Thimo I (?) Graf von Wettin und von Kostritz1
M, #20011
Father | Dietrich II von Wettin Graf im Hassegau u. Siusli, Graf zu Brehna and in Eilenburg, Markgraf der Nieder-Lausitz1,2,3 b. c 990, d. 19 Nov 1034 |
Mother | Matilda (?) von Meissen1,4,3 |
Reference | EDV29 |
Last Edited | 7 Dec 2020 |
EDV-29.
; Leo van de Pas cites: Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels Fürstliche Häuser , Reference: 1956 142.1 Thimo I (?) Graf von Wettin und von Kostritz was living in 1034.1
; Leo van de Pas cites: Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels Fürstliche Häuser , Reference: 1956 142.1 Thimo I (?) Graf von Wettin und von Kostritz was living in 1034.1
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thimo I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00022878&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dietrich II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00022879&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#Dietrichdied1034. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde von Meissen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00022880&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thimo II 'der Tapfere': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00022876&tree=LEO
Dietrich II von Wettin Graf im Hassegau u. Siusli, Graf zu Brehna and in Eilenburg, Markgraf der Nieder-Lausitz1,2
M, #20012, b. circa 990, d. 19 November 1034
Father | Dedo/Dedi I von Wettin Graf im Hassegau2,3,4,5,6 b. c 954, d. 13 Nov 1009 |
Mother | Thietburga von Haldensleben2,4,7,5,6 |
Reference | GAV29 EDV30 |
Last Edited | 4 Jul 2020 |
Dietrich II von Wettin Graf im Hassegau u. Siusli, Graf zu Brehna and in Eilenburg, Markgraf der Nieder-Lausitz was born circa 990.5 He married Matilda (?) von Meissen, daughter of Ekkehard I (?) Margrave of Meissen and Thuringia and Schwanhild|Suanehild (?) von Saxony, circa 1016.2,5,6,8
Dietrich II von Wettin Graf im Hassegau u. Siusli, Graf zu Brehna and in Eilenburg, Markgraf der Nieder-Lausitz died on 19 November 1034; murdered.2,5,6
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Genealogics:
“Dietrich was born about 990, the son of Dedi I, Graf im Hassegau, and Thietberga von Haldensleben. He was Graf von Wettin, from 1015 Graf im Schwabengau, from 1017 Graf von Eilenburg und Brehna, Graf im Hassegau und im Gau Siusili, and from 1032 the first Wettin margrave of the mark of Lusatia (Lausitz). About 1016 he married Mathilde von Meissen, daughter of Ekkehard I, Markgraf von Meissen, and Schwanhild/Suanehild von Sachsen. They had six sons and a daughter Hidda. Hidda married Spytihnev II, duke of Bohemia; in 1084 their son Swatobor Friedrich would become patriarch of Aquileia.
“At Christmas 1009 at Pöhlde King Heinrich II (the future emperor) enfeoffed Dietrich with all his father's fiefs, including the northern Hassegau and his father's share in the district of Zörbig. In 1017, after the death of his uncle Friedrich I von Eilenburg, the emperor enfeoffed him with his uncle's county and rights in the district of Siusili.
“
Together with his brother-in-law Hermann, Markgraf von Meissen, and the emperor's chamberlain Friedrich, in 1018 Dietrich was a witness to the Peace Treaty of Bautzen, which ended the war between Heinrich II and Boleslaw I Chrobry, king of Poland, that had lasted since 1002. When war was renewed by Boleslaw's son Mieszko II Lambert, Dietrich organised the defence against Poland. According to the _Annalista Saxo_ of 1030 it was only Dietrich who seriously resisted Mieszko and eventually forced him to pull back. From 1032 he was margrave of Lusatia.
“On 19 November 1034 Dietrich was killed by the followers of his brother-in-law Ekkehard II, who succeeded him as margrave of Lusatia.”.5
; This is the same person as:
”Theodoric II, Margrave of Lower Lusatia” at Wikipedia, as
”Thierry Ier de Lusace” at Wikipédia (Fr.),
and as ”Dietrich I. (Lausitz)” at Wikipedia (De.)9,10,11 GAV-29 EDV-30.
; Per Genealogy.EU (Wettin): “B1. Gf Dietrich in Eilenburg, Gf im Hassegau u.Siusli, +murdered 19.11.1034; m.Matilda, dau.of Ekkehard I, Markgraf von Meissen”.2
; Per Med Lands:
"DIETRICH, son of DEDO I Graf von Merseburg & his wife Thietburga [von Haldensleben] (-murdered 19 Nov 1034). "Theoderico, Dedonis occisi filio" is named in the Annalista Saxo, when recording that the king installed him in his father's Grafschaft[264]. Thietmar records the death of "Count Friedrich…in his burg Eilenburg", stating that he transferred Eilenburg to "his brother's son Dietrich" before he died[265]. Graf in Eilenburg 1017. Graf im Hassegau und Siusli 1021.
m MATHILDE von Meissen, daughter of EKKEHARD I Markgraf von Meissen & his wife Schwanehild [Billung]. The Chronicon Montis Serreni names "Machtildem" as daughter of "Ekkehardo marchioni" & his wife and names her husband "Tidericus comes"[266]."
Med Lands cites:
Reference: Per Med Lands:
"MATHILDE . The Chronicon Montis Serreni names "Machtildem" as daughter of "Ekkehardo marchioni" & his wife and names her husband "Tidericus comes"[153].
"m DIETRICH Graf in Eilenburg, son of DEDO I Graf von Merseburg [Wettin] & his wife Thietburga [von Haldensleben] (-murdered 19 Nov 1034). Graf im Hassegau und Siusli in 1021."
Med Lands cites:
Dietrich II von Wettin Graf im Hassegau u. Siusli, Graf zu Brehna and in Eilenburg, Markgraf der Nieder-Lausitz died on 19 November 1034; murdered.2,5,6
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: I 42.
2. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels Fürstliche Häuser , Reference: 1956 142.5
2. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels Fürstliche Häuser , Reference: 1956 142.5
; Per Genealogics:
“Dietrich was born about 990, the son of Dedi I, Graf im Hassegau, and Thietberga von Haldensleben. He was Graf von Wettin, from 1015 Graf im Schwabengau, from 1017 Graf von Eilenburg und Brehna, Graf im Hassegau und im Gau Siusili, and from 1032 the first Wettin margrave of the mark of Lusatia (Lausitz). About 1016 he married Mathilde von Meissen, daughter of Ekkehard I, Markgraf von Meissen, and Schwanhild/Suanehild von Sachsen. They had six sons and a daughter Hidda. Hidda married Spytihnev II, duke of Bohemia; in 1084 their son Swatobor Friedrich would become patriarch of Aquileia.
“At Christmas 1009 at Pöhlde King Heinrich II (the future emperor) enfeoffed Dietrich with all his father's fiefs, including the northern Hassegau and his father's share in the district of Zörbig. In 1017, after the death of his uncle Friedrich I von Eilenburg, the emperor enfeoffed him with his uncle's county and rights in the district of Siusili.
“
Together with his brother-in-law Hermann, Markgraf von Meissen, and the emperor's chamberlain Friedrich, in 1018 Dietrich was a witness to the Peace Treaty of Bautzen, which ended the war between Heinrich II and Boleslaw I Chrobry, king of Poland, that had lasted since 1002. When war was renewed by Boleslaw's son Mieszko II Lambert, Dietrich organised the defence against Poland. According to the _Annalista Saxo_ of 1030 it was only Dietrich who seriously resisted Mieszko and eventually forced him to pull back. From 1032 he was margrave of Lusatia.
“On 19 November 1034 Dietrich was killed by the followers of his brother-in-law Ekkehard II, who succeeded him as margrave of Lusatia.”.5
; This is the same person as:
”Theodoric II, Margrave of Lower Lusatia” at Wikipedia, as
”Thierry Ier de Lusace” at Wikipédia (Fr.),
and as ”Dietrich I. (Lausitz)” at Wikipedia (De.)9,10,11 GAV-29 EDV-30.
; Per Genealogy.EU (Wettin): “B1. Gf Dietrich in Eilenburg, Gf im Hassegau u.Siusli, +murdered 19.11.1034; m.Matilda, dau.of Ekkehard I, Markgraf von Meissen”.2
; Per Med Lands:
"DIETRICH, son of DEDO I Graf von Merseburg & his wife Thietburga [von Haldensleben] (-murdered 19 Nov 1034). "Theoderico, Dedonis occisi filio" is named in the Annalista Saxo, when recording that the king installed him in his father's Grafschaft[264]. Thietmar records the death of "Count Friedrich…in his burg Eilenburg", stating that he transferred Eilenburg to "his brother's son Dietrich" before he died[265]. Graf in Eilenburg 1017. Graf im Hassegau und Siusli 1021.
m MATHILDE von Meissen, daughter of EKKEHARD I Markgraf von Meissen & his wife Schwanehild [Billung]. The Chronicon Montis Serreni names "Machtildem" as daughter of "Ekkehardo marchioni" & his wife and names her husband "Tidericus comes"[266]."
Med Lands cites:
[264] Annalista Saxo 1010.
[265] Thietmar 7.50, pp. 342-3.
[266] Chronicon Montis Serreni 1171, MGH SS XXIII, p. 155.6
[265] Thietmar 7.50, pp. 342-3.
[266] Chronicon Montis Serreni 1171, MGH SS XXIII, p. 155.6
Reference: Per Med Lands:
"MATHILDE . The Chronicon Montis Serreni names "Machtildem" as daughter of "Ekkehardo marchioni" & his wife and names her husband "Tidericus comes"[153].
"m DIETRICH Graf in Eilenburg, son of DEDO I Graf von Merseburg [Wettin] & his wife Thietburga [von Haldensleben] (-murdered 19 Nov 1034). Graf im Hassegau und Siusli in 1021."
Med Lands cites:
[153] Chronicon Montis Serreni 1171, MGH SS XXIII, p. 155.12
Family | Matilda (?) von Meissen |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dietrich II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00022879&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Wettin 1 page - The House of Wettin: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wettin/wettin1.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dedi I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00022885&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#DedoIdied1009. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dietrich II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00022879&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#Dietrichdied1034
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thietberga von Haldensleben: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00022886&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde von Meissen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00022880&tree=LEO
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodoric_II,_Margrave_of_Lower_Lusatia. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Thierry Ier de Lusace: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thierry_Ier_de_Lusace. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
- [S4759] Wikipedia - Die freie Enzyklopädie, online https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hauptseite, Dietrich I. (Lausitz): https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietrich_I._(Lausitz). Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (DE).
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#MathildeMDietrichEilenburgWettin
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thimo I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00022878&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Wettin 1 page (The House of Wettin): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wettin/wettin1.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dedi II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120932&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Ducs de Brabant grafen im Maasgau, comtes de Louvain (Leuven), seigneurs de Perwez et Lovain(e) (Angleterre), p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Brabant.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#DedoIIdied1075
Matilda (?) von Meissen1
F, #20013
Father | Ekkehard I (?) Margrave of Meissen and Thuringia1,2,3,4,5 b. c 956, d. 30 Apr 1002 |
Mother | Schwanhild|Suanehild (?) von Saxony6,4,5 b. c 941, d. 24 Nov 1014 |
Reference | GAV29 EDV30 |
Last Edited | 4 Jul 2020 |
Matilda (?) von Meissen married Dietrich II von Wettin Graf im Hassegau u. Siusli, Graf zu Brehna and in Eilenburg, Markgraf der Nieder-Lausitz, son of Dedo/Dedi I von Wettin Graf im Hassegau and Thietburga von Haldensleben, circa 1016.1,7,8,4
; Per Genealogy.EU (Wettin): “B1. Gf Dietrich in Eilenburg, Gf im Hassegau u.Siusli, +murdered 19.11.1034; m.Matilda, dau.of Ekkehard I, Markgraf von Meissen”.1
; Per Med Lands:
"DIETRICH, son of DEDO I Graf von Merseburg & his wife Thietburga [von Haldensleben] (-murdered 19 Nov 1034). "Theoderico, Dedonis occisi filio" is named in the Annalista Saxo, when recording that the king installed him in his father's Grafschaft[264]. Thietmar records the death of "Count Friedrich…in his burg Eilenburg", stating that he transferred Eilenburg to "his brother's son Dietrich" before he died[265]. Graf in Eilenburg 1017. Graf im Hassegau und Siusli 1021.
m MATHILDE von Meissen, daughter of EKKEHARD I Markgraf von Meissen & his wife Schwanehild [Billung]. The Chronicon Montis Serreni names "Machtildem" as daughter of "Ekkehardo marchioni" & his wife and names her husband "Tidericus comes"[266]."
Med Lands cites:
Reference: Genealogics cites:
Reference: Per Med Lands:
"MATHILDE . The Chronicon Montis Serreni names "Machtildem" as daughter of "Ekkehardo marchioni" & his wife and names her husband "Tidericus comes"[153].
"m DIETRICH Graf in Eilenburg, son of DEDO I Graf von Merseburg [Wettin] & his wife Thietburga [von Haldensleben] (-murdered 19 Nov 1034). Graf im Hassegau und Siusli in 1021."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (Wettin): “B1. Gf Dietrich in Eilenburg, Gf im Hassegau u.Siusli, +murdered 19.11.1034; m.Matilda, dau.of Ekkehard I, Markgraf von Meissen”.1
; Per Med Lands:
"DIETRICH, son of DEDO I Graf von Merseburg & his wife Thietburga [von Haldensleben] (-murdered 19 Nov 1034). "Theoderico, Dedonis occisi filio" is named in the Annalista Saxo, when recording that the king installed him in his father's Grafschaft[264]. Thietmar records the death of "Count Friedrich…in his burg Eilenburg", stating that he transferred Eilenburg to "his brother's son Dietrich" before he died[265]. Graf in Eilenburg 1017. Graf im Hassegau und Siusli 1021.
m MATHILDE von Meissen, daughter of EKKEHARD I Markgraf von Meissen & his wife Schwanehild [Billung]. The Chronicon Montis Serreni names "Machtildem" as daughter of "Ekkehardo marchioni" & his wife and names her husband "Tidericus comes"[266]."
Med Lands cites:
[264] Annalista Saxo 1010.
[265] Thietmar 7.50, pp. 342-3.
[266] Chronicon Montis Serreni 1171, MGH SS XXIII, p. 155.8
[265] Thietmar 7.50, pp. 342-3.
[266] Chronicon Montis Serreni 1171, MGH SS XXIII, p. 155.8
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: I 42.
2. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels Fürstliche Häuser , Reference: 1956 142.4
GAV-29 EDV-30. 2. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels Fürstliche Häuser , Reference: 1956 142.4
Reference: Per Med Lands:
"MATHILDE . The Chronicon Montis Serreni names "Machtildem" as daughter of "Ekkehardo marchioni" & his wife and names her husband "Tidericus comes"[153].
"m DIETRICH Graf in Eilenburg, son of DEDO I Graf von Merseburg [Wettin] & his wife Thietburga [von Haldensleben] (-murdered 19 Nov 1034). Graf im Hassegau und Siusli in 1021."
Med Lands cites:
[153] Chronicon Montis Serreni 1171, MGH SS XXIII, p. 155.5
Family | Dietrich II von Wettin Graf im Hassegau u. Siusli, Graf zu Brehna and in Eilenburg, Markgraf der Nieder-Lausitz b. c 990, d. 19 Nov 1034 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Wettin 1 page - The House of Wettin: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wettin/wettin1.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ekkehard I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00080036&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#Odadied1025. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde von Meissen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00022880&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#MathildeMDietrichEilenburgWettin
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Schwanhild|Suanehild of Saxony: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00422386&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dietrich II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00022879&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#Dietrichdied1034
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thimo I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00022878&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Wettin 1 page (The House of Wettin): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wettin/wettin1.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dedi II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120932&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Ducs de Brabant grafen im Maasgau, comtes de Louvain (Leuven), seigneurs de Perwez et Lovain(e) (Angleterre), p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Brabant.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#DedoIIdied1075
Ekkehard I (?) Margrave of Meissen and Thuringia1,2
M, #20014, b. circa 956, d. 30 April 1002
Father | Gunther (?) Markgraf von Meissen3,4 d. 15 Jul 982 |
Reference | GAV30 EDV31 |
Last Edited | 4 Jul 2020 |
Ekkehard I (?) Margrave of Meissen and Thuringia was born circa 956. He married Schwanhild|Suanehild (?) von Saxony, daughter of Hermann Billung (?) Mkgf of Lower Elbe, Herzog von Sachsen and Oda (?), after 979.1,5
Ekkehard I (?) Margrave of Meissen and Thuringia died on 30 April 1002; murdered.1
Reference: Genealogics cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: I 42.1 GAV-30 EDV-31.
; Per Med Lands: "EKKEHARD (-murdered Pöhlde 30 Apr 1002, bur Kloster Jena, transferred 1028 to Naumburg Georgskirche). The Annalista Saxo records that "Ekkihardus Guntharii filius" succeeded Ricdag in 985 as EKKEHARD I Markgraf [von Meissen][130]. "Otto…rex" donated property "Vvalbisci in comitatu Karoli comitis" to Quedlinburg by charter dated 6 Jan 992, which names as present "Bernhardi ducis, Egberti comitis, Eggihardi marchionis, Herimanni palatini comitis, Huodonis marchionis, Deoderici palatini comitis eiusque fratris Sigeberti comitis, Herimanni comitis"[131]. Thietmar also names Ekkehard as son of Gunther, referring to him as "ex nobilissimis Thuringiæ australis natalibus huius genealogiæ ortum ducens"[132]. He was one of the candidates for the imperial throne in 1002 after the death of Emperor Otto III but was killed by Saxon rivals[133]. He was murdered by (among others) Heinrich [III] von Stade, his brother Udo, and Siegfried [II] von Northeim[134]. The necrology of Fulda records the death in 1002 of "Egihhart com occisus"[135]. The necrology of Lüneburg records the death "30 Apr" of "Ekgihardus marchio"[136]. m as her second husband, SCHWANEHILDE [Suanhild], widow of THIETMAR [III] Markgraf [der Ostmark], daughter of HERMANN Billung Duke in Saxony & his [first/second] wife --- ([945/50]-26 Nov 1014, bur Kloster Jena, transferred 1028 to Naumburg Georgskirche). The Annalista Saxo names "domna Suanehildis" as daughter of "Herimanni ducis de Liuniburh", names her brothers "Bennonis ducis et Bernhardus et Liudigeri comitis et Machtildis comitisse" and her two husbands[137]. Her birth date range is estimated on the basis of her sister being born in [942] and Schwanehilde herself giving birth to seven children by her second husband. Thietmar records the marriage of Ekkehard and "Swanhild widow of Count Thietmar and Duke Bernhard's sister"[138]. Thietmar records the death of Suanhild 26 Nov 1014[139]."
Med Lands cites:
Ekkehard I (?) Margrave of Meissen and Thuringia died on 30 April 1002; murdered.1
Reference: Genealogics cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: I 42.1 GAV-30 EDV-31.
; Per Med Lands: "EKKEHARD (-murdered Pöhlde 30 Apr 1002, bur Kloster Jena, transferred 1028 to Naumburg Georgskirche). The Annalista Saxo records that "Ekkihardus Guntharii filius" succeeded Ricdag in 985 as EKKEHARD I Markgraf [von Meissen][130]. "Otto…rex" donated property "Vvalbisci in comitatu Karoli comitis" to Quedlinburg by charter dated 6 Jan 992, which names as present "Bernhardi ducis, Egberti comitis, Eggihardi marchionis, Herimanni palatini comitis, Huodonis marchionis, Deoderici palatini comitis eiusque fratris Sigeberti comitis, Herimanni comitis"[131]. Thietmar also names Ekkehard as son of Gunther, referring to him as "ex nobilissimis Thuringiæ australis natalibus huius genealogiæ ortum ducens"[132]. He was one of the candidates for the imperial throne in 1002 after the death of Emperor Otto III but was killed by Saxon rivals[133]. He was murdered by (among others) Heinrich [III] von Stade, his brother Udo, and Siegfried [II] von Northeim[134]. The necrology of Fulda records the death in 1002 of "Egihhart com occisus"[135]. The necrology of Lüneburg records the death "30 Apr" of "Ekgihardus marchio"[136]. m as her second husband, SCHWANEHILDE [Suanhild], widow of THIETMAR [III] Markgraf [der Ostmark], daughter of HERMANN Billung Duke in Saxony & his [first/second] wife --- ([945/50]-26 Nov 1014, bur Kloster Jena, transferred 1028 to Naumburg Georgskirche). The Annalista Saxo names "domna Suanehildis" as daughter of "Herimanni ducis de Liuniburh", names her brothers "Bennonis ducis et Bernhardus et Liudigeri comitis et Machtildis comitisse" and her two husbands[137]. Her birth date range is estimated on the basis of her sister being born in [942] and Schwanehilde herself giving birth to seven children by her second husband. Thietmar records the marriage of Ekkehard and "Swanhild widow of Count Thietmar and Duke Bernhard's sister"[138]. Thietmar records the death of Suanhild 26 Nov 1014[139]."
Med Lands cites:
[130] Annalista Saxo 985.
[131] D O III 81, p. 489.
[132] Thietmar 4.39, p. 179.
[133] Reuter, T. (1991) Germany in the early middle ages c.800-1056 (Longman), pp. 186-7. .
[134] Annalista Saxo 1056 and 1057.
[135] Annales Necrologici Fuldenses, MGH SS XIII, p. 123.
[136] Althoff, G. (ed.) (1983) Die Totenbücher von Merseburg, Magdeburg und Lüneburg (Hannover), Lüneburg.
[137] Annalista Saxo 1002.
[138] Thietmar 4.39, p. 179.
[139] Thietmar 7.7, p. 312.4
[131] D O III 81, p. 489.
[132] Thietmar 4.39, p. 179.
[133] Reuter, T. (1991) Germany in the early middle ages c.800-1056 (Longman), pp. 186-7. .
[134] Annalista Saxo 1056 and 1057.
[135] Annales Necrologici Fuldenses, MGH SS XIII, p. 123.
[136] Althoff, G. (ed.) (1983) Die Totenbücher von Merseburg, Magdeburg und Lüneburg (Hannover), Lüneburg.
[137] Annalista Saxo 1002.
[138] Thietmar 4.39, p. 179.
[139] Thietmar 7.7, p. 312.4
Family | Schwanhild|Suanehild (?) von Saxony b. c 941, d. 24 Nov 1014 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ekkehard I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00080036&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Piast 1 page (the Piast family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/piast/piast1.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gunther: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00080035&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#Odadied1025. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Schwanhild|Suanehild of Saxony: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00422386&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Wettin 1 page - The House of Wettin: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wettin/wettin1.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde von Meissen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00022880&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#MathildeMDietrichEilenburgWettin
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Oda von Meissen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00422388&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hermann: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00422390&tree=LEO
Lady Elizabeth (?) of Lennox1,2
F, #20015, d. November 1429
Father | Duncan (?) 8th Earl of Lennox1 b. c 1345, d. 25 May 1425 |
Last Edited | 7 Aug 2005 |
Lady Elizabeth (?) of Lennox married Sir John Stuart laird of Darnley, 1st Seigneur d'Aubigny, son of Sir Alexander Stewart of Darnley and Jonetta Keith Heiress of Dalserf and Galston, circa 1406
; Papal dispensation, 23 Sept 1406.1,2
Lady Elizabeth (?) of Lennox died in November 1429; beheaded.1
; Papal dispensation, 23 Sept 1406.1,2
Lady Elizabeth (?) of Lennox died in November 1429; beheaded.1
Family | Sir John Stuart laird of Darnley, 1st Seigneur d'Aubigny d. 12 Feb 1429 |
Children |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart Earls of Moray Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1731] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email #3 17 Jan 2005 "Re: Ancestry of Beatrice, wife of Robert Hauley - Part Two"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 17 Jan 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email #3 17 Jan 2005."
Sir Alan Stuart laird of Darnley, 2nd Seigneur d'Aubigny1,2
M, #20016, d. 20 September 1438
Father | Sir John Stuart laird of Darnley, 1st Seigneur d'Aubigny1,2 d. 12 Feb 1429 |
Mother | Lady Elizabeth (?) of Lennox1,2 d. Nov 1429 |
Last Edited | 7 Aug 2006 |
Sir Alan Stuart laird of Darnley, 2nd Seigneur d'Aubigny married Catherine Seton, daughter of Sir William Seton of Seton and Janet Dunbar, circa 1429
; her 1st husband.1,2,3
Sir Alan Stuart laird of Darnley, 2nd Seigneur d'Aubigny died on 20 September 1438 at near, Linlithgow, Scotland; murdered near Linlithgow
(Scotland) on 20 Sept 1438.2
; Sir Alan, of Darnley, 2nd Seigneur d'Aubigny, Constable of the Scots troops in France, was at the siege and capture of Montereau 1437, but then resigned his French fiefs and returned to Scotland, where he was treacherously slain by Sir Thomas Boyd of Kilmarnock (see KILMARNOCK, B) in an old feud, 1439. He m Catherine (who m 2nd, Herbert, 1st Ld Maxwell), sis of George, 1st Ld Seton (see EGLINTO(U)N & WINTON, E), and dau of William Seton, yr of that Ilk (k at Verneuil, 1424), and by her had issue (with a yr s Alexander, ancestor of Frederick Stewart, cr. Ld Pittenweem in 1609 (see BURKE's Dormant & Extinct Peerages), an elder s.1 He was 2nd Seigneur d'Aubigny.1
; her 1st husband.1,2,3
Sir Alan Stuart laird of Darnley, 2nd Seigneur d'Aubigny died on 20 September 1438 at near, Linlithgow, Scotland; murdered near Linlithgow
(Scotland) on 20 Sept 1438.2
; Sir Alan, of Darnley, 2nd Seigneur d'Aubigny, Constable of the Scots troops in France, was at the siege and capture of Montereau 1437, but then resigned his French fiefs and returned to Scotland, where he was treacherously slain by Sir Thomas Boyd of Kilmarnock (see KILMARNOCK, B) in an old feud, 1439. He m Catherine (who m 2nd, Herbert, 1st Ld Maxwell), sis of George, 1st Ld Seton (see EGLINTO(U)N & WINTON, E), and dau of William Seton, yr of that Ilk (k at Verneuil, 1424), and by her had issue (with a yr s Alexander, ancestor of Frederick Stewart, cr. Ld Pittenweem in 1609 (see BURKE's Dormant & Extinct Peerages), an elder s.1 He was 2nd Seigneur d'Aubigny.1
Family | Catherine Seton b. c 1410, d. b 7 Feb 1478 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart Earls of Moray Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1731] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email #3 17 Jan 2005 "Re: Ancestry of Beatrice, wife of Robert Hauley - Part Two"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 17 Jan 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email #3 17 Jan 2005."
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Catherine Seton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00006264&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart Earls of Moray Family Page (see EGLINTO(U)N & WINTON, E).
Catherine Seton1
F, #20017, b. circa 1410, d. before 7 February 1478
Father | Sir William Seton of Seton1,2 d. 17 Aug 1424 |
Mother | Janet Dunbar2 |
Last Edited | 12 Jan 2014 |
Catherine Seton was born circa 1410.3 She married Sir Alan Stuart laird of Darnley, 2nd Seigneur d'Aubigny, son of Sir John Stuart laird of Darnley, 1st Seigneur d'Aubigny and Lady Elizabeth (?) of Lennox, circa 1429
; her 1st husband.1,4,2 Catherine Seton married Herbert Maxwell of Caerlaverock, 1st Lord Maxwell after 1439
; her 2nd husband.5,2,6
Catherine Seton died before 7 February 1478.3,2
; van de Pas cites: 1. the Royal House of Stuart, London, 1969, 1971, 1976, Addington, A. C., Reference: vol III, page 106
2. The Lineage and Ancestry of H. R. H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: vol I, page 214
3. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 938, Reference: page 920.2 Catherine Seton was also known as Katherine Seton.3
; her 1st husband.1,4,2 Catherine Seton married Herbert Maxwell of Caerlaverock, 1st Lord Maxwell after 1439
; her 2nd husband.5,2,6
Catherine Seton died before 7 February 1478.3,2
; van de Pas cites: 1. the Royal House of Stuart, London, 1969, 1971, 1976, Addington, A. C., Reference: vol III, page 106
2. The Lineage and Ancestry of H. R. H. Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, edinburgh, 1977, Paget, Gerald, Reference: vol I, page 214
3. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 938, Reference: page 920.2 Catherine Seton was also known as Katherine Seton.3
Family 1 | Sir Alan Stuart laird of Darnley, 2nd Seigneur d'Aubigny d. 20 Sep 1438 |
Child |
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Family 2 | Herbert Maxwell of Caerlaverock, 1st Lord Maxwell d. b 14 Feb 1454 |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart Earls of Moray Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Catherine Seton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00006264&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1451] Graphical Index to the Ancestry of Charles II: Table I - Ancestors of Charles II, King of Great Britain (1630-1685), online http://fmg.ac/Projects/CharlesII/Gen1-6.htm. Hereinafter cited as Ancestors of Charles II.
- [S1731] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email #3 17 Jan 2005 "Re: Ancestry of Beatrice, wife of Robert Hauley - Part Two"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 17 Jan 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email #3 17 Jan 2005."
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart Earls of Moray Family Page (see EGLINTO(U)N & WINTON, E).
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Herbert Maxwell: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00191263&tree=LEO
Sir William Seton of Seton1,2
M, #20018, d. 17 August 1424
Father | Sir John Seton of Seton3 |
Mother | Catherine Sinclair of Herdmanstoun4 d. a Mar 1450 |
Last Edited | 7 Aug 2006 |
Sir William Seton of Seton married Janet Dunbar.2
Sir William Seton of Seton died on 17 August 1424 at Battle of Verneuil, Verneuil, France.1,2
; Leo van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936, Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: XI 633.2
Sir William Seton of Seton died on 17 August 1424 at Battle of Verneuil, Verneuil, France.1,2
; Leo van de Pas cites: The Complete Peerage, 1936, Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: XI 633.2
Family | Janet Dunbar |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart Earls of Moray Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir William Seton, of Seton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00205082&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir John Seton, of Seton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00205084&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Catherine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00205085&tree=LEO
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart Earls of Moray Family Page (see EGLINTO(U)N & WINTON, E).
