(?) (?) roi des Hérules1

M, #94351
Last Edited5 Apr 2020

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Waccho: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waccho. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).

Waltari (?) Roi des Lombards1

M, #94352, d. 547
FatherWacho (?) King of the Lombards1 b. bt 510 - 515, d. bt 540 - 541
MotherSilinga (?)1
Last Edited5 Apr 2020
     Waltari (?) Roi des Lombards died in 547.1
     He was King of the Lombards/Roi des Lombards
Per Wikipedia: "Waltari (539–546), son of Wacho"
Per Wikipedia (Fr.): "v 539 - v 547 : Walthari"
See attached map of the Lombard Kingdom ca sixth century from Wikipedia: Par Rafy, based on the work of PANONIAN: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lombard_state_526.png — Travail personnel, CC0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=18100249.2,3

; Per Med Lands: "WALTARI (-547). Paulus Diaconus names "Waltari" as the son of King Wacho & his third wife, specifying that he reigned for seven years after his father[147]. The Origo Gentis Langobardorum names "Waltari" as the son of Wacho & his third wife, specifying that he succeeded his father and reigned seven years[148]. He was installed as WALTHARI King of the Lombards in [540] in succession to King Waccho."
Med lands cites:
[147] Pauli Historia Langobardorum I.21 and I.22, MGH SS rer Lang I, p. 59
[148] Origo Gentis Langobardorum 4, MGH SS rer Lang I, p. 4.1

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HUNGARY.htm#Wachodied540. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_kings_of_the_Lombards. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  3. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Liste des souverains lombards: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_souverains_lombards. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).

Unknown (?)1

F, #94353
Last Edited5 Apr 2020
     Unknown (?) married Theudebert I (?) King of Metz/Austrasia, son of Theodoric I (?) King of Metz/King at Reims and Suavegotta (?), between 542 and 547
;
His 3rd wife.1
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "m thirdly ([542/47]) ---. Gregory of Tours records that Theodebert "married another woman" after his second wife died but gives no details[79]."
Med lands cites: [79] Gregory of Tours III.27, p. 185.1

Family

Theudebert I (?) King of Metz/Austrasia b. c 504, d. c 548

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEROVINGIANS.htm#TheodebertIdied547. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Rosamundis (?)1

F, #94354, d. after 572
Last Edited5 Apr 2020
     Rosamundis (?) married Alboin (?) King of the Lombards in 567
;
His 2nd wife.1
Rosamundis (?) died after 572.1
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "ROSAMUNDIS (-after 572). The Origo Gentis Langobardorum records the marriage of Albuin to "Rosemunda filia Cunimundi" after killing her father in battle[74]. Theophylactus records that "Longobardicæ gentis principem…Alboinum" married "adolescentulam Conimundi Gepidar um regis filiam"[75]. Paulus Diaconus names "filiam [Cunimundum] Rosimundam" as second wife of Alboin, who married her after killing her father in battle[76]. Gregory of Tours records that Alboin King of the Lombards married his second wife soon after he had killed her father and that "she loathed her husband as a result" and poisoned him "for she had become enamoured of one of his servants" with whom she fled before they were both caught and put to death[77]. The Origo Gentis Langobardorum records that Albuin was killed in Verona by "Hilmichis et Rosemunda uxore sua per consilium Peritheo", before she was poisoned herself with Hilmichis by "Longinus præfectus"[78]. According to Paulus Diaconus, she incited the murder of her husband by his own men[79].
     "m ([567] as his second wife, ALBOIN King of the Lombards, son of AUDOIN King of the Lombards & his first wife --- (-murdered Verona 28 Jun 572). "
Med lands cites:
[74] Origo Gentis Langobardorum 5, MGH SS rer Lang I, p. 4.
[75] Bekker, I. (ed.) (1834) Theophylacti Simocattæ Historiarum, Corpus Scriptorum Historiæ Byzantinæ (Bonn) ("Theophylactus") VI, 10, p. 261.
[76] Pauli Historia Langobardorum I.27, MGH SS rer Lang I, p. 68.
[77] Gregory of Tours IV.41, p. 236.
[78] Origo Gentis Langobardorum 5, MGH SS rer Lang I, p. 5.
[79] Pauli Historia Langobardorum II.28, MGH SS rer Lang I, p. 88.1

Family

Alboin (?) King of the Lombards b. c 530, d. 28 Jun 572

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HUNGARY.htm#RosamundisMAlboin. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Ariowalt (?) Duke of Turin, King of the Lombards1

M, #94355, d. 636
Last Edited5 Apr 2020
     Ariowalt (?) Duke of Turin, King of the Lombards married Gundberga (?), daughter of Agilolf (?) King of the Lombards and Theudelinde (?),
;
Her 1st husband.1
Ariowalt (?) Duke of Turin, King of the Lombards died in 636.1
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "ARIOWALT [Charoald], son of --- (-636). Duke of Turin. Fredegar names "Charoaldum ducem Taurinensem"[437]. He was elected as ARIOWALT King of the Lombards in 625. Paulus Diaconus records that "Arioald" succeeded after Adaloald was deposed[438]. The Origo Gentis Langobardorum records that "Aroal" ruled for twelve years after "Acquo", a later manuscript of the same source naming him "Ariovald ex genere Caupus"[439]. The royal capital was moved to Pavia in the 620s[440]. Fredegar records that "Taso unus ex ducebus Langobardorum cum agerit Tuscana provincial" rebelled against King Ariowalt after his accession[441]. The Historia Langobardorum states that "Arioldo" ruled for ten years[442]. Paulus Diaconus records that "Arioald" ruled for 12 years[443].
     "m [as her first husband,] GUNDBERGA of the Lombards, daughter of AGILOLF King of the Lombards & his wife Theodelindis of Bavaria. The Origo Gentis Langobardorum names "Gunperga" as the daughter of "Acquo de Theodelenda"[444]. Her first marriage is mentioned by Fredegar, who says she was "in all things good-natured and full of Christian piety", but also describes her implication in a plot to kill her husband. She was imprisoned in the fortress of Lomello, but re-established as queen three years later after the matter was judged by combat[445]. Gundberga married secondly (636) Rothari, who succeeded as King of the Lombards because of this marriage. Fredegar is the only authority which refers to this second marriage. He says that, after she induced Rothari to marry her, he "confined her in a single room in the palace at Pavia and … kept her in seclusion for five years"[446]. Paulus Deaconus reports that Gundperga married [thirdly] (652) Rodoald King of the Lombards, naming "Gundipergam, Agilulfi et Theudelindæ filiam" when recording that "Rodoald" married her after the death of his father King Rothari, specifying that she was accused of adultery with her own servant Carellus but declared innocent of the charge[447]. No single source mentions both of these alleged second and third marriages of Gundberga. It is unlikely that both are correct. The marriage to Rothari is more plausible, to explain his accession to the throne. If this is right, the marriage to Rodoald is even less likely as he would have been Gundeberga's stepson, a fact which if true would likely have been the subject of comment in contemporary records."
Med lands cites:
[437] Fredegar, IV, 49, MGH SS rer Merov II, p. 145.
[438] Pauli Historia Langobardorum IV.41, MGH SS rer Lang I, p. 133.
[439] Origo Gentis Langobardorum 6, MGH SS rer Lang I, pp. 6 and 7.
[440] Christie (1998), p. 147.
[441] Fredegar, IV, 50, MGH SS rer Merov II, p. 145.
[442] Historia Langobardorum Codicis Gothani 6, MGH SS rer Lang I, p. 10.
[443] Pauli Historia Langobardorum IV.42, MGH SS rer Lang I, p. 134.
[444] Origo Gentis Langobardorum 6, MGH SS rer Lang I, p. 6.
[445] Fredegar, IV, 49 and 51, MGH SS rer Merov II, p. 145.
[446] Fredegar, IV, 70, MGH SS rer Merov II, p. 156.
[447] Pauli Historia Langobardorum IV.47, MGH SS rer Lang I, p. 136.1
Ariowalt (?) Duke of Turin, King of the Lombards was also known as Charoald (?) Duke of Turin, King of the Lombards.1

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ITALY,%20Kings%20to%20962.htm#AriowaltLombardsdied636. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

NN Phokaina1

F, #94356
FatherBardas Phokas Emperor of Byzantium (pretender)1 d. 13 Apr 989
ReferenceEDV33
Last Edited10 Nov 2020
     NN Phokaina married Jean Dermokaitès.1

     ; See attached diagram showing the lijneag from Bardas Phokas to Rupen 1 - from Wikipédia (Fr.) This chart is based on the work of Settipani [2006].1,2 EDV-33.

