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     GAV-33.

     Berthe (?) married Gerard (?) Duc d'Aquitaine in 839.¹

      ; Berthe (?); m.839 Ct Gerard, Duc of Aquitaine (+841.)¹

     Gerard (?) Duc d'Aquitaine married Berthe (?), daughter of Pepin I (?) King of Aquitaine and Ringart (?), in 839.¹

     Rather (?) Count of Limoges married unknown (?), daughter of Pepin I (?) King of Aquitaine and Ringart (?).¹
Rather (?) Count of Limoges married Rotrud/Hildegard (?) of the Franks, daughter of Pepin I (?) King of Aquitaine and Ringart (?),
; her 2nd husband.¹
     ; Per Genealogy.EU (Carolin 1): “B3 Rotrude, *800, +ca 841; 1m: Cte Gerard I d'Auvergne (+25.6.841); 2m: Rather de Limoges”.²

     Oda/Uota (?) von Sachsen was born in 877.⁶ She married Zwentibold (?) King of Lorraine, son of Arnulf (?) von Karnten, Duke of Carinthia, Emperor of Germany, on 27 March 897.^2,1,7,8
Oda/Uota (?) von Sachsen married Gerhard/Matfride I (?) Graf im Metzgau, son of Adalhard IV (?) Graf von Metz and Unknown (?), in 900
;
Her 2nd husband.^1,9,10,8 Oda/Uota (?) von Sachsen married Eberhard von der Lahngau Graf im Oberlahngau Pfalzgraf, son of Konrad der Ältere von der Lahngau Graf im Oberlahngau, Hessengau, Gotzfeldgau and Glismut (?), after June 910
;
Her 3rd (?) husband.¹¹
Oda/Uota (?) von Sachsen died after 2 July 952.¹
      ; Per Wikipedia:
     "Oda of Saxony (877 – aft. 952) was a Saxon princess. She was the daughter of Otto I, Duke of Saxony (830/840 – 912) and Hedwiga of Babenberg. She married King Zwentibold of Lotharingia[1] and at his death in August 900 (when Oda was younger than 15), she contracted a second marriage with Count Gerhard I of Metz.[2] From this union were born:
References
1. Brown & Wailes 2013, p. 52.
2. Nash 2017, p. xxvi.
Sources
** Brown, Phyllis R; Wailes, Stephen L., eds. (2013). Companion to Hrotsvit of Gandersheim (fl. 960): Contextual and Interpretive Approaches. Brill.
** Nash, Penelope (2017). Empress Adelheid and Countess Matilda: Medieval Female Rulership and the Foundations of European Society. Palgrave Macmillan."

[See Note Per Med Lands]⁶ GAV-32.

; NB: Per Med Lands (Fanconia), with regard to "EBERHARD Graf im Oberlahngau Pfalzgraf, son of KONRAD Graf in der Wetterau und im Wormsgau [Konradiner] & his wife Glismod":
     "Jackman speculates[216] that Eberhard married (after Jun 910), as her third husband, Oda von Sachsen, widow firstly of Zwentibold King of Lotharingia [Carolingian] and secondly of Graf Gerhard [Matfriede], daughter of Otto “des Erlauchten” Duke [of Saxony] & his wife Hedwig (-2 Jul after 952), for onomastic reasons as the name of Eberhard's supposed daughter (her affiliation also being based only on his own separate onomastic hypothesis) was that of Oda's maternal grandmother. This is an interesting theory but it accumulates one onomastic hypothesis on another and must be considered highly speculative.]"
Med Lands cites: [216] Jackman, D. C. (1997) Criticism and Critique, sidelights on the Konradiner (Oxford Unit for Prosopographical Research), p. 88.

; Per Med Lands:
     "ODA ([884]-[2 Jul] after 952). Jackman speculates that Oda must have been born in [884], although this appears to be designed to fit with his theory about Oda's supposed third marriage[184]. Regino records the marriage in 897 of "Ottonem comitem…filiam Odam" and King Zwentibold[185]. Regino records that "Gerhard comes" married "Odam uxorem Zuendiboldi regis" after killing her first husband in battle in 900[186]. "Otto…rex" confirmed the donation of property " in loco Dauindre…in pago…Hamalant in comitatu Vuigmanni" to St Moritz at Magdeburg by "nostra amita…Uota" by charter dated 30 Dec 952[187]. Jackman speculates[188] that Graf Eberhard married Oda as her third husband, Oda von Sachsen, for onomastic reasons as the name of Eberhard's supposed daughter (her affiliation also being based only on his own separate onomastic hypothesis) was that of Oda's maternal grandmother. This is an interesting theory but it accumulates one onomastic hypothesis on another and must be considered highly speculative.
     "m firstly ([Worms] [27 Mar/13 Jun] 897) ZWENTIBOLD King of Lotharingia [Carolingian], illegitimate son of Emperor ARNULF King of Germany & his mistress --- ([870/71]-killed in battle 13 Aug 900, bur [Süsteren or Echternach]).
     "m secondly (900) Graf GERHARD [Matfride], son of --- (-killed in battle 22 Jun 910). [m thirdly (after Jun 910) EBERHARD Graf im Oberlahngau Pfalzgraf, son of KONRAD Graf in der Wetterau und im Wormsgau [Konradiner] & his wife Glismod --- (-killed in battle near Andernach 23 Oct 939).]"
Med Lands cites:

; Per Genealogy.EU: "Oda; 1m: 897 Zwentibold of Lorraine (+900); 2m: 902 Gérard of Metz"

[See Note Per Med Lands].¹

Reference: Genealgocis cites:

; Per Med Lands:
     "EBERHARD (-killed in battle near Andernach 23 Oct 939). The Chronicon Laureshamense records a declaration of "Chuonradus rex" dated "914 VII Id Iun apud Franchonfort" relating to the freedom of election of abbots in which he names "Eberhardi marchionis fratris nostri"[200]. Widukind names "Evurhardus frater regis"[201]. Thietmar also names Eberhard as brother of King Konrad, when recording that the latter recommended that he support the election of the future King Heinrich I on his deathbed[202]. Lay Abbot of St Maximin at Trier 909. "Hludowicus…rex" granted property to "presbitero Gozbold" at the request of "Chuonradi et Eberhardi comitum" by charter dated 16 Jun 911[203]. "Chuonradus…rex" donated property "in Turgeuue cirtem…Vuihare et in Alpegeuue locum…Sueininga…et in pago Para curtem…Oberendorf" to Kloster St Gallen on the intervention of "Eburhardique germani fratris nostri" by charter dated 14 Mar 912[204]. "Chuonradus…rex" confirmed privileges to Kloster Murbach by charter dated 12 Mar 913 with the consent of "fidelium nostrorum…Erchangarii, Chuonradi, Hugonis, Ottonis, Heinrici, Bopponis, Udalrici, Eberhardi"[205]. Graf im Hessen und Perfgau 913. Graf im Oberlahngau 913 and 928. Markgraf 914: "Chuonradus…rex" granted property "villa Bercheim in comitatu Eberhardi in pago Tuonahgouue" to "capellano Reginolf" by charter dated 4 May 916[206]. "Chuonradus…rex" granted rights to Kloster Lorsch by charter dated 7 Jun 914 which names "coniugis nostre Chunigunde regine"[207]. Duke of Franconia. "Chuonradus…rex" granted property to Udalfrid Bishop of Eichstätt by charter dated 9 Sep 918 at the request of "Eberhardo et Heinricho comitibus"[208]. He submitted to Heinrich I King of Germany, elected in 919 to succeed his deceased brother[209]. "Heinricus…rex" granted property to "in pago Hegouue in eodem comitatu…in loco Siginga" to "Baboni…comitis Burchardi vassallo" after consultation with "Burchardi, Ebarhardi, Chuonradi, Heinrici atque Utonis…comitum" by charter dated 30 Nov 920[210]. A document dated 7 Nov 921 recording a meeting between Charles III "le Simple" King of France and Heinrich I King of Germany names "Evrardus, Chonradus, Herimannus, Hato, Godefredus, Otto, Herimannus, Cobbo, Magenhardus, Fridericus, Foldac" as representatives of the latter[211]. Truchsess 936. Pfalzgraf 938. He rebelled against Otto I "der Große" King of Germany in 938, seized Hellmern, and captured Heinrich, the king's brother, for which he was imprisoned at Hildesheim[212]. He was killed by his cousins, the brothers Hermann I Duke of Swabia and Udo[213]. Regino records that "Eberhardus" was sent into exile in 939 and killed[214]. The necrology of Fulda records the death in 939 of "Eburhart dux"[215].
     "[m ---. Jackman speculates[216] that Eberhard married (after Jun 910), as her third husband, Oda von Sachsen, widow firstly of Zwentibold King of Lotharingia [Carolingian] and secondly of Graf Gerhard [Matfriede], daughter of Otto “des Erlauchten” Duke [of Saxony] & his wife Hedwig (-2 Jul after 952), for onomastic reasons as the name of Eberhard's supposed daughter (her affiliation also being based only on his own separate onomastic hypothesis) was that of Oda's maternal grandmother. This is an interesting theory but it accumulates one onomastic hypothesis on another and must be considered highly speculative.]"
Med Lands cites:

     Richardis (?) married Karl/Charles III "the Fat" (?) King of East Franks, Holy Roman Emperor, son of Ludwig/Louis II 'the German' (?) Holy Roman Emperor and Emma/Hemma (?) of Andech, in 862.¹

      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 96.¹

     Karloman (?) died in 876.¹

     Bernard (?) was born between 881 and 882.¹
Bernard (?) died in 891.^1,3
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 96.³

     Gisela (?) married Erchanger I (?) Graf von Schwaben.⁵

     GAV-30.

; Gisela; m.Erchanger I of Swabia.⁶

; Genealogics cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 80.¹

     Robert (?) Count of Troyes married Gisla/Gisele (?) of Westfranken, daughter of Louis II 'le Bègue/The Stammerer' (?) King of Neustria and the West Franks and Ansgarde (?) de Bourgogne.²

Robert (?) Count of Troyes died in February 866.¹
Robert (?) Count of Troyes died in October 886.²
      ; Per Wikipedia:
     "Robert I (died October 886), called Porte-carquois, was the Count of Troyes. He was a son of Odo I, Count of Troyes, and Wandilmodis.
     "Lay abbot of Saint-Loup, he was mentioned for the first time on 25 October 874, when he appeared in a charter of Charles the Bald ceding Chaource, in Tonnerre, to the abbey. He succeeded his brother Odo II between 876 and 880. He was killed in action against the Vikings to the east of Paris and was succeeded by his nephew Adalelm.
     "He was married to Gisela (died between 879 and 884), daughter of Louis the Stammerer and Ansgard. He left no children.
Sources
-- de Saint Phalle, Édouard. "Comtes de Troyes et de Poitiers au IXe siècle: histoire d’un double échec." In Christian Settipani and Katharine S. B. Keats-Rohan, Onomastique et Parenté dans l'Occident médiéval. 2000.
-- Van Kerrebrouck, Patrick. Nouvelle histoire généalogique de l'auguste maison de France, vol. 1: La Préhistoire des Capétiens. 1993.²

Reference: Leo van de Pas cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 100.¹ Robert (?) Count of Troyes was also known as Robert I (?) Count of Troyes.² He was Count of Troyes between 876 and 886.²

      ; per Phillips: "A daughter, intended to have married William de Warenne"; not known if this is a separate daughter or possibly one of the other illegitimate daughters of Henry I.¹

     Sir James Luttrell Knt., of Dunster Castle, Somerset was born between 1426 and 1427.^1,2,3 He married Elizabeth de Courtenay, daughter of Sir Philip Courtenay Knt., of Powderham Castle and Elizabeth Hungerford, between 13 January 1440 and 1441 at Chudleigh, England,
; license dated 1450 per Richardson.^1,2,7,8,3
Sir James Luttrell Knt., of Dunster Castle, Somerset died between 17 February 1460 and 1461 at St. Albans, Hertfordshire, England; killed in battle.^1,2
      ; van de Pas cites: 1. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, Edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: P 58969
2. Burke's Landed Gentry , Reference: 1437.²

      ; per Richardson: "wife or mistress of Edward de Brus, Knt., Earl of Carrick."³

     Enguerrand III de Coucy Seigneur de Coucy et de Marle, Cte de Roucy et de Perche married Beatrix de Vignory, daughter of Barthelmy de Vignory Sire de Vignory and Elwide (?) de Brienne, in 1201
; his 1st wife.² Enguerrand III de Coucy Seigneur de Coucy et de Marle, Cte de Roucy et de Perche married Richenza/Matilde (?) von Sachsen, Countess of Perche, daughter of Heinrich XII 'der Löwe' (?) Duke of Bavaria & Saxony and Matilda (Maud) (?) of England, Duchess of Saxony, in 1204
; his 2nd wife; her 2nd husband.^6,2,1,7 Enguerrand III de Coucy Seigneur de Coucy et de Marle, Cte de Roucy et de Perche married Marie de Montmirail, daughter of Jean I de Montmirail Chatelain de Cambrai and Helvide de Dampierre Dame de Somsois.^8,1,2

Enguerrand III de Coucy Seigneur de Coucy et de Marle, Cte de Roucy et de Perche died in 1243.¹
      ; Enguerrand III de Coucy, Cte de Roucy et de Perche, +1243; 1m: 1201 Beatrix de Vignory (widow of Cte Jean I de Roucy); 2m: 1204 Matilda of Saxony (*1179 +1209); 3m: Marie de Montmirail, heiress of Montmirail, Meaux, de Cambrai, etc (+ca 1267) dau.of Jean de Montmirail by Helvide de Dampierre; all children were by 3m.² EDV-24.

; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 80,81.¹ Enguerrand III de Coucy Seigneur de Coucy et de Marle, Cte de Roucy et de Perche was also known as Ingelram Lord of Coucy.⁹

     Gillette/Gille de Trainel married Hugues 1er de Vergy seigneur de Vergy, Autrey et Châtel-Censoir, son of Gui de Vergy seigneur de Vergy, Autrey et Beaumont and Alix d'Autrey de Beaumont-sur-Vingeanne et d'Autrey, in 1175.^1,2,5,3,6

Gillette/Gille de Trainel died after 1224.^1,3
     EDV-24.

; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 436.² She was living in 1179.²

     Frederuna (?) Queen of the West Franks was born between 885 and 887; Find A Grave says b. 885; Wikipedia says b. 887.^2,4 She married Charles III "The Simple" (?) King of West Franks, Holy Roman Emperor, son of Louis II 'le Bègue/The Stammerer' (?) King of Neustria and the West Franks and Adélaïde/Adelais (?) of Paris, circa 18 April 907
;
His 1st wife.^8,9,7,10
Frederuna (?) Queen of the West Franks died on 10 February 917 at Lorraine, France (now).^1,2,4,7
Frederuna (?) Queen of the West Franks was buried after 10 February 917 at Saint Remi Badsilica, Reims, Departement de la Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France (now); From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     c.885
     DEATH     10 Feb 917 (aged 31–32)
     French Monarch. Born Frederuna von Sachsen in Goslar, Hanover, the daughter of Count Deitrich Theodoric von Ringelheim Duke of Saxony and Gisela of Lotharingia, and the sister of Beuve II, the Bishop of Chalons-sur-marne. She made a political marriage to Charles III of France in 907, and with him had at least four daughters. Apparently, the lack of an male heir motivated Charles to repudiate her. A reportedly pious woman, she did not remarry, and she had no more impact. She died about age 32 in Lorraine. Bio by: Iola
     Family Members
     Spouse
      Charles III Carolingian 879–929
     BURIAL     Saint Remi Basilica, Reims, Departement de la Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France
     Maintained by: Find A Grave
     Originally Created by: Mike Reed
     Added: 6 Mar 2002
     Find A Grave Memorial 6240884.²
      ; Per Genealogy.EU (Carolin 1): “D5. [2m.] Charles III "the Simplex", King of West Franks (893-923), Emperor (898-929), *17.9.879, +Peronne 7.10.929; 1m: 907 Frederuna (+916/917); 2m: 918/919 Eadgifu of England (*896/902/904, +951/955)”.¹

; Per Med Lands:
     "CHARLES, son of LOUIS II "le Bègue" King of the West Franks & his second wife Adelais (posthumously 17 Sep 879-Péronne 7 Oct 929, bur Péronne, monastère de Saint-Fursy). The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names (in order) "Karolum quoque postumum et Irmintrudim" as children of "Hlodovicus rex…ex Adelheidi regina"[328]. His parentage is also given in the Annalista Saxo[329]. Regino specifies that he was born posthumously[330]. On the death of King Louis II, Emperor Charles III "le Gros" was elected King of the West Franks, and on the latter's death in 888, Eudes [Capet] was elected king. Louis II's son, Charles, sought refuge with Ramnulf II Comte de Poitou[331]. Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles as king in 892 in opposition to King Eudes[332]. Supported by Foucher Archbishop of Reims, he was crowned 28 Jan 893 at Reims as CHARLES III "le Simple" King of the West Franks, as anti-king to Eudes, who later agreed to appoint him as his successor and whom he succeeded from 1 Jan 898. The early years of his reign appear to have been dominated by Viking raids in the north which led to the treaty with Rollo in 911 and the grant of territory in the future duchy of Normandy. He was chosen as CHARLES King of Lotharingia 1 Nov 911, in succession to Ludwig IV "das Kind" King of the East Franks and Lotharingia, representing a significant extension of the royal domain. He used the title "King of the Franks/rex francorum", and later "King of France/rex franciæ". He captured Alsace early in 912, and fought the army of Konrad I King of Germany three times in Lotharingia[333]. From [920], he fell under the influence of Haganon, a Lotharingian described in a charter of 921 as his cousin on his mother's side[334]. This triggered the revolt of Robert Marquis en Neustrie [Capet] and other nobles during which King Charles was obliged to seek refuge with Hérivé Archbishop of Reims. Although the king was restored after seven months, tension continued and Charles's award of the monastery of Chelles to Haganon in 922 triggered another revolt which led to the king's deposition 30 Jun 922 in favour of Robert, who was elected as Robert I King of France. Ex-king Charles fled to Lotharingia. All these events are recorded by Flodoard[335]. He returned, but was defeated at Soissons 15 Jun 923, although King Robert was killed in the battle: Flodoard records in 923 that "Karolus cum suis Lothariensibus" crossed “Mosam...ad Atiniacum...et...super Axonam” where he lost the battle near Soissons in which “Rotbertus...rex” was killed[336]. Raoul de Bourgogne was elected king of France 13 Jul 923. Ex-king Charles was tricked into capture by Héribert II Comte de Vermandois and imprisoned at Château-Thierry: Flodoard records in 923 that "Heribertus comes" sent “Bernardum consobrinum suum” with a delegation “ad Karolum” who was “in castello suo super Somnam apud Sanctum Quintinum”, and who was detained “in...munitionem suam...Castellum Theoderici super Maternam fluvium”[337]. He was transferred in 924 to the château de Péronne, where he remained captive for the rest of his life[338]. He was briefly declared king once more in 927 by Comte Héribert during the latter's unsuccessful attempt to capture Laon[339]. According to Thietmar of Merseburg, Heinrich I King of Germany secured his release from prison and in return was rewarded with "the right hand of St Denis and the entire kingdom of the Lotharingians"[340].
     "m firstly ([1/18] Apr 907) FREDERUNA, sister of BOVO [II] Bishop of Châlons, daughter of --- (-10 Feb 917, bur Reims, église abbatiale de Saint-Rémi). The charter of "Karolus…rex" dated "907 XIII Kal Mai" refers to "quondam nobili prosapia puellam…Frederunam" who had recently become his wife[341]. The charter of "Karolus…rex" dated "917 VII Kal Aug" refers to "nostra uxor Frideruna…frater eius Bovo Catalannensis Antistes Ecclesiæ"[342]. Nothing definite is known about the origins of Bovo, although Flodoard refers to "Berengario Transrhenensi clerico" as "nepoti Bovonis Catalaunensis quondam episcopi" when recording his appointment as Bishop of Cambrai in 956[343]. McKitterick assumes that Frederuna was of Lotharingian origin[344]. Settipani speculates that Queen Frederuna was probably a close relation of Mathilde, second wife of Heinrich I King of Germany[345]. This could be explained if Mathilde's mother, Reginlind, was Queen Frederuna's sister, as hypothesised in the document REIMS. The charter of "Karolus…rex" dated "918 IV Id Feb" refers to the death of "nostræ…coniugis Friderunæ"[346], and the charter dated "918 II Id Mar" that she had died "IV Id Feb"[347]. The necrology of Reims Saint-Rémi records the death "IV Id Feb" of "Frederuna regina"[348].
     "m secondly ([917/19]) as her first husband, EADGIFU, daughter of EDWARD I "the Elder" King of England & his second wife Ælfleda ([902/05]-after 951, bur église Saint-Médard de Soissons). The Genealogica Arnulfi Comitis names "Otgiva" wife of "Karolus rex" after the death of "Frederuna regina"[349]. She fled with her two-year-old son to England in 923 after her husband was deposed, returning to France in 936 after the death of King Raoul. Abbess of Notre-Dame de Laon, this was taken from her 951 by her son on her second marriage. She married secondly (951) Héribert [III] Comte "le Vieux" [de Vermandois] (-980/84). Flodoard records in 951 that “Ottogeba regina mater Ludowici regis” married “Heriberti...Adalberti fratris” and that “rex Ludowicus iratus” confiscated “abbatiam sanctæ Mariæ...Lauduni” from her and donated it to “Gerbergæ uxori suæ”[350].
     "Mistresses: ---. The names of King Charles III's mistresses are not known. "
Med Lands cites:

; Per Genealogy.EU (Carolin 1): “D5. [2m.] Charles III "the Simplex", King of West Franks (893-923), Emperor (898-929), *17.9.879, +Peronne 7.10.929; 1m: 907 Frederuna (+916/917); 2m: 918/919 Eadgifu of England (*896/902/904, +951/955)”.¹¹

Reference: Genealogics cites: Caroli Magni Progenies, Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977 , Rösch, Siegfried. 120.⁷ GAV-32.

; Per Med Lands:
     "FREDERUNA (-10 Feb 917, bur Reims, église abbatiale de Saint-Rémi). The charter of "Karolus…rex" dated "907 XIII Kal Mai" refers to "quondam nobili prosapia puellam…Frederunam" who had recently become his wife[676]. The charter of "Karolus…rex" dated "917 VII Kal Aug" refers to "nostra uxor Frideruna…frater eius Bovo Catalannensis Antistes Ecclesiæ"[677]. Nothing definite is known about the origins of Bovo, although Flodoard refers to "Berengario Transrhenensi clerico" as "nepoti Bovonis Catalaunensis quondam episcopi" when recording his appointment as Bishop of Cambrai in 956[678]. McKitterick assumes that Frederuna was of Lotharingian origin[679]. Settipani speculates that Queen Frederuna was probably a close relation of Mathilde, second wife of Heinrich I King of Germany[680]. This could be explained if Mathilde's mother, Reginlind, was Frederuna's sister, as hypothesised above. The charter of "Karolus…rex" dated "918 IV Id Feb" refers to the death of "nostræ…coniugis Friderunæ"[681], and the charter dated "918 II Id Mar" that she had died "IV Id Feb"[682].
     "m ([1/18] Apr 907) as his first wife, CHARLES III "le Simple" King of the West Franks, son of LOUIS II "le Bègue" King of the West Franks & his second wife Adelais (posthumously 17 Sep 879-Péronne 7 Oct 929, bur Péronne, monastère de Saint-Fursy)."
Med Lands cites:

; NB: Genealogics names "Count Theodoricus" as the father of Frederuna, but gives no other children or wife. On the other hand, Med Lands states:
     "[Four] siblings. They may have been of Danish origin and based in Frisia, if the speculation about the origin of Reginlind, wife of Theoderich, is correct, as she is referred to as "Danorum Fresonumque germine procreatam" (see below). "
     Wikipédia (Fr.) identifies Frédérune as a sister of the Bishop Beuve II (Bovo, Bovon).^6,10,3

     Charles/Karloman (?) de France was born in January 945.^1,2
Charles/Karloman (?) de France died before 953.^1,2
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: I.1 6.¹

     Louis (?) de France was born in December 948.^1,2
Louis (?) de France died before 10 September 954.^1,2
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: I.1 6.¹

     Henri (?) de France died in 953; died shortly aft baptism.¹ He was born in 953.¹
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: I.1 6.¹

     NN (?) de France was born in 948.¹
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: I.1 6.¹

     Adelania (?) married Conrad I "The Peaceful" (?) King of Burgundy, son of Rudolf II (?) King of Upper Burgundy, King of Italy and Berthe (?) of Swabia,
; Med Lands says that "Aldiud" was Contrad's mistress, not his wife.^1,2,3,4
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: II 23.⁵ Adelania (?) was also known as Aldiud (?)

     Otto/Eudes (?) Duke of Lorraine was born circa 975; Genealogy.EU (Carolin 1 page) says b. after 985.^1,2
Otto/Eudes (?) Duke of Lorraine died in 1012.^1,2
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: I.1 6.¹ He was Duke of Lower Lorraine in 991.^2,1

     Louis (?) de Lorraine was born circa 988; Genealogy.EU (Carolin 1 page) says b. after 989.^1,2
Louis (?) de Lorraine died after 993; Genealogy.EU (Carolin 1 page) says d. ca 995.^1,2
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: I.1 6.¹

     Charles (?) de Lorraine was born in 989.^1,2
Charles (?) de Lorraine died after 991.¹
      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: I.1 6.¹

     ; NB: The identify of Robert's wife is uncertain.
     Genealogics says: "_Europäische Stammtafeln_ give her as Ermengarde de Lorraine, daughter of Otto, duke of Lorraine."
Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 7:68
     Med Lands says: "Thierry Stasser suggests that she may have been [Liutgarde], daughter of Adalbert Graf [von Metz], emphasising that this is purely speculative based only on onomastics[21]."
Med Lands cites: Stasser, T. 'L'épouse de Robert I de Namur: Essai d'identification', Keats-Rohan, K. S. B. and Settipani, C. (eds.) (2000) Onomastique et Parenté dans l'Occident medieval (Prosopographica et Genealogica, Vol. 3), p. 115.
I have chosen to follow the Med Lands lineage. GA Vaut.^5,6,7

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 68.²

; dau.of Duke Otto of Lorraine.¹

      ; Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 68.²