Thomas V de Multon Lord Multon of Gillesland1,2

M, #5671, b. circa 1281, d. 1313
FatherThomas IV de Multon of Gilsland, Burgh-on-Sands and Kirkoswald, Cumberland3 d. 1295
ReferenceEDV21
Last Edited2 Jul 2006
     Thomas V de Multon Lord Multon of Gillesland married Margaret de Mauley, daughter of Sir Piers de Mauley of Mulgrave Castle and Nichola de Gaunt.3,4 Thomas V de Multon Lord Multon of Gillesland was born circa 1281; Ravilious cites:
1. I. J. Sanders, "English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and
Descent, 1086-1327," Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.3
Thomas V de Multon Lord Multon of Gillesland died in 1313; d.s.p.m.3
     EDV-21.

Thomas V de Multon Lord Multon of Gillesland lived at Gilsland, co. Cumberland, England.1

Thomas V de Multon Lord Multon of Gillesland
(an unknown value.)5 He was Lord (Baron) Multon of Gillesland, by writ of Edward II on 28 August 1307.1,2

Family

Margaret de Mauley b. c 1280
Child

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Dacre Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint og 1883 edition), p. 152. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  3. [S1840] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email #2 23 Nov 2004 "Re: Morville - Stuteville question"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email #2 23 Nov 2004."
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret de Mauley: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139893&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).

Maud (Margaret) de Mortimer1,2

F, #5672, b. circa 1286, d. 17 September 1312
FatherSir Edmund de Mortimer Knt., 7th Baron Mortimer of Wigmore3,4,1,2 b. bt 1251 - 1254, d. 17 Jul 1304
MotherMargaret/Marguerite de Fiennes3,5,2 b. 1268, d. 7 Feb 1333/34
ReferenceEDV21
Last Edited3 Oct 2019
     Maud (Margaret) de Mortimer was born circa 1286.3 She married Sir Theobald de Verdun Knt., 2nd Lord Verdun, son of Theobald de Verdun 1st Lord Verdun and Margery/Eleanor de Bohun, on 29 July 1302 at Wigmore, Herefordshire Unitary Authority, Herefordshire, England; his 1st wife.6,3,2,1
Maud (Margaret) de Mortimer died on 17 September 1312 at Alton, Staffordshire, England.7,3,2
Maud (Margaret) de Mortimer was buried after 17 September 1312 at Croxden Abbey, England.8,2


     EDV-21 GKJ-20.

Maud (Margaret) de Mortimer
Maud de Mortimer
----------------------------------------
Birth: abt 1286
Death: abt 18 Sep 1312[11]

had the castle and manor of Donmask [Dunamase, co. Laois] as her
maritagium[12]

1st wife

Spouse: Sir Theobald de Verdun, Lord Verdun
Birth: 8 Sep 1278[8]
Death: 27 Jul 1316, Alton[8]
Father: Theobald de Verdun (<1248-1309)
Mother: Margery de Bohun
Marr: 29 Jul 1302, Wigmore[8]

Children: Joan (ca1303-1334)
Elizabeth (ca1306-1360)
Margery

Sources:
1. Mike Talbot, "Lusignan and Fougeres," Feb 10, 1999,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, additional information and correction
from Olivier Cocheril.
2. Detlev Schewennicke, "Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte
der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge," [ " European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series " ], Marburg,
Germany: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1978-1995 [3rd series], First
series by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, continued second series by
Frank, Baron Freytag von Loringhoven.
3. John Gillingham, "Richard I," New Haven: Yale University Press, 1999, 129,
152 (de Camville), Yale English Monarchs series.
4. "Europaische Stammtafeln," per Janko Pavsic, email 1/19/2001 (Vol III.4,
tafel 689-690), janko_pavsic@my-deja.com; also jankopavsic@hotmail.com.
5. FranceBalade, "Les Vicomtes de Chateaudun,"
www.francebalade.com/chartres/ctdunois.htm
6. Ed Mann, "Jean de Brienne," Society of Medieval Genealogy
(www.rootsweb.com), 28 Mar 1999 (on GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com).
7. John Carmi Parsons, "Wives of Jean de Brienne (d. 1296)," Sept 4 1998,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, reply from Leo van de Pas, same date.
8. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," 1910 -
The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the
United Kingdom.
9. John Carmi Parsons, "de Fiennes de la Plaunche," Aug 30, 1998,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites the wardrobe account book of Eleanor
of Castile, queen of England, 'for the last year of her life (1289-90)',
(Parsons, _The Court and Household of Eleanor of Castile in 1290_,
[Toronto, 1977], pp. 41-55.)
10. "Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs to 1516," www.histparl.ac.uk/cmh/gaz/
11. "Ancestors of Edmund de Mortimer," David Utzinger
UTZ@aol.com, 4 August 2000.
12. "The Sources for the History of Dunamase Castle in the Medieval period,"
B.J. Hodkinson, URL: http://www.clanomore.com/dunarch.htm, cites CPR
1301-07, p. 33.
13. Douglas Richardson, "Mortimer account," November 19, 2002, paper copy:
library of John Ravilious, cites sources for history of Mortimer family,
including Wigmore chronicle (in Dugdale, Monasticon Anglicanum).
14. David Williamson, "Brewer's British Royalty," Cassell/Wellington House,
1996.
15. Chris Phillips, "Re: Burial Place of Roger de Mortimer (d. 1330),"
September 15, 2002, paper copy: library of John P. Ravilious, cites CP
vol. VIII pp. 436-7; also Cal. Patent Rolls, 1321-4.
16. "The Hundred Years War," Jonathan Sumption, Philadelphia: University of
Pennsylvania Press, 1999 (first US pub. in 1991; in Britain, 1990), Vol.
I: Trial by Battle.
17. Frederick L. Weis, Th. D., "The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215," Baltimore:
Gen Pub Co., 5th ed., 1997 (W. L. Sheppard Jr & David Faris).
18. David Faris, "Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists,"
Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999, (2nd edition,
1999).
19. Douglas Richardson, "Plantagenet," Jan 20, 2003, email
royalancestry@msn.com.
20. "The Comyns: Robert the Bruce's Rivals, 1212-1314," Alan Young, Tuckwell
Press (East Linton, Scotland), 1997.
21. Frederick L. Weis (add/corr, Walter L Sheppard Jr.), "Ancestral Roots of
Certain American Colonists," Baltimore: Genealogical Pub. Co., connection
of Isabel de Condet and Hugh Bardolf, as cited by E. Mann,
Line 132D-27,-28 in AR7, also, Descendants of Henry I of Germany
(10/30/98), Line 157 (Gerberga of Burgundy to Emperor Henry III).
22. Todd A. Farmerie, "De Lusignan/d'Eu," 14 June 1996,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, additional comments and input from W. A.
Reitwiesner (13 June) and Jim Stevens (2 Nov).3

Maud (Margaret) de Mortimer
van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: XII 252.9,2

Family

Sir Theobald de Verdun Knt., 2nd Lord Verdun b. 8 Sep 1278, d. 27 Jul 1316
Children

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Mortimer 7: p. 522. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud Mortimer: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177618&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1557] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 21 Jan 2004: "Companions of the Third Crusade (was Re: Crusader ancestors (long)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 21 Jan 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 21 Jan 2004."
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Edmund Mortimer: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026603&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret de Fiennes: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026604&tree=LEO
  6. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 13-6, p. 14. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  7. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 70-32, p. 72. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  8. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), pp. 56-57. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  9. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  10. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Petre Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth de Verdun: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00125468&tree=LEO
  12. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Burghhersh 9: p. 169.
  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elizabeth de Verdun: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00125468&tree=LEO
  14. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Dromant, Abeyant, Forgeited, and Extinct Peerages, p. 54. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  15. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Crophill 9: pp. 248-249.
  16. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margery de Verdun: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00289828&tree=LEO

Sir Archibald "The Grim" Douglas 3rd Earl of Douglas

M, #5673, b. circa 1325, d. 24 December 1400
FatherSir James Douglas Lord of Galloway b. 1286, d. 25 Aug 1330
ReferenceGAV19
Last Edited3 Sep 2019
     Sir Archibald "The Grim" Douglas 3rd Earl of Douglas was born circa 1325.1 He married Lady Joan/Joanna Moray , 4th of Drumsagard, and 2nd of Cortachy, daughter of Maurice Moray 1st Earl of Strathearn and Joanna Menteith Lady of Cortachy, Countess of Strathearn, circa 23 July 1362.2,1,3,4
Sir Archibald "The Grim" Douglas 3rd Earl of Douglas died on 24 December 1400.3
     He was 3rd Earl of Douglas.5,1

Sir Archibald "The Grim" Douglas 3rd Earl of Douglas
ARCHIBALD DOUGLAS, 3rd EARL OF DOUGLAS, called 'The Grim'; b c 1325; fought alongside his cousin 2nd EARL (see below) at Battle of Poitiers against the English 19 Sept 1356; Ld Warden Marches 1368-1400; m c 23 July 1362 Lady Joan, only child of Maurice Moray, 1st Earl of Strathearn of the Feb 1343/4 cr, and widow of Sir Thomas Moray, feudal Ld of Bothwell, and d between 24 Dec 1400 and 9 Feb 1400/1.1

Sir Archibald "The Grim" Douglas 3rd Earl of Douglas
CP 3rd Earl Archibald Douglas illegitimate b. c. 1325 died Dec 24 1400 m. bef 23
Jul 1362 m. Joan Stratherne. buried at Bothwell.

History of Rutland p. 181 says Archibald the 2nd son who was 3rd Earl ob 1400
m. Elizabeth dau of Thomas Murray, Lord of Bothwell in Scotland son of Sir
William Douglas 2nd Earl m. Margaret dau of Patrick Earl of Mar.6,5 GAV-19.

Family 1

Child

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Queensbury Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 165-9, p. 196. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  3. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stirling Home Drummong Moray of Abercairny Family Page.
  4. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Doouglas - Earl of Douglas, p. 175. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  5. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis MCS-5, line 41C-8, p. 53.
  6. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  7. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), p. 548 (Chart 41). Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
  8. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart Earls of Moray Family Page.
  9. [S1426] Jiri Louda (Tables) and Michael Maclagan (text), Lines of Succession: Heraldry of the Royal Families of Europe (NY: Barnes & Noble Books, 2002), Table 13: Scotland: Houses of Bruce and Stuart. Hereinafter cited as Louda & Maclagan [2002] Lines of Succession.
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, James Douglas 'the Gross', 7th Earl of Douglas: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00021551&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Lady Joan/Joanna Moray , 4th of Drumsagard, and 2nd of Cortachy1,2

F, #5674, b. circa 1325, d. before August 1409
FatherMaurice Moray 1st Earl of Strathearn3 d. 17 Oct 1346
MotherJoanna Menteith Lady of Cortachy, Countess of Strathearn2 b. c 1310, d. 1367
ReferenceGAV19
Last Edited3 Sep 2019
     Lady Joan/Joanna Moray , 4th of Drumsagard, and 2nd of Cortachy married Sir Thomas Moray Lord of Bothwell, son of Sir Andrew Moray Lord of Bothwell, Regent of Scotland and Lady Christian de Brus Lady of Garioch.3,2 Lady Joan/Joanna Moray , 4th of Drumsagard, and 2nd of Cortachy was born circa 1325. She married Sir Archibald "The Grim" Douglas 3rd Earl of Douglas, son of Sir James Douglas Lord of Galloway, circa 23 July 1362.1,3,2,4
Lady Joan/Joanna Moray , 4th of Drumsagard, and 2nd of Cortachy died before August 1409.2
     GAV-19.

Lady Joan/Joanna Moray , 4th of Drumsagard, and 2nd of Cortachy
(an unknown value.)5

Citations

  1. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 165-9, p. 196. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stirling Home Drummong Moray of Abercairny Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Queensbury Family Page.
  4. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Doouglas - Earl of Douglas, p. 175. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  5. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, James Douglas 'the Gross', 7th Earl of Douglas: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00021551&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Margaret de Mauley1

F, #5675, b. circa 1280
FatherSir Piers de Mauley of Mulgrave Castle2,1 b. 22 Jul 1249, d. 8 Sep 1308
MotherNichola de Gaunt2,1 d. 1284
ReferenceEDV20
Last Edited2 Jul 2006
     Margaret de Mauley married Thomas V de Multon Lord Multon of Gillesland, son of Thomas IV de Multon of Gilsland, Burgh-on-Sands and Kirkoswald, Cumberland.2,1 Margaret de Mauley was born circa 1280.
     EDV-20.

Margaret de Mauley
van de Pas cites: 1. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard, Reference: 389
2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: IX 407.1

Margaret de Mauley
(an unknown value.)3

Family

Thomas V de Multon Lord Multon of Gillesland b. c 1281, d. 1313
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret de Mauley: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139893&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1840] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email #2 23 Nov 2004 "Re: Morville - Stuteville question"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 23 Nov 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email #2 23 Nov 2004."
  3. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).

Sir Randolf/Ranulph de Dacre 1st Lord Dacre1,2

M, #5676, b. circa 1290, d. before 20 April 1339
FatherSir William de Dacre Baron Dacre1,2,3 b. 12 Mar 1265/66, d. b 24 Aug 1318
MotherJoane Gernet2 b. c 1266, d. 28 Nov 1324
ReferenceEDV19
Last Edited8 Sep 2020
     Sir Randolf/Ranulph de Dacre 1st Lord Dacre was buried at Lanercost Priory, co. Cumberland, England.

He was born circa 1290. He married Margaret de Multon, daughter of Thomas V de Multon Lord Multon of Gillesland and Margaret de Mauley, before 1315.4,2
Sir Randolf/Ranulph de Dacre 1st Lord Dacre died before 20 April 1339.2
     EDV-19.

Sir Randolf/Ranulph de Dacre 1st Lord Dacre
Ranulph de Dacre, who had summons to parliament as Baron Dacre, from 15 May, 1321, to 15th November, 1338. His lordship was made sheriff of Cumberland and governor of Carlisle, in the 4th Edward III., and in the 8th of the same monarch, he obtained livery of all those castles and manots in Anandale, within the realm of Scotland, part of the possessions of Roger de Kirkpatic and Humphrey de Bois, which had been given to him by Edward, King of Scotland. He was also, in the same year, joined in commission with Robert de Clifford, for the defence of the town and marches of Carlisle, and for arraying so many "men at arms, hoblers, and food soldiers," as should be needful for the service. In the next year he had license to make a castle for his house at Naworth, co. Cumberland. His lordship m. Margaret, only dau. and heiress of Thomas de Multon, Baron Multon, of Gillesland (by writ of Edward II, dated 26 August 1307), by whom he acquired considerable estates, and left at his decease, in 1339, three sons.2

Sir Randolf/Ranulph de Dacre 1st Lord Dacre
CP 4 p 1 Sir Randolf de Dacre (son and heir of William de Dacre of Dacre,
Cumberland b. 12 Mar 1265/6 d. sh.bef 24 Aug 1318 bur at Prescot. Co Lancaster
by Joan da and heir of Benet Gernet of Halton, Fishwick and Eccleston, co.
Lancaster.) Aged 28 at father's death. A banneret 14 Mar. 1336/7. Sheriff of
Cumberland 1330-35/6. He married in or before 1315 Margaret da and h. of Thomas
De Multon of Gilsland Cumberland by a dau of Piers de Mauley of Mulgrave co.
York, Lord Mauley. He died sh. bef. 20 Apr 1339 and was buried in Lanercost
Priory. His widow who was born at Mulgrave Castle 20, and bapt. at Lythe 24
Jul. 1300 had livery of divers manors which she and her husband held jointly.
She died 10 Dec. 1361.

Visitations of Yorkshire p. 83 says Randolf is the son of William Dacre and
Anne Derwentwater, son of Randolph and dau of Roose of Kendall, son of Thomas
and Miss Morley, son of Humphrey and Miss Harrington, son of Thomas and Miss
Mowbray, son of William and Miss Grey of Codnor, son of Richard and Miss
Beaumont, son of Humphrey of Lincolnshire and Anne Bardolph.5 He was 1st Lord (Baron) Dacre on 15 May 1321.2 He was Sheriff of Cumberland in the 4th Edward III circa 1330 at co. Cumberland, England.2

Family

Margaret de Multon b. 20 Jul 1300, d. 10 Dec 1361
Children

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Berners Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint og 1883 edition), p. 152. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Dacre: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139882&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Dacre Family Page.
  5. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).

Margaret Mar

F, #5677, b. circa 1270
Last Edited19 May 2003
     Margaret Mar married Sir William "le Hardi" Douglas 5th of Douglas, son of Sir William Douglas 3rd Chief of Douglas and Constance de Bataille. Margaret Mar was born circa 1270.
     Margaret Mar
Is she Margaret Mar the daughter of Patrick Earl of Mar per Rutland p. 181.1

Family

Sir William "le Hardi" Douglas 5th of Douglas b. a 24 Apr 1235, d. b 24 Jan 1296

Citations

  1. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).

Katherine de Mauley1,2

F, #5678, b. circa 1260, d. 1346
FatherSir Piers de Mauley of Mulgrave Castle1,2 b. 22 Jul 1249, d. 8 Sep 1308
MotherNichola de Gaunt1,2 d. 1284
ReferenceEDV20
Last Edited26 Dec 2012
     Katherine de Mauley was born circa 1260. She married Sir Robert Constable Knt.; his 1st wife.3,2
Katherine de Mauley died in 1346.1
Katherine de Mauley was buried in 1346 at Flamborough, Yorkshire, England.1


     EDV-20.

Katherine de Mauley
(an unknown value.)4

Family

Sir Robert Constable Knt. b. b 24 Jun 1279, d. a 8 Dec 1336
Children

Citations

  1. [S1766] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 29 Aug 2005 "Constable Connections - Sir Robert and his 'cousin' Edmund de Thweng"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 29 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 29 Aug 2005."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Katherine (de Mauley): http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00570996&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Robert Constable: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00570995&tree=LEO
  4. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir Marmaduke Constable, of Flamborough: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00570998&tree=LEO

William de Dacre 5th Lord Dacre, Maron Multon of Gillesland1,2

M, #5679, b. circa 1357, d. 20 July 1399
FatherHugh de Dacre 4th Lord Dacre, Baron Multon of Gillesland1,2 b. c 1335, d. 24 Dec 1383
MotherElizabeth Maxwell1,2 b. c 1335, d. b 1 Jan 1369/70
ReferenceEDV17
Last Edited2 Sep 2008
     William de Dacre 5th Lord Dacre, Maron Multon of Gillesland married Joan Douglas, daughter of James Douglas 2nd Earl of Douglas and Mar.1 William de Dacre 5th Lord Dacre, Maron Multon of Gillesland was born circa 1357.1,2
William de Dacre 5th Lord Dacre, Maron Multon of Gillesland died on 20 July 1399.1
     EDV-17. He was 5th Lord Dacre.3

William de Dacre 5th Lord Dacre, Maron Multon of Gillesland
William de Dacre, b. 1357, summoned to parliament from 3 March, 1384, to 23 November, 1403. His lordship m. Joan, illegitimate dau. of James, Earl of Douglas, and dying about the year 1403, was s. by his son.2

William de Dacre 5th Lord Dacre, Maron Multon of Gillesland
CP 4 p 6 William age 26 or more at his father's death. He married Joan Douglas.
He died 20 July 1399 and was buried in Lanercost priory. He married Mary. Joan
was said to be daughter of James Earl of Douglas but that would make him a
grandfather at 29.4

Family

Joan Douglas b. c 1357
Child

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Dacre Family Page (see MAXWELL, Bt). Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint og 1883 edition), p. 152. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  3. [S673] David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists: The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701, English Ancestry Series, Volume 1, Second Edition (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999), pp. 105-106. Hereinafter cited as Faris [1999] - Plantagenet Ancestry.
  4. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  5. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Dacre 11: p. 250. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Sir James Douglas Lord of Galloway1,2

M, #5680, b. 1286, d. 25 August 1330
FatherSir William "le Hardi" Douglas 5th of Douglas3,2 b. a 24 Apr 1235, d. b 24 Jan 1296
MotherElizabeth Stewart4,5,2 b. 1244, d. 1289
ReferenceGAV20
Last Edited19 Aug 2019
     Sir James Douglas Lord of Galloway was born in 1286.5,2
Sir James Douglas Lord of Galloway died on 25 August 1330 at Spain; died in defense of Bruce's heart.1,5,2
     He was Lord of Galloway.6 GAV-20.

Sir James Douglas Lord of Galloway
van de Pas cites: 1. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: IV 432
2. The Black and the Red in The Story of Scotland Glasgow, 1984., Massie, Allan.2

Sir James Douglas Lord of Galloway
per van de Pas: "Sir James Douglas was Robert Bruce's most faithful and capable general. It was Sir James who regained Roxburgh Castle from the English by a stratagem that became one of the most famous stories of the war: his men, crawling towards the castle under the cover of dark cloaks, were mistaken for cattle in the twilight, and had mounted the walls before the garrison realised that they were being attacked. As a result of this success, the whole of Teviotdale was won back for Bruce, for Roxburgh was the most important castle west of Berwick.

It was this Douglas who was the first to be known as the Black Douglas, on account of his dark complexion. He is said to have taken part in more than 70 fights, including most notably, Bannockburn in 1314, and his reputation was so notorious that English mothers would use his name as a bogeyman to persuade their children to behave.

When Bruce died, Douglas carried his heart on crusade, to fulfil a vow that the king had made but been unable to keep. He broke his journey in Spain, where the Christians were attempting to reclaim the south from the Muslims. His arrival there created a sensation for, according to Froissart, the greatest of contemporary writers on warfare and chivalry, Douglas was considered 'the bravest and most enterprising knight in Britain'.

In battle in Andalusia, near the castle of Teba, he found himself cut off and surrounded by the enemy. Seeing there was no real hope of escaping, he threw the casket containing Bruce's heart into the battle, and plunged after it to his death.

The casket containing the heart was later found on the battlefield, brought back to Scotland and buried in Melrose Abbey. The body of the 'good Sir James' was also returned to Scotland and buried in St. Bride's Kirk in his native valley of Douglas."2 Sir James Douglas Lord of Galloway was also known as James "The Good Sir James" Douglas.7 Sir James Douglas Lord of Galloway was also known as The Black Douglas.8

Sir James Douglas Lord of Galloway
CP He was called the Good Sir James Douglas died 1330 Lord of Douglas. He was
not an Earl. He was slain 1330.9,10

Family

Children

Citations

  1. [S1393] Unknown author, The Scottish Tartans with Historical Sketches of the Clans and Families of Scotland (Edina Works, Easter Road, Edinburgh, Scotland: W. & A. K. Johnston Ltd., 1945), p. 38. Hereinafter cited as Scottish Tartans.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir James Douglas: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00021540&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir William Douglas 'Le Hardi': http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00006200&tree=LEO
  4. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart Earls of Moray Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  5. [S1727] MichaelAnne Guido, "Guido email #2 14 Jan 2005 "Ancestry of Beatrice wife of Robert Hauley - Part Two"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 14 Jan 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Guido email #2 14 Jan 2005."
  6. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 41C-8, p. 53. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  7. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis MCS-5, line 41C-8, p. 53: Known to the Scots as "good Sir James."
  8. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis MCS-5, line 41C-8, p. 53 - known to the English as "the Black Douglas."
  9. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  10. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis MCS-5, line 41C-8, p. 53: "...he was, with Wallace and Bruce, one of the three great heroes of Scottish Independence."
  11. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Queensbury Family Page.

William de Dacre 2nd Lord Dacre, Baron Multon of Gillesland1,2

M, #5681, b. circa 1319, d. 18 July 1361
FatherSir Randolf/Ranulph de Dacre 1st Lord Dacre1,2 b. c 1290, d. b 20 Apr 1339
MotherMargaret de Multon1,2 b. 20 Jul 1300, d. 10 Dec 1361
Last Edited10 Dec 2012
     William de Dacre 2nd Lord Dacre, Baron Multon of Gillesland was buried at Lanercost Priory, co. Cumberland, England.

He was born circa 1319.1 He married Catherine Neville, daughter of Ralph de Neville 2nd Baron Neville of Raby and Alice de Audley, before 20 April 1339.1,3,4
William de Dacre 2nd Lord Dacre, Baron Multon of Gillesland died on 18 July 1361; dsp.1,2
     He was 2nd Lord (Baron) Dacre.1,2

William de Dacre 2nd Lord Dacre, Baron Multon of Gillesland
WILLIAM de DACRE, 2nd Lord (Baron) Dacre; b c 1319; fought Battle of Neville's Cross 1346, Sheriff Dumfriesshire Jan 1346/7; m by 20 April 1339 Katherine, 2nd dau of 2nd Lord (Baron) Nevill(e) (of Raby) (see ABERGAVENNY, M), and dsp July 1361.1

William de Dacre 2nd Lord Dacre, Baron Multon of Gillesland
CP 4 p. 3 William De Dacre Lord Dacre son and heir age 20 or more at his
father's death. He was at the battle of Neville's Cross 17 oct. 1346. Appointed
Sheriff of Co. Dumfries 30 Jan. 1346/7. He married Katherine 2nd dau of Sir
Ralph de Neville of Raby Co Durham by Alice dau of Sir Hugh d'Audley. He died
s.p. 18 July 1361 and was buried in Lancercost Priory. Will date 29 Sep 1359
pr. at Rose 16 Aug 1361. His wife or widow died bef. 1 Sep 1361.5

William de Dacre 2nd Lord Dacre, Baron Multon of Gillesland
William, who s. to the Barony of Dacre through his father, and to the Barony of Multon, through his mother, but d. s. p. in 1361.2

Family

Catherine Neville b. c 1319, d. b 1 Sep 1361

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Dacre Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint og 1883 edition), p. 152. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Katherine Neville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00393002&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Neville 8: p. 538. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  5. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).

