confirmed the foundation of Hasnon abbey by “Iohannes vir illustris et Eulalia soror eius”[1653]. Defossez suggests that Gauthier de Chimay (died “before 1082”) was the same person as Gauthier d’Ath, that his son Alard (“1088”, died “before 1090”, born to an unidentified first wife) was the father of the siblings Alard [II] and Béatrix who are named below (by his wife “Havilde”), and that Béatrix d’Ath (wife of Arnoul de Hainaut, see the Ath chapter in the present document) was Gauthier’s daughter by his “second” wife Alix de Ramerupt[1654]. The primary sources which confirm the dates quoted by Defossez, and the name of Alard’s wife, have not been identified. "
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"ADA de Ramerupt (-after 1121, bur Abbaye de Liessies). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "quartam…Hilduini comitis filiam Adam" as wife firstly of "Godefridus de Guisia" and secondly of "Galterum de Aat" and thirdly of "Theoderico de Avesnis"[664]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Ada…de Guisia" as sixth daughter of Hilduin Comte de Roucy[665]. "Wido Lescheriensis…et Guisiensis" granted rights to the abbey of Saint-André du Câteau, for the souls of "meæ et coniugis meæ Adeluyæ", by undated charter, signed by "filiorum meorum Adam et Burgardi…" and later confirmed by the bishop of Laon by charter dated 1121 at the request of "Guido de Gusia rogatu uxoris suæ Adeluyæ et matris suæ Adæ" and with the consent of "filiis suis Adam et Burchardo"[666]. She built the convent of Lessies with her third husband, where she retired after his death and was buried[667].
"m firstly GEOFFROY Seigneur de Guise, son of ---.
"m secondly GAUTHIER Seigneur d’Ath, son of ---.
"m thirdly THIERRY Seigneur d'Avesnes, son of WEDRICUS "Ad-barbam" d'Avesnes & his wife --- (-[1106])."
Med Lands cites:
;
Her 2nd husband.2,1,3,4,5,6
GAV-25.
Reference: Geneal;ogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 8:45b.7 Gauthier d'Ath Seigneur d'Ath was also known as Walter van Ath.2,7 Gauthier d'Ath Seigneur d'Ath was also known as Gautier de Chimay.8
; Per Med Lands (Ref. #2):
"GAUTHIER d’Ath, son of ---. Seigneur d’Ath. Defossez suggests that Gauthier d’Ath was the same person as Gauthier de Chimay (died “before 1082”), that his son Alard de Chimay (“1088”, died “before 1090”) was born to an unidentified first wife, and that Béatrix d’Ath (wife of Arnoul de Hainaut, see below) was his daughter by his “second” wife Alix de Ramerupt[552].
"m as her second husband, ADA de Ramerupt, widow of GEOFFROY Seigneur de Guise, daughter of HILDUIN [IV] de Montdidier et de Ramerupt Comte de Roucy & his wife Adelaide de Roucy (-bur Abbaye de Liessies). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Ada…de Guisia" as sixth daughter of Hilduin Comte de Roucy[553]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "quartam…Hilduini comitis filiam Adam" as wife firstly of "Godefridus de Guisia" and secondly of "Galterum de Aat et genuit filias; quarum una tradita est Gerardo de Audenarde, que peperit Arnulfum et Godefridum atque Heinricum et ceteros." and thirdly of "Theoderico de Avesnis"[554]. She married thirdly Thierry Seigneur d'Avesnes."
Med Lands cites:
[552] Defossez, M. ‘Essai sur les origines des maisons d’Avesnes et de Chimay au Xie siècle’, Mémoires de la Société Archéologique et Historique de l’arrondissement d’Avesnes (Nord), Tome XXXVI (2002), pp. 158-62 (information provided by Thierry d’Orjo by email 19 Feb 2019)
[553] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1063, MGH SS XXIII, p. 794.
[554] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 17, MGH SS XIII, p. 255.9
[553] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1063, MGH SS XXIII, p. 794.
[554] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 17, MGH SS XIII, p. 255.9
; Per Med Lands (Ref. #1):
"GAUTHIER de Chimay (-after 1065). “…Walteri de Cimai…” subscribed the charter dated 1065 under which Philippe I King of France confirmed the foundation of Hasnon abbey by “Iohannes vir illustris et Eulalia soror eius”[1653]. Defossez suggests that Gauthier de Chimay (died “before 1082”) was the same person as Gauthier d’Ath, that his son Alard (“1088”, died “before 1090”, born to an unidentified first wife) was the father of the siblings Alard [II] and Béatrix who are named below (by his wife “Havilde”), and that Béatrix d’Ath (wife of Arnoul de Hainaut, see the Ath chapter in the present document) was Gauthier’s daughter by his “second” wife Alix de Ramerupt[1654]. The primary sources which confirm the dates quoted by Defossez, and the name of Alard’s wife, have not been identified. "
Med Lands cites:
[1653] Le Carpentier (1664), Part IV, Preuves, p. 8.
[1654] Defossez, M. ‘Essai sur les origines des maisons d’Avesnes et de Chimay au Xie siècle’, Mémoires de la Société Archéologique et Historique de l’arrondissement d’Avesnes (Nord), Tome XXXVI (2002), pp. 158-62 (information provided by Thierry d’Orjo by email 19 Feb 2019.)10
[1654] Defossez, M. ‘Essai sur les origines des maisons d’Avesnes et de Chimay au Xie siècle’, Mémoires de la Société Archéologique et Historique de l’arrondissement d’Avesnes (Nord), Tome XXXVI (2002), pp. 158-62 (information provided by Thierry d’Orjo by email 19 Feb 2019.)10
; Per Med Lands:
"ADA de Ramerupt (-after 1121, bur Abbaye de Liessies). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "quartam…Hilduini comitis filiam Adam" as wife firstly of "Godefridus de Guisia" and secondly of "Galterum de Aat" and thirdly of "Theoderico de Avesnis"[664]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Ada…de Guisia" as sixth daughter of Hilduin Comte de Roucy[665]. "Wido Lescheriensis…et Guisiensis" granted rights to the abbey of Saint-André du Câteau, for the souls of "meæ et coniugis meæ Adeluyæ", by undated charter, signed by "filiorum meorum Adam et Burgardi…" and later confirmed by the bishop of Laon by charter dated 1121 at the request of "Guido de Gusia rogatu uxoris suæ Adeluyæ et matris suæ Adæ" and with the consent of "filiis suis Adam et Burchardo"[666]. She built the convent of Lessies with her third husband, where she retired after his death and was buried[667].
"m firstly GEOFFROY Seigneur de Guise, son of ---.
"m secondly GAUTHIER Seigneur d’Ath, son of ---.
"m thirdly THIERRY Seigneur d'Avesnes, son of WEDRICUS "Ad-barbam" d'Avesnes & his wife --- (-[1106])."
Med Lands cites:
[664] Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis 17, MGH SS XIII, p. 255.
[665] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1063, MGH SS XXIII, p. 794.
[666] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 52.
[667] Pécheur (1851), p. 57.6
[665] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1063, MGH SS XXIII, p. 794.
[666] Duchesne (1624), Preuves, p. 52.
[667] Pécheur (1851), p. 57.6
Family | Ada de Roucy-Ramerupt d. a 1121 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, Chapter 2. SEIGNEURS de ATH: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLEMISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc111525106. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders2.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Aubigne.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avesnes.pdf, p. 2.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ade (Ada) de Montdidier: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020638&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamdampjo.htm#AdaRoucyM1GeoffrGuiseM3ThierrAvesnes
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Walter van Ath: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174878&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#GauthierChimaydiedafter1065
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, Reference #2: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#GauthierAthMAdaRoucy
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, Reference #1: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#GauthierChimaydiedafter1065
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ida van Ath: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00313171&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrix van Ath: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174877&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#BeatrixAthMArnoulHainaut
Lambert I (?) Burggraf van Gen, Avocat of Saint-Pierre de Gand1
M, #60653, d. after 1 November 1026
Last Edited | 12 Dec 2020 |
Lambert I (?) Burggraf van Gen, Avocat of Saint-Pierre de Gand married Gundrada (?)1
Lambert I (?) Burggraf van Gen, Avocat of Saint-Pierre de Gand died after 1 November 1026.1
; Per Med Lands:
"LAMBERT [I] (-after 1 Nov 1026). The Iohannis de Thilrode Chronicon names "Lambertus" as first hereditary castellan of Gent installed by "comite Arnulpho"[834]. Avocat of Saint-Pierre de Gand. "…Lantberti advocati…" signed the charter dated to [996/1031] under which "Landen filia Landrade" submitted herself to the abbey of Saint-Pierre de Gand[835]. "…Lambert advocati et filii eius Folcardi…" signed the charter dated 1 Nov 1026 under which "Eremboldus" donated property to Saint-Pierre de Gand[836].