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alice Seton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177810&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Catherine Seton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00006264&tree=LEO
Dedo II von Wettin Mkgf der Sächsischen Ostmark (Niederlausitz, Wettin), Gf im Südliche Schwabengau, Regent in Meissen1,2,3,4
M, #20019, b. circa 1020, d. October 1075
Father | Dietrich II von Wettin Graf im Hassegau u. Siusli, Graf zu Brehna and in Eilenburg, Markgraf der Nieder-Lausitz2,5,6,7,8,4 b. c 990, d. 19 Nov 1034 |
Mother | Matilda (?) von Meissen2,9,6,7,8,4 |
Reference | GAV28 EDV29 |
Last Edited | 4 Jul 2020 |
Dedo II von Wettin Mkgf der Sächsischen Ostmark (Niederlausitz, Wettin), Gf im Südliche Schwabengau, Regent in Meissen was born circa 1020.7 He married Oda (?) of the Ostmark, daughter of Thietmar IV (?) Markgraf der Sächsischen Ostmark and Rainhilda (?) of Beichlingen, after April 1039
;
His 1st wife; her 2nd husband.2,7,4,10,11 Dedo II von Wettin Mkgf der Sächsischen Ostmark (Niederlausitz, Wettin), Gf im Südliche Schwabengau, Regent in Meissen married Adela (?) de Louvain, daughter of Lambert II "Baudri" (?) comte de Louvain, graf van Brussel and Uda/Oda (?) of Lower Lorraine, in 1069
;
Her 2nd husband; his 2nd wife.1,12,2,3,7,4,13,14
Dedo II von Wettin Mkgf der Sächsischen Ostmark (Niederlausitz, Wettin), Gf im Südliche Schwabengau, Regent in Meissen died in October 1075.2,8,7,4
; This is the same person as:
”Dedi II, Margrave of Lusatia” at Wikipedia, as
”Dedo III” at Wikipédia (Fr.),
and as ”Dedo II. (Lausitz)” at Wikipedia (De.)15,16,17 He was Margrave of Eilenberg and the Saxon Ostmark.1
; Per Genealogics:
“Dedi was the second son of Dietrich II, Graf im Hassegau, Graf zu Brehna, and Mathilde von Meissen. He was the margrave of the Saxon Ostmark (also called Lower Lusatia) from 1046 and margrave of Meissen from 1069.
“Dedi inherited the Ostmark from its last dynast, the childless Otto II, because he had married his sister Oda, daughter of Thietmar II, Markgraf von der Lausitz. Oda was herself the widow of Wilhelm III, Graf von Weimar, and mother of Wilhelm and Otto, margraves of Meissen successively. Dedi and Oda had three children of whom Adelheid would have progeny, marrying Ernst 'the Brave', margrave of Austria.
“When his stepson Otto died in 1067 he was succeeded as margrave of Meissen by Ekbert I, Graf von Braunschweig. However in 1069 Dedi married Otto's widow Adela of Louvain, daughter of Lambert II, comte de Louvain, and Oda of Lower-Lorraine, and in her name he claimed the Meissen march. In doing so, Dedi was challenging the royal prerogative in the marches. With him in his revolt was Adalbert, Graf von Ballenstedt, who raided the monastery of Nienburg, a foundation of the family of Dedi's first wife. Adela of Louvain for her part aggressively supported her husband, so much so that the medieval chronicler Lambert of Hersfeld was compelled to call her a _saevissima uxor._ Adalbert, archbishop of Hamburg-Bremen, one of the regents for the young king Heinrich IV, frustrated the Thuringian rebels and preserved the peace in Thuringia and Meissen. Dedi was confined to Lusatia, where he was succeeded by Dedo III, his eldest son from his first marriage.
“Dedi died in October 1075. By Adela of Louvain he had two sons, Heinrich who later ruled both Lusatia and Meissen, and Konrad, who died in battle with the Wends. Neither son left offspring.”.7
Reference: Genealogics cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: I 42.7 GAV-28 EDV-29.
; Per Med Lands:
"DEDO [II] von Wettin, son of DIETRICH Graf in Eilenburg, Graf im Hassegau und Siusli [Wettin] & his wife Mathilde von Meissen (-Oct 1075). The Genealogica Wettinensis names "filios: Fridericum, Dedonem, Thiemonem, Geronem, Conradum, Riddagum, et filiam Hiddam" as children of "comes Tidericus", specifying that "secundus filius Dedo obtinuit marchiam Hodonis marchionis, qui heredem non habuit"[306]. Graf im Gau Siusli 1043. Markgraf der Niederlausitz 1046. Graf im südliche Schwabengau [1046/68].
"m firstly (after Apr 1039) as her second husband, ODA der Ostmark, widow of WILHELM [III] Graf von Weimar, daughter of THIETMAR [IV] Markgraf der Ostmark & his wife --- (-before 1068). The Annalista Saxo names Oda as wife of "Willehelmus comes de Wimmare" and records her second marriage to "Dedoni marchioni", but does not give her origin[307]. The Genealogica Wettinensis names "Odam matrem Othonis marchionis de Orlamunde" as wife of "secundus filius [comitis Tiderici] Dedo"[308].
"m secondly (1069) as her second husband, ADELA de Louvain, widow of OTTO Graf von Weimar Markgraf von Meissen, daughter of LAMBERT II Comte de Louvain & his wife Uda of Lotharingia (-1083). The Annalista Saxo records "Adhelam de Brabantia, ex castello quod Lovene dicitur" as wife of Markgraf Otto, and later her second marriage to Otto's stepfather[309]. The Genealogica Wettinensis names "viduam eius [=Othone marchione]…nata de Brabancia ex castello quod dicitur Levene, erantque fratres eius Heinricus comes et Reiherus" as second wife of "Dedo marchio"[310], but does not name her. "Heinricus…rex" confirmed donations to St Servatius at Maastricht by "marchio Otto de Thuringia eiusque uxor Adela" by charter dated 21 Sep 1062, in the presence of "Friderici ducis, Godefridi marchionis, Lamberti comitis de Brusela filiorumque suorum, Winrici de Wivsehel"[311]. "
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (Wettin): “C2. Dedo II, Mkgf der Ostmark (Niederlausitz) 1046, Gf im Südliche Schwabengau (1046-68), Regent in Meissen (1068-74), +X.1075; 1m: Oda, dau.of Thietmar II, Mkgf der Ostmark; 2m: 1069 Adela de Louvaine (+1083)”.18
; Per Racines et Histoire (Brabant): “Adela de Louvain + 1083 (citée charte de donation 21/09/1062)
ép. 1) avant 1060 Otto von Orlamünde, graf von Weimar , markgraf von Meissen (1062, succède à son frère) + début 1067 (fils de Willem III, graf von Weimar et d’Oda der Ostmark)
ép. 2) 1069 Dedo II von Wettin, markgraf der Sächsischen Ostmark (Niederlausitz, Wettin) + 10/1075 (fils de Dietrich II, graf in Eilenburg (Wettin) et de Mathilde von Meissen)”.8
; Per Med Lands:
"ADELA de Louvain (-1083). The Annalista Saxo records "Adhelam de Brabantia, ex castello quod Lovene dicitur" as wife of Markgraf Otto, and later her second marriage to Otto's stepfather[90]. The Genealogica Wettinensis names "viduam eius [=Othone marchione]…nata de Brabancia ex castello quod dicitur Levene, erantque fratres eius Heinricus comes et Reiherus" as second wife of "Dedo marchio"[91], but does not name her. "Heinricus…rex" confirmed donations to St Servatius at Maastricht by "marchio Otto de Thuringia eiusque uxor Adela" by charter dated 21 Sep 1062, in the presence of "Friderici ducis, Godefridi marchionis, Lamberti comitis de Brusela filiorumque suorum, Winrici de Wivsehel"[92]. Baudouin I Comte de Hainaut (later Baudouin VI Count of Flanders) refers to the donation made by "comitissa de Toringa, neptis meæ Adelæ" to the abbey of Hasnon, in a charter dated 1065[93]. The relationship between Adela and Count Baudouin has not yet been identified.
"m firstly (before 1060) OTTO Graf von Weimar, son of WILLIAM [III] Graf von Weimar & his second wife Oda der Ostmark (-early 1067). He succeeded his brother in 1062 as OTTO Markgraf von Meissen.
"m secondly (1069) as his second wife, DEDO [II] Markgraf der sächsischen Ostmark [Niederlausitz] [Wettin], son of DIETRICH [II] Graf in Eilenburg [Wettin] & his wife Mathilde von Meissen (-Oct 1075)"
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (Brabant 2): “A3. Adela of Louvain, +1083; 1m: before 1060 Otto von Orlamünde (+1067); 2m: 1069 Dedo II von Wettin, Margrave of Niederlausitz (+1075)”.19 He was Mkgf der Ostmark (Niederlausitz) in 1046.2 He was Gf im Südliche Schwabengau between 1046 and 1068.2 He was Regent in Meissen between 1068 and 1074.2
;
His 1st wife; her 2nd husband.2,7,4,10,11 Dedo II von Wettin Mkgf der Sächsischen Ostmark (Niederlausitz, Wettin), Gf im Südliche Schwabengau, Regent in Meissen married Adela (?) de Louvain, daughter of Lambert II "Baudri" (?) comte de Louvain, graf van Brussel and Uda/Oda (?) of Lower Lorraine, in 1069
;
Her 2nd husband; his 2nd wife.1,12,2,3,7,4,13,14
Dedo II von Wettin Mkgf der Sächsischen Ostmark (Niederlausitz, Wettin), Gf im Südliche Schwabengau, Regent in Meissen died in October 1075.2,8,7,4
; This is the same person as:
”Dedi II, Margrave of Lusatia” at Wikipedia, as
”Dedo III” at Wikipédia (Fr.),
and as ”Dedo II. (Lausitz)” at Wikipedia (De.)15,16,17 He was Margrave of Eilenberg and the Saxon Ostmark.1
; Per Genealogics:
“Dedi was the second son of Dietrich II, Graf im Hassegau, Graf zu Brehna, and Mathilde von Meissen. He was the margrave of the Saxon Ostmark (also called Lower Lusatia) from 1046 and margrave of Meissen from 1069.
“Dedi inherited the Ostmark from its last dynast, the childless Otto II, because he had married his sister Oda, daughter of Thietmar II, Markgraf von der Lausitz. Oda was herself the widow of Wilhelm III, Graf von Weimar, and mother of Wilhelm and Otto, margraves of Meissen successively. Dedi and Oda had three children of whom Adelheid would have progeny, marrying Ernst 'the Brave', margrave of Austria.
“When his stepson Otto died in 1067 he was succeeded as margrave of Meissen by Ekbert I, Graf von Braunschweig. However in 1069 Dedi married Otto's widow Adela of Louvain, daughter of Lambert II, comte de Louvain, and Oda of Lower-Lorraine, and in her name he claimed the Meissen march. In doing so, Dedi was challenging the royal prerogative in the marches. With him in his revolt was Adalbert, Graf von Ballenstedt, who raided the monastery of Nienburg, a foundation of the family of Dedi's first wife. Adela of Louvain for her part aggressively supported her husband, so much so that the medieval chronicler Lambert of Hersfeld was compelled to call her a _saevissima uxor._ Adalbert, archbishop of Hamburg-Bremen, one of the regents for the young king Heinrich IV, frustrated the Thuringian rebels and preserved the peace in Thuringia and Meissen. Dedi was confined to Lusatia, where he was succeeded by Dedo III, his eldest son from his first marriage.
“Dedi died in October 1075. By Adela of Louvain he had two sons, Heinrich who later ruled both Lusatia and Meissen, and Konrad, who died in battle with the Wends. Neither son left offspring.”.7
Reference: Genealogics cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: I 42.7 GAV-28 EDV-29.
; Per Med Lands:
"DEDO [II] von Wettin, son of DIETRICH Graf in Eilenburg, Graf im Hassegau und Siusli [Wettin] & his wife Mathilde von Meissen (-Oct 1075). The Genealogica Wettinensis names "filios: Fridericum, Dedonem, Thiemonem, Geronem, Conradum, Riddagum, et filiam Hiddam" as children of "comes Tidericus", specifying that "secundus filius Dedo obtinuit marchiam Hodonis marchionis, qui heredem non habuit"[306]. Graf im Gau Siusli 1043. Markgraf der Niederlausitz 1046. Graf im südliche Schwabengau [1046/68].
"m firstly (after Apr 1039) as her second husband, ODA der Ostmark, widow of WILHELM [III] Graf von Weimar, daughter of THIETMAR [IV] Markgraf der Ostmark & his wife --- (-before 1068). The Annalista Saxo names Oda as wife of "Willehelmus comes de Wimmare" and records her second marriage to "Dedoni marchioni", but does not give her origin[307]. The Genealogica Wettinensis names "Odam matrem Othonis marchionis de Orlamunde" as wife of "secundus filius [comitis Tiderici] Dedo"[308].
"m secondly (1069) as her second husband, ADELA de Louvain, widow of OTTO Graf von Weimar Markgraf von Meissen, daughter of LAMBERT II Comte de Louvain & his wife Uda of Lotharingia (-1083). The Annalista Saxo records "Adhelam de Brabantia, ex castello quod Lovene dicitur" as wife of Markgraf Otto, and later her second marriage to Otto's stepfather[309]. The Genealogica Wettinensis names "viduam eius [=Othone marchione]…nata de Brabancia ex castello quod dicitur Levene, erantque fratres eius Heinricus comes et Reiherus" as second wife of "Dedo marchio"[310], but does not name her. "Heinricus…rex" confirmed donations to St Servatius at Maastricht by "marchio Otto de Thuringia eiusque uxor Adela" by charter dated 21 Sep 1062, in the presence of "Friderici ducis, Godefridi marchionis, Lamberti comitis de Brusela filiorumque suorum, Winrici de Wivsehel"[311]. "
Med Lands cites:
[306] Genealogica Wettinensis, MGH SS XXIII, p. 227.
[307] Annalista Saxo 1046.
[308] Genealogica Wettinensis, MGH SS XXIII, p. 227.
[309] Annalista Saxo 1062 and 1070.
[310] Genealogica Wettinensis, MGH SS XXIII, p. 227.
[311] D H IV 91, p. 118.4
[307] Annalista Saxo 1046.
[308] Genealogica Wettinensis, MGH SS XXIII, p. 227.
[309] Annalista Saxo 1062 and 1070.
[310] Genealogica Wettinensis, MGH SS XXIII, p. 227.
[311] D H IV 91, p. 118.4
; Per Genealogy.EU (Wettin): “C2. Dedo II, Mkgf der Ostmark (Niederlausitz) 1046, Gf im Südliche Schwabengau (1046-68), Regent in Meissen (1068-74), +X.1075; 1m: Oda, dau.of Thietmar II, Mkgf der Ostmark; 2m: 1069 Adela de Louvaine (+1083)”.18
; Per Racines et Histoire (Brabant): “Adela de Louvain + 1083 (citée charte de donation 21/09/1062)
ép. 1) avant 1060 Otto von Orlamünde, graf von Weimar , markgraf von Meissen (1062, succède à son frère) + début 1067 (fils de Willem III, graf von Weimar et d’Oda der Ostmark)
ép. 2) 1069 Dedo II von Wettin, markgraf der Sächsischen Ostmark (Niederlausitz, Wettin) + 10/1075 (fils de Dietrich II, graf in Eilenburg (Wettin) et de Mathilde von Meissen)”.8
; Per Med Lands:
"ADELA de Louvain (-1083). The Annalista Saxo records "Adhelam de Brabantia, ex castello quod Lovene dicitur" as wife of Markgraf Otto, and later her second marriage to Otto's stepfather[90]. The Genealogica Wettinensis names "viduam eius [=Othone marchione]…nata de Brabancia ex castello quod dicitur Levene, erantque fratres eius Heinricus comes et Reiherus" as second wife of "Dedo marchio"[91], but does not name her. "Heinricus…rex" confirmed donations to St Servatius at Maastricht by "marchio Otto de Thuringia eiusque uxor Adela" by charter dated 21 Sep 1062, in the presence of "Friderici ducis, Godefridi marchionis, Lamberti comitis de Brusela filiorumque suorum, Winrici de Wivsehel"[92]. Baudouin I Comte de Hainaut (later Baudouin VI Count of Flanders) refers to the donation made by "comitissa de Toringa, neptis meæ Adelæ" to the abbey of Hasnon, in a charter dated 1065[93]. The relationship between Adela and Count Baudouin has not yet been identified.
"m firstly (before 1060) OTTO Graf von Weimar, son of WILLIAM [III] Graf von Weimar & his second wife Oda der Ostmark (-early 1067). He succeeded his brother in 1062 as OTTO Markgraf von Meissen.
"m secondly (1069) as his second wife, DEDO [II] Markgraf der sächsischen Ostmark [Niederlausitz] [Wettin], son of DIETRICH [II] Graf in Eilenburg [Wettin] & his wife Mathilde von Meissen (-Oct 1075)"
Med Lands cites:
[90] Annalista Saxo 1062 and 1070.
[91] Genealogica Wettinensis, MGH SS XXIII, p. 227.
[92] D H IV 91, p. 118.
[93] Duvivier, C. (1865) Recherches sur le Hainaut ancien (Brussels), 405, quoted in Vanderkindere (1902), Vol. II, p. 114.14
[91] Genealogica Wettinensis, MGH SS XXIII, p. 227.
[92] D H IV 91, p. 118.
[93] Duvivier, C. (1865) Recherches sur le Hainaut ancien (Brussels), 405, quoted in Vanderkindere (1902), Vol. II, p. 114.14
; Per Genealogy.EU (Brabant 2): “A3. Adela of Louvain, +1083; 1m: before 1060 Otto von Orlamünde (+1067); 2m: 1069 Dedo II von Wettin, Margrave of Niederlausitz (+1075)”.19 He was Mkgf der Ostmark (Niederlausitz) in 1046.2 He was Gf im Südliche Schwabengau between 1046 and 1068.2 He was Regent in Meissen between 1068 and 1074.2
Family 1 | Oda (?) of the Ostmark d. b 1068 |
Children |
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Family 2 | Adela (?) de Louvain d. 1083 |
Children |
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Milford Haven Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Wettin 1 page (The House of Wettin): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wettin/wettin1.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Brabant.pdf, p. 4. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#DedoIIdied1075. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dietrich II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00022879&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#Dietrichdied1034
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dedi II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120932&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Ducs de Brabant grafen im Maasgau, comtes de Louvain (Leuven), seigneurs de Perwez et Lovain(e) (Angleterre), p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Brabant.pdf
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde von Meissen: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00022880&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Oda: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079995&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#OdaM1WilhelmIIIWeimarM2DediIIWettin
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Brabant 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brabant/brabant2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adela de Louvain: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00080039&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRABANT,%20LOUVAIN.htm#AdelaLouvaindied1083.
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedi_II,_Margrave_of_Lusatia. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Dedo III: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedo_III. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
- [S4759] Wikipedia - Die freie Enzyklopädie, online https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hauptseite, Dedo II. (Lausitz): https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedo_II._(Lausitz). Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (DE).
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Wettin 1 page - The House of Wettin: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wettin/wettin1.html
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Brabant 2: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brabant/brabant2.html#AL2
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dedo III der Ostmark: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120933&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes der Ostmark: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120934&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adelheid von der Ostmark: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079794&tree=LEO
Oda (?) of the Ostmark1,2
F, #20020, d. before 1068
Father | Thietmar IV (?) Markgraf der Sächsischen Ostmark1,3,4,5 b. c 986, d. 1030 |
Mother | Rainhilda (?) of Beichlingen5 b. c 986 |
Reference | GAV28 EDV29 |
Last Edited | 4 Jul 2020 |
Oda (?) of the Ostmark married Wilhelm III (?) Graf von Weimar, son of Wilhelm II 'der Grosse' (?) Graf von Weimar and (?) von Grabfeld,
;
Her 1st husband; his 2nd wife.3,5,6,7 Oda (?) of the Ostmark married Dedo II von Wettin Mkgf der Sächsischen Ostmark (Niederlausitz, Wettin), Gf im Südliche Schwabengau, Regent in Meissen, son of Dietrich II von Wettin Graf im Hassegau u. Siusli, Graf zu Brehna and in Eilenburg, Markgraf der Nieder-Lausitz and Matilda (?) von Meissen, after April 1039
;
His 1st wife; her 2nd husband.1,8,9,3,5
Oda (?) of the Ostmark died before 1068.3,5
; Per Med Lands:
"DEDO [II] von Wettin, son of DIETRICH Graf in Eilenburg, Graf im Hassegau und Siusli [Wettin] & his wife Mathilde von Meissen (-Oct 1075). The Genealogica Wettinensis names "filios: Fridericum, Dedonem, Thiemonem, Geronem, Conradum, Riddagum, et filiam Hiddam" as children of "comes Tidericus", specifying that "secundus filius Dedo obtinuit marchiam Hodonis marchionis, qui heredem non habuit"[306]. Graf im Gau Siusli 1043. Markgraf der Niederlausitz 1046. Graf im südliche Schwabengau [1046/68].
"m firstly (after Apr 1039) as her second husband, ODA der Ostmark, widow of WILHELM [III] Graf von Weimar, daughter of THIETMAR [IV] Markgraf der Ostmark & his wife --- (-before 1068). The Annalista Saxo names Oda as wife of "Willehelmus comes de Wimmare" and records her second marriage to "Dedoni marchioni", but does not give her origin[307]. The Genealogica Wettinensis names "Odam matrem Othonis marchionis de Orlamunde" as wife of "secundus filius [comitis Tiderici] Dedo"[308].
"m secondly (1069) as her second husband, ADELA de Louvain, widow of OTTO Graf von Weimar Markgraf von Meissen, daughter of LAMBERT II Comte de Louvain & his wife Uda of Lotharingia (-1083). The Annalista Saxo records "Adhelam de Brabantia, ex castello quod Lovene dicitur" as wife of Markgraf Otto, and later her second marriage to Otto's stepfather[309]. The Genealogica Wettinensis names "viduam eius [=Othone marchione]…nata de Brabancia ex castello quod dicitur Levene, erantque fratres eius Heinricus comes et Reiherus" as second wife of "Dedo marchio"[310], but does not name her. "Heinricus…rex" confirmed donations to St Servatius at Maastricht by "marchio Otto de Thuringia eiusque uxor Adela" by charter dated 21 Sep 1062, in the presence of "Friderici ducis, Godefridi marchionis, Lamberti comitis de Brusela filiorumque suorum, Winrici de Wivsehel"[311]. "
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (Wettin): “C2. Dedo II, Mkgf der Ostmark (Niederlausitz) 1046, Gf im Südliche Schwabengau (1046-68), Regent in Meissen (1068-74), +X.1075; 1m: Oda, dau.of Thietmar II, Mkgf der Ostmark; 2m: 1069 Adela de Louvaine (+1083)”.10
Reference: Genealogics cites: The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 29.3
; Per Med Lands:
"ODA (-before 1068). The Annalista Saxo names Oda as wife of "Willehelmus comes de Wimmare" and records her second marriage to "Dedoni marchioni", but does not give her origin[82]. The Genealogica Wettinensis names "Odam matrem Othonis marchionis de Orlamunde" as wife of "secundus filius [comitis Tiderici] Dedo"[83]. The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified.
"m firstly as his second wife, WILHELM [III] Graf von Weimar, son of WILHELM [II] "der Große" Graf von Weimar & his wife --- (-16 Apr 1039).
"m secondly as his first wife, DEDO [II], son of DIETRICH [II] Graf in Eilenburg [Wettin] & his wife Mathilde von Meissen (-Oct 1075). Markgraf der sächsischen Ostmark 1046."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"WILHELM [III] (-16 Apr 1039). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Graf von Weimar. "Heinricus…Romanorum imperator augustus" donated property "que Gebehardus comes in beneficium habuit, in comitatu Piligrimi et in pago Matihgowe" to Kloster Fulda by charter dated 30 Dec 1014, with the consent of "Willehelmi comitis et fratris eius Popponis["[1174]. Emperor Heinrich II donated property of "Willihelmus comes et Boppo frater eius in villa Winetre in pago Auelgouue in comitatu Ezzonis comitis" to Kloster St Petrus at Bonn by charter dated 25 Feb 1015[1175]. It appears unlikely that these charters refer to Wilhelm [III] Graf von Weimar and his brother Poppo as the latter was already "Markgraf" of Carniola by 1012 and would presumably have been referred to by this title in documentation in subsequent years. However, no other brothers of these names have yet been identified at that time.] Graf in Eichsfeld 1022.
"m firstly BERTA, daughter of ---. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified.
"m secondly as her first husband, ODA der Ostmark, daughter of THIETMAR [IV] Markgraf der Ostmark & his wife --- (-before 1068). The Annalista Saxo names Oda as wife of "Willehelmus comes de Wimmare" and records her second marriage to "Dedoni marchioni", but does not state her origin[1176]. The Genealogica Wettinensis names "Odam matrem Othonis marchionis de Orlamunde" as wife of "secundus filius [comitis Tiderici] Dedo"[1177]. She married secondly (after Apr 1039) as his first wife, Dedo II Markgraf der sächsischen Ostmark [Wettin]."
Med Lands cites:
;
Her 1st husband; his 2nd wife.3,5,6,7 Oda (?) of the Ostmark married Dedo II von Wettin Mkgf der Sächsischen Ostmark (Niederlausitz, Wettin), Gf im Südliche Schwabengau, Regent in Meissen, son of Dietrich II von Wettin Graf im Hassegau u. Siusli, Graf zu Brehna and in Eilenburg, Markgraf der Nieder-Lausitz and Matilda (?) von Meissen, after April 1039
;
His 1st wife; her 2nd husband.1,8,9,3,5
Oda (?) of the Ostmark died before 1068.3,5
; Per Med Lands:
"DEDO [II] von Wettin, son of DIETRICH Graf in Eilenburg, Graf im Hassegau und Siusli [Wettin] & his wife Mathilde von Meissen (-Oct 1075). The Genealogica Wettinensis names "filios: Fridericum, Dedonem, Thiemonem, Geronem, Conradum, Riddagum, et filiam Hiddam" as children of "comes Tidericus", specifying that "secundus filius Dedo obtinuit marchiam Hodonis marchionis, qui heredem non habuit"[306]. Graf im Gau Siusli 1043. Markgraf der Niederlausitz 1046. Graf im südliche Schwabengau [1046/68].
"m firstly (after Apr 1039) as her second husband, ODA der Ostmark, widow of WILHELM [III] Graf von Weimar, daughter of THIETMAR [IV] Markgraf der Ostmark & his wife --- (-before 1068). The Annalista Saxo names Oda as wife of "Willehelmus comes de Wimmare" and records her second marriage to "Dedoni marchioni", but does not give her origin[307]. The Genealogica Wettinensis names "Odam matrem Othonis marchionis de Orlamunde" as wife of "secundus filius [comitis Tiderici] Dedo"[308].
"m secondly (1069) as her second husband, ADELA de Louvain, widow of OTTO Graf von Weimar Markgraf von Meissen, daughter of LAMBERT II Comte de Louvain & his wife Uda of Lotharingia (-1083). The Annalista Saxo records "Adhelam de Brabantia, ex castello quod Lovene dicitur" as wife of Markgraf Otto, and later her second marriage to Otto's stepfather[309]. The Genealogica Wettinensis names "viduam eius [=Othone marchione]…nata de Brabancia ex castello quod dicitur Levene, erantque fratres eius Heinricus comes et Reiherus" as second wife of "Dedo marchio"[310], but does not name her. "Heinricus…rex" confirmed donations to St Servatius at Maastricht by "marchio Otto de Thuringia eiusque uxor Adela" by charter dated 21 Sep 1062, in the presence of "Friderici ducis, Godefridi marchionis, Lamberti comitis de Brusela filiorumque suorum, Winrici de Wivsehel"[311]. "
Med Lands cites:
[306] Genealogica Wettinensis, MGH SS XXIII, p. 227.
[307] Annalista Saxo 1046.
[308] Genealogica Wettinensis, MGH SS XXIII, p. 227.
[309] Annalista Saxo 1062 and 1070.
[310] Genealogica Wettinensis, MGH SS XXIII, p. 227.
[311] D H IV 91, p. 118.9
[307] Annalista Saxo 1046.
[308] Genealogica Wettinensis, MGH SS XXIII, p. 227.
[309] Annalista Saxo 1062 and 1070.
[310] Genealogica Wettinensis, MGH SS XXIII, p. 227.
[311] D H IV 91, p. 118.9
; Per Genealogy.EU (Wettin): “C2. Dedo II, Mkgf der Ostmark (Niederlausitz) 1046, Gf im Südliche Schwabengau (1046-68), Regent in Meissen (1068-74), +X.1075; 1m: Oda, dau.of Thietmar II, Mkgf der Ostmark; 2m: 1069 Adela de Louvaine (+1083)”.10
Reference: Genealogics cites: The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 29.3
; Per Med Lands:
"ODA (-before 1068). The Annalista Saxo names Oda as wife of "Willehelmus comes de Wimmare" and records her second marriage to "Dedoni marchioni", but does not give her origin[82]. The Genealogica Wettinensis names "Odam matrem Othonis marchionis de Orlamunde" as wife of "secundus filius [comitis Tiderici] Dedo"[83]. The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified.
"m firstly as his second wife, WILHELM [III] Graf von Weimar, son of WILHELM [II] "der Große" Graf von Weimar & his wife --- (-16 Apr 1039).
"m secondly as his first wife, DEDO [II], son of DIETRICH [II] Graf in Eilenburg [Wettin] & his wife Mathilde von Meissen (-Oct 1075). Markgraf der sächsischen Ostmark 1046."
Med Lands cites:
[82] Annalista Saxo 1046.
[83] Genealogica Wettinensis, MGH SS XXIII, p. 227.5
GAV-28 EDV-29. [83] Genealogica Wettinensis, MGH SS XXIII, p. 227.5
; Per Med Lands:
"WILHELM [III] (-16 Apr 1039). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Graf von Weimar. "Heinricus…Romanorum imperator augustus" donated property "que Gebehardus comes in beneficium habuit, in comitatu Piligrimi et in pago Matihgowe" to Kloster Fulda by charter dated 30 Dec 1014, with the consent of "Willehelmi comitis et fratris eius Popponis["[1174]. Emperor Heinrich II donated property of "Willihelmus comes et Boppo frater eius in villa Winetre in pago Auelgouue in comitatu Ezzonis comitis" to Kloster St Petrus at Bonn by charter dated 25 Feb 1015[1175]. It appears unlikely that these charters refer to Wilhelm [III] Graf von Weimar and his brother Poppo as the latter was already "Markgraf" of Carniola by 1012 and would presumably have been referred to by this title in documentation in subsequent years. However, no other brothers of these names have yet been identified at that time.] Graf in Eichsfeld 1022.
"m firstly BERTA, daughter of ---. The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified.
"m secondly as her first husband, ODA der Ostmark, daughter of THIETMAR [IV] Markgraf der Ostmark & his wife --- (-before 1068). The Annalista Saxo names Oda as wife of "Willehelmus comes de Wimmare" and records her second marriage to "Dedoni marchioni", but does not state her origin[1176]. The Genealogica Wettinensis names "Odam matrem Othonis marchionis de Orlamunde" as wife of "secundus filius [comitis Tiderici] Dedo"[1177]. She married secondly (after Apr 1039) as his first wife, Dedo II Markgraf der sächsischen Ostmark [Wettin]."
Med Lands cites:
Family 1 | Wilhelm III (?) Graf von Weimar d. 16 Apr 1039 |
Child |
Family 2 | Dedo II von Wettin Mkgf der Sächsischen Ostmark (Niederlausitz, Wettin), Gf im Südliche Schwabengau, Regent in Meissen b. c 1020, d. Oct 1075 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Wettin 1 page (The House of Wettin): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wettin/wettin1.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Oda: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079995&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Oda: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079995&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thietmar II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079996&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#OdaM1WilhelmIIIWeimarM2DediIIWettin. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Wilhelm III: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079994&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/THURINGIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#WilhelmIIIWeimardied1039
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dedi II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120932&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#DedoIIdied1075
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Wettin 1 page - The House of Wettin: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wettin/wettin1.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Ducs de Brabant grafen im Maasgau, comtes de Louvain (Leuven), seigneurs de Perwez et Lovain(e) (Angleterre), p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Brabant.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Otto: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00030595&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/THURINGIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#OttoWeimardied1067
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dedo III der Ostmark: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120933&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes der Ostmark: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120934&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adelheid von der Ostmark: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079794&tree=LEO
George Seton of Seton, 1st Baron Seton1,2
M, #20021, d. after 15 July 1478
Father | Sir William Seton of Seton1,3 d. 17 Aug 1424 |
Mother | Janet Dunbar4 |
Last Edited | 20 Jun 2006 |
George Seton of Seton, 1st Baron Seton married Margaret Stewart Heiress of Buchan, daughter of John Stuart Earl of Buchan, Great Chamberlain of Scotland and Elizabeth Douglas, in 1436
; his 1st wife, Burke's says m. 1436; van de Pas says m. "bef 8 Jan 1437.5,2 "
George Seton of Seton, 1st Baron Seton died after 15 July 1478.2
; his 1st wife, Burke's says m. 1436; van de Pas says m. "bef 8 Jan 1437.5,2 "
George Seton of Seton, 1st Baron Seton died after 15 July 1478.2
Family | Margaret Stewart Heiress of Buchan d. b 8 Jan 1461 |
Child |
|
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart Earls of Moray Family Page (see EGLINTO(U)N & WINTON, E). Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, George Seton, of Seton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00205080&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sir William Seton, of Seton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00205082&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Janet Dunbar: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00205083&tree=LEO
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Stuart Earls of Moray Family Page.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John Seton: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00043455&tree=LEO
Dedo III (?) Mkgf der Lausitz1,2
M, #20022, d. before 26 October 1069
Father | Dedo II von Wettin Mkgf der Sächsischen Ostmark (Niederlausitz, Wettin), Gf im Südliche Schwabengau, Regent in Meissen1,2,3,4 b. c 1020, d. Oct 1075 |
Mother | Oda (?) of the Ostmark1,2,4,5 d. b 1068 |
Last Edited | 4 Jul 2020 |
Dedo III (?) Mkgf der Lausitz died before 26 October 1069; murdered.1,2
; Leo van de Pas cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: I 42.2
; [1m.] Dedo III, Mkgf der Lausitz, +murdered before 26.10.1069, bur Meissen.1
; Leo van de Pas cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: I 42.2
; [1m.] Dedo III, Mkgf der Lausitz, +murdered before 26.10.1069, bur Meissen.1
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Wettin 1 page - The House of Wettin: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/wettin/wettin1.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dedo III der Ostmark: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120933&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dedi II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120932&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#DedoIIdied1075. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Oda: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00079995&tree=LEO
Rainhilda (?) of Beichlingen
F, #20023, b. circa 986
Reference | GAV29 EDV30 |
Last Edited | 4 Jul 2020 |
Rainhilda (?) of Beichlingen married Thietmar IV (?) Markgraf der Sächsischen Ostmark, son of Gero II (?) Markgraf der Sächsischen Ostmark, Graf im Hassegau and Adelaide (?).
Rainhilda (?) of Beichlingen was born circa 986.
GAV-29 EDV-30.
Rainhilda (?) of Beichlingen was born circa 986.
GAV-29 EDV-30.
Family | Thietmar IV (?) Markgraf der Sächsischen Ostmark b. c 986, d. 1030 |
Child |
|
Citations
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#OdaM1WilhelmIIIWeimarM2DediIIWettin. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Gero II (?) Markgraf der Sächsischen Ostmark, Graf im Hassegau1,2
M, #20024, b. between 970 and 975, d. 1 September 1015
Father | Thietmar III (?) Graf der Mark Merseburg und der Mark Meissen, Graf von Thüringen2,3 b. bt 925 - 930, d. a 3 Aug 979 |
Mother | Schwanhild|Suanehild (?) von Saxony2 b. c 941, d. 24 Nov 1014 |
Reference | GAV30 EDV31 |
Last Edited | 8 Apr 2020 |
Gero II (?) Markgraf der Sächsischen Ostmark, Graf im Hassegau married Adelaide (?)2
Gero II (?) Markgraf der Sächsischen Ostmark, Graf im Hassegau was born between 970 and 975.2
Gero II (?) Markgraf der Sächsischen Ostmark, Graf im Hassegau died on 1 September 1015 at Gau Diadesi (then, now Krosno Odrzanskie), Lubusz, Poland (now); Per Find A Grave: "He died in his territory in battle with a Polish army of Boleslaw I in Gau Diadesi."1,2
Gero II (?) Markgraf der Sächsischen Ostmark, Graf im Hassegau was buried after 1 September 1015 at Kloster Nienburg an der Saale, Nienburg/Saale, Salzlandkreis, Sachsen-Anhalt, Germany; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH unknown
DEATH 1 Sep 1015, Poland
Gero II (c. 975 – 1 September 1015 at Krosno Odrzan'skie) was the eldest son of Thietmar, Margrave of Meissen, and Suanhild the daughter of Herman, Duke of Saxony. He was therefore probably a grandson of Hidda and Christian of Thuringia and named for his great uncle Gero the Great. He succeeded his uncle, Hodo, as Margrave of the Saxon Ostmark including Mark Lausitz (Lusatia) in 993 upon the death of Hodo, Margrave of the Saxon Ostmark.
Gero was created Count of Hassegau in 992, just a year before becoming margrave. He died in his territory in battle with a Polish army of Boleslaw I in Gau Diadesi and was buried in his family's monastery of Nienburg. He was survived by his wife Adelaide (Athelheidhe) and one son, Thietmar, who succeeded him.
Family Members
Parents
Thietmar of Meissen
Suanhilde Billung unknown–1014
Children
Thietmar of the Saxon Ostmark unknown–1030
BURIAL Kloster Nienburg, Nienburg/Saale, Salzlandkreis, Sachsen-Anhalt, Germany
Created by: Kat
Added: 1 Sep 2012
Find a Grave Memorial 96354710.1,2
; Per Genealogics: "Gero was born at Krossen about 975, the eldest son of Thietmar, Markgraf von der Ostmark, and Schwanhild von Sachsen. He was named for his great uncle Gero 'the Great'. In 993 he succeeded his probable uncle Odo I as margrave of the Saxon Ostmark including Mark Lausitz (Lusatia). Gero was created count of Hassegau in 992, just a year before becoming margrave. He died on 1 September 1015 in Gau Diadesi in battle against a Polish army of Boleslaw I Chrobry, and was buried in the family's monastery of Nienburg. He was survived by his wife Adelaida and a son Thietmar, who succeeded him."
[See Note Per Med Lands]4
; Per Wikipedia:
"Gero II (c. 975 – 1 September 1015 at Krosno Odrza?skie) was the eldest son of Thietmar, Margrave of Meissen, and Schwanehilde (Suanhild), daughter of Herman, Duke of Saxony. He was therefore probably a grandson of Hidda and Christian of Thuringia and named for his great uncle Gero the Great. He succeeded his probable uncle, Hodo, as Margrave of the Saxon Ostmark including Mark Lausitz (Lusatia) in 993 upon the death of margrave of Lusatia Hodo or Odo I, Margrave of the Saxon Ostmark.
"Gero was created Count of Hassegau in 992, just a year before becoming margrave. He died in his territory in battle with a Polish army of Boleslaw I in Gau Diadesi and was buried in his family's monastery of Nienburg. He was survived by his wife Adelaide (Athelheidhe) and one son, Thietmar, who succeeded him.
References
** Medieval Lands Project: Nobility of Meissen: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#_Toc155843804"
[See Note Per Med Lands].5
; Per Med Lands:
"GERO [II] ([970/75]-killed in battle Gau Diadesi 1 Sep 1015, bur Kloster Nienburg). "Geronem marchionem" is named in the Annalista Saxo, which also records his parentage[73]. A boy [puer] in 980, which provides the basis for estimating his birth date range. Graf im Hassegau 992. Markgraf [der Lausitz] 993. "…Gero comes…" was among the witnesses of the charter dated 1013 under which "Henricus…imperator augustus" renewed his 1007 judgment concerning a dispute between Willigis Archbishop of Mainz and Bernward Bishop of Hildesheim[74], although it is not certain that this is the same person as he is described as "comes" rather than "marchio". Thietmar records the death of "Markgraf Gero" in battle against the Poles, dated to 1015, and his burial at Nienburg[75].
"m ADELHEID, daughter of ---. 1015. The Annalista Saxo names "Athelheidhe" as wife of "Thietmarus marchio", but does not give her origin[76]. Thietmar names Adelheid widow of Markgraf Gero at her husband's burial[77]."
Med Lands cites:
Gero II (?) Markgraf der Sächsischen Ostmark, Graf im Hassegau was born between 970 and 975.2
Gero II (?) Markgraf der Sächsischen Ostmark, Graf im Hassegau died on 1 September 1015 at Gau Diadesi (then, now Krosno Odrzanskie), Lubusz, Poland (now); Per Find A Grave: "He died in his territory in battle with a Polish army of Boleslaw I in Gau Diadesi."1,2
Gero II (?) Markgraf der Sächsischen Ostmark, Graf im Hassegau was buried after 1 September 1015 at Kloster Nienburg an der Saale, Nienburg/Saale, Salzlandkreis, Sachsen-Anhalt, Germany; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH unknown
DEATH 1 Sep 1015, Poland
Gero II (c. 975 – 1 September 1015 at Krosno Odrzan'skie) was the eldest son of Thietmar, Margrave of Meissen, and Suanhild the daughter of Herman, Duke of Saxony. He was therefore probably a grandson of Hidda and Christian of Thuringia and named for his great uncle Gero the Great. He succeeded his uncle, Hodo, as Margrave of the Saxon Ostmark including Mark Lausitz (Lusatia) in 993 upon the death of Hodo, Margrave of the Saxon Ostmark.
Gero was created Count of Hassegau in 992, just a year before becoming margrave. He died in his territory in battle with a Polish army of Boleslaw I in Gau Diadesi and was buried in his family's monastery of Nienburg. He was survived by his wife Adelaide (Athelheidhe) and one son, Thietmar, who succeeded him.
Family Members
Parents
Thietmar of Meissen
Suanhilde Billung unknown–1014
Children
Thietmar of the Saxon Ostmark unknown–1030
BURIAL Kloster Nienburg, Nienburg/Saale, Salzlandkreis, Sachsen-Anhalt, Germany
Created by: Kat
Added: 1 Sep 2012
Find a Grave Memorial 96354710.1,2
; Per Genealogics: "Gero was born at Krossen about 975, the eldest son of Thietmar, Markgraf von der Ostmark, and Schwanhild von Sachsen. He was named for his great uncle Gero 'the Great'. In 993 he succeeded his probable uncle Odo I as margrave of the Saxon Ostmark including Mark Lausitz (Lusatia). Gero was created count of Hassegau in 992, just a year before becoming margrave. He died on 1 September 1015 in Gau Diadesi in battle against a Polish army of Boleslaw I Chrobry, and was buried in the family's monastery of Nienburg. He was survived by his wife Adelaida and a son Thietmar, who succeeded him."
[See Note Per Med Lands]4
; Per Wikipedia:
"Gero II (c. 975 – 1 September 1015 at Krosno Odrza?skie) was the eldest son of Thietmar, Margrave of Meissen, and Schwanehilde (Suanhild), daughter of Herman, Duke of Saxony. He was therefore probably a grandson of Hidda and Christian of Thuringia and named for his great uncle Gero the Great. He succeeded his probable uncle, Hodo, as Margrave of the Saxon Ostmark including Mark Lausitz (Lusatia) in 993 upon the death of margrave of Lusatia Hodo or Odo I, Margrave of the Saxon Ostmark.
"Gero was created Count of Hassegau in 992, just a year before becoming margrave. He died in his territory in battle with a Polish army of Boleslaw I in Gau Diadesi and was buried in his family's monastery of Nienburg. He was survived by his wife Adelaide (Athelheidhe) and one son, Thietmar, who succeeded him.
References
** Medieval Lands Project: Nobility of Meissen: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#_Toc155843804"
[See Note Per Med Lands].5
; Per Med Lands:
"GERO [II] ([970/75]-killed in battle Gau Diadesi 1 Sep 1015, bur Kloster Nienburg). "Geronem marchionem" is named in the Annalista Saxo, which also records his parentage[73]. A boy [puer] in 980, which provides the basis for estimating his birth date range. Graf im Hassegau 992. Markgraf [der Lausitz] 993. "…Gero comes…" was among the witnesses of the charter dated 1013 under which "Henricus…imperator augustus" renewed his 1007 judgment concerning a dispute between Willigis Archbishop of Mainz and Bernward Bishop of Hildesheim[74], although it is not certain that this is the same person as he is described as "comes" rather than "marchio". Thietmar records the death of "Markgraf Gero" in battle against the Poles, dated to 1015, and his burial at Nienburg[75].
"m ADELHEID, daughter of ---. 1015. The Annalista Saxo names "Athelheidhe" as wife of "Thietmarus marchio", but does not give her origin[76]. Thietmar names Adelheid widow of Markgraf Gero at her husband's burial[77]."
Med Lands cites:
[73] Annalista Saxo 978 and 1002.
[74] D H II 255, p. 293.
[75] Thietmar 7.21 and 22, pp. 320-1, footnote 41 citing the Necrology of Merseburg which records his death on Sep 1.
[76] Annalista Saxo 1029.
[77] Thietmar 7.22, p. 322.2
GAV-30 EDV-31.[74] D H II 255, p. 293.
[75] Thietmar 7.21 and 22, pp. 320-1, footnote 41 citing the Necrology of Merseburg which records his death on Sep 1.
[76] Annalista Saxo 1029.
[77] Thietmar 7.22, p. 322.2
Family | Adelaide (?) b. c 956 |
Child |
|
Citations
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 08 April 2020), memorial page for Gero II of the Saxon Ostmark (unknown–1 Sep 1015), Find a Grave Memorial no. 96354710, citing Kloster Nienburg, Nienburg/Saale, Salzlandkreis, Sachsen-Anhalt, Germany ; Maintained by Kat (contributor 47496397), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/96354710/gero_ii-of_the_saxon_ostmark. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#ThietmarIdiedafter979. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thietmar: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00422387&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gero II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00572249&tree=LEO
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gero_II,_Margrave_of_the_Saxon_Ostmark. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
Adelaide (?)
F, #20025, b. circa 956
Reference | GAV30 EDV31 |
Last Edited | 8 Apr 2020 |
Adelaide (?) married Gero II (?) Markgraf der Sächsischen Ostmark, Graf im Hassegau, son of Thietmar III (?) Graf der Mark Merseburg und der Mark Meissen, Graf von Thüringen and Schwanhild|Suanehild (?) von Saxony.1
Adelaide (?) was born circa 956.
GAV-30 EDV-31 GKJ-32.
; Per Med Lands:
"m ADELHEID, daughter of ---. 1015. The Annalista Saxo names "Athelheidhe" as wife of "Thietmarus marchio", but does not give her origin[76]. Thietmar names Adelheid widow of Markgraf Gero at her husband's burial[77]."
Med Lands cites:
Adelaide (?) was born circa 956.
GAV-30 EDV-31 GKJ-32.
; Per Med Lands:
"m ADELHEID, daughter of ---. 1015. The Annalista Saxo names "Athelheidhe" as wife of "Thietmarus marchio", but does not give her origin[76]. Thietmar names Adelheid widow of Markgraf Gero at her husband's burial[77]."
Med Lands cites:
[76] Annalista Saxo 1029.
[77] Thietmar 7.22, p. 322.1
Adelaide (?) was also known as Adelheid (?)1[77] Thietmar 7.22, p. 322.1
Family | Gero II (?) Markgraf der Sächsischen Ostmark, Graf im Hassegau b. bt 970 - 975, d. 1 Sep 1015 |
Child |
|
Citations
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#ThietmarIdiedafter979. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Thietmar III (?) Graf der Mark Merseburg und der Mark Meissen, Graf von Thüringen1,2
M, #20026, b. between 925 and 930, d. after 3 August 979
Father | Christian (?) Markgraf der Sächsischen Ostmark3,4 d. a 945 |
Mother | Hidda (?)3,4 d. bt 947 - 975 |
Reference | GAV31 EDV32 |
Last Edited | 8 Apr 2020 |
Thietmar III (?) Graf der Mark Merseburg und der Mark Meissen, Graf von Thüringen married Schwanhild|Suanehild (?) von Saxony, daughter of Hermann Billung (?) Mkgf of Lower Elbe, Herzog von Sachsen and Oda (?),
;
Her 1st husband.5,1,4 Thietmar III (?) Graf der Mark Merseburg und der Mark Meissen, Graf von Thüringen was born between 925 and 930.1
Thietmar III (?) Graf der Mark Merseburg und der Mark Meissen, Graf von Thüringen died after 3 August 979.1
Thietmar III (?) Graf der Mark Merseburg und der Mark Meissen, Graf von Thüringen was buried after 3 August 979 at Kloster Nienburg an der Saale, Nienburg/Saale, Salzlandkreis, Sachsen-Anhalt, Germany; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH unknown, Meissen, Landkreis Meißen, Saxony (Sachsen), Germany
DEATH unknown
Thietmar born about 925 and died August 3, 979 was the Margrave of Meissen from 970 until his death. Thietmar was the eldest of three brothers, all sons of Hidda, sister of Gero the Great, and Count Christian of Thuringia. His brothers were Gero, Archbishop of Cologne, and Odo I, Margrave of the Saxon Ostmark.
In 951, he was first recorded as Count of Gau Serimunt, following his father Christian. Between 951 and 978, he was also Count of Schwabengau. After the death of his uncle Gero in 965, Thietmar inherited large parts of whose Marca Geronis. He married Schwanehilde (Suanhild), daughter of Margrave Hermann Billung, and had one son: Gero II, who in 993 would become Margrave of the Saxon Eastern March. On August 29, 970, Thietmar and his brother Gero founded the abbey of Thankmarsfelde. It was moved to Nienburg on the Saale river at the mouth of the Bode in 975 and that is where Thietmar is buried. Thietmar was succeeded by Rikdag. His widow Suanhilde married Rikdag's successor Eckard I.
Family Members
Spouse
Suanhilde Billung unknown–1014
Children
Gero II of the Saxon Ostmark unknown–1015
BURIAL Kloster Nienburg, Nienburg/Saale, Salzlandkreis, Sachsen-Anhalt, Germany
Created by: Kat
Added: 1 Sep 2012
Find a Grave Memorial 96383594.6
; Per Med Lands: "THIETMAR [III] ([925/30]-3 Aug after 979, bur Kloster Nienburg an der Saale). The Annalista Saxo records "Thietmarum marchionem et Geronem Coloniensem archiepiscopum" as sons of "Soror eorum [Gero marchiorum et Sigefridus] Hidda nominee", and their joint construction of an abbey "in predio suo [Hidda] iuxta Salam fluvium"[63]. His birth date range is estimated from his first mention as count in 951. Graf im Gau Serimunt 951: "Otto…rex" confirmed the donation by his son Liudolf of property "in pago Serimunt in comitatu Thetmari comitis" on the intervention of "marchionis Geronis" to the church of Magdeburg by charter dated 28 Jul 951[64]. Graf im Schwabengau 951/978. "Otto…imperator augustus" granted property "in pago Derlingon in comitatu Thiatmari comitis" to Magdeburg St Moritz by undated charter, placed in the compilation with other charters dated mid-965[65]. "Otto…imperator augustus" gave property "in villa Drogobuli quæ Salam et Fonam fluvios interiacet in comitatu eiusdem comitis Thietmari" to "comiti nostro Thietmaro" by charter dated 29 Nov 965[66]. "Otto…imperator augustus" donated property "in pago Hardegouue et in comitatu Thiatmari" to Magdeburg St Moritz by charter dated 23 Sep 967[67]. Graf der Mark Merseburg und der Mark Meissen [Ostmark] 976. Markgraf. The death and place of burial of "Thietmarus marchio frater Geronis Coloniensis archiepiscopi" is recorded in the Annalista Saxo[68]. The necrology of Lüneburg records the death "3 Aug" of "Thietmarus marchio"[69]. m as her first husband, SCHWANEHILDE [Suanhild], daughter of HERMANN Billung Duke in Saxony & his [first/second] wife --- ([945/50]-26 Nov 1014, bur Kloster Jena, transferred 1028 to Naumburg Georgskirche). The Annalista Saxo records "filiam Herimanni ducis nominee Suanehildam" as wife of "Thietmarus marchio frater Geronis Coloniensis archiepiscopi", and in another passage that "domna Suanehildis" was daughter of "Herimanni ducis de Liuniburh", naming her five brothers and two husbands[70]. Her birth date range is estimated on the basis of her sister being born in [942] and Schwanehilde herself giving birth to seven children by her second husband. She married secondly Ekkehard I Markgraf von Meissen. Thietmar records the marriage of Ekkehard and "Swanhild widow of Count Thietmar and Duke Bernhard's sister"[71]. Thietmar records the death of Suanhild 26 Nov 1014[72]."
Med Lands cites:
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Genealogics:
"Thietmar was born about 925, the eldest of three sons of Christian, Graf von Thüringen, and his wife Hidda, the sister of Margrave Gero I 'the Great'. His brothers were Gero, archbishop of Cologne, and Odo I, margrave of the Saxon Ostmark.
"In 951 he was first recorded as count of Gau Serimunt, following his father Christian. Between 951 and 978 he was also count of Schwabengau. After the death of his uncle Gero 'the Great' in 965, Thietmar inherited large parts of his _Marca Geronis,_ the vast territory carved out by him.
"He married Schwanhild/Suanehild von Sachsen, daughter of Hermann Billung, Herzog von Sachsen. They had a son Gero II, who would have progeny and in 993 would become margrave of the Saxon Eastern March.
"On 29 August 970 Thietmar and his brother Gero founded the Abbey of Thankmarsfelde, which between 971 and 975 became a royal monastery. It was moved to Nienburg on the Saale River at the mouth of the Bode in 975 and that is where Thietmar is buried. In the years which followed, Thietmar and Gero made further donations of land to the monastery.
"Thietmar died on 3 August 979, and was succeeded by Rikdag. Thietmar's widow Schwanhild married Rikdag's successor Ekkehard I."
[See Note Per Med Lands]4 Thietmar III (?) Graf der Mark Merseburg und der Mark Meissen, Graf von Thüringen was also known as Dietmar I (?) Margrave of the Saxon Ostmark. GAV-31 EDV-32.
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Her 1st husband.5,1,4 Thietmar III (?) Graf der Mark Merseburg und der Mark Meissen, Graf von Thüringen was born between 925 and 930.1
Thietmar III (?) Graf der Mark Merseburg und der Mark Meissen, Graf von Thüringen died after 3 August 979.1
Thietmar III (?) Graf der Mark Merseburg und der Mark Meissen, Graf von Thüringen was buried after 3 August 979 at Kloster Nienburg an der Saale, Nienburg/Saale, Salzlandkreis, Sachsen-Anhalt, Germany; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH unknown, Meissen, Landkreis Meißen, Saxony (Sachsen), Germany
DEATH unknown
Thietmar born about 925 and died August 3, 979 was the Margrave of Meissen from 970 until his death. Thietmar was the eldest of three brothers, all sons of Hidda, sister of Gero the Great, and Count Christian of Thuringia. His brothers were Gero, Archbishop of Cologne, and Odo I, Margrave of the Saxon Ostmark.
In 951, he was first recorded as Count of Gau Serimunt, following his father Christian. Between 951 and 978, he was also Count of Schwabengau. After the death of his uncle Gero in 965, Thietmar inherited large parts of whose Marca Geronis. He married Schwanehilde (Suanhild), daughter of Margrave Hermann Billung, and had one son: Gero II, who in 993 would become Margrave of the Saxon Eastern March. On August 29, 970, Thietmar and his brother Gero founded the abbey of Thankmarsfelde. It was moved to Nienburg on the Saale river at the mouth of the Bode in 975 and that is where Thietmar is buried. Thietmar was succeeded by Rikdag. His widow Suanhilde married Rikdag's successor Eckard I.
Family Members
Spouse
Suanhilde Billung unknown–1014
Children
Gero II of the Saxon Ostmark unknown–1015
BURIAL Kloster Nienburg, Nienburg/Saale, Salzlandkreis, Sachsen-Anhalt, Germany
Created by: Kat
Added: 1 Sep 2012
Find a Grave Memorial 96383594.6
; Per Med Lands: "THIETMAR [III] ([925/30]-3 Aug after 979, bur Kloster Nienburg an der Saale). The Annalista Saxo records "Thietmarum marchionem et Geronem Coloniensem archiepiscopum" as sons of "Soror eorum [Gero marchiorum et Sigefridus] Hidda nominee", and their joint construction of an abbey "in predio suo [Hidda] iuxta Salam fluvium"[63]. His birth date range is estimated from his first mention as count in 951. Graf im Gau Serimunt 951: "Otto…rex" confirmed the donation by his son Liudolf of property "in pago Serimunt in comitatu Thetmari comitis" on the intervention of "marchionis Geronis" to the church of Magdeburg by charter dated 28 Jul 951[64]. Graf im Schwabengau 951/978. "Otto…imperator augustus" granted property "in pago Derlingon in comitatu Thiatmari comitis" to Magdeburg St Moritz by undated charter, placed in the compilation with other charters dated mid-965[65]. "Otto…imperator augustus" gave property "in villa Drogobuli quæ Salam et Fonam fluvios interiacet in comitatu eiusdem comitis Thietmari" to "comiti nostro Thietmaro" by charter dated 29 Nov 965[66]. "Otto…imperator augustus" donated property "in pago Hardegouue et in comitatu Thiatmari" to Magdeburg St Moritz by charter dated 23 Sep 967[67]. Graf der Mark Merseburg und der Mark Meissen [Ostmark] 976. Markgraf. The death and place of burial of "Thietmarus marchio frater Geronis Coloniensis archiepiscopi" is recorded in the Annalista Saxo[68]. The necrology of Lüneburg records the death "3 Aug" of "Thietmarus marchio"[69]. m as her first husband, SCHWANEHILDE [Suanhild], daughter of HERMANN Billung Duke in Saxony & his [first/second] wife --- ([945/50]-26 Nov 1014, bur Kloster Jena, transferred 1028 to Naumburg Georgskirche). The Annalista Saxo records "filiam Herimanni ducis nominee Suanehildam" as wife of "Thietmarus marchio frater Geronis Coloniensis archiepiscopi", and in another passage that "domna Suanehildis" was daughter of "Herimanni ducis de Liuniburh", naming her five brothers and two husbands[70]. Her birth date range is estimated on the basis of her sister being born in [942] and Schwanehilde herself giving birth to seven children by her second husband. She married secondly Ekkehard I Markgraf von Meissen. Thietmar records the marriage of Ekkehard and "Swanhild widow of Count Thietmar and Duke Bernhard's sister"[71]. Thietmar records the death of Suanhild 26 Nov 1014[72]."
Med Lands cites:
[63] Annalista Saxo 965.
[64] D O I 134, p. 214.
[65] D O I 305, p. 420.
[66] D O I 311, p. 425.
[67] D O I 345, p. 471.
[68] Annalista Saxo 978.
[69] Althoff, G. (ed.) (1983) Die Totenbücher von Merseburg, Magdeburg und Lüneburg (Hannover), Lüneburg.
[70] Annalista Saxo 978 and 1002.
[71] Thietmar 4.39, p. 179.
[72] Thietmar 7.7, p. 312.1
[64] D O I 134, p. 214.
[65] D O I 305, p. 420.
[66] D O I 311, p. 425.
[67] D O I 345, p. 471.
[68] Annalista Saxo 978.
[69] Althoff, G. (ed.) (1983) Die Totenbücher von Merseburg, Magdeburg und Lüneburg (Hannover), Lüneburg.
[70] Annalista Saxo 978 and 1002.
[71] Thietmar 4.39, p. 179.
[72] Thietmar 7.7, p. 312.1
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, Band I, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. Page 10.
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 1.1:143.4
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 1.1:143.4
; Per Genealogics:
"Thietmar was born about 925, the eldest of three sons of Christian, Graf von Thüringen, and his wife Hidda, the sister of Margrave Gero I 'the Great'. His brothers were Gero, archbishop of Cologne, and Odo I, margrave of the Saxon Ostmark.
"In 951 he was first recorded as count of Gau Serimunt, following his father Christian. Between 951 and 978 he was also count of Schwabengau. After the death of his uncle Gero 'the Great' in 965, Thietmar inherited large parts of his _Marca Geronis,_ the vast territory carved out by him.
"He married Schwanhild/Suanehild von Sachsen, daughter of Hermann Billung, Herzog von Sachsen. They had a son Gero II, who would have progeny and in 993 would become margrave of the Saxon Eastern March.
"On 29 August 970 Thietmar and his brother Gero founded the Abbey of Thankmarsfelde, which between 971 and 975 became a royal monastery. It was moved to Nienburg on the Saale River at the mouth of the Bode in 975 and that is where Thietmar is buried. In the years which followed, Thietmar and Gero made further donations of land to the monastery.
"Thietmar died on 3 August 979, and was succeeded by Rikdag. Thietmar's widow Schwanhild married Rikdag's successor Ekkehard I."
[See Note Per Med Lands]4 Thietmar III (?) Graf der Mark Merseburg und der Mark Meissen, Graf von Thüringen was also known as Dietmar I (?) Margrave of the Saxon Ostmark. GAV-31 EDV-32.