Alice de Toeni1

F, #5682, b. circa 1283, d. circa 8 January 1324/25
FatherRalph VII de Toeni Lord of Flamstead, co. Hertford2,1 b. 1255, d. 27 May 1295
MotherMary (Clarissa) (?)2 d. a 1283
ReferenceGAV18 EDV18
Last Edited20 Jul 2020
     Alice de Toeni married Sir Thomas de Leyburne Knt., of Leyburn, Kent, son of William de Leybourne 1st Lord Leybourne and Juliane de Sandwich.3,2,1,4 Alice de Toeni was born circa 1283.2 She married Sir Guy de Beauchamp 10th Earl of Warwick, son of William IV de Beauchamp 9th Earl of Warwick and Maud fitz John, on 13 February 1309.3,5,2,1 Alice de Toeni married William La Zouche of Mortimer, 1st Lord Zouche, son of Robert de Mortimer and Joyce de la Zouche, before 25 February 1317.6,7,8,2,1
Alice de Toeni died circa 8 January 1324/25.3
     GAV-18 EDV-18 GKJ-19.

Alice de Toeni
Weis 86-30, 98-31 widow of Thomas Leybourne. 2nd Guy Beauchamp 3rd William
Zouche.9

Family 1

Sir Thomas de Leyburne Knt., of Leyburn, Kent d. b 30 May 1307
Child

Family 3

William La Zouche of Mortimer, 1st Lord Zouche d. 28 Feb 1336/37
Child

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited & Extinct Peerages, p. 30. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stafford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 86-30, p. 86. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas de Leyburn: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026585&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 5-5, p. 7. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  6. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 166, de MORTIMER of BURFORD 4:ii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  7. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Warwick, Brooke Family Page.
  8. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Zouche Family Page.
  9. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  10. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Clinton 6.ii: p. 219. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Juliane de Leybourne: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00135225&tree=LEO
  12. [S2286] Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, online http://oxforddnb.com/index/, https://doi.org/10.1093/ref:odnb/54433. Hereinafter cited as ODNB - Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.
  13. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=bferris&id=I7931&style=TEXT
  14. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, p. 45.
  15. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Say 9: p. 641.
  16. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joyce La Zouche: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00262807&tree=LEO
  17. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Botetourt 8: p. 137.

Joan Douglas

F, #5683, b. circa 1357
FatherJames Douglas 2nd Earl of Douglas and Mar d. 19 Aug 1388; Richardson says: "...Joan, said to be an Illegitimate daughter of James Douglas, 2nd Earl of douglas"1
ReferenceEDV17
Last Edited2 Sep 2008
     Joan Douglas married William de Dacre 5th Lord Dacre, Maron Multon of Gillesland, son of Hugh de Dacre 4th Lord Dacre, Baron Multon of Gillesland and Elizabeth Maxwell.2 Joan Douglas was born circa 1357.
     EDV-17.

Joan Douglas
She is called the Earl of Douglas. She is most likely the daughter of the 3rd
Earl of Douglas.

CP 4 p 6 He married Joan Douglas. Joan
was said to be daughter of James Earl of Douglas but that would make him a
grandfather at 29.3

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Dacre 11: p. 250. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Dacre Family Page (see MAXWELL, Bt). Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  4. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint og 1883 edition), p. 152. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.

Berchtold (?) of Swabia1

M, #5684, b. 992, d. 993
FatherHermann II (?) Duke of Swabia1 b. 950, d. b 4 May 1003
MotherGerberge/Guepa (?) de Bourgogne1,2 b. 965, d. 7 Jul 1019
Last Edited16 Jan 2020
     Berchtold (?) of Swabia was born in 992.1
Berchtold (?) of Swabia died in 993.1

Citations

  1. [S1769] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 12 Aug 2005: "Re: Count Odo/Cunegonde"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/EG8fUGArHIU/m/Kjp8At_SVwoJ) to e-mail address, 12 Aug 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 12 Aug 2005."
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gerberge de Bourgogne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120358&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Blanche de Brienne Dame de Loupeland1,2,3,4,5

F, #5685, b. circa 1252, d. 1302
FatherJean "d'Acre" de Brienne Seigneur of Chateau-du-Loir1,2,4,5,6 b. 1230, d. 1296
MotherJeanne de Châteaudun Dame de Chateau-du-Loire1,7,2,4 b. c 1227, d. 1265
ReferenceGAV19 EDV20
Last Edited14 Oct 2019
     Blanche de Brienne Dame de Loupeland was born circa 1252.8 She married Sir William/Guillaume II de Fiennes Knt., of Wendover, co. Bucks, baron de Fiennes et de Tingry, son of Sir Enguerrand/Ingelram II de Fiennes seigneur de Fiennes, baron de Tingry et Ruminghen, Lord of Wendover, of Buckinghamshire and Agnès/Isabel/Isabeau/Mahaut/Isabelle de Condé, after February 1266.1,2,8
Blanche de Brienne Dame de Loupeland died in 1302; Ravilious cites:
6. Ed Mann, "Jean de Brienne," Society of Medieval Genealogy
(www.rootsweb.com), 28 Mar 1999 (on GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com).2,8
     Reference: Genealogics cites:
     1. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald. 75
     2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:683
     3. The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H. 167.8

Blanche de Brienne Dame de Loupeland
Per Ravilious [2004]: Blanche de Brienne:
     Death: 1302[6], Dame de Loupelande, birth date more likely ca. 1252, as noted by J. C. Parsons[7]
     cf. ES III Tafel 683[2]
Spouse: William de Fiennes, of Wendover, co. Bucks.
     Death: 11 Jul 1302, Battle of Courtrai[6],[8]
Father: Enguerrand de Fiennes (-<1265)
Mother: Isabel de Conde
Marr: 1266[2]
Children: Margaret (1268-1333)
Joan (-<1309)
John (-1339)
Sources:
2. Detlev Schewennicke, "Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte
der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge," [ " European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series " ], Marburg,
Germany: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1978-1995 [3rd series], First
series by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, continued second series by
Frank, Baron Freytag von Loringhoven.
6. Ed Mann, "Jean de Brienne," Society of Medieval Genealogy
(www.rootsweb.com), 28 Mar 1999 (on GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com).
7. John Carmi Parsons, "Wives of Jean de Brienne (d. 1296)," Sept 4 1998,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, reply from Leo van de Pas, same date.
8. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," 1910 -
The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the
United Kingdom.2

Blanche de Brienne Dame de Loupeland
Per Genealogics:
     "Blanche de Brienne was born about 1252, the only child and heiress of Jean de Brienne, Grand Butler (Grand Bouteiller) of France, and his first wife Jeanne de Châteaudun, dame de Château-du-Loir, widow of Jean I, comte de Montfort. Blanche was co-heiress to her mother, from whom she inherited Loupelande in Maine.
     "In 1269 Blanche married William (Guillaume II) de Fiennes, seigneur de Fiennes et Tingry, lord of Wendover, son of Enguerrand de Fiennes, seigneur de Fiennes, lord of Wendover, and Isabeau de Condé. His other titles included Lord of Lambourne in Essex, of Chokes and Gayton in Northamptonshire, of Martock in Somerset, of Carshalton and Clapham in Surrey, and custodian of the county of Ponthieu. The settlement for the marriage had been made in February 1266/67. Their son Jean and two daughters, Joan and Margaret, would all have progeny.
     "In 1285 Blanche received the gift of twelve leafless oak stumps from Selwood Forest from King Edward I for her fuel.
     "Blanche died on an unknown date around the year 1302. Her husband William was killed on 11 July 1302 at the Battle of Courtrai."8 GAV-19 EDV-20 GKJ-21.

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brienne 1 page (de Brienne Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne1.html
  2. [S1557] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 21 Jan 2004: "Companions of the Third Crusade (was Re: Crusader ancestors (long)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 21 Jan 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 21 Jan 2004."
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Brienne 6: p. 155. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  4. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Brienne 7: p. 155.
  5. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Mortimer 7: p. 522.
  6. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_II_of_Brienne. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jeanne de Châteaudun: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026636&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Blanche de Brienne, Dame de Loupelande: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026632&tree=LEO
  9. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Fiennes.pdf: p. 4. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret de Fiennes: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026604&tree=LEO
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jean de Fiennes: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027527&tree=LEO

Hugh de Dacre 4th Lord Dacre, Baron Multon of Gillesland1,2,3

M, #5686, b. circa 1335, d. 24 December 1383
FatherSir Randolf/Ranulph de Dacre 1st Lord Dacre2,3 b. c 1290, d. b 20 Apr 1339
MotherMargaret de Multon2,3 b. 20 Jul 1300, d. 10 Dec 1361
ReferenceEDV18
Last Edited25 Mar 2003
     Hugh de Dacre 4th Lord Dacre, Baron Multon of Gillesland was buried at Lanercost Priory, co. Cumberland, England.

He was born circa 1335.2 He married Elizabeth Maxwell, daughter of John Maxwell of Caerlaverock, between 8 October 1354 and 1 July 1355.2,3
Hugh de Dacre 4th Lord Dacre, Baron Multon of Gillesland died on 24 December 1383.2
     He was 4th Lord (Baron) Dacre.2 EDV-18. He was Hugh de Dacre, who s. his brother Ralph as Lord Dacre and Lord Multon, and had summons to parliament from 1 December, 1376, to 20 August, 1383. His lordship m. Ela, dau. of Alexander, Lord Maxwell, and dying in 1282, was s. by his son.3

Hugh de Dacre 4th Lord Dacre, Baron Multon of Gillesland
HUGH DE DACRE, 4th Lord (Baron) Dacre; b c 1335; Warden W Marches 1379-March 1381/2; m between 8 Oct 1354 and 1 July 1355 Elizabeth, widow of 1st and last Earl of Atholl of the 1341 cr, and possibly dau of Sir John Maxwell of Carlaverock, (see MAXWELL, Bt) and d 24 Dec 1383.2

Hugh de Dacre 4th Lord Dacre, Baron Multon of Gillesland
CP 4 p. 5 Hugh next brother and heir was age 40 or more at brother's death,
which he was suspected of having caused. he was released from the Tower on 2
Jul 1376. He married between 8 Oct. 1354 and 1 Jul 1355 Elizabeth widow of
Sir William de Douglas, sometime Earl of Athol who died Aug 1353., dau
perhaps of Sir John Maxwell of Carlaverock co Dumfries. She died before 1 Jan.
1369/70. He died 24 Dec. 1383 and was buried in Lanercost priory.4

Family

Elizabeth Maxwell b. c 1335, d. b 1 Jan 1369/70
Child

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, ABERGAVENNY Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Dacre Family Page.
  3. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint og 1883 edition), p. 152. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  4. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  5. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Dacre Family Page (see MAXWELL, Bt).

Ralph VII de Toeni Lord of Flamstead, co. Hertford1

M, #5687, b. 1255, d. 27 May 1295
FatherRoger V de Toeni Lord of Flamstead2 b. 29 Sep 1235, d. b 12 May 1264
MotherAlice de Bohun b. bt 1230 - 1240
ReferenceGAV19 EDV19
Last Edited27 Jan 2008
     Ralph VII de Toeni Lord of Flamstead, co. Hertford was born in 1255.3,1,2 He married Mary (Clarissa) (?), daughter of Sir Robert "the Competitor" de Brus 6th Lord of Anandale, Earl of Carrick, before 1276.3,2
Ralph VII de Toeni Lord of Flamstead, co. Hertford died on 27 May 1295 at Gascony, France; per Richardson email (17 Feb 2005): Complete Peerage 12 Pt. 1 (1953): 773 (sub Tony) includes a good
account of the life of Ralph de Tony VII (born 1255, died 1295).
Regarding his death date and place of death, the following information
is provided:

"Being summoned for service in Gascony, 1294, he was taken prisoner at
Risonces, 31 March 1295, and sent to Paris ... He died, presumably as a
prisoner before 29 July 1295 in France."

The above information suggests that Ralph de Tony died as a prisoner in
Paris, France sometime before 29 July 1295. Recently while searching
through the helpful online National Archives catalogue
(http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search.asp), I found an
abstract of a document relating to Ralph de Tony's death and estate.
According to the abstract (a copy of which is presented below), the
executors of Ralph de Tony specifically state in their petition to the
king that Ralph de Tony died 27 May 1295, in Gascony, and that news of
his death reached England the following July 9th.3,1,2,4
     He was Lord of Flamstead at Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England.5 GAV-19 EDV-19 GKJ-20.

Ralph VII de Toeni Lord of Flamstead, co. Hertford
(an unknown value.)6

Family

Mary (Clarissa) (?) d. a 1283
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 243-244, de TOENI 11:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stafford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 98-30, p. 94. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  4. [S1763] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 17 Feb 2005 "C.P. Correction: Death date of Sir Ralph de Tony (died 1295)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 17 Feb 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 17 Feb 2005."
  5. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 5-5, p. 7. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  6. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  7. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited & Extinct Peerages, p. 30. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.

Mary (Clarissa) (?)1

F, #5688, d. after 1283
FatherSir Robert "the Competitor" de Brus 6th Lord of Anandale, Earl of Carrick2,3 b. 1210, d. 31 Mar 1295
ReferenceGAV19 EDV19
Last Edited21 Feb 2009
     Mary (Clarissa) (?) married Ralph VII de Toeni Lord of Flamstead, co. Hertford, son of Roger V de Toeni Lord of Flamstead and Alice de Bohun, before 1276.4,5
Mary (Clarissa) (?) died after 1283.1
     Mary (Clarissa) (?)
per Ravilious: [quote] Recently I had raised the issue of the parentage of Mary, wife of Ralph de Tony (d. 1295), and had suggested that she was very possibly of the family of Ros of Helmsley. One intriguing piece of evidence to the contrary, on which the argument for a Brus parentage is largely based, is the statement in the Complete Peerage account that Mary's son Robert was born at ' Thornby [sic], in Scotland ', presumed by many if not most to mean Turnberry Castle, stronghold of the Bruce Earls of Carrick [1].

I was fortunate in a recent fossick at the LOC to gain access to the correct volume of Placita coram Domino Rege which includes the 1297 testimony concerning Robert de Tony's claim to be 'of age'. The testimony of William de la Sale describes in detail the fact that Robert de Tony was born on 4 April 1276, "apud Thornby in Scocia" ['at Thornby in Scotland'], and that his mother Mary brought Robert to Norfolk and caused the priory of Westacre to record the facts of Robert's birth in their records [2].

I discussed this with Andrew MacEwen, who stated that this is good evidence, but that greater certainty would be provided by seeing the original Latin text. The text given in Placita coram Domino Rege is extended, so that no abbreviations need be hurdled by the present reader. Unfortunately, as Andrew pointed out, a number of scribal marks (including apostrophes) are sometimes overlooked by individuals in the transcription process. It is possible that the actual word in the text was "Thornb'y" or similar, which would presumably have been an abbreviated form of the 13th century version of 'Turnberry', but it is also possible that the word in the original text was simply 'Thornby' refering to a location other than Turnberry in Ayrshire.

Short of being able to follow through and obtain the actual document from 1297, I am inclined to agree that Mary was probably a sister of Robert de Brus, Earl of Carrick and of Richard de Brus (grantee of the lands and marriage of Ralph de Tony, father of Robert). This still leaves uncertain the reason for William de Ros and his brother Robert apparently representing the de Tony interest in the 1293 marriage contract. They were 3rd cousins (via d'Aubigny of Belvoir) to Malise, Earl of Strathearn, but I believe they were more closely allied with de Tony. Finding the surname and ancestry of Isabel, wife of William d'Aubigny of Belvoir (d. 1242) and maternal grandmother of William and Robert de Ros, will likely solve this riddle. [end quote]6

Mary (Clarissa) (?)
per Richardson: "Past discussions on the medieval genealogy newsgroup have concerned the identity and parentage of Mary, wife of Ralph de Tony, Knt. (died 1295), of Flamstead, Hertfordshire. It has been speculated that Mary, wife of Sir Ralph, was the sister of Richard de Brus, Knt., which Richard had the grant of the wardship and marriage of Ralph de Tony granted to him in 1265. If correct, then Mary de Tony would necessarily be a hitherto unidentified daughter of Robert de Brus, Knt. (died 1295), nicknamed the Competitor, lord of Annandale in Scotland, by his wife, Isabel, daughter of Gilbert de Clare, Earl of Gloucester and Hertford.

Recently I encountered a record dated 4 Edward I [1275-1276], which indicates that an assize of novel disseisin in that year was arraigned by Roger de Moeles against Richard de Brus and Ralph de Tony touching a tenement in Stanton, Cambridgeshire [Reference: Annual Report of the Deputy Keeper 45 (1885): 316]. This record may be viewed at the following weblink: http://books.google.com/books?id=fgIrAAAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA316&dq=%22Richard+de+Brus%22#PRA1-PA316,M1

The property in question was probably part of the manor of Long Stanton, Cambridgeshire, which was part of Ralph de Tony's inheritance. Presumably Ralph was still a minor in wardship, which would explain why his guardian, Richard de Brus, was involved in this legal action. Ralph de Tony was born about 1255, he being aged 22 in 1277.

As for Ralph de Tony's marriage, it appears that he married wife, Mary, in or before 1275, as their son and heir, Robert de Tony [afterwards Lord Tony], was born in April 1276 in Scotland."3 GAV-19 EDV-19 GKJ-20.

Mary (Clarissa) (?)
Christou, Weis AR7 98-30.7,8

Family

Ralph VII de Toeni Lord of Flamstead, co. Hertford b. 1255, d. 27 May 1295
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 243-244, de TOENI 11:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S2210] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 3 Jan 2008: "Mary, wife of Ralph de Tony (d. 1295) revisited"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 3 Jan 2008, per Ravilious: "Short of being able to follow through and obtain the actual document from 1297, I am inclined to agree that Mary was probably a sister of Robert de Brus, Earl of Carrick and of Richard de Brus (grantee of the lands and marriage of Ralph de Tony, father of Robert). This still leaves uncertain the reason for William de Ros and his brother Robert apparently representing the de Tony interest in the 1293 marriage contract. They were 3rd cousins (via d'Aubigny of Belvoir) to Malise, Earl of Strathearn, but I believe they were more closely allied with de Tony. Finding the surname and ancestry of Isabel, wife of William d'Aubigny of Belvoir (d. 1242) and maternal grandmother of William and Robert de Ros, will likely solve this riddle.". Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 3 Jan 2008."
  3. [S2288] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 30 July 2008: "Ralph de Tony (died 1295) and Richard de Brus"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 30 July 2008. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 30 July 2008."
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 98-30, p. 94. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  5. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stafford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  6. [S2210] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 3 Jan 2008," e-mail to e-mail address, 3 Jan 2008.
  7. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  8. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 98-30, p. 94; "...probably a Scotswoman."

Roger V de Toeni Lord of Flamstead1

M, #5689, b. 29 September 1235, d. before 12 May 1264
FatherRalph VI de Toeni Lord of Flamstead, co. Hertford2 b. s 1189, d. 29 Sep 1239
MotherPetronilla de Lacy2
ReferenceGAV20 EDV20
Last Edited14 Dec 2012
     Roger V de Toeni Lord of Flamstead married Alice de Bohun, daughter of Humphrey V de Bohun 2nd Earl of Hereford, Earl of Essex and Mahaut/Maud d'Eu de Lusignan.3,4,5 Roger V de Toeni Lord of Flamstead was born on 29 September 1235 at Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England.3,2,5 He married Isabel (?) before 1255.1,2
Roger V de Toeni Lord of Flamstead died before 12 May 1264.1,2,5
     GAV-20 EDV-20 GKJ-21. He was Lord of Flamstead at Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England.6

Roger V de Toeni Lord of Flamstead
Weis 98-29, 86-30.7 Roger V de Toeni Lord of Flamstead was also known as Roger V de Tosny Lord of Flamstead.5

Family 2

Alice de Bohun b. bt 1230 - 1240
Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 243-244, de TOENI 11. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stafford Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 98-29, p. 94. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  4. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Dromant, Abeyant, Forgeited, and Extinct Peerages, p. 57. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  5. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bohun.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  6. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 101A-3, p. 134. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  7. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  8. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 243-244, de TOENI 11:ii.
  9. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Powick 7: pp. 589-90. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.

Sir William de Dacre Baron Dacre1,2,3

M, #5690, b. 12 March 1265/66, d. before 24 August 1318
FatherRalph/Ranulph de Dacre1,2,3,4 d. 3 May 1286
MotherGeva (?)2,3,5
ReferenceGAV20 EDV21
Last Edited8 Sep 2020
     Sir William de Dacre Baron Dacre married Joane Gernet, daughter of Benet Gernet.1,3,2,6 Sir William de Dacre Baron Dacre was born on 12 March 1265/66; Burke's says b. 12 March 1265/6; Genealogics says b. 1266.7,3
Sir William de Dacre Baron Dacre died before 24 August 1318 at Lancashire, England.7
     Sir William de Dacre Baron Dacre
Per Burke's: "Sir WILLIAM de DACRE; b 12 March 1265/6; served against Scots 1304 and 1311; granted charter of freewarren in all his demesne lands at Dacre and Halton, Lancs, and licence 1307 to crenellate his mansion at Dunwalloght, Cumberland; m Joan (d 28 Nov 1324), dau and heir of Benet Gernet, forester of Lancaster Forest, of Halton, Fishwick and Eccleston, Lancs, and d just before 24 Aug 1318“.2 GAV-20 EDV-21.

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard. 152.
2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. 4:1.3


Sir William de Dacre Baron Dacre
Per Burke's: "William de Dacre, b. 1265, who in the 32nd Edward I, was in the expedition made that year into Scotland, and about the same period obtained a charter for free warren in all his demesne lands at Dacre, co. Cumberland, and at Halton, in Lancashire. In the 1st year of the next reign, he had license to encastellate his mansion at Dunwalloght in Cumberland, on the marches of Scotland, and in three years afterwards was engaged in the Scottish wars. His lordship m. Joane, dau. and heiress of Benedict Garnet, or according to some authorities, dau. of Sir William Bluet, and having been summoned to parliament as a Baron from the 28th Edward I., to the 12th Edward II., departed this life in the latter year and was s. by his son.“.1

Reference: Christou Gedcom.8 Sir William de Dacre Baron Dacre was also known as William Dacre.9

Sir William de Dacre Baron Dacre and Joan Dacre
Per ODNB: “The son of Robert and Agnes, John Harrington first Lord Harrington (c. 1281–1347), was a minor at his father's death in 1297 and his wardship was granted for five years to William Dacre. To judge by the heraldry on their tomb in Cartmel Priory church, John's wife, Joan, was Dacre's daughter.”.10

Family

Joane Gernet b. c 1266, d. 28 Nov 1324
Children

Citations

  1. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint og 1883 edition), p. 152. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  2. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Dacre Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Dacre: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139882&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ranulph de Dacre: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139879&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Geva: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139880&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joane Garnet: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139883&tree=LEO
  7. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Berners Family Page.
  8. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  9. [S790] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=zashin, Mary M. Zashin (unknown location), downloaded updated 13 Aug 2001, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=zashin&id=I5943
  10. [S2286] Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, online http://oxforddnb.com/index/, Harrington family: https://doi.org/10.1093/ref:odnb/54525. Hereinafter cited as ODNB - Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan (Dacre ?): https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00288742&tree=LEO

Joane Gernet1,2

F, #5691, b. circa 1266, d. 28 November 1324
FatherBenet Gernet1
ReferenceGAV20 EDV21
Last Edited8 Sep 2020
     Joane Gernet married Sir William de Dacre Baron Dacre, son of Ralph/Ranulph de Dacre and Geva (?).3,4,1,2 Joane Gernet was born circa 1266 at Lancashire, England.
Joane Gernet died on 28 November 1324; Burke's says s. 28 Nov 1324.1
     Reference: Genealogics cites: A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard. 152.2 GAV-20 EDV-21.

Joane Gernet
Visitations of Yorkshire says she is Anne Derwentwater.5

Family

Sir William de Dacre Baron Dacre b. 12 Mar 1265/66, d. b 24 Aug 1318
Children

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Dacre Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joane Garnet: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139883&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint og 1883 edition), p. 152. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William de Dacre: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139882&tree=LEO
  5. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  6. [S790] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=zashin, Mary M. Zashin (unknown location), downloaded updated 13 Aug 2001, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=zashin&id=I5944

Joan de Joinville1,2,3

F, #5692, b. 2 February 1285/86, d. 19 October 1356
FatherSir Peter de Joinville Knt.4,5,2,6,7 b. c 1258, d. b 8 Jun 1292
MotherJeanne de Lusignan Dame de Lusignan, de Couhe et de Peyrat4,8,5,6,7 b. c 1258, d. bt Aug 1323 - 14 Sep 1323
ReferenceGAV18 EDV18
Last Edited11 Dec 2012
     Joan de Joinville was born on 2 February 1285/86 at Ludlow, Shropshire, England.9,4,5,6,3,7 She married Sir Roger de Mortimer Knt., 8th Baron Mortimer, 1st Earl of March, son of Sir Edmund de Mortimer Knt., 7th Baron Mortimer of Wigmore and Margaret/Marguerite de Fiennes, on 20 September 1301 at Pembridge, Herefordshire, England; Weis (AR7 line 27-31), van de Pas and Ravilious say m. before 06 Oct 1306.10,11,12,4,5,3,13,6,7
Joan de Joinville died on 19 October 1356 at age 70.11,4,5,6,3,7
     Joan de Joinville
batruth@hotmail.com (Brad Verity) wrote in message news:<8ed1b63.0306250757.d951b93@posting.google.com>...

>> Nichol_storm@yahoo.com (.:Nichol:.) wrote in message news:
>>
>
>>> > Most interesting to me was an index of Mortimer's
>>> > children by Jeanne de Geneville and approximate dates of birth. A
>>> > summary:
>>> >
>>> > 1. Edmund Mortimer, born late 1302 or early 1303, died December 1331
>>> > or January 1332. He married July 27 1316 Elizabeth de Badlesmere and
>>> > had two sons.
>>> >
>>> > 2. Margaret Mortimer, born May 2 1304, died 1337. She married May 1319
>>> > Thomas de Berkeley, with issue.
>>> >
>>> > 3. Roger Mortimer, born 1305 or 1306, died before August 27 1338. He
>>> > was married by 1321 to Joan Butler, no issue.
>
>>
>> Dear Nichol,
>>
>> Thank you very much for posting these. Does Ian Mortimer give a
>> source for these birth dates, or mention a marriage date for Roger and
>> Jeanne de Geneville?
>>
>> These dates indicate their marriage took place well before "before
>> October 1306" (which is the date CP ascribes), and that the marriage
>> took place well before the wardship of the Mortimer lands came into
>> the hands of Piers Gaveston in the summer of 1304. This would also
>> make the statement in Dugdale's Monasticon incorrect - Piers never did
>> hold the marriage of Roger Mortimer, and the sum the Monasticon said
>> Mortimer paid to Piers must have been to reclaim his lands, not his
>> marriage.
>>
>> Thanks and Cheers, ------Brad


You're very welcome, Brad. On the subject of Roger and Jeanne's marriage, Ian Mortimer says on page 14 of "Greatest Traitor":

"Roger and Joan were probably betrothed in 1299 or 1300. The reason for suggesting this date is the evidence of a financial arrangement between the houses of Mortimer and Geneville. ... Large financial agreements were often accompanied by a statement of affliation between two families. If this was the case, Roger and Joan were betrothed to one another for sixteen months [from May 1300 to September 20 1301]. They were married at the Mortimer family manor of Pembridge on the eve of the feast of St Matthew the Apostle 1301 (20 September)."

A footnote on page 270 then provides the sources for this information: "See the Wigmore Annals transcribed in [B.P.] Evans's unpublished Ph.D. thesis, 'The Family of Mortimer' (original: John Rylands Library, Latin MS 215) for the details of this marriage."

I'll give the birthdate information for the first three children; I'm assuming you're interested in those, especially, as you clipped them above. For Edmund, Mortimer notes that the earliest possible birthdate is approximately nine months after his parent's marriage -- about June 1302. Since he was married by 1316 and had his own seal, he was probably old enough to inherit. Mortimer believes that he was about the same age his father was when Roger married, that is to say, fourteen, hence the late 1302 or early 1303 birthdate.

Margaret is bluntly stated in the Appendix to have been born May 2 1304; Mortimer provides no source, though he does state that the Black Book of Wigmore (BL Harley MS 1240) provides the date of her union with Thomas Berkeley, so possibly this is where he got her birthdate as well.

Roger, Jr. was married to Joan Butler in 1321, and Mortimer believes he was fourteen or fifteen at this marriage, hence the birth in 1305 or 1306. He was the inheritor of all his parents' Irish lands, but had no issue on his death. His youngest brother John received his Irish inheritance (Geoffrey having already died), but John also died without heirs.

.:Nichol:.12




Joan de Joinville
per van de Pas: "Joane was born at Ludlow Castle about 2 February 1285, the daughter of Piers de Geneville, 2nd Lord Geneville, and Jeanne de Lusignan, Dame de Couhe et de Peyrat.

In September 1301 Joane, aged sixteen, married fourteen-year-old Roger Mortimer, son of Sir Edmund Mortimer, lord of Wigmore, and Margaret de Fiennes. Joane was the eldest of three daughters. Her father Piers died in 1292, and her grandfather Geoffroy de Joinville, 1st baron de Geneville, sire de Vaucouleurs, anxious to avoid the break-up of his estates, placed her sisters Beatrice and Mathilde at Aconbury Priory. The Geneville inheritance comprised vast estates in England, Wales and Ireland.

Joane also inherited lands in France from her mother Jeanne de Lusignan who was the daughter of Hugues XII de Lusignan, comte de La Marche et d'Angoulême and grandson of Isabella d'Angoulême, the widow of King John and grandmother of Edward II.

For twenty years, Roger and Joane enjoyed a close and successful relationship. Twelve children survived into adulthood, four sons and eight daughters, and Joane accompanied Roger to Ireland during his successful career there as king's lieutenant and justiciar. This all changed in early 1322, when Roger submitted to Edward II during the king's successful campaign against the Marchers, and was imprisoned in the Tower of London. Joane herself was imprisoned in Hampshire; three of her elder daughters and three of her sons were also imprisoned.

In February 1323, Queen Isabella and Eleanor de Clare both petitioned Edward II in an apparently unsuccessful attempt to improve Joane's living conditions. Isabella referred to Joane as 'our dear and beloved cousin'.

Roger Mortimer and Joane de Geneville did not see each other again for five years. When exactly they did see each other again is unclear, but may have been in November 1326, when Roger visited his manor at Pembridge, where he and Joane had married twenty-five years earlier. By this time, Roger had been the lover of Queen Isabelle for a year or so.

Whether Joane ever visited Edward III's court, where her husband held power, is unknown. Roger occasionally travelled to the Marches unaccompanied by Isabelle or the court, which may have been visits to Joane. In early June 1328, after the wedding of two of Joane's daughters, Roger and Isabelle stayed with Joane at Ludlow Castle, which was part of Joane's inheritance from her grandfather. 1328 was an eventful year for the Mortimers, two daughters married, two sons died (John and Roger), and they became grandparents, when Elizabeth Badlesmere, wife of their eldest son Edmund, gave birth to another Roger.

It is also possible that their eldest daughter Margaret made them grandparents in the late 1320s - her eldest surviving son Maurice Berkeley was probably born in 1330, but she also had a daughter Joan, who may have been older.

In December 1328, Roger paid for nine chaplains to sing daily masses for the souls of himself, Edward III, queens Isabelle and Philippa, Joane, and their children. In August 1329, two more of their daughters were married at Wigmore, where Roger held a great Round Table tournament. Presumably Joane was present, with Isabelle and Edward III.

After Roger's execution in 1330, Joane's lands were taken into royal hands, and some were not restored until 1336, when she was finally granted a full pardon.

In 1332, Joane petitioned Edward III to have Roger's body removed from the Greyfriars church at Coventry, presumably to be re-buried at Wigmore. This suggests that she still retained much affection for her husband. She never remarried, or entered a convent.

Joane de Geneville survived Roger by more than a quarter of a century and died at the age of seventy-one, on 19 October 1356. Her husband's mistress Queen Isabelle outlived her by a mere twenty-two months. In 1354 Edward III had reversed all the charges against Roger, so Joane died as the dowager countess of March, with her twenty-eight-year-old grandson Roger Mortimer high in the king's favour, as the second Earl of March.

Shortly before she died, Joane may have heard the news that another of her grandsons, twenty-six-year-old Maurice 'the Valiant' de Berkeley - son of Thomas de Berkeley, 3rd lord Berkeley, and Joane's eldest daughter Margaret Mortimer - had distinguished himself at the Battle of Poitiers on 19 September, but had been badly wounded and taken prisoner.

At the time of her death, Joane was the grandmother of the earls of Pembroke and March, and the mother-in-law of the earl of Warwick and lords Berkeley, Charlton and Braose. She had lived long enough to be a great-grandmother several times over."6

Joan de Joinville
per Ravilious: [quote] Joan de Geneville
Birth: 2 Feb 1285[10],[7]
Death: 19 Oct 1356[7]

'Johanne', recorded as beneficiary of a fair and market at
Ludlow, 1292, as one of the 'daughters and heiresses of Peter
de Genevill'[9]

heiress of grandparents Geoffrey de Geneville and Maud de Lacy
Received title to his lands in Ireland through licence granted
for this gift, 24 Dec 1307[7]

had charter together with husband Roger de Mortimer for a fair
at Ludlow, dated 25 Nov 1328[9]

re: her husband Roger de Mortimer

of Wigmore, co. Hereford
Baron of Wigmore
tenant in chief in Thornton and Melbourne,
Harthill wapentake (East Riding), co. Yorks. [VCH III: 183[11]]

supporter of Thomas, Earl of Lancaster against King Edward II;
captured following the battle of Boroughbridge, 22 March 1321/2
and the return of the Despensers to power; sentenced to death
together with uncle Roger de Mortimer, then commuted to life
imprisonment 22 July 1322.

Escaped from the Tower 1 August 1324 and fled via Dover to France[12]

established liaison with Queen Isabella (of England) in France;
invaded England at Orwell (Suffolk) with small force from Hainaut
24 Sept 1326
defeated and executed the Despensers; deposed Edward II at
Kenilworth, January 1326/7[13]

created Earl of March Oct 1328[7]
lover of Isabella (Queen of Edward II), and conspirator in his
deposition, 1327[14].
Executed at Tyburn after palace revolution of 1330 by Edward III.[7]

His honours were forfeit by his attainder[7]

Spouse: Sir Roger de Mortimer, Earl of March
Birth: 25 Apr 1287[15]
Death: 29 Nov 1330, Tyburn (executed)[14]
Father: Sir Edmund de Mortimer (<1252-1304)
Mother: Margaret de Fiennes (1268-1333)
Marr: bef 6 Oct 1306[7]

Children: Sir Edmund (~1306-1331), Lord Mortimer
Margaret (>1307-1337)
Joan
Sir Geoffrey
Sir Roger
Katherine (-1369)
Maud
Agnes
John
Blanche
Beatrice [end quote]

Ravilious cites:
1. Paul Theroff, "The House of Champagne-Blois," Paul Theroff's Dynastic Genealogy Files, http://worldroots.com/brigitte/pther_e.html originally found at: worldroots.clicktron.com/brigitte/theroff/.
2. K. R. Potter, ed., "Gesta Stephani," Oxford: The Clarendon Press, 1976.
3. Mike Talbot, "Lusignan and Fougeres," Feb 10, 1999, , additional information and correction from Olivier Cocheril.
4. W. L. Warren, "Henry II," University of California Press, 1973, [English Monarchs Series].
5. Frederick L. Weis (add/corr, Walter L Sheppard Jr.), "Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists," Baltimore: Genealogical Pub. Co.
6. Detlev Schewennicke, "Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge," [ " European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series " ], Marburg, Germany: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1978-1995 [3rd series], First series by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, continued second series by
Frank, Baron Freytag von Loringhoven.
7. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," 1910 - [microprint, 1982 (Alan Sutton) ], The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.
8. Todd A. Farmerie, "De Lusignan/d'Eu," 14 June 1996, , additional comments and input from W. A. Reitwiesner (13 June) and Jim Stevens (2 Nov).
9. "Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs to 1516," http://www.histparl.ac.uk/cmh/gaz/
10. "Ancestors of Edmund de Mortimer," David Utzinger , 4 August 2000.
11. K. J. Allison, ed., "A History of the County of York, East Riding," Oxford: published for the Institute of Historical Research, Oxford Univ. Press, 1969, Vol. III.
12. Chris Phillips, "Re: Burial Place of Roger de Mortimer (d. 1330)," September 15, 2002, paper copy: library of John P. Ravilious, cites CP vol. VIII pp. 436-7; also Cal. Patent Rolls, 1321-4.
13. Jonathan Sumption, "The Hundred Years War," Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania Press, 1999 (first US pub. in 1991; in Britain, 1990), Vol. I: Trial by Battle.
14. David Williamson, "Brewer's British Royalty," Cassell/Wellington House, 1996.
15. Douglas Richardson, "Mortimer account," November 19, 2002, paper copy: library of John Ravilious, cites sources for history of Mortimer family, including Wigmore chronicle (in Dugdale, Monasticon Anglicanum).5

Joan de Joinville
Joan de Geneville
----------------------------------------
Birth: 2 Feb 1285[11],[8]
Death: 19 Oct 1356[8]

'Johanne', recorded as beneficiary of a fair and market at Ludlow, 1292,
as one of the 'daughters and heiresses of Peter de Genevill'[10]

heiress of grandparents Geoffrey de Geneville and Maud de Lacy
Received title to his lands in Ireland through licence granted for this
gift, 24 Dec 1307[8]

had charter together with husband Roger de Mortimer for a fair at Ludlow,
dated 25 Nov 1328[10]

Spouse: Sir Roger de Mortimer [ SEE ABOVE ]
Birth: 25 Apr 1287[13]
Death: 29 Nov 1330, Tyburn (executed)[14]
Father: Sir Edmund de Mortimer (<1252-1304)
Mother: Margaret de Fiennes (1268-1333)
Marr: bef 6 Oct 1306[8]

Children: [ SEE ABOVE ]

Sources:
1. Mike Talbot, "Lusignan and Fougeres," Feb 10, 1999,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, additional information and correction
from Olivier Cocheril.
2. Detlev Schewennicke, "Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte
der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge," [ " European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series " ], Marburg,
Germany: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1978-1995 [3rd series], First
series by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, continued second series by
Frank, Baron Freytag von Loringhoven.
3. John Gillingham, "Richard I," New Haven: Yale University Press, 1999, 129,
152 (de Camville), Yale English Monarchs series.
4. "Europaische Stammtafeln," per Janko Pavsic, email 1/19/2001 (Vol III.4,
tafel 689-690), janko_pavsic@my-deja.com; also jankopavsic@hotmail.com.
5. FranceBalade, "Les Vicomtes de Chateaudun,"
www.francebalade.com/chartres/ctdunois.htm
6. Ed Mann, "Jean de Brienne," Society of Medieval Genealogy
(www.rootsweb.com), 28 Mar 1999 (on GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com).
7. John Carmi Parsons, "Wives of Jean de Brienne (d. 1296)," Sept 4 1998,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, reply from Leo van de Pas, same date.
8. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," 1910 -
The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the
United Kingdom.
9. John Carmi Parsons, "de Fiennes de la Plaunche," Aug 30, 1998,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites the wardrobe account book of Eleanor
of Castile, queen of England, 'for the last year of her life (1289-90)',
(Parsons, _The Court and Household of Eleanor of Castile in 1290_,
[Toronto, 1977], pp. 41-55.)
10. "Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs to 1516," www.histparl.ac.uk/cmh/gaz/
11. "Ancestors of Edmund de Mortimer," David Utzinger
UTZ@aol.com, 4 August 2000.
12. "The Sources for the History of Dunamase Castle in the Medieval period,"
B.J. Hodkinson, URL: http://www.clanomore.com/dunarch.htm, cites CPR
1301-07, p. 33.
13. Douglas Richardson, "Mortimer account," November 19, 2002, paper copy:
library of John Ravilious, cites sources for history of Mortimer family,
including Wigmore chronicle (in Dugdale, Monasticon Anglicanum).
14. David Williamson, "Brewer's British Royalty," Cassell/Wellington House,
1996.
15. Chris Phillips, "Re: Burial Place of Roger de Mortimer (d. 1330),"
September 15, 2002, paper copy: library of John P. Ravilious, cites CP
vol. VIII pp. 436-7; also Cal. Patent Rolls, 1321-4.
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Pennsylvania Press, 1999 (first US pub. in 1991; in Britain, 1990), Vol.
I: Trial by Battle.
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Gen Pub Co., 5th ed., 1997 (W. L. Sheppard Jr & David Faris).
18. David Faris, "Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists,"
Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999, (2nd edition,
1999).
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royalancestry@msn.com.
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Press (East Linton, Scotland), 1997.
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Certain American Colonists," Baltimore: Genealogical Pub. Co., connection
of Isabel de Condet and Hugh Bardolf, as cited by E. Mann,
Line 132D-27,-28 in AR7, also, Descendants of Henry I of Germany
(10/30/98), Line 157 (Gerberga of Burgundy to Emperor Henry III).
22. Todd A. Farmerie, "De Lusignan/d'Eu," 14 June 1996,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, additional comments and input from W. A.
Reitwiesner (13 June) and Jim Stevens (2 Nov).4 GAV-18 EDV-18 GKJ-19.

Joan de Joinville
History of Rutland p 42
Weis 27-31, 71-32.14 Joan de Joinville was also known as Joan/Jeanne de Geneville.4,5,6,7

Joan de Joinville
van de Pas cites: 1. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 634 ; VIII 441
2. The Ancestry of Elizabeth of York, 1999 , Lewis, Marlyn, Reference: 289.6

Family

Sir Roger de Mortimer Knt., 8th Baron Mortimer, 1st Earl of March b. 25 Apr 1287, d. 29 Nov 1330
Children

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), p. 54. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  2. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Berkeley 8: p. 98.
  3. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Mortimer 8: pp. 523-524.
  4. [S1557] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 21 Jan 2004: "Companions of the Third Crusade (was Re: Crusader ancestors (long)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 21 Jan 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 21 Jan 2004."
  5. [S2016] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 15 Dec 2005: "Breaute and Geneville ancestry: King Stephen of England"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 15 Dec 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 15 Dec 2005."
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joane de Geneville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026578&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  7. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf, p.8. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  8. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Lusignan 2 page (de Lusignan Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/lusignan2.html
  9. [S1448] Todd A. Farmerie, "Farmerie email "Ancestors of Elizabeth Wentworth"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 4 June 2003, cites: "The Complete Peerage," G. E. Cokayne, 1910 - The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.
    and: "Ancestors of Edmund de Mortimer," e-mail address, 4 August 2000.. Hereinafter cited as "Farmerie email 4 June 2003."
  10. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 27-31, p. 29. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
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  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Roger Mortimer: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026577&tree=LEO
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    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
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  16. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Hastings Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
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  18. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margaret Mortimer: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026623&tree=LEO
  19. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud Mortimer: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00191853&tree=LEO
  20. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Cherleton 9: p. 198.
  21. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan Mortimer: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177405&tree=LEO
  22. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabella Mortimer: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00510290&tree=LEO

Sir Peter de Joinville Knt.1

M, #5693, b. circa 1258, d. before 8 June 1292
FatherSir Geoffrey de Joinville 1st Lord Geneville2,3 b. c 1226, d. 21 Oct 1314
MotherMaud (Matilda) de Lacy2,3 b. c 1230, d. 11 Apr 1304
ReferenceGAV19 EDV19
Last Edited12 Apr 2009
     Sir Peter de Joinville Knt. was born circa 1258.2 He married Jeanne de Lusignan Dame de Lusignan, de Couhe et de Peyrat, daughter of Hugues XII de Lusignan Comte de la Marche de Angouleme and Joanne/Jeanne de Fougères Dame de Fougères, before 11 October 1283; her 2nd husband.4,5,6,2,7,3
Sir Peter de Joinville Knt. died before 8 June 1292; dvp.8,2,3
     GAV-19 EDV-19 GKJ-20.

Sir Peter de Joinville Knt. lived at Trim, Ireland.9

Sir Peter de Joinville Knt.
Baron de Geneville

History of Rutland p 42.10 Sir Peter de Joinville Knt. was also known as Sir Piers de Geneville Baron de Geneville of Trim & Ludlow.2 Sir Peter de Joinville Knt. was also known as Sir Piers (Pierre) de Joinville Earl of Hereford, Lord of Walterston, Stranton-Lacy, Malmeshull and Salop, Baron de Genville.3

Family

Jeanne de Lusignan Dame de Lusignan, de Couhe et de Peyrat b. c 1258, d. bt Aug 1323 - 14 Sep 1323
Children

Citations

  1. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), p. 54. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  2. [S2016] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 15 Dec 2005: "Breaute and Geneville ancestry: King Stephen of England"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 15 Dec 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 15 Dec 2005."
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf, p.8. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 139, de LUSIGNAN 8:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  5. [S1557] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 21 Jan 2004: "Companions of the Third Crusade (was Re: Crusader ancestors (long)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 21 Jan 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 21 Jan 2004."
  6. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Lusignan 2 page (de Lusignan Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/lusignan2.html
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jeanne de Lusignan: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026576&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  8. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 71-32, p. 73. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  9. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named in the Magna
    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 12-5, p. 14. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  10. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  11. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Berkeley 8: p. 98.
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joane de Geneville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026578&tree=LEO
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    Mathilde de Geneville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026602&tree=LEO

Jeanne de Lusignan Dame de Lusignan, de Couhe et de Peyrat1,2,3,4,5

F, #5694, b. circa 1258, d. between August 1323 and 14 September 1323
FatherHugues XII de Lusignan Comte de la Marche de Angouleme2,3,4,6,7,5 b. bt 1237 - 1238, d. a 25 Aug 1270
MotherJoanne/Jeanne de Fougères Dame de Fougères3,4,5,6 d. a 1273
ReferenceGAV19 EDV19
Last Edited12 Apr 2009
     Jeanne de Lusignan Dame de Lusignan, de Couhe et de Peyrat was buried at Abbey de Valence.8

She was born circa 1258.3 She married Bernard Aiz IV d'Albret Seigneur d'Albret, son of Amanieu VI d'Albret Seigneur d'Albret and Mathe (?) de Bordeaux, before 1280; her 1st husband.8,5 Jeanne de Lusignan Dame de Lusignan, de Couhe et de Peyrat married Sir Peter de Joinville Knt., son of Sir Geoffrey de Joinville 1st Lord Geneville and Maud (Matilda) de Lacy, before 11 October 1283; her 2nd husband.1,3,4,6,8,5
Jeanne de Lusignan Dame de Lusignan, de Couhe et de Peyrat died between August 1323 and 14 September 1323.9,4,5
     Jeanne de Lusignan Dame de Lusignan, de Couhe et de Peyrat
Jeanne, Dame de Lusignan, de Couhe et de Peyrat 1308, +VIII-14.9.1322; m. before 1285 Sir Piers de Geneville, Baron de Geneville of Trim and Ludlow Castle (+before VIII.1292)
"     F1. Joan, *1285/86, +1356; m.Roger Mortimer, 1st Earl of March (*ca 1287, +1330.)4

Jeanne de Lusignan Dame de Lusignan, de Couhe et de Peyrat
Jeanne de Lusignan[21]
Birth: abt 1262[2]
Death: abt 14 Sep 1323[8]

' Jeanne de la Marche, Dame de Couhe et de Peyrat '
(cf. ES I, Band III Tafel 816[2])

had dower in Ludlow, co. Salop. including the market and fair:
'1292, mercatum, held by Johanna, late the wife of Peter de Genevill,
Theobald de Verdun and Johanne, Beatrice and Matilda, daughters and
heiresses of Peter de Genevill (QW, p. 678).'
'Johanna, late the wife of Peter de Genevill held part of the manor from
Godfrey de Genevill and his wife Matilda with Theobald de Verdun, of the
inheritance of Johanne, Beatrice and Matilda, daughters and heiresses of
Peter de Genevill. Johanne, Beatrice and Matilda were under age.'[10]

Summoned for military service in her husbands stead, against the King of
France, by writ directed 'Johanna que fuit uxor Petri de Geynvill',
24 May 1297.[8]

coheiress of her brother Guiard, Count of La Marche: in satisfaction of
her claim, received the reversion to her and her heirs of the castles
and chatellenies of Couhe in Poitou and Peyrat in Limousin, by charter
dated 22 Feb 1309/10 from the King of France; then also the like
reversion of the towns of St-Hilaire and Pontarion, Aug 1310[8]

Spouse: Piers de Geneville, Lord of Trim
Birth: abt 1258
Death: bef 8 Jun 1292, d.v.p.[21],[8]
Father: Geoffrey de Geneville (~1226-1314), Lord Geneville
Mother: Maud de Lacy (-1304)
Marr: bef 11 Oct 1283[11]

Children: Joan (1285-1356)
Beatrice (<1287->1291)
Maud (<1291->1291)

Sources:
1. Mike Talbot, "Lusignan and Fougeres," Feb 10, 1999,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, additional information and correction
from Olivier Cocheril.
2. Detlev Schewennicke, "Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte
der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge," [ " European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series " ], Marburg,
Germany: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1978-1995 [3rd series], First
series by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, continued second series by
Frank, Baron Freytag von Loringhoven.
3. John Gillingham, "Richard I," New Haven: Yale University Press, 1999, 129,
152 (de Camville), Yale English Monarchs series.
4. "Europaische Stammtafeln," per Janko Pavsic, email 1/19/2001 (Vol III.4,
tafel 689-690), janko_pavsic@my-deja.com; also jankopavsic@hotmail.com.
5. FranceBalade, "Les Vicomtes de Chateaudun,"
www.francebalade.com/chartres/ctdunois.htm
6. Ed Mann, "Jean de Brienne," Society of Medieval Genealogy
(www.rootsweb.com), 28 Mar 1999 (on GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com).
7. John Carmi Parsons, "Wives of Jean de Brienne (d. 1296)," Sept 4 1998,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, reply from Leo van de Pas, same date.
8. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," 1910 -
The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the
United Kingdom.
9. John Carmi Parsons, "de Fiennes de la Plaunche," Aug 30, 1998,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites the wardrobe account book of Eleanor
of Castile, queen of England, 'for the last year of her life (1289-90)',
(Parsons, _The Court and Household of Eleanor of Castile in 1290_,
[Toronto, 1977], pp. 41-55.)
10. "Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs to 1516," www.histparl.ac.uk/cmh/gaz/
11. "Ancestors of Edmund de Mortimer," David Utzinger
UTZ@aol.com, 4 August 2000.
12. "The Sources for the History of Dunamase Castle in the Medieval period,"
B.J. Hodkinson, URL: http://www.clanomore.com/dunarch.htm, cites CPR
1301-07, p. 33.
13. Douglas Richardson, "Mortimer account," November 19, 2002, paper copy:
library of John Ravilious, cites sources for history of Mortimer family,
including Wigmore chronicle (in Dugdale, Monasticon Anglicanum).
14. David Williamson, "Brewer's British Royalty," Cassell/Wellington House,
1996.
15. Chris Phillips, "Re: Burial Place of Roger de Mortimer (d. 1330),"
September 15, 2002, paper copy: library of John P. Ravilious, cites CP
vol. VIII pp. 436-7; also Cal. Patent Rolls, 1321-4.
16. "The Hundred Years War," Jonathan Sumption, Philadelphia: University of
Pennsylvania Press, 1999 (first US pub. in 1991; in Britain, 1990), Vol.
I: Trial by Battle.
17. Frederick L. Weis, Th. D., "The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215," Baltimore:
Gen Pub Co., 5th ed., 1997 (W. L. Sheppard Jr & David Faris).
18. David Faris, "Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists,"
Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999, (2nd edition,
1999).
19. Douglas Richardson, "Plantagenet," Jan 20, 2003, email
royalancestry@msn.com.
20. "The Comyns: Robert the Bruce's Rivals, 1212-1314," Alan Young, Tuckwell
Press (East Linton, Scotland), 1997.
21. Frederick L. Weis (add/corr, Walter L Sheppard Jr.), "Ancestral Roots of
Certain American Colonists," Baltimore: Genealogical Pub. Co., connection
of Isabel de Condet and Hugh Bardolf, as cited by E. Mann,
Line 132D-27,-28 in AR7, also, Descendants of Henry I of Germany
(10/30/98), Line 157 (Gerberga of Burgundy to Emperor Henry III).
22. Todd A. Farmerie, "De Lusignan/d'Eu," 14 June 1996,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, additional comments and input from W. A.
Reitwiesner (13 June) and Jim Stevens (2 Nov).3

Jeanne de Lusignan Dame de Lusignan, de Couhe et de Peyrat
per Ravilious: [quote] Jeanne de Lusignan [5]
Birth: abt 1262[6]
Death: abt 14 Sep 1323[7]

' Jeanne de la Marche, Dame de Couhe et de Peyrat ' (cf. ES I, Band III Tafel 816[6])

had dower in Ludlow, co. Salop. including the market and fair: '1292, mercatum, held by Johanna, late the wife of Peter de Genevill, Theobald de Verdun and Johanne, Beatrice and Matilda, daughters and heiresses of Peter de Genevill (QW, p. 678).'

'Johanna, late the wife of Peter de Genevill held part of the manor from Godfrey de Genevill and his wife Matilda with Theobald de Verdun, of the inheritance of Johanne, Beatrice and Matilda, daughters and heiresses of Peter de Genevill. Johanne, Beatrice and Matilda were under age.'[9]

Summoned for military service in her husbands stead, against the King of France, by writ directed 'Johanna que fuit uxor Petri de Geynvill', 24 May 1297.[7]

coheiress of her brother Guiard, Count of La Marche: in satisfaction of her claim, received the reversion to her and her heirs of the castles and chatellenies of Couhe in Poitou and Peyrat in Limousin, by charter dated 22 Feb 1309/10 from the King of France; then also the like reversion of the towns of St-Hilaire and Pontarion, Aug 1310[7]

Spouse: Piers de Geneville, Lord of Trim [Ireland]
Birth: abt 1258
Death: bef 8 Jun 1292, d.v.p.[5],[7]
Father: Geoffrey de Geneville (~1226-1314)
Mother: Maud de Lacy (-1304)
Marr: bef 11 Oct 1283[10]

Children: Joan (1285-1356)
Beatrice (<1287->1291)
Maud (<1291->1291) [end quote]

Ravilious cites:
1. Paul Theroff, "The House of Champagne-Blois," Paul Theroff's Dynastic Genealogy Files, http://worldroots.com/brigitte/pther_e.html originally found at: worldroots.clicktron.com/brigitte/theroff/.
2. K. R. Potter, ed., "Gesta Stephani," Oxford: The Clarendon Press, 1976.
3. Mike Talbot, "Lusignan and Fougeres," Feb 10, 1999, , additional information and correction from Olivier Cocheril.
4. W. L. Warren, "Henry II," University of California Press, 1973, [English Monarchs Series].
5. Frederick L. Weis (add/corr, Walter L Sheppard Jr.), "Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists," Baltimore: Genealogical Pub. Co.
6. Detlev Schewennicke, "Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge," [ " European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series " ], Marburg, Germany: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1978-1995 [3rd series], First series by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, continued second series by
Frank, Baron Freytag von Loringhoven.
7. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," 1910 - [microprint, 1982 (Alan Sutton) ], The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.
8. Todd A. Farmerie, "De Lusignan/d'Eu," 14 June 1996, , additional comments and input from W. A. Reitwiesner (13 June) and Jim Stevens (2 Nov).
9. "Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs to 1516," http://www.histparl.ac.uk/cmh/gaz/
10. "Ancestors of Edmund de Mortimer," David Utzinger , 4 August 2000.
11. K. J. Allison, ed., "A History of the County of York, East Riding," Oxford: published for the Institute of Historical Research, Oxford Univ. Press, 1969, Vol. III.
12. Chris Phillips, "Re: Burial Place of Roger de Mortimer (d. 1330)," September 15, 2002, paper copy: library of John P. Ravilious, cites CP vol. VIII pp. 436-7; also Cal. Patent Rolls, 1321-4.
13. Jonathan Sumption, "The Hundred Years War," Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania Press, 1999 (first US pub. in 1991; in Britain, 1990), Vol. I: Trial by Battle.
14. David Williamson, "Brewer's British Royalty," Cassell/Wellington House, 1996.
15. Douglas Richardson, "Mortimer account," November 19, 2002, paper copy: library of John Ravilious, cites sources for history of Mortimer family, including Wigmore chronicle (in Dugdale, Monasticon Anglicanum).6

Jeanne de Lusignan Dame de Lusignan, de Couhe et de Peyrat
van de Pas cites: 1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.), Reference: III/1 151; III/4 816
2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: V 632.8 GAV-19 EDV-19 GKJ-20.

Jeanne de Lusignan Dame de Lusignan, de Couhe et de Peyrat
(an unknown value.)10

Family 2

Sir Peter de Joinville Knt. b. c 1258, d. b 8 Jun 1292
Children

Citations

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    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 12-5, p. 14. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
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    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joane de Geneville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026578&tree=LEO
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jeanne de Lusignan: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026576&tree=LEO
    Mathilde de Geneville: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026602&tree=LEO

Sir Geoffrey de Joinville 1st Lord Geneville

M, #5695, b. circa 1226, d. 21 October 1314
FatherSimon de Joinville Senechal of Champagne1,2 b. c 1180, d. c Apr 1233
MotherBeatrix (?) d'Auxonne-Bourgogne3 d. 11 Apr 1260
ReferenceGAV20 EDV20
Last Edited15 Jun 2020
     Sir Geoffrey de Joinville 1st Lord Geneville was born circa 1226 at Trim, Ireland.4 He married Maud (Matilda) de Lacy, daughter of Gilbert de Lacy of Ewyas Harold, Co. Hereford and Isabel (Isabella) le Bigod, before 8 August 1252.4,5
Sir Geoffrey de Joinville 1st Lord Geneville died on 21 October 1314 at Trim, Ireland.6,5
     He was Lord of Trim at co. Trim, Ireland.4 He was Lord of Ludlow at Shropshire, England.4 GAV-20 EDV-20 GKJ-21. He was Sire de Vaucouleurs.4 He was 1st Lord Geneville.7

Sir Geoffrey de Joinville 1st Lord Geneville
History of Rutland p 42.8

Sir Geoffrey de Joinville 1st Lord Geneville
Weis MCS 12-4.7
Sir Geoffrey de Joinville 1st Lord Geneville was a witness to the Per Med Lands:
     "BEATRIX d'Auxonne (-20 Mar 1261, bur La Charité). Her first and second marriages are indicated by the testament of her daughter "Agnetis dominæ Fuciniaci", dated 9 Aug 1268, which made bequests to "dominæ Beatrici dominæ de Thoria et Villario sorori suæ et filiis suis…Simoni de Joinville dom. de Jaiz fratri suo"[219]. Her parentage is indicated by the charter dated Jul 1225 under which "Simon seigneur de Joinville, sénéchal de Champagne" reached an agreement with "Jean de Chalon son beau-frère"[220]. It is confirmed by the charter dated 1227 under which "Simon de Joinville, comme mari de Béatrix, fille d'Etienne comte d'Auxonne et de Béatrix comtesse de Chalon" swore homage to the duke of Burgundy for the château de Marnay[221]. Dame de Marnay. "Simon seigneur de Joinville, sénéchal de Champagne" donated property to Molesme, with the consent of "sa femme Béatrix", by charter dated 1224[222]. "Beatrix dame de Joinville executrice testamentaire de Simon sire de Joinville son mari mort l'année précédente" donated property to the abbey of Boulancourt by charter dated Feb 1235[223]. “Jehans cuens de Bourgoingne et sires de Salins” confirmed the donation to the abbey of la Charité made by “Beatris ma suer dame de Marnay” and by “Simon son fil seignour de Jays” by charter dated Dec 1255[224]. The necrology of the abbey of La Charité records the death “XIII Kal Apr” 1260 of “Beatricis filiæ comitis Stephani in conventu dominæ de Mernay”[225].
     "m firstly (1210, separated) as his first wife, AIMON [II] Seigneur de Faucigny, son of HENRI Seigneur de Faucigny & his wife Comtesson de Genève (-[Apr/Oct] 1253).
     "m secondly (before 1224) as his second wife, SIMON Seigneur de Joinville, son of GEOFFROI [IV] Seigneur de Joinville & his wife Helvide de Dampierre (-May 1233). Sénéchal de Champagne 1224."
Med Lands cites:
[219] State Archives, volume 104, page 22, fascicules 15, and Wurstenberger (1858), Vol. IV, 764, p. 443.
[220] Delaborde, Seigneurs de Joinville, Actes, 245, p. 297, citing Collection de Laubespin.
[221] Delaborde, Seigneurs de Joinville, Actes, 254, p. 300, citing mention V, f. 90 r, d'après les arch. de la Chambre des comptes de Dijon, Fiefs du comté.
[222] Delaborde, Seigneurs de Joinville, Actes, 242, p. 297, citing Arch. de la Côte-d'Or, copie Bibl. nat. Coll. Duchesne, vol 20, p. 339.
[223] Boulancourt, p. 59.
[224] Guillaume (1757), Tome I, Preuves, p. 165.
with Beatrix (?) d'Auxonne-Bourgogne and Aymon II (?) Sire de Faucigny.9

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Simon de Joinville: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026597&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
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  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrice d'Auxonne-Bourgogne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026598&tree=LEO
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    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), Line 17C-4, p. 23. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  5. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 120, de LACY 10:iv. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
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    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 71-30, p. 73. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
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    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
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Maud (Matilda) de Lacy1

F, #5696, b. circa 1230, d. 11 April 1304
FatherGilbert de Lacy of Ewyas Harold, Co. Hereford b. bt 1191 - 1200, d. bt 12 Aug 1230 - 25 Dec 1230
MotherIsabel (Isabella) le Bigod b. 1210
ReferenceGAV20 EDV20
Last Edited12 Apr 2009
     Maud (Matilda) de Lacy was born circa 1230.1 She married Piers (Pierre) de Geneva, son of Humbert (?) Comte de Geneva and Anne (?) di Savoie, before 15 May 1244.2,1 Maud (Matilda) de Lacy married Sir Geoffrey de Joinville 1st Lord Geneville, son of Simon de Joinville Senechal of Champagne and Beatrix (?) d'Auxonne-Bourgogne, before 8 August 1252.3,1
Maud (Matilda) de Lacy died on 11 April 1304.1
     GAV-20 EDV-20 GKJ-21.

Maud (Matilda) de Lacy
(an unknown value.)4

Family 1

Piers (Pierre) de Geneva d. b 29 Jun 1249

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 120, de LACY 10:iv. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
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    Charta, 1215 and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America
    During the Early Colonial Years, 5th Edition
    (Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishine Co., Inc., unknown publish date), line 12-4, p. 14. Hereinafter cited as Weis MCS-5.
  3. [S633] With additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr. and William R. Beall Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis MCS-5, Line 17C-4, p. 23.
  4. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  5. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I2402
  6. [S812] e-mail address, updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I2403
  7. [S2016] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 15 Dec 2005: "Breaute and Geneville ancestry: King Stephen of England"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 15 Dec 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 15 Dec 2005."
  8. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf, p.8. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Hugues XII de Lusignan Comte de la Marche de Angouleme1,2,3,4

M, #5697, b. between 1237 and 1238, d. after 25 August 1270
FatherHugues XI "le Brun" de Lusignan Comte de la Marche et Angouleme,Comte de Ponthieu2,5,6,3 b. c 1221, d. Apr 1250
MotherYolande de Dreux Cts de Penthievre et de Porhoet2,5,3 b. 1218, d. 10 Oct 1272
ReferenceGAV20 EDV20
Last Edited12 Apr 2009
     Hugues XII de Lusignan Comte de la Marche de Angouleme was born between 1237 and 1238.7,2,4 He married Joanne/Jeanne de Fougères Dame de Fougères, daughter of Raoul III de Fougeres Sire de Fougères, Brittany and Isabeau/Isabelle de Craon, between 29 January 1253 and 1254.8,1,9,2,5,3,4
Hugues XII de Lusignan Comte de la Marche de Angouleme was buried circa 1270 at La Couronne, France.1


Hugues XII de Lusignan Comte de la Marche de Angouleme died after 25 August 1270; Genealogy.EU (Lusignan2 page) says d. btw 25.8.1270-1282.8,1,2,5,3
     GAV-20 EDV-20 GKJ-21.

Hugues XII de Lusignan Comte de la Marche de Angouleme
Hugues XII, Seigneur de Lusignan, de Couhe et de Peyrat, Comte de la Marche et d'Angouleme IV.1250, *ca 1235/40, +btw 25.8.1270-1282; m.after 1250 Jeanne (+1269), dau.of Raoul III, Seigneur de Fougeres.2 He was Count de la Marche and Angouleme.10

Hugues XII de Lusignan Comte de la Marche de Angouleme
van de Pas cites: 1. The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H., Reference: page 72, 81.
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.), Reference: III/4 816.3

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 139, de LUSIGNAN 8. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Lusignan 2 page (de Lusignan Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/lusignan2.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues XII de Lusignan: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013428&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf, p.8. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  5. [S2016] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 15 Dec 2005: "Breaute and Geneville ancestry: King Stephen of England"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 15 Dec 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 15 Dec 2005."
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues XI 'le Brun' de Lusignan: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013427&tree=LEO
  7. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/lusignan2.html
  8. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), lin 135-31, p. 119. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  9. [S1557] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 21 Jan 2004: "Companions of the Third Crusade (was Re: Crusader ancestors (long)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 21 Jan 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 21 Jan 2004."
  10. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  11. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Albret 1 page (The Family of d'Albret): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/foix/albret1.html

Joanne/Jeanne de Fougères Dame de Fougères1,2,3,4,5

F, #5698, d. after 1273
FatherRaoul III de Fougeres Sire de Fougères, Brittany2,3,6,4,7,8 b. c 1198, d. bt 24 Feb 1256 - 1257
MotherIsabeau/Isabelle de Craon2,6,4,9,10 b. a 1223, d. a 15 Jan 1275
ReferenceGAV20 EDV20
Last Edited20 Mar 2020
     Joanne/Jeanne de Fougères Dame de Fougères married Hugues XII de Lusignan Comte de la Marche de Angouleme, son of Hugues XI "le Brun" de Lusignan Comte de la Marche et Angouleme,Comte de Ponthieu and Yolande de Dreux Cts de Penthievre et de Porhoet, between 29 January 1253 and 1254.11,1,2,3,12,13,4
Joanne/Jeanne de Fougères Dame de Fougères died after 1273.2,12
     Joanne/Jeanne de Fougères Dame de Fougères
Jeanne de Fougeres[21]
----------------------------------------
Death: aft 1273[2]

heiress of Fougeres[8]

cf. ES I, Band III Tafel 816[2]

Spouse: Hugh XII de Lusignan, comte de La Marche et de Angouleme
Death: aft 25 Aug 1270[2],[22]
Father: Hugh XI 'le Brun' de Lusignan (1221-1250)
Mother: Yolande de Dreux (1218-1272)
Marr: 29 Jan 1253[2],[21]

Children: Yolande (1257-1314)
Hugh XIII (1259-1303), comte de La Marche et de Angouleme
Jeanne (~1262-~1323)
Marie (1269-1312)
Isabelle (1269-1303)
Guy (1270-<1308)

Sources:
1. Mike Talbot, "Lusignan and Fougeres," Feb 10, 1999,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, additional information and correction
from Olivier Cocheril.
2. Detlev Schewennicke, "Europäische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte
der Europäischen Staaten, Neue Folge," [ " European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series " ], Marburg,
Germany: Verlag von J. A. Stargardt, 1978-1995 [3rd series], First
series by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, continued second series by
Frank, Baron Freytag von Loringhoven.
3. John Gillingham, "Richard I," New Haven: Yale University Press, 1999, 129,
152 (de Camville), Yale English Monarchs series.
4. "Europaische Stammtafeln," per Janko Pavsic, email 1/19/2001 (Vol III.4,
tafel 689-690), janko_pavsic@my-deja.com; also jankopavsic@hotmail.com.
5. FranceBalade, "Les Vicomtes de Chateaudun,"
www.francebalade.com/chartres/ctdunois.htm
6. Ed Mann, "Jean de Brienne," Society of Medieval Genealogy
(www.rootsweb.com), 28 Mar 1999 (on GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com).
7. John Carmi Parsons, "Wives of Jean de Brienne (d. 1296)," Sept 4 1998,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, reply from Leo van de Pas, same date.
8. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," 1910 -
The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the
United Kingdom.
9. John Carmi Parsons, "de Fiennes de la Plaunche," Aug 30, 1998,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites the wardrobe account book of Eleanor
of Castile, queen of England, 'for the last year of her life (1289-90)',
(Parsons, _The Court and Household of Eleanor of Castile in 1290_,
[Toronto, 1977], pp. 41-55.)
10. "Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs to 1516," www.histparl.ac.uk/cmh/gaz/
11. "Ancestors of Edmund de Mortimer," David Utzinger
UTZ@aol.com, 4 August 2000.
12. "The Sources for the History of Dunamase Castle in the Medieval period,"
B.J. Hodkinson, URL: http://www.clanomore.com/dunarch.htm, cites CPR
1301-07, p. 33.
13. Douglas Richardson, "Mortimer account," November 19, 2002, paper copy:
library of John Ravilious, cites sources for history of Mortimer family,
including Wigmore chronicle (in Dugdale, Monasticon Anglicanum).
14. David Williamson, "Brewer's British Royalty," Cassell/Wellington House,
1996.
15. Chris Phillips, "Re: Burial Place of Roger de Mortimer (d. 1330),"
September 15, 2002, paper copy: library of John P. Ravilious, cites CP
vol. VIII pp. 436-7; also Cal. Patent Rolls, 1321-4.
16. "The Hundred Years War," Jonathan Sumption, Philadelphia: University of
Pennsylvania Press, 1999 (first US pub. in 1991; in Britain, 1990), Vol.
I: Trial by Battle.
17. Frederick L. Weis, Th. D., "The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215," Baltimore:
Gen Pub Co., 5th ed., 1997 (W. L. Sheppard Jr & David Faris).
18. David Faris, "Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists,"
Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1999, (2nd edition,
1999).
19. Douglas Richardson, "Plantagenet," Jan 20, 2003, email
royalancestry@msn.com.
20. "The Comyns: Robert the Bruce's Rivals, 1212-1314," Alan Young, Tuckwell
Press (East Linton, Scotland), 1997.
21. Frederick L. Weis (add/corr, Walter L Sheppard Jr.), "Ancestral Roots of
Certain American Colonists," Baltimore: Genealogical Pub. Co., connection
of Isabel de Condet and Hugh Bardolf, as cited by E. Mann,
Line 132D-27,-28 in AR7, also, Descendants of Henry I of Germany
(10/30/98), Line 157 (Gerberga of Burgundy to Emperor Henry III).
22. Todd A. Farmerie, "De Lusignan/d'Eu," 14 June 1996,
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, additional comments and input from W. A.
Reitwiesner (13 June) and Jim Stevens (2 Nov).2

Joanne/Jeanne de Fougères Dame de Fougères lived at Fougeres, Brittany, France.1 GAV-20 EDV-20 GKJ-21. Joanne/Jeanne de Fougères Dame de Fougères was also known as Jehanne de Fougères Dame de Fougères.6

Joanne/Jeanne de Fougères Dame de Fougères
(an unknown value.)14

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 139, de LUSIGNAN 8. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
  2. [S1557] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 21 Jan 2004: "Companions of the Third Crusade (was Re: Crusader ancestors (long)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 21 Jan 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 21 Jan 2004."
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Lusignan 2 page (de Lusignan Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/lusignan2.html
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Angouleme.pdf, p.8. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  5. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Craon.pdf, p. 4.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jehanne de Fougères: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00064492&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raoul III de Fougères: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139855&tree=LEO
  8. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/brittnpr.htm#RaoulIIIFougeresdied1256. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabelle de Craon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139856&tree=LEO
  10. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Craon, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Craon.pdf
  11. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), lin 135-31, p. 119. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  12. [S2016] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 15 Dec 2005: "Breaute and Geneville ancestry: King Stephen of England"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 15 Dec 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 15 Dec 2005."
  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues XII de Lusignan: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013428&tree=LEO
  14. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).

Sir William "le Hardi" Douglas 5th of Douglas1,2,3

M, #5699, b. after 24 April 1235, d. before 24 January 1296
FatherSir William Douglas 3rd Chief of Douglas4,5,6 b. 1200, d. 1274
MotherConstance de Bataille5
ReferenceGAV21 EDV20
Last Edited19 Aug 2019
     Sir William "le Hardi" Douglas 5th of Douglas married Margaret Mar. Sir William "le Hardi" Douglas 5th of Douglas was born after 24 April 1235.5,7 He married Elizabeth Stewart, daughter of Alexander Dundonald Stewart 4th High Steward of Scotland and Jean (?) of Bute.8,5,3 Sir William "le Hardi" Douglas 5th of Douglas married Alianore/Eleanor de Louvaine, daughter of Matthew de Louvaine of Little Easton, Essex and Bildeston, Suffolk and Helisant de Perche, before 28 January 1289; her 2nd husband; his 2nd (?) wife.2,5,3,7
Sir William "le Hardi" Douglas 5th of Douglas died before 24 January 1296 at London, City of London, Greater London, England; d a prisoner of the English in London.4,8,3
Sir William "le Hardi" Douglas 5th of Douglas died between 1297 and 1299 at Tower of London, London, City of London, Greater London, England; Ravilious says bef 24 Jan 1298, Tower of London and cites: G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," 1910 - [microprint, 1982 (Alan Sutton) ], The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.2,7
     GAV-21 EDV-20.

Sir William "le Hardi" Douglas 5th of Douglas
(an unknown value.)9

Family 1

Margaret Mar b. c 1270

Family 2

Elizabeth Stewart b. 1244, d. 1289
Children

Family 3

Alianore/Eleanor de Louvaine d. a 3 May 1326
Children

Citations

  1. [S1393] Unknown author, The Scottish Tartans with Historical Sketches of the Clans and Families of Scotland (Edina Works, Easter Road, Edinburgh, Scotland: W. & A. K. Johnston Ltd., 1945), p. 38. Hereinafter cited as Scottish Tartans.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brabant 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brabant/brabant2.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir William Douglas 'Le Hardi': http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00006200&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Queensbury Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  5. [S1727] MichaelAnne Guido, "Guido email #2 14 Jan 2005 "Ancestry of Beatrice wife of Robert Hauley - Part Two"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 14 Jan 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Guido email #2 14 Jan 2005."
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir William Douglas: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00021537&tree=LEO
  7. [S2098] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 7 Sept 2006: "Re: CP Correction: Helisant 'du Perche', wife of Matthew de Lovaine"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 7 Sept 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 7 Sept 2006."
  8. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart Earls of Moray Family Page.
  9. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir James Douglas: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00021540&tree=LEO

Sir William Douglas 3rd Chief of Douglas

M, #5700, b. 1200, d. 1274
FatherArchibald Douglas 2nd Chief of Douglas1,2 d. a 1238
ReferenceGAV22 EDV21
Last Edited19 Aug 2019
     Sir William Douglas 3rd Chief of Douglas married Constance de Bataille, daughter of William de Bataille and Constance de Flamville.3 Sir William Douglas 3rd Chief of Douglas was born in 1200; per Guido b. 1200; pr Burke's b. ca 1240.1,3
Sir William Douglas 3rd Chief of Douglas died in 1274.1
     Sir William Douglas 3rd Chief of Douglas
Sir WILLIAM DOUGLAS, 3rd of Douglas; b 1240; d 1274, leaving, with an er s (Hugh, dsp by 1289) and a dau (Willelma, m 1st William, Stn Chief of the GALBRAITHs (see STRATHCLYDE, B); m 2nd Gilbert of Butternock (in right of his w) and with him was probably ancestor of the Dukes of Abercorn, qv).1

Sir William Douglas 3rd Chief of Douglas
van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: IV 432.4

Sir William Douglas 3rd Chief of Douglas
(an unknown value.)5 GAV-22 EDV-21. He was living in 1240.4

Family 1

Child

Family 2

Constance de Bataille
Child

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Queensbury Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Archibald of Douglas: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00021535&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1727] MichaelAnne Guido, "Guido email #2 14 Jan 2005 "Ancestry of Beatrice wife of Robert Hauley - Part Two"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 14 Jan 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Guido email #2 14 Jan 2005."
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir William Douglas: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00021537&tree=LEO
  5. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).