"m [GUNDRADA, daughter of ---. "Gundrada cum filio suo Folkardo" donated "alodem suum…in pago Curtracinse [in] Wackinna" to Saint-Pierre de Gand by charter dated 1010[837]. It is not known whether Folkard, son of Gundrada, was the same person as Folkard [I], son of Lambert [I].]"
Med Lands cites:
Lambert I (?) Burggraf van Gen, Avocat of Saint-Pierre de Gand died after 1 November 1026.1
; Per Med Lands:
"LAMBERT [I] (-after 1 Nov 1026). The Iohannis de Thilrode Chronicon names "Lambertus" as first hereditary castellan of Gent installed by "comite Arnulpho"[834]. Avocat of Saint-Pierre de Gand. "…Lantberti advocati…" signed the charter dated to [996/1031] under which "Landen filia Landrade" submitted herself to the abbey of Saint-Pierre de Gand[835]. "…Lambert advocati et filii eius Folcardi…" signed the charter dated 1 Nov 1026 under which "Eremboldus" donated property to Saint-Pierre de Gand[836].
"m [GUNDRADA, daughter of ---. "Gundrada cum filio suo Folkardo" donated "alodem suum…in pago Curtracinse [in] Wackinna" to Saint-Pierre de Gand by charter dated 1010[837]. It is not known whether Folkard, son of Gundrada, was the same person as Folkard [I], son of Lambert [I].]"
Med Lands cites:
[834] Iohannis de Thilrode Chronicon 7, MGH SS XXV, p. 563.
[835] Gand Saint-Pierre, 84, p. 68.
[836] Gand Saint-Pierre, 101, p. 75.
[837] Liber traditionum sancti Petri Blandiniensis, 109, p. 102.1
He was Burggraf van Gen in 1010.2[835] Gand Saint-Pierre, 84, p. 68.
[836] Gand Saint-Pierre, 101, p. 75.
[837] Liber traditionum sancti Petri Blandiniensis, 109, p. 102.1
Family | Gundrada (?) |
Child |
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Citations
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLEMISH%20NOBILITY.htm#FolkardIGanddied1073A. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, Chapter 3. GENT: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FLEMISH%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc111525106
Elisabeth de Dampierre1,2,3
F, #60654, d. after March 1228
Father | Guillaume I de Dampierre2,4,1,3 d. c 1161 |
Mother | Ermengarde/Basilie de Mouchy5,2,1,3 |
Last Edited | 6 Nov 2020 |
Elisabeth de Dampierre married Joffroi I (?) Sire d'Aspremont, son of Gobert V d'Aspremont Sire d'Aspremont and Ida de Chiny.6,7,8,1,3
Elisabeth de Dampierre died after March 1228.3
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III/1 51.1
; Per Med Lands:
"ELISABETH (-after Mar 1228). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Ysabella mater domni Roberti de Asperomonte, Oda mater illorum de Torota, tertia Helvidis [uxor] domno Iohanni de Montemirabili" as the three sisters of "pater Erchenbaldi Guido de Dampetra"[93]. “G. dominus Asperimontis” confirmed that “domina Elizabeth Asperimontis” had renounced claims over “forestariorum de Brandevile” in favour of Orval, with the consent of “domini Milonis fratris sui”, by charter dated Mar 1227 (O.S.)[94].
"m GEOFFROY [I] d'Aspremont, son of GOBERT [V] Seigneur d’Aspremont & his wife Ida de Chiny (-20 Jun 1222)."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Wikipédia (Fr.):
"Geoffroi Ier d'Apremont, (1162 - 20 juin/juillet 1222), seigneur d'Apremont et de Dun3. Il épouse Élisabeth, (1150/60 - 1228), fille de Guillaume Ier de Dampierre et d'Ermengarde de Monchy, de qui il a :
; Per Med Lands:
"GEOFFROY [I] d’Aspremont (-20 Jun 1222, bur Verdun Cathedral). “Ludovicus...comes de Chinei” donated “patronatum...ecclesiæ de Giversei, de Trembloit et de Chamoulhei” to Orval by charter dated 1200, under his seal and that of “domini Gaufridi de Asperomonte cognati mei”[671].
"m ELISABETH de Dampierre, daughter of GUILLAUME [I] Seigneur de Dampierre-sur-Aube & his wife [Ermengarde de Moncy]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Ysabella mater domni Roberti de Asperomonte, Oda mater illorum de Torota, tertia Helvidis [uxor] domno Iohanni de Montemirabili" as the three sisters of "pater Erchenbaldi Guido de Dampetra"[672]. “G. dominus Asperimontis” confirmed that “domina Elizabeth Asperimontis” had renounced claims over “forestariorum de Brandevile” in favour of Orval, with the consent of “domini Milonis fratris sui”, by charter dated Mar 1227 (O.S.)[673]."
Med Lands cites:
Elisabeth de Dampierre died after March 1228.3
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III/1 51.1
; Per Med Lands:
"ELISABETH (-after Mar 1228). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Ysabella mater domni Roberti de Asperomonte, Oda mater illorum de Torota, tertia Helvidis [uxor] domno Iohanni de Montemirabili" as the three sisters of "pater Erchenbaldi Guido de Dampetra"[93]. “G. dominus Asperimontis” confirmed that “domina Elizabeth Asperimontis” had renounced claims over “forestariorum de Brandevile” in favour of Orval, with the consent of “domini Milonis fratris sui”, by charter dated Mar 1227 (O.S.)[94].
"m GEOFFROY [I] d'Aspremont, son of GOBERT [V] Seigneur d’Aspremont & his wife Ida de Chiny (-20 Jun 1222)."
Med Lands cites:
[93] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1239, MGH SS XXIII, p. 945.
[94] Orval, CLVII, p. 195.3
[94] Orval, CLVII, p. 195.3
; Per Wikipédia (Fr.):
"Geoffroi Ier d'Apremont, (1162 - 20 juin/juillet 1222), seigneur d'Apremont et de Dun3. Il épouse Élisabeth, (1150/60 - 1228), fille de Guillaume Ier de Dampierre et d'Ermengarde de Monchy, de qui il a :
** Gobert VI qui suit,
** Jean Ier, (? - 10 décembre 1238), chanoine des églises de Metz et de Verdun puis évêque de Verdun et de Metz,
** Élisabeth, (vers 1195 - ?), elle épouse Simon de Passavant, (1182 - 1232),
** Guy/Guillaume, ( 1204 - 1218/24)
** Dreux,
** Ermengarde, (1200 - ?), elle épouse Robert II von Esch, (1205 - 1262/67),
** Henri, (1210 - ?),
** Isabelle, (vers 1215 - ?)."9
** Jean Ier, (? - 10 décembre 1238), chanoine des églises de Metz et de Verdun puis évêque de Verdun et de Metz,
** Élisabeth, (vers 1195 - ?), elle épouse Simon de Passavant, (1182 - 1232),
** Guy/Guillaume, ( 1204 - 1218/24)
** Dreux,
** Ermengarde, (1200 - ?), elle épouse Robert II von Esch, (1205 - 1262/67),
** Henri, (1210 - ?),
** Isabelle, (vers 1215 - ?)."9
; Per Med Lands:
"GEOFFROY [I] d’Aspremont (-20 Jun 1222, bur Verdun Cathedral). “Ludovicus...comes de Chinei” donated “patronatum...ecclesiæ de Giversei, de Trembloit et de Chamoulhei” to Orval by charter dated 1200, under his seal and that of “domini Gaufridi de Asperomonte cognati mei”[671].
