Osburh/Osburga (?)1

F, #4291, b. 810, d. circa 852
FatherOslac (?) of Hampshire, the Royal Cup Bearer, of the Isle of Wight1
ReferenceGAV31 EDV32
Last Edited18 Nov 2003
     Osburh/Osburga (?) was born in 810 at Wessex, England.2 She married Aethelwulf (?) King of Wessex, son of Egbert (?) King of Wessex and Redburga (Raedburh) (?), circa 830.3,1
Osburh/Osburga (?) died circa 852; Genealogy.EU (Cerdic 1 page) says d. 852/4.3,1
     GAV-31 EDV-32 GKJ-31.

Osburh/Osburga (?) (an unknown value.)2,4 Osburh/Osburga (?) was also known as Osburga (?)5

Family

Aethelwulf (?) King of Wessex b. c 795, d. 13 Jan 858
Children

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Cerdic 1 page (The House of Cerdic): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/cerdic1.html
  2. [S584] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family # 0167 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).
  3. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), pp. 298, 316-317. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
  4. [S586] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family #3809 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).
  5. [S1373] The Official Site of the British Monarchy, online http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/Page1.asp, http://www.royal.gov.uk/files/pdf/wessex.pdf "Kings of Wessex and England: 802-1066". Hereinafter cited as British Monarchy Site.
  6. [S761] John Cannon and Ralph Griffiths, The Oxford Illiustrated History of the British Monarchy (Great Clarendon Street, Oxford OX2 6DP, United Kingdom: Oxford University Press, 1998), p. 44. Hereinafter cited as Cannon & Griffiths, British Monarchy 1998.
  7. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Cerdic 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/cerdic1.html
  8. [S761] John Cannon and Ralph Griffiths, Cannon & Griffiths, British Monarchy 1998, appendix.

Redburga (Raedburh) (?)1,2

F, #4292, b. 788
Motherunknown (?)3
ReferenceGAV32
Last Edited5 Sep 2007
     Redburga (Raedburh) (?) married Egbert (?) King of Wessex, son of Ealhmund (?) King of Kent.4,2 Redburga (Raedburh) (?) was born in 788 at Wessex, England.5,6
     Redburga (Raedburh) (?) Wednesday, 6 September, 2006


Hello All,

The subject of Redburh (Rædburh, also Redburga), wife of
Egbert of Wessex (King of Wessex 802-839), and her ancestry has
been a matter of debate for some time. Described by "regis
Francorum sororia" [ sister of the king of the Franks ] in an early, but possibly not contemporary,
record, she has been variously identified as a sister or
sister-in-law of Charlemagne [1].

Something Chico Doria wrote in 1998 struck a cord the other
day. He suggested that the name Redburh sounded 'Robertinian',
i.e. similar to names found in the family of the Counts of Paris
(ancestors of the Capetian Kings of France). In particular, he
queried as to the equation or derivation, " Raedburh < ?
Hrodtburga or something similar " [2]. This suggestion deserves
further exploration, and certainly presents a good possibility
for the origin of Redburh.

Louis the Pious, king of the Franks (Holy Roman Emperor) was
married to his first wife Ermengarde in 794, with their issue
having been born during the period 795-805. As Louis was born in
778, it is reasonable to assume that Ermengarde was born say
778-780, and that she was likely aged between 16 and 17 (no less
than 15) when their first son Lothar was born in 795. This
reasonably parallels the family of Egbert. He was most
likely married to Redburh during his exile on the Continent,
between 799 and (probably no later than) 802. The birth date of
Egbert's son Ethelwulf is usually placed between 802 and 806,
although I have not noted a contemporary source for same.

While it is true that Charlemagne was King of the Franks
during the period that Egbert was in exile, it is also true that
his son Louis succeeded him as King of the Franks in 814, and
ruled as same (as well as Emperor) for 26 years, until his
death in 840. Louis and Egbert were more likely of the same
approximate age than say Charlemagne and Egbert: the greater
likelihood would be that the two would have married ladies of
a similar age (or younger).

Part of the uncertainty here derives from the dating of the
Trinity College MS cited by Searle. The question here is, how
contemporaneous was the document to the early 9th century, and
how best to interpret the term 'regis Francorum'? If the
meaning is the straightforward traditional approach, certainly
Charlemagne was intended: however, if the meaning is that
Redburh was sister-in-law to he who was King of the Franks when
the author of the MS wrote this entry, that could well mean
Louis, and not Charlemagne. Certainly, the careers of Louis
and Egbert would make their being 'brothers-in-law' more
likely than Charlemagne and Egbert.

The family of the Robertines (or the Counts of Hesbaye as
you may prefer) is now better understood, thanks to the work
of Christian Settipani and several others. If the name Redburh
is a Wessex rendering of Hrodtburga, or Chrodburga, it would
certainly point towards the possibility of a connection to
the family of Chrodegang, Bishop of Metz [see table below].
Given the problems in dealing with this family to date, the
possibility of a daughter of Count Ingram (father-in-law of
Louis the Pious) of the name Chrodburga being otherwise
unaccounted for in Frankish records is certainly believable.
Chico's suggestion, in addition to some onomastic support,
would (based on chronology and the Trinity College text) point
towards a sister-in-law of Louis the Pious as the best
candidate for Egbert's wife.

The following chart illustrates the conjecture relationship
(Redburh's connection to Ermengarde shown as a broken line
_ _ _ _).



NN = Landrada
__________________I______________________
I I I
Chrodegang NN Chrodbert
Bishop of Metz " fratris [Robert]
d. 766 Hruotgangi " I
I I
I I
Charlemagne = (2) Hildegarde Count Ingram Robert
d. 814 I of Hesbaye C of Worms
I I d. 822
____I __________I_ _ _ I
I I I I
Louis 'the Pious' = 1) Ermengarde ?Chrodburga? Robert
King of the Franks I (m. 794) (rex Francorum) I d. 818 Rædburh> d. 866
814-840 I = Egbert I
b. 778; d. 840 I (m. 799x802) V
I d. 838/839
I I
__________________I_________ _____I_________
I I I I I I I
Lothar Pepin I Rotrude Louis Ethelwulf Ethelstan
fl. ___I fl. <Æthelwulf> <Æthelstan>
795-855 I 805-876 b. ca. 802- d. 850
Hildegarde 806
d. 858



There is no noted issue concerning consanguinity, as least
insofar as has been noted as yet. Ethelwulf, son of Egbert and
Redburh, was married (2ndly) to Judith, daughter of Charles
(the Bald), King of France and son of Louis 'the Pious'.
However, Charles was the son of Louis by his 2nd wife Judith.
Judith (the wife of Ethelwulf) was not related to Redburh.

There are possibly similar names in other families. By his
3rd wife Chruodhaid, Charles Martel had a son Bernhard, and
allegedly Bernhard's daughter Rothais (or Chruodhaid) was the
concubine of her cousin Pepin, King of Italy (d. 810, brother
of Louis the Pious). While the title 'king of the Franks' in
the Trinity College MS cited by Searle seems definitive, the
matter cannot be shown as proven.

Cheers,

John *


NOTES

[1] William George Searle, Anglo-Saxon Bishops, Kings and Nobles:
The Succession of the Bishops and the Pedigrees of the Kings
and Nobles [Cambridge: the University Press, 1899], p. 343.
Text and annotations (entitled Anglo-Saxon Pedigrees
Annotated-Part 1, transcribed by Michael Wood) courtesy
Foundation for Medieval Genealogy, http://fmg.ac/

See the SGM archives for numerous discussions on this issue.


[2] Francisco Antonio Doria, of 'sororia'>, SGM, 9 June 1998.



* John P. Ravilious.7

GAV-32. Redburga (Raedburh) (?) was also known as Eadburh.3

Redburga (Raedburh) (?) Stone (2000) chart 10-12: "...'regis Francorum sororia' i.e., a relative (probably daughter or grandaughter) of a sister of the King of the Franks; possibly identical to St. Ida."5,6

Family

Egbert (?) King of Wessex b. 775, d. a 19 Nov 839
Children

Citations

  1. [S761] John Cannon and Ralph Griffiths, The Oxford Illiustrated History of the British Monarchy (Great Clarendon Street, Oxford OX2 6DP, United Kingdom: Oxford University Press, 1998), appendix. Hereinafter cited as Cannon & Griffiths, British Monarchy 1998.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Cerdic 1 page (The House of Cerdic): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/cerdic1.html
  3. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), pp. 298, 313-316. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
  4. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 73, ENGLAND 13. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  5. [S584] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family # 0167 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).
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  7. [S2097] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 6 Sept 2006: "The origins of Redburh or Rædburh (a conjecture)"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 6 Sept 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 6 Sept 2006."
  8. [S1361] Mike Ashley, Ashley (1998) - British Kings, pp. 468 (Chart 30), 226.

Eafa (?)1,2

M, #4293, b. 732
FatherEoppa (?) b. 706
ReferenceGAV34 EDV35
Last Edited19 Feb 2003
     Eafa (?) was born in 732 at Wessex, England.3,4
     GAV-34 EDV-35 GKJ-34.

Eafa (?) Eafa, son of Eoppa, did not rule.5

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 73, ENGLAND 11. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), p. 298. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
  3. [S584] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family # 0167 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).
  4. [S586] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family #3809 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).
  5. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 1-9, p. 1. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.

Eoppa (?)1,2

M, #4294, b. 706
FatherIngeld (?)3 b. 680, d. 718
MotherAethelberga (?)3 b. c 675
ReferenceGAV35 EDV35
Last Edited15 Jul 2004
     Eoppa (?) was born in 706 at Wessex, England.4,5
     GAV-35 EDV-35 GKJ-35.

Eoppa (?) Eoppa, son of Ingild, father of Eafa, did not rule.6

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 73, ENGLAND 10. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), p. 298. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
  3. [S1646] Alasdair Friend, "Friend email 7 July 2004: " DFA: Scipio - Philagrius - Alfred"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 7 July 2004, Provides theoretical descent from Scipio Africanus to Alfred the Great, suggested by M. Settipani's latest book about the nobility of the Midi. Hereinafter cited as "Friend email 7 July 2004."
  4. [S584] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family # 0167 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).
  5. [S586] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family #3809 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).
  6. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 1-9, p. 1. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.

Ingeld (?)1,2

M, #4295, b. 680, d. 718
FatherCenred (?) b. 644
ReferenceGAV36 EDV37
Last Edited15 Jul 2004
     Ingeld (?) was born in 680 at Wessex, England; Ajcffriend says b. ca 670.3 He married Aethelberga (?), daughter of Wihtred (?) King of Kent, circa 694.4
Ingeld (?) died in 718.5,1
     GAV-36 EDV-37 GKJ-36.

Ingeld (?) Ingild, d. 718, son of Cenred and father of Eoppa, did not rule. From the Anglo Saxon Chronicle: "A.D. 718. This year died Ingild, the brother of Ina." Ina reigned thirty-seven winters, fought at Warborough, 715, and in 728, "went to Rome, and there gave up the ghost." "A.D. 688. Ina was the son of Cenred, Cenred of Ceolwald; Ceolwald was the brother of Cynegils; and both were the sons of Cuthwin, who was the son of Ceawlin; Ceawlin was the son of Cynric, and Cynric of Cerdic ... . 854. And Ethelwulf was the son of Egbert, Egbert of Eahlmund, Eahlmund of Eafa, Eafa of Eoppa, Eoppa of Ingild; Ingild was the brother of Ina, King of the West Saxons, who held that kingdom thirty-seven winters, and afterwards went to St. Peter, where he died. And they were the sons of Cenred, Cenred of Ceolwald, Ceolwald of Cutha, Cutha of Cuthwine, Cuthwine of Ceawlin, Ceawlin of Cynric, Cynric of (Creoda, Creoda of) Cerdic."6,7

Family

Aethelberga (?) b. c 675
Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 73, ENGLAND 9. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), p. 298. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
  3. [S1646] Alasdair Friend, "Friend email 7 July 2004: " DFA: Scipio - Philagrius - Alfred"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 7 July 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Friend email 7 July 2004."
  4. [S1646] Alasdair Friend, "Friend email 7 July 2004," e-mail to e-mail address, 7 July 2004, Provides theoretical descent from Scipio Africanus to Alfred the Great, suggested by M. Settipani's latest book about the nobility of the Midi.
  5. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 1-9, p. 1. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  6. [S584] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family # 0167 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).
  7. [S586] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family #3809 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).

Cenred (?)1,2

M, #4296, b. 644
FatherCeolwald (?) b. 622
ReferenceGAV37 EDV38
Last Edited19 Feb 2003
     Cenred (?) was born in 644 at Wessex, England.
     GAV-37 EDV-38 GKJ-37.

Cenred (?) Cenred, son of Ceolwald, and father of King Ina and Ingild, did not rule.3,4

Family

Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 73, ENGLAND 8. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), p. 298. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
  3. [S584] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family # 0167 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).
  4. [S586] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family #3809 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).
  5. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001), p. 73, ENGLAND 8:i.

Ceolwald (?)1,2

M, #4297, b. 622
FatherCuthwulf (Cutha) (?) b. 600
ReferenceGAV38 EDV39
Last Edited19 Feb 2003
     Ceolwald (?) was born in 622 at Wessex, England.
     GAV-38 EDV-39 GKJ-38.

Ceolwald (?) Ceolwald, did not rule. He visited Rome 688. King Cynegils, his brother, was baptized, 635, by Bishop Birinus at Dorchester.3,4

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 73, ENGLAND 7. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), p. 298. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
  3. [S584] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family # 0167 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).
  4. [S586] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family #3809 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).

Cuthwulf (Cutha) (?)1,2

M, #4298, b. 600
FatherCuthwine (Cutha) (?) Prince of Essex b. 564, d. 584
ReferenceGAV39 EDV40
Last Edited19 Feb 2003
     Cuthwulf (Cutha) (?) was born in 600 at Wessex, England.3
     GAV-39 EDV-40 GKJ-39.

Cuthwulf (Cutha) (?) Cutha, or Cuthwulf, son of Cuthwine and father of Ceolwald and the younger Cynegils, did not rule.4,3

Family

Children

Citations

  1. [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 73, ENGLAND 6. Hereinafter cited as Boyer, Med English Ancestors (2001).
  2. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), p. 298. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
  3. [S586] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family #3809 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).
  4. [S584] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family # 0167 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).

Iseult (?)1

F, #4299, b. circa 1282, d. after 18 May 1324
ReferenceEDV19 GKJ20
Last Edited29 Aug 2019
     Iseult (?) married John VI le Strange 2nd Lord Strange of Knokyn, son of Sir John V le Strange Knt., 1st Lord Strange of Knockyn and Maud de Walton.1 Iseult (?) was born circa 1282.
Iseult (?) died after 18 May 1324.1
     EDV-19 GKJ-20.

Iseult (?) (an unknown value.)2,3 Iseult (?) was also known as Iselt (?)

Family

John VI le Strange 2nd Lord Strange of Knokyn b. c 1282, d. b 6 Feb 1310/11
Children

Citations

  1. [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Saint Davids Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
  2. [S835] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=christos, Jr. Rev. Christos Christou (unknown location), downloaded updated 26 Feb 2007, http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=christos&id=I14954
  3. [S677] Jr. Christos Christou, GEDCOM file imported on 12 Feb 1999. Supplied by Christos Christou, Jr. - e-mail address (n.p.: Christos Christou, Jr.
    303 Nicholson Road
    Baltimore, MD 21221-6609
    Email: e-mail address, 1999).
  4. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Le Strange, 3rd Lord Strange of Knockyn: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00672994&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Leo's Genealogics Website.

Cynegils (?)

M, #4300
FatherCuthwulf (Cutha) (?) b. 600
Last Edited5 Mar 2004
     Cynegils (?) (an unknown value.)1

Citations

  1. [S584] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family # 0167 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).

Aethelred I (?) King of Wessex1

M, #4301, b. circa 837, d. 23 April 871
FatherAethelwulf (?) King of Wessex1 b. c 795, d. 13 Jan 858
MotherOsburh/Osburga (?)1 b. 810, d. c 852
ReferenceGAV30 EDV30
Last Edited3 Sep 2014
     Aethelred I (?) King of Wessex was born circa 837; Genealogy.EU (Cerdic 1 page) says b. ca 840.2,1 He married Wilfrid (?) between 867 and 868.2,1
Aethelred I (?) King of Wessex died on 23 April 871 at Witchampton, near Wimborne, England.3,2,1
Aethelred I (?) King of Wessex was buried after 23 April 871 at Wimborne Minster, Dorsetshire, England.1
     GAV-30 EDV-30. He was King of Wessex: [Ashley, p. 318-319] ATHELRED (I) Wessex, 865/6-23 April 871. The third son of ATHELWOLF, he was born about the year 837. His father had bequeathed Wessex to Athelred in his will, should ATHELBALD die childless, but Athelred had probably not expected to become king. He had little time to think about the consequences, for from the start of his reign he was confronted with a series of Danish raids and invasions, which had become considerably more aggressive since the coordinated attacks of IVARR THE BONELESS and his brother HALFDAN. These two Danes lived in Dublin from where they co-coordinated their fleet, but they became incensed when their father Ragnar Lodbrok, who had been harrying the eastern coat of Britain for the last year, and had wintered during 865/6 in East Anglia, was killed in York by AELLE. The two brothers now brought all their forces to bear upon England. They conquered York in November 866, rebuffing a counter-attack by AELLE in March 867. Deira became a Viking kingdom (Jorvik). The army marched south and occupied Nottingham. BURGRED of Mercia sought Athelred's help in dislodging the Danes but this proved impossible, and they were forced to negotiate. The Danes returned to York in 868 and then sailed south to East Anglia in 869, where the local king EDMUND was killed. By 870 they were prepared to advance on Wessex. They were now joined by another army under the leadership of GUTHRUM. This was a major invasion force. If the Danes could conquer Wessex, England would fall to them. The first battle was at Reading, where the Danes occupied a royal villa. The ealdorman Athelwolf, who had bravely fought the Danes on several previous occasions, met them again at Englefield, where he put a raiding party to flight. However, a few days later the Danes caught the Saxons by surprise and Athelwolf was killed. Athelred and his brother ALFRED had just arrived at this point and only narrowly escaped. The Saxon forces regrouped at Ashdown in Wiltshire, which was the site of the next engagement. The Saxons celebrated this as a victory, because they killed many of the Danish earls including one of their kings, Bacseg, but the Danes were able to regroup just two weeks later for the battle of Basing, and this time the Danes were victorious. The winter of 870/87 1 was a harrowing one in England as the Danes sacked and plundered their way through the countryside. The next major engagement was in early 871 at Meredune, believed to be Martin in Hampshire. This was another indecisive battle, with considerable slaughter on both sides, and the advantage going first to the Saxons but ultimately to the Danes. Athelred was seriously injured in the battle and died of his wounds a few weeks later at Witchampton, near Wimborne, where he was buried. The nation had no time for mourning, although the shock of Athelred's death must have reverberated about the kingdom. He had married Wulfrida in 867 or 868 and had two infant sons (see ATHELWOLD), but their future looked bleak. As the spring of 871 came to England the fate of the Saxons rested in the hands of one man: Alfred. between 866 and 23 April 871.4,5,2

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Cerdic 1 page (The House of Cerdic): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/cerdic1.html
  2. [S1361] Mike Ashley, The Mammoth Book of British Kings & Queens (New York: Carroll & Graf Publishers, Inc., 1998), pp. 298, 318-319. Hereinafter cited as Ashley (1998) - British Kings.
  3. [S761] John Cannon and Ralph Griffiths, The Oxford Illiustrated History of the British Monarchy (Great Clarendon Street, Oxford OX2 6DP, United Kingdom: Oxford University Press, 1998), appendix. Hereinafter cited as Cannon & Griffiths, British Monarchy 1998.
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 1B-15, p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  5. [S1224] General Editor Peter N. Stearns, The Encyclopedia of World History, Sixth Edition (Boston: Houghton Mifflin Company, 2001), p. 181. Hereinafter cited as The Encyclopedia of World History, 6th Ed.
  6. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I2763
  7. [S1361] Mike Ashley, Ashley (1998) - British Kings, pp. 468 (Chart 30), 461.

Landry (?) Seigneur de Beaugency

M, #4302
ReferenceGAV27 EDV27
Last Edited8 Aug 2009
     GAV-27 EDV-27 GKJ-28.

Landry (?) Seigneur de Beaugency (an unknown value.)1

Citations

  1. [S584] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family # 0167 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).

Lancelin 1er (Landry) de Beaugency seigneur de Beaugency et de la Flèche1,2,3

M, #4303, d. 1055
FatherLandry (?) Seigneur de Beaugency
ReferenceGAV26 EDV26
Last Edited8 Aug 2009
     Lancelin 1er (Landry) de Beaugency seigneur de Beaugency et de la Flèche married Alberge (?)4 Lancelin 1er (Landry) de Beaugency seigneur de Beaugency et de la Flèche married Paule (?) du Maine, daughter of Herbert I "Eveille-Chien" (?) Comte de Maine, circa 1040; per The Henry Project: "[OV x, 8 (v. 5, pp. 228-9] It is not certain whether the claim of the lords of La Flèche to Maine came through Paula or through Jean's mother."5,6,7,2,3
Lancelin 1er (Landry) de Beaugency seigneur de Beaugency et de la Flèche died in 1055.1
     GAV-26 EDV-26 GKJ-27.

Lancelin 1er (Landry) de Beaugency seigneur de Beaugency et de la Flèche Leo van de Pas cites: The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 175.1 He was living between 1051 and 1060.3

Family 1

Alberge (?)
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lancelin I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029098&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Leo's Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet, online http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/henry.htm, Jean de La Flèche (Johannes de Fissa): http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/john0000.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaugency.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 119-23, p. 107. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  5. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Paule du Maine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029099&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jean: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029107&tree=LEO
  7. [S1702] The Henry Project, online http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/henry.htm, Paula: http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/paula000.htm
  8. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lancelin II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029100&tree=LEO

Lancelin II (Landry) de Beaugency seigneur de Beaugency1,2

M, #4304, b. circa 1020, d. after 24 September 1098
FatherLancelin 1er (Landry) de Beaugency seigneur de Beaugency et de la Flèche3,1,2 d. 1055
MotherAlberge (?)
ReferenceGAV26
Last Edited8 Aug 2009
     Lancelin II (Landry) de Beaugency seigneur de Beaugency married Alberga (?)1 Lancelin II (Landry) de Beaugency seigneur de Beaugency was born circa 1020.1
Lancelin II (Landry) de Beaugency seigneur de Beaugency died after 24 September 1098.4,1
     GAV-26 EDV-26.

Lancelin II (Landry) de Beaugency seigneur de Beaugency Leo van de Pas cites: 1. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 175
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIII 45.1

Lancelin II (Landry) de Beaugency seigneur de Beaugency In 1079 he founded the religious house of Saint-Sepulchre de Baugency. in 1079.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lancelin II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029100&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Leo's Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaugency.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lancelin I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029098&tree=LEO
  4. [S584] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family # 0167 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).
  5. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnès de Beaugency: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029103&tree=LEO
  6. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 119-23, p. 107. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  7. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hildegarde de Beaugency: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020350&tree=LEO
  8. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raoul I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029102&tree=LEO

Alberga (?)

F, #4305
ReferenceGAV26 EDV26
Last Edited8 Apr 2004
     Alberga (?) married Lancelin II (Landry) de Beaugency seigneur de Beaugency, son of Lancelin 1er (Landry) de Beaugency seigneur de Beaugency et de la Flèche and Alberge (?).1
     GAV-26 EDV-26 GKJ-27.

Alberga (?) (an unknown value.)2

Citations

  1. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lancelin II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029100&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Leo's Genealogics Website.
  2. [S584] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family # 0167 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).
  3. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnès de Beaugency: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029103&tree=LEO
  4. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 119-23, p. 107. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  5. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hildegarde de Beaugency: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020350&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raoul I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029102&tree=LEO

Raoul I de Beaugency Seigneur de Beaugency1,2,3,4

M, #4306, b. circa 1068, d. 1113
FatherLancelin II (Landry) de Beaugency seigneur de Beaugency2,5,3 b. c 1020, d. a 24 Sep 1098
MotherAlberga (?)2
ReferenceGAV25 EDV25
Last Edited8 Aug 2009
     Raoul I de Beaugency Seigneur de Beaugency was born circa 1068.1,3 He married Mathilde (?) before 1069; his 1st wife.3 Raoul I de Beaugency Seigneur de Beaugency married Mahaut/Mathilda de Vermandois dame de Crépy, daughter of Hugh I Magnus de Crepi (?) Duke of France and Burgundy, Count of Amiens, Chaumont, Valois, Vermandois etc. and Adelaide/Aelis (?) comtesse de Vermandois, Valois et Crépy), in 1090; his 2nd wife.1,2,3
Raoul I de Beaugency Seigneur de Beaugency died in 1113; Leo van de Pas says d. va 1115; Racines et Histoire syas d. 1130 (ou 1113 ?)1,2,3
     GAV-25 EDV-25.

Raoul I de Beaugency Seigneur de Beaugency Leo van de pas cites: 1. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 175
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIII 45.6,2 He was Crusader, with Robert, comte de Flandres in 1096.3

Family 1

Mathilde (?)

Family 2

Mahaut/Mathilda de Vermandois dame de Crépy b. 1080
Children

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 8 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet8.html
  2. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raoul I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029102&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Leo's Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaugency.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaugency.pdf, p. 3.
  5. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lancelin II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029100&tree=LEO
  6. [S584] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family # 0167 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).
  7. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mahaut de Beaugency: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046844&tree=LEO
  8. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes de Beaugency: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028228&tree=LEO

Mahaut/Mathilda de Vermandois dame de Crépy1,2

F, #4307, b. 1080
FatherHugh I Magnus de Crepi (?) Duke of France and Burgundy, Count of Amiens, Chaumont, Valois, Vermandois etc.1,2 b. 1057, d. 18 Oct 1101
MotherAdelaide/Aelis (?) comtesse de Vermandois, Valois et Crépy)1,2 b. 1050, d. 23 Sep 1124
ReferenceGAV25 EDV25
Last Edited8 Aug 2009
     Mahaut/Mathilda de Vermandois dame de Crépy was born in 1080.1 She married Raoul I de Beaugency Seigneur de Beaugency, son of Lancelin II (Landry) de Beaugency seigneur de Beaugency and Alberga (?), in 1090; his 2nd wife.1,3,2
     GAV-25 EDV-25.

Family

Raoul I de Beaugency Seigneur de Beaugency b. c 1068, d. 1113
Children

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 8 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet8.html
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaugency.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raoul I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029102&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Leo's Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaugency.pdf, p. 3.
  5. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mahaut de Beaugency: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00046844&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes de Beaugency: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028228&tree=LEO

Hugh I Magnus de Crepi (?) Duke of France and Burgundy, Count of Amiens, Chaumont, Valois, Vermandois etc.1,2,3,4,5

M, #4308, b. 1057, d. 18 October 1101
FatherHenri I (?) King of France2,3,4 b. 1006, d. 4 Aug 1060
MotherAnna Agnesa Yaroslavna (?) Grand Duchess of Kiev, Regent of France2,3,4 b. c 1024, d. a 1075
ReferenceGAV25 EDV24
Last Edited26 Dec 2013
     Hugh I Magnus de Crepi (?) Duke of France and Burgundy, Count of Amiens, Chaumont, Valois, Vermandois etc. was born in 1057 at Vermandois, France.5,3,4 He married Adelaide/Aelis (?) comtesse de Vermandois, Valois et Crépy), daughter of Herbert IV (?) Comte de Vermandois et de Valois and Adela (?) Comtesse de Valois, after 1067.4,6,7,3,5
Hugh I Magnus de Crepi (?) Duke of France and Burgundy, Count of Amiens, Chaumont, Valois, Vermandois etc. died on 18 October 1101 at Tarsus, Cilicia, Turkey (now); Genealogy.EU (Capet 8 page) say d. 1102.3,4,5
Hugh I Magnus de Crepi (?) Duke of France and Burgundy, Count of Amiens, Chaumont, Valois, Vermandois etc. was buried after 18 October 1101 at Cathedral of St. Paul, Tarsus, Turkey (now).4,8
     GAV-25 EDV-24 GKJ-25.

Hugh I Magnus de Crepi (?) Duke of France and Burgundy, Count of Amiens, Chaumont, Valois, Vermandois etc. weis AR 53-23.9 He was Count of Valois.3 He was Marquis of Orleans, Count of Amiens, Chaumont, Paris, Valois and Vermandois.10 He was Count of Vermandois.3,11,12,13,14,15 Hugh I Magnus de Crepi (?) Duke of France and Burgundy, Count of Amiens, Chaumont, Valois, Vermandois etc. was also known as d’Hugues «Le Maisné» (?) de France, comte de Vermandois.16 He was A leader of the 1st Crusade circa 1101.4

Citations

  1. [S752] Marcellus Donald Alexander R. von Redlich, compiler, Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. I (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1941 (1988 reprint)), p. 124. Hereinafter cited as Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. I.
  2. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 53-23, p. 57. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  3. [S1426] Jiri Louda (Tables) and Michael Maclagan (text), Lines of Succession: Heraldry of the Royal Families of Europe (NY: Barnes & Noble Books, 2002), Table 61: France - Early Capetian Kings. Hereinafter cited as Louda & Maclagan [2002] Lines of Succession.
  4. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet4.html
  5. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Capet 8 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet8.html
  6. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adelaide: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00050024&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Leo's Genealogics Website.
  7. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 50-23, pp. 51-52.
  8. [S1574] Chris Phillips, "Phillips email 22 Jan 2004 "Re: When DID he die?"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 22 Jan 2004, Runciman on that page, in a chapter on "The Crusades of 1101", describes the Battle of Heraclea, early September 1101, and says this of Hugh: "Hugh of Vermandois was badly wounded in the battle; but some of his men rescued him and he too reached Tarsus. But he was a dying man. His death took place on 18 October and they buried him there in the Cathedral of St Paul. He never fulfilled his vow to go to Jerusalem."

    Runciman's sources for this section are "Albert of Aix, VIII, 34-40, pp. 579-82 (the only full source); Ekkehard, XXIV-XXVI, pp. 30-2". If you'd like to follow this to source, both these are available on the gallica website, in the "Recueil des historiens des croisades series" - put these numbers into the "Recherche libre" field on the search page: N051574 for Albert; N051575 for Ekkehard.. Hereinafter cited as "Phillips email 22 Jan 2004."
  9. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 53-23, pp. 57-58.
  10. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 141-23, p. 124.
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  16. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Blois-Champagne.pdf, p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  17. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaugency.pdf, p. 2.
  18. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf, p. 8.

Adelaide/Aelis (?) comtesse de Vermandois, Valois et Crépy)1,2,3,4,5

F, #4309, b. 1050, d. 23 September 1124
FatherHerbert IV (?) Comte de Vermandois et de Valois1,2,3,4,6 b. c 1032, d. c 1080
MotherAdela (?) Comtesse de Valois1,3,6,7 b. 1032, d. 1080
ReferenceGAV25 EDV24
Last Edited26 Dec 2013
     Adelaide/Aelis (?) comtesse de Vermandois, Valois et Crépy) was born in 1050 at Vermandois, Normandy, France.8,3 She married Hugh I Magnus de Crepi (?) Duke of France and Burgundy, Count of Amiens, Chaumont, Valois, Vermandois etc., son of Henri I (?) King of France and Anna Agnesa Yaroslavna (?) Grand Duchess of Kiev, Regent of France, after 1067.9,6,1,2,4 Adelaide/Aelis (?) comtesse de Vermandois, Valois et Crépy) married Renaud II (?) Cte de Clermont-en-Beauvais, son of Hugues/Hugh de Creil dit «de Mouchy» (?) Comte de Clermont-en-Beauvaisis and Marguerite de Montdidier of Roucy, before 1103.1,6,10
Adelaide/Aelis (?) comtesse de Vermandois, Valois et Crépy) died circa 1120.11,1
Adelaide/Aelis (?) comtesse de Vermandois, Valois et Crépy) died on 23 September 1124 at Meulan, France.3,6
     Adelaide/Aelis (?) comtesse de Vermandois, Valois et Crépy) weis 50-23.1 GAV-25 EDV-24 GKJ-25.

Adelaide/Aelis (?) comtesse de Vermandois, Valois et Crépy) Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III/1 55
2. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to Amercia bef.1700 7th Edition, Frederick Lewis Weis, Reference: 51.6

Adelaide/Aelis (?) comtesse de Vermandois, Valois et Crépy) (an unknown value.)12,13,14,15

Family 2

Renaud II (?) Cte de Clermont-en-Beauvais b. 1108, d. 1162
Child

Citations

  1. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
    Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 50-23, pp. 51-52. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7.
  2. [S1426] Jiri Louda (Tables) and Michael Maclagan (text), Lines of Succession: Heraldry of the Royal Families of Europe (NY: Barnes & Noble Books, 2002), Table 61: France - Early Capetian Kings. Hereinafter cited as Louda & Maclagan [2002] Lines of Succession.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html
  4. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Capet 8 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet8.html
  5. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Blois-Champagne.pdf, p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  6. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adelaide: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00050024&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Leo's Genealogics Website.
  7. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adèle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00050026&tree=LEO
  8. [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Weis AR-7, line 140-24, p. 123.
  9. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Capet 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet4.html
  10. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Renaud II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00358831&tree=LEO
  11. [S639] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 6 Oct 2000 from World Family Tree Vol. L1, Ed. 1, Family #0017 (n.p.: Release date: October 30, 1998, unknown publish date).
  12. [S584] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family # 0167 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).
  13. [S599] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 28 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 14, Ed. 1, family # 1829 (n.p.: Release date: October 20, 1997, unknown publish date).
  14. [S616] Inc. Br²derbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 26 Dec 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 18, Ed. 1, Family #18-0770 (n.p.: Release date: March 27, 1998, unknown publish date).
  15. [S636] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 6 Oct 2000 from World Family Tree Vol. L1, Ed. 1, Family #0043 (n.p.: Release date: October 30, 1998, unknown publish date).
  16. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaugency.pdf, p. 2.
  17. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf, p. 8.
  18. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Denmark 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/denmark/denmark2.html
  19. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marguerite de Clermont: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00482400&tree=LEO
  20. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf, p. 7.

Agnes de Beaugency1,2

F, #4310, b. circa 1108, d. before 1192
FatherRaoul I de Beaugency Seigneur de Beaugency1,3,2 b. c 1068, d. 1113
MotherMahaut/Mathilda de Vermandois dame de Crépy1,2 b. 1080
ReferenceGAV24 EDV24
Last Edited8 Aug 2009
     Agnes de Beaugency was born circa 1108.1,2 She married Sir Enguerrand II de Coucy sn de Coucy, Marle and le Fere, son of Sir Thomas I de Coucy Sire de Coucy et Marle, Comte d'Amiens and Melesinde de Crecy, in 1132.4,5,1,2
Agnes de Beaugency died before 1192; WFT Est.2
     Agnes de Beaugency Leo van de Pas cites: The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 175.1 GAV-24 EDV-24.

Agnes de Beaugency (an unknown value.)6

Citations

  1. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes de Beaugency: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028228&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Leo's Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaugency.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raoul I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00029102&tree=LEO
  4. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Coucy 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/coucy1.html
  5. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Enguerrand II de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028227&tree=LEO
  6. [S584] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family # 0167 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).
  7. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raoul de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028229&tree=LEO

Sir Enguerrand II de Coucy sn de Coucy, Marle and le Fere1,2,3

M, #4311, b. circa 1110, d. 1148
FatherSir Thomas I de Coucy Sire de Coucy et Marle, Comte d'Amiens2,1,3 b. c 1073, d. bt 1129 - 1130
MotherMelesinde de Crecy4,1,2,3 b. c 1080, d. a 1147
ReferenceGAV24 EDV24
Last Edited8 Aug 2009
     Sir Enguerrand II de Coucy sn de Coucy, Marle and le Fere was born circa 1110.2 He married Agnes de Beaugency, daughter of Raoul I de Beaugency Seigneur de Beaugency and Mahaut/Mathilda de Vermandois dame de Crépy, in 1132.1,2,5,3
Sir Enguerrand II de Coucy sn de Coucy, Marle and le Fere died in 1148 at Palestine; Genealogy.EU (Coucy 1 page) says d. 1147.2,1,3
     He was He joined the second Crusade and died in the East, probably in or near Damascus, and was buried at Nazareth.2 GAV-24 EDV-24.

Sir Enguerrand II de Coucy sn de Coucy, Marle and le Fere Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 82
2. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 175.2

Sir Enguerrand II de Coucy sn de Coucy, Marle and le Fere Sire de Coucy, Marle, and le Fere; Crusader; d 1148 on the 2nd Crusade, somewhere in the East, very likely in or near Damascus; bur at Nazareth (modern Israel).6

Family

Agnes de Beaugency b. c 1108, d. b 1192
Children

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Coucy 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/coucy1.html
  2. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Enguerrand II de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028227&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Leo's Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaugency.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mélesinde de Crécy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028236&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes de Beaugency: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028228&tree=LEO
  6. [S584] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family # 0167 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).
  7. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raoul de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028229&tree=LEO

Sir Thomas I de Coucy Sire de Coucy et Marle, Comte d'Amiens1,2

M, #4312, b. circa 1073, d. between 1129 and 1130
FatherEnguerrand I de Coucy sn de Boves et de Coucy, Cte d'Amiens3,1,2 b. 1030, d. 1116
MotherAda de Marle Vicomtesse de Coucy2,1,4 b. c 1054
ReferenceGAV24 EDV24
Last Edited20 Aug 2019
     Sir Thomas I de Coucy Sire de Coucy et Marle, Comte d'Amiens was born circa 1073 at Coucy, Ardennes, France.1,2 He married Ida (?) de Hainault, daughter of Baudouin II (?) comte de Hainaut, Valenciennes, Ostrevant et Douai and Ida (?) de Louvain, in 1100; Genealogy.EU (Coucy 1 page) says m. bef 1095; (Flanders 1 page) says m. ca 1100.1,2,5 Sir Thomas I de Coucy Sire de Coucy et Marle, Comte d'Amiens married Ermengarde de Montaigu, daughter of Guillaume de Montaigu, circa 1101; his 2nd wife, her 1st husband.6,1 Sir Thomas I de Coucy Sire de Coucy et Marle, Comte d'Amiens married Melesinde de Crecy, daughter of Guy de Crecy Comte de Rochefort-en-Yvelines; his 3rd wife.1,2,7
Sir Thomas I de Coucy Sire de Coucy et Marle, Comte d'Amiens died between 1129 and 1130.2,1
     GAV-24 EDV-24.

Sir Thomas I de Coucy Sire de Coucy et Marle, Comte d'Amiens Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 80
2. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales Edinburgh, 1977., Gerald Paget, Reference: 174
3. Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: II 9
4. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 175.2
Sir Thomas I de Coucy Sire de Coucy et Marle, Comte d'Amiens was a witness to the (an unknown value) with Sir Thomas I de Coucy Sire de Coucy et Marle, Comte d'Amiens.

Sir Thomas I de Coucy Sire de Coucy et Marle, Comte d'Amiens Thomas, Sire de Coucy and Marle; Count of Amiens; Crusader; went on the 1st Crusade.8

Family 1

Ida (?) de Hainault b. c 1085, d. a 1101
Children

Family 2

Ermengarde de Montaigu d. a 1112

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Coucy 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/coucy1.html
  2. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas de Marle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028235&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Leo's Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Enguerrand I de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028252&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ada de Marle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028253&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ida de Hainault: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028239&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermengarde de Montaigu: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139723&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mélesinde de Crécy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028236&tree=LEO
  8. [S584] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family # 0167 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).
  9. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Basilie (Béatrix) de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028246&tree=LEO
  10. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ide de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028245&tree=LEO
  11. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028241&tree=LEO
  12. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Enguerrand II de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028227&tree=LEO
  13. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaugency.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Melesinde de Crecy1

F, #4313, b. circa 1080, d. after 1147
FatherGuy de Crecy Comte de Rochefort-en-Yvelines2,3,4
ReferenceGAV25 EDV24
Last Edited16 May 2009
     Melesinde de Crecy was born circa 1080 at Crecy, France.1 She married Sir Thomas I de Coucy Sire de Coucy et Marle, Comte d'Amiens, son of Enguerrand I de Coucy sn de Boves et de Coucy, Cte d'Amiens and Ada de Marle Vicomtesse de Coucy; his 3rd wife.2,5,3
Melesinde de Crecy died after 1147.3,2
     GAV-25 EDV-24.

Melesinde de Crecy Leo van de Pas cites: 1. The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales Edinburgh, 1977., Gerald Paget, Reference: 174
2. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 175
3. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 80.3

Melesinde de Crecy (an unknown value.)6

Citations

  1. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I30507
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Coucy 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/coucy1.html
  3. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mélesinde de Crécy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028236&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Leo's Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy de Crécy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028237&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas de Marle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028235&tree=LEO
  6. [S584] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family # 0167 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).
  7. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028241&tree=LEO
  8. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Enguerrand II de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028227&tree=LEO
  9. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaugency.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Enguerrand I de Coucy sn de Boves et de Coucy, Cte d'Amiens1

M, #4314, b. 1030, d. 1116
FatherDreux (Drago) de Coucy Seigneur de Boves2,3 d. c 1069
MotherAdele (?) of Coucy3
ReferenceGAV26 EDV25
Last Edited9 Aug 2009
     Enguerrand I de Coucy sn de Boves et de Coucy, Cte d'Amiens was born in 1030.3 He married Ada de Marle Vicomtesse de Coucy, daughter of Lietaud de Roucy Seigneur of Marle and Mathilde/Mahaut (?); his 1st wife; her 2nd husband.3,1,4 Enguerrand I de Coucy sn de Boves et de Coucy, Cte d'Amiens married Sibylle De Porcean; his 2nd wife.1,3
Enguerrand I de Coucy sn de Boves et de Coucy, Cte d'Amiens died in 1116.3
     GAV-26 EDV-25.
Enguerrand I de Coucy sn de Boves et de Coucy, Cte d'Amiens was a witness to the (an unknown value) with Enguerrand I de Coucy sn de Boves et de Coucy, Cte d'Amiens. Enguerrand I de Coucy sn de Boves et de Coucy, Cte d'Amiens was also known as Engleram I de Coucy sn de Boves et de Coucy, Cte d'Amiens.3,1

Enguerrand I de Coucy sn de Boves et de Coucy, Cte d'Amiens Seigneur de Boves and de Coucy; Count of Amiens.5

Citations

  1. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Enguerrand I de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028252&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Leo's Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dreux de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028256&tree=LEO
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Coucy 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/coucy1.html
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaumont-dur-Oise.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  5. [S584] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family # 0167 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).
  6. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas de Marle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028235&tree=LEO

Ada de Marle Vicomtesse de Coucy1,2

F, #4315, b. circa 1054
FatherLietaud de Roucy Seigneur of Marle2 d. 1000
MotherMathilde/Mahaut (?)3
ReferenceGAV26 EDV25
Last Edited9 Aug 2009
     Ada de Marle Vicomtesse de Coucy was born circa 1054 at Roucy, Aisne, France.4 She married Aubri de Beaumont Vicomte de Coucy, son of Yves IV de Beaumont comte de Beaumont, seigneur de Conflans and Emma (?), before 1059.5,6 Ada de Marle Vicomtesse de Coucy and Aubri de Beaumont Vicomte de Coucy were divorced in 1059.6 Ada de Marle Vicomtesse de Coucy married Enguerrand I de Coucy sn de Boves et de Coucy, Cte d'Amiens, son of Dreux (Drago) de Coucy Seigneur de Boves and Adele (?) of Coucy; his 1st wife; her 2nd husband.1,7,6
     Ada de Marle Vicomtesse de Coucy Heiress of Marle.8 GAV-26 EDV-25. Ada de Marle Vicomtesse de Coucy was also known as Adele (Ada) De Roucy. Ada de Marle Vicomtesse de Coucy was also known as Adela Vcts de Coucy.5

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Coucy 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/coucy1.html
  2. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ada de Marle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028253&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Leo's Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde (Mahaut): http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00313167&tree=LEO
  4. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I31918
  5. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Beaumont 1 page (The family of Beaumont-sur-Oise): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/beaumont/beaumont1.html
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Beaumont-dur-Oise.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  7. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Enguerrand I de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028252&tree=LEO
  8. [S584] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family # 0167 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).
  9. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas de Marle: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028235&tree=LEO

Sibylle De Porcean1,2

F, #4316
Last Edited20 May 2004
     Sibylle De Porcean married Enguerrand I de Coucy sn de Boves et de Coucy, Cte d'Amiens, son of Dreux (Drago) de Coucy Seigneur de Boves and Adele (?) of Coucy; his 2nd wife.3,1
     Sibylle De Porcean Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 80.4

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Coucy 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/coucy1.html
  2. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sibylle de Porcean: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028255&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Leo's Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Enguerrand I de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028252&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sibylle de Porcean: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028255&tree=LEO&PHPSESSID=d19acb2bd0fed3fa5d9959d9da740f3b

Clarembaud (?) Sire de Rozoy1

M, #4317, d. before 1158
ReferenceGAV27
Last Edited1 Dec 2004
     Clarembaud (?) Sire de Rozoy married Elizabeth (?) de Namur, daughter of Godfrey/Godefroid (?) Comte de Namur et de Chateau-Porcien and Sibylle (?) de Porcean, on 1 February 1131; her 2nd husband.1,2
Clarembaud (?) Sire de Rozoy died before 1158.1
     Clarembaud (?) Sire de Rozoy Leo van de Pas cites: 1. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 199
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: XIII 148.1 GAV-27.

Family

Elizabeth (?) de Namur b. a 1087, d. a 1141
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Clarembaud: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027110&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Leo's Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 2 page (The Luxemburg Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg2.html
  3. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Renaud de Rozoy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027112&tree=LEO

Dreux (Drago) de Coucy Seigneur de Boves1,2

M, #4318, d. circa 1069
FatherAlberic de Coucy3
MotherAdele (?) de Mantes4,1
ReferenceGAV27 EDV26
Last Edited22 Nov 2003
     Dreux (Drago) de Coucy Seigneur de Boves married Adele (?) of Coucy, daughter of Alberic (?) Seigneur de Coucy and Adela d'Amiens.2
Dreux (Drago) de Coucy Seigneur de Boves died circa 1069.1,2
     GAV-27 EDV-26.

Dreux (Drago) de Coucy Seigneur de Boves Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 80
2. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 175.1

Dreux (Drago) de Coucy Seigneur de Boves Seigneur de Boves and de Coucy.5

Citations

  1. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dreux de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028256&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Leo's Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Coucy 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/coucy1.html
  3. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alberic de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00030550&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adèle de Mantes: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00030551&tree=LEO
  5. [S584] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family # 0167 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).

Hugues III (?) Comte de Maine1,2

M, #4319, d. between 3 September 1014 and 25 October 1015
FatherHugues II (?) Comte de Maine3,4,2 d. b 991
ReferenceGAV27
Last Edited27 Jan 2008
     Hugues III (?) Comte de Maine died between 3 September 1014 and 25 October 1015.1,2
     GAV-27.

Hugues III (?) Comte de Maine per Henry Project: [quote] Hugues III of Maine Count of Maine, 976×992-1014×5.

Hugues first appears witnessing a charter of Saint-Julien de Tours in March 967 along with his father count Hughes II and brother Fulcoin/Foulques ["Signum Hugonis, Cinomannorum comitis. Signum Hugonis, filii ejus. Signum Fulcuini, filii e[jus similit]er." Grandmaison (1885-6), 229 (#XXI)]. The chronology of the early part of his reign is vague, but he had succeeded by December 992, when his brother Fulcoin appears as "Fulcho, frater Hugoni comitis Cinnomanensis" in a Poitevan charter [Cart. S.-Maixent, 1: 78 (#LXI)]. Although he appears in a number of charters, most of them cannot be accurately dated [see Latouche (1910), 139-142]. Hugues III was still living in 1014, when he gave the land of Voivres to the monks of Mont-Saint-Michel [Cart. S.-Victeur, 6 (#4)]. His son Herbert I "Wake-Dog" appears as count in 1016 (see below).

Date of Birth: Unknown.
Place of Birth: Unknown.

Date of Death: 3 September or 25 October, 1014×5.
As already indicated above, Hugues was still alive in 1014. His son Herbert I "Wake-Dog" was already present as count of Maine at the Battle of Pontlevoy on 6 July 1016. To rule 1016 out as the date of death, Latouche pointed out that the cartulary of Évron (not seen by me) had death dates for three different counts Hugues of Maine, 26 March, 3 September, and 25 October. The date 26 March belongs to Hugues IV, and it is very likely that one of the others is the date of death of Hugues III, ruling out 1016, since Herbert was already count on 6 July of that year [Latouche (1910), 22, n. 1].
Place of Death: Unknown.

Father: Hugues II, d. 976×992, count of Maine.

Mother: Unknown.

Spouse(s): Unknown.

Child:

MALE Herbert I "Éveille-Chien", d. 1032×5, count of Maine.
The relationship between Hugues III and Herbert I is stated by an early interpolation to Adémar de Chabannes ["... Arbertum Cenomannis comitem [filium Ugonis]" Adémar Chab., iii, 64, (p. 189); the addition "filium Ugonis" appears in a twelfth century manuscript] and Orderic Vitalis ["Herbertus Cenomannorum comes ... Hugonis patris sui ..." OV iv (vol. 2, pp. 304-5)]. It is further confirmed by the statement of the Actus that Herbert Bacon (a brother of Hugues III, as confirmed by charters - see the page of Hugues II) was an avunculus of Herbert I ["... Herbertus, comes, cognomine Baco, avunculus Herberti, qui fuit temporibus Avesgaudi episcopi..." Act. Pont.Cenom., 363].
Bibliography

Act. Pont. Cenom. = Busson & Ledru, eds., Actus Pontificum Cenomannis in urbe Degentium (Archives Historiques de Maine 2, Le Mans, 1902).

Adémar Chab. = Jules Chavanon, ed., Adémar de Chabannes - Chronique (Paris, 1897).

Cart. S.-Maixent = Alfred Richard, Chartes et documents pour servir à l'histoire de l'abbaye de Saint-Maixent, 2 vols. (Archives Historiques du Poitou 16, 1886; 18, 1887).

Cart. S.-Victeur = Paul de Farcy, ed., Cartulaire de Saint-Victeur au Mans (Paris, 1895).

Grandmaison (1885-6) = Charles de Grandmaison, ed., "Fragments de chartes du xe siècle provenant de Saint-Julien de Tours", Bibliothèque de l'École des Chartes 46 (1885): 373-429; 47 (1886): 226-273.

Latouche (1910) = Robert Latouche, Histoire de comté du Maine (Paris, 1910).

MGH SS = Monumenta Germaniae Historica, Scriptores series.

OV = Marjorie Chibnall, ed. & trans., The Ecclesiastical History of Orderic Vitalis, 6 vols. (Oxford, 1969-80).

Compiled by Stewart Baldwin

Uploaded 10 January 2008.
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Hugues III (?) Comte de Maine Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 692.1

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177503&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Leo's Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1702] The Henry Project: The ancestors of king Henry II of England, An experiment in cooperative medieval genealogy on the internet, online http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/henry.htm, Hugues III: http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/hugh0003.htm. Hereinafter cited as The Henry Project.
  3. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177501&tree=LEO
  4. [S1702] The Henry Project, online http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/henry.htm, Hugues II: http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/hugh0002.htm
  5. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Herbert I Eveille-Chien: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177505&tree=LEO

Raoul I de Coucy sn de Coucy, Marle and le Fere1,2

M, #4320, b. 1134, d. November 1191
FatherSir Enguerrand II de Coucy sn de Coucy, Marle and le Fere1,3,2 b. c 1110, d. 1148
MotherAgnes de Beaugency1,4,2 b. c 1108, d. b 1192
ReferenceGAV23 EDV23
Last Edited24 Nov 2003
     Raoul I de Coucy sn de Coucy, Marle and le Fere was born in 1134; Genealogy.EU (Coucy 1 page) saysb. ca 1135.1,2 He married Agnes "la Boiteuse" (?) de Hainault, daughter of Baudouin IV "de Bouwer" (?) Count of Hainault and Alice (Alix, Ermensinde) (?) de Namur, before 1164; his 1st wife; Leo van de Pas says m. 1168.1,5,2,6 Raoul I de Coucy sn de Coucy, Marle and le Fere married Adelaide/Alice/Alix de Dreux, daughter of Robert I "le Grand" de Dreux Cmte de Dreux, du Perche et de Braine-sur-Vesle and Agnes de Baudément dame de Baudement, de Braine-sur-Vesle, de Fere-en-Tardenois, de Nesle-en-Tardenois, de Quincy, de Longueville et de Pontarcy, in 1174; his 2nd wife; Genealogy.EU (Capet 5 page) say m. after 1173.7,1,2,8
Raoul I de Coucy sn de Coucy, Marle and le Fere died in November 1191 at Acre, Palestine; in the 3rd Crusade.2,7,1
Raoul I de Coucy sn de Coucy, Marle and le Fere was buried circa 1191 at Foisny, France (now).1,2
     Raoul I de Coucy sn de Coucy, Marle and le Fere Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 80.2 GAV-23 EDV-23 GKJ-24. He was He joined the third Crusade and fell at the siege of Acre in 1191.2

Raoul I de Coucy sn de Coucy, Marle and le Fere Sire de Coucy and Marle; adherent of Philip Augustus; Crusader; b. ca 1135; fell Nov 1191 at Acre, on the 3rd Crusade; bur at Foisny.9

Family 1

Agnes "la Boiteuse" (?) de Hainault b. c 1142, d. bt 1168 - 1173
Children

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Coucy 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/coucy1.html
  2. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Raoul de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028229&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Leo's Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Enguerrand II de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028227&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes de Beaugency: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028228&tree=LEO
  5. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders2.html
  6. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes de Hainault: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028251&tree=LEO
  7. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html#P1
  8. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alix de Dreux: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028230&tree=LEO
  9. [S584] Inc. Brøderbund Software, GEDCOM file imported on 24 Oct 1999 from World Family Tree Vol. 11, Ed. 1, Family # 0167 (n.p.: Release date: July 1, 1997, unknown publish date).
  10. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ade de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00112441&tree=LEO
  11. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabeau de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139792&tree=LEO
  12. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Yolande de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013798&tree=LEO
  13. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Enguerrand III de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164622&tree=LEO
  14. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00218954&tree=LEO
  15. [S1490] Leo's Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thomas II de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028231&tree=LEO