; Based on Settipani chart seen on Roupen Ier Wikipedia (Fr.) entry.1,3

Citations

  1. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Roupen Ier: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roupen_Ier. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  2. [S4755] Christian Settipani, Continuité des élites à Byzance durant les siècles obscurs. Les princes caucasiens et l'Empire du vie au ixe siècle (Paris: de Bocard, 2006). Hereinafter cited as Settipani [2006] Continuité des élites à Byzance.
  3. [S4755] Christian Settipani, Settipani [2006] Continuité des élites à Byzance, See chart.

Jean Dermokaitès1

M, #94357
ReferenceEDV33
Last Edited9 Nov 2020
     Jean Dermokaitès married NN Phokaina, daughter of Bardas Phokas Emperor of Byzantium (pretender).1

     ; See attached diagram showing the lijneag from Bardas Phokas to Rupen 1 - from Wikipédia (Fr.) This chart is based on the work of Settipani [2006].1,2 EDV-33.

; Based on Settipani chart seen on Roupen Ier Wikipedia (Fr.) entry.1

Citations

  1. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Roupen Ier: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roupen_Ier. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  2. [S4755] Christian Settipani, Continuité des élites à Byzance durant les siècles obscurs. Les princes caucasiens et l'Empire du vie au ixe siècle (Paris: de Bocard, 2006). Hereinafter cited as Settipani [2006] Continuité des élites à Byzance.

Unknown (?)1

F, #94358
FatherJean Dermokaitès1
MotherNN Phokaina1
ReferenceEDV32
Last Edited3 Nov 2020
     Unknown (?) married Roupenès (?) Strat. Hellados.1,2

     EDV-32.

Citations

  1. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Roupen Ier: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roupen_Ier. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  2. [S4755] Christian Settipani, Continuité des élites à Byzance durant les siècles obscurs. Les princes caucasiens et l'Empire du vie au ixe siècle (Paris: de Bocard, 2006), See chart. Hereinafter cited as Settipani [2006] Continuité des élites à Byzance.

Roupenès (?) Strat. Hellados1,2

M, #94359, d. 1018
Last Edited1 Nov 2020
     Roupenès (?) Strat. Hellados married Unknown (?), daughter of Jean Dermokaitès and NN Phokaina.1,2

Roupenès (?) Strat. Hellados died in 1018.1,2
     ; See attached diagram showing the lijneag from Bardas Phokas to Rupen 1 - from Wikipédia (Fr.) This chart is based on the work of Settipani [2006].1,3

Citations

  1. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Roupen Ier: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roupen_Ier. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  2. [S4755] Christian Settipani, Continuité des élites à Byzance durant les siècles obscurs. Les princes caucasiens et l'Empire du vie au ixe siècle (Paris: de Bocard, 2006), See chart. Hereinafter cited as Settipani [2006] Continuité des élites à Byzance.
  3. [S4755] Christian Settipani, Settipani [2006] Continuité des élites à Byzance.

T'orosak (Thoros?) (?)1

M, #94360
FatherRoupenès (?) Strat. Hellados1 d. 1018
MotherUnknown (?)1
Last Edited1 Nov 2020
     T'orosak (Thoros?) (?) married Unknown (?), daughter of Sénéqérim-Hovhannès (?) Roi de Vaspourakan and Kouschkousch (?) of Armenia.1,2

     ; See attached diagram showing the lijneag from Bardas Phokas to Rupen 1 - from Wikipédia (Fr.) This chart is based on the work of Settipani [2006].1,3

Citations

  1. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Roupen Ier: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roupen_Ier. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  2. [S4755] Christian Settipani, Continuité des élites à Byzance durant les siècles obscurs. Les princes caucasiens et l'Empire du vie au ixe siècle (Paris: de Bocard, 2006), See chart. Hereinafter cited as Settipani [2006] Continuité des élites à Byzance.
  3. [S4755] Christian Settipani, Settipani [2006] Continuité des élites à Byzance.

Unknown (?)1

F, #94361
FatherSénéqérim-Hovhannès (?) Roi de Vaspourakan2
MotherKouschkousch (?) of Armenia2
ReferenceEDV31
Last Edited3 Nov 2020
     Unknown (?) married T'orosak (Thoros?) (?), son of Roupenès (?) Strat. Hellados and Unknown (?).1,3

     ; See attached diagram showing the lijneag from Bardas Phokas to Rupen 1 - from Wikipédia (Fr.) This chart is based on the work of Settipani [2006].1,4 EDV-31.

Citations

  1. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Roupen Ier: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roupen_Ier. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  2. [S4742] Wikipédia (FR), online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Sénéqérim-Hovhannès de Vaspourakan: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A9n%C3%A9q%C3%A9rim-Hovhann%C3%A8s_de_Vaspourakan
  3. [S4755] Christian Settipani, Continuité des élites à Byzance durant les siècles obscurs. Les princes caucasiens et l'Empire du vie au ixe siècle (Paris: de Bocard, 2006), See chart. Hereinafter cited as Settipani [2006] Continuité des élites à Byzance.
  4. [S4755] Christian Settipani, Settipani [2006] Continuité des élites à Byzance.

Sénéqérim-Hovhannès (?) Roi de Vaspourakan1

M, #94362
Last Edited1 Nov 2020
     Sénéqérim-Hovhannès (?) Roi de Vaspourakan married Kouschkousch (?) of Armenia, daughter of Gagik I 'the Great' Bagratuni of Armenia and Katramide (?).1,2

      ; Per Wikipedia (Fr.):
     "Sénéqérim-Hovhannès Arçrouni († 1026) est un roi arménien de Vaspourakan de 1003 à 1021.
Biographie
     "Sénéqérim-Hovhannès est le troisième fils de Abousahl-Hamazasp, roi de Vaspourakan, et de Gaday.
     "En 972, à la mort de son père, il partage les domaines paternels avec ses frères. Son frère aîné Achot-Sahak devient roi et conserve l'autorité sur ses cadets, tandis que Gourgen-Khatchik devient prince d'Andzévatsik et Sénéqérim-Hovhannès prince de Rštunik.
     "Peu après, il participe avec son frère Gourgen-Khatchik à la démonstration de force des principaux princes et rois arméniens au lac de Van. Cette opération est destinée à montrer à l'empereur Jean Ier Tzimiskès que l'Arménie ne se laissera pas aisément envahir par Byzance, et effecivement l'empereur écourte sa visite.
     "En 1002, l'empereur Basile II prend possession du Tayk que lui a légué le dernier prince et en profite pour exiger l'allégeance des rois arméniens. Gourgen-Khatchik et Sénéqérim-Hovhannès ne peuvent refuser, au contraire du roi Gagik Ier d'Ani qui se retire prudemment dans les montagnes.
     "Il succède à son frère Gourgen-Khatchik en 1003, en écartant ses neveux du trône. La protection de l'Empire byzantin assure à son royaume une période de paix d'une quinzaine d'années. Vers 1018, de nouveaux envahisseurs turcs apparaissent, les Daylémites. Le prince David Arçrouni, fils du roi, mène une armée pour les combattre, mais échappe de peu au désastre. Après une seconde invasion, Sénéqérim-Hovhannès décide de céder son royaume à l'empereur Basile II, en échange du thème de Sébaste en 1021. Il y meurt cinq ans plus tard.
Descendance
     "Marié à Kouschkousch, fille du roi bagratide Gagik Ier d'Ani et de Katramide de Siwnik, il a eu :
** David († 1037), prince de Sébaste, père d'une fille mariée au roi Gagik II d'Ani ;
** Atom I, prince de Sébaste, assassiné en 1080 par les Byzantins ;
** Abousahl, assassiné en 1080 ;
** Constantin, assassiné en 1080 ;
** Vest ;
** Mariam, mariée à Georges Ier, roi de Géorgie ;
** ..., qui fut abductée par son futur mari quand, c. 1025, a été installée dans le Monastère de Castro de Avelãs, en Bragance, en une pèlerinage qu'elle faisait à Santiago de Compostela1, mariée c. 1025 à Dom Mendo Alaniz, qui, selon le Livro Velho, était clerc, très probablement dans le Monastère de São Salvador do Crasto de Avelãs, et avait fillé une princesse Arménie quand elle avait été installée dans le dit Monastère, quand elle fut dans une pèlerinage a Santiago de Compostela2 et eu de postérité3

Voir aussi
Articles connexes
** Arçrouni: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ar%C3%A7rouni
** Vaspourakan: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaspourakan
Références
1. http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=pt;i=630606 [archive]
2. http://roglo.eu/roglo?lang=pt;i=4295047 [archive]
3. Manuel Eduardo Maria Machado de Abranches de Soveral, Os Bragançãos, Lisboa 2004, de João Carlos Lourinho Soares Machado
Bibliographie
** Gérard Dédéyan (dir.), Histoire du peuple arménien, Toulouse, Éd. Privat, 2007 (1re éd. 1982), 991 p. [détail de l’édition] (ISBN 978-2-7089-6874-5), p. 250-251.
** Cyrille Toumanoff, Les dynasties de la Caucasie chrétienne de l'Antiquité jusqu'au xixe siècle : Tables généalogiques et chronologiques, Rome, 1990, p. 103-104.
Lien externe
** (en) « Abousahl-Hamazasp » [archive], sur Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (consulté le 21 avril 2010). http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ARMENIA.htm#AbousahlHamazaspdied972B."1 Sénéqérim-Hovhannès (?) Roi de Vaspourakan was Roi de Vaspourakan.
(See attached map of Vaspourakan 908-1021 from Wikipedia: Par © Sémhur / Wikimedia Commons, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=6067757) between 1003 and 1021.

Citations

  1. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Sénéqérim-Hovhannès de Vaspourakan: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A9n%C3%A9q%C3%A9rim-Hovhann%C3%A8s_de_Vaspourakan. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  2. [S4742] Wikipédia (FR), online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Gagik Ier d'Arménie: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gagik_Ier_d%27Arm%C3%A9nie

Kouschkousch (?) of Armenia1

F, #94363
FatherGagik I 'the Great' Bagratuni of Armenia1,2,3 d. bt 1017 - 1020
MotherKatramide (?)4
Last Edited30 Oct 2020
     Kouschkousch (?) of Armenia married Sénéqérim-Hovhannès (?) Roi de Vaspourakan.1,2

Citations

  1. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Sénéqérim-Hovhannès de Vaspourakan: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A9n%C3%A9q%C3%A9rim-Hovhann%C3%A8s_de_Vaspourakan. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
  2. [S4742] Wikipédia (FR), online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Gagik Ier d'Arménie: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gagik_Ier_d%27Arm%C3%A9nie
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ARMENIA.htm#GagikIdied1017B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/GEORGIA.htm#KatramideMGagikIArmenia

Dawith Mamikonian1

M, #94364, d. 744
ReferenceEDV41
Last Edited10 Nov 2020
     Dawith Mamikonian died in 744.1
     EDV-41.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Royal Highness, ancestry of the royal child, London, 1982, Moncreiffe of that Ilk, Sir Iain. 48.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dawith Mamikonian: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00297815&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

NN Bagratuni1

F, #94365
FatherAshot IV 'Msaker/the Carnivore' Bagratuni constable of Armenia1 b. 765, d. 826
Last Edited6 Apr 2020
     NN Bagratuni married Guaram Mamphal (?), son of Ashot I the Great Bagratuni King of Iberia.2,1

      ; Per Med Lands:
     "[daughter . The Georgian Chronicle (18th century) records that the king of Armenia was the brother of the wife of "Gouaram, fils d'Achot et frère de Bagrat couropalates"[38].
m GUARAM of Iberia, son of ASHOT Prince of Iberia & his wife --- (-882)."
Med Lands cites: [38] Brosset, M.-F. (trans.) (1849) Histoire de la Géorgie Vol. I (St Petersburg) ("Georgian Chronicle (18th century)"), p. 269.1

Family

Guaram Mamphal (?) d. 882

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ARMENIA.htm#dauAshotMGuaram. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/GEORGIA.htm#Guaramdied882

Guaram Mamphal (?)1

M, #94366, d. 882
FatherAshot I the Great Bagratuni King of Iberia1 d. 826
Last Edited6 Apr 2020
     Guaram Mamphal (?) married NN Bagratuni, daughter of Ashot IV 'Msaker/the Carnivore' Bagratuni constable of Armenia.1,2

Guaram Mamphal (?) died in 882.1
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "GUARAM Mamphal (-882). The Georgian Chronicle (18th century) names "Gouram le plus jeune, né après sa venue à Artanoudj" as son of Ashot[134]. The Georgian Chronicle (18th century) records that "Gouaram, fils d'Achot et frère de Bagrat couropalates" captured "Gabloutz…parent de Sahac"[135]. The Georgian Chronicle (18th century) records that "Gouaram mamphal, père de Nasr" died in 882[136].
     "m --- of Armenia, daughter of ASHOT King of Armenia & his wife ---. The Georgian Chronicle (18th century) records that the king of Armenia was the brother of the wife of "Gouaram, fils d'Achot et frère de Bagrat couropalates"[137]."
Med Lands cites:
[134] Georgian Chronicle (18th century), p. 264.
[135] Georgian Chronicle (18th century), p. 268.
[136] Georgian Chronicle (18th century), p. 274.1

Family

NN Bagratuni

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/GEORGIA.htm#Guaramdied882. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ARMENIA.htm#dauAshotMGuaram

NN (?) of Abhkazia1

F, #94367
Father(?) (?) King of Abkhazia [Colchis/Kolkhis]1
Last Edited3 Nov 2020
     NN (?) of Abhkazia married Smbat I 'The Martyr' Bagratuni of Armenia, son of Ashot V "the Great" Bagratuni King of Armenia and Kotramide (?).1

      ; Per Med Lands:
     "SMBAT Bagratuni ([850]-murdered Erndjak 912). Kirakos Ganjaketsi's History of Armenia records that Ashot was succeeded by "his son Smbat" who ruled for 24 years but "underwent martyrdom in Christ at Dwin, hanged from a tree by Yusup, Apuset's son"[49]. He succeeded his father in 890 as SMBAT I "the Martyr" King of Armenia. The succession was disputed by his uncle Abas, but Smbat was crowned in 892 at Širakawan [Erazgavork] by the Caliph's representative, the ostikan of Azerbaijan. He also confirmed the treaty of friendship with Emperor Leon VI[50]. King Smbat's policy of independence provoked the ostikan Afshin to declare war on Armenia from neighbouring Azerbaijan, during which the Armenian katolikos was captured, although the latter was ransomed when King Smbat's military victory forced the Azeris to sue for peace[51]. The war was temporarily halted in 902 when the Caliph agreed Armenia's separation from Azerbaijan, the Armenian tribute being paid direct to Baghdad, although the latter decision was disputed by Azerbaijan[52]. Yusuf ostikan of Azerbaijan organised a general rebellion against King Smbat, who sought refuge in the fortress of Kapoyt Berd "Blue Fortress" in Aršarunik but later surrendered and was tortured to death, his headless corpse being exposed on a cross in Duin[53]. The Histoire of Jean VI Catholicos records in some detail the torture inflicted on King Smbat and his death, noting that he had reigned for 22 years[54]. The De Administrando Imperio of Konstantinos Porphyrogenetos records that "Symbatii…principum principis" was beheaded "ab Aposata Persidis"[55]. The Tables chronologiques of Samuel of Ani record that "Sembat-Tiézéracal" was killed by "Iousouf fils d´Abousidj, ostican" and that, after his death, "notre pays resta 7 ans sans maître"[56].
     "-m ---, daughter of --- King of Abkhazia [Colchis/Kolkhis] & his wife --- (-after [895]). The name of Smbat's wife is not known. The Histoire of Jean VI Catholicos refers to "la reine des arméniens, femme de Sempad et fille du roi de Colchide" when recording that she took refuge in "la forteresse de Kars" during an attack by the Arabs but that she was captured and taken "à Tovin"[57]. The same source records her subsequent release[58]. It is not possible to identify her father from this passage. See the document GEORGIA for the various possible candidates. Garsoïan dates these events to [895][59]. King Smbat I & his wife had five children"
Med Lands cites:
[49] Kirakos Ganjaketsi 1, p. 73.
[50] Garsoïan (2004), p. 151.
[51] Garsoïan (2004), pp. 154-5.
[52] Garsoïan (2004), pp. 155-6.
[53] Garsoïan (2004), pp. 156-8.
[54] Jean VI Catholicos, LXXIII and LXXIV, pp. 232-3.
[55] Konstantinos Porphyrogenitos De Administrando Imperio 44, p. 192 and 193.
[56] Samuel of Ani, Tables chronologiques, p. 435.
[57] Jean VI Catholicos, XXIX, pp. 166-7.
[58] Jean VI Catholicos, XXX, p. 169.
[59] Garsoïan (2004), p. 154.1


; Per Med Lands:
     "-m ---, daughter of --- King of Abkhazia [Colchis/Kolkhis] & his wife --- (-after [895]). The name of Smbat's wife is not known. The Histoire of Jean VI Catholicos refers to "la reine des arméniens, femme de Sempad et fille du roi de Colchide" when recording that she took refuge in "la forteresse de Kars" during an attack by the Arabs but that she was captured and taken "à Tovin"[57]. The same source records her subsequent release[58]. It is not possible to identify her father from this passage. See the document GEORGIA for the various possible candidates. Garsoïan dates these events to [895][59]. King Smbat I & his wife had five children"
Med Lands cites:
[57] Jean VI Catholicos, XXIX, pp. 166-7.
[58] Jean VI Catholicos, XXX, p. 169.
[59] Garsoïan (2004), p. 154.1

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ARMENIA.htm#AshotIdied890B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ARMENIA.htm#Abasdied951B

(?) (?) King of Abkhazia [Colchis/Kolkhis]1

M, #94368
Last Edited14 Oct 2020
     ; Per Med Lands:
     "-m ---, daughter of --- King of Abkhazia [Colchis/Kolkhis] & his wife --- (-after [895]). The name of Smbat's wife is not known. The Histoire of Jean VI Catholicos refers to "la reine des arméniens, femme de Sempad et fille du roi de Colchide" when recording that she took refuge in "la forteresse de Kars" during an attack by the Arabs but that she was captured and taken "à Tovin"[57]. The same source records her subsequent release[58]. It is not possible to identify her father from this passage. See the document GEORGIA for the various possible candidates. Garsoïan dates these events to [895][59]. King Smbat I & his wife had five children"
Med Lands cites:
[57] Jean VI Catholicos, XXIX, pp. 166-7.
[58] Jean VI Catholicos, XXX, p. 169.
[59] Garsoïan (2004), p. 154.1

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ARMENIA.htm#AshotIdied890B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Katramide (?)1

F, #94369
FatherGurgen II Bagratuni King of Iberia1 d. 1008
MotherGuranduht (?) of Abkhazia1
Last Edited3 Nov 2020
     Katramide (?) married Gagik I 'the Great' Bagratuni of Armenia, son of Ashot III Bagratuni of Armenia.1

      ; Per Med Lands:
     "GAGIK of Armenia, son of ASHOT III "Voghormadz/the Merciful" King of Armenia & his wife --- (-[1017/20]). The History of Aristakes Lastivertci names "Gagik son of Ashot, brother of Smbat and Gurgen from the Bagratid clan" as king of Armenia[105]. He succeeded his brother in [989/90] as GAGIK I "the Great" King of Armenia. The Tables chronologiques of Samuel of Ani record the succession in 994 of "Gagic fils d´Achot et frère de Sembat-Chahinchah", adding that he started the construction of "[le] temple de S. Grégoire" at Ani "du côté de Dzaghcotsa-Tzor"[106]. Kirakos Ganjaketsi's History of Armenia records that "his brother Gagik" succeeded Smbat and ruled for 29 years, building the "church of St Gregory above Tsaghkatsor"[107]. He refused to submit to Emperor Basileios II in 1001[108]. The Chronicle of Matthew of Edessa records that the death “vers le commencement de l´année 420 [29 Mar 971/27 Mar 972]” of “le roi d´Arménie Kakig”[109], although is impossible chronologically. On his death, his territories were divided between his two sons.
     "m KATRAMIDE, daughter of --- [a Georgian]. Kirakos Ganjaketsi's History of Armenia records that "his [Gagik's] wife Queen Katramite" completed the construction of the cathedral started by Smbat[110]. The sources are contradictory regarding the parentage of Katramide. According to Vardan, she was the daughter of Vasak [VI] prince of Siunik[111]. The Chronicle of Matthew of Edessa records that the mother of Yovhanes was “la reine Gadramidtkh…fille du roi de Géorgie, Kourke”[112]. It is assumed that this is intended to mean that she was Katramide, daughter of Gurgen [I] Prince of Kartli & his wife --- of Abkhazia. The Chronicle of Matthew of Edessa records that Yovhanes received support from “le chef Géorgien” in his dispute with his brother over their father´s succession, dated to after [1017/20]. It is unclear from the context of the passage whether “le chef Géorgien” in question refers to Yovhanes´s maternal grandfather, although the reference by Matthew to this “chef Géorgien” being “Aph´khaz de naissance” [113] suggests that this might be the case. If the passage indicates the same person, this alleged parentage is cast in doubt, as the death of Prince Gurgen is dated to 1008 in the Georgian Chronicle (18th Century). Alternatively, “le chef Géorgien” may refer to Katramide´s supposed nephew King Giorgi [I], who is recorded as ruling Abkhazia at the time of the death of Yovhanes´s father. This explanation has the advantage of elucidating why the passage in Matthew´s Chronicle avoids referring to “le chef” explicitly as Yovhanes´s grandfather. The contradictions in the early passages of the Chronicle of Matthew of Edessa, combined with the extreme unreliability of the various editions of the Georgian Chronicle as discussed in detail in the document GEORGIA, suggest that it is unwise to conclude anything more precise about the parentage of Katramide other than the likelihood of her father being of Georgian origin.
     "King Gagik I & his wife had three children."
Med Lands cites:
[105] Aristakes Lastivertci 2, p. 7.
[106] Samuel of Ani, Tables chronologiques, p. 441.
[107] Kirakos Ganjaketsi 1, p. 80.
[108] Garsoïan (2004), p. 170.
[109] Matthew of Edessa (Dulaurier), I, VIII, p. 6.
[110] Kirakos Ganjaketsi 1, p. 80.
[111] Matthew of Edessa (Dulaurier), note 4, p. 376.
[112] Matthew of Edessa (Dulaurier), I, IX, p. 7.
[113] Matthew of Edessa (Dulaurier), I, IX, p. 7.2


; Per Med Lands:
     "[KATRAMIDE . The Chronicle of Matthew of Edessa records that the mother of Yovhanes was “la reine Gadramidtkh…fille du roi de Géorgie, Kourke”[255]. It is assumed that this is intended to mean that she was the daughter of Gurgen [I] Prince of Kartli. The Chronicle of Matthew of Edessa records that Yovhanes received support from “le chef Géorgien” in his dispute with his brother over their father´s succession, dated to after [1017/20]. It is unclear from the context of the passage whether “le chef Géorgien” in question refers to Yovhanes´s maternal grandfather, although the reference by Matthew to this “chef Géorgien” being “Aph´khaz de naissance” [256] suggests that this might be the case. If the passage indicates the same person, this alleged parentage is cast in doubt, as the death of Prince Gurgen is dated to 1008 in the Georgian Chronicle (18th Century) (see above). Alternatively, “le chef Géorgien” may refer to Katramide´s supposed nephew King Giorgi [I], who is recorded as ruling Abkhazia at the time of the death of Yovhanes´s father. This explanation has the advantage of elucidating why the passage in Matthew´s Chronicle avoids referring to “le chef” explicitly as Yovhanes´s grandfather. The contradictions in the early passages of the Chronicle of Matthew of Edessa, combined with the extreme unreliability of the various editions of the Georgian Chronicle as discussed in detail in the Introduction to this document, suggest that it is unwise to conclude anything more precise about the parentage of Katramide other than the likelihood of her father being of Georgian origin. It should be noted that this is not the only parentage proposed for Katramide as, according to Vardan, she was the daughter of Vasak [VI] prince of Siunik[257].
     "m GAGIK I "the Great" King of Armenia, son of ASHOT III "Voghormadz/the Merciful" King of Armenia & his wife --- (-[1017/20]).]"
Med Lands cites:
[255] Matthew of Edessa (Dulaurier), I, IX, p. 7.
[256] Matthew of Edessa (Dulaurier), I, IX, p. 7.
[257] Matthew of Edessa (Dulaurier), note 4, p. 376.1

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/GEORGIA.htm#KatramideMGagikIArmenia. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ARMENIA.htm#GagikIdied1017B

Unknown (?)1

F, #94370
ReferenceGAV28
Last Edited9 Apr 2020
     Unknown (?) married Enguerrand I "Isembart" (?) comte de Ponthieu et de Montreuil, son of Hugues I de Montreuil seigneur d’Abbeville, avoué de St-Riquier and Gisela/Gisele (?) de France, Dame d'Abeville,
;
His 1st wife.1
     GAV-28.

; Per Med Lands:
     "m firstly ---. If the date attributed to Enguerrand's marriage to Aleida is correct as shown below, it is chronologically implausible for her to have been the mother of Enguerrand's sons. This is because Enguerrand's grandson, Enguerrand, must have marrie[d in [1045/50] (see below). This earlier marriage is therefore almost inevitably correct, although no direct reference which confirms this has yet been found in primary sources.]
     "Enguerrand & his [first] wife had three children:
     "i) HUGUES (-killed 20 Nov 1052, bur Saint-Riquier).
     "ii) GUY (-1074).
     "iii) FOULQUES (-after 1059)."1

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfraamp.htm#Enguerranddied1045. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Christian (?) Markgraf der Sächsischen Ostmark1

M, #94371, d. after 945
ReferenceGAV32
Last Edited9 Apr 2020
     Christian (?) Markgraf der Sächsischen Ostmark married Hidda (?), daughter of Thietmar I (?) Markgraf der Sächsischen Ostmark and Unknown (?).2

Christian (?) Markgraf der Sächsischen Ostmark died after 945.1
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "CHRISTIAN, son of --- (-after 945, maybe 961). "Gysalbertus dux rectorque S. Traiectenses ecclesie" donated property "Gulisam…in pago [Ardunensi] in comitatu Everhardi" to Trier by charter dated 928, subscribed by "Walgeri comitis, Thiedrici comitis, Cristiani comitis, Folcoldi comitis"[53]. Markgraf. The Chronicon Montis Serreni names "Cristiano marchione" as husband of "Hidda"[54]. "Otto…rex" granted property "in pago Nordthuringia in comitatu Thietmari in Magedeburg…in comitatu Geronis in Bigera…in comitatu Crhistiani in Grimhereslebu" for the foundation of Magdeburg by charter dated 21 Sep 937, and other property "in pago Nordthuringa in comitatu Cristiani in Grimersleba" by charter dated 11 Oct 937[55]. Graf im Nordthüringau. "Otto…rex" granted property in "pago Seromunti in comitatu eiusdem Cristani" to "nostro marchioni…Cristan" by charter dated 1 May 945[56]. "Otto…rex" donated property "inter Sclavos prope fluvium Fona…in pago Serimuntilante in comitatu Cristani comitis" to "nostri fidelis vassalli Fridurici filiis, Folcmaro…et Richberto" by charter dated 11 Jun 945[57]. "Otto…rex" granted property "Hebesheim in pago Derlingum in comitatu Brunonis" to Moritzkirche, Magdeburg by undated charter, but dated to [951/57] as it names "coniugis nostræ Aelheidis…filii nostri Liudolfi", in the presence of "eiusdem Brunonis comitis filiique Liudolfi, Geronis marchionis, Cristiani comitis nec non Liutharii et Friderici comitum" [58]. Thietmar records that "Count Christian" was buried at Magdeburg[59]. Part of the same passage refers to 961 but it is not possible from the context to conclude that Christian certainly died in that year.
     "m HIDDA, daughter of Graf THIETMAR [I] & his wife --- (-Jerusalem [945/75]). "Soror eorum [Gero marchiorum et Sigefridus] Hidda nominee" is named in the Annalista Saxo, which records her death in Jerusalem and that she was the mother of "Thietmarum marchionem et Geronem Coloniensem archiepiscopum"[60]. Thietmar also records the death in Jerusalem of "Gero's holy mother Hidda", undated but in a passage which records the subsequent invasion of Jerusalem by the Saracens implying that this occurred immediately after her burial[61]. She founded Kloster Nienburg with her sons Thietmar and Gero after her husband died[62]."
Med Lands cites:
[53] Beyer, H. (ed.) (1860) Urkundenbuch zur Geschichte der, jetzt die Preussischen Regierungsbezirke Coblenz und Trier bildenden Mittelrheinischen Territorien (Coblenz), Vol. I, (“Mittelrheinisches Urkundenbuch I”), 169, p. 233.
[54] Chronicon Montis Serreni 1171, MGH SS XXIII, p. 153.
[55] D O I 14, and D O I 16, pp. 101 and 103.
[56] D O I 64, p. 145.
[57] D O I 69, p. 149.
[58] D O I 56, p. 138.
[59] Thietmar 2.17, p. 104.
[60] Annalista Saxo 965.
[61] Thietmar 2.25, p. 110.
[62] Schölkopf, R. (1957) Die Sächsische Grafen 919-1024, Studien und Vorarbeiten zum Historischen Atlas Niedersachsens, 22 (Göttingen) p. 45, cited in Jackman (1997), p. 143 footnote 12.1
GAV-32.

Family

Hidda (?) d. bt 947 - 975
Children

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#Christiandiedafter945. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#Thietmardied932
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thietmar: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00422387&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Hidda (?)1

F, #94372, d. between 947 and 975
FatherThietmar I (?) Markgraf der Sächsischen Ostmark1 d. 1 Jun 932
MotherUnknown (?)2
ReferenceGAV32
Last Edited9 Apr 2020
     Hidda (?) married Christian (?) Markgraf der Sächsischen Ostmark.1

Hidda (?) died between 947 and 975 at Jerusalem, Germany 2203.1
     GAV-32.

; Per Med Lands:
     "HIDDA (-Jerusalem [945/75]). "Soror eorum [Gero marchiorum et Sigefridus] Hidda nominee" is named in the Annalista Saxo, which records her death in Jerusalem and that she was the mother of "Thietmarum marchionem et Geronem Coloniensem archiepiscopum"[45]. Thietmar also records the death in Jerusalem of "Gero's holy mother Hidda", undated but in a passage which records the subsequent invasion of Jerusalem by the Saracens implying that this occurred immediately after her burial[46]. She founded Kloster Nienburg with her sons Thietmar and Gero after her husband died[47].
     "m CHRISTIAN Graf im Nordthüringau und Schwabengau, Markgraf, son of --- (-after 945). The Chronicon Montis Serreni names "Cristiano marchione" as husband of "Hidda"[48]."
Med Lands cites:
[45] Annalista Saxo 965.
[46] Thietmar 2.25, p. 110.
[47] Schölkopf, R. (1957) Die Sächsische Grafen 919-1024, Studien und Vorarbeiten zum Historischen Atlas Niedersachsens, 22 (Göttingen) p. 45, cited in Jackman (1997), p. 143 footnote 12.
[48] Chronicon Montis Serreni 1171, MGH SS XXIII, p. 153.1

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#Thietmardied932. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/GERMAN%20NOBILITY.htm#dauKonradMEberwin
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thietmar: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00422387&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Thietmar I (?) Markgraf der Sächsischen Ostmark1

M, #94373, d. 1 June 932
ReferenceGAV3
Last Edited10 Oct 2020
     Thietmar I (?) Markgraf der Sächsischen Ostmark married Unknown (?), daughter of Unknown (?).2,1

Thietmar I (?) Markgraf der Sächsischen Ostmark died on 1 June 932.1
     GAV-33.

; Per Med Lands:
     "THIETMAR [I], son of --- (-1 Jun 932). Markgraf. Tutor of the future Heinrich I King of Germany[3]. The necrology of Fulda records the death in 932 of "Thiommar com"[4].
     "m ---, daughter of ---. Widukind records the mother of the first wife of Heinrich I King of Germany as matertera of "Sigifridi", son of Thietmar[5]. Jackman suggests that she was named Judith, quoting the Memorial book lists of Reichenau (two) and St Gallen (one) all of which name (in order) "…Gero, Iudita…", on the assumption that this refers to Gero's mother rather than his wife, although the latter would be more normal in such lists[6]. He also proposes a Konradiner origin, based it would seem only on onomastics, suggesting that she was the daughter of Konrad Graf in der Wetterau & his wife Glismut."
Med Lands cites:
[3] ES I.1 149.
[4] Annales Necrologici Fuldenses, MGH SS XIII, p. 123.
[5] Widukindi Res Gestæ Saxonicæ II.4 and 9, MGH SS III, pp. 439 and 440.
[6] Jackman, D. C. (1997) Criticism and Critique, sidelights on the Konradiner (Oxford Unit for Prosopographical Research), p. 142 footnote 10.1


; Per Med Lands:
     "daughter . The wife of Markgraf Thietmar and the mother of the first wife of Heinrich I King of Germany were sisters, as shown by Widukind who records the wife of Eberwin as matertera of "Sigifridi", son of Thietmar[767]. Jackman proposes a Konradiner origin, based it would seem only on onomastics. He also suggests that the wife of Markgraf Thietmar was named JUDITH, quoting the Memorial book lists of Reichenau (two) and St Gallen (one) all of which name (in order) "…Gero, Iudita…", on the assumption that this refers to Gero's mother rather than his wife, although the latter would be more normal in such lists[768].
     "m THIETMAR I Markgraf, son of --- (-1 Jun 932)."
Med Lands cites:
[767] Widukindi Res Gestæ Saxonicæ II.4 and 9, MGH SS III, pp. 439 and 440.
[768] Jackman (1997), p. 142 footnote 10.2

Family

Unknown (?)
Child

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#Thietmardied932. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/GERMAN%20NOBILITY.htm#dauKonradMEberwin

Liutgarde von Metz1

F, #94374
FatherAdalbert von Metz Graf von Metz1 d. bt 27 Jan 944 - 10 Feb 944
MotherLuitgarde (?) von Trier1 b. c 915, d. a 8 Apr 960
ReferenceGAV27
Last Edited3 May 2020
     Liutgarde von Metz married Robert I (?) Comte de Namur ,Count in the Lommengouw, son of Berenguer (?) Gf im Lommegau, Gf im Maifeld and NN (?) de Hainaut, héritière du comté de Lommois.1

      ; NB: The identify of Robert's wife is uncertain.
     Genealogics says: "_Europäische Stammtafeln_ give her as Ermengarde de Lorraine, daughter of Otto, duke of Lorraine."
Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 7:68
     Med Lands says: "Thierry Stasser suggests that she may have been [Liutgarde], daughter of Adalbert Graf [von Metz], emphasising that this is purely speculative based only on onomastics[21]."
Med Lands cites: Stasser, T. 'L'épouse de Robert I de Namur: Essai d'identification', Keats-Rohan, K. S. B. and Settipani, C. (eds.) (2000) Onomastique et Parenté dans l'Occident medieval (Prosopographica et Genealogica, Vol. 3), p. 115.
I have chosen to follow the Med Lands lineage. GA Vaut.2,3,4 GAV-27.

; Per Med Lands:
     "[LIUTGARDE . Thierry Stasser suggests that the wife of Robert [I] Comte de Namur may have been [Liutgarde], daughter of Adalbert Graf [von Metz], emphasising that this purely speculative based only on onomastics[857].
     "m ROBERT [I] Comte de Namur, son of ---.] "
Med Lands cites: [857] Stasser, T. 'L'épouse de Robert I de Namur: Essai d'identification', Keats-Rohan, K. S. B. and Settipani, C. (eds.) (2000) Onomastique et Parenté dans l'Occident medieval (Prosopographica et Genealogica, Vol. 3), p. 115.1

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(UPPER)%20NOBILITY.htm#LiutgardeMRobertINamur. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 8 April 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120947&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NAMUR.htm#RobertIdiedbefore981
  5. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NAMUR.htm#AlbertIdied1011B
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Albert I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120949&tree=LEO

Eberhard von der Lahngau Graf im Oberlahngau Pfalzgraf1,2

M, #94375, d. 23 October 939
FatherKonrad der Ältere von der Lahngau Graf im Oberlahngau, Hessengau, Gotzfeldgau1,2,3 d. 27 Feb 906
MotherGlismut (?)1,2 d. 26 Apr 924
ReferenceGAV33
Last Edited6 Dec 2020
     Eberhard von der Lahngau Graf im Oberlahngau Pfalzgraf married Oda/Uota (?) von Sachsen, daughter of Otto I "der Erlauchte/The Illustrious" (?) Herzog von Sachsen, Ct of Thuringia and Hedwige/Hadwiga "Edith" von Babenberg Duchess of Saxony, after June 910
;
Her 3rd (?) husband.1
Eberhard von der Lahngau Graf im Oberlahngau Pfalzgraf died on 23 October 939 at Killed in battle near Andernach.1
Eberhard von der Lahngau Graf im Oberlahngau Pfalzgraf died on 23 October 939 at near Andernach; Killed in battle.1
     ; NB: Per Med Lands (Fanconia), with regard to "EBERHARD Graf im Oberlahngau Pfalzgraf, son of KONRAD Graf in der Wetterau und im Wormsgau [Konradiner] & his wife Glismod":
     "Jackman speculates[216] that Eberhard married (after Jun 910), as her third husband, Oda von Sachsen, widow firstly of Zwentibold King of Lotharingia [Carolingian] and secondly of Graf Gerhard [Matfriede], daughter of Otto “des Erlauchten” Duke [of Saxony] & his wife Hedwig (-2 Jul after 952), for onomastic reasons as the name of Eberhard's supposed daughter (her affiliation also being based only on his own separate onomastic hypothesis) was that of Oda's maternal grandmother. This is an interesting theory but it accumulates one onomastic hypothesis on another and must be considered highly speculative.]"
Med Lands cites: [216] Jackman, D. C. (1997) Criticism and Critique, sidelights on the Konradiner (Oxford Unit for Prosopographical Research), p. 88. GAV-33.

; Per Med Lands:
     "EBERHARD (-killed in battle near Andernach 23 Oct 939). The Chronicon Laureshamense records a declaration of "Chuonradus rex" dated "914 VII Id Iun apud Franchonfort" relating to the freedom of election of abbots in which he names "Eberhardi marchionis fratris nostri"[200]. Widukind names "Evurhardus frater regis"[201]. Thietmar also names Eberhard as brother of King Konrad, when recording that the latter recommended that he support the election of the future King Heinrich I on his deathbed[202]. Lay Abbot of St Maximin at Trier 909. "Hludowicus…rex" granted property to "presbitero Gozbold" at the request of "Chuonradi et Eberhardi comitum" by charter dated 16 Jun 911[203]. "Chuonradus…rex" donated property "in Turgeuue cirtem…Vuihare et in Alpegeuue locum…Sueininga…et in pago Para curtem…Oberendorf" to Kloster St Gallen on the intervention of "Eburhardique germani fratris nostri" by charter dated 14 Mar 912[204]. "Chuonradus…rex" confirmed privileges to Kloster Murbach by charter dated 12 Mar 913 with the consent of "fidelium nostrorum…Erchangarii, Chuonradi, Hugonis, Ottonis, Heinrici, Bopponis, Udalrici, Eberhardi"[205]. Graf im Hessen und Perfgau 913. Graf im Oberlahngau 913 and 928. Markgraf 914: "Chuonradus…rex" granted property "villa Bercheim in comitatu Eberhardi in pago Tuonahgouue" to "capellano Reginolf" by charter dated 4 May 916[206]. "Chuonradus…rex" granted rights to Kloster Lorsch by charter dated 7 Jun 914 which names "coniugis nostre Chunigunde regine"[207]. Duke of Franconia. "Chuonradus…rex" granted property to Udalfrid Bishop of Eichstätt by charter dated 9 Sep 918 at the request of "Eberhardo et Heinricho comitibus"[208]. He submitted to Heinrich I King of Germany, elected in 919 to succeed his deceased brother[209]. "Heinricus…rex" granted property to "in pago Hegouue in eodem comitatu…in loco Siginga" to "Baboni…comitis Burchardi vassallo" after consultation with "Burchardi, Ebarhardi, Chuonradi, Heinrici atque Utonis…comitum" by charter dated 30 Nov 920[210]. A document dated 7 Nov 921 recording a meeting between Charles III "le Simple" King of France and Heinrich I King of Germany names "Evrardus, Chonradus, Herimannus, Hato, Godefredus, Otto, Herimannus, Cobbo, Magenhardus, Fridericus, Foldac" as representatives of the latter[211]. Truchsess 936. Pfalzgraf 938. He rebelled against Otto I "der Große" King of Germany in 938, seized Hellmern, and captured Heinrich, the king's brother, for which he was imprisoned at Hildesheim[212]. He was killed by his cousins, the brothers Hermann I Duke of Swabia and Udo[213]. Regino records that "Eberhardus" was sent into exile in 939 and killed[214]. The necrology of Fulda records the death in 939 of "Eburhart dux"[215].
     "[m ---. Jackman speculates[216] that Eberhard married (after Jun 910), as her third husband, Oda von Sachsen, widow firstly of Zwentibold King of Lotharingia [Carolingian] and secondly of Graf Gerhard [Matfriede], daughter of Otto “des Erlauchten” Duke [of Saxony] & his wife Hedwig (-2 Jul after 952), for onomastic reasons as the name of Eberhard's supposed daughter (her affiliation also being based only on his own separate onomastic hypothesis) was that of Oda's maternal grandmother. This is an interesting theory but it accumulates one onomastic hypothesis on another and must be considered highly speculative.]"
Med Lands cites:
[200] Chronicon Laureshamense, MGH SS XXI, p. 386.
[201] Widukindi Res Gestæ Saxonicæ I.24, MGH SS III, p. 428.
[202] Thietmar 1.8, pp. 72-3.
[203] D LK 77, p. 214.
[204] D K I 5, p. 5.
[205] D K I 17, p. 16.
[206] D K I 23, p. 22.
[207] D K I 28, p. 26.
[208] D K I 36, p. 33.
[209] Reuter (1991), p. 139.
[210] D H I 2, p. 40.
[211] Karoli III et Heinrici I pactum ad Bonnam castrum, MGH LL 1, p. 567.
[212] Hill, B. H. (1972) Medieval Monarchy in Action: The German Empire from Henry I to Henry IV (London, George Allen and Unwin), p. 29.
[213] Jackman (1997), p. 55, and Thietmar 2.34, p. 117.
[214] Reginonis Chronicon, Continuator Reginonis Trevirensis 939, MGH SS I, p. 618.
[215] Annales Necrologici Fuldenses, MGH SS XIII, p. 123.
[216] Jackman (1997), p. 88.
[217] Jackman (1997), p. 87.1


; Per Med Lands:
     "EBERHARD (-killed in battle near Andernach 23 Oct 939). The Chronicon Laureshamense records a declaration of "Chuonradus rex" dated "914 VII Id Iun apud Franchonfort" relating to the freedom of election of abbots in which he names "Eberhardi marchionis fratris nostri"[200]. Widukind names "Evurhardus frater regis"[201]. Thietmar also names Eberhard as brother of King Konrad, when recording that the latter recommended that he support the election of the future King Heinrich I on his deathbed[202]. Lay Abbot of St Maximin at Trier 909. "Hludowicus…rex" granted property to "presbitero Gozbold" at the request of "Chuonradi et Eberhardi comitum" by charter dated 16 Jun 911[203]. "Chuonradus…rex" donated property "in Turgeuue cirtem…Vuihare et in Alpegeuue locum…Sueininga…et in pago Para curtem…Oberendorf" to Kloster St Gallen on the intervention of "Eburhardique germani fratris nostri" by charter dated 14 Mar 912[204]. "Chuonradus…rex" confirmed privileges to Kloster Murbach by charter dated 12 Mar 913 with the consent of "fidelium nostrorum…Erchangarii, Chuonradi, Hugonis, Ottonis, Heinrici, Bopponis, Udalrici, Eberhardi"[205]. Graf im Hessen und Perfgau 913. Graf im Oberlahngau 913 and 928. Markgraf 914: "Chuonradus…rex" granted property "villa Bercheim in comitatu Eberhardi in pago Tuonahgouue" to "capellano Reginolf" by charter dated 4 May 916[206]. "Chuonradus…rex" granted rights to Kloster Lorsch by charter dated 7 Jun 914 which names "coniugis nostre Chunigunde regine"[207]. Duke of Franconia. "Chuonradus…rex" granted property to Udalfrid Bishop of Eichstätt by charter dated 9 Sep 918 at the request of "Eberhardo et Heinricho comitibus"[208]. He submitted to Heinrich I King of Germany, elected in 919 to succeed his deceased brother[209]. "Heinricus…rex" granted property to "in pago Hegouue in eodem comitatu…in loco Siginga" to "Baboni…comitis Burchardi vassallo" after consultation with "Burchardi, Ebarhardi, Chuonradi, Heinrici atque Utonis…comitum" by charter dated 30 Nov 920[210]. A document dated 7 Nov 921 recording a meeting between Charles III "le Simple" King of France and Heinrich I King of Germany names "Evrardus, Chonradus, Herimannus, Hato, Godefredus, Otto, Herimannus, Cobbo, Magenhardus, Fridericus, Foldac" as representatives of the latter[211]. Truchsess 936. Pfalzgraf 938. He rebelled against Otto I "der Große" King of Germany in 938, seized Hellmern, and captured Heinrich, the king's brother, for which he was imprisoned at Hildesheim[212]. He was killed by his cousins, the brothers Hermann I Duke of Swabia and Udo[213]. Regino records that "Eberhardus" was sent into exile in 939 and killed[214]. The necrology of Fulda records the death in 939 of "Eburhart dux"[215].
     "[m ---. Jackman speculates[216] that Eberhard married (after Jun 910), as her third husband, Oda von Sachsen, widow firstly of Zwentibold King of Lotharingia [Carolingian] and secondly of Graf Gerhard [Matfriede], daughter of Otto “des Erlauchten” Duke [of Saxony] & his wife Hedwig (-2 Jul after 952), for onomastic reasons as the name of Eberhard's supposed daughter (her affiliation also being based only on his own separate onomastic hypothesis) was that of Oda's maternal grandmother. This is an interesting theory but it accumulates one onomastic hypothesis on another and must be considered highly speculative.]"
Med Lands cites:
[200] Chronicon Laureshamense, MGH SS XXI, p. 386.
[201] Widukindi Res Gestæ Saxonicæ I.24, MGH SS III, p. 428.
[202] Thietmar 1.8, pp. 72-3.
[203] D LK 77, p. 214.
[204] D K I 5, p. 5.
[205] D K I 17, p. 16.
[206] D K I 23, p. 22.
[207] D K I 28, p. 26.
[208] D K I 36, p. 33.
[209] Reuter (1991), p. 139.
[210] D H I 2, p. 40.
[211] Karoli III et Heinrici I pactum ad Bonnam castrum, MGH LL 1, p. 567.
[212] Hill, B. H. (1972) Medieval Monarchy in Action: The German Empire from Henry I to Henry IV (London, George Allen and Unwin), p. 29.
[213] Jackman (1997), p. 55, and Thietmar 2.34, p. 117.
[214] Reginonis Chronicon, Continuator Reginonis Trevirensis 939, MGH SS I, p. 618.
[215] Annales Necrologici Fuldenses, MGH SS XIII, p. 123.
[216] Jackman (1997), p. 88.1

Family

Oda/Uota (?) von Sachsen b. 877, d. a 2 Jul 952
Child

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANCONIA.htm#Eberharddied939. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Wetterau Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/german/wetterau.html
  3. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANCONIA.htm#Udo860879
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANCONIA.htm#IngeltrudMRobertAutun

Ermentrude (?) of the Franks1

F, #94376, b. between 908 and 916
FatherCharles III "The Simple" (?) King of West Franks, Holy Roman Emperor1,2 b. 17 Sep 879, d. 7 Oct 929
MotherFrederuna (?) Queen of the West Franks1,2 b. bt 885 - 887, d. 10 Feb 917
ReferenceGAV28
Last Edited9 Jul 2020
     Ermentrude (?) of the Franks was born between 908 and 916.1 She married Gottfried (?) Graf im Jülichgau, son of Gerhard/Matfride I (?) Graf im Metzgau and Oda/Uota (?) von Sachsen, before 934.1

     GAV-28.

; Per Med Lands:
     "ERMENTRUDE ([908/16]-). The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names (in order) "Hyrmintrudim, Frederunam, Adelheidim, Gislam, Rotrudim et Hildegardim" as the children of "Karolus rex…ex Frederuna regina"[351]. Hlawitschka suggests[352] that Ermentrude, daughter of King Charles III, was the wife of Gottffied Graf im Jülichgau. This appears to be based on the combined reading of four strings of entries in the Liber Memorialis of Remiremont: (1) "Dumnus Gislibertus dux…Dumna Girberga, Ainricus, Haduidis…", which is followed by (2) "Gottefridus comes cum infantibus…suis, Ermentridis comitissa"[353]; (3) "Gotefridus, Ermendrudis, Gotefridus, Gebardus, Gerardus, Adelardus, Girberga" assumed to be Gottfried, his wife, four sons and daughter[354], and (4) "…Caroli imperatoris…Hludowici imperatoris, Hlotarii, Caroli, Ermentrudis"[355], which may represent an abbreviated attempt to set out the ancestry of Ermentrude wife of Graf Gottfried. However, the connection between entries (1) to (3) and entry (4) appears to be speculation.
     "[m (before [934]) GOTTFRIED Graf im Jülichgau, son of Graf GERHARD [Matfride] & his wife Oda [Ottonen] (-26 Mar after 949).]"
Med Lands cites:
[351] Genealogiæ Comitum Flandriæ, Witgeri Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis MGH SS IX, p. 303.
[352] Hlawitschka, E. (1969) Die Anfänge des Hauses Habsburg-Lothringen, Genealogische Untersuchungen zur Geschichte Lothringens und des Reiches im 9. 10 and 11 Jahrhundert (Saarbrücken), pp. 68-9.
[353] Liber Memorialis de Remiremont, p. 9, Hlawitschka (1969), p. 57, suggesting the estimated date.
[354] Liber Memorialis de Remiremont, p. 9, Hlawitschka (1969), p. 57, suggesting the estimated date.
[355] Liber Memorialis de Remiremont, p. 2.1

Family

Gottfried (?) Graf im Jülichgau b. bt 905 - 910, d. a 26 Mar 949
Child

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAROLINGIANS.htm#ErmentrudeMGottfriedJulichgau. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAROLINGIANS.htm#CharlesIIIleSimpleFrancesB
  3. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(UPPER)%20NOBILITY.htm#Gerharddiedafter963B

Gerhard (?) Graf von Metz1

M, #94377, b. between 930 and 935, d. after 963
FatherGottfried (?) Graf im Jülichgau1 b. bt 905 - 910, d. a 26 Mar 949
MotherErmentrude (?) of the Franks1 b. bt 908 - 916
ReferenceGAV30
Last Edited9 Apr 2020
     Gerhard (?) Graf von Metz was born between 930 and 935.1
Gerhard (?) Graf von Metz died after 963.1
      ; Per Med Lands:
     "GERHARD, son of GOTTFRIED Graf im Jülichgau & his wife Ermentrude of the Franks ([930/35]-after 963). The Liber Memorialis of Remiremont in [930s/940s] names (in order) "Gotefridus, Ermendrudis, Gotefridus, Gebardus, Gerardus, Adelardus, Girberga" assumed to be Gottffried, his wife, four sons and daughter[873]. Graf von Metz 963. The Vita Adelheidis refers to the four brothers of "Gerbirg…filia ducis Godefridi", of whom "unus paterno nominee...obiit [sine] legitimæ uxoris et liberorum…alter …attavus fuit Henrici nuper defuncti imperatoris [Heinrich III]", the remaining two being ancestors of German nobles[874].
     "m ---. The name of Gerhard's wife is not known."
Med Lands cites:
[873] Liber Memorialis de Remiremont, quoted in Hlawitschka (1969), p. 57.
[874] Vita Adelheidis abbatissæ Vilicensis 3, MGH SS XV.2, p. 757.1
GAV-30.

Family

Children

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(UPPER)%20NOBILITY.htm#Gerharddiedafter963B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Ida von Süpplingenburg1

F, #94378, d. 3 March 1138
FatherGerhard (?) Graf von Süpplinburg, Graf im Harzgau1 d. 9 Jun 1075
MotherHedwig (?) Grafin von Formbach1 b. 1050, d. 1088
Last Edited6 Jul 2020
     Ida von Süpplingenburg married Sieghard IX/X von Tengling Graf von Tengling, Graf von Schala, Graf von Burghausen, son of Friedrich I von Tengling Graf von Tengling and Mathilde von Vohburg.2,3

Ida von Süpplingenburg died on 3 March 1138.1
Ida von Süpplingenburg was buried after 3 March 1138 at Michaelstein .1
     She witnessed the marriage of Siegfried (?) Graf von Burghausen and Oda/Ida (?); NB: Genealogy.EU (Lorraine, p. 11) says: "Oda=Ida; m.Gf Siegfried von Burghausen (+1104)," and assigns this Oda/Ida as the dau. of of Thierry II of Lorrain by his 2nd wife, Gertrude of Flanders.
     Med Lands shows "SIEGHARD [X] von Tengling...Graf von Tengling. Graf von Schala. Graf von Burghausen...murdered Regensburg 5 Feb 1104" who m. "IDA von Süpplingenburg, daughter of GEBHARD von Süpplingenburg Graf im Harzgau & his wife Hedwig von Formbach."
     Both Siedgfrieds were "von Burghausen" and both d. in 1014. Both of them married a wife called "Ida". So it is reasonable to assume that one of these two sources has confused the wife's origins. GA Vaut.4,2,5

; Per Med Lands:
     "IDA (-3 Mar [1138], bur Michaelstein). The Notæ Genealogicæ Bavaricæ name "Lotharii regis et Ite comitisse de Purchausen" as children of "Hadewic"[325]. Pope Innocent III took Kloster Michaelbeuren under his protection 7 Jun 1137 at the request of Gräfin Ida and her sons Grafen Gebehard and Sigehard, nephews of Emperor Lothar, the document also naming Sigehard Patriarch of Aquileja, his mother Bilihilt, Graf Sigehard and his brother Friedrich[326]. The necrology of Salzburg St Rudpert records the death "V Non Mar" of "Ita com de Purchhusen"[327]. The necrology of Michaelbeuern records the death "V Non Mar" of "Ita com"[328]. The necrology of Melk records the death "IV Non Mar" of "Ita com de Scala"[329].
     "m SIEGHARD [X] Graf von Tengling, son of FRIEDRICH [I] Graf von Tengling & his wife Mathilde von Vohburg (-beheaded Regensburg 5 Feb 1104)."
Med Lands cites:
[325] Notæ Genealogicæ Bavaricæ, MGH SS XXIV, p. 77.
[326] Salzburger Uurkundenbuch, Vol. 2, 178, p. 262, cited in Wegener, W. (1965/67) Genealogischen Tafeln zur mitteleuropäischen Geschichte (Verlag Degener), p. 96.
[327] Monumenta Necrologica S Rudperti Salisburgensis, Salzburg Necrologies, p. 91.
[328] Necrologium Michaelburanum, Salzburg Necrologies, p. 212.
[329] Necrologium Mellicense Antiquissimum, Passau Necrologies (II), p. 522.1

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXON%20NOBILITY.htm#Idadied1138. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  2. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAVARIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#SieghardIXTenglingBurghausendied1104B
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sieghard IX: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00619356&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Lorraine 11 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/lorraine/lorraine11.html
  5. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 9 April 2
    020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  6. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAVARIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#GebhardIBurghausxendied1163

Berta d'Ivrea1

F, #94379
FatherBerengarius II (?) Ct of Milan, Margrave of Ivrea, King of Italy1 b. b 913, d. 6 Aug 966
MotherWilla III (?) d'Arles, Princess of Tuscany1 b. bt 910 - 911, d. a 966
Last Edited9 Apr 2020
      ; Per Med Lands. "[BERTA . The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. Abbess of San Sisto at Piacenza 952.]"1

; Abbess of San Sisto at Piacenza.1

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20ITALY%20900-1100.htm#BerengarioIIitalydied966B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Raoul (?)1

M, #94380
ReferenceGAV30
Last Edited10 Apr 2020
     GAV-30.

; Per Med Lands: "RAOUL . The Chronicle of St Bénigne de Dijon names "miles Rodulfus…de Barrensi castro…et filius ipsius Rainardus"[169]. m ---. The name of Raoul’s wife is not known."
Med Lands cites: [169] Chronique de Saint-Bénigne de Dijon, p. 161.1

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambarsein.htm#ErmengardeMMiloIVTonnerre. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.