"m ELISABETH de Dampierre, daughter of GUILLAUME [I] Seigneur de Dampierre-sur-Aube & his wife [Ermengarde de Moncy]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Ysabella mater domni Roberti de Asperomonte, Oda mater illorum de Torota, tertia Helvidis [uxor] domno Iohanni de Montemirabili" as the three sisters of "pater Erchenbaldi Guido de Dampetra"[672]. “G. dominus Asperimontis” confirmed that “domina Elizabeth Asperimontis” had renounced claims over “forestariorum de Brandevile” in favour of Orval, with the consent of “domini Milonis fratris sui”, by charter dated Mar 1227 (O.S.)[673]."
Med Lands cites:
[671] Orval, XCIII, p. 133.
[672] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1239, MGH SS XXIII, p. 945.
[673] Orval, CLVII, p. 195.8
She was living in 1204.1[672] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1239, MGH SS XXIII, p. 945.
[673] Orval, CLVII, p. 195.8
Family | Joffroi I (?) Sire d'Aspremont d. 20 Jun 1222 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elisabeth de Dampierre: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028270&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders4.html
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamdampjo.htm#ElisabethMGeoffroyIAspremont. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume I de Dampierre: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028287&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermengarde (Basilie) de Mouchy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028304&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders4.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joffroi I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028269&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LORRAINE.htm#GeoffroyIAspremontdied1222
- [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Maison d'Aspremont: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maison_d%27Aspremont. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermengarde d'Aspremont: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164875&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gobert VI: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027120&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LORRAINE.htm#GobertVIAspremontdied1263B
Saint Gobert VI d'Aspremont Sire d'Aspremont et de Dun1,2,3
M, #60655, b. circa 1187, d. circa 20 August 1263
Father | Joffroi I (?) Sire d'Aspremont4,5,1,3 d. 20 Jun 1222 |
Mother | Elisabeth de Dampierre6,1,3 d. a Mar 1228 |
Last Edited | 4 Nov 2020 |
Saint Gobert VI d'Aspremont Sire d'Aspremont et de Dun was born circa 1187 at Dun-sur-Meuse, Departement de la Meuse, Lorraine, France (now).2,7 He married Julienne de Rozoy Dame de Chaumont, daughter of Roger de Rozoy Seigneur de Rozoy and Alix (?) d'Avesnes, before 1221.1,3,8,9
Saint Gobert VI d'Aspremont Sire d'Aspremont et de Dun died circa 20 August 1263 at Villers-la-Ville, Arrondissement de Nivelles, Walloon Brabant, Belgium; Genealogics says d. ca 20 Aug 1263; Med Lands says d. bef May 1239.10,7,1,3
Saint Gobert VI d'Aspremont Sire d'Aspremont et de Dun was buried after 20 August 1263 at Abbaye de Villers-la-Ville, near Villers-la-Ville, Arrondissement de Nivelles, Walloon Brabant, Belgium; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 1187, Dun-sur-Meuse, Departement de la Meuse, Lorraine, France
DEATH 20 Aug 1263 (aged 75–76), Villers-la-Ville, Arrondissement de Nivelles, Walloon Brabant, Belgium
Blessed Gobert (7th) d'Aspremont , born in 1187 and died at the abbey of Villers-en-Brabant on August 20, 1263, was a crusader knight and eventually became a Cistercian monk at the Abbey of Villers-en-Brabant. He is considered a saint in the Cistercian Menologium and his liturgical feast is celebrated regionally on August 20th.
Son of Geoffroi (1st) d'Aspremont and Elisabeth de Dampierre and nephew of the Count of Flanders, Guy de Dampierre, Gobert is high in chivalric tradition. Young knight, he puts himself at the service of the King of France and participates in the crusade against the Albigensians. He then followed the Frederick II, Holy Roman Emperor, in his crusade in Palestine (6th Crusade).
Returning to his country he abandons the profession of arms and retired to the abbey of Villers-en-Brabant and received the Cistercian habit in 1237. He is for some time hermit in Picardy. He was distinguished by a great austerity of life and a deep devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary. He died August 20, 1263 at the abbey of Villers where his venerated remains are still buried.
BURIAL Abbaye de Villers-la-Ville, Villers-la-Ville, Arrondissement de Nivelles, Walloon Brabant, Belgium
Created by: Todd Whitesides
Added: 21 Feb 2015
Find A Grave Memorial 142881247.7
; Per Wikipédia (Fr.):
"Gobert VI d'Apremont, (vers 1187/91 - Abbaye de Villers-la-Ville 20 août 1263), dit "le Bienheureux", seigneur d'Apremont et de Dun. Il succède à son père vers 1208 et reçoit la même année l'inféodation de la terre de Conflans (Pont-Saint-Vincent ?), il participe à la croisade des Albigeois en 1208-1229, il accompagne l'empereur Frédéric II à la sixième croisade à cette occasion les moines de l'Villers en font le récit : « L'empereur Frédéric II, imbu du renom de Gobert d'Aspremont comme d'un capitaine adextre aux armes et très illustre par les belles prouesses qu'il avoit faites en France, feit tous ses efforts pour l'attirer à sa suytte, de sorte qu'après plusieurs dons qu'il luy promeit et beaucoup de propoz fardez pleins de tromperies, à la par fin il luy persuada de se croiser pour l'accompagner en Palestine, sur un jurement qu'il feit que la cause qui le poulsoit à ceste expédition estoit fondée en dévotion et piété. Sur telles promesses, le fidèle et valeureux prince fut déceu, et avec grande troupe de soldats se joignit audit empereur or, arrivé que fut l'empereur en Palestine, incontinent il feit desbarquer une partie de son armée, et laissant le reste dans les basteaux pour faire leur debvoir en mer, il feit paroistre par effects évidens à quelle fin il estoit là venu, quand avec grande multitude de ses troupes et basteaux il molestoit ettourmentoit nonpas les Infidèles, mais les Chrestiens et Templiers. Le valeureux Gobert en fut incontinent adverty par le maistre des Templiers et par le grand commandeur des chevaliers de Saint-Jean, de sorte que se deuillant très fort de la déloyauté et perfidie de l'empereur, ensemble de se veoir déceu de ses bonnes intentions, il se joignit avec toute son armée et autres soldats qu'il avoit attirez au camp de l'empereur, aux susdits Templiers, suyvant quoy il feit planter ses enseignes et banderolles sur les tranchées, afin de se déclarer ennemy du meschant empereur, faire parade de ses bonnes intentions et encourager les autres chrestiens. Par ce fait l'empereur apperceut incontinent la perte qu'il avoit encourue d un homme tant signalé, qui s'estoit retiré de luy pour suivre la meilleure partie ; cause pour quoy il changea de conseil et prit la fuyte, se retirant bientost d'où il estoit venu » ; de retour de Palestine, et après avoir rétabli l'ordre sur ses terres menacées par une révolte soutenue par le comte de Bar Henri II, il effectue un pèlerinage à Saint-Jacques-de-Compostelle puis se retire à l'abbaye de Villers-la-Ville où il mourra et sera inhumé dans le cloître3.