Family | Schwanhild|Suanehild (?) von Saxony b. c 941, d. 24 Nov 1014 |
Child |
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Citations
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#Suanhildedied1014. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Christian: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00572308&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#Thietmardied932
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thietmar: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00422387&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Schwanhild|Suanehild of Saxony: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00422386&tree=LEO
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 08 April 2020), memorial page for Thietmar of Meissen (unknown–unknown), Find a Grave Memorial no. 96383594, citing Kloster Nienburg, Nienburg/Saale, Salzlandkreis, Sachsen-Anhalt, Germany ; Maintained by Kat (contributor 47496397), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/96383594/thietmar-of_meissen. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MEISSEN.htm#ThietmarIdiedafter979
Thibaut V "le Bon" de Blois comte de Blois, Dunois et Chartres1,2,3
M, #20027, b. circa 1127, d. 20 January 1191
Father | Thibaud (Theobald) IV «Le Grand» ou « Le Vieux» de Blois comte de Blois, Chartres, Meaux et Troyes, comte de Champagne1,4,5,2,6 b. bt 1090 - 1095, d. 8 Oct 1152 |
Mother | Mathilde (Maud) (?) von Sponheim, of Carinthia1,7,5,8,2,6 b. c 1105, d. 13 Dec 1160 |
Reference | EDV25 |
Last Edited | 6 Nov 2020 |
Thibaut V "le Bon" de Blois comte de Blois, Dunois et Chartres was born circa 1127.1,7,3 He married Sibylle de Château-Renault
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His 1st wife; her 2nd husband.1,7,2,6,9 Thibaut V "le Bon" de Blois comte de Blois, Dunois et Chartres married Adela/Alix Capet (?) of France, daughter of Louis VII "the Young/le Jeune" (?) King of France and Eleanor (Eleonore) (?) Duchess of Aquitaine, Countess of Poitou, circa 1164
; his 2nd wife.10,1,7,2,6
Thibaut V "le Bon" de Blois comte de Blois, Dunois et Chartres died on 20 January 1191 at Siege of Acre, Acre, HaTzafon (Northern District), Palestine (Israel now); died of disease.1,7,2
Thibaut V "le Bon" de Blois comte de Blois, Dunois et Chartres was buried after 20 January 1191 ; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 1130
DEATH 20 Jan 1191 (aged 60–61)
Count of Blois. He was married twice and was father of seven children. Died during the siege of Acre.
Family Members
Parents
Thibaut II de Champagne 1090–1152
Mathilde of Carinthia-Sponheim 1108–1161
Spouse
Alix Capet 1150 – unknown
Siblings
Henry I de Champagne 1127–1181
Marie de Blois 1128–1190
Guillaume de Blois 1135–1202
Adèle de Blois-Champagne 1140–1206
Children
Marguerite de Blois 1169–1230
BURIAL Abbey of Pontigny, Pontigny, Departement de l'Yonne, Bourgogne, France
Created by: Lutetia
Added: 14 Feb 2010
Find a Grave Memorial 48109561.11
; Per Genealogics:
"Thibaut, known as Thibaut 'le Bon', was count of Blois from 1151 to 1191. He was the son of Thibaut IV-II, comte de Blois et Chartres, comte de Champagne, and Mathilde von Kärnten. Although he was the second son, Thibaud inherited Blois (including Chartres), while his elder brother Henri inherited the more important country of Champagne.
"Thibaut first married Sibylle de Château-Renaud, which made him lord of Châteaurenault. The marriage did not result in progeny. About 1164 he married Alice de France, daughter of Louis VII, king of France, and his first wife Eleanor de Poitou, duchesse d'Aquitaine. Of their seven children Louis, Marguerite and Isabelle would have progeny. Isabelle was left the county of Chartres (alienated from Blois) and the lordship of Châteaurenault by her nephew Thibaut VI, son of her brother Louis I.
"Thibault V and Alice had a happy marriage. His sister Alix de Blois, wife of King Louis VII, later regent for her son Philippe II, described them as 'a good, amiable couple'. Thibault lived primarily in Chartres and had its city walls renovated. After joining his brother Henri and number of other nobles in opposing the young king Philippe II August, he reconciled with the king and supported him on the Third Crusade. He arrived in the Holy Land in the summer of 1190, and died on 20 January 1191 in the siege of Acre."2
; Per Genealogy.EU: "F2. Thibaut V "le Bon", Cte de Blois et de Chartres, *ca 1130, +Acre 1191; 1m: Sibylle de Châteaurenard; 2m: 1164 Adela-Alix of France (*1151, +after 1195); all kids were by 2m."1
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Wikipédia (Fr.):
"Thibaut V de Blois, dit le Bon (1130 † 1191, fut comte de Blois, de Châteaudun et de Chartres de 1152 à 1191. Il était fils puîné de Thibaut IV le Grand, comte de Champagne, de Blois et de Chartres, et de Mathilde de Carinthie.
Origine
"La famille de Blois était alors puissante : un oncle, Etienne, avait été roi d'Angleterre de 1135 à 1154, un autre oncle, Henri, fut évêque de Winchester en 1129 puis légat du pape pour l'Angleterre en 1138, une sœur, Adèle, reine de France ; quant aux trois frères de Thibaut, ils furent respectivement comte de Champagne (Henri), évêque de Chartres, archevêque de Sens et de Reims, cardinale et légat du pape (Guillaume) et seigneur de Sancerre (Étienne).
Biographie
"Son père, Thibaut IV, mourut le 10 ou le 12 janvier 1152 : les Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Eglise cathédrale de Chartres, Obituaire du xii siècle confirment que Thibaut V et sa mère, Mathilde, firent à cette occasion une donation pour le salut de son âme et que le comte fut enterré à Lagny.
"Thibaut V, devenu comte de Blois et de Chartres, suivit la politique paternelle des dernières années et fut fidèle au roi de France Louis VII, qui le nomma sénéchal de France. Il succéda à Raoul de Vermandois et fut le dernier à porter ce titre, ce qui ne l'empêcha pas, en 1159, de sceller un accord avec le roi Henri II d'Angleterre pour attaquer la région de Beauvais contre Louis VII. L'année suivante, il était de nouveau du parti du roi de France, aux côtés duquel il resta lors de la coalition de 1173 qui vit Louis VII s'allier aux enfants d'Henri II, Henri, Richard et Geoffroy, qui, encouragés par leur mère, s'étaient rebellés contre leur père.
"Après la mort de Louis VII, alors que le nouveau souverain, Philippe-Auguste, maintenait une excellente relation avec les fils d'Henri II d'Angleterre, notamment Henri et Geoffroy, Thibaut se joignit un temps à son frère aîné, Henri, et à Philippe Ier de Flandre, qui s'opposaient au jeune roi à propos du comté d'Artois et d'autre terres de Flandre qui faisaient partie de la dot de l'épouse de Philippe-Auguste, Isabelle de Hainaut mais à la mort d'Henri, Thibaut se rapprocha de son beau-frère et neveu par alliance, dont il devint, à compter de 1180, un fidèle soutien, de même que son frère, le cardinal Guillaume.
"Thibaut et Étienne accompagnèrent Philippe-Auguste à la troisième croisade. Thibaut arriva en Terre sainte à l'été 1190 et mourut le 20 janvier 1191, de la dysenterie, lors du siège d'Acre, de même que son frère, Étienne de Sancerre.
"Il est inhumé dans l'Abbaye de Pontigny.
"Thibaut vécut principalement à Chartres, dont il fit rénover les murs. Le 26 mai 1171 à Blois, il envoya au bûcher 31 hommes, femmes et enfants appartenant à la communauté juive de la ville, condamnés à mort pour crime rituel (1re attestation d'une condamnation à mort pour accusation de meurtre rituel)1,2.
Union et descendance
"Il avait épousé en premières noces Sibylle de Château-Renault, qui lui laissa ce fief mais dont il n'eut pas d'enfants, puis, en 1164, la capétienne Alix (1150 † 1195), fille de Louis VII, roi de France, et d'Aliénor d'Aquitaine. Cette dernière lui donnera sept enfants et assurera la régence du comté de Blois au départ de son mari à la croisade, puis, à la mort de celui-ci, au nom de leur fils mineur, Louis.
"Ils auront :
Notes et références
1. Histoire des Juifs de France [archive], Communauté Israélite de Strasbourg
2. Pierre-André Taguieff, La judéophobie des Modernes: des Lumières au jihad mondial [archive], 2008."12
; Per Wikipedia:
"Theobald V of Blois (1130 – 20 January 1191[1]), also known as Theobald the Good (French: Thibaut le Bon), was Count of Blois from 1151 to 1191.
Biography
"He was son of Theobald II of Champagne and Matilda of Carinthia.[2] Although he was the second son, Theobald inherited Blois (including Chartres), while his elder brother, Henry got the more important county of Champagne.
"He first married Sybil of Chateaurenault, which made him jure uxoris Lord of Chateaurenault. Next, in 1164, he married Alix of France, daughter of Louis VII of France and his first wife, Eleanor of Aquitaine.[3]
"According to medieval Jewish sources, in 1171 Theobald was responsible for orchestrating the first blood libel in continental Europe. His alleged Jewish mistress Pulcelina of Blois unsuccessfully attempted to prevent him.[4] As a result of a church-sponsored trial, 30 or 31 members of the Jewish community were burned at the stake.[5]
"Theobald lived primarily in Chartres and had its city walls renovated. After joining his brother Henry and a number of other nobles in opposing the young king Philip II, he reconciled with the king and supported him on the Third Crusade. He arrived in the summer of 1190 in the Holy Land and died on 20 January 1191, during the Siege of Acre.
Family
"Theobald and Alix had seven children:
External links
** Counts of Blois: http://www.francebalade.com/blois/ctblois.htm
References
1. Baha ad-Din ibn Shaddad, Vita Saladini 93 (p. 236). Cfr. Matthew Paris, s.a. 1191 (II, p. 370), Haymar Monachus, De Expugnatione Acconis (p. 38).
2. Thompson 2002, p. 95.
3. Crosby 2013, p. 95.
4.. Emily Taitz, Sondra Henry & Cheryl Tallan, The JPS Guide to Jewish Women: 600 B.C.E.to 1900 C.E., 2003
5. Nissan Mindel (16 June 2006). "The Martyrs of Blois - (circa 1171) - Jewish History". Kehot Publication Society. Retrieved 5 June 2013.
6. Pollock 2015, p. 135.
Sources
** Crosby, Everett U. (2013). The King's Bishops: The Politics of Patronage in England and Normandy, 1066-1216. Palgrave Macmillan.
** Thompson, Kathleen (2002). Power and Border Lordship in Medieval France: The County of the Perche, 1000-1226. The Boydell Press.
** Pollock, M.A. (2015). Scotland, England and France after the Loss of Normandy, 1204-1296. The Boydell Press."13 EDV-25.
; Per Med Lands:
"THIBAUT de Blois, son of THIBAUT IV Comte de Blois & his wife Mathilde von Sponheim [Carinthia] ([1130]-Acre 1191, bur Abbaye de Pontigny). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Henricum comitem Trecensem palatinum…Theobaldum comitem Blesenem qui tenuit Carnotum [et] Stephanum comitem de Sancerre…et Guillelmus" as the four sons of "comes Campanie Theobaldus"[305]. He succeeded his father in 1152 as THIBAUT V "le Bon" Comte de Blois et de Chartres. He was appointed Seneschal of France in 1154 by Louis VII King of France. "Theobaldus Blesensis comes, Francie senesscalus" donated property to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun with the consent of "Adelicia comitissa uxore mea, filiis quoque et filiabus meis Theobaldo et Ludovico atque Henrico, Margarita et Ysabella" by charter dated 1183[306]. "Theobaldus comes Blesensis, Francie senesscalus" donated property to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun with the consent of "Adelicia uxore mea…filiis meis Ludovico, Philippo et filiabus mei Margarita, Ysabella" by charter dated 1190[307]. Matthew Paris records the death at Acre in 1191 of "Theodbaldus Bloeensis comes, Stephanus frater eius comes"[308]. He died of disease at the siege of Acre[309].
"m firstly as her second husband, SIBYLLE de Château-Renard, widow of --- d’Anneau, daughter of ---. She is shown in Europäische Stammtafeln[310] as the first wife of Comte Thibaut V but the primary source on which this information is based has not yet been identified.
"m secondly (1164) ALIX de France, daughter of LOUIS VII King of France & his first wife Eléonore d’Aquitaine (1150-11 Sep after 1195). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mariam comitissam Trecensum et Aelidem comitissam Blesensem" as the two daughters of "regi Francie Ludovico" & his wife "Alienor Guilielmi filia comits Pictavorum et Aquitanie ducis"[311]. Her parentage is confirmed by Matthew Paris, who specifies that she was the younger sister and married the younger brother "Theodbaldus filius magni comitis Theodbaldi Flandrensis", although he does not give her name[312]. "Adelicia comitissa uxore mea…" consented to the donation by "Theobaldus Blesensis comes, Francie senesscalus" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 1183[313]. "Adelicia uxore mea…" consented to the donation by "Theobaldus comes Blesensis, Francie senesscalus" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 1190[314]. The necrology of Chartres cathedral records the death "III Id Sep" of "Adelicia…Blesensium comitissa", stating that "cuius filius…comes Blesensis Ludovicus" donated property for her soul[315]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU: "G2. [1m.] Alix de France, *1151, +after 1195; m.1164 Cte Thibaut IV de Blois (*ca 1130 +1191.)14"
; Per Racines et Histoire (Blois-Champagne): "Thibaud V de Blois «Le Bon» ° ~1127/30 + 1191 (siège d’Acre, de maladie, croisé) comte de Blois, Dunois et Chartres (1152), nommé Sénéchal de France (1154) par le Roi Louis VII (cité dans des donations avec sa famille à l’Hôtel-Dieu de Châteaudun en 1183, 1190)
ép. 1) Sibylle de Châteaurenard (veuve de ? d’Anneau)
ép. 2) 1164 Alix (Adèle, Aelidis) de France ° 1150/51 + un 11/09 ~1195/97 (fille de Louis VII, Roi de France, et d’Aliénor d’Aquitaine.)2" He was comte de Blois, de Châteaudun et de Chartres between 1152 and 1191.12 He was Crusader in 1191.7
;
His 1st wife; her 2nd husband.1,7,2,6,9 Thibaut V "le Bon" de Blois comte de Blois, Dunois et Chartres married Adela/Alix Capet (?) of France, daughter of Louis VII "the Young/le Jeune" (?) King of France and Eleanor (Eleonore) (?) Duchess of Aquitaine, Countess of Poitou, circa 1164
; his 2nd wife.10,1,7,2,6
Thibaut V "le Bon" de Blois comte de Blois, Dunois et Chartres died on 20 January 1191 at Siege of Acre, Acre, HaTzafon (Northern District), Palestine (Israel now); died of disease.1,7,2
Thibaut V "le Bon" de Blois comte de Blois, Dunois et Chartres was buried after 20 January 1191 ; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 1130
DEATH 20 Jan 1191 (aged 60–61)
Count of Blois. He was married twice and was father of seven children. Died during the siege of Acre.
Family Members
Parents
Thibaut II de Champagne 1090–1152
Mathilde of Carinthia-Sponheim 1108–1161
Spouse
Alix Capet 1150 – unknown
Siblings
Henry I de Champagne 1127–1181
Marie de Blois 1128–1190
Guillaume de Blois 1135–1202
Adèle de Blois-Champagne 1140–1206
Children
Marguerite de Blois 1169–1230
BURIAL Abbey of Pontigny, Pontigny, Departement de l'Yonne, Bourgogne, France
Created by: Lutetia
Added: 14 Feb 2010
Find a Grave Memorial 48109561.11
; Per Genealogics:
"Thibaut, known as Thibaut 'le Bon', was count of Blois from 1151 to 1191. He was the son of Thibaut IV-II, comte de Blois et Chartres, comte de Champagne, and Mathilde von Kärnten. Although he was the second son, Thibaud inherited Blois (including Chartres), while his elder brother Henri inherited the more important country of Champagne.
"Thibaut first married Sibylle de Château-Renaud, which made him lord of Châteaurenault. The marriage did not result in progeny. About 1164 he married Alice de France, daughter of Louis VII, king of France, and his first wife Eleanor de Poitou, duchesse d'Aquitaine. Of their seven children Louis, Marguerite and Isabelle would have progeny. Isabelle was left the county of Chartres (alienated from Blois) and the lordship of Châteaurenault by her nephew Thibaut VI, son of her brother Louis I.
"Thibault V and Alice had a happy marriage. His sister Alix de Blois, wife of King Louis VII, later regent for her son Philippe II, described them as 'a good, amiable couple'. Thibault lived primarily in Chartres and had its city walls renovated. After joining his brother Henri and number of other nobles in opposing the young king Philippe II August, he reconciled with the king and supported him on the Third Crusade. He arrived in the Holy Land in the summer of 1190, and died on 20 January 1191 in the siege of Acre."2
; Per Genealogy.EU: "F2. Thibaut V "le Bon", Cte de Blois et de Chartres, *ca 1130, +Acre 1191; 1m: Sibylle de Châteaurenard; 2m: 1164 Adela-Alix of France (*1151, +after 1195); all kids were by 2m."1
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, Band II, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. page 42.
2. Biogr. details drawn from Wikipedia.2
2. Biogr. details drawn from Wikipedia.2
; Per Wikipédia (Fr.):
"Thibaut V de Blois, dit le Bon (1130 † 1191, fut comte de Blois, de Châteaudun et de Chartres de 1152 à 1191. Il était fils puîné de Thibaut IV le Grand, comte de Champagne, de Blois et de Chartres, et de Mathilde de Carinthie.
Origine
"La famille de Blois était alors puissante : un oncle, Etienne, avait été roi d'Angleterre de 1135 à 1154, un autre oncle, Henri, fut évêque de Winchester en 1129 puis légat du pape pour l'Angleterre en 1138, une sœur, Adèle, reine de France ; quant aux trois frères de Thibaut, ils furent respectivement comte de Champagne (Henri), évêque de Chartres, archevêque de Sens et de Reims, cardinale et légat du pape (Guillaume) et seigneur de Sancerre (Étienne).
Biographie
"Son père, Thibaut IV, mourut le 10 ou le 12 janvier 1152 : les Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Eglise cathédrale de Chartres, Obituaire du xii siècle confirment que Thibaut V et sa mère, Mathilde, firent à cette occasion une donation pour le salut de son âme et que le comte fut enterré à Lagny.
"Thibaut V, devenu comte de Blois et de Chartres, suivit la politique paternelle des dernières années et fut fidèle au roi de France Louis VII, qui le nomma sénéchal de France. Il succéda à Raoul de Vermandois et fut le dernier à porter ce titre, ce qui ne l'empêcha pas, en 1159, de sceller un accord avec le roi Henri II d'Angleterre pour attaquer la région de Beauvais contre Louis VII. L'année suivante, il était de nouveau du parti du roi de France, aux côtés duquel il resta lors de la coalition de 1173 qui vit Louis VII s'allier aux enfants d'Henri II, Henri, Richard et Geoffroy, qui, encouragés par leur mère, s'étaient rebellés contre leur père.
"Après la mort de Louis VII, alors que le nouveau souverain, Philippe-Auguste, maintenait une excellente relation avec les fils d'Henri II d'Angleterre, notamment Henri et Geoffroy, Thibaut se joignit un temps à son frère aîné, Henri, et à Philippe Ier de Flandre, qui s'opposaient au jeune roi à propos du comté d'Artois et d'autre terres de Flandre qui faisaient partie de la dot de l'épouse de Philippe-Auguste, Isabelle de Hainaut mais à la mort d'Henri, Thibaut se rapprocha de son beau-frère et neveu par alliance, dont il devint, à compter de 1180, un fidèle soutien, de même que son frère, le cardinal Guillaume.
"Thibaut et Étienne accompagnèrent Philippe-Auguste à la troisième croisade. Thibaut arriva en Terre sainte à l'été 1190 et mourut le 20 janvier 1191, de la dysenterie, lors du siège d'Acre, de même que son frère, Étienne de Sancerre.
"Il est inhumé dans l'Abbaye de Pontigny.
"Thibaut vécut principalement à Chartres, dont il fit rénover les murs. Le 26 mai 1171 à Blois, il envoya au bûcher 31 hommes, femmes et enfants appartenant à la communauté juive de la ville, condamnés à mort pour crime rituel (1re attestation d'une condamnation à mort pour accusation de meurtre rituel)1,2.
Union et descendance
"Il avait épousé en premières noces Sibylle de Château-Renault, qui lui laissa ce fief mais dont il n'eut pas d'enfants, puis, en 1164, la capétienne Alix (1150 † 1195), fille de Louis VII, roi de France, et d'Aliénor d'Aquitaine. Cette dernière lui donnera sept enfants et assurera la régence du comté de Blois au départ de son mari à la croisade, puis, à la mort de celui-ci, au nom de leur fils mineur, Louis.
"Ils auront :
1. Thibaut, mort jeune ;
2. Louis († 1205), comte de Blois, de Chartres et de Clermont, marié à Catherine de Clermont ;
3. Henri, mort jeune ;
4. Philippe, mort jeune ;
5. Marguerite (1170 † 1230), comtesse de Blois et de Châteaudun, mariée vers 1183 avec Hugues III d'Oisy, vicomte de Cambrai († 1189), puis vers 1190 avec Othon Ier, comte de Bourgogne († 1200), et enfin avec Gautier II d'Avesnes, seigneur de Guise († 1246) ;
6. Adélaide, abbesse de Fontevraud en 1227 ;
7. Isabelle († 1248), comtesse de Chartres et de Romorantin, mariée à Sulpice III d'Amboise, puis à Jean II de Montmirail, vicomte de Cambrai († 1244).
2. Louis († 1205), comte de Blois, de Chartres et de Clermont, marié à Catherine de Clermont ;
3. Henri, mort jeune ;
4. Philippe, mort jeune ;
5. Marguerite (1170 † 1230), comtesse de Blois et de Châteaudun, mariée vers 1183 avec Hugues III d'Oisy, vicomte de Cambrai († 1189), puis vers 1190 avec Othon Ier, comte de Bourgogne († 1200), et enfin avec Gautier II d'Avesnes, seigneur de Guise († 1246) ;
6. Adélaide, abbesse de Fontevraud en 1227 ;
7. Isabelle († 1248), comtesse de Chartres et de Romorantin, mariée à Sulpice III d'Amboise, puis à Jean II de Montmirail, vicomte de Cambrai († 1244).
Notes et références
1. Histoire des Juifs de France [archive], Communauté Israélite de Strasbourg
2. Pierre-André Taguieff, La judéophobie des Modernes: des Lumières au jihad mondial [archive], 2008."12
; Per Wikipedia:
"Theobald V of Blois (1130 – 20 January 1191[1]), also known as Theobald the Good (French: Thibaut le Bon), was Count of Blois from 1151 to 1191.
Biography
"He was son of Theobald II of Champagne and Matilda of Carinthia.[2] Although he was the second son, Theobald inherited Blois (including Chartres), while his elder brother, Henry got the more important county of Champagne.
"He first married Sybil of Chateaurenault, which made him jure uxoris Lord of Chateaurenault. Next, in 1164, he married Alix of France, daughter of Louis VII of France and his first wife, Eleanor of Aquitaine.[3]
"According to medieval Jewish sources, in 1171 Theobald was responsible for orchestrating the first blood libel in continental Europe. His alleged Jewish mistress Pulcelina of Blois unsuccessfully attempted to prevent him.[4] As a result of a church-sponsored trial, 30 or 31 members of the Jewish community were burned at the stake.[5]
"Theobald lived primarily in Chartres and had its city walls renovated. After joining his brother Henry and a number of other nobles in opposing the young king Philip II, he reconciled with the king and supported him on the Third Crusade. He arrived in the summer of 1190 in the Holy Land and died on 20 January 1191, during the Siege of Acre.
Family
"Theobald and Alix had seven children:
1. Theobald, d. young
2. Philip, d. young
3. Henry, d. young
4. Louis I of Blois (d. 1205)[2]
5. Alix, Abbess of Fontevrault
6. Margaret, married Walter of Avesnes, later Countess of Blois[6]
7. Isabella, married John II, lord of Oisy and Montreuil[6]
2. Philip, d. young
3. Henry, d. young
4. Louis I of Blois (d. 1205)[2]
5. Alix, Abbess of Fontevrault
6. Margaret, married Walter of Avesnes, later Countess of Blois[6]
7. Isabella, married John II, lord of Oisy and Montreuil[6]
External links
** Counts of Blois: http://www.francebalade.com/blois/ctblois.htm
References
1. Baha ad-Din ibn Shaddad, Vita Saladini 93 (p. 236). Cfr. Matthew Paris, s.a. 1191 (II, p. 370), Haymar Monachus, De Expugnatione Acconis (p. 38).
2. Thompson 2002, p. 95.
3. Crosby 2013, p. 95.
4.. Emily Taitz, Sondra Henry & Cheryl Tallan, The JPS Guide to Jewish Women: 600 B.C.E.to 1900 C.E., 2003
5. Nissan Mindel (16 June 2006). "The Martyrs of Blois - (circa 1171) - Jewish History". Kehot Publication Society. Retrieved 5 June 2013.
6. Pollock 2015, p. 135.
Sources
** Crosby, Everett U. (2013). The King's Bishops: The Politics of Patronage in England and Normandy, 1066-1216. Palgrave Macmillan.
** Thompson, Kathleen (2002). Power and Border Lordship in Medieval France: The County of the Perche, 1000-1226. The Boydell Press.
** Pollock, M.A. (2015). Scotland, England and France after the Loss of Normandy, 1204-1296. The Boydell Press."13 EDV-25.
; Per Med Lands:
"THIBAUT de Blois, son of THIBAUT IV Comte de Blois & his wife Mathilde von Sponheim [Carinthia] ([1130]-Acre 1191, bur Abbaye de Pontigny). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Henricum comitem Trecensem palatinum…Theobaldum comitem Blesenem qui tenuit Carnotum [et] Stephanum comitem de Sancerre…et Guillelmus" as the four sons of "comes Campanie Theobaldus"[305]. He succeeded his father in 1152 as THIBAUT V "le Bon" Comte de Blois et de Chartres. He was appointed Seneschal of France in 1154 by Louis VII King of France. "Theobaldus Blesensis comes, Francie senesscalus" donated property to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun with the consent of "Adelicia comitissa uxore mea, filiis quoque et filiabus meis Theobaldo et Ludovico atque Henrico, Margarita et Ysabella" by charter dated 1183[306]. "Theobaldus comes Blesensis, Francie senesscalus" donated property to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun with the consent of "Adelicia uxore mea…filiis meis Ludovico, Philippo et filiabus mei Margarita, Ysabella" by charter dated 1190[307]. Matthew Paris records the death at Acre in 1191 of "Theodbaldus Bloeensis comes, Stephanus frater eius comes"[308]. He died of disease at the siege of Acre[309].
"m firstly as her second husband, SIBYLLE de Château-Renard, widow of --- d’Anneau, daughter of ---. She is shown in Europäische Stammtafeln[310] as the first wife of Comte Thibaut V but the primary source on which this information is based has not yet been identified.
"m secondly (1164) ALIX de France, daughter of LOUIS VII King of France & his first wife Eléonore d’Aquitaine (1150-11 Sep after 1195). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mariam comitissam Trecensum et Aelidem comitissam Blesensem" as the two daughters of "regi Francie Ludovico" & his wife "Alienor Guilielmi filia comits Pictavorum et Aquitanie ducis"[311]. Her parentage is confirmed by Matthew Paris, who specifies that she was the younger sister and married the younger brother "Theodbaldus filius magni comitis Theodbaldi Flandrensis", although he does not give her name[312]. "Adelicia comitissa uxore mea…" consented to the donation by "Theobaldus Blesensis comes, Francie senesscalus" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 1183[313]. "Adelicia uxore mea…" consented to the donation by "Theobaldus comes Blesensis, Francie senesscalus" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 1190[314]. The necrology of Chartres cathedral records the death "III Id Sep" of "Adelicia…Blesensium comitissa", stating that "cuius filius…comes Blesensis Ludovicus" donated property for her soul[315]."
Med Lands cites:
[305] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1152, MGH SS XXIII, p. 841.
[306] Châeaudun Hôtel-Dieu XXV, p. 20.
[307] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu XXXII, p. 24.
[308] Matthew Paris Vol. II, 1191, p. 370.
[309] Haymar Monachus, De Expugnatione Acconis, p. 38, cited in Runciman Vol. 3, p. 32.
[310] ES II 47.
[311] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1152, MGH SS XXIII, p. 841.
[312] Matthew Paris, Vol. II, 1137, p. 166.
[313] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu XXV, p. 20.
[314] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu XXXII, p. 24.
[315] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Eglise cathédrale de Chartres, Obituaire du xii siècle, p. 93.6
[306] Châeaudun Hôtel-Dieu XXV, p. 20.
[307] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu XXXII, p. 24.
[308] Matthew Paris Vol. II, 1191, p. 370.
[309] Haymar Monachus, De Expugnatione Acconis, p. 38, cited in Runciman Vol. 3, p. 32.
[310] ES II 47.
[311] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1152, MGH SS XXIII, p. 841.
[312] Matthew Paris, Vol. II, 1137, p. 166.
[313] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu XXV, p. 20.
[314] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu XXXII, p. 24.
[315] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Eglise cathédrale de Chartres, Obituaire du xii siècle, p. 93.6
; Per Genealogy.EU: "G2. [1m.] Alix de France, *1151, +after 1195; m.1164 Cte Thibaut IV de Blois (*ca 1130 +1191.)14"
; Per Racines et Histoire (Blois-Champagne): "Thibaud V de Blois «Le Bon» ° ~1127/30 + 1191 (siège d’Acre, de maladie, croisé) comte de Blois, Dunois et Chartres (1152), nommé Sénéchal de France (1154) par le Roi Louis VII (cité dans des donations avec sa famille à l’Hôtel-Dieu de Châteaudun en 1183, 1190)
ép. 1) Sibylle de Châteaurenard (veuve de ? d’Anneau)
ép. 2) 1164 Alix (Adèle, Aelidis) de France ° 1150/51 + un 11/09 ~1195/97 (fille de Louis VII, Roi de France, et d’Aliénor d’Aquitaine.)2" He was comte de Blois, de Châteaudun et de Chartres between 1152 and 1191.12 He was Crusader in 1191.7
Family 1 | Sibylle de Château-Renault |
Family 2 | Adela/Alix Capet (?) of France b. bt 1150 - 1151, d. a 11 Sep 1195 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Blois 1 page ("THE HOUSE OF CHAMPAGNE-BLOIS"): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/blois/blois1.html#B2T1
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Blois & Chartres (Blois-Champagne), p. 7: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Blois-Champagne.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thibaut V: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013713&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thibaut IV-II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020141&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CENTRAL%20FRANCE.htm#ThibautIVdied1152B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CENTRAL%20FRANCE.htm#ThibautVdied1191B
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Blois-Champagne.pdf, p. 7.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde von Kärnten: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020142&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Sibylle: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013714&tree=LEO
- [S1217] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:1590432, Sue Cary (unknown location), downloaded updated 25 Aug 2001, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1590432&id=I02296
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 28 April 2020), memorial page for Thibaut V de Blois (1130–20 Jan 1191), Find a Grave Memorial no. 48109561, citing Abbey of Pontigny, Pontigny, Departement de l'Yonne, Bourgogne, France ; Maintained by Lutetia (contributor 46580078), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/48109561/thibaut_v-de_blois. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
- [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Thibaut V de Blois: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thibaut_V_de_Blois. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theobald_V,_Count_of_Blois. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Capet 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet4.html#CP1
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Blois 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/blois/blois1.html#H2
- [S1979] Douglas Richardson, "Mississippienne email 18 Oct 2005: "Grandchildren of Eleanor of Aquitaine"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 18 Oct 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Mississippienne email 18 Oct 2005."
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- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avesnes.pdf, p. 4.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Blois & Chartres (Blois-Champagne), p. 8: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Blois-Champagne.pdf
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- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marguerite de Blois: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013715&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CENTRAL%20FRANCE.htm#MargueriteCtssBloisdied1230
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Blois 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/blois/blois1.html#MT4
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Adela/Alix Capet (?) of France1,2
F, #20028, b. between 1150 and 1151, d. after 11 September 1195
Father | Louis VII "the Young/le Jeune" (?) King of France1,2,3,4,5,6 b. 1120, d. 18 Sep 1180 |
Mother | Eleanor (Eleonore) (?) Duchess of Aquitaine, Countess of Poitou7,2,5,6 b. c 1124, d. 31 Mar 1204 |
Last Edited | 8 Dec 2020 |
Adela/Alix Capet (?) of France was born between 1150 and 1151; Racines et Histoire (Blois-Champagne) says b. 1150/51. Genealogy.EU (Capet 4) says b. 1151; Genealogics says b. 1151; Med Lands says b. 1150.1,2,4,5 She married Thibaut V "le Bon" de Blois comte de Blois, Dunois et Chartres, son of Thibaud (Theobald) IV «Le Grand» ou « Le Vieux» de Blois comte de Blois, Chartres, Meaux et Troyes, comte de Champagne and Mathilde (Maud) (?) von Sponheim, of Carinthia, circa 1164
; his 2nd wife.8,9,2,10,11
Adela/Alix Capet (?) of France died after 11 September 1195.1,2,4,5
; Per Med Lands:
"THIBAUT de Blois, son of THIBAUT IV Comte de Blois & his wife Mathilde von Sponheim [Carinthia] ([1130]-Acre 1191, bur Abbaye de Pontigny). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Henricum comitem Trecensem palatinum…Theobaldum comitem Blesenem qui tenuit Carnotum [et] Stephanum comitem de Sancerre…et Guillelmus" as the four sons of "comes Campanie Theobaldus"[305]. He succeeded his father in 1152 as THIBAUT V "le Bon" Comte de Blois et de Chartres. He was appointed Seneschal of France in 1154 by Louis VII King of France. "Theobaldus Blesensis comes, Francie senesscalus" donated property to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun with the consent of "Adelicia comitissa uxore mea, filiis quoque et filiabus meis Theobaldo et Ludovico atque Henrico, Margarita et Ysabella" by charter dated 1183[306]. "Theobaldus comes Blesensis, Francie senesscalus" donated property to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun with the consent of "Adelicia uxore mea…filiis meis Ludovico, Philippo et filiabus mei Margarita, Ysabella" by charter dated 1190[307]. Matthew Paris records the death at Acre in 1191 of "Theodbaldus Bloeensis comes, Stephanus frater eius comes"[308]. He died of disease at the siege of Acre[309].
"m firstly as her second husband, SIBYLLE de Château-Renard, widow of --- d’Anneau, daughter of ---. She is shown in Europäische Stammtafeln[310] as the first wife of Comte Thibaut V but the primary source on which this information is based has not yet been identified.
"m secondly (1164) ALIX de France, daughter of LOUIS VII King of France & his first wife Eléonore d’Aquitaine (1150-11 Sep after 1195). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mariam comitissam Trecensum et Aelidem comitissam Blesensem" as the two daughters of "regi Francie Ludovico" & his wife "Alienor Guilielmi filia comits Pictavorum et Aquitanie ducis"[311]. Her parentage is confirmed by Matthew Paris, who specifies that she was the younger sister and married the younger brother "Theodbaldus filius magni comitis Theodbaldi Flandrensis", although he does not give her name[312]. "Adelicia comitissa uxore mea…" consented to the donation by "Theobaldus Blesensis comes, Francie senesscalus" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 1183[313]. "Adelicia uxore mea…" consented to the donation by "Theobaldus comes Blesensis, Francie senesscalus" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 1190[314]. The necrology of Chartres cathedral records the death "III Id Sep" of "Adelicia…Blesensium comitissa", stating that "cuius filius…comes Blesensis Ludovicus" donated property for her soul[315]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"ALIX de France (1150-11 Sep after 1195). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mariam comitissam Trecensum et Aelidem comitissam Blesensem" as the two daughters of "regi Francie Ludovico" and his wife "Alienor Guilielmi filia comits Pictavorum et Aquitanie ducis"[452]. Her parentage is confirmed by Matthew of Paris, who specifies that she was the younger sister and married the younger brother "Theodbaldus filius magni comitis Theodbaldi Flandrensis", although he does not give her name[453]. "Adelicia uxore mea…" consented to the donation by "Theobaldus comes Blesensis, Francie senesscalus" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 1190[454]. The necrology of Chartres cathedral records the death "III Id Sep" of "Adelicia…Blesensium comitissa", stating that "cuius filius…comes Blesensis Ludovicus" donated property for her soul[455].
"m (1164) as his second wife, THIBAUT V "le Bon" Comte de Blois et de Chartres, son of THIBAUT IV “le Grand” Comte de Blois, Comte de Troyes/Champagne & his wife Mathilde of Carinthia ([1130]-siege of Acre 1191, bur Abbaye de Pontigny). Seneschal of France 1154-1191. "
Med Lands cites:
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Genealogics:
"Alice or Alix was born in the summer of 1151, the second daughter of Louis VII, king of France, and his first wife Eleanor de Poitou, duchesse d'Aquitaine. She was named after her aunt Petronella de Poitou, who was also called 'Alix'. The birth of a second daughter to Eleanor and Louis instead of a badly needed son was one of the final nails in the coffin of their marriage. Her parents were soon divorced, although the princesses were declared legitimate, and the custody of the young Alice and her sister Marie was awarded to their father. Their mother Eleanor left the French court and married King Henry II of England. King Louis also remarried twice.
"About 1164 Alice became the second wife of Thibaut V, comte de Blois, son of Thibaut IV-II, comte de Blois et Chartres, comte de Champagne, and Mathilde von Kärnten. Her sister Marie married Thibaut's elder brother Henri. Alice served as regent when her husband left for the east, and since their son was underage, she continued as regent for several years after Thibaut's death in 1191. Alice and Thibaut had seven children of whom Louis, Marguerite and Isabelle/Elisabeth would have progeny.
"Alice died after 1195, probably in 1197 or 1198."4
; Per Wikipedia:
"Alix of France (July–August 1150 – 1197/1198) was countess consort of Blois by marriage to Theobald V, Count of Blois. She was regent of Blois during the absence of her spouse in 1190-1191, and regent during the minority of Louis I, Count of Blois from 1191 until 1197.
Life
"Alix was the second daughter born to King Louis VII of France and Duchess Eleanor of Aquitaine,[1] and was named after her aunt Petronilla of Aquitaine, who was also called "Alix". The birth of a second daughter to Eleanor and Louis instead of a badly needed son was one of the final nails in the coffin of their marriage. Her parents' marriage was annulled in 1152, barely a year after Alix's birth. She and her sister, Marie, were declared legitimate, and the custody of the two girls was awarded to their father. Eleanor soon after left the French court and married Henry II, Duke of Normandy, who later became King of England.
Countess of Blois
"In 1164, Alix married Theobald V, Count of Blois,[2] who had previously attempted to abduct Alix's mother to force her into a marriage with him. Her older sister, Marie, married Theobald's brother, Henry.
"Alix served as regent of Blois for seven years. When her husband left for the East in 1190, she was appointed regent to serve during his absence. When he died in 1191 and was succeeded by their minor son, Alix continued to serve as regent, this time during the minority of her son Louis I. She governed until 1197.
"Alix died in 1197/98.
Issue
"Alix and Theobald had seven children:
1. Theobald (d. 1182)
2. Louis I, Count of Blois,[2] who died in Constantinople in 1205
3. Henry (d. 1182)
4. Philip (d. 1202)
5. Margaret, Countess of Blois (d. aft. 1230), who married (1) Otto I, Count of Burgundy; (2) Gauthier II, Seigneur of Avesnes[2]
6. Isabella (1180–1247/1248), married (1) Sulpice of Amboise; (2) Jean de Montmirail[2]
7. Alix, Abbess of Fontevrault[2]."12 Adela/Alix Capet (?) of France was also known as Alice (?) de France.4 GKJ-24.
; Per Wikipédia (Fr.):
"Alix de France ou Adélaïde de France ou Aélis de Blois (1151 † 11 septembre 1198), fille du roi Louis VII de France (1120 - 1180) et de sa première épouse Aliénor d'Aquitaine (1122 - 1204)1, fut comtesse consort de Blois par son mariage avec Thibaut V de Blois. Elle fut régente du comté pendant l'absence de son époux en 1190-1191, ainsi que pendant la minorité de leur fils, Louis Ier, de 1191 à 1197.
Biographie
"Alix était la deuxième fille du roi Louis VII de France et de sa première femme, la duchesse Aliénor d'Aquitaine. Elle fut baptisée ainsi en hommage à sa tante maternelle Pétronille d'Aquitaine, dont le deuxième prénom était Alix et qui avait suivi Aliénor à la cour de France.
"La naissance d'une deuxième fille, au lieu du fils et héritier tant espéré, sonna le glas du mariage de Louis et Aliénor, déjà fragilisé : en 1147, le couple avait pris part à la deuxième croisade, qui devait se conclure par l'échec devant Damas en 1148, ce qui, joint à d'autres différends, contribua à éloigner les deux conjoins, qui regagnèrent la France séparément en 1149. Leur mariage fut annulé en 1152 pour consanguinité, un an à peine après la naissance d'Alix. Elle et sa sœur aînée Marie furent reconnues comme légitimes et la tutelle des deux jeunes princesses fut confiée à leur père. Aliénor quitta la cour peu après et épousa en secondes noces Henri II, duc de Normandie et futur roi d'Angleterre.
"Les différents remariages de ses deux parents firent d'Alix la demi-sœur du roi Philippe-Auguste de France mais aussi des rois d'Angleterre Richard Cœur de Lion et Jean Sans Terre.
Comtesse de Blois
"Après la séparation de ses parents, son père, Louis VII, épousa en 1154 Constance de Castille, qui mourut en 1160 en mettant au monde sa deuxième fille. Toujours en quête d'une descendance masculine susceptible de lui succéder, Louis VII se remaria la même année avec Adèle de Champagne1, promettant du même coup ses deux filles aux frères de sa nouvelle femme.
"En 1164, Alix épousa Thibaut V le Bon, comte de Blois et de Chartres1, veuf de Sibylle de Châteaurenault, qui avait autrefois tenté d'enlever sa mère, Aliénor, pour la forcer à l'épouser. Sa sœur aînée Marie épousa le frère aîné de Thibaut, Henri.
"Alix fut régente de Blois pendant sept ans. Lorsque son mari partit pour l'Orient pour la troisième croisade, en 1190, elle fut désignée pour gouverner en son absence. Lorsqu'il mourut de dysenterie en 1191 au siège d'Acre, aux côtés de son frère, Étienne de Sancerre, elle continua de gouverner au nom de son fils mineur, Louis, et ce, jusqu'en 1197, un an avant sa mort, survenue le 11 septembre 1198.
"Elle fut inhumée en la cathédrale Saint-Étienne de Meaux.
Descendance
"Thibaut et Alix auront sept enfants :
1. Thibaut, mort jeune ;
2. Louis, comte de Blois, de Chartres et de Clermont ;
3. Henri, mort jeune ;
4. Philippe, mort jeune ;
5. Marguerite (1170 † 1230), comtesse de Blois et de Châteaudun, mariée vers 1183 avec Hugues III d'Oisy, vicomte de Cambrai († 1189), puis vers 1190 avec Othon Ier, comte de Bourgogne († 1200)1, et enfin avec Gautier II d'Avesnes, seigneur de Guise († 1246) ;
6. Adélaïde, abbesse de Fontevraud en 1190 ;
7. Isabelle († 1248), comtesse de Chartres et de Romorantin, mariée à Sulpice d'Amboise, puis à Jean de Montmirail, vicomte de Cambrai († 1244).
Notes et références
** Jiri Louda et Michael MacLagan, Les Dynasties d'Europe, Bordas, 1995. (ISBN 2-04-027115-5.)13"
; Per Genealogy.EU: "G2. [1m.] Alix de France, *1151, +after 1195; m.1164 Cte Thibaut IV de Blois (*ca 1130 +1191.)1"
; Per Racines et Histoire (Blois-Champagne): "Thibaud V de Blois «Le Bon» ° ~1127/30 + 1191 (siège d’Acre, de maladie, croisé) comte de Blois, Dunois et Chartres (1152), nommé Sénéchal de France (1154) par le Roi Louis VII (cité dans des donations avec sa famille à l’Hôtel-Dieu de Châteaudun en 1183, 1190)
ép. 1) Sibylle de Châteaurenard (veuve de ? d’Anneau)
ép. 2) 1164 Alix (Adèle, Aelidis) de France ° 1150/51 + un 11/09 ~1195/97 (fille de Louis VII, Roi de France, et d’Aliénor d’Aquitaine.)10"
; his 2nd wife.8,9,2,10,11
Adela/Alix Capet (?) of France died after 11 September 1195.1,2,4,5
; Per Med Lands:
"THIBAUT de Blois, son of THIBAUT IV Comte de Blois & his wife Mathilde von Sponheim [Carinthia] ([1130]-Acre 1191, bur Abbaye de Pontigny). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Henricum comitem Trecensem palatinum…Theobaldum comitem Blesenem qui tenuit Carnotum [et] Stephanum comitem de Sancerre…et Guillelmus" as the four sons of "comes Campanie Theobaldus"[305]. He succeeded his father in 1152 as THIBAUT V "le Bon" Comte de Blois et de Chartres. He was appointed Seneschal of France in 1154 by Louis VII King of France. "Theobaldus Blesensis comes, Francie senesscalus" donated property to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun with the consent of "Adelicia comitissa uxore mea, filiis quoque et filiabus meis Theobaldo et Ludovico atque Henrico, Margarita et Ysabella" by charter dated 1183[306]. "Theobaldus comes Blesensis, Francie senesscalus" donated property to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun with the consent of "Adelicia uxore mea…filiis meis Ludovico, Philippo et filiabus mei Margarita, Ysabella" by charter dated 1190[307]. Matthew Paris records the death at Acre in 1191 of "Theodbaldus Bloeensis comes, Stephanus frater eius comes"[308]. He died of disease at the siege of Acre[309].
"m firstly as her second husband, SIBYLLE de Château-Renard, widow of --- d’Anneau, daughter of ---. She is shown in Europäische Stammtafeln[310] as the first wife of Comte Thibaut V but the primary source on which this information is based has not yet been identified.
"m secondly (1164) ALIX de France, daughter of LOUIS VII King of France & his first wife Eléonore d’Aquitaine (1150-11 Sep after 1195). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mariam comitissam Trecensum et Aelidem comitissam Blesensem" as the two daughters of "regi Francie Ludovico" & his wife "Alienor Guilielmi filia comits Pictavorum et Aquitanie ducis"[311]. Her parentage is confirmed by Matthew Paris, who specifies that she was the younger sister and married the younger brother "Theodbaldus filius magni comitis Theodbaldi Flandrensis", although he does not give her name[312]. "Adelicia comitissa uxore mea…" consented to the donation by "Theobaldus Blesensis comes, Francie senesscalus" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 1183[313]. "Adelicia uxore mea…" consented to the donation by "Theobaldus comes Blesensis, Francie senesscalus" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 1190[314]. The necrology of Chartres cathedral records the death "III Id Sep" of "Adelicia…Blesensium comitissa", stating that "cuius filius…comes Blesensis Ludovicus" donated property for her soul[315]."
Med Lands cites:
[305] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1152, MGH SS XXIII, p. 841.
[306] Châeaudun Hôtel-Dieu XXV, p. 20.
[307] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu XXXII, p. 24.
[308] Matthew Paris Vol. II, 1191, p. 370.
[309] Haymar Monachus, De Expugnatione Acconis, p. 38, cited in Runciman Vol. 3, p. 32.
[310] ES II 47.
[311] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1152, MGH SS XXIII, p. 841.
[312] Matthew Paris, Vol. II, 1137, p. 166.
[313] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu XXV, p. 20.
[314] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu XXXII, p. 24.
[315] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Eglise cathédrale de Chartres, Obituaire du xii siècle, p. 93.11
[306] Châeaudun Hôtel-Dieu XXV, p. 20.
[307] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu XXXII, p. 24.
[308] Matthew Paris Vol. II, 1191, p. 370.
[309] Haymar Monachus, De Expugnatione Acconis, p. 38, cited in Runciman Vol. 3, p. 32.
[310] ES II 47.
[311] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1152, MGH SS XXIII, p. 841.
[312] Matthew Paris, Vol. II, 1137, p. 166.
[313] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu XXV, p. 20.
[314] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu XXXII, p. 24.
[315] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Eglise cathédrale de Chartres, Obituaire du xii siècle, p. 93.11
; Per Med Lands:
"ALIX de France (1150-11 Sep after 1195). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Mariam comitissam Trecensum et Aelidem comitissam Blesensem" as the two daughters of "regi Francie Ludovico" and his wife "Alienor Guilielmi filia comits Pictavorum et Aquitanie ducis"[452]. Her parentage is confirmed by Matthew of Paris, who specifies that she was the younger sister and married the younger brother "Theodbaldus filius magni comitis Theodbaldi Flandrensis", although he does not give her name[453]. "Adelicia uxore mea…" consented to the donation by "Theobaldus comes Blesensis, Francie senesscalus" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 1190[454]. The necrology of Chartres cathedral records the death "III Id Sep" of "Adelicia…Blesensium comitissa", stating that "cuius filius…comes Blesensis Ludovicus" donated property for her soul[455].
"m (1164) as his second wife, THIBAUT V "le Bon" Comte de Blois et de Chartres, son of THIBAUT IV “le Grand” Comte de Blois, Comte de Troyes/Champagne & his wife Mathilde of Carinthia ([1130]-siege of Acre 1191, bur Abbaye de Pontigny). Seneschal of France 1154-1191. "
Med Lands cites:
[452] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1152, MGH SS XXIII, p. 841.
[453] Matthew Paris, Vol. II, 1137, p. 166.
[454] Belfort, A. de (ed.) (1881) Archives de la Maison-Dieu de Châteaudun (Paris, Châteaudun) (“Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu”) XXXII, p. 24.
[455] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Eglise cathédrale de Chartres, Obituaire du xii siècle, p. 93.5
[453] Matthew Paris, Vol. II, 1137, p. 166.
[454] Belfort, A. de (ed.) (1881) Archives de la Maison-Dieu de Châteaudun (Paris, Châteaudun) (“Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu”) XXXII, p. 24.
[455] Obituaires de Sens Tome II, Eglise cathédrale de Chartres, Obituaire du xii siècle, p. 93.5
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, Band II, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. page 14.
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 2:11
3. Biogr. details drawn from Wikipedia.4
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 2:11
3. Biogr. details drawn from Wikipedia.4
; Per Genealogics:
"Alice or Alix was born in the summer of 1151, the second daughter of Louis VII, king of France, and his first wife Eleanor de Poitou, duchesse d'Aquitaine. She was named after her aunt Petronella de Poitou, who was also called 'Alix'. The birth of a second daughter to Eleanor and Louis instead of a badly needed son was one of the final nails in the coffin of their marriage. Her parents were soon divorced, although the princesses were declared legitimate, and the custody of the young Alice and her sister Marie was awarded to their father. Their mother Eleanor left the French court and married King Henry II of England. King Louis also remarried twice.
"About 1164 Alice became the second wife of Thibaut V, comte de Blois, son of Thibaut IV-II, comte de Blois et Chartres, comte de Champagne, and Mathilde von Kärnten. Her sister Marie married Thibaut's elder brother Henri. Alice served as regent when her husband left for the east, and since their son was underage, she continued as regent for several years after Thibaut's death in 1191. Alice and Thibaut had seven children of whom Louis, Marguerite and Isabelle/Elisabeth would have progeny.
"Alice died after 1195, probably in 1197 or 1198."4
; Per Wikipedia:
"Alix of France (July–August 1150 – 1197/1198) was countess consort of Blois by marriage to Theobald V, Count of Blois. She was regent of Blois during the absence of her spouse in 1190-1191, and regent during the minority of Louis I, Count of Blois from 1191 until 1197.
Life
"Alix was the second daughter born to King Louis VII of France and Duchess Eleanor of Aquitaine,[1] and was named after her aunt Petronilla of Aquitaine, who was also called "Alix". The birth of a second daughter to Eleanor and Louis instead of a badly needed son was one of the final nails in the coffin of their marriage. Her parents' marriage was annulled in 1152, barely a year after Alix's birth. She and her sister, Marie, were declared legitimate, and the custody of the two girls was awarded to their father. Eleanor soon after left the French court and married Henry II, Duke of Normandy, who later became King of England.
Countess of Blois
"In 1164, Alix married Theobald V, Count of Blois,[2] who had previously attempted to abduct Alix's mother to force her into a marriage with him. Her older sister, Marie, married Theobald's brother, Henry.
"Alix served as regent of Blois for seven years. When her husband left for the East in 1190, she was appointed regent to serve during his absence. When he died in 1191 and was succeeded by their minor son, Alix continued to serve as regent, this time during the minority of her son Louis I. She governed until 1197.
"Alix died in 1197/98.
Issue
"Alix and Theobald had seven children:
1. Theobald (d. 1182)
2. Louis I, Count of Blois,[2] who died in Constantinople in 1205
3. Henry (d. 1182)
4. Philip (d. 1202)
5. Margaret, Countess of Blois (d. aft. 1230), who married (1) Otto I, Count of Burgundy; (2) Gauthier II, Seigneur of Avesnes[2]
6. Isabella (1180–1247/1248), married (1) Sulpice of Amboise; (2) Jean de Montmirail[2]
7. Alix, Abbess of Fontevrault[2]."12 Adela/Alix Capet (?) of France was also known as Alice (?) de France.4 GKJ-24.
; Per Wikipédia (Fr.):
"Alix de France ou Adélaïde de France ou Aélis de Blois (1151 † 11 septembre 1198), fille du roi Louis VII de France (1120 - 1180) et de sa première épouse Aliénor d'Aquitaine (1122 - 1204)1, fut comtesse consort de Blois par son mariage avec Thibaut V de Blois. Elle fut régente du comté pendant l'absence de son époux en 1190-1191, ainsi que pendant la minorité de leur fils, Louis Ier, de 1191 à 1197.
Biographie
"Alix était la deuxième fille du roi Louis VII de France et de sa première femme, la duchesse Aliénor d'Aquitaine. Elle fut baptisée ainsi en hommage à sa tante maternelle Pétronille d'Aquitaine, dont le deuxième prénom était Alix et qui avait suivi Aliénor à la cour de France.
"La naissance d'une deuxième fille, au lieu du fils et héritier tant espéré, sonna le glas du mariage de Louis et Aliénor, déjà fragilisé : en 1147, le couple avait pris part à la deuxième croisade, qui devait se conclure par l'échec devant Damas en 1148, ce qui, joint à d'autres différends, contribua à éloigner les deux conjoins, qui regagnèrent la France séparément en 1149. Leur mariage fut annulé en 1152 pour consanguinité, un an à peine après la naissance d'Alix. Elle et sa sœur aînée Marie furent reconnues comme légitimes et la tutelle des deux jeunes princesses fut confiée à leur père. Aliénor quitta la cour peu après et épousa en secondes noces Henri II, duc de Normandie et futur roi d'Angleterre.
"Les différents remariages de ses deux parents firent d'Alix la demi-sœur du roi Philippe-Auguste de France mais aussi des rois d'Angleterre Richard Cœur de Lion et Jean Sans Terre.
Comtesse de Blois
"Après la séparation de ses parents, son père, Louis VII, épousa en 1154 Constance de Castille, qui mourut en 1160 en mettant au monde sa deuxième fille. Toujours en quête d'une descendance masculine susceptible de lui succéder, Louis VII se remaria la même année avec Adèle de Champagne1, promettant du même coup ses deux filles aux frères de sa nouvelle femme.
"En 1164, Alix épousa Thibaut V le Bon, comte de Blois et de Chartres1, veuf de Sibylle de Châteaurenault, qui avait autrefois tenté d'enlever sa mère, Aliénor, pour la forcer à l'épouser. Sa sœur aînée Marie épousa le frère aîné de Thibaut, Henri.
"Alix fut régente de Blois pendant sept ans. Lorsque son mari partit pour l'Orient pour la troisième croisade, en 1190, elle fut désignée pour gouverner en son absence. Lorsqu'il mourut de dysenterie en 1191 au siège d'Acre, aux côtés de son frère, Étienne de Sancerre, elle continua de gouverner au nom de son fils mineur, Louis, et ce, jusqu'en 1197, un an avant sa mort, survenue le 11 septembre 1198.
"Elle fut inhumée en la cathédrale Saint-Étienne de Meaux.
Descendance
"Thibaut et Alix auront sept enfants :
1. Thibaut, mort jeune ;
2. Louis, comte de Blois, de Chartres et de Clermont ;
3. Henri, mort jeune ;
4. Philippe, mort jeune ;
5. Marguerite (1170 † 1230), comtesse de Blois et de Châteaudun, mariée vers 1183 avec Hugues III d'Oisy, vicomte de Cambrai († 1189), puis vers 1190 avec Othon Ier, comte de Bourgogne († 1200)1, et enfin avec Gautier II d'Avesnes, seigneur de Guise († 1246) ;
6. Adélaïde, abbesse de Fontevraud en 1190 ;
7. Isabelle († 1248), comtesse de Chartres et de Romorantin, mariée à Sulpice d'Amboise, puis à Jean de Montmirail, vicomte de Cambrai († 1244).
Notes et références
** Jiri Louda et Michael MacLagan, Les Dynasties d'Europe, Bordas, 1995. (ISBN 2-04-027115-5.)13"
; Per Genealogy.EU: "G2. [1m.] Alix de France, *1151, +after 1195; m.1164 Cte Thibaut IV de Blois (*ca 1130 +1191.)1"
; Per Racines et Histoire (Blois-Champagne): "Thibaud V de Blois «Le Bon» ° ~1127/30 + 1191 (siège d’Acre, de maladie, croisé) comte de Blois, Dunois et Chartres (1152), nommé Sénéchal de France (1154) par le Roi Louis VII (cité dans des donations avec sa famille à l’Hôtel-Dieu de Châteaudun en 1183, 1190)
ép. 1) Sibylle de Châteaurenard (veuve de ? d’Anneau)
ép. 2) 1164 Alix (Adèle, Aelidis) de France ° 1150/51 + un 11/09 ~1195/97 (fille de Louis VII, Roi de France, et d’Aliénor d’Aquitaine.)10"
Family | Thibaut V "le Bon" de Blois comte de Blois, Dunois et Chartres b. c 1127, d. 20 Jan 1191 |
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Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet4.html#CP1
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- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Louis VII: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00000211&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
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Marguerite de Blois Comtesse de Blois et de Châteaudun, co-comtesse de Chartres1,2,3,4,5,6,7
F, #20029, b. circa 1170, d. 12 July 1230
Father | Thibaut V "le Bon" de Blois comte de Blois, Dunois et Chartres2,8,4,9,10,5,6,11 b. c 1127, d. 20 Jan 1191 |
Mother | Adela/Alix Capet (?) of France4,12,10,5,6,11,8 b. bt 1150 - 1151, d. a 11 Sep 1195 |
Reference | EDV24 |
Last Edited | 6 Nov 2020 |
Marguerite de Blois Comtesse de Blois et de Châteaudun, co-comtesse de Chartres was born circa 1170.11,13,6,8 She married Hugues III d'Oisy vicomte (châtelain) de Cambrai, son of Simon (?) Sire d'Oisy, Chatelain de Cambrai and Ada (?) de La Ferté-Ancoul (sous-Jouarre), vicomtesse de Meaux, circa 1183
;
Her 1st husband; his 2nd wife.2,14,15,6,11,8 Marguerite de Blois Comtesse de Blois et de Châteaudun, co-comtesse de Chartres married Otto II von Hohenstaufen Count Palatine, Pgv. de Bourgogne, son of Friedrich I "Barbarossa" (?) King of Germany, Holy Roman Emperor and Beatrix de Bourgogne Css Palatine de Bourgogne, circa 1190
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Her 2nd husband.
Genealogy.EU (Hohenstaufen page) says m. 1190; Leo van de Pas says m. 1191; Louda & Maclagan (Table 90) says m. 1192; Med Lands says m. 1190.16,17,2,4,5,6,11,8,18,19 Marguerite de Blois Comtesse de Blois et de Châteaudun, co-comtesse de Chartres married Gauthier/Wautier II d'Avesnes Seigneur d’Avesnes, Condé, Leuze, Landrecies, Guise et Trélon, comte de Blois et Guise, son of Jacques (?) seigneur d'Avesnes, Leuse, Conde and Guise and Adelvie/Ameline (?) de Guise, after 1200
; Her 3rd husband.20,2,4,21,22,13,5,6,11,8
Marguerite de Blois Comtesse de Blois et de Châteaudun, co-comtesse de Chartres died on 12 July 1230; Mississippienne says d. aft 1230; Louda & Maclagan says d. 1231; Genealogics says d. 7 May 1231; Med Lands says d. 12 Julv 1230; Genealopgy.EU (Blois 1) says d. 12 Julv 1230; Racines et Histoire says d. 12 July 1230.20,13,16,5,6,11,8
Marguerite de Blois Comtesse de Blois et de Châteaudun, co-comtesse de Chartres was buried after 12 July 1230 at Cathédrale Saint-Jean de Besançon, Besançon, Departement du Doubs, Franche-Comté, France; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 1169
DEATH 12 Jul 1230 (aged 60–61), Besancon, Departement du Doubs, Franche-Comté, France
French Nobility. She was the oldest daughter of Thibaut V, Count of Blois and Chartres and his second wife Alix de France, a daughter of Eleanor of Aquitaine from her first marriage. In 1183 she married Hugh III de Oisy who died in 1189. A year after his death she married Otto von Hohenstaufen, Count Palatine of Burgundy and gave birth to two daughters. Jeanne succeeded her father in 1200 but died only five years after him and was succeeded by her sister Beatrice. During their daughters minority she acted as regent for them in Burgundy until Beatrix married Otto of Andechs-Meran who took over from her. She married a third time Gautier II de Avesnes and gave birth to three children. Thibaut died young, Isabelle married Jean de Oisy and Marie, as her parents heir, married Hugo I. de Châtillon. After the death of her nephew Thibaut VI in 1218 she became Countess of Blois and Chateaudun. By her daughter Beatrix she is great-grandmother of Elisabeth of Orlamünde and Othon V de Salins. She was first buried at St Etienne and was moved to St Jean in 1674. Bio by: Lutetia
Family Members
Parents
Thibaut V de Blois 1130–1191
Spouse
Otto von Hohenstaufen 1167–1200
Children
Jeanne de Bourgogne 1191–1208
Beatrix II de Bourgogne 1193–1231
Marie de Avesnes 1200–1241
BURIAL Cathédrale Saint-Jean de Besançon, Besancon, Departement du Doubs, Franche-Comté, France
Maintained by: Find a Grave
Originally Created by: Lutetia
Added: 18 Apr 2006
Find a Grave Memorial 13988680.23
EDV-24.
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; This is the same person as ”Margaret, Countess of Blois” at Wikipedia and as ”Marguerite de Blois” at Wikipédia (FR).24,7
; Per Genealogy.EU (Blois 1): “G5. Marguerite, Cts de Blois et de Châteaudun, *ca 1170, +12.7.1230; 1m: ca 1183 Hugues III d'Oisy, Vcte de Cambrai (+1189/90); 2m: ca 1190 Otto von Hohenstaufen, Ct Palatine of Burgundy (+1200); 3m: after 1200 Gautier II d'Avesnes, Cte de Blois, de Guise, etc (+ca 1246)”.25
; Per Racines et Histoire (Blois-Chartres): “2) Marguerite de Blois ° ~1170 + 12/07/1230 comtesse de Blois et de Châteaudun (1218, succède à son neveu) (citée dans une charte de confirmation d’agrément avec Saint-Martin-des-Champs en 06-08/1208 ; souscrit une donation de son frère Louis à l’Abbaye de L’Etoile en1190 et une autre, du même, à l’Hôtel-Dieu de Châteaudun le 27/01/1196 ; & d’autres actes en 03/1200 & 05/1202)
ép. 1) 1183 ou ~1189 Hugues III d’Oisy, vicomte (Châtelain) de Cambrai + 29/08/1189 (fils de Simon d’Oisy, châtelain de Cambrai, et d’Ade de La Ferté-Ancoul (sous-Jouarre))
ép. 2) ~1190/92 Otto von (Hohen)Stauffen, comte Palatin de Bourgogne ° 06-07/1170 + 13/01/1200 (Besançon) (fils de l’Empereur Friedrich 1er «Barbarossa», Roi de Germanie, et de Béatrix, comtesse Palatine de Bourgogne
ép. 3) après 1200 Gautier (Wautier) II d’Avesnes, seigneur d’Avesnes, comte de Blois”.8
; Per Med Lands:
"MARGUERITE ([1170]-12 Jul 1230). "…Filiis quoque et filiabus meis Theobaldo et Ludovico atque Henrico, Margarita et Ysabella" consented to the donation by "Theobaldus Blesensis comes, Francie senesscalus" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 1183[317]. "Hugo vicecomes Meldensis" donated property to Cavea monastery, with the consent of "domina Margarete uxore mea", by charter dated to [1185][318]. Her first marriage is confirmed by the charter dated [Jun/Aug] 1208 under which "Margareta uxor Galterii de Averna comitissa palatina Burgundie" confirmed an agreement between "Willelmum militem de Monasteriis" and Saint-Martin-des-Champs which also names "Hugo de Oysi filius Symonis vicecomitis, olim maritus meus"[319]. "Hugo de Oisiaco vicecomes Meldensis, castellanus Cameracensis" donated property to "ecclesiam B. Mariæ de Pratis", for the soul of "uxoris meæ Margaretæ", by charter dated 1189[320]. "Filiabus mei Margarita, Ysabella" consented to the donation by "Theobaldus comes Blesensis, Francie senesscalus" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 1190[321]. "…Philippo fratre et sororibus Marguerita, Isabella et Adelicia" consented to the donation by "Louis C. de Blois et de Clermont" to the abbey of l'Etoile by charter dated 1190[322]. William of Tyre (Continuator) records "la fille dou conte Thibaut de Blois" being the wife of "Otes dus de Borgoigne"[323]. "…Sororibus meis Margarita, Ysabella, Adelicis" consented to the donation by "Ludovicus comes Blesensis et Clarimontis" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 27 Jan 1196[324]. "…Sororibusque meis Margarita et Ysabella et Adelicia" consented to the confirmation by "Ludovicus Blesensis et Clarimontis comes" of the donation by "Gaufridus vicecomes Castriduni" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated Mar 1200[325]. The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "dominus Galterus filius [Jacobi] primogeniti" married "Margareta comitatus Blesensis hærede"[326]. "…Sororibus meis Margarita, Ysabella" consented to the donation by "Ludovicus Blesensis et Clarimontis comes…Iherosolimam proficiscens" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteadun by charter dated May 1202[327]. "Margareta uxor Galterii de Averna comitissa palatina Burgundie" confirmed an agreement between "Willelmum militem de Monasteriis" and Saint-Martin-des-Champs by charter dated [Jun/Aug] 1208 which also names "Hugo de Oysi filius Symonis vicecomitis, olim maritus meus"[328]. She succeeded her nephew in 1218 as Ctss de Blois et de Châteaudun. The necrology of the abbey of Vauduisant records the death "IV Id Jul" of "comitisse Blesensis Marguerite"[329]. The necrology of La Cour-Dieu records the death “IV Id Jul” of “comitissa Blesensis”[330].
"m firstly ([1183]) as his second wife, HUGUES [III] d'Oisy châtelain de Cambrai, son of SIMON d'Oisy, châtelain de Cambrai & his wife Ada de la Ferté-Ancoul (-29 Aug 1189).
"m secondly ([1190]) OTTO von Staufen Comte Palatin de Bourgogne, son of Emperor FRIEDRICH I "Barbarossa" & his second wife Beatrix Ctss Palatine de Bourgogne ([Jun/Jul] 1170-Besançon 13 Jan 1200, bur Besançon Saint-Etienne).
"m thirdly (after 1200) GAUTHIER [II] d'Avesnes Seigneur d'Avesnes, son of JACQUES Seigneur d'Avesnes & his wife Adeline de Guise (-[1243/46]). Comte de Blois et de Guise."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (Flanders 3): “E1. Wautier II, sn d'Avesnes, Cte de Blois, de Guise, etc, *1172-82, +I.1243/44; m.after 1200 Cts Marguerite de Blois (*ca 1170, +12.7.1230)”.26
; Per Racines et Histoire (Avesnes): “Wautier (Gauthier) II d’Avesnes ° ~1172/82 + 01/1243/46 seigneur d’Avesnes, Condé, Leuze, Landrecies, Guise et Trélon, comte de Blois (1218, par sa femme)
ép. après 1200 Marguerite, comtesse de Blois, co-comtesse de Chartres, comtesse de Blois (1218, succède à son neveu) ° ~1170 + 12/07/1230 (fille de Thibaud IV «Le Bon» de Blois et d’Alix de France ; veuve de 1) Hugues III d’Oisy, Châtelain de Cambrai (fils du vicomte Simon d’Oisy), Châtelain de Cambrai et de 2) Otto von Stauffen, comte palatin de Bourgogne) (cité dans une charte de donation de Thibaud de Blois à l’Hôtel-Dieu de Châteaudun 1183 ; témoin acte à Saint-Martin-des-Champs 06-08/1208)”.13
; Per Med Lands:
"GAUTHIER [II] d'Avesnes (-11 Jul [1243/46]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Galtherus [que] factus est comes Blesensis et…quatuor sorores comitissæ" as children of "Iacobo [filii Nicolao de Avenes]"[799]. The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis names "Walterum, Bouchardum, Jacobum et Guidonem" as the four sons of "Nicolai Plukelli filius primogenitus Jacobus" and his wife[800]. Seigneur d'Avesnes, de Guise, de Condé, de Leuze, de Landrechies et de Trélon. The Breve Chronicon Buciliensis records that “Adeluya domina Guisiæ” donated property to Bucilly in 1196 for the soul of “mariti sui Jacobi de Avenis”, with the consent of “Gualteri filii sui cæterorum liberorum suorum”[801]. Comte de Blois, in right of his wife. The necrology of La Cour-Dieu records the death “V Id Jul” of “Galterius de Avernis”[802].
"m (after 1200) as her third husband, MARGUERITE Ctss de Blois, widow firstly of HUGUES [III] d'Oisy Châtelain de Cambrai and secondly of OTTO von Staufen Comte Palatin de Bourgogne, daughter of THIBAUT IV Comte de Blois & his second wife Alix de France ([1170]-12 Jul 1230). "…Filiis quoque et filiabus meis Theobaldo et Ludovico atque Henrico, Margarita et Ysabella" consented to the donation by "Theobaldus Blesensis comes, Francie senesscalus" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 1183[803]. William of Tyre (Continuator) records "la fille dou conte Thibaut de Blois" being the wife of "Otes dus de Borgoigne"[804]. The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "dominus Galterus filius [Jacobi] primogeniti" married "Margareta comitatus Blesensis hærede"[805]. "Margareta uxor Galterii de Averna comitissa palatina Burgundie" confirm an agreement between "Willelmum militem de Monasteriis" and Saint-Martin-des-Champs by charter dated [Jun/Aug] 1208 which also names "Hugo de Oysi filius Symonis vicecomitis, olim maritus meus"[806]. “Guido de Dampetra...et Ioannis nepotis mei de monte Mirelli” notified that Blanche comtesse de Champagne was guarantor for “Hellium de Waurino et matrem eius” for “maritagio uxoris suæ...post decessum...Margaretæ uxoris Galteri de Auesnis” by charter dated Nov 1211[807]. The necrology of the abbey of Vauduisant records the death "IV Id Jul" of "comitisse Blesensis Marguerite"[808]. The necrology of La Cour-Dieu records the death “IV Id Jul” of “comitissa Blesensis”[809]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"OTTO von Staufen ([Jun/Jul] 1170-Besançon 13 Jan 1200, bur Besançon Saint-Etienne). William of Tyre (Continuator) names him as son of Emperor Friedrich[135]. The Annales Stadenses names (in order) "Heinrici imperatoris et Conradi Suevi et Friderici ducis Sueviæ et Ottonis sine terra et Philippi" as sons of "Beatrix imperatrix" when recording her death[136]. He succeeded in 1189 as OTHON I Comte Palatin de Bourgogne.
"m ([1190]) as her second husband, MARGUERITE de Blois, widow of HUGUES [III] d'Oisy Châtelain de Cambrai, daughter of THIBAUT V "le Bon" Comte de Blois & his second wife Alix de France ([1170]-12 Jul 1230). "…Filiis quoque et filiabus meis Theobaldo et Ludovico atque Henrico, Margarita et Ysabella" consented to the donation by "Theobaldus Blesensis comes, Francie senesscalus" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 1183[137]. William of Tyre (Continuator) records "la fille dou conte Thibaut de Blois" being the wife of "Otes dus de Borgoigne"[138]. "Margareta uxor Galterii de Averna comitissa palatina Burgundie" confirmed an agreement between "Willelmum militem de Monasteriis" and Saint-Martin-des-Champs by charter dated [Jun/Aug] 1208 which also names "Hugo de Oysi filius Symonis vicecomitis, olim maritus meus"[139]. She succeeded her nephew in 1218 as Ctss de Blois et de Châteaudun. She married thirdly Gauthier [II] d'Avesnes Seigneur de Guise. The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "dominus Galterus filius [Jacobi] primogeniti" married "Margareta comitatus Blesensis hærede"[140]. The necrology of the abbey of Vauduisant records the death "IV Id Jul" of "comitisse Blesensis Marguerite"[141]."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (Hohenstaufen): “E4. Otton I Comte Palatin de Bourgogne (1190-1200), *1167/71, +murdered at Besancon 13.1.1200, bur there; m.1190 Marguerite de Blois (*ca 1170 +12.7.1230)”.17
; Per Racines et Histoire: "Hugues III d’Oisy-Crèvecoeur + 29/08/1189 Châtelain de Cambrai, seigneur d’Oisy et de Crèvecoeur, se fait moine à Messines (1176/77)
(cité charte 06-07/1208 de Marguerite, comtesse palatine de Bourgogne dans un agrément avec Saint-Martin-des-Champs)
ép. 1) après 1158 Gertrude de Flandres + un 03/03 après 1186 se fait nonne à Messines (1176/77) (fille de Thierri 1er, comte de Flandres, et de Sibylle d’Anjou ; divorcée de Humbert III, comte de Maurienne et de Savoie)
ép. 2) 1183 Marguerite de Blois + 12/07/1230 comtesse de Blois et vicomtesse de Châteaudun (1218, succède à son neveu) (cités dans une donation de Thibaud à l’Hotel-Dieu de Châteaudun en 1183) (fille de Thibaud V, comte de Blois et de Chartres, et d’Alix de France ; ép. 2) 1190 Otto von Staufen, comte palatin de Bourgogne (Hohenstaufen) et 3) après 1200 Gautier II, seigneur d’Avesnes) sans postérité."15
; Per Med Lands:
"HUGUES [III] d'Oisy (-29 Aug 1189). "Symon Cameracensis castellanus" granted duty exemptions to the abbey of Saint-Amand, with the approval of "uxor mea Ada et Gilius filius meus", by charter dated 1156, witnessed by "Ade uxoris mee, Gilii filii mei, Hugonis filii mei, Heldiardis filie mee, Matheldis filie mee…"[413]. "Ada de Firmitate Ansculfi" donated property to "Radoliensis" monastery, with the consent of "domini Symonis sponsi mei vicecomitis Meldis…filiorum nostrorum Gilonis…et Hugonis et filiæ Matildis", by charter dated to [1160][414]. "Simon vicecomes Meldensis…etiam Ada vicecomitissa" donated property to "Radoliensis" monastery, for the soul of "filii nostri Gilonis", with the consent of "filii nostri Hugo et Petrus et filia nostra Heldealdis", by charter dated to [1164][415]. "Simon Firmitatis Ansculfi vicecomes et uxor mea Ada" donated property to "Radoliensis" monastery, with the support of "filiis et filiabus meis Hugone et Petro, necnon Heldiarde et Mathilde", by charter dated to [1165][416]. "Symon...dominus de Oisi filiusque meus Hugo" donated property to Ourscamp Notre-Dame, with the consent of “ceteri liberi mei Petrus...archidiaconus Cameracensis et Heldegardis et Mathildis, uxorque mea Ada, conjux que filii mei...Gertrudis”, by charter dated 1169[417]. His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated [Jun/Aug] 1208 under which "Margareta uxor Galterii de Averna comitissa palatina Burgundie" confirmed an agreement between "Willelmum militem de Monasteriis" and Saint-Martin-des-Champs which also names "Hugo de Oysi filius Symonis vicecomitis, olim maritus meus"[418]. Châtelain de Cambrai. "Ada Meldensium vicecomitissa" made her testament, for the souls of "mariti mei, Gilonis filii mei", with the consent of "filius meus Hugo Cameracensis castellanus…Petrus Cameracensis archidiaconus filius meus, Andreas de Firmitate Gaucheri et Heldiardis uxor sua filia mea", by charter dated to [1171][419]. "…Hugonis de Oisi…" signed the charter dated [24 Apr/12 Jun] 1177 under which Philippe Count of Flanders declared that his older sister renounced the inheritance of her brother [420]. He became a monk at Messines in [1177]. "Hugo de Oisiaco vicecomes Meldensis, castellanus Cameracensis" donated property to "ecclesiam B. Mariæ de Pratis", for the soul of "uxoris meæ Margaretæ", by charter dated 1189[421]. The necrology of the Prieuré de Collinances records the death "29 Aug" of "vicecomes Hugo"[422].
"m firstly (after 1158) as her second husband, GERTRUDE de Flandre, divorced wife of HUMBERT III Comte de Maurienne et de Savoie, daughter of THIERRY I Count of Flanders & his second wife Sibylle d'Anjou (-3 Mar after 1186). The Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana names (in order) "Philippum, Matheum, Petrum et tres filias" as the children of "Theodericus filius ducis Alsatie [et] Sibillam", not naming the daughters but specifying that "quarum primogenita nupsit Amico comiti Intermontano"[423]. The Flandria Generosa names (in order) "Gertrudem et Margaretam" as the two daughters of Count Thierry & his second wife[424]. The Flandria Generosa, in a later manuscript, names "Gertrudis primogenita" and her first husband "comiti de Moriana", from whom she was separated, and her second husband "Hugoni de Oisi", specifying that she later became a nun at "Mencinis"[425]. Philippe Count of Flanders, on the point of leaving on crusade, declared that "sororis mee Gertrudis quondam Morianensis comitisse" had renounced her inheritance before becoming a nun, by charter dated [24 Apr/12 Jun] 1177[426]. She became a nun at Messines [1177].
"m secondly ([1183]) as her first husband, MARGUERITE de Blois, daughter of THIBAUT V Comte de Blois et de Chartres & his second wife Alix de France (-12 Jul 1230). "…Filiis quoque et filiabus meis Theobaldo et Ludovico atque Henrico, Margarita et Ysabella" consented to the donation by "Theobaldus Blesensis comes, Francie senesscalus" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 1183[427]. "Hugo vicecomes Meldensis" donated property to Cavea monastery, with the consent of "domina Margarete uxore mea", by charter dated to [1185][428]. Her first marriage is confirmed by the charter dated [Jun/Aug] 1208 under which "Margareta uxor Galterii de Averna comitissa palatina Burgundie" confirmed an agreement between "Willelmum militem de Monasteriis" and Saint-Martin-des-Champs which also names "Hugo de Oysi filius Symonis vicecomitis, olim maritus meus"[429]. "Hugo de Oisiaco vicecomes Meldensis, castellanus Cameracensis" donated property to "ecclesiam B. Mariæ de Pratis", for the soul of "uxoris meæ Margaretæ", by charter dated 1189[430]. She married secondly ([1190]) Otto von Staufen Comte Palatin de Bourgogne, [Hohenstaufen], and thirdly (after 1200) Gauthier [II] Seigneur d'Avesnes. William of Tyre (Continuator) records "la fille dou conte Thibaut de Blois" being the wife of "Otes dus de Borgoigne"[431]. The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "dominus Galterus filius [Jacobi] primogeniti" married "Margareta comitatus Blesensis hærede"[432]. She succeeded her nephew in 1218 as Ctss de Blois, Vicomtesse de Châteaudun. "Margareta uxor Galterii de Averna comitissa palatina Burgundie" confirmed an agreement between "Willelmum militem de Monasteriis" and Saint-Martin-des-Champs by charter dated [Jun/Aug] 1208 which also names "Hugo de Oysi filius Symonis vicecomitis, olim maritus meus"[433]. The necrology of the abbey of Vauduisant records the death "IV Id Jul" of "comitisse Blesensis Marguerite"[434]."
Med Lands cites:
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Her 1st husband; his 2nd wife.2,14,15,6,11,8 Marguerite de Blois Comtesse de Blois et de Châteaudun, co-comtesse de Chartres married Otto II von Hohenstaufen Count Palatine, Pgv. de Bourgogne, son of Friedrich I "Barbarossa" (?) King of Germany, Holy Roman Emperor and Beatrix de Bourgogne Css Palatine de Bourgogne, circa 1190
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Her 2nd husband.
Genealogy.EU (Hohenstaufen page) says m. 1190; Leo van de Pas says m. 1191; Louda & Maclagan (Table 90) says m. 1192; Med Lands says m. 1190.16,17,2,4,5,6,11,8,18,19 Marguerite de Blois Comtesse de Blois et de Châteaudun, co-comtesse de Chartres married Gauthier/Wautier II d'Avesnes Seigneur d’Avesnes, Condé, Leuze, Landrecies, Guise et Trélon, comte de Blois et Guise, son of Jacques (?) seigneur d'Avesnes, Leuse, Conde and Guise and Adelvie/Ameline (?) de Guise, after 1200
; Her 3rd husband.20,2,4,21,22,13,5,6,11,8
Marguerite de Blois Comtesse de Blois et de Châteaudun, co-comtesse de Chartres died on 12 July 1230; Mississippienne says d. aft 1230; Louda & Maclagan says d. 1231; Genealogics says d. 7 May 1231; Med Lands says d. 12 Julv 1230; Genealopgy.EU (Blois 1) says d. 12 Julv 1230; Racines et Histoire says d. 12 July 1230.20,13,16,5,6,11,8
Marguerite de Blois Comtesse de Blois et de Châteaudun, co-comtesse de Chartres was buried after 12 July 1230 at Cathédrale Saint-Jean de Besançon, Besançon, Departement du Doubs, Franche-Comté, France; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 1169
DEATH 12 Jul 1230 (aged 60–61), Besancon, Departement du Doubs, Franche-Comté, France
French Nobility. She was the oldest daughter of Thibaut V, Count of Blois and Chartres and his second wife Alix de France, a daughter of Eleanor of Aquitaine from her first marriage. In 1183 she married Hugh III de Oisy who died in 1189. A year after his death she married Otto von Hohenstaufen, Count Palatine of Burgundy and gave birth to two daughters. Jeanne succeeded her father in 1200 but died only five years after him and was succeeded by her sister Beatrice. During their daughters minority she acted as regent for them in Burgundy until Beatrix married Otto of Andechs-Meran who took over from her. She married a third time Gautier II de Avesnes and gave birth to three children. Thibaut died young, Isabelle married Jean de Oisy and Marie, as her parents heir, married Hugo I. de Châtillon. After the death of her nephew Thibaut VI in 1218 she became Countess of Blois and Chateaudun. By her daughter Beatrix she is great-grandmother of Elisabeth of Orlamünde and Othon V de Salins. She was first buried at St Etienne and was moved to St Jean in 1674. Bio by: Lutetia
Family Members
Parents
Thibaut V de Blois 1130–1191
Spouse
Otto von Hohenstaufen 1167–1200
Children
Jeanne de Bourgogne 1191–1208
Beatrix II de Bourgogne 1193–1231
Marie de Avesnes 1200–1241
BURIAL Cathédrale Saint-Jean de Besançon, Besancon, Departement du Doubs, Franche-Comté, France
Maintained by: Find a Grave
Originally Created by: Lutetia
Added: 18 Apr 2006
Find a Grave Memorial 13988680.23
EDV-24.
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, Band I, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. 5.
2. Les seize quartiers des Reines et Imperatrices Francaises, 1977, Saillot, Jacques. 217 nr 23.
3. The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H. 186.5
2. Les seize quartiers des Reines et Imperatrices Francaises, 1977, Saillot, Jacques. 217 nr 23.
3. The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H. 186.5
; This is the same person as ”Margaret, Countess of Blois” at Wikipedia and as ”Marguerite de Blois” at Wikipédia (FR).24,7
; Per Genealogy.EU (Blois 1): “G5. Marguerite, Cts de Blois et de Châteaudun, *ca 1170, +12.7.1230; 1m: ca 1183 Hugues III d'Oisy, Vcte de Cambrai (+1189/90); 2m: ca 1190 Otto von Hohenstaufen, Ct Palatine of Burgundy (+1200); 3m: after 1200 Gautier II d'Avesnes, Cte de Blois, de Guise, etc (+ca 1246)”.25
; Per Racines et Histoire (Blois-Chartres): “2) Marguerite de Blois ° ~1170 + 12/07/1230 comtesse de Blois et de Châteaudun (1218, succède à son neveu) (citée dans une charte de confirmation d’agrément avec Saint-Martin-des-Champs en 06-08/1208 ; souscrit une donation de son frère Louis à l’Abbaye de L’Etoile en1190 et une autre, du même, à l’Hôtel-Dieu de Châteaudun le 27/01/1196 ; & d’autres actes en 03/1200 & 05/1202)
ép. 1) 1183 ou ~1189 Hugues III d’Oisy, vicomte (Châtelain) de Cambrai + 29/08/1189 (fils de Simon d’Oisy, châtelain de Cambrai, et d’Ade de La Ferté-Ancoul (sous-Jouarre))
ép. 2) ~1190/92 Otto von (Hohen)Stauffen, comte Palatin de Bourgogne ° 06-07/1170 + 13/01/1200 (Besançon) (fils de l’Empereur Friedrich 1er «Barbarossa», Roi de Germanie, et de Béatrix, comtesse Palatine de Bourgogne
ép. 3) après 1200 Gautier (Wautier) II d’Avesnes, seigneur d’Avesnes, comte de Blois”.8
; Per Med Lands:
"MARGUERITE ([1170]-12 Jul 1230). "…Filiis quoque et filiabus meis Theobaldo et Ludovico atque Henrico, Margarita et Ysabella" consented to the donation by "Theobaldus Blesensis comes, Francie senesscalus" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 1183[317]. "Hugo vicecomes Meldensis" donated property to Cavea monastery, with the consent of "domina Margarete uxore mea", by charter dated to [1185][318]. Her first marriage is confirmed by the charter dated [Jun/Aug] 1208 under which "Margareta uxor Galterii de Averna comitissa palatina Burgundie" confirmed an agreement between "Willelmum militem de Monasteriis" and Saint-Martin-des-Champs which also names "Hugo de Oysi filius Symonis vicecomitis, olim maritus meus"[319]. "Hugo de Oisiaco vicecomes Meldensis, castellanus Cameracensis" donated property to "ecclesiam B. Mariæ de Pratis", for the soul of "uxoris meæ Margaretæ", by charter dated 1189[320]. "Filiabus mei Margarita, Ysabella" consented to the donation by "Theobaldus comes Blesensis, Francie senesscalus" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 1190[321]. "…Philippo fratre et sororibus Marguerita, Isabella et Adelicia" consented to the donation by "Louis C. de Blois et de Clermont" to the abbey of l'Etoile by charter dated 1190[322]. William of Tyre (Continuator) records "la fille dou conte Thibaut de Blois" being the wife of "Otes dus de Borgoigne"[323]. "…Sororibus meis Margarita, Ysabella, Adelicis" consented to the donation by "Ludovicus comes Blesensis et Clarimontis" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 27 Jan 1196[324]. "…Sororibusque meis Margarita et Ysabella et Adelicia" consented to the confirmation by "Ludovicus Blesensis et Clarimontis comes" of the donation by "Gaufridus vicecomes Castriduni" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated Mar 1200[325]. The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "dominus Galterus filius [Jacobi] primogeniti" married "Margareta comitatus Blesensis hærede"[326]. "…Sororibus meis Margarita, Ysabella" consented to the donation by "Ludovicus Blesensis et Clarimontis comes…Iherosolimam proficiscens" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteadun by charter dated May 1202[327]. "Margareta uxor Galterii de Averna comitissa palatina Burgundie" confirmed an agreement between "Willelmum militem de Monasteriis" and Saint-Martin-des-Champs by charter dated [Jun/Aug] 1208 which also names "Hugo de Oysi filius Symonis vicecomitis, olim maritus meus"[328]. She succeeded her nephew in 1218 as Ctss de Blois et de Châteaudun. The necrology of the abbey of Vauduisant records the death "IV Id Jul" of "comitisse Blesensis Marguerite"[329]. The necrology of La Cour-Dieu records the death “IV Id Jul” of “comitissa Blesensis”[330].
"m firstly ([1183]) as his second wife, HUGUES [III] d'Oisy châtelain de Cambrai, son of SIMON d'Oisy, châtelain de Cambrai & his wife Ada de la Ferté-Ancoul (-29 Aug 1189).
"m secondly ([1190]) OTTO von Staufen Comte Palatin de Bourgogne, son of Emperor FRIEDRICH I "Barbarossa" & his second wife Beatrix Ctss Palatine de Bourgogne ([Jun/Jul] 1170-Besançon 13 Jan 1200, bur Besançon Saint-Etienne).
"m thirdly (after 1200) GAUTHIER [II] d'Avesnes Seigneur d'Avesnes, son of JACQUES Seigneur d'Avesnes & his wife Adeline de Guise (-[1243/46]). Comte de Blois et de Guise."
Med Lands cites:
[317] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu XXV, p. 20.
[318] Toussaint du Plessis (1731), Tome II, Pièces justificatives, CLXIII, p. 75.
[319] Paris Saint-Martin-des-Champs III, 672, p. 273.
[320] Miraeus (Le Mire) (1723), Tome I, Notitia Ecclesiarum Belgii, CXV, p. 718.
[321] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu XXXII, p. 24.
[322] Chartes Vendômoises CXXIV, p. 157.
[323] William of Tyre Continuator XXIV.IX, p. 118.
[324] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu XLII, p. 29.
[325] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu LI, p. 35.
[326] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF, Tome XIII, p. 560.
[327] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu LXVII, p. 45.
[328] Paris Saint-Martin-des-Champs III, 672, p. 273.
[329] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Vauduisant, p. 55.
[330] Obituaires de Sens Tome III, Abbaye de la Cour-Dieu, Extraits des deux obituaires, p. 172.6
[318] Toussaint du Plessis (1731), Tome II, Pièces justificatives, CLXIII, p. 75.
[319] Paris Saint-Martin-des-Champs III, 672, p. 273.
[320] Miraeus (Le Mire) (1723), Tome I, Notitia Ecclesiarum Belgii, CXV, p. 718.
[321] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu XXXII, p. 24.
[322] Chartes Vendômoises CXXIV, p. 157.
[323] William of Tyre Continuator XXIV.IX, p. 118.
[324] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu XLII, p. 29.
[325] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu LI, p. 35.
[326] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF, Tome XIII, p. 560.
[327] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu LXVII, p. 45.
[328] Paris Saint-Martin-des-Champs III, 672, p. 273.
[329] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Vauduisant, p. 55.
[330] Obituaires de Sens Tome III, Abbaye de la Cour-Dieu, Extraits des deux obituaires, p. 172.6
; Per Genealogy.EU (Flanders 3): “E1. Wautier II, sn d'Avesnes, Cte de Blois, de Guise, etc, *1172-82, +I.1243/44; m.after 1200 Cts Marguerite de Blois (*ca 1170, +12.7.1230)”.26
; Per Racines et Histoire (Avesnes): “Wautier (Gauthier) II d’Avesnes ° ~1172/82 + 01/1243/46 seigneur d’Avesnes, Condé, Leuze, Landrecies, Guise et Trélon, comte de Blois (1218, par sa femme)
ép. après 1200 Marguerite, comtesse de Blois, co-comtesse de Chartres, comtesse de Blois (1218, succède à son neveu) ° ~1170 + 12/07/1230 (fille de Thibaud IV «Le Bon» de Blois et d’Alix de France ; veuve de 1) Hugues III d’Oisy, Châtelain de Cambrai (fils du vicomte Simon d’Oisy), Châtelain de Cambrai et de 2) Otto von Stauffen, comte palatin de Bourgogne) (cité dans une charte de donation de Thibaud de Blois à l’Hôtel-Dieu de Châteaudun 1183 ; témoin acte à Saint-Martin-des-Champs 06-08/1208)”.13
; Per Med Lands:
"GAUTHIER [II] d'Avesnes (-11 Jul [1243/46]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Galtherus [que] factus est comes Blesensis et…quatuor sorores comitissæ" as children of "Iacobo [filii Nicolao de Avenes]"[799]. The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis names "Walterum, Bouchardum, Jacobum et Guidonem" as the four sons of "Nicolai Plukelli filius primogenitus Jacobus" and his wife[800]. Seigneur d'Avesnes, de Guise, de Condé, de Leuze, de Landrechies et de Trélon. The Breve Chronicon Buciliensis records that “Adeluya domina Guisiæ” donated property to Bucilly in 1196 for the soul of “mariti sui Jacobi de Avenis”, with the consent of “Gualteri filii sui cæterorum liberorum suorum”[801]. Comte de Blois, in right of his wife. The necrology of La Cour-Dieu records the death “V Id Jul” of “Galterius de Avernis”[802].
"m (after 1200) as her third husband, MARGUERITE Ctss de Blois, widow firstly of HUGUES [III] d'Oisy Châtelain de Cambrai and secondly of OTTO von Staufen Comte Palatin de Bourgogne, daughter of THIBAUT IV Comte de Blois & his second wife Alix de France ([1170]-12 Jul 1230). "…Filiis quoque et filiabus meis Theobaldo et Ludovico atque Henrico, Margarita et Ysabella" consented to the donation by "Theobaldus Blesensis comes, Francie senesscalus" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 1183[803]. William of Tyre (Continuator) records "la fille dou conte Thibaut de Blois" being the wife of "Otes dus de Borgoigne"[804]. The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "dominus Galterus filius [Jacobi] primogeniti" married "Margareta comitatus Blesensis hærede"[805]. "Margareta uxor Galterii de Averna comitissa palatina Burgundie" confirm an agreement between "Willelmum militem de Monasteriis" and Saint-Martin-des-Champs by charter dated [Jun/Aug] 1208 which also names "Hugo de Oysi filius Symonis vicecomitis, olim maritus meus"[806]. “Guido de Dampetra...et Ioannis nepotis mei de monte Mirelli” notified that Blanche comtesse de Champagne was guarantor for “Hellium de Waurino et matrem eius” for “maritagio uxoris suæ...post decessum...Margaretæ uxoris Galteri de Auesnis” by charter dated Nov 1211[807]. The necrology of the abbey of Vauduisant records the death "IV Id Jul" of "comitisse Blesensis Marguerite"[808]. The necrology of La Cour-Dieu records the death “IV Id Jul” of “comitissa Blesensis”[809]."
Med Lands cites:
[799] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 853.
[800] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, p. 560.
[801] Breve Chronicon Buciliensis, p. 16.
[802] Obituaires de Sens Tome III, Abbaye de la Cour-Dieu, Extraits des deux obituaires, p. 172.
[803] Belfort, A. de (ed.) (1881) Archives de la Maison-Dieu de Châteaudun (Paris, Châteaudun) (“Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu”) XXV, p. 20.
[804] WTC XXIV.IX, p. 118.
[805] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, p. 560.
[806] Depoin, J. (ed.) (1917) Recueil de chartes et documents de Saint-Martin-des-Champs, monastère parisien, Archives de la France monastique Tome XVIII (Paris) ("Paris St Martin-des-Champs") III, 672, p. 273.
[807] Chantereau le Febvre, L. (1662) Traité des Fiefs et de leur origine (Paris), Autres preuves par les Actes, p. 44.
[808] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Vauduisant, p. 55.
[809] Obituaires de Sens Tome III, Abbaye de la Cour-Dieu, Extraits des deux obituaires, p. 172.22
[800] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, p. 560.
[801] Breve Chronicon Buciliensis, p. 16.
[802] Obituaires de Sens Tome III, Abbaye de la Cour-Dieu, Extraits des deux obituaires, p. 172.
[803] Belfort, A. de (ed.) (1881) Archives de la Maison-Dieu de Châteaudun (Paris, Châteaudun) (“Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu”) XXV, p. 20.
[804] WTC XXIV.IX, p. 118.
[805] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, p. 560.
[806] Depoin, J. (ed.) (1917) Recueil de chartes et documents de Saint-Martin-des-Champs, monastère parisien, Archives de la France monastique Tome XVIII (Paris) ("Paris St Martin-des-Champs") III, 672, p. 273.
[807] Chantereau le Febvre, L. (1662) Traité des Fiefs et de leur origine (Paris), Autres preuves par les Actes, p. 44.
[808] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Vauduisant, p. 55.
[809] Obituaires de Sens Tome III, Abbaye de la Cour-Dieu, Extraits des deux obituaires, p. 172.22
; Per Med Lands:
"OTTO von Staufen ([Jun/Jul] 1170-Besançon 13 Jan 1200, bur Besançon Saint-Etienne). William of Tyre (Continuator) names him as son of Emperor Friedrich[135]. The Annales Stadenses names (in order) "Heinrici imperatoris et Conradi Suevi et Friderici ducis Sueviæ et Ottonis sine terra et Philippi" as sons of "Beatrix imperatrix" when recording her death[136]. He succeeded in 1189 as OTHON I Comte Palatin de Bourgogne.
"m ([1190]) as her second husband, MARGUERITE de Blois, widow of HUGUES [III] d'Oisy Châtelain de Cambrai, daughter of THIBAUT V "le Bon" Comte de Blois & his second wife Alix de France ([1170]-12 Jul 1230). "…Filiis quoque et filiabus meis Theobaldo et Ludovico atque Henrico, Margarita et Ysabella" consented to the donation by "Theobaldus Blesensis comes, Francie senesscalus" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 1183[137]. William of Tyre (Continuator) records "la fille dou conte Thibaut de Blois" being the wife of "Otes dus de Borgoigne"[138]. "Margareta uxor Galterii de Averna comitissa palatina Burgundie" confirmed an agreement between "Willelmum militem de Monasteriis" and Saint-Martin-des-Champs by charter dated [Jun/Aug] 1208 which also names "Hugo de Oysi filius Symonis vicecomitis, olim maritus meus"[139]. She succeeded her nephew in 1218 as Ctss de Blois et de Châteaudun. She married thirdly Gauthier [II] d'Avesnes Seigneur de Guise. The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "dominus Galterus filius [Jacobi] primogeniti" married "Margareta comitatus Blesensis hærede"[140]. The necrology of the abbey of Vauduisant records the death "IV Id Jul" of "comitisse Blesensis Marguerite"[141]."
Med Lands cites:
[135] William of Tyre Continuator, XXIV.IX, p. 118.
[136] Annales Stadenses 1185, MGH SS XVI, p. 351.
[137] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu, XXV, p. 20.
[138] William of Tyre Continuator XXIV.IX, p. 118.
[139] Paris Saint-Martin-des-Champs, Vol. III, 672, p. 273.
[140] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, p. 560.
[141] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Vauduisant, p. 55.19
[136] Annales Stadenses 1185, MGH SS XVI, p. 351.
[137] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu, XXV, p. 20.
[138] William of Tyre Continuator XXIV.IX, p. 118.
[139] Paris Saint-Martin-des-Champs, Vol. III, 672, p. 273.
[140] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, p. 560.
[141] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Vauduisant, p. 55.19
; Per Genealogy.EU (Hohenstaufen): “E4. Otton I Comte Palatin de Bourgogne (1190-1200), *1167/71, +murdered at Besancon 13.1.1200, bur there; m.1190 Marguerite de Blois (*ca 1170 +12.7.1230)”.17
; Per Racines et Histoire: "Hugues III d’Oisy-Crèvecoeur + 29/08/1189 Châtelain de Cambrai, seigneur d’Oisy et de Crèvecoeur, se fait moine à Messines (1176/77)
(cité charte 06-07/1208 de Marguerite, comtesse palatine de Bourgogne dans un agrément avec Saint-Martin-des-Champs)
ép. 1) après 1158 Gertrude de Flandres + un 03/03 après 1186 se fait nonne à Messines (1176/77) (fille de Thierri 1er, comte de Flandres, et de Sibylle d’Anjou ; divorcée de Humbert III, comte de Maurienne et de Savoie)
ép. 2) 1183 Marguerite de Blois + 12/07/1230 comtesse de Blois et vicomtesse de Châteaudun (1218, succède à son neveu) (cités dans une donation de Thibaud à l’Hotel-Dieu de Châteaudun en 1183) (fille de Thibaud V, comte de Blois et de Chartres, et d’Alix de France ; ép. 2) 1190 Otto von Staufen, comte palatin de Bourgogne (Hohenstaufen) et 3) après 1200 Gautier II, seigneur d’Avesnes) sans postérité."15
; Per Med Lands:
"HUGUES [III] d'Oisy (-29 Aug 1189). "Symon Cameracensis castellanus" granted duty exemptions to the abbey of Saint-Amand, with the approval of "uxor mea Ada et Gilius filius meus", by charter dated 1156, witnessed by "Ade uxoris mee, Gilii filii mei, Hugonis filii mei, Heldiardis filie mee, Matheldis filie mee…"[413]. "Ada de Firmitate Ansculfi" donated property to "Radoliensis" monastery, with the consent of "domini Symonis sponsi mei vicecomitis Meldis…filiorum nostrorum Gilonis…et Hugonis et filiæ Matildis", by charter dated to [1160][414]. "Simon vicecomes Meldensis…etiam Ada vicecomitissa" donated property to "Radoliensis" monastery, for the soul of "filii nostri Gilonis", with the consent of "filii nostri Hugo et Petrus et filia nostra Heldealdis", by charter dated to [1164][415]. "Simon Firmitatis Ansculfi vicecomes et uxor mea Ada" donated property to "Radoliensis" monastery, with the support of "filiis et filiabus meis Hugone et Petro, necnon Heldiarde et Mathilde", by charter dated to [1165][416]. "Symon...dominus de Oisi filiusque meus Hugo" donated property to Ourscamp Notre-Dame, with the consent of “ceteri liberi mei Petrus...archidiaconus Cameracensis et Heldegardis et Mathildis, uxorque mea Ada, conjux que filii mei...Gertrudis”, by charter dated 1169[417]. His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated [Jun/Aug] 1208 under which "Margareta uxor Galterii de Averna comitissa palatina Burgundie" confirmed an agreement between "Willelmum militem de Monasteriis" and Saint-Martin-des-Champs which also names "Hugo de Oysi filius Symonis vicecomitis, olim maritus meus"[418]. Châtelain de Cambrai. "Ada Meldensium vicecomitissa" made her testament, for the souls of "mariti mei, Gilonis filii mei", with the consent of "filius meus Hugo Cameracensis castellanus…Petrus Cameracensis archidiaconus filius meus, Andreas de Firmitate Gaucheri et Heldiardis uxor sua filia mea", by charter dated to [1171][419]. "…Hugonis de Oisi…" signed the charter dated [24 Apr/12 Jun] 1177 under which Philippe Count of Flanders declared that his older sister renounced the inheritance of her brother [420]. He became a monk at Messines in [1177]. "Hugo de Oisiaco vicecomes Meldensis, castellanus Cameracensis" donated property to "ecclesiam B. Mariæ de Pratis", for the soul of "uxoris meæ Margaretæ", by charter dated 1189[421]. The necrology of the Prieuré de Collinances records the death "29 Aug" of "vicecomes Hugo"[422].
"m firstly (after 1158) as her second husband, GERTRUDE de Flandre, divorced wife of HUMBERT III Comte de Maurienne et de Savoie, daughter of THIERRY I Count of Flanders & his second wife Sibylle d'Anjou (-3 Mar after 1186). The Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana names (in order) "Philippum, Matheum, Petrum et tres filias" as the children of "Theodericus filius ducis Alsatie [et] Sibillam", not naming the daughters but specifying that "quarum primogenita nupsit Amico comiti Intermontano"[423]. The Flandria Generosa names (in order) "Gertrudem et Margaretam" as the two daughters of Count Thierry & his second wife[424]. The Flandria Generosa, in a later manuscript, names "Gertrudis primogenita" and her first husband "comiti de Moriana", from whom she was separated, and her second husband "Hugoni de Oisi", specifying that she later became a nun at "Mencinis"[425]. Philippe Count of Flanders, on the point of leaving on crusade, declared that "sororis mee Gertrudis quondam Morianensis comitisse" had renounced her inheritance before becoming a nun, by charter dated [24 Apr/12 Jun] 1177[426]. She became a nun at Messines [1177].
"m secondly ([1183]) as her first husband, MARGUERITE de Blois, daughter of THIBAUT V Comte de Blois et de Chartres & his second wife Alix de France (-12 Jul 1230). "…Filiis quoque et filiabus meis Theobaldo et Ludovico atque Henrico, Margarita et Ysabella" consented to the donation by "Theobaldus Blesensis comes, Francie senesscalus" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 1183[427]. "Hugo vicecomes Meldensis" donated property to Cavea monastery, with the consent of "domina Margarete uxore mea", by charter dated to [1185][428]. Her first marriage is confirmed by the charter dated [Jun/Aug] 1208 under which "Margareta uxor Galterii de Averna comitissa palatina Burgundie" confirmed an agreement between "Willelmum militem de Monasteriis" and Saint-Martin-des-Champs which also names "Hugo de Oysi filius Symonis vicecomitis, olim maritus meus"[429]. "Hugo de Oisiaco vicecomes Meldensis, castellanus Cameracensis" donated property to "ecclesiam B. Mariæ de Pratis", for the soul of "uxoris meæ Margaretæ", by charter dated 1189[430]. She married secondly ([1190]) Otto von Staufen Comte Palatin de Bourgogne, [Hohenstaufen], and thirdly (after 1200) Gauthier [II] Seigneur d'Avesnes. William of Tyre (Continuator) records "la fille dou conte Thibaut de Blois" being the wife of "Otes dus de Borgoigne"[431]. The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "dominus Galterus filius [Jacobi] primogeniti" married "Margareta comitatus Blesensis hærede"[432]. She succeeded her nephew in 1218 as Ctss de Blois, Vicomtesse de Châteaudun. "Margareta uxor Galterii de Averna comitissa palatina Burgundie" confirmed an agreement between "Willelmum militem de Monasteriis" and Saint-Martin-des-Champs by charter dated [Jun/Aug] 1208 which also names "Hugo de Oysi filius Symonis vicecomitis, olim maritus meus"[433]. The necrology of the abbey of Vauduisant records the death "IV Id Jul" of "comitisse Blesensis Marguerite"[434]."
Med Lands cites:
[413] Brassart (1877), LXXVII, p. 123.
[414] Toussaints du Plessis (1731), Tome II, Pièces justificatives, XCI, p. 49.
[415] Toussaints du Plessis (1731), Tome II, Pièces justificatives, XCII, p. 49.
[416] Toussaints du Plessis (1731), Tome II, Pièces justificatives, CV, p. 54.
[417] Ourscamp Notre-Dame DCCCXVII, p. 494.
[418] Depoin, J. (ed.) (1917) Recueil de chartes et documents de Saint-Martin-des-Champs, monastère parisien (Paris) ("Paris St Martin-des-Champs"), III, 672, p. 273.
[419] Toussaints du Plessis (1731), Tome II, Pièces justificatives, CXXI, p. 60.
[420] Duvivier, C. (1903) Actes et documents anciens interéssant la Belgique, Nouvelle série (Brussels), 46, p. 89.
[421] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, Notitia Ecclesiarum Belgii, CXV, p. 718.
[422] Obituaires de Sens Tome IV, Prieuré de Collinances, p. 201.
[423] Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana, Continuatio Leidensis et Divionensis, MGH SS IX, p. 307.
[424] Flandria Generosa (Continuatio Claromariscensis), MGH SS IX, p. 326.
[425] Flandria Generosa (Continuatio Claromariscensis) 1, MGH SS IX, p. 327.
[426] Duvivier (1903), 46, p. 89.
[427] Belfort, A. de (ed.) (1881) Archives de la Maison-Dieu de Châteaudun (Paris, Châteaudun) (“Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu”), XXV, p. 20.
[428] Toussaints du Plessis (1731), Tome II, Pièces justificatives, CLXIII, p. 75.
[429] Paris St Martin-des-Champs III, 672, p. 273.
[430] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, Notitia Ecclesiarum Belgii, CXV, p. 718.
[431] RHC, Historiens occidentaux II, Historia Rerum in partibus transmarinis gestarum ("L'estoire de Eracles Empereur et la conqueste de la terre d'Outremer"), Continuator (“WTC”) XXIV.IX, p. 118.
[432] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, p. 560.
[433] Paris St Martin-des-Champs III, 672, p. 273.
[434] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Vauduisant, p. 55.14
[414] Toussaints du Plessis (1731), Tome II, Pièces justificatives, XCI, p. 49.
[415] Toussaints du Plessis (1731), Tome II, Pièces justificatives, XCII, p. 49.
[416] Toussaints du Plessis (1731), Tome II, Pièces justificatives, CV, p. 54.
[417] Ourscamp Notre-Dame DCCCXVII, p. 494.
[418] Depoin, J. (ed.) (1917) Recueil de chartes et documents de Saint-Martin-des-Champs, monastère parisien (Paris) ("Paris St Martin-des-Champs"), III, 672, p. 273.
[419] Toussaints du Plessis (1731), Tome II, Pièces justificatives, CXXI, p. 60.
[420] Duvivier, C. (1903) Actes et documents anciens interéssant la Belgique, Nouvelle série (Brussels), 46, p. 89.
[421] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, Notitia Ecclesiarum Belgii, CXV, p. 718.
[422] Obituaires de Sens Tome IV, Prieuré de Collinances, p. 201.
[423] Genealogica Comitum Flandriæ Bertiniana, Continuatio Leidensis et Divionensis, MGH SS IX, p. 307.
[424] Flandria Generosa (Continuatio Claromariscensis), MGH SS IX, p. 326.
[425] Flandria Generosa (Continuatio Claromariscensis) 1, MGH SS IX, p. 327.
[426] Duvivier (1903), 46, p. 89.
[427] Belfort, A. de (ed.) (1881) Archives de la Maison-Dieu de Châteaudun (Paris, Châteaudun) (“Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu”), XXV, p. 20.
[428] Toussaints du Plessis (1731), Tome II, Pièces justificatives, CLXIII, p. 75.
[429] Paris St Martin-des-Champs III, 672, p. 273.
[430] Miraeus (1723), Tome I, Notitia Ecclesiarum Belgii, CXV, p. 718.
[431] RHC, Historiens occidentaux II, Historia Rerum in partibus transmarinis gestarum ("L'estoire de Eracles Empereur et la conqueste de la terre d'Outremer"), Continuator (“WTC”) XXIV.IX, p. 118.
[432] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, p. 560.
[433] Paris St Martin-des-Champs III, 672, p. 273.
[434] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Vauduisant, p. 55.14
Family 1 | Hugues III d'Oisy vicomte (châtelain) de Cambrai d. bt 1189 - 1190 |
Family 2 | Otto II von Hohenstaufen Count Palatine, Pgv. de Bourgogne b. Jul 1170, d. 13 Jan 1200 |
Children |
Family 3 | Gauthier/Wautier II d'Avesnes Seigneur d’Avesnes, Condé, Leuze, Landrecies, Guise et Trélon, comte de Blois et Guise b. bt 1172 - 1182, d. bt Jan 1243 - 1244 |
Children |
Citations
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- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Blois & Chartres (Blois-Champagne), p. 8: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Blois-Champagne.pdf
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- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Blois 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/blois/blois1.html#MT4
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Alice de France: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00003840&tree=LEO
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- [S1426] Jiri Louda (Tables) and Michael Maclagan (text), Lines of Succession: Heraldry of the Royal Families of Europe (New York, NY: Barnes & Noble Books, 2002), Table 90: Holy Roman Empire - General survey (until Frederick III). Hereinafter cited as Louda & Maclagan [2002] Lines of Succession.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Hohenstaufen page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/hohst/hohenstauf.html
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- [S1979] Douglas Richardson, "Mississippienne email 18 Oct 2005: "Grandchildren of Eleanor of Aquitaine"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 18 Oct 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Mississippienne email 18 Oct 2005."
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- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Johanna von Hohenstaufen: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020144&tree=LEO
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Gauthier/Wautier II d'Avesnes Seigneur d’Avesnes, Condé, Leuze, Landrecies, Guise et Trélon, comte de Blois et Guise1,2,3,4,5
M, #20030, b. between 1172 and 1182, d. between January 1243 and 1244
Father | Jacques (?) seigneur d'Avesnes, Leuse, Conde and Guise6,2,3,4,5,7,8 b. c 1150, d. 7 Sep 1191 |
Mother | Adelvie/Ameline (?) de Guise6,9,2,3,4,5,8,10 b. 1159, d. 1207 |
Reference | EDV23 |
Last Edited | 7 Dec 2020 |
Gauthier/Wautier II d'Avesnes Seigneur d’Avesnes, Condé, Leuze, Landrecies, Guise et Trélon, comte de Blois et Guise was born between 1172 and 1182; Genealogy.EU (Flanders 3) says b. 1172-82.11,12,5 He married Marguerite de Blois Comtesse de Blois et de Châteaudun, co-comtesse de Chartres, daughter of Thibaut V "le Bon" de Blois comte de Blois, Dunois et Chartres and Adela/Alix Capet (?) of France, after 1200
; Her 3rd husband.13,12,14,3,4,5,15,16,17,18
Gauthier/Wautier II d'Avesnes Seigneur d’Avesnes, Condé, Leuze, Landrecies, Guise et Trélon, comte de Blois et Guise died between January 1243 and 1244; Genealogy EU says d. Jan 1243/44; Genealogics says d. aft 1243; Med Lands says d. 11 Jul [1243/46]; Racines et Histoire (Avesnes) says d. Jan 1243/46.11,2,3,4,5
; Per Med Lands:
"MARGUERITE ([1170]-12 Jul 1230). "…Filiis quoque et filiabus meis Theobaldo et Ludovico atque Henrico, Margarita et Ysabella" consented to the donation by "Theobaldus Blesensis comes, Francie senesscalus" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 1183[317]. "Hugo vicecomes Meldensis" donated property to Cavea monastery, with the consent of "domina Margarete uxore mea", by charter dated to [1185][318]. Her first marriage is confirmed by the charter dated [Jun/Aug] 1208 under which "Margareta uxor Galterii de Averna comitissa palatina Burgundie" confirmed an agreement between "Willelmum militem de Monasteriis" and Saint-Martin-des-Champs which also names "Hugo de Oysi filius Symonis vicecomitis, olim maritus meus"[319]. "Hugo de Oisiaco vicecomes Meldensis, castellanus Cameracensis" donated property to "ecclesiam B. Mariæ de Pratis", for the soul of "uxoris meæ Margaretæ", by charter dated 1189[320]. "Filiabus mei Margarita, Ysabella" consented to the donation by "Theobaldus comes Blesensis, Francie senesscalus" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 1190[321]. "…Philippo fratre et sororibus Marguerita, Isabella et Adelicia" consented to the donation by "Louis C. de Blois et de Clermont" to the abbey of l'Etoile by charter dated 1190[322]. William of Tyre (Continuator) records "la fille dou conte Thibaut de Blois" being the wife of "Otes dus de Borgoigne"[323]. "…Sororibus meis Margarita, Ysabella, Adelicis" consented to the donation by "Ludovicus comes Blesensis et Clarimontis" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 27 Jan 1196[324]. "…Sororibusque meis Margarita et Ysabella et Adelicia" consented to the confirmation by "Ludovicus Blesensis et Clarimontis comes" of the donation by "Gaufridus vicecomes Castriduni" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated Mar 1200[325]. The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "dominus Galterus filius [Jacobi] primogeniti" married "Margareta comitatus Blesensis hærede"[326]. "…Sororibus meis Margarita, Ysabella" consented to the donation by "Ludovicus Blesensis et Clarimontis comes…Iherosolimam proficiscens" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteadun by charter dated May 1202[327]. "Margareta uxor Galterii de Averna comitissa palatina Burgundie" confirmed an agreement between "Willelmum militem de Monasteriis" and Saint-Martin-des-Champs by charter dated [Jun/Aug] 1208 which also names "Hugo de Oysi filius Symonis vicecomitis, olim maritus meus"[328]. She succeeded her nephew in 1218 as Ctss de Blois et de Châteaudun. The necrology of the abbey of Vauduisant records the death "IV Id Jul" of "comitisse Blesensis Marguerite"[329]. The necrology of La Cour-Dieu records the death “IV Id Jul” of “comitissa Blesensis”[330].
"m firstly ([1183]) as his second wife, HUGUES [III] d'Oisy châtelain de Cambrai, son of SIMON d'Oisy, châtelain de Cambrai & his wife Ada de la Ferté-Ancoul (-29 Aug 1189).
"m secondly ([1190]) OTTO von Staufen Comte Palatin de Bourgogne, son of Emperor FRIEDRICH I "Barbarossa" & his second wife Beatrix Ctss Palatine de Bourgogne ([Jun/Jul] 1170-Besançon 13 Jan 1200, bur Besançon Saint-Etienne).
"m thirdly (after 1200) GAUTHIER [II] d'Avesnes Seigneur d'Avesnes, son of JACQUES Seigneur d'Avesnes & his wife Adeline de Guise (-[1243/46]). Comte de Blois et de Guise."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire (Blois-Chartres): “2) Marguerite de Blois ° ~1170 + 12/07/1230 comtesse de Blois et de Châteaudun (1218, succède à son neveu) (citée dans une charte de confirmation d’agrément avec Saint-Martin-des-Champs en 06-08/1208 ; souscrit une donation de son frère Louis à l’Abbaye de L’Etoile en1190 et une autre, du même, à l’Hôtel-Dieu de Châteaudun le 27/01/1196 ; & d’autres actes en 03/1200 & 05/1202)
ép. 1) 1183 ou ~1189 Hugues III d’Oisy, vicomte (Châtelain) de Cambrai + 29/08/1189 (fils de Simon d’Oisy, châtelain de Cambrai, et d’Ade de La Ferté-Ancoul (sous-Jouarre))
ép. 2) ~1190/92 Otto von (Hohen)Stauffen, comte Palatin de Bourgogne ° 06-07/1170 + 13/01/1200 (Besançon) (fils de l’Empereur Friedrich 1er «Barbarossa», Roi de Germanie, et de Béatrix, comtesse Palatine de Bourgogne
ép. 3) après 1200 Gautier (Wautier) II d’Avesnes, seigneur d’Avesnes, comte de Blois”.18
; Per Genealogy.EU (Blois 1): “G5. Marguerite, Cts de Blois et de Châteaudun, *ca 1170, +12.7.1230; 1m: ca 1183 Hugues III d'Oisy, Vcte de Cambrai (+1189/90); 2m: ca 1190 Otto von Hohenstaufen, Ct Palatine of Burgundy (+1200); 3m: after 1200 Gautier II d'Avesnes, Cte de Blois, de Guise, etc (+ca 1246)”.19
; This is the same person as ”Walter II of Avesnes” at Wikipedia and as ”Gautier II d'Avesnes” at Wikipédia (FR).20,21
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3/1:50.3 EDV-23.
; Per Racines et Histoire (Avesnes): “Wautier (Gauthier) II d’Avesnes ° ~1172/82 + 01/1243/46 seigneur d’Avesnes, Condé, Leuze, Landrecies, Guise et Trélon, comte de Blois (1218, par sa femme)
ép. après 1200 Marguerite, comtesse de Blois, co-comtesse de Chartres, comtesse de Blois (1218, succède à son neveu) ° ~1170 + 12/07/1230 (fille de Thibaud IV «Le Bon» de Blois et d’Alix de France ; veuve de 1) Hugues III d’Oisy, Châtelain de Cambrai (fils du vicomte Simon d’Oisy), Châtelain de Cambrai et de 2) Otto von Stauffen, comte palatin de Bourgogne) (cité dans une charte de donation de Thibaud de Blois à l’Hôtel-Dieu de Châteaudun 1183 ; témoin acte à Saint-Martin-des-Champs 06-08/1208)”.5
; Per Genealogy.EU (Flanders 3): “E1. Wautier II, sn d'Avesnes, Cte de Blois, de Guise, etc, *1172-82, +I.1243/44; m.after 1200 Cts Marguerite de Blois (*ca 1170, +12.7.1230)”.1
; Per Med Lands:
"GAUTHIER [II] d'Avesnes (-11 Jul [1243/46]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Galtherus [que] factus est comes Blesensis et…quatuor sorores comitissæ" as children of "Iacobo [filii Nicolao de Avenes]"[799]. The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis names "Walterum, Bouchardum, Jacobum et Guidonem" as the four sons of "Nicolai Plukelli filius primogenitus Jacobus" and his wife[800]. Seigneur d'Avesnes, de Guise, de Condé, de Leuze, de Landrechies et de Trélon. The Breve Chronicon Buciliensis records that “Adeluya domina Guisiæ” donated property to Bucilly in 1196 for the soul of “mariti sui Jacobi de Avenis”, with the consent of “Gualteri filii sui cæterorum liberorum suorum”[801]. Comte de Blois, in right of his wife. The necrology of La Cour-Dieu records the death “V Id Jul” of “Galterius de Avernis”[802].
"m (after 1200) as her third husband, MARGUERITE Ctss de Blois, widow firstly of HUGUES [III] d'Oisy Châtelain de Cambrai and secondly of OTTO von Staufen Comte Palatin de Bourgogne, daughter of THIBAUT IV Comte de Blois & his second wife Alix de France ([1170]-12 Jul 1230). "…Filiis quoque et filiabus meis Theobaldo et Ludovico atque Henrico, Margarita et Ysabella" consented to the donation by "Theobaldus Blesensis comes, Francie senesscalus" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 1183[803]. William of Tyre (Continuator) records "la fille dou conte Thibaut de Blois" being the wife of "Otes dus de Borgoigne"[804]. The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "dominus Galterus filius [Jacobi] primogeniti" married "Margareta comitatus Blesensis hærede"[805]. "Margareta uxor Galterii de Averna comitissa palatina Burgundie" confirm an agreement between "Willelmum militem de Monasteriis" and Saint-Martin-des-Champs by charter dated [Jun/Aug] 1208 which also names "Hugo de Oysi filius Symonis vicecomitis, olim maritus meus"[806]. “Guido de Dampetra...et Ioannis nepotis mei de monte Mirelli” notified that Blanche comtesse de Champagne was guarantor for “Hellium de Waurino et matrem eius” for “maritagio uxoris suæ...post decessum...Margaretæ uxoris Galteri de Auesnis” by charter dated Nov 1211[807]. The necrology of the abbey of Vauduisant records the death "IV Id Jul" of "comitisse Blesensis Marguerite"[808]. The necrology of La Cour-Dieu records the death “IV Id Jul” of “comitissa Blesensis”[809]."
Med Lands cites:
; Her 3rd husband.13,12,14,3,4,5,15,16,17,18
Gauthier/Wautier II d'Avesnes Seigneur d’Avesnes, Condé, Leuze, Landrecies, Guise et Trélon, comte de Blois et Guise died between January 1243 and 1244; Genealogy EU says d. Jan 1243/44; Genealogics says d. aft 1243; Med Lands says d. 11 Jul [1243/46]; Racines et Histoire (Avesnes) says d. Jan 1243/46.11,2,3,4,5
; Per Med Lands:
"MARGUERITE ([1170]-12 Jul 1230). "…Filiis quoque et filiabus meis Theobaldo et Ludovico atque Henrico, Margarita et Ysabella" consented to the donation by "Theobaldus Blesensis comes, Francie senesscalus" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 1183[317]. "Hugo vicecomes Meldensis" donated property to Cavea monastery, with the consent of "domina Margarete uxore mea", by charter dated to [1185][318]. Her first marriage is confirmed by the charter dated [Jun/Aug] 1208 under which "Margareta uxor Galterii de Averna comitissa palatina Burgundie" confirmed an agreement between "Willelmum militem de Monasteriis" and Saint-Martin-des-Champs which also names "Hugo de Oysi filius Symonis vicecomitis, olim maritus meus"[319]. "Hugo de Oisiaco vicecomes Meldensis, castellanus Cameracensis" donated property to "ecclesiam B. Mariæ de Pratis", for the soul of "uxoris meæ Margaretæ", by charter dated 1189[320]. "Filiabus mei Margarita, Ysabella" consented to the donation by "Theobaldus comes Blesensis, Francie senesscalus" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 1190[321]. "…Philippo fratre et sororibus Marguerita, Isabella et Adelicia" consented to the donation by "Louis C. de Blois et de Clermont" to the abbey of l'Etoile by charter dated 1190[322]. William of Tyre (Continuator) records "la fille dou conte Thibaut de Blois" being the wife of "Otes dus de Borgoigne"[323]. "…Sororibus meis Margarita, Ysabella, Adelicis" consented to the donation by "Ludovicus comes Blesensis et Clarimontis" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 27 Jan 1196[324]. "…Sororibusque meis Margarita et Ysabella et Adelicia" consented to the confirmation by "Ludovicus Blesensis et Clarimontis comes" of the donation by "Gaufridus vicecomes Castriduni" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated Mar 1200[325]. The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "dominus Galterus filius [Jacobi] primogeniti" married "Margareta comitatus Blesensis hærede"[326]. "…Sororibus meis Margarita, Ysabella" consented to the donation by "Ludovicus Blesensis et Clarimontis comes…Iherosolimam proficiscens" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteadun by charter dated May 1202[327]. "Margareta uxor Galterii de Averna comitissa palatina Burgundie" confirmed an agreement between "Willelmum militem de Monasteriis" and Saint-Martin-des-Champs by charter dated [Jun/Aug] 1208 which also names "Hugo de Oysi filius Symonis vicecomitis, olim maritus meus"[328]. She succeeded her nephew in 1218 as Ctss de Blois et de Châteaudun. The necrology of the abbey of Vauduisant records the death "IV Id Jul" of "comitisse Blesensis Marguerite"[329]. The necrology of La Cour-Dieu records the death “IV Id Jul” of “comitissa Blesensis”[330].
"m firstly ([1183]) as his second wife, HUGUES [III] d'Oisy châtelain de Cambrai, son of SIMON d'Oisy, châtelain de Cambrai & his wife Ada de la Ferté-Ancoul (-29 Aug 1189).
"m secondly ([1190]) OTTO von Staufen Comte Palatin de Bourgogne, son of Emperor FRIEDRICH I "Barbarossa" & his second wife Beatrix Ctss Palatine de Bourgogne ([Jun/Jul] 1170-Besançon 13 Jan 1200, bur Besançon Saint-Etienne).
"m thirdly (after 1200) GAUTHIER [II] d'Avesnes Seigneur d'Avesnes, son of JACQUES Seigneur d'Avesnes & his wife Adeline de Guise (-[1243/46]). Comte de Blois et de Guise."
Med Lands cites:
[317] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu XXV, p. 20.
[318] Toussaint du Plessis (1731), Tome II, Pièces justificatives, CLXIII, p. 75.
[319] Paris Saint-Martin-des-Champs III, 672, p. 273.
[320] Miraeus (Le Mire) (1723), Tome I, Notitia Ecclesiarum Belgii, CXV, p. 718.
[321] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu XXXII, p. 24.
[322] Chartes Vendômoises CXXIV, p. 157.
[323] William of Tyre Continuator XXIV.IX, p. 118.
[324] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu XLII, p. 29.
[325] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu LI, p. 35.
[326] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF, Tome XIII, p. 560.
[327] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu LXVII, p. 45.
[328] Paris Saint-Martin-des-Champs III, 672, p. 273.
[329] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Vauduisant, p. 55.
[330] Obituaires de Sens Tome III, Abbaye de la Cour-Dieu, Extraits des deux obituaires, p. 172.16
[318] Toussaint du Plessis (1731), Tome II, Pièces justificatives, CLXIII, p. 75.
[319] Paris Saint-Martin-des-Champs III, 672, p. 273.
[320] Miraeus (Le Mire) (1723), Tome I, Notitia Ecclesiarum Belgii, CXV, p. 718.
[321] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu XXXII, p. 24.
[322] Chartes Vendômoises CXXIV, p. 157.
[323] William of Tyre Continuator XXIV.IX, p. 118.
[324] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu XLII, p. 29.
[325] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu LI, p. 35.
[326] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF, Tome XIII, p. 560.
[327] Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu LXVII, p. 45.
[328] Paris Saint-Martin-des-Champs III, 672, p. 273.
[329] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Vauduisant, p. 55.
[330] Obituaires de Sens Tome III, Abbaye de la Cour-Dieu, Extraits des deux obituaires, p. 172.16
; Per Racines et Histoire (Blois-Chartres): “2) Marguerite de Blois ° ~1170 + 12/07/1230 comtesse de Blois et de Châteaudun (1218, succède à son neveu) (citée dans une charte de confirmation d’agrément avec Saint-Martin-des-Champs en 06-08/1208 ; souscrit une donation de son frère Louis à l’Abbaye de L’Etoile en1190 et une autre, du même, à l’Hôtel-Dieu de Châteaudun le 27/01/1196 ; & d’autres actes en 03/1200 & 05/1202)
ép. 1) 1183 ou ~1189 Hugues III d’Oisy, vicomte (Châtelain) de Cambrai + 29/08/1189 (fils de Simon d’Oisy, châtelain de Cambrai, et d’Ade de La Ferté-Ancoul (sous-Jouarre))
ép. 2) ~1190/92 Otto von (Hohen)Stauffen, comte Palatin de Bourgogne ° 06-07/1170 + 13/01/1200 (Besançon) (fils de l’Empereur Friedrich 1er «Barbarossa», Roi de Germanie, et de Béatrix, comtesse Palatine de Bourgogne
ép. 3) après 1200 Gautier (Wautier) II d’Avesnes, seigneur d’Avesnes, comte de Blois”.18
; Per Genealogy.EU (Blois 1): “G5. Marguerite, Cts de Blois et de Châteaudun, *ca 1170, +12.7.1230; 1m: ca 1183 Hugues III d'Oisy, Vcte de Cambrai (+1189/90); 2m: ca 1190 Otto von Hohenstaufen, Ct Palatine of Burgundy (+1200); 3m: after 1200 Gautier II d'Avesnes, Cte de Blois, de Guise, etc (+ca 1246)”.19
; This is the same person as ”Walter II of Avesnes” at Wikipedia and as ”Gautier II d'Avesnes” at Wikipédia (FR).20,21
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3/1:50.3 EDV-23.
; Per Racines et Histoire (Avesnes): “Wautier (Gauthier) II d’Avesnes ° ~1172/82 + 01/1243/46 seigneur d’Avesnes, Condé, Leuze, Landrecies, Guise et Trélon, comte de Blois (1218, par sa femme)
ép. après 1200 Marguerite, comtesse de Blois, co-comtesse de Chartres, comtesse de Blois (1218, succède à son neveu) ° ~1170 + 12/07/1230 (fille de Thibaud IV «Le Bon» de Blois et d’Alix de France ; veuve de 1) Hugues III d’Oisy, Châtelain de Cambrai (fils du vicomte Simon d’Oisy), Châtelain de Cambrai et de 2) Otto von Stauffen, comte palatin de Bourgogne) (cité dans une charte de donation de Thibaud de Blois à l’Hôtel-Dieu de Châteaudun 1183 ; témoin acte à Saint-Martin-des-Champs 06-08/1208)”.5
; Per Genealogy.EU (Flanders 3): “E1. Wautier II, sn d'Avesnes, Cte de Blois, de Guise, etc, *1172-82, +I.1243/44; m.after 1200 Cts Marguerite de Blois (*ca 1170, +12.7.1230)”.1
; Per Med Lands:
"GAUTHIER [II] d'Avesnes (-11 Jul [1243/46]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Galtherus [que] factus est comes Blesensis et…quatuor sorores comitissæ" as children of "Iacobo [filii Nicolao de Avenes]"[799]. The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis names "Walterum, Bouchardum, Jacobum et Guidonem" as the four sons of "Nicolai Plukelli filius primogenitus Jacobus" and his wife[800]. Seigneur d'Avesnes, de Guise, de Condé, de Leuze, de Landrechies et de Trélon. The Breve Chronicon Buciliensis records that “Adeluya domina Guisiæ” donated property to Bucilly in 1196 for the soul of “mariti sui Jacobi de Avenis”, with the consent of “Gualteri filii sui cæterorum liberorum suorum”[801]. Comte de Blois, in right of his wife. The necrology of La Cour-Dieu records the death “V Id Jul” of “Galterius de Avernis”[802].
"m (after 1200) as her third husband, MARGUERITE Ctss de Blois, widow firstly of HUGUES [III] d'Oisy Châtelain de Cambrai and secondly of OTTO von Staufen Comte Palatin de Bourgogne, daughter of THIBAUT IV Comte de Blois & his second wife Alix de France ([1170]-12 Jul 1230). "…Filiis quoque et filiabus meis Theobaldo et Ludovico atque Henrico, Margarita et Ysabella" consented to the donation by "Theobaldus Blesensis comes, Francie senesscalus" to Hôtel-Dieu, Châteaudun by charter dated 1183[803]. William of Tyre (Continuator) records "la fille dou conte Thibaut de Blois" being the wife of "Otes dus de Borgoigne"[804]. The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis records that "dominus Galterus filius [Jacobi] primogeniti" married "Margareta comitatus Blesensis hærede"[805]. "Margareta uxor Galterii de Averna comitissa palatina Burgundie" confirm an agreement between "Willelmum militem de Monasteriis" and Saint-Martin-des-Champs by charter dated [Jun/Aug] 1208 which also names "Hugo de Oysi filius Symonis vicecomitis, olim maritus meus"[806]. “Guido de Dampetra...et Ioannis nepotis mei de monte Mirelli” notified that Blanche comtesse de Champagne was guarantor for “Hellium de Waurino et matrem eius” for “maritagio uxoris suæ...post decessum...Margaretæ uxoris Galteri de Auesnis” by charter dated Nov 1211[807]. The necrology of the abbey of Vauduisant records the death "IV Id Jul" of "comitisse Blesensis Marguerite"[808]. The necrology of La Cour-Dieu records the death “IV Id Jul” of “comitissa Blesensis”[809]."
Med Lands cites:
[799] Chronica Albrici Monachi Trium Fontium 1168, MGH SS XXIII, p. 853.
[800] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, p. 560.
[801] Breve Chronicon Buciliensis, p. 16.
[802] Obituaires de Sens Tome III, Abbaye de la Cour-Dieu, Extraits des deux obituaires, p. 172.
[803] Belfort, A. de (ed.) (1881) Archives de la Maison-Dieu de Châteaudun (Paris, Châteaudun) (“Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu”) XXV, p. 20.
[804] WTC XXIV.IX, p. 118.
[805] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, p. 560.
[806] Depoin, J. (ed.) (1917) Recueil de chartes et documents de Saint-Martin-des-Champs, monastère parisien, Archives de la France monastique Tome XVIII (Paris) ("Paris St Martin-des-Champs") III, 672, p. 273.
[807] Chantereau le Febvre, L. (1662) Traité des Fiefs et de leur origine (Paris), Autres preuves par les Actes, p. 44.
[808] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Vauduisant, p. 55.
[809] Obituaires de Sens Tome III, Abbaye de la Cour-Dieu, Extraits des deux obituaires, p. 172.4
[800] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, p. 560.
[801] Breve Chronicon Buciliensis, p. 16.
[802] Obituaires de Sens Tome III, Abbaye de la Cour-Dieu, Extraits des deux obituaires, p. 172.
[803] Belfort, A. de (ed.) (1881) Archives de la Maison-Dieu de Châteaudun (Paris, Châteaudun) (“Châteaudun Hôtel-Dieu”) XXV, p. 20.
[804] WTC XXIV.IX, p. 118.
[805] Balduinus de Avennis Genealogia, RHGF XIII, p. 560.
[806] Depoin, J. (ed.) (1917) Recueil de chartes et documents de Saint-Martin-des-Champs, monastère parisien, Archives de la France monastique Tome XVIII (Paris) ("Paris St Martin-des-Champs") III, 672, p. 273.
[807] Chantereau le Febvre, L. (1662) Traité des Fiefs et de leur origine (Paris), Autres preuves par les Actes, p. 44.
[808] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.1, Abbaye de Vauduisant, p. 55.
[809] Obituaires de Sens Tome III, Abbaye de la Cour-Dieu, Extraits des deux obituaires, p. 172.4
Family | Marguerite de Blois Comtesse de Blois et de Châteaudun, co-comtesse de Chartres b. c 1170, d. 12 Jul 1230 |
Children |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 3 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders3.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Blois-Champagne.pdf, p. 8. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gautier II d'Avesnes: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020648&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#WautierIIAvesnesdied12431246. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille & seigneurs d’ Avesnes, p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avesnes.pdf
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- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#JacquesAvesnesdied1191
- [S2121] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 4 Jan 2007: "the house of Avesnes, and the advocates of Tournai"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/RWs6Dh0Y6uw/m/LdZiVfpelkoJ) to e-mail address, 4 Jan 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 4 Jan 2007."
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ameline de Guise: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020644&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Frlanders 3 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders3.html#W2
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avesnes.pdf, p. 4.
- [S1979] Douglas Richardson, "Mississippienne email 18 Oct 2005: "Grandchildren of Eleanor of Aquitaine"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 18 Oct 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Mississippienne email 18 Oct 2005."
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- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marguerite de Blois: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013715&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CENTRAL%20FRANCE.htm#MargueriteCtssBloisdied1230
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Blois 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/blois/blois1.html#MT4
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- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Blois 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/blois/blois1.html#H2
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- [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Gautier II d'Avesnes: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gautier_II_d%27Avesnes. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
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Marie (?) Cts de Blois, Dame d'Avesnes1,2
F, #20031, d. after 1241
Father | Gauthier/Wautier II d'Avesnes Seigneur d’Avesnes, Condé, Leuze, Landrecies, Guise et Trélon, comte de Blois et Guise1,3,4,5 b. bt 1172 - 1182, d. bt Jan 1243 - 1244 |
Mother | Marguerite de Blois Comtesse de Blois et de Châteaudun, co-comtesse de Chartres1,5,4,6 b. c 1170, d. 12 Jul 1230 |
Reference | EDV22 |
Last Edited | 18 Dec 2020 |
Marie (?) Cts de Blois, Dame d'Avesnes married Hugues V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, comte de Blois et de St.Pol, son of Gaucher III de Châtillon Comte de St. Pol, Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, Croissy, Crécy, Montjay, Crécy et Pierrefonds and Elisabeth (?) Comtesse de St. Pol, in April 1226
; his 2nd wife.1,7,2
Marie (?) Cts de Blois, Dame d'Avesnes died after 1241.1,2
EDV-22.
; his 2nd wife.1,7,2
Marie (?) Cts de Blois, Dame d'Avesnes died after 1241.1,2
EDV-22.
Family | Hugues V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, comte de Blois et de St.Pol b. b 1196, d. 9 Apr 1248 |
Children |
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Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 3 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders3.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avesnes.pdf, p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gautier II d'Avesnes: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020648&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/HAINAUT.htm#WautierIIAvesnesdied12431246. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille & seigneurs d’ Avesnes, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avesnes.pdf
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marguerite de Blois: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013715&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026506&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gaucher IV de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027579&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jean I de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027578&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy II de Châtillon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013386&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#GuyIIChatillonStPoldied1280
Hugues V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, comte de Blois et de St.Pol1,2
M, #20032, b. before 1196, d. 9 April 1248
Father | Gaucher III de Châtillon Comte de St. Pol, Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, Croissy, Crécy, Montjay, Crécy et Pierrefonds1,3,4,5,6,7 b. c 1166, d. Oct 1219 |
Mother | Elisabeth (?) Comtesse de St. Pol1,5,4,8 b. a 1179, d. b 1240 |
Reference | EDV22 |
Last Edited | 18 Dec 2020 |
Hugues V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, comte de Blois et de St.Pol married Mahaut (?) de Guines, daughter of Arnould II (?) Comte de Guînes, Châtelain de Bourbourg à Ardres, Seigneur d'Ardres et de Tourcoing and Béatrice de Bourbourg Châtelaine de Bourbourg,
; his 3rd wife.9,10 Hugues V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, comte de Blois et de St.Pol was born before 1196.11 He married Agnes de Bar, daughter of Thibault/Theobald I (Jean) (?) Comte de Bar-le-Duc, Mousson, Briey, Stenay, Longwy et Ligny and Ermesinde/Isabelle de Brienne, circa 1216
; his 1st wife.12,13,14 Hugues V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, comte de Blois et de St.Pol married Marie (?) Cts de Blois, Dame d'Avesnes, daughter of Gauthier/Wautier II d'Avesnes Seigneur d’Avesnes, Condé, Leuze, Landrecies, Guise et Trélon, comte de Blois et Guise and Marguerite de Blois Comtesse de Blois et de Châteaudun, co-comtesse de Chartres, in April 1226
; his 2nd wife.11,1,2
Hugues V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, comte de Blois et de St.Pol died on 9 April 1248.1,14
EDV-22.
; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 17, 18
2. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 167.1 Hugues V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, comte de Blois et de St.Pol was also known as Hugues de Chatillon Cte de St. Pol et de Blois.12
; his 3rd wife.9,10 Hugues V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, comte de Blois et de St.Pol was born before 1196.11 He married Agnes de Bar, daughter of Thibault/Theobald I (Jean) (?) Comte de Bar-le-Duc, Mousson, Briey, Stenay, Longwy et Ligny and Ermesinde/Isabelle de Brienne, circa 1216
; his 1st wife.12,13,14 Hugues V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, comte de Blois et de St.Pol married Marie (?) Cts de Blois, Dame d'Avesnes, daughter of Gauthier/Wautier II d'Avesnes Seigneur d’Avesnes, Condé, Leuze, Landrecies, Guise et Trélon, comte de Blois et Guise and Marguerite de Blois Comtesse de Blois et de Châteaudun, co-comtesse de Chartres, in April 1226
; his 2nd wife.11,1,2
Hugues V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, comte de Blois et de St.Pol died on 9 April 1248.1,14
EDV-22.
; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 17, 18
2. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 167.1 Hugues V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, comte de Blois et de St.Pol was also known as Hugues de Chatillon Cte de St. Pol et de Blois.12
Family 1 | Mahaut (?) de Guines d. 1262 |
Family 2 | Agnes de Bar b. 1189, d. b 1225 |
Family 3 | Marie (?) Cts de Blois, Dame d'Avesnes d. a 1241 |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026506&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avesnes.pdf, p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gaucher III de Châtillon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027534&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Bar, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille & seigneurs d’ Avesnes , p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avesnes.pdf
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#GaucherIIIChatillonStPoldied1219A. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Châtillon (-sur-Marne) & Saint-Pol, Blois, Porcien, etc., p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Chatillon.pdf
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elisabeth: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027535&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mahaut de Guines: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027581&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Guines page (Guines family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/guines.html
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 3 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders3.html
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Bar 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar1.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnès de Bar: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026505&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 5.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gaucher IV de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027579&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jean I de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027578&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy II de Châtillon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013386&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#GuyIIChatillonStPoldied1280
Gauthier/Gaucher IV de Châtillon1,2
M, #20033, d. 1261
Father | Hugues V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, comte de Blois et de St.Pol3,1 b. b 1196, d. 9 Apr 1248 |
Mother | Marie (?) Cts de Blois, Dame d'Avesnes1 d. a 1241 |
Reference | EDV22 |
Last Edited | 14 Aug 2019 |
Gauthier/Gaucher IV de Châtillon married Isabel de Villehardouin, daughter of Guillaume I de Villehardouin sn de Villy, Maréchal de Champagne and Marguerite "the Younger" de Mello, before 1248.4,1,2
Gauthier/Gaucher IV de Châtillon died in 1261.1
EDV-22.
; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 19
2. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 192.1
Gauthier/Gaucher IV de Châtillon died in 1261.1
EDV-22.
; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 19
2. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 192.1
Family | Isabel de Villehardouin b. c 1235, d. a Feb 1299 |
Children |
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gaucher IV de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027579&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Des Barres.pdf, p. 6. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026506&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabeau de Villehardouin: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027580&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027582&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marie de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027583&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gaucher V de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027413&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Dreux-Beu.pdf, p. 2.
Isabel de Villehardouin1,2
F, #20034, b. circa 1235, d. after February 1299
Father | Guillaume I de Villehardouin sn de Villy, Maréchal de Champagne3,1,2 d. 8 Jun 1246 |
Mother | Marguerite "the Younger" de Mello4,1,2 b. 1218, d. 21 Feb 1254 |
Reference | EDV22 |
Last Edited | 15 Aug 2019 |
Isabel de Villehardouin was born circa 1235.2 She married Gauthier/Gaucher IV de Châtillon, son of Hugues V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, comte de Blois et de St.Pol and Marie (?) Cts de Blois, Dame d'Avesnes, before 1248.1,5,2
Isabel de Villehardouin died after February 1299.1
EDV-22.
; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 113,VII 19
2. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 192.1
Isabel de Villehardouin died after February 1299.1
EDV-22.
; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 113,VII 19
2. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 192.1
Family | Gauthier/Gaucher IV de Châtillon d. 1261 |
Children |
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabeau de Villehardouin: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027580&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Des Barres.pdf, p. 6. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume I de Villehardouin: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00110902&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marguerite de Mello: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00110903&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gaucher IV de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027579&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027582&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marie de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027583&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gaucher V de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027413&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Dreux-Beu.pdf, p. 2.
Gaucher/Guy V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, Cécy-en-Brie, Pontarcy, comte de Porcien, connétable de France1,2,3,4,5
M, #20035, b. circa 1249, d. 1329
Father | Gauthier/Gaucher IV de Châtillon6,2,7 d. 1261 |
Mother | Isabel de Villehardouin8,2,7 b. c 1235, d. a Feb 1299 |
Reference | EDV21 |
Last Edited | 14 Aug 2020 |
Gaucher/Guy V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, Cécy-en-Brie, Pontarcy, comte de Porcien, connétable de France was born circa 1249.2 He married Isabelle de Dreux Dame de Nesle-en-Tardenois, daughter of Robert I de Dreux vicomte de Beu, seigneur de Nesle et de Longueville, vicomte de Châteaudun and Isabelle dite «La Chambellane» de Villebéon Dame de la Chapelle-Gautier-en-Brie, between 1276 and 1281
; his 1st wife; Genealogy.EU says m. 1276/81; Leo van de Pas says m. 1276.1,9,2,10,3,4,5,7 Gaucher/Guy V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, Cécy-en-Brie, Pontarcy, comte de Porcien, connétable de France married Hélissende de Vergy, daughter of Jean I de Vergy Sire de Fouvent, de Champlitte et d'Autrey, sénéchal de Bourgogne and Marguerite de Noyers, before 1301
; his 2nd wife; her 2nd husband.2,11,4,5,7 Gaucher/Guy V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, Cécy-en-Brie, Pontarcy, comte de Porcien, connétable de France married Isabelle de Rumigny Heiress of Rumigny, Florennes & Boves, duchesse douairière de Lorraine, daughter of Hugues II de Rumigny Seigneur de Boves, Florennes, et Aubenton and Philippine d’Oulche dame de Beveren et Martigny, in March 1313
; his 3rd wife; her 2nd husband.12,2,5,7
Gaucher/Guy V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, Cécy-en-Brie, Pontarcy, comte de Porcien, connétable de France died in 1329; Racines et Histoire says d. 1322.2,1,3,4,7
; Leo van de Pas cites:
1. Encyclopedie Genealogique des Maisons Souveraines du Monde Paris, VIII 1963,IX 1964,XII 1966., Docteur Gaston Sirjean, Reference: 257
2. Kwartieren van Hendrik III en Willem de Rijke van Nassau Geldrop, 1965, G. F. de Roo van Alderwerelt, Reference: 504
3. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 192
4. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 19.2 EDV-21. Gaucher/Guy V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, Cécy-en-Brie, Pontarcy, comte de Porcien, connétable de France was also known as Gauthier V de Chatillon.
; Per Genealogics:
"Gaucher V de Châtillon was born about 1249, the son of Gaucher IV de Châtillon and Isabeau de Villehardouin. In 1276 he married Isabelle de Dreux, dame de Nesle-en-Tardenois, daughter of Robert I de Dreux, vicomte de Châteaudun and Isabeau de Villebéon, dame de la Chapelle. Isabelle died in 1300 and in February 1301 Gaucher married Helisende de Vergy, daughter of Jean I de Vergy, sire de Fouvent, de Champlitte et d'Autrey, and Marguerite de Noyers. After Helisende's death in 1312, Gaucher married Isabelle de Rumigny, heiress of Rumigny, Florennes and Boves. Gaucher was the father of seven children, of whom four sons and two daughters would have progeny.
"Gaucher was constable of France under five successive kings of France: Philippe IV, Louis X, Jean I, Philippe V, and Charles IV. During Philippe IV's campaign of 1303 to win Flanders back from the Flemish rebels led by Wilhelm of Jülich, Gaucher, as constable of France, was with the small garrison of the town of St. Omer besieged by the much larger force of Wilhelm of Jülich. The French advanced out of St. Omer to give battle, and fought the Flemish to a stalemate which forced them to abandon their attempt to take the town.
"Gaucher made a famous intervention in the Regency Council convened a few weeks after the death of Louis X on 5 June 1316. Louis' consort Clemence was pregnant, making it impossible to know Louis' successor until the time the child was born. If the child were a son, he would succeed Louis as king; had the child been a daughter, there would be a question between Louis' (eldest) daughter Jeanne and his next brother Philippe. In July 1316 Gaucher wrote:
"'In truth, it would be madness to allow a girl to ascend the throne! Can you see a woman or damsel, menstruating each month, large with child each year, commanding armies? And reigning over her vassals, when she cannot even control the passions in her nature? No, I cannot see it, and I say it to you, France is too noble kingdom to fall to the female line and be given over to a girl. The lilies will not slip away!'
"A little over a hundred year later Jeanne d'Arc stood beside Charles VII at his coronation on 17 July 1429, and not quite 250 years later Elizabeth I ascended the throne of England in 1558. In the event, Clemence's child was a son, who reigned for five days as Jean I, and was succeeded by Philippe V, brother of Louis X.
"Gaucher was lord of Crécy, and in 1290 he became lord of Châtillon-sur-Marne by exchange. However in 1303 a new agreement allotted to him the countship of Porcean, while Châtillon reverted to the domain of the counts of Champagne. His château of Porcean on the river Aisne, near the town of Bethel, was given to him by Philippe IV in 1308. By his first marriage with Isabelle de Dreux, widow of Thibault II, duke of Lorraine, Gaucher obtained the town of Neufchatel in Lorraine; he minted his own coins there, and at Ive on the Moselle, near Nancy.
"Gaucher died in 1329.
; his 1st wife; Genealogy.EU says m. 1276/81; Leo van de Pas says m. 1276.1,9,2,10,3,4,5,7 Gaucher/Guy V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, Cécy-en-Brie, Pontarcy, comte de Porcien, connétable de France married Hélissende de Vergy, daughter of Jean I de Vergy Sire de Fouvent, de Champlitte et d'Autrey, sénéchal de Bourgogne and Marguerite de Noyers, before 1301
; his 2nd wife; her 2nd husband.2,11,4,5,7 Gaucher/Guy V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, Cécy-en-Brie, Pontarcy, comte de Porcien, connétable de France married Isabelle de Rumigny Heiress of Rumigny, Florennes & Boves, duchesse douairière de Lorraine, daughter of Hugues II de Rumigny Seigneur de Boves, Florennes, et Aubenton and Philippine d’Oulche dame de Beveren et Martigny, in March 1313
; his 3rd wife; her 2nd husband.12,2,5,7
Gaucher/Guy V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, Cécy-en-Brie, Pontarcy, