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      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Nachkommen Gorms des Alten 1978. , S. Otto Brenner, Reference: 158.¹

     Poppo (?) von Andechs, Bishop of Bamberg died on 11 December 1245.¹
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Nachkommen Gorms des Alten 1978. , S. Otto Brenner, Reference: 158.¹

     Hedwig (?) von Krain und Istrien married Hermann I von Windberg Graf von Windberg, Ratelberg, Winzenburg, Markgraf von Sachsen, son of Meginhard IV (?) Graf, Vogt von Niederaltach and Mathilde (?) von Reinhausen,
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His 2nd (?) wife.^3,1,4,5
Hedwig (?) von Krain und Istrien died on 1 December 1162 at Kloster Windberg, Germany (now).¹
     Reference: Genealogics cites:

; Per Med Lands:
     "HEDWIG (-[Kloster Windberg 1 Dec 1162]). The Historia Welforum refers to the two daughters of "Poponem marchionem", specifying that they married "unam Bertholfo comiti de Andehse, aliam Alberto comiti de Bogen"[281]. The De Advocatis Altahensibus names "Hadwigam" as wife of "Aschwinus…comes de Bogen…dicitur Adilpertum comitem", specifying that her husband was "advocatus Altahensis ecclesie"[282]. Her supposed first marriage has not yet been corroborated by primary sources. Wegener records that Hadewich, widow of Graf Heriman, donated property to Göttweig with her son Heriman by charter dated [1122], witnessed by Adalbert son of Markgraf Luitpold[283], but this does not link her to the Hedwig who was the wife of Graf Adalbert. "Adalbertum comitem uxoremque eius Hadwicam de Windeberge" donated property to Oberaltaich[284]. The necrology of Oberaltaich records the death "Kal Dec" of "Hadewic coma"[285]. Both of these necrology entries refer to the widow of Graf Hermann, who in particular was clearly linked to Windberg, but do not provide proof that she was the same person as the widow of Graf Adalbert. [Emphasai added by GA Vaut]
     "[m firstly as his second wife, HERMANN [I] Graf von Windberg, Ratelberg und Winzenburg, Markgraf von Sachsen, son of MEGINHARD [IV] Graf Vogt von Niederaltaich [Formbach] & his wife Mathilde von Reinhausen (-Vornbach 1122).]
     "m [secondly] as his second wife, ADALBERT [II] Graf von Bogen, son of ADALBERT [I] & his wife Luitgard von Regensburg (-13 Jan 1146)."
Med Lands cites:

; Per Med Lands:
     "HERMANN von Windberg, son of MEGINHARD IV Vogt von Niederaltaich [Formbach] & his wife Mathilde von Reinhausen (-Vornbach 1122). According to the 14th century Genealogia comitum Neuburgensium sive Formbacensium, "Meginhardus frater senioris Tiemonis genuit Oudalricum, Hermannum provincie comitem et Chunradum"[1557], although it appears incorrect that their father was brother of "senioris Tiemonis". Graf von Windberg 1097. The Codex Traditionum of Formbach monastery records a donation by "domnus Odalricus de Windeperge frater domni Herimanni", and names "Thiemo avus suus"[1558]. The Codex Traditionum of Formbach monastery records a dispute with Suben monastery, and names "due…sorores Touta et Himildrud…nobilissimis" and "filios Meginhardi comitis Odalricum et Hermannum ac filios Tiemonis Ekkebertum et Heinricum et domnam Itam"[1559]. Graf von Windberg 1097. Graf von Ratelberg 1107. Graf von Winzenburg 1109. Markgraf 1112. Markgraf von Sachsen 1114. He founded Kloster Reinhausen 1108. The Annales Reicherspergenses record the death in 1122 of "Hermannus comes provincialis"[1560]. The Auctarium Claustroneoburgense records the death in 1122 of "Hermannus comes provincialis de Saxonia"[1561]. The Annales Stadenses record that "comitis Burchardi de Lucken" killed "lantgravius Hermannus de Wincenburg"[1562].
     "m firstly ---. The primary source which confirms this first marriage has not been identified.
     "m secondly HEDWIG, daughter of --- (-Kloster Windberg 1 Dec 1162). The Codex Traditionum of Formbach monastery records a donation by "Comes Chonradus de Ratelinberg…per manum patrui sui comitis Hermanni de Windeperge", which names the latter´s wife "cometissa Haedewic cum filio suo Herimanno"[1563]. Wegener records that Hadewich, widow of Graf Heriman, donated property to Göttweig with her son Heriman by charter dated [1122], witnessed by Adalbert son of Markgraf Luitpold[1564]. The necrology of Windberg records the death "Kal Dec 1162" of "Hadewich coma et fundatrix loci huius"[1565]. The necrology of Oberaltaich records the death "Kal Dec" of "Hadewic coma"[1566]. It is possible that she was Hedwig of Carniola and Istria, daughter of Poppo II Marchese di Carniola e Istria & his wife Richgard von Sponheim, who married [secondly] ([1123]) as his second wife, Adalbert [II] Graf von Bogen. The Historia Welforum refers to the two daughters of "Poponem marchionem", specifying that they married "unam Bertholfo comiti de Andehse, aliam Alberto comiti de Bogen"[1567]. The De Advocatis Altahensibus names "Hadwigam" as wife of "Aschwinus…comes de Bogen…dicitur Adilpertum comitem", specifying that her husband was "advocatus Altahensis ecclesie"[1568]. The primary source which specifies clearly that the wife of Graf Adalbert was the widow of Graf Hermann has not so far been identified, although the [1122] charter referred to above suggests that this might be correct."
Med Lands cites:

     Hermann I von Windberg Graf von Windberg, Ratelberg, Winzenburg, Markgraf von Sachsen married Hedwig (?) von Krain und Istrien, daughter of Poppo III (?) Markgraf von Krain & Istrien and Richgard (?) von Sponheim,
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His 2nd (?) wife.^4,5,1,2 Hermann I von Windberg Graf von Windberg, Ratelberg, Winzenburg, Markgraf von Sachsen married NN (?) Countess of Everstein
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His 1st wife (per Wikipedia and Wikipedia (DE) which call her "a countess of Everstein". Med Lands says he had a 1st marriage, but doesn't name his 1st wife.^4,2,6 Hermann I von Windberg Graf von Windberg, Ratelberg, Winzenburg, Markgraf von Sachsen was born circa 1083.⁷
Hermann I von Windberg Graf von Windberg, Ratelberg, Winzenburg, Markgraf von Sachsen died in 1122 at Vornbach, Germany (now); Genealogics and Med Lands say d. 1122. Wikipedia says d. 1137 or 1138.^8,4,2
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "HEDWIG (-[Kloster Windberg 1 Dec 1162]). The Historia Welforum refers to the two daughters of "Poponem marchionem", specifying that they married "unam Bertholfo comiti de Andehse, aliam Alberto comiti de Bogen"[281]. The De Advocatis Altahensibus names "Hadwigam" as wife of "Aschwinus…comes de Bogen…dicitur Adilpertum comitem", specifying that her husband was "advocatus Altahensis ecclesie"[282]. Her supposed first marriage has not yet been corroborated by primary sources. Wegener records that Hadewich, widow of Graf Heriman, donated property to Göttweig with her son Heriman by charter dated [1122], witnessed by Adalbert son of Markgraf Luitpold[283], but this does not link her to the Hedwig who was the wife of Graf Adalbert. "Adalbertum comitem uxoremque eius Hadwicam de Windeberge" donated property to Oberaltaich[284]. The necrology of Oberaltaich records the death "Kal Dec" of "Hadewic coma"[285]. Both of these necrology entries refer to the widow of Graf Hermann, who in particular was clearly linked to Windberg, but do not provide proof that she was the same person as the widow of Graf Adalbert. [Emphasai added by GA Vaut]
     "[m firstly as his second wife, HERMANN [I] Graf von Windberg, Ratelberg und Winzenburg, Markgraf von Sachsen, son of MEGINHARD [IV] Graf Vogt von Niederaltaich [Formbach] & his wife Mathilde von Reinhausen (-Vornbach 1122).]
     "m [secondly] as his second wife, ADALBERT [II] Graf von Bogen, son of ADALBERT [I] & his wife Luitgard von Regensburg (-13 Jan 1146)."
Med Lands cites:

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 16:37.¹ EDV-26.

; This is the same person as ”Herman I, Count of Winzenburg” at Wikipedia and as ”Hermann I. von Winzenburg” at Wikipedia (DE).^4,6

; Per Med Lands:
     "HERMANN von Windberg, son of MEGINHARD IV Vogt von Niederaltaich [Formbach] & his wife Mathilde von Reinhausen (-Vornbach 1122). According to the 14th century Genealogia comitum Neuburgensium sive Formbacensium, "Meginhardus frater senioris Tiemonis genuit Oudalricum, Hermannum provincie comitem et Chunradum"[1557], although it appears incorrect that their father was brother of "senioris Tiemonis". Graf von Windberg 1097. The Codex Traditionum of Formbach monastery records a donation by "domnus Odalricus de Windeperge frater domni Herimanni", and names "Thiemo avus suus"[1558]. The Codex Traditionum of Formbach monastery records a dispute with Suben monastery, and names "due…sorores Touta et Himildrud…nobilissimis" and "filios Meginhardi comitis Odalricum et Hermannum ac filios Tiemonis Ekkebertum et Heinricum et domnam Itam"[1559]. Graf von Windberg 1097. Graf von Ratelberg 1107. Graf von Winzenburg 1109. Markgraf 1112. Markgraf von Sachsen 1114. He founded Kloster Reinhausen 1108. The Annales Reicherspergenses record the death in 1122 of "Hermannus comes provincialis"[1560]. The Auctarium Claustroneoburgense records the death in 1122 of "Hermannus comes provincialis de Saxonia"[1561]. The Annales Stadenses record that "comitis Burchardi de Lucken" killed "lantgravius Hermannus de Wincenburg"[1562].
     "m firstly ---. The primary source which confirms this first marriage has not been identified.
     "m secondly HEDWIG, daughter of --- (-Kloster Windberg 1 Dec 1162). The Codex Traditionum of Formbach monastery records a donation by "Comes Chonradus de Ratelinberg…per manum patrui sui comitis Hermanni de Windeperge", which names the latter´s wife "cometissa Haedewic cum filio suo Herimanno"[1563]. Wegener records that Hadewich, widow of Graf Heriman, donated property to Göttweig with her son Heriman by charter dated [1122], witnessed by Adalbert son of Markgraf Luitpold[1564]. The necrology of Windberg records the death "Kal Dec 1162" of "Hadewich coma et fundatrix loci huius"[1565]. The necrology of Oberaltaich records the death "Kal Dec" of "Hadewic coma"[1566]. It is possible that she was Hedwig of Carniola and Istria, daughter of Poppo II Marchese di Carniola e Istria & his wife Richgard von Sponheim, who married [secondly] ([1123]) as his second wife, Adalbert [II] Graf von Bogen. The Historia Welforum refers to the two daughters of "Poponem marchionem", specifying that they married "unam Bertholfo comiti de Andehse, aliam Alberto comiti de Bogen"[1567]. The De Advocatis Altahensibus names "Hadwigam" as wife of "Aschwinus…comes de Bogen…dicitur Adilpertum comitem", specifying that her husband was "advocatus Altahensis ecclesie"[1568]. The primary source which specifies clearly that the wife of Graf Adalbert was the widow of Graf Hermann has not so far been identified, although the [1122] charter referred to above suggests that this might be correct."
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     Berthold I (?) Pfalzgraf of Bavaria, Graf an der Oberen Isar was born circa 940.² He married unknown (?) of Upper-Lorraine, daughter of Fredrick I (?) Duke of Upper-Lorraine and Béatrice/Beatrix (?) Princess of France, circa 965.^4,2

Berthold I (?) Pfalzgraf of Bavaria, Graf an der Oberen Isar died circa 26 August 990.^1,2
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: I 8.¹

     Otto I (?) Graf von Scheyern und von Dachau married NN von Ratzenhofen, daughter of Eberhard von Ratzenhofen and Mathilde von Reipertshofen.^8,1

Otto I (?) Graf von Scheyern und von Dachau died circa 4 March 1123; Leo van de Pas says d. bef 1106; Wettin 1 page says d. 1107/8 or 1121/2.^2,1
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 1.1 90.¹ Otto I (?) Graf von Scheyern und von Dachau was also known as Otto III von Scheyern Graf von Scheyern, Pfalzgraf von Bayern.⁵

; Per Med Lands:
     "OTTO [III] von Scheyern, son of EKKEHART Graf von Scheyern & his wife Richgard of Carniola and Istria (-22 Aug [1123], bur Indersdorf). Wegener cites a source dated [1095] which names "Otto filius Ekihardi"[829]. The Chronicon Schirense names "Otto et Oudalricus fraters de Schyren" specifying "postea castrum Wittelenspech possederunt"[830]. “Domnus Hodalricus advocatus ecclesiæ nostræ” donated property “Imichinhovin...Zimuvafin vel Werda...” to Freising church, with the consent of “fratris sui Ottonis”, by undated charter dated to the late 11th/early 12th century, witnessed by “Otto frater advocati, iterum comes Otto de Sciren, comes Ekkiperht...”[831]. Graf von Scheyern. Vogt von Fischbachau 1102. Vogt von Freising: “Perchtoldo de Esgilbach” exchanged property with Freising church, in the presence of “Ottonis advocatis et filii sui Ottonis”, by undated charter dated to the early 12th century[832]. Graf von Wittelsbach 1115. Pfalzgraf of Bavaria 1110-1120. Otto Bishop of Freising confirmed an exchange of property, confirmed by “Otto Palatinus comes senior et filius eius Otto”, by undated charter, witnessed by “...Chunrat de Dahhove...Purchart de Moseburch...”[833]. He founded the Abbey of Scheyern [1119]. The necrology of Freising Weihenstephan records the death "XI Kal Sep" of "Otto com"[834].
     "m ---. The primary source which confirms the identity of Otto’s wife has not been identified. It is possible that she was named Kunigunde, as the necrology of Undensdorf records the death "IV Id Jul" of "Chunegunt com"[835]. This necrology records almost exclusively members of the Wittelsbach family and this entry cannot be linked to any other known person in the family. "
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     Richgardis (?) von Krain married Ekkehard I von Scheyern Graf von Scheyern, son of Otto I (?) von Wittelsbach, Graf an der Paar, Graf von Scheyern and NN von Andechs.^3,5,4

Richgardis (?) von Krain died before 1128.⁴
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Richgardis (?) von Krain was also known as Richgard (?) of Carniola and Istria.^6,4

; Per Med Lands:
     "RICHGARD (-before 1128). The Historia Welforum refers to the four daughters of "Sophia ex duce Maginone", specifying that "terciam…duxit dux Maravie, quartam quam Egenhardus comes de Scirin a quodam monaterio…in Ratispona abstulit"[292]. It is clear from many other sources that Zsófia and her second husband Magnus of Saxony only had two daughters, Wulfhild and Eilika. It is assumed therefore that the two other daughters referred to were her children by her first marriage with Ulrich of Istria, although the primary source which confirms this clearly has not yet been identified. While there appears to be some confusion in this text, it does clarify that the daughter of Zsófia of Hungary married Graf Ekkehard not his brother Graf Otto, the latter being favoured by Wegener[293]. The primary source which names her has not yet been identified, although the necrology of Undensdorf records the death "XII Kal Jun" of "Wichart coma"[294] which may refer to Richgard.
     "m EKKEHARD Graf von Scheyern, son of OTTO [I] Graf von Scheyern [Wittelsbach] & his second wife Hazziga [Hadagunda] von Scheyern (-before 1088, bur Fischbachau, transferred 1127 to Scheyern)."
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; Per Med Lands:
     "EKKEHARD von Scheyern, son of OTTO [I] Graf von Scheyern & his second wife Haziga [Hadagunda] von Scheyern (-20 Jun ----, before 1088, bur Fischbachau, transferred 1127 to Scheyern). The Chronicon Schirense names (in order) "Ottonem, Pernhardum et Ekkardum comites" as the three sons of "comiti Ottoni de Schyren" and his wife Haziga[909]. Graf von Scheyern, Vogt von Fischbachau und Weihenstephan. Vogt of Freising Cathedral. The necrology of Undensdorf records the death "XII Kal Jul" of "Ekkehardus com" and his donation of property at "Ilhdorf"[910].
     "m RICHGARD of Carniola and Istria, daughter of ULRICH I Marchese di Carniola e Istria & his wife Zsófia of Hungary ([1063/70]-). The Historia Welforum refers to the four daughters of "Sophia ex duce Maginone", specifying that "terciam…duxit dux Maravie, quartam quam Egenhardus comes de Scirin a quodam monaterio…in Ratispona abstulit"[911]. It is clear from many other sources that Zsófia and her second husband Magnus of Saxony only had two daughters, Wulfhild and Eilika. It is assumed therefore that the two other daughters referred to were her children by her first marriage with Ulrich of Istria, although the primary source which corroborates this clearly has not so far been identified. While there appears to be some confusion in this text, it does clarify that the daughter of Zsófia of Hungary married Graf Ekkehart not his brother Graf Otto, the latter being favoured by Wegener[912]. The primary source which names her has not so far been identified, although the necrology of Undensdorf records the death "XII Kal Jun" of "Wichart coma"[913] which may refer to Richgard. "
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     Heinrich I (?) Graf an der Pegnitz, Gf von Schweinfurt married NN von Sualafeld/Altdorf, daughter of Kuno I (?) Graf von (?).^2,7
Heinrich I (?) Graf an der Pegnitz, Gf von Schweinfurt was born circa 992.²
Heinrich I (?) Graf an der Pegnitz, Gf von Schweinfurt died in 1043.^2,7
     GAV-25.

; Per Genealogy.EU: "Graf Heinrich I an der Pegnitz, Gf von Schweinfurt, *ca 992, +1043; m.N von Sualafeld/Altdorf."²


Reference: Genealogics cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: I 8.⁸

; Per Med Lands:
     "HEINRICH, son of [HEINRICH Graf von Schweinfurt Markgraf auf dem Bayerischen Nordgau & his wife Gerberga [von Hammerstein]] (-after 1043). Wegener argues that Heinrich was the son of Markgraf Heinrich as his county lay in the Markgrafschaft Nordgau, but he does identify any more specific source on which his suggestion is based[1319]. Graf an der Pegnitz 1021/43. "Heinricus…rex" confirmed rights in "abbatiam Bargi in pago Nortgouue in comitatu Henrici comitis" to the church of Bamberg by charter dated 12 Jan 1025[1320]. "Heinricus…rex" donated property "Rotenuels in pago Ufgowi in comitatu Adalberti comitis" to the church of Speyer left to him by "Heinricus comes" by charter dated 6 Jun 1041[1321]. "Heinricus…rex" donated property "quatuor mansos Tragesindorf, Mogenriut, Mazelinesriut…et Bilingesriut…in pago…Nortgowe in comitatu Heinrici comitis" to "Beringero eius fideli militi" by charter dated 14 Apr 1043[1322]. "Heinricus…rex" granted property "quale domna Adalheit eiusque filius Gebehardus comes…in villis Wormerischa, Hegina, Fvrhenriet…in pago Nortgove et in comitatu Heinrici comitis" to "ministro nostro Pardoni" by charter dated 28 Nov 1043[1323]. Graf an der oberen Naab 1043.
     "m ---. Wegener suggests that the wife of Graf Henrich [I] was --- im Sualafeld, daughter of KUNO [II] Graf im Sualafeld & his wife ---, to explain why Heinrich's son was named Kuno[1324].
     "Graf Heinrich & his wife had [three] children."
Med Lands cites: He was living in 1021.¹

     Burkhard (?) von Schweinfurt, Bishop of Halberstadt died in 1059.¹
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: I 8.¹

     Eberhard II (?) von Hengebach, Vogt von Hoven married Jutta (?) von Jülich, daughter of Wilhelm I (?) Graf von Jülich, circa 1170.^3,1

     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 6:33.¹ Eberhard II (?) von Hengebach, Vogt von Hoven was living in 1170.¹

     Eberhard (?) Graf im Niederlahngau, Graf in der Ortenau married Wiltrud (?)^5,1

Eberhard (?) Graf im Niederlahngau, Graf in der Ortenau died between 902 and 903.¹
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: 1.1 8.¹

     Wiltrud (?) married Eberhard (?) Graf im Niederlahngau, Graf in der Ortenau, son of Udo (?) Graf im Lahngau and Judith (?).^1,2

Wiltrud (?) died after 902; mentioned in 902.¹
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: 1.1 8.¹

     Udo (?) Graf im Lahngau married Judith (?), daughter of Konrad I 'the Elder' (?) Count of Auxerre, Graf in Argengau und Linzgau and Aelis/Adelaide (?) de Tours.^7,1,8
Udo (?) Graf im Lahngau was born circa 835.⁹
Udo (?) Graf im Lahngau died in 879.¹
     GAV-33.

; Per Genealogics:
     "About his children see note by Konrad der Ältere.
     "Udo was a ninth-century nobleman of East Francia, a son of Gebhard, Graf im Lahngau, and older brother of Berengar I of Neustria. He and his brother were afforded their position in the march of Neustria both by kinship to Adalard, seneschal of the empire, and the favour of the West Frankish king Charles 'the Bald', the future Holy Roman Emperor.
     "With his brothers Berengar and Waldo, the abbot of the Abbey of St. Maximin at Trier, Udo took part in the 861 revolt of Karlmann, king of Bavaria and Italy, against his father Ludwig II 'the German', king of the East-Franks. The revolt was crushed and the three brothers fled with their relative Adalard to the court of Charles 'the Bald', who granted them wardship of the march against the Vikings while the march against the Bretons was granted to Rutpert IV 'the Strong', Graf in Wormsgau.
     "Charles' patronage of the family provoked the jealousy of the Rorgonids, the most powerful family local to Neustria and then controlling the _ducatis Cenomannicus_ (Maine). In 865 they allied with Saloman of Brittany and attacked the brothers. Charles, to regain peace, took the march back and gave it to Gauzfrid of Maine, a Rorgonid.
     "A charter of 879 mentions Udo and his brothers taking part in the foundation of the college of Gemünden. Evidently, the death of Ludwig II 'the German' in 876 had allowed them to return to the court of Karlmann.
     "It is not recorded when Udo died, but it was after 879. By his wife Judith he left at least four sons of whom Konrad der Ältere, Eberhard and Gebhard would have progeny. His son Rudolf would become bishop of Würzburg."⁹

; Per Med Lands:
     "UDO, son of GEBHARD Graf im Niederlahngau & his wife ---. Graf im Lahngau. 860/879.
     "m ---. The identity of Udo's wife is not known with certainty. According to Jackman[160], she may have been [Judith], daughter of Konrad Graf im Linz- und Argengau. King Arnulf in a charter dated 19 May 891 names "Chonradi…comitis et nepotis nostri"[161]. The speculation is that the relationship may have been through Konrad's mother who, if identified as the daughter of Konrad Graf im Linz- under Argengau, was the niece of King Arnulf's paternal grandmother Queen Hemma. However, an interesting puzzle is highlighted by the charter dated 10 Feb 910 under which "Hludouuicus…rex" confirmed the foundation of St Georg at Limburg-an-der-Lahn at the request of "Chuonrati ducis et fidelis neptis nostri, cuidam Chuonrato…comiti nostro filio Eberhardi in pago Loganahe in suo comitatu"[162]. "Chuonrati ducis et fidelis neptis nostri…" in this document is identified as the future Konrad I King of Germany, and therefore the son of Konrad who is named in the 891 charter. The two documents are therefore consistent in this respect when both are described as "nepotis" of King Arnulf and King Ludwig IV. However, "…cuidam Chuonrato…comiti nostro filio Eberhardi" is identified as Konrad "Kurzbold", son of Eberhard (killed in [902/03]) who is identified in other sources (as explained below) as the brother of the senior Konrad who is named in the 891 charter. The problem is that Konrad "Kurzbold" is not identified, either in the 910 charter or in other documentation in which he is named, as "nepos" of either of the Carolingian monarchs. One explanation could be that Konrad and Eberhard were born from different marriages of their father. "
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Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: 1.1 8.⁹ He was living in 860; mentioned in 860.¹

     Judith (?) married Udo (?) Graf im Lahngau, son of Gebhard (?) Graf im Lahngau and (?) (?) im Nordgau.^1,4,2

      ; Per Med Lands:
     "[JUDITH]. The identity of Udo's wife is not known with certainty. According to Jackman[1788], she may have been the daughter of Konrad Graf im Linz- und Argengau, whom he speculates was named Judith. King Arnulf in a charter dated 19 May 891 names "Chonradi…comitis et nepotis nostri"[1789]. The speculation is that the relationship may have been through Konrad's mother who, if identified as the daughter of Graf Konrad, was the niece of King Arnulf's paternal grandmother Queen Hemma. m UDO Graf im Lahngau, son of GEBHARD Graf im Niederlahngau [Konradiner] & his wife ---. 860/879.]"
Med Lands cites: GAV-33.

Reference: Genealogics cites:

     Gebhard (?) Graf im Lahngau married (?) (?) im Nordgau, daughter of Unknown (?).^2,3

Gebhard (?) Graf im Lahngau died after 879.¹
     GAV-31.

; Per Genealogics: "Gebhard was a mid-9th century count in the Lahngau and the first documented ancestor of the dynasty later known as the Conradines. He was a 'leading man of the (East) Franks' and a brother-in-law of Ernst, margrave of the Bavarian Nordgau. In 838 Gebhard allied with Poppo of Grapfeld and Otgar, archbishop of Mainz, against the rebellious Ludwig II 'the German', king of the East-Franks, and in favour of his father Emperor Louis I 'the Pious'. By an unnamed wife, Gebhard had at least four sons, Udo, Waldo, Bertulf and Berengar, who all rose to prominent positions in West Francia. However only Udo is recorded with progeny. Gebhard died in or after 879."⁴


; Per Med Lands:
     "[GEBHARD (-after 879). Jackman suggests that Gebhard (ancestor of the Konradiner) was the brother of Ermentrude, first wife Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks, therefore the son of Eudes Comte d'Orléans[141]. However, this appears chronologically dubious if Gebhard is identified with "Gebehardus" who founded Kloster Kettenbach, as recorded in the charter of "Ludowicus…rex" dated 31 Mar [845] in which the king donated land in "in pago Logonense iuxta fluvium Arda" to the monastery[142], unless he was born from an earlier marriage of his father. Nevertheless, an interesting possible corroboration for Gebhard's relationship with this family is provided by the Annales Bertiniani which record that "Adalardo Yrmintrudis reginæ avunculo" was "propinquo" of the brothers Udo (ancestor of the Franconian Konradiner family), Berengar and Waldo who were expelled from Germany in 865[143], and in a later passage that "Adalardo…et suis propinquis Hugonis et Berengario" fought the Vikings in 865[144]. "Adalardo" was Adalhard [III], maternal uncle of Gebhard assuming the relationship is as shown here, and the brothers Udo, Berengar and Waldo were Gebhard's sons.
     "m --- [im Nordgau], sister of Graf ERNST, daughter of ---. The relationship between the sons of Gebhard and Graf Ernst is clarified by the Annales Bertiniani which record that "nepotes ipsius [Ernestus]" were expelled from the kingdom in 861[145]. If the suggestion by Jackman concerning Gebhard's affiliation is correct, Gebhard would have been the brother-in-law not brother of Ernest, married to the latter's sister.] "
Med Lands cites:

Reference: Genealogics cites: Die Nachkommen Karls des Grossen 1995, Neustadt an der Aisch , Erich Brandenburg, Reference: 92.⁴

; Per Med Lands:
     "daughter . The relationship between the sons of Gebhard and Ernst is clarified by the Annales Bertiniani which record that "nepotes ipsius [Ernestus]" were expelled from the kingdom in 861[86]. If the suggestion by Jackman concerning Gebhard's affiliation (see below) is correct, he would have been the brother-in-law not brother of Ernst [I], married to the latter's sister.
     "m GEBHARD, son of [EUDES Comte d'Orléans & his wife Engeltrudis ---] (-after 879). Jackman suggests that Gebhard (ancestor of the Konradiner) was the brother of Ermentrude, first wife Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks, therefore the son of Eudes Comte d'Orléans and his wife Engeltrudis[87]. However, this appears chronologically doubtful if Gebhard is identified with "Gebehardus" who founded Kloster Kettenbach, as recorded in the charter of "Ludowicus…rex" dated 31 Mar [845] in which the king donated property "in pago Heinriche villam…Lierschiet" to Kloster Kettenbach "in pago Logonense iuxta fluvium Arda" by "vir…fidelisque noster Gebehardus" by charter dated 31 Mar 845[88]. Graf im Niederlohngau, east of Frankfurt-am-Main in the Aardbergen[89]. Nevertheless, an interesting possible corroboration for Gebhard's relationship with the Konradiner family is provided by the Annales Bertiniani which record that "Adalardo Yrmintrudis reginæ avunculo" was "propinquo" of the brothers Udo (ancestor of the Franconian Konradiner family), Berengar and Waldo who were expelled from Germany in 865[90], and in a later passage that "Adalardo…et suis propinquis Hugonis et Berengario" fought the Vikings in 865[91]. "Adalardo" was Adalhard [I], maternal uncle of Gebhard assuming the relationship is as shown here, and the brothers Udo, Berengar and Waldo were of course Gebhard's sons. Graf im Niederlahngau. Monk at Gemünden 879."
Med Lands cites:

     Konrad der Ältere von der Lahngau Graf im Oberlahngau, Hessengau, Gotzfeldgau married Glismut (?)^5,1

Konrad der Ältere von der Lahngau Graf im Oberlahngau, Hessengau, Gotzfeldgau died on 27 February 906 at near Fritzlar, Germany (now); killed in battle.¹
      ; Per Genealogics:
     “His parentage is not certain. According to Europaische Stammtafeln, Volume 1.1 Tafel 8, he and his brothers, Eberhard, Gerhard and Rudolf, are possible children of Udo, Graf im Lahngau. However, these four brothers are recorded definitely as sons of Udo, Graf im Lahngau, and his wife Judith, in Erich Brandenburg's 'Die nackkommen des Karls des Grossen', with a reference to Donald C. Jackmann's 'The Konradiner', published in 1990.”.¹

; This is the same person as ”Conrad, Duke of Thuringia” at Wikipedia and as ”Konrad der Ältere (Konradiner)” at Wikipedia (DE).^6,7 He was Graf in der Wetterau, in Wormsgau, Markgraf in Thuringen.⁸ GAV-34.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: 1.1 8.¹

; Per Med Lands:
     "KONRAD ([845/60]-killed in battle near Fritzlar 27 Feb 906, bur Weilburg Martinskirche). Regino names "Chuonradus senior [et] frater eius Gebehardus", specifying that Konrad resided in Hessen at Friedeslar[164]. His birth date range is estimated from other estimated birth date ranges of members of the family and the known dates of Konrad's own career. Graf im Oberlahngau 886. "Arnolfus…rex" granted property "in comitatu Nordgauensis…in villa Yebinesheim" to the church of Speyer at the request of "Chuonradi comitis ministerialisque" by charter dated 3 Feb 891[165]. Regino specifies that the dukedom of "Boppo dux Thuringorum" was given to "Chuonrado" in 892 and soon after to "Burchardo comitis"[166]. "Conradum, patrem Conradi postea regis" is named in the Annalista Saxo, when recording his quarrel with Adalbert [Babenberg] and Heinrich of Saxony[167]. The Annales Alammanicorum record that in 903 "Adalbertus Chonradum bello occidit"[168]. Graf im Hessengau 897. "Adelbero…Augustensis ecclesiæ…præsul" donated property to Lorsch "in pago Rinigouue in comitatum Gebehardi" by charter dated 20 May [896/99], signed by "Cunrado, Walahone, Gebehardo, Ruperto, Liutfrido, Burkardo, Dragebodo comitibus"[169]. Graf im Gotzfeldgau 903: "Hludowicus…rex" confirmed privileges to the bishopric of Würzburg by charter dated 9 Jul 903 at the request (among others) of "comitum…Chonrati…" and which related to property "in pago Cozfelda in comitatu Chonrati"[170]. "Hludowicus…rex" confirmed property of Stift Kaiserswerth naming "Cuonrat…propinquus noster et abba cœnobii sancti Suithberti" at the request of "comitum…Cuonrati…et Gebeharti" by charter dated 3 Aug 904[171]. A charter dated 14 Jun 904 records an agreement between Hatto Archbishop of Mainz and the abbot of Riamnis "in manum…suique advocate Burkardi…comitis" relating to property "in locis Wilheim, Pisinga et Vosinga", signed by "Adelbertus comes, Arnolfus comes, Cunradus comes, Erinfridus comes, Liutfridus comes"[172]. Graf in der Wetterau 905. Graf im Wormsgau 906: "Hludowicus…rex" confirmed property of the church of Worms including "res in pago Wormazfelde in comitatu Kuonrati" which "comes Gebehartus" held, by charter dated 2 Sep 906[173]. Regino records that "Chuonradus comes" sent "filium suum Chuonradum" against "Gerardum et fratrem eius Matfridum" in 906[174]. Markgraf in Thuringia[175]. Regino records the death in battle "906 III Kal Mar" of "Chuonradus senior" and his burial "in castello Wileneburch" by "filii cum matre" (without naming them)[176].
     "m GLISMOD, daughter of --- (-26 Apr 924). "Chuonradus…rex" made a donation of property "in pago Husitin et in comitatu Bardonis…curtem Dribura…et in pago Loganacgouue…in comitatu Ottonis fratris nostri" to Kloster Fulda on the intervention of "genitricis nostræ Glismodæ" by charter dated 1 Jul 912[177]. Jackman speculates[178] that Glismod must have been related to the earlier dukes in Thuringia, which would have given her husband a hereditary claim to the dukedom which he held briefly, postulating that she was the daughter of a sister of Duke Thakulf[179]. This assumes the grant depended on some hereditary right and was not merely a reward for personal service. The Annales Necrologici Fuldenses record the death "VI Kal Mai 924" of "Glismuot com"[180]."
Med Lands cites:

; Per Genealogy.EU (Wetterau): “A1. Konrad "der Ältere" von der Lahngau, Gf im Oberlahngau, Hessengau, Gotzfeldgau, +k.a.nr Fritzlar 27.2.906; m.Glismodis”.^9,2

     Glismut (?) married Konrad der Ältere von der Lahngau Graf im Oberlahngau, Hessengau, Gotzfeldgau, son of Udo (?) Graf im Lahngau and Judith (?).^2,3

Glismut (?) died on 26 April 924.¹
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "KONRAD ([845/60]-killed in battle near Fritzlar 27 Feb 906, bur Weilburg Martinskirche). Regino names "Chuonradus senior [et] frater eius Gebehardus", specifying that Konrad resided in Hessen at Friedeslar[164]. His birth date range is estimated from other estimated birth date ranges of members of the family and the known dates of Konrad's own career. Graf im Oberlahngau 886. "Arnolfus…rex" granted property "in comitatu Nordgauensis…in villa Yebinesheim" to the church of Speyer at the request of "Chuonradi comitis ministerialisque" by charter dated 3 Feb 891[165]. Regino specifies that the dukedom of "Boppo dux Thuringorum" was given to "Chuonrado" in 892 and soon after to "Burchardo comitis"[166]. "Conradum, patrem Conradi postea regis" is named in the Annalista Saxo, when recording his quarrel with Adalbert [Babenberg] and Heinrich of Saxony[167]. The Annales Alammanicorum record that in 903 "Adalbertus Chonradum bello occidit"[168]. Graf im Hessengau 897. "Adelbero…Augustensis ecclesiæ…præsul" donated property to Lorsch "in pago Rinigouue in comitatum Gebehardi" by charter dated 20 May [896/99], signed by "Cunrado, Walahone, Gebehardo, Ruperto, Liutfrido, Burkardo, Dragebodo comitibus"[169]. Graf im Gotzfeldgau 903: "Hludowicus…rex" confirmed privileges to the bishopric of Würzburg by charter dated 9 Jul 903 at the request (among others) of "comitum…Chonrati…" and which related to property "in pago Cozfelda in comitatu Chonrati"[170]. "Hludowicus…rex" confirmed property of Stift Kaiserswerth naming "Cuonrat…propinquus noster et abba cœnobii sancti Suithberti" at the request of "comitum…Cuonrati…et Gebeharti" by charter dated 3 Aug 904[171]. A charter dated 14 Jun 904 records an agreement between Hatto Archbishop of Mainz and the abbot of Riamnis "in manum…suique advocate Burkardi…comitis" relating to property "in locis Wilheim, Pisinga et Vosinga", signed by "Adelbertus comes, Arnolfus comes, Cunradus comes, Erinfridus comes, Liutfridus comes"[172]. Graf in der Wetterau 905. Graf im Wormsgau 906: "Hludowicus…rex" confirmed property of the church of Worms including "res in pago Wormazfelde in comitatu Kuonrati" which "comes Gebehartus" held, by charter dated 2 Sep 906[173]. Regino records that "Chuonradus comes" sent "filium suum Chuonradum" against "Gerardum et fratrem eius Matfridum" in 906[174]. Markgraf in Thuringia[175]. Regino records the death in battle "906 III Kal Mar" of "Chuonradus senior" and his burial "in castello Wileneburch" by "filii cum matre" (without naming them)[176].
     "m GLISMOD, daughter of --- (-26 Apr 924). "Chuonradus…rex" made a donation of property "in pago Husitin et in comitatu Bardonis…curtem Dribura…et in pago Loganacgouue…in comitatu Ottonis fratris nostri" to Kloster Fulda on the intervention of "genitricis nostræ Glismodæ" by charter dated 1 Jul 912[177]. Jackman speculates[178] that Glismod must have been related to the earlier dukes in Thuringia, which would have given her husband a hereditary claim to the dukedom which he held briefly, postulating that she was the daughter of a sister of Duke Thakulf[179]. This assumes the grant depended on some hereditary right and was not merely a reward for personal service. The Annales Necrologici Fuldenses record the death "VI Kal Mai 924" of "Glismuot com"[180]."
Med Lands cites:

; Per Genealogy.EU (Wetterau): “A1. Konrad "der Ältere" von der Lahngau, Gf im Oberlahngau, Hessengau, Gotzfeldgau, +k.a.nr Fritzlar 27.2.906; m.Glismodis”.^5,4

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: 1.1 8.² Glismut (?) was also known as Glismod (?)⁴ GAV-34.

     Konrad I von der Lahngau Emperor Elect was born between 875 and 885.² He married Kunigunde (?) von Schwaben, daughter of Erchanger I (?) Graf von Schwaben and Gisela (?), in 913
;
Her 2nd husband.^8,9,10,4,1,2
Konrad I von der Lahngau Emperor Elect died on 23 December 918; Med Lands says d. 19 Oct or 23 Dec 918.^4,1,2
Konrad I von der Lahngau Emperor Elect was buried after 23 December 918 at Dom Sankt Salvator, Fulda, Landkreis Fulda, Hessen, Germany; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     881
     DEATH     12 Dec 918 (aged 36–37), Hessen, Germany
     German King, eldest son of Konrad the Elder of Fritzlar and his wife Glismut, daughter of emperor Arnulf of Carinthia.
     Family Members
     Spouse
          Kunigunde of Swabia 882–915
     BURIAL     Dom Sankt Salvator, Fulda, Landkreis Fulda, Hessen, Germany
     PLOT     cenotaph
     Created by: Lutetia
     Added: 28 Feb 2012
     Find a Grave Memorial 85872997.^3,11
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "KUNIGUNDE (-after 7 Jun 914, bur Kloster Lorsch). Her two marriages are confirmed by the Annales Alamannicorum which record the marriage in 913 of "sororem [Erchangeri] Liupoldi relictam" with the king[41]. Her second husband arranged their marriage in an unsuccessful attempt to ally himself with her brother and with Arnulf Duke of Bavaria[42]. "Chuonradus…rex" granted rights to Kloster Lorsch by charter dated 7 Jun 914 which names "coniugis nostre Chunigunde regine"[43]. "Chuonradus…rex" confirmed grants of property "sue locum Ginga" to Kloster Lorsch by "coniux nostra Chunigund" by charter dated 8 Feb 915[44].
     "m firstly [as his second wife,] LIUTPOLD Markgraf [Luitpoldinger], son of --- (-killed in battle near Pressburg 4 Jul 907).
     "m secondly (913) KONRAD I King of Germany, son of KONRAD Graf in der Wetterau und im Wormsgau, Markgraf in Thuringia [Konradiner] & his wife Glismut (-19 Oct 918, bur Fulda). "
Med Lands cites:

; This is the same person as ”Conrad I of Germany” at Wikipedia, as ”Conrad Ier de Germanie” at Wikipédia (FR), and as ”Konrad I. (Ostfrankenreich)” at Wikipedia (DE).^12,13,14

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: 1.1 8.¹

; Per Genealogy.EU (Wetterau): “B1. Konrad I von der Lahngau, Emperor, +23.12.918; m.913 Kunegunde von Schwaben (+ca 910)”.⁴

; Per Med Lands:
     "KONRAD ([875/85]-19 Oct or 23 Dec 918, bur Fulda). Regino records that "Chuonradus comes" sent "filium suum Chuonradum" against "Gerardum et fratrem eius Matfridum" in 906[181]. Graf im Hessengau 908: "Hludowicus…rex" granted property to Kloster Hersfeld built "in pago Hassionum in comitatu Chuonrati" by charter dated 17 Dec 908[182]. "Hludowicus…rex" granted property to the church of Salzburg by charter dated 17 Dec 908 which names "Chonradi comitis nostri atque propinqui"[183]. "Hludouuicus…rex" confirmed the foundation of St Georg at Limburg-an-der-Lahn at the request of "Chuonrati ducis et fidelis neptis nostri, cuidam Chuonrato…comiti nostro filio Eberhardi in pago Loganahe in suo comitatu" by charter dated 10 Feb 910[184]. Graf im Keldachgau 910: "Hludowicus…rex" granted property to "presbitero Foldger" at the request of "Chuonradus comes ac propinquus noster…in pago Keldocense in comitatu ipsius Chuonradi" by charter dated 26 Jul 910[185]. "Hludowicus…rex" granted property to "presbitero Gozbold" at the request of "Chuonradi et Eberhardi comitum" by charter dated 16 Jun 911[186]. He was elected KONRAD I King of Germany at Forchheim [7/10] Nov 911, with support from "Franks, Saxons, Alemans and Bavarians"[187]. He was opposed by his brother-in-law Erchanger who rebelled in 915, and by Arnulf Duke of Bavaria[188]. He was wounded on an expedition against Duke Arnulf, which led to his death[189]. On his deathbed he nominated Heinrich of Saxony as his successor as king of Germany[190]. The necrology of Fulda records the death in 918 of "Cuonradus rex"[191]. Regino records the death of "Chuonradus rex" in 919 and his burial in Fulda monastery[192]. The necrology of St Gall records the death "X Kal Jan" of "Chuonradi regis"[193]. Thietmar records his death on 19 Oct, and his "funeral obsequies…at Weilburg"[194]. The Annalista Saxo records that "sepultus est in civitate sua Wilinaburh"[195].
     "m (before 7 Jun 914) as her second husband, KUNIGUNDE, widow of LIUTPOLD Markgraf [Liutpoldinger], sister of Graf ERCHANGER [Ahalolfinger] (bur Kloster Lorsch). Her two marriages are confirmed by the Annales Alamannicorum which record the marriage in 913 of "sororem [Erchangeri] Liupoldi relictam" with the king[196]. Her second husband arranged their marriage in an unsuccessful attempt to ally himself with her brother and with Arnulf Duke of Bavaria[197]. "Chuonradus…rex" granted rights to Kloster Lorsch by charter dated 7 Jun 914 which names "coniugis nostre Chunigunde regine"[198]. "Chuonradus…rex" confirmed grants of property "sue locum Ginga" to Kloster Lorsch by "coniux nostra Chunigund" by charter dated 8 Feb 915[199]."
Med Lands cites:

     Gebhard (?) Duke in Lothringen, Graf im Oberen Rheingau, married Ita/Ida/Hidda von Grabfeld.^2,3,8,4
Gebhard (?) Duke in Lothringen, Graf im Oberen Rheingau, was born circa 870.²
Gebhard (?) Duke in Lothringen, Graf im Oberen Rheingau, died on 22 June 910 at near Augsburg, Germany (now); died in battle.^2,1,3,4
      ; Per Ravilious: "Gebhard of Swabia
     Death: 22 Jun 0910, near Augsburg[1]
     Occ: Duke of Lorraine, 903-910
     count of the Rheingau
     Duke of Lorraine, 903-910
     cf. ES I Tafel 8[1]
     Children: Hermann (-0949)
     Udo (-0949)“.¹

; Per Genealogics:
     “Gebhard was the son of Udo, Graf im Lahngau, and his wife Judith. He was Graf in der Wetterau, Graf in der Rheingau, and then duke in Lotharingia (Lorraine).
     “With his wife Ita he had two sons, Hermann and Odo, of whom Hermann is recorded with progeny.
     “In 903 Ludwig IV 'das Kind', king of The East-Franks, king of Lorraine, granted Gebhard the government of Lotharingia with the title of duke _(Kebehart dux regni quod a multis Hlotharii dicitur)._ Gebhard died in battle against the Magyars, somewhere near Augsburg, on 22 June 910.”.²

; This is the same person as ”Gebhard, Duke of Lorraine” at Wikipedia, as ”Gebhard de Lotharingie” at Wikipédia (FR), and as ”Gebhard (Lothringen)” at Wikipedia (DE).^9,10,11 GAV-29.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: 1.1 8.²

; Per Med Lands:
     "GEBHARD (-killed in battle near Augsburg [22] Jun 910). Regino records the war in 902 between "Adalbertus cum fratribus Adalhardo et Heinrico" against "Eberhardum et Gebehardum et Rodulfum fratres", specifying that "postmodum iussu Gebehardi decollatus est"[281]. Regino names "Chuonradus senior [et] frater eius Gebehardus", specifying that Gebhard "in Weidereiba poterat"[282]. Duke of Lotharingia. "Hludowicus…rex" confirmed privileges to Kloster St Gallen by charter dated 24 Jun 903 in which among "fidelium nostrum" was listed "…Kebehart dux regni quod a multis Hlotharii dicitur…"[283]. "Hludowicus…rex" confirmed property of Stift Kaiserswerth naming "Cuonrat…propinquus noster et abba cœnobii sancti Suithberti" at the request of "comitum…Cuonrati…et Gebeharti" by charter dated 3 Aug 904[284]. Graf im Wormsgau: "Hludowicus…rex" confirmed property of the church of Worms including "res in pago Wormazfelde in comitatu Kuonrati" which "comes Gebehartus" held, by charter dated 2 Sep 906[285]. "Hludowicus…rex" confirmed an exchange of properties between Kloster Fulda and Kloster Echternach after consulting "fidelium nostrorum comitum vero Kebeharti, Liutpoldi, Burcharti, Eginonis, Liutfredi, Iringi et Cunpoldi" by charter dated 19 Mar 907[286]. Graf in der Wetterau 909: "Hludowicus…rex" granted property "locum Salchinmunstere…in comitatu Gebehardi et in pago Wetereibia" by charter dated 13 Dec 909[287]. Regino records the death of "Gebeardus comes" fighting the Hungarians[288].
     "m ---. The identity of Gebhard's wife is not known with certainty. Jackman highlights the Liber Memorialis of Remiremont which lists (in order) "Gebardi duci, Hidda, Riquinus, Christianus, Raginfridus". He associates the first two with Duke Gebhard [Konradiner] & his wife, whom he therefore speculates was named HIDDA [Ida], and the last three with the family of Gebhard's wife[289]. Jackman speculates[290] that the wife of Duke Gebhard may have been a sister of Hermann Archbishop of Köln, and descended from Christian [I] Graf von Grabfeld, possibly the daughter of Christian [II] Graf im Grabfeld. This series of suppositions provides support for his theory that Gebhard's grandson Otto was the same person as Otto Graf von Grabfeld."
Med Lands cites:

; Per Genealogy.EU (Wetterau): “A2. Gebhard von der Lahngau, Gf in der Wetterau, Gf im Oberen Rheingau, +k.a.nr Augsburg 22.6.910; m.Ida N”.¹² He was Duke of Lorraine between 903 and 910.¹

     Ita/Ida/Hidda von Grabfeld married Gebhard (?) Duke in Lothringen, Graf im Oberen Rheingau,, son of Udo (?) Graf im Lahngau and Judith (?).^4,1,2,5

      ; Per Med Lands:
     "GEBHARD (-killed in battle near Augsburg [22] Jun 910). Regino records the war in 902 between "Adalbertus cum fratribus Adalhardo et Heinrico" against "Eberhardum et Gebehardum et Rodulfum fratres", specifying that "postmodum iussu Gebehardi decollatus est"[281]. Regino names "Chuonradus senior [et] frater eius Gebehardus", specifying that Gebhard "in Weidereiba poterat"[282]. Duke of Lotharingia. "Hludowicus…rex" confirmed privileges to Kloster St Gallen by charter dated 24 Jun 903 in which among "fidelium nostrum" was listed "…Kebehart dux regni quod a multis Hlotharii dicitur…"[283]. "Hludowicus…rex" confirmed property of Stift Kaiserswerth naming "Cuonrat…propinquus noster et abba cœnobii sancti Suithberti" at the request of "comitum…Cuonrati…et Gebeharti" by charter dated 3 Aug 904[284]. Graf im Wormsgau: "Hludowicus…rex" confirmed property of the church of Worms including "res in pago Wormazfelde in comitatu Kuonrati" which "comes Gebehartus" held, by charter dated 2 Sep 906[285]. "Hludowicus…rex" confirmed an exchange of properties between Kloster Fulda and Kloster Echternach after consulting "fidelium nostrorum comitum vero Kebeharti, Liutpoldi, Burcharti, Eginonis, Liutfredi, Iringi et Cunpoldi" by charter dated 19 Mar 907[286]. Graf in der Wetterau 909: "Hludowicus…rex" granted property "locum Salchinmunstere…in comitatu Gebehardi et in pago Wetereibia" by charter dated 13 Dec 909[287]. Regino records the death of "Gebeardus comes" fighting the Hungarians[288].
     "m ---. The identity of Gebhard's wife is not known with certainty. Jackman highlights the Liber Memorialis of Remiremont which lists (in order) "Gebardi duci, Hidda, Riquinus, Christianus, Raginfridus". He associates the first two with Duke Gebhard [Konradiner] & his wife, whom he therefore speculates was named HIDDA [Ida], and the last three with the family of Gebhard's wife[289]. Jackman speculates[290] that the wife of Duke Gebhard may have been a sister of Hermann Archbishop of Köln, and descended from Christian [I] Graf von Grabfeld, possibly the daughter of Christian [II] Graf im Grabfeld. This series of suppositions provides support for his theory that Gebhard's grandson Otto was the same person as Otto Graf von Grabfeld."
Med Lands cites:

; Per Genealogy.EU (Wetterau): “A2. Gebhard von der Lahngau, Gf in der Wetterau, Gf im Oberen Rheingau, +k.a.nr Augsburg 22.6.910; m.Ida N”.⁶ GAV-32. Ita/Ida/Hidda von Grabfeld was also known as Hidda von Keldaggau.⁷

Reference: Genealogics cites:

     Hermann I (?) Herzog von Schwaben married Reginlinde (?) of Nellenburg, daughter of Eberhard I (?) Count in the Thurgau and Gisela (?), in 926.^7,8

Hermann I (?) Herzog von Schwaben died on 10 December 949.^1,8
      ; Per Ravilious email [2005]: "Hermann of Swabia
     Death: 10 Dec 0949[1]
     Occ: duke of Swabia
     duke of Swabia 926-949
     lay abbot of Echternach founder of the monastery of St. Florin (Koblenz)
     cf. ES I Tafel 10[1]
     Spouse: Regelinda
     Death: aft 29 Apr 0958[1]
     Father: Eberhard II of Zurichgau, graf im Zurichgau
     Mother: Gisela
     Marr: 0926[1]
     Children: Ida (-0986)
Ravilious cites: Detlev Schewennicke, "Europäische Stammtafeln: Neue Folge," [ " European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series " ], Frankfurt am Main: Vittorio Klostermann, 1998 [4th series], Band I.1 [Tafel 3 - Die Arnulfinger -751-771 Konige der Franken ], First series by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, continued second series by Frank, Baron Freytag von Loringhoven."⁸

; Per Genealogics:
     "Hermann was the son of Gebhard, duke in Lothringen, Graf im Oberen Rheingau, and his wife Ita. He was also a cousin of Konrad I, the emperor-elect.
     "When Burchard II, duke of Swabia, died at Novara in 924 while campaigning in Italy, Emperor Heinrich 'the Fowler' gave the duchy to Hermann. By investing the duke at a Diet at Worms, the emperor clearly demonstrated that he, not the tribal noblesse, had the right to appoint the duke. About 926 Hermann married Regilinda, the widow of Burchard. Their daughter Ida would have progeny.
     "Only once during his reign did Hermann face a rebellion of his own vassals, but he was also forced several times to make concessions in Switzerland. The Abbey of St. Gallen was given over to the direct protection of the king and the duke lost the use of its lands and incomes. By his control over the alpine passes into Burgundy and Italy, he dutifully served Ottonian interests in these realms. At Worms in 950, after Hermann's death on 10 December 949, Otto 'the Great' appointed his son Liudolf, who had in 947 or 948 married Hermann's daughter Ida, duke of Swabia.
     "Aside from being duke, Hermann was from 939 count in the Lahngau, from 948 count in the Auelgau, and from 947 lay abbot of Echternach. He founded the Church of St. Florin in Coblenz and was buried on Reichenau Island."⁹

; Per Med Lands:
     "HERMANN, son of GEBHARD Graf im oberen Rheingau [Konradiner] & his wife Hidda --- (-10 Dec 949, bur Reichenau Island). Regino names "duobus filiis suis [=Gebeardus comes] …pueris Udone et Herimanno" when recording their father's death fighting the Hungarians in 910[77]. Graf 914-915. He was installed in 926 as HERMANN I Duke of Swabia by Heinrich I King of Germany after the murder of Duke Burkhard II[78]. "Otto…rex" granted property to Waldo Bishop of Chur at the request of "Herimanni…ducis Sueuorum" by charter dated 8 Apr 940[79]. "Otto…rex" granted property "locis Tiuoningovue et Tuzinhusa…in Alemannia" to Kloster Kempten at the request of "fratris nostri Brunonis et Herimanni ducis" by charter dated 18 Jan 943[80]. "Otto…rex" confirmed the immunities of Kloster Essen including over land "excepta in loco Ruoldinghus quam Eggihart et eius coniunx Rikilt" possessed by hereditary right and in land "in comitatu Ecberti et Cobbonis" by charter dated 15 Jan 947, signed by "Heinrici fratris regis, Herimanni ducis, Cuonradi comitis, Erenfridi comitis, Gebehardi comitis, Ekkihardi comitis, Hugonis comitis"[81]. "Otto…rex" granted rights to Kloster St Gallen at the request of "Herimanni ducis Sueuorum" by charter dated 12 Jun 947[82]. "Otto…rex" granted property "in comitatu Herimanni ducis Rehzia" to "abbati nostro Hartberto" at the request of "filie nostre Ite…et Hermanni comitis" by charter dated 7 Apr 948[83]. "Otto…rex" granted property to the church of Cambrai at the request of "germani nostri Brunonis et Cuonradi ducis atque Herimanni ducis" by charter dated 30 Apr 948[84]. "Otto…rex" confirmed the possession of Abtei Süsteren by Kloster Prüm by charter dated 1 Jun 949, signed by "Cuonradus dux, Herimannus dux, Hezzo comes, Godefridus comes, Rudolfus comes, Reginherus comes"[85]. Regino records the death "949 IV Id Dec" of "Herimannus dux"[86]. The necrology of St Gall records the death "IV Id Dec" of "Herimanni ducis Alamannorum"[87]. The year is confirmed by the charter dated 1 Jan 950 under which "Otto…rex" confirmed a donation by "Liutolfo nostro filio eiusque…coniuge Ita" to Kloster Reichenau for the soul of "ducis nostri beate memorie Herimanni"[88].
     "m (926) as her second husband, REGINLIND, widow of BURKHARD II Duke of Swabia, daughter of [EBERHARD II Graf im Zürichgau] & his wife Gisela --- ([885/90]-Insel Ufenau 958 after 29 Apr). The Annales Alamannicorum record that "Gisle…socrui Purchardi iunioris" donated all her property to St Peter's in 911[89]. Regino records that "viduam Burchardi" married "Herimanno"[90]. The Liber Anniversariorum of Einsiedeln records in Aug the donation of "Stevegeia, Kaltbrunnen et Lindowa" by "domina Regelinda cum filio suo Burcardo duce"[91]. "Otto…rex" granted property "in pago Zuriggaui in comitatu Liudonis commitis" to "Erig" at the request of "Regilinde…comitisse" by charter dated 10 Mar 952[92]. "Otto…rex" donated property "in pago Engrisgouue in comitatu Uualtbrahtti in loco…Uuidhergis" to "matrone fidelique nostre Reginlind" at the request of "Burghardi ducis" by charter dated 29 Apr 958[93]. "
Med Lands cites: GAV-28.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: 1.1 8.⁹

     Thierry (?) de Lorraine, Bishop of Metz was buried in 1181 at Abbaye de Clairlieu, Villers-les-Nancy, Departement de Meurthe-et-Moselle, Lorraine, France; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     unknown
     DEATH     1181
     Bishop of Metz from 1174 until 1179. Son of Mathieu de Lorraine and Bertha of Hohenstaufen. Barbarossa appointed him Bishop but Pope Alexander III did not confirm him and he left the post again.
     Family Members
     Parents
          Mathieu I de Lorraine 1110–1176
          Bertha of Hohenstaufen 1124–1195
     Siblings
          Ferry de Lorraine unknown–1206
          Simon de Lorraine unknown–1206
     BURIAL     Abbaye de Clairlieu, Villers-les-Nancy, Departement de Meurthe-et-Moselle, Lorraine, France
     Created by: Lutetia
     Added: 8 Jun 2014
     Find A Grave Memorial 131048951.²
Thierry (?) de Lorraine, Bishop of Metz died in 1181.¹
      ; Per Med Lands: "THIERRY de Lorraine (-1181). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines in 1193 names "dux Symon et Fredericus de Bites et comes Matheus Tullensis et Theodericus" as the four sons of "ducis Lotharingie Mathie qui dux Mosellanorum dicebatur", specifying that Thierry was "electus Metensis ante episcopum Bertrannum"[127]. The Gesta Episcoporum Mettensium names "filius ducis Lotharingiæ Theodericus, ciuius pater dux Matheus…" when recording his installation as Bishop of Metz[128]. Archdeacon 1163. Provost of Saint-Dié 1165. Provost of Saint-Gengoul 1166. Primicerius at Toul and Archdeacon at Metz 1169. Bishop of Metz 1174. The Gesta Episcoporum Mettensium (Continuatio) records the succession of “filius ducis Lothoringiæ Theodericus” and the donation of “castrum suum Syrke...et Spinalensem advocatiam” made by “cuius pater dux Matheus”[129]. “Simon...dux Lotharingiæ et marchio” donated property to Bouxières-aux-Dames, at the request of “matris meæ dominæ Berthæ filiæ Friderici imperatoris et fratrum meorum Theoderici electi Metensi episcopi, Frederici et Mathæi ac sororis meæ Alidis ducissæ Burgundiæ”, for the soul of “patris mei domini Mathæi”, by charter dated 1176[130]. “Bertha…Lotharingorum ducissa…et filii mei Theodericus, Simon Dux et Marchio, Fredericus, et junior eorum Matthæus, soror quoque ipsorum Aleidis Ducissa Burgundiæ” donated property to Mont Saint-Trinité, for the soul of "viri mei nobilis ducis Matthæi", by charter dated to [1177][131]. He was deposed as bishop of Metz in 1179."
Med Lands cites:

     Ida/Ita (?) von Schwaben married Liudolf (?) Duke of Swabia, son of Otto I "the Great" (?) Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire and Eadgyth (Edith) (?) of Wessex, in 948.^4,1,3,2,5,6

Ida/Ita (?) von Schwaben died between 1042 and 1071.^3,1
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "LIUDOLF ([930]-Piomba 6 Sep 957, bur St Alban, near Mainz[243]). The Annales Quedlingburgenes name "Liudolfo et Liutgarde" as the two children of King Otto I and Eadgyth[244]. His birth date is estimate from Widukind stating that he "was still a tender youth no more than seventeen years of age" when his mother died[245]. His father installed him as Duke of Swabia in 950, in succession to Liudolf's father-in-law[246]. "Otto…rex" donated property "in pago Brisehguue in comitatu filii nostri Liutolfi" to Kloster Einsiedeln by charter dated 9 Aug 952[247]. Thietmar records that he rebelled against his father, together with his brother-in-law Konrad Duke of Lotharingia, was besieged at Mainz, but escaped to capture Regensburg and expel his uncle Heinrich Duke of Bavaria[248]. Thietmar also records that his father deposed him in 954 as Duke of Swabia, but ultimately forgave his rebellion[249]. His father sent him to Italy to control Berengario di Ivrea, Viceroy in Italy, who was attempting to reassert his independence, but Liudolf died there of a fever. Thietmar places a different slant on the event, stating that Liudolf had once more rebelled against his father and left for Italy[250]. Thietmar records the death of Liudolf in Italy 6 Sep, "after scarcely a year" following his departure from his homeland, but does not specify the year[251]. The Annales Necrologici Fuldenses record the death "957 VIII Id Sep" of "Liutolf filius regis"[252]. The necrology of Lüneburg records the death "6 Sep" of "Liuidolfus regis filius"[253]. Regino specifies that he died in Italy and was buried in Mainz St Alban[254].
     "m ([27 Oct 947/7 Apr 948][255]) IDA of Swabia, daughter of HERMANN I Duke of Swabia [Konradiner] & his wife Regelinda of Swabia (-17 May 986). Widukind names "ducis Herimanni filiam Idam" as wife of Liudolf[256]. Regino records the marriage of "filiam Herimanni ducis" and "Liutolfus filius regis" in 947[257]. "Otto…rex" granted property "in comitatu Herimanni ducis Rehzia" to "abbati nostro Hartberto" at the request of "filie nostre Ite…et Hermanni comitis" by charter dated 7 Apr 948[258]. "Otto…rex" confirmed a donation by "Liutolfo nostro filio eiusque…coniuge Ita" to Kloster Reichenau for the soul of "ducis nostri beate memorie Herimanni" by charter dated 1 Jan 950[259]. The Liber Anniversariorum of Einsiedeln records in May the donation of "Siernza" by "domina Ita…uxor Luitolfi ducis"[260]."
Med Lands cites:

; Per Genealogy.EU (Liudolfing): “D2. Liudolf, Duke of Swabia (948-954/957), +957; m.Ida of Swabia”.⁴

; Per Ravilious:
"Ida of Swabia[2]
Death: 17 May 0986[1]
cf. ES I Tafel 8, 10[1]
Spouse: Liudolf of the Empire, duke of Swabia
Birth: ca 0930[3]
Death: 6 Sep 0957, d.v.p.[3],[1]
Father: Otto I 'the Great' of the Empire (0912-0973)
Mother: Eadgyth of Wessex (-0946)
Marr: ca 0947[2],[1]
Children: Matilda (0949-1011)
Otto (0954-0982)
Richlind
Ravilious cites:
1. Detlev Schewennicke, "Europäische Stammtafeln: Neue Folge," [ " European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series " ], Frankfurt am Main: Vittorio Klostermann, 1998 [4th series], Band I.1 [Tafel 3 - Die Arnulfinger -751-771 Konige der Franken ], First series by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, continued second series by Frank, Baron Freytag von Loringhoven.
2. Pierre Riche (trans. by Michael I. Allen), "The Carolingians," Philadelphia: Univ. of Pennsylvania Press, 1993.“.³ GAV-30.

Reference: Genealogics cites:

; Per Med Lands:
     "IDA (-17 May 986). Widukind names "ducis Herimanni filiam Idam" as wife of Liudolf[94]. Regino records the marriage of "filiam Herimanni ducis" and "Liutolfus filius regis" in 947[95]. "Otto…rex" confirmed a donation by "Liutolfo nostro filio eiusque…coniuge Ita" to Kloster Reichenau for the soul of "ducis nostri beate memorie Herimanni" by charter dated 1 Jan 950[96]. The Liber Anniversariorum of Einsiedeln records in May the donation of "Siernza" by "domina Ita…uxor Luitolfi ducis"[97].
     "m ([27 Oct 947/7 Apr 948][98]) LIUDOLF [of Saxony], son of OTTO I "dem Großen" King of Germany & his first wife Eadgyth of Wessex (930[99]-Piomba 6 Sep 957, bur St Alban, near Mainz). His father installed him as LIUDOLF Duke of Swabia in 950, in succession to his father-in-law[100]. He was deposed in 954."
Med Lands cites:

     Mathilde (?) von Schwaben, Abbess in Essen was born in 949; Ravilious cites:
1. Detlev Schewennicke, "Europäische Stammtafeln: Neue Folge,"
[ " European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series " ], Frankfurt am Main: Vittorio
Klostermann, 1998 [4th series], Band I.1 [Tafel 3 - Die Arnulfinger -751-771 Konige der Franken ], First series by
Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, continued second series by
Frank, Baron Freytag von Loringhoven.²
Mathilde (?) von Schwaben, Abbess in Essen died on 6 November 1011; Ravilious cites:
1. Detlev Schewennicke, "Europäische Stammtafeln: Neue Folge,"
[ " European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series " ], Frankfurt am Main: Vittorio
Klostermann, 1998 [4th series], Band I.1 [Tafel 3 - Die Arnulfinger -751-771 Konige der Franken ], First series by
Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, continued second series by
Frank, Baron Freytag von Loringhoven.¹
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: I 3.¹

; 1.1.1.1 Matilda of the Empire
----------------------------------------
Birth: 0949[1]
Death: 6 Nov 1011[1]
Occ: Abbess of Essen

Abbess of Essen

addressed by her cousin Æthelweard, who dedicated his Chronicon to
her:
in his discussion of the sons of King Æthelwulf, he notes
' The fourth was Æthelred, who succeeded to the kingdom after the
death of Æthelbyrht, and who was my great-great-grandfather. The
fifth was Ælfred, successor after all the others to the entire
kingdom, who was your great-great-grandfather. Accordingly, sweet
cousin Matilda, having gathered these things from remote
antiquity, I have made communication to you, and above all I have
given attention to the history of our race as far as these two
kings, from whom we derive our descent. To you, therefore, I
dedicate this work, most beloved, spurred by family affection.'[4]
Ravilious cites:
1. Detlev Schewennicke, "Europäische Stammtafeln: Neue Folge,"
[ " European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series " ], Frankfurt am Main: Vittorio
Klostermann, 1998 [4th series], Band I.1 [Tafel 3 - Die Arnulfinger -751-771 Konige der Franken ], First series by
Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, continued second series by
Frank, Baron Freytag von Loringhoven.
4. A. Campbell, ed., "The Chronicle of Æthelweard," (London, 1962),
text of The Fourth Book of The Chronicle of Æthelweard,
http://www.deremilitari.org/resources/sources/aethelweard.htm.

     Otto I (?) Duke von Schwaben und Bayern was born in 954.^1,3
Otto I (?) Duke von Schwaben und Bayern died on 31 October 982; buried in Aschaffenburg.^1,2,3
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: I 3
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: 1.1 10.¹

; 1.1.1.2 Otto of Swabia
----------------------------------------
Birth: 0954[1]
Death: 31 Oct 0982[2],[5]
Occ: Duke of Swabia and Bavaria

Duke of Swabia and Bavaria

' A.D. 982. ...and as he [Emperor Otto II] went homeward, his
brother's son died, who was also called Otto; and he
was the son of Leodulf Atheling. This Leodulf was
the son of Otho the Elder and of the daughter of
King Edward.' [ASC 100[5] ]
Ravilious cites:
1. Detlev Schewennicke, "Europäische Stammtafeln: Neue Folge,"
[ " European Family Trees: Family Trees for the History of European States, New Series " ], Frankfurt am Main: Vittorio
Klostermann, 1998 [4th series], Band I.1 [Tafel 3 - Die Arnulfinger -751-771 Konige der Franken ], First series by
Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, continued second series by
Frank, Baron Freytag von Loringhoven.
5. "The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle," translated by The Rev. James Ingram,
London: J. M. Dent & Sons Ltd., 1934 (reprint of first edition,
1912), Everyman's Library, No. 624.³ He was Duke of Swabia between 973 and 982.² He was Duke of Bavaria between 976 and 982.²

     Heinrich I (?) Graf von Berg-Schelklingen married Adelaide (?) von Mochental, daughter of Diepold II (?) von Giengen, Markgraf in Nordgau and Liutgard (?) von Zähringen.^3,1

Heinrich I (?) Graf von Berg-Schelklingen died before 24 September 1116 at Germany (now); buried in Zwiefalten.¹
     Reference: Genealogics cites:

; Per Wikipedia:
     "Henry, Count of Berg, or Heinrich (I) von Berg-Schelklingen (died before 1116) was a count of Berg. Henryk was married to Adelajda of Mochental. He got three sons (Dypold II, Henryk and Rapot) and three daughters: Rycheza, Zofia and Salomea of Berg.
References
** Wieczorek Szymon, Zwiefalten i Polska w pierwszej po?owie XII wieku, Kwartalnik Historyczny."⁵
Heinrich I (?) Graf von Berg-Schelklingen was also known as Henry (?) Count of Berg.⁵ Heinrich I (?) Graf von Berg-Schelklingen was also known as Henry (?) 3rd Margrave of Berg.⁶

; Per Med Lands:
     "HEINRICH [I] (-Zwiefalten 24 Sep before 1116, bur Zwiefalten). Ortlieb's Chronicon of Zwiefalten names "Heinricus de Berge" as son of "Bobbonis comitis et Sophiæ ipsius uxori"[206]. Graf von Berg. He became a monk at Zwiefalten. The necrology of Zwiefalten records the death "VIII Kal Oct" of "Heinricus com senior de Berge…sepultus in Capitolio...cum patre suo Poppone et fratribus suis" and his donation of “curiam Oppinthal”[207].
     "m ADELHEID von Mochental, daughter of [DIEPOLD [II] von Giengen Markgraf im Nordgau & his wife Liutgarde von Zähringen] (-1 Dec [1125]). The primary source which confirms her precise parentage has not yet been identified, although the following necrology entry indicates her possible family origin. It is, however, unusual for a deceased married lady to be referred to in contemporary necrologies with a comital title derived from her birth family. It is therefore possible that the reference to “Mochental” relates to an otherwise unrecorded second husband. The necrology of Zwiefalten records the death "Kal Dec" of "Adelheit com de Mochintal et c v, mater Salome ducisse"[208]."
Med Lands cites:

     Adelaide (?) von Mochental married Heinrich I (?) Graf von Berg-Schelklingen, son of Poppo (?) Graf von Berg and Zsófia (?) of Hungary.^1,5

Adelaide (?) von Mochental died circa 1 December 1125.^1,6
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "HEINRICH [I] (-Zwiefalten 24 Sep before 1116, bur Zwiefalten). Ortlieb's Chronicon of Zwiefalten names "Heinricus de Berge" as son of "Bobbonis comitis et Sophiæ ipsius uxori"[206]. Graf von Berg. He became a monk at Zwiefalten. The necrology of Zwiefalten records the death "VIII Kal Oct" of "Heinricus com senior de Berge…sepultus in Capitolio...cum patre suo Poppone et fratribus suis" and his donation of “curiam Oppinthal”[207].
     "m ADELHEID von Mochental, daughter of [DIEPOLD [II] von Giengen Markgraf im Nordgau & his wife Liutgarde von Zähringen] (-1 Dec [1125]). The primary source which confirms her precise parentage has not yet been identified, although the following necrology entry indicates her possible family origin. It is, however, unusual for a deceased married lady to be referred to in contemporary necrologies with a comital title derived from her birth family. It is therefore possible that the reference to “Mochental” relates to an otherwise unrecorded second husband. The necrology of Zwiefalten records the death "Kal Dec" of "Adelheit com de Mochintal et c v, mater Salome ducisse"[208]."
Med Lands cites:

; Genealogics points out that is some dispute regarding Adelaide's parents. Med Lands states that her suffix of "von Mochental" may have come from a first husband not necessairly from her father.^3,6 Adelaide (?) von Mochental was also known as Adelajda (?) of Mochental.⁸

Reference: Genealogics cites: Królewska Krew, Poznan, 1997 , Prinke, Rafal & Andrzej Sikorski. 193.⁶

     Poppo (?) Graf von Berg married Zsófia (?) of Hungary, daughter of Salamon (?) King of Hungary and Judith/Sofie (?) of Swabia.^1,2

     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XII 62.¹

; Per Med Lands:
     "POPPO (-11 Jul ----, bur ---, transferred to Zwiefalten). Graf von Berg. The necrology of Zwiefalten records the death "V Id Jul" of "Bobbo com de Berge, pater Hainrici senioris comitis de Berge"[202].
     "m SOPHIA, daughter of --- (-26 Jun [1110], bur ---, transferred to Zwiefalten). Ortlieb's Chronicon of Zwiefalten names "Bobbonis comitis et Sophiæ ipsius uxori", when recording that their son Heinrich transferred their remains to Zwiefalten[203]. The necrology of Zwiefalten records the death "VI Kal Jul" of "Sophia com de Berge"[204]. Europäische Stammtafeln[205] shows Sophia, wife of Graf Poppo, as Zsófia of Hungary, daughter of Salomon King of Hungary. The source on which this is based has not so far been identified, but it appears unlikely chronologically. The granddaughter of Poppo and Sophia, Salome (second wife of Boles?aw III Duke of Poland), was born "before 1101" which, assuming she was her parents' oldest child (which is not known), would place the birth of her father in [1080] at the latest. If it is assumed that her paternal grandmother bore her own first child at the early age of 15, this would still place Sophia's birth in [1065] at the latest, when the wife of King Salamon was only about 11 years old. Until further evidence comes to light, it is assumed that the Hungarian affiliation of Poppo's wife was originally proposed as a hypothesis to explain the unusual first name "Salome" borne by Sophia's supposed daughter and granddaughter. However, the necrologies of Swabian monasteries show that the name "Salome", although not common, did exist on its own, not as a female form of "Salamon", during this period.
Med Lands cites:

; Per Med Lands: "POPPO ... m SOPHIA, daughter of --- (-26 Jun [1110], bur ---, transferred to Zwiefalten). Ortlieb's Chronicon of Zwiefalten names "Bobbonis comitis et Sophiæ ipsius uxori", when recording that their son Heinrich transferred their remains to Zwiefalten[203]. The necrology of Zwiefalten records the death "VI Kal Jul" of "Sophia com de Berge"[204]. Europäische Stammtafeln[205] shows Sophia, wife of Graf Poppo, as Zsófia of Hungary, daughter of Salomon King of Hungary. The source on which this is based has not so far been identified, but it appears unlikely chronologically. The granddaughter of Poppo and Sophia, Salome (second wife of Boles?aw III Duke of Poland), was born "before 1101" which, assuming she was her parents' oldest child (which is not known), would place the birth of her father in [1080] at the latest. If it is assumed that her paternal grandmother bore her own first child at the early age of 15, this would still place Sophia's birth in [1065] at the latest, when the wife of King Salamon was only about 11 years old. Until further evidence comes to light, it is assumed that the Hungarian affiliation of Poppo's wife was originally proposed as a hypothesis to explain the unusual first name "Salome" borne by Sophia's supposed daughter and granddaughter. However, the necrologies of Swabian monasteries show that the name "Salome", although not common, did exist on its own, not as a female form of "Salamon", during this period.
Med Lands cites:

     Zsófia (?) of Hungary married Poppo (?) Graf von Berg.^4,1

Zsófia (?) of Hungary died circa 1110.¹
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "POPPO (-11 Jul ----, bur ---, transferred to Zwiefalten). Graf von Berg. The necrology of Zwiefalten records the death "V Id Jul" of "Bobbo com de Berge, pater Hainrici senioris comitis de Berge"[202].
     "m SOPHIA, daughter of --- (-26 Jun [1110], bur ---, transferred to Zwiefalten). Ortlieb's Chronicon of Zwiefalten names "Bobbonis comitis et Sophiæ ipsius uxori", when recording that their son Heinrich transferred their remains to Zwiefalten[203]. The necrology of Zwiefalten records the death "VI Kal Jul" of "Sophia com de Berge"[204]. Europäische Stammtafeln[205] shows Sophia, wife of Graf Poppo, as Zsófia of Hungary, daughter of Salomon King of Hungary. The source on which this is based has not so far been identified, but it appears unlikely chronologically. The granddaughter of Poppo and Sophia, Salome (second wife of Boles?aw III Duke of Poland), was born "before 1101" which, assuming she was her parents' oldest child (which is not known), would place the birth of her father in [1080] at the latest. If it is assumed that her paternal grandmother bore her own first child at the early age of 15, this would still place Sophia's birth in [1065] at the latest, when the wife of King Salamon was only about 11 years old. Until further evidence comes to light, it is assumed that the Hungarian affiliation of Poppo's wife was originally proposed as a hypothesis to explain the unusual first name "Salome" borne by Sophia's supposed daughter and granddaughter. However, the necrologies of Swabian monasteries show that the name "Salome", although not common, did exist on its own, not as a female form of "Salamon", during this period.
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Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XII 62.⁴ Zsófia (?) of Hungary was also known as Sophia (?)⁴

; Per Med Lands: "POPPO ... m SOPHIA, daughter of --- (-26 Jun [1110], bur ---, transferred to Zwiefalten). Ortlieb's Chronicon of Zwiefalten names "Bobbonis comitis et Sophiæ ipsius uxori", when recording that their son Heinrich transferred their remains to Zwiefalten[203]. The necrology of Zwiefalten records the death "VI Kal Jul" of "Sophia com de Berge"[204]. Europäische Stammtafeln[205] shows Sophia, wife of Graf Poppo, as Zsófia of Hungary, daughter of Salomon King of Hungary. The source on which this is based has not so far been identified, but it appears unlikely chronologically. The granddaughter of Poppo and Sophia, Salome (second wife of Boles?aw III Duke of Poland), was born "before 1101" which, assuming she was her parents' oldest child (which is not known), would place the birth of her father in [1080] at the latest. If it is assumed that her paternal grandmother bore her own first child at the early age of 15, this would still place Sophia's birth in [1065] at the latest, when the wife of King Salamon was only about 11 years old. Until further evidence comes to light, it is assumed that the Hungarian affiliation of Poppo's wife was originally proposed as a hypothesis to explain the unusual first name "Salome" borne by Sophia's supposed daughter and granddaughter. However, the necrologies of Swabian monasteries show that the name "Salome", although not common, did exist on its own, not as a female form of "Salamon", during this period.
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