"Il épouse avant 1221 Julienne, (? - 1238/39), dame de Chaumont, fille de Roger de Rozoy et d'Alix d'Avesne, de qui il a :
; This is the same person as ”Gobert d'Aspremont” at Wikipédia (FR).12
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XI 36.1 Saint Gobert VI d'Aspremont Sire d'Aspremont et de Dun was also known as Saint Gobert d'Aspremont.2
; Per Med Lands:
"GOBERT [VI] d’Aspremont, son of GEOFFROY [I] Seigneur d’Aspremont & his wife Elisabeth de Dampierre (-before May 1239). His parentage is confirmed by the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines which names (in order) "Ysabella mater domni Roberti de Asperomonte, Oda mater illorum de Torota, tertia Helvidis [uxor] domno Iohanni de Montemirabili" as the three sisters of "pater Erchenbaldi Guido de Dampetra"[682]. Faget de Casteljau records that “Renard seigneur de Choiseul gardien de la terre d’Apremont” declared that “G. chevalier d’Apremont-le-Châtel” had donated property to Rangéval on leaving for Jerusalem by charter dated 1209, sealed by Raynard “avec Gobert d’Apremont [maybe identified as Gobert [VI] d’Aspremont] dont il se déclare l’oncle”[683]. “Gobert sire d’Aspremont et Julienne sa femme...” donated revenue to Mont-Dieu by charter dated Jun 1221[684]. Seigneur d’Aspremont. “G. dominus Asperimontis” confirmed that “domina Elizabeth Asperimontis” had renounced claims over “forestariorum de Brandevile” in favour of Orval, with the consent of “domini Milonis fratris sui”, by charter dated Mar 1227 (O.S.)[685]. “Gobertus dominus Asperimontis et Duni et Juliana uxor eius” donated their part “in decima de Lyons et de Mervaulx” to the hospital at Dun by charter dated Aug 1234[686]. “G. dominus Asperimontis et Duni” donated “usuarium grangiæ...de Soullepuis” to Orval, with the consent of “uxoris nostræ”, by charter dated Jan 1234 (O.S.)[687]. The necrology of Verdun Cathedral records the death "XVII Kal Jun" of "Guido de Asperomonte", adding that he confirmed the donation of "Roure" made by "patre suo Jofrido" with the consent of "fratrum suorum J. episcopi nostri et Goberti domini de Duno"[688]. His date of death is set by the charter of his widow dated May 1239, quoted below, unless this document is misdated as looks likely from the charter dated to [1270/1249] quoted below. .
"m (before Jun 1221) JULIANE de Rozoy, daughter of ROGER Seigneur de Rozoy & his wife Alix d’Avesnes (-after Jun 1251). The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis names "Machtildem, Aelidem, Adeluyam et Agnetem" as the four daughters of "Nicolai Plukelli filius primogenitus Jacobus" and his wife, adding that "Aelidis secunda filia" married "domino Rogero de Rosoy" by whom she had one son and four daughters and naming their descendants[689]. “Gobert sire d’Aspremont et Julienne sa femme...” donated revenue to Mont-Dieu by charter dated Jun 1221[690]. “Gobertus dominus Asperimontis et Duni et Juliana uxor eius” donated their part “in decima de Lyons et de Mervaulx” to the hospital at Dun by charter dated Aug 1234[691]. “Juliana domina de Duno quondam uxor Goberti domini Asperimontis” acknowledged that “Johannes li Bois de Duno fidelis meis” had renounced claims in favour of Orval, by charter dated May 1239[692]. “Gobert d’Apremont et Julienne sa femme fille de feu Roger de Rosoy l’aîné” acknowledged receipt from “Roger de Rosoy frère de Julienne” relating to “les alleux de leur père à Dizy, Fraillecourt, Reneville” by undated charter[693]. This document is dated to [1270] in the compilation which is impossible in view of the date of death of Juliane’s husband. “Clementia comitissa Salmensis” noted the donations made by “Aelidis dicta domina de Audenarde, Juliana dicta domina de Asperomonte...sorores meæ...[et] Rogero domino Rosetensi...fratri meo” and the monks at Signy by charter dated 1246[694]. “Gobert sire d’Apremont et de Dun, Julienne Dame de Dun sa mère, Richard de Prouville et Richard son fils” disenfranchised “le lieu de Lyon, devant Dun” by letters dated Apr 1251[695]. Dame de 1/3 Chaumont: “Julienne Dame d’Aspremont” acknowledged holding “[le] tiers de Chaumont qui avoit appartenu à Roger de Roset son frère” from the Comte de Champagne, naming “Gobert Sgr d’Apremont son fils” as guarantor, by charter dated Jun 1251[696]."
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"JULIANE de Rozoy (-after Jun 1251). The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "secunda filia domini Rogeri de Rosoic ac dominæ Aelidis...Juliana" married "domino Goberto de Asperomonte" and had four sons and two daughters[807]. “Gobert sire d’Aspremont et Julienne sa femme...” donated revenue to Mont-Dieu by charter dated Jun 1221[808]. “Gobertus dominus Asperimontis et Duni et Juliana uxor eius” donated their part “in decima de Lyons et de Mervaulx” to the hospital at Dun by charter dated Aug 1234[809]. “Gobert d’Apremont et Julienne sa femme fille de feu Roger de Rosoy l’aîné” acknowledged receipt from “Roger de Rosoy frère de Julienne” relating to “les alleux de leur père à Dizy, Fraillecourt, Reneville” by undated charter[810]. This document is dated to [1270] in the compilation which is impossible in view of the date of death of Juliane’s husband. “Juliana domina de Duno quondam uxor Goberti domini Asperimontis” acknowledged that “Johannes li Bois de Duno fidelis meis” had renounced claims in favour of Orval, by charter dated May 1239[811]. “Clementia comitissa Salmensis” noted the donations made by “Aelidis dicta domina de Audenarde, Juliana dicta domina de Asperomonte...sorores meæ...[et] Rogero domino Rosetensi...fratri meo” and the monks at Signy by charter dated 1246[812]. “Gobert sire d’Apremont et de Dun, Julienne Dame de Dun sa mère, Richard de Prouville et Richard son fils” disenfranchised “le lieu de Lyon, devant Dun” by letters dated Apr 1251[813]. “Julienne Dame d’Aspremont” acknowledged holding “[le] tiers de Chaumont qui avoit appartenu à Roger de Roset son frère” from the Comte de Champagne, naming “Gobert Sgr d’Apremont son fils” as guarantor, by charter dated Jun 1251[814].
"m (before Jun 1221) GOBERT [VI] Seigneur d’Aspremont, son of GEOFFROY [I] Seigneur d’Aspremont & his wife Elisabeth de Dampierre (-before May 1239)."
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Saint Gobert VI d'Aspremont Sire d'Aspremont et de Dun died circa 20 August 1263 at Villers-la-Ville, Arrondissement de Nivelles, Walloon Brabant, Belgium; Genealogics says d. ca 20 Aug 1263; Med Lands says d. bef May 1239.10,7,1,3
Saint Gobert VI d'Aspremont Sire d'Aspremont et de Dun was buried after 20 August 1263 at Abbaye de Villers-la-Ville, near Villers-la-Ville, Arrondissement de Nivelles, Walloon Brabant, Belgium; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 1187, Dun-sur-Meuse, Departement de la Meuse, Lorraine, France
DEATH 20 Aug 1263 (aged 75–76), Villers-la-Ville, Arrondissement de Nivelles, Walloon Brabant, Belgium
Blessed Gobert (7th) d'Aspremont , born in 1187 and died at the abbey of Villers-en-Brabant on August 20, 1263, was a crusader knight and eventually became a Cistercian monk at the Abbey of Villers-en-Brabant. He is considered a saint in the Cistercian Menologium and his liturgical feast is celebrated regionally on August 20th.
Son of Geoffroi (1st) d'Aspremont and Elisabeth de Dampierre and nephew of the Count of Flanders, Guy de Dampierre, Gobert is high in chivalric tradition. Young knight, he puts himself at the service of the King of France and participates in the crusade against the Albigensians. He then followed the Frederick II, Holy Roman Emperor, in his crusade in Palestine (6th Crusade).
Returning to his country he abandons the profession of arms and retired to the abbey of Villers-en-Brabant and received the Cistercian habit in 1237. He is for some time hermit in Picardy. He was distinguished by a great austerity of life and a deep devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary. He died August 20, 1263 at the abbey of Villers where his venerated remains are still buried.
BURIAL Abbaye de Villers-la-Ville, Villers-la-Ville, Arrondissement de Nivelles, Walloon Brabant, Belgium
Created by: Todd Whitesides
Added: 21 Feb 2015
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; Per Wikipédia (Fr.):
"Gobert VI d'Apremont, (vers 1187/91 - Abbaye de Villers-la-Ville 20 août 1263), dit "le Bienheureux", seigneur d'Apremont et de Dun. Il succède à son père vers 1208 et reçoit la même année l'inféodation de la terre de Conflans (Pont-Saint-Vincent ?), il participe à la croisade des Albigeois en 1208-1229, il accompagne l'empereur Frédéric II à la sixième croisade à cette occasion les moines de l'Villers en font le récit : « L'empereur Frédéric II, imbu du renom de Gobert d'Aspremont comme d'un capitaine adextre aux armes et très illustre par les belles prouesses qu'il avoit faites en France, feit tous ses efforts pour l'attirer à sa suytte, de sorte qu'après plusieurs dons qu'il luy promeit et beaucoup de propoz fardez pleins de tromperies, à la par fin il luy persuada de se croiser pour l'accompagner en Palestine, sur un jurement qu'il feit que la cause qui le poulsoit à ceste expédition estoit fondée en dévotion et piété. Sur telles promesses, le fidèle et valeureux prince fut déceu, et avec grande troupe de soldats se joignit audit empereur or, arrivé que fut l'empereur en Palestine, incontinent il feit desbarquer une partie de son armée, et laissant le reste dans les basteaux pour faire leur debvoir en mer, il feit paroistre par effects évidens à quelle fin il estoit là venu, quand avec grande multitude de ses troupes et basteaux il molestoit ettourmentoit nonpas les Infidèles, mais les Chrestiens et Templiers. Le valeureux Gobert en fut incontinent adverty par le maistre des Templiers et par le grand commandeur des chevaliers de Saint-Jean, de sorte que se deuillant très fort de la déloyauté et perfidie de l'empereur, ensemble de se veoir déceu de ses bonnes intentions, il se joignit avec toute son armée et autres soldats qu'il avoit attirez au camp de l'empereur, aux susdits Templiers, suyvant quoy il feit planter ses enseignes et banderolles sur les tranchées, afin de se déclarer ennemy du meschant empereur, faire parade de ses bonnes intentions et encourager les autres chrestiens. Par ce fait l'empereur apperceut incontinent la perte qu'il avoit encourue d un homme tant signalé, qui s'estoit retiré de luy pour suivre la meilleure partie ; cause pour quoy il changea de conseil et prit la fuyte, se retirant bientost d'où il estoit venu » ; de retour de Palestine, et après avoir rétabli l'ordre sur ses terres menacées par une révolte soutenue par le comte de Bar Henri II, il effectue un pèlerinage à Saint-Jacques-de-Compostelle puis se retire à l'abbaye de Villers-la-Ville où il mourra et sera inhumé dans le cloître3.
"Il épouse avant 1221 Julienne, (? - 1238/39), dame de Chaumont, fille de Roger de Rozoy et d'Alix d'Avesne, de qui il a :
** Geoffroi II, (après 1215 - Mansourah janvier 1250), seigneur d'Apremont et comte de Sarrebruck par son mariage avec Laure, (? - 13 novembre 1270/71), fille de Simon III de Sarrebruck et de Laurette de Lorraine, elle prend le titre de comtesse après le décès de son père Simon III en 1243, à sa mort Geoffroi II institue son frère Gobert héritier de toutes ses terres à l'exception de celles d'Apremont qu'il laisse à son épouse Laurette de Sarrebruck, Cette dernière, remariée avec un seigneur nommé Loup, cède à sa mort le comté de Sarrebruck à sa sœur Mahaut/Mathilde épouse d'Amédée III de Montfaucon,
** Gobert VII qui suit,
** Jean, chanoine de Verdun, prévôt de Montfaucon,
** Gui, (? - 1270/74), seigneur de Rubigny, il participe aux croisades de Louis IX en 1258 et 1270 où il meurt à Tunis,
** Jacqueline, (1232 - ?),
** Alix, (vers 1232 - ?), elle épouse en 1248 Wauthier III de Ligne, (1225 - avant 1290),
** Marguerite, (1235 - ?), abbesse de Juvigny-sur-Loison,
** Jeanne, (1237 - ?), elle épouse Hugues de Beauffremont,
** Étienne, doyen de Toul vers 1239,
** N..., elle épouse Simon de Lignange,
** N... mariée à Thierry comte de Richecourt, ils eurent Guillaume d'Apremont, comte de Richecourt, et Jean III de Richecourt dit "d'Apremont" évêque de Verdun de 1296 à 1302,
** Isabelle/Jeanne, elle épouse Simon de Sarrebruck, (? - 1325), dernier comte de ce domaine, sans postérité le comté de Sarrebruck revient à Laurette de Sarrebruck,
** Bertha, elle épouse Gobert van Biwel,
** Agnès, (après 1221 - ?), elle épouse Jean de Lens, (vers 1200 - ?)."11
** Gobert VII qui suit,
** Jean, chanoine de Verdun, prévôt de Montfaucon,
** Gui, (? - 1270/74), seigneur de Rubigny, il participe aux croisades de Louis IX en 1258 et 1270 où il meurt à Tunis,
** Jacqueline, (1232 - ?),
** Alix, (vers 1232 - ?), elle épouse en 1248 Wauthier III de Ligne, (1225 - avant 1290),
** Marguerite, (1235 - ?), abbesse de Juvigny-sur-Loison,
** Jeanne, (1237 - ?), elle épouse Hugues de Beauffremont,
** Étienne, doyen de Toul vers 1239,
** N..., elle épouse Simon de Lignange,
** N... mariée à Thierry comte de Richecourt, ils eurent Guillaume d'Apremont, comte de Richecourt, et Jean III de Richecourt dit "d'Apremont" évêque de Verdun de 1296 à 1302,
** Isabelle/Jeanne, elle épouse Simon de Sarrebruck, (? - 1325), dernier comte de ce domaine, sans postérité le comté de Sarrebruck revient à Laurette de Sarrebruck,
** Bertha, elle épouse Gobert van Biwel,
** Agnès, (après 1221 - ?), elle épouse Jean de Lens, (vers 1200 - ?)."11
; This is the same person as ”Gobert d'Aspremont” at Wikipédia (FR).12
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XI 36.1 Saint Gobert VI d'Aspremont Sire d'Aspremont et de Dun was also known as Saint Gobert d'Aspremont.2
; Per Med Lands:
"GOBERT [VI] d’Aspremont, son of GEOFFROY [I] Seigneur d’Aspremont & his wife Elisabeth de Dampierre (-before May 1239). His parentage is confirmed by the Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines which names (in order) "Ysabella mater domni Roberti de Asperomonte, Oda mater illorum de Torota, tertia Helvidis [uxor] domno Iohanni de Montemirabili" as the three sisters of "pater Erchenbaldi Guido de Dampetra"[682]. Faget de Casteljau records that “Renard seigneur de Choiseul gardien de la terre d’Apremont” declared that “G. chevalier d’Apremont-le-Châtel” had donated property to Rangéval on leaving for Jerusalem by charter dated 1209, sealed by Raynard “avec Gobert d’Apremont [maybe identified as Gobert [VI] d’Aspremont] dont il se déclare l’oncle”[683]. “Gobert sire d’Aspremont et Julienne sa femme...” donated revenue to Mont-Dieu by charter dated Jun 1221[684]. Seigneur d’Aspremont. “G. dominus Asperimontis” confirmed that “domina Elizabeth Asperimontis” had renounced claims over “forestariorum de Brandevile” in favour of Orval, with the consent of “domini Milonis fratris sui”, by charter dated Mar 1227 (O.S.)[685]. “Gobertus dominus Asperimontis et Duni et Juliana uxor eius” donated their part “in decima de Lyons et de Mervaulx” to the hospital at Dun by charter dated Aug 1234[686]. “G. dominus Asperimontis et Duni” donated “usuarium grangiæ...de Soullepuis” to Orval, with the consent of “uxoris nostræ”, by charter dated Jan 1234 (O.S.)[687]. The necrology of Verdun Cathedral records the death "XVII Kal Jun" of "Guido de Asperomonte", adding that he confirmed the donation of "Roure" made by "patre suo Jofrido" with the consent of "fratrum suorum J. episcopi nostri et Goberti domini de Duno"[688]. His date of death is set by the charter of his widow dated May 1239, quoted below, unless this document is misdated as looks likely from the charter dated to [1270/1249] quoted below. .
"m (before Jun 1221) JULIANE de Rozoy, daughter of ROGER Seigneur de Rozoy & his wife Alix d’Avesnes (-after Jun 1251). The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis names "Machtildem, Aelidem, Adeluyam et Agnetem" as the four daughters of "Nicolai Plukelli filius primogenitus Jacobus" and his wife, adding that "Aelidis secunda filia" married "domino Rogero de Rosoy" by whom she had one son and four daughters and naming their descendants[689]. “Gobert sire d’Aspremont et Julienne sa femme...” donated revenue to Mont-Dieu by charter dated Jun 1221[690]. “Gobertus dominus Asperimontis et Duni et Juliana uxor eius” donated their part “in decima de Lyons et de Mervaulx” to the hospital at Dun by charter dated Aug 1234[691]. “Juliana domina de Duno quondam uxor Goberti domini Asperimontis” acknowledged that “Johannes li Bois de Duno fidelis meis” had renounced claims in favour of Orval, by charter dated May 1239[692]. “Gobert d’Apremont et Julienne sa femme fille de feu Roger de Rosoy l’aîné” acknowledged receipt from “Roger de Rosoy frère de Julienne” relating to “les alleux de leur père à Dizy, Fraillecourt, Reneville” by undated charter[693]. This document is dated to [1270] in the compilation which is impossible in view of the date of death of Juliane’s husband. “Clementia comitissa Salmensis” noted the donations made by “Aelidis dicta domina de Audenarde, Juliana dicta domina de Asperomonte...sorores meæ...[et] Rogero domino Rosetensi...fratri meo” and the monks at Signy by charter dated 1246[694]. “Gobert sire d’Apremont et de Dun, Julienne Dame de Dun sa mère, Richard de Prouville et Richard son fils” disenfranchised “le lieu de Lyon, devant Dun” by letters dated Apr 1251[695]. Dame de 1/3 Chaumont: “Julienne Dame d’Aspremont” acknowledged holding “[le] tiers de Chaumont qui avoit appartenu à Roger de Roset son frère” from the Comte de Champagne, naming “Gobert Sgr d’Apremont son fils” as guarantor, by charter dated Jun 1251[696]."
Med Lands cites:
[682] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1239, MGH SS XXIII, p. 945.
[683] Faget de Casteljau, H. ‘Recherches sur la maison de Choiseul’, Cahiers haut-marnais, Vol. 105 (1971), p. 148, citing “Cartulaire de Rangéval, Arch. M. et Mos., B 477”.
[684] Passier, H. & A. (1875) Trésor généalogique de Dom Villevieille (Paris) (“Dom Villevieille (Passier)”), Tome III, p. 258. [N.B. “Tome III” in the digitised copy is actually a continuation of Tome II]
[685] Orval, CLVII, p. 195.
[686] Lesort, A. (1904) Les Chartes du Clermontois (Paris) (“Chartes du Clermontois”), XIV, p. 76.
[687] Orval, CXCVIII, p. 232.
[688] Aimond, C. 'Le nécrologe de la cathédrale de Verdun', Jahrbuch der Gesellschaft für lothringische Geschichte und Altertumskunde Year 21 (second part) (1910), p. 218.
[689] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, pp. 560-1.
[690] Dom Villevieille (Passier), Tome III, p. 258.
[691] Chartes du Clermontois, XIV, p. 76.
[692] Orval, CCXXX, p. 259.
[693] Signy, CXLVI, p. 31.
[694] Laurent, P. (ed.) (1894) Revue Historique Ardennaise (Paris), Tome I, A propos des fêtes du centenaire de la réunion de la principauté de Salm à la France, p. 44.
[695] Dom Villevieille (Passier), Tome III, p. 260.
[696] Dom Villevieille (Passier), Tome III, p. 260.3
[683] Faget de Casteljau, H. ‘Recherches sur la maison de Choiseul’, Cahiers haut-marnais, Vol. 105 (1971), p. 148, citing “Cartulaire de Rangéval, Arch. M. et Mos., B 477”.
[684] Passier, H. & A. (1875) Trésor généalogique de Dom Villevieille (Paris) (“Dom Villevieille (Passier)”), Tome III, p. 258. [N.B. “Tome III” in the digitised copy is actually a continuation of Tome II]
[685] Orval, CLVII, p. 195.
[686] Lesort, A. (1904) Les Chartes du Clermontois (Paris) (“Chartes du Clermontois”), XIV, p. 76.
[687] Orval, CXCVIII, p. 232.
[688] Aimond, C. 'Le nécrologe de la cathédrale de Verdun', Jahrbuch der Gesellschaft für lothringische Geschichte und Altertumskunde Year 21 (second part) (1910), p. 218.
[689] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, pp. 560-1.
[690] Dom Villevieille (Passier), Tome III, p. 258.
[691] Chartes du Clermontois, XIV, p. 76.
[692] Orval, CCXXX, p. 259.
[693] Signy, CXLVI, p. 31.
[694] Laurent, P. (ed.) (1894) Revue Historique Ardennaise (Paris), Tome I, A propos des fêtes du centenaire de la réunion de la principauté de Salm à la France, p. 44.
[695] Dom Villevieille (Passier), Tome III, p. 260.
[696] Dom Villevieille (Passier), Tome III, p. 260.3
; Per Med Lands:
"JULIANE de Rozoy (-after Jun 1251). The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "secunda filia domini Rogeri de Rosoic ac dominæ Aelidis...Juliana" married "domino Goberto de Asperomonte" and had four sons and two daughters[807]. “Gobert sire d’Aspremont et Julienne sa femme...” donated revenue to Mont-Dieu by charter dated Jun 1221[808]. “Gobertus dominus Asperimontis et Duni et Juliana uxor eius” donated their part “in decima de Lyons et de Mervaulx” to the hospital at Dun by charter dated Aug 1234[809]. “Gobert d’Apremont et Julienne sa femme fille de feu Roger de Rosoy l’aîné” acknowledged receipt from “Roger de Rosoy frère de Julienne” relating to “les alleux de leur père à Dizy, Fraillecourt, Reneville” by undated charter[810]. This document is dated to [1270] in the compilation which is impossible in view of the date of death of Juliane’s husband. “Juliana domina de Duno quondam uxor Goberti domini Asperimontis” acknowledged that “Johannes li Bois de Duno fidelis meis” had renounced claims in favour of Orval, by charter dated May 1239[811]. “Clementia comitissa Salmensis” noted the donations made by “Aelidis dicta domina de Audenarde, Juliana dicta domina de Asperomonte...sorores meæ...[et] Rogero domino Rosetensi...fratri meo” and the monks at Signy by charter dated 1246[812]. “Gobert sire d’Apremont et de Dun, Julienne Dame de Dun sa mère, Richard de Prouville et Richard son fils” disenfranchised “le lieu de Lyon, devant Dun” by letters dated Apr 1251[813]. “Julienne Dame d’Aspremont” acknowledged holding “[le] tiers de Chaumont qui avoit appartenu à Roger de Roset son frère” from the Comte de Champagne, naming “Gobert Sgr d’Apremont son fils” as guarantor, by charter dated Jun 1251[814].
"m (before Jun 1221) GOBERT [VI] Seigneur d’Aspremont, son of GEOFFROY [I] Seigneur d’Aspremont & his wife Elisabeth de Dampierre (-before May 1239)."
Med Lands cites:
[807] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, pp. 561.
[808] Dom Villevieille (Passier), Tome III, p. 258.
[809] Chartes du Clermontois, XIV, p. 76.
[810] Signy, CXLVI, p. 31.
[811] Orval, CCXXX, p. 259.
[812] Laurent (1894), Tome I, p. 44.
[813] Dom Villevieille (Passier), Tome III, p. 260.
[814] Dom Villevieille (Passier), Tome III, p. 260.9
[808] Dom Villevieille (Passier), Tome III, p. 258.
[809] Chartes du Clermontois, XIV, p. 76.
[810] Signy, CXLVI, p. 31.
[811] Orval, CCXXX, p. 259.
[812] Laurent (1894), Tome I, p. 44.
[813] Dom Villevieille (Passier), Tome III, p. 260.
[814] Dom Villevieille (Passier), Tome III, p. 260.9
Family | Julienne de Rozoy Dame de Chaumont d. a Jun 1251 |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gobert VI: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027120&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobert_d%27Aspremont. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LORRAINE.htm#GobertVIAspremontdied1263B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joffroi I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028269&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LORRAINE.htm#GeoffroyIAspremontdied1222
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elisabeth de Dampierre: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028270&tree=LEO
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 14 November 2019), memorial page for Saint Gobert d'Aspremont (1187–20 Aug 1263), Find A Grave Memorial no. 142881247, citing Abbaye de Villers-la-Ville, Villers-la-Ville, Arrondissement de Nivelles, Walloon Brabant, Belgium ; Maintained by Todd Whitesides (contributor 47553735), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/142881247/saint_gobert-d_aspremont. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Julienne de Rozoy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027121&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#JulianeRozoyMGozbertAspremont
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gobert VI: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027120&tree=LEO
- [S4742] Wikipédia (FR), online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Maison d'Aspremont: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maison_d%27Aspremont
- [S4742] Wikipédia (FR), online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Gobert d'Aspremont: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobert_d%27Aspremont
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alix d'Aspremont: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027122&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gobert VII: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028221&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LORRAINE.htm#GobertVIIAspremontdied1278
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joffroi II d'Aspremont: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00315594&tree=LEO
Gerhard (?) of Hainault1
M, #60656, d. 1166
Father | Baudouin III de Hainaut Count of Hainaut1,2 b. 1088, d. 1120 |
Mother | Yolande (Jolante) (?) de Gueldre1,3 b. c 1092 |
Last Edited | 14 Feb 2004 |
Gerhard (?) of Hainault married Hedwig von Dale Heiress of Dale, daughter of Hermann II von Calvelage Graf von Calvelage, Gf im Westmünsterland and Ethelinde (?) von Northeim.1,4
Gerhard (?) of Hainault died in 1166.1
; their descendants were the Counts von Dale.1
Gerhard (?) of Hainault died in 1166.1
; their descendants were the Counts von Dale.1
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Baudouin III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026391&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Yolande van Wassenberg: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026392&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hedwig von Dale: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174892&tree=LEO
Hedwig von Dale Heiress of Dale1,2,3
F, #60657
Father | Hermann II von Calvelage Graf von Calvelage, Gf im Westmünsterland2,4,3,5 d. a 1105 |
Mother | Ethelinde (?) von Northeim2,6,3 |
Last Edited | 17 Mar 2020 |
Hedwig von Dale Heiress of Dale married Gerhard (?) of Hainault, son of Baudouin III de Hainaut Count of Hainaut and Yolande (Jolante) (?) de Gueldre.1,2
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VIII 45a, 99.7 Hedwig von Dale Heiress of Dale was living in 1166.2
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VIII 45a, 99.7 Hedwig von Dale Heiress of Dale was living in 1166.2
Family | Gerhard (?) of Hainault d. 1166 |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hedwig von Dale: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174892&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 1 page (The Luxemburg Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg1.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hermann: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00124982&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXON%20NOBILITY.htm#_Toc509136511. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ethelinde von Northeim: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00124983&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hedwig von Dale: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174892&tree=LEO
Thierry II de Mortgne d'Oisy1
M, #60658
Father | Wautier/Gautier I 'Le Beau' d;Oisy d'Oisy, sn d'Avesnes, de Conde et de Leuze2,3,4,5,6 b. c 1110, d. bt 1147 - 1149 |
Mother | Ade/Ida de Mortagne2,4,6 |
Last Edited | 14 Aug 2020 |
Thierry II de Mortgne d'Oisy married NN de Hainaut, daughter of Baudouin III de Hainaut Count of Hainaut and Yolande (Jolante) (?) de Gueldre,
;
Her 1st husband.7,8,9
Thierry II de Mortgne d'Oisy died circa 1106.1,2,5
; Per Med Lands:
"THIERRY d'Oisy (-[before 1106]). A charter dated to [1145] records commitments by the abbot of Anchin to the inhabitants of Avesnes and names "Gozewinus Avesnensis castri dominus [et] uxore sua Agnete…Walterus successor et nepos suus [et] uxore sua Ida et filio suo Teoderico"[747]. The Liber de Restauratione Sancti Martini Tornacensis names "filio suo [=Gualterus] Teoderico", specifying that he married "sororem Balduini comitis Montensis"[748]. Seigneur de Mortagne.
"m --- de Hainaut, daughter of [BAUDOUIN II Comte de Hainaut & his wife Ida de Louvain]. The Liber de Restauratione Sancti Martini Tornacensis names "filio suo [=Gualterus] Teoderico", specifying that he married "sororem Balduini comitis Montensis"[749]. The text does not specify which "Balduini comitis Montensis" is intended. However, if Thierry's date of death is correct as shown above, it is likely that the marriage took place only shortly before this date. If that is correct, then the text most probably refers to Count Baudouin III, who succeeded his father in 1098. According to Europäische Stammtafeln[750], Thierry's wife was Richildis, daughter of Baudouin III Comte de Hainaut, who later married Everard [II] Raoul Châtelain de Tournai. However, this is chronologically impossible (assuming that Thierry did die before 1106) as Baudouin III's marriage is dated to [1107]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"[daughter . The Liber de Restauratione Sancti Martini Tornacensis names "filio suo [=Gualterus] Teoderico", specifying that he married "sororem Balduini comitis Montensis"[178]. The text does not specify which "Balduini comitis Montensis" is intended. However, if Thierry's date of death is correct as shown above, it is likely that the marriage took place only shortly before this date. If that is correct, then the text most probably refers to Count Baudouin III, who succeeded his father in 1098. According to Europäische Stammtafeln[179], Thierry's wife was Richildis, daughter of Baudouin III Comte de Hainaut, who later married Everard [II] Raoul Châtelain de Tournai. However, this is chronologically impossible (assuming that Thierry did die before 1106) as Baudouin III's marriage is dated to [1107].
"m THIERRY d'Avesnes Seigneur de Mortagne, son of GAUTHIER [I] d'Oisy, Seigneur d'Avesnes, de Condé et de Leuze & his wife Ida de Mortagne (-[before 1106]).]"
Med Lands cites:
;
Her 1st husband.7,8,9
Thierry II de Mortgne d'Oisy died circa 1106.1,2,5
; Per Med Lands:
"THIERRY d'Oisy (-[before 1106]). A charter dated to [1145] records commitments by the abbot of Anchin to the inhabitants of Avesnes and names "Gozewinus Avesnensis castri dominus [et] uxore sua Agnete…Walterus successor et nepos suus [et] uxore sua Ida et filio suo Teoderico"[747]. The Liber de Restauratione Sancti Martini Tornacensis names "filio suo [=Gualterus] Teoderico", specifying that he married "sororem Balduini comitis Montensis"[748]. Seigneur de Mortagne.
"m --- de Hainaut, daughter of [BAUDOUIN II Comte de Hainaut & his wife Ida de Louvain]. The Liber de Restauratione Sancti Martini Tornacensis names "filio suo [=Gualterus] Teoderico", specifying that he married "sororem Balduini comitis Montensis"[749]. The text does not specify which "Balduini comitis Montensis" is intended. However, if Thierry's date of death is correct as shown above, it is likely that the marriage took place only shortly before this date. If that is correct, then the text most probably refers to Count Baudouin III, who succeeded his father in 1098. According to Europäische Stammtafeln[750], Thierry's wife was Richildis, daughter of Baudouin III Comte de Hainaut, who later married Everard [II] Raoul Châtelain de Tournai. However, this is chronologically impossible (assuming that Thierry did die before 1106) as Baudouin III's marriage is dated to [1107]."
Med Lands cites:
[747] Duvivier (1898), p. 300.
[748] Herimanni, Liber de Restauratione Sancti Martini Tornacensis 57, MGH SS XIV, p. 300.
[749] Herimanni, Liber de Restauratione Sancti Martini Tornacensis 57, MGH SS XIV, p. 300.
[750] ES II 6 and ES III 50.2
[748] Herimanni, Liber de Restauratione Sancti Martini Tornacensis 57, MGH SS XIV, p. 300.
[749] Herimanni, Liber de Restauratione Sancti Martini Tornacensis 57, MGH SS XIV, p. 300.
[750] ES II 6 and ES III 50.2
; Per Med Lands:
"[daughter . The Liber de Restauratione Sancti Martini Tornacensis names "filio suo [=Gualterus] Teoderico", specifying that he married "sororem Balduini comitis Montensis"[178]. The text does not specify which "Balduini comitis Montensis" is intended. However, if Thierry's date of death is correct as shown above, it is likely that the marriage took place only shortly before this date. If that is correct, then the text most probably refers to Count Baudouin III, who succeeded his father in 1098. According to Europäische Stammtafeln[179], Thierry's wife was Richildis, daughter of Baudouin III Comte de Hainaut, who later married Everard [II] Raoul Châtelain de Tournai. However, this is chronologically impossible (assuming that Thierry did die before 1106) as Baudouin III's marriage is dated to [1107].
"m THIERRY d'Avesnes Seigneur de Mortagne, son of GAUTHIER [I] d'Oisy, Seigneur d'Avesnes, de Condé et de Leuze & his wife Ida de Mortagne (-[before 1106]).]"
Med Lands cites:
[178] Herimanni, Liber de Restauratione Sancti Martini Tornacensis 57, MGH SS XIV, p. 300.
[179] ES II 6 and ES III 50.9
[179] ES II 6 and ES III 50.9
Family | NN de Hainaut |
Citations
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Aubigne.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#ThierryOisydiedbefore1106. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2121] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 4 Jan 2007: "the house of Avesnes, and the advocates of Tournai"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/RWs6Dh0Y6uw/m/LdZiVfpelkoJ) to e-mail address, 4 Jan 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 4 Jan 2007."
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#GauthierOisyAvesnesdied1147
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 3 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders3.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille & seigneurs d’ Avesnes, p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avesnes.pdf
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 3 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders3.html
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders2.html
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#dauBaudouinIIHainautMThierryAvesnes
Beatrice Fiesco1,2
F, #60659, b. 1225, d. 8 July 1283
Father | Tedisio Fiesco Patrizio di Genova, Conte di Lavagna3,4,2,5 d. b 1255 |
Mother | Simona della Volta3,6,2,5 |
Last Edited | 16 Dec 2019 |
Beatrice Fiesco was born in 1225.7 She married Tommaso II (?) Count of Savoy, Aosta and Moriana, Signore del Piemonte, Marchese di Torino e Ivrea, Ct of Flanders and Hainaut, Vicario imperiale del Piemonte, Principe di Capua, son of Tommaso I (?) Count of Savoy, Aosta and Moriana and Béatrice (?) de Genève, after June 1251
;
His 2nd wife.3,2,8,9,5
Beatrice Fiesco died on 8 July 1283; Genealogy.EU says b. 15 Jul 1283; Genealogics says b. 8 Jul 1283.1,10,11,5
Beatrice Fiesco was buried after 9 July 1283 at Abbaye de Hautcombe, Saint-Pierre-de-Curtille, Departement de la Savoie, Rhône-Alpes, France; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 1225
DEATH 9 Jul 1283 (aged 57–58)
Countess of Savoy, niece of Pope Innocent IV and sister of Adrian V.. Born the daughter of Tedisio III Fieschi and Simona de Volta di Capo Corso. She married Thomas II in 1245.
Family Members
Spouse
Thomas II of Savoy 1199–1259 (m. 1245)
Children
Louis of Savoy 1250–1302
Amadeus V of Savoy 1253–1323
BURIAL Abbaye de Hautecombe, Saint-Pierre-de-Curtille, Departement de la Savoie, Rhône-Alpes, France
Created by: Lutetia
Added: 3 Nov 2014
Find A Grave Memorial 138231001.7
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: II 190.11
; See Med Lands entry for more information.5 Beatrice Fiesco was also known as Beatrice Fieschi.10
;
His 2nd wife.3,2,8,9,5
Beatrice Fiesco died on 8 July 1283; Genealogy.EU says b. 15 Jul 1283; Genealogics says b. 8 Jul 1283.1,10,11,5
Beatrice Fiesco was buried after 9 July 1283 at Abbaye de Hautcombe, Saint-Pierre-de-Curtille, Departement de la Savoie, Rhône-Alpes, France; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 1225
DEATH 9 Jul 1283 (aged 57–58)
Countess of Savoy, niece of Pope Innocent IV and sister of Adrian V.. Born the daughter of Tedisio III Fieschi and Simona de Volta di Capo Corso. She married Thomas II in 1245.
Family Members
Spouse
Thomas II of Savoy 1199–1259 (m. 1245)
Children
Louis of Savoy 1250–1302
Amadeus V of Savoy 1253–1323
BURIAL Abbaye de Hautecombe, Saint-Pierre-de-Curtille, Departement de la Savoie, Rhône-Alpes, France
Created by: Lutetia
Added: 3 Nov 2014
Find A Grave Memorial 138231001.7
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: II 190.11
; See Med Lands entry for more information.5 Beatrice Fiesco was also known as Beatrice Fieschi.10
Family | Tommaso II (?) Count of Savoy, Aosta and Moriana, Signore del Piemonte, Marchese di Torino e Ivrea, Ct of Flanders and Hainaut, Vicario imperiale del Piemonte, Principe di Capua b. 1199, d. 7 Feb 1259 |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrice Fieschi: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027334&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Savoy 1 page (The House of Savoy): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/savoy/savoy1.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Tedisio Fieschi: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028053&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20ITALY%201100-1400.htm#Beatricedied1283. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Simone della Volta: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028053&tree=LEO
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 16 December 2019), memorial page for Beatrice Fieschi (1225–9 Jul 1283), Find A Grave Memorial no. 138231001, citing Abbaye de Hautecombe, Saint-Pierre-de-Curtille, Departement de la Savoie, Rhône-Alpes, France ; Maintained by Lutetia (contributor 46580078), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/138231001/beatrice-fieschi. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Tommaso II de Savoie: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027333&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAVOY.htm#ThomasIIdied1259B
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Savoy 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/savoy/savoy2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrice Fieschi: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027334&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eleonore de Savoie: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027340&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Savoy 1 page - The House of Savoy: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/savoy/savoy1.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret de Savoie: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00478361&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Tommaso III de Savoie: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106554&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrice Fiesco: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027334&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Louis I de Savoie: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079353&tree=LEO
Tedisio Fiesco Patrizio di Genova, Conte di Lavagna1,2
M, #60660, d. before 1255
Father | Ugo Fiesco Conte di Lavagna3 d. a 1178 |
Last Edited | 16 Dec 2019 |
Tedisio Fiesco Patrizio di Genova, Conte di Lavagna married Simona della Volta, daughter of Raimondo della Volta.1,2,4
Tedisio Fiesco Patrizio di Genova, Conte di Lavagna died before 1255.2
; Leo van de Pas cites: Les Ancetres d'Albert Schweitzer, Strasbourg. , Reference: 65.2
Tedisio Fiesco Patrizio di Genova, Conte di Lavagna died before 1255.2
; Leo van de Pas cites: Les Ancetres d'Albert Schweitzer, Strasbourg. , Reference: 65.2
Family | Simona della Volta |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Savoy 1 page (The House of Savoy): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/savoy/savoy1.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Tedisio Fieschi: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028053&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ugo Fieschi: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00030753&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Simone della Volta: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028053&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Niccolo Fieschi: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020865&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Federico Fieschi: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028052&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Tedisio Fiesco: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028053&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Pope Adrian V: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028055&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrice Fieschi: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027334&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20ITALY%201100-1400.htm#Beatricedied1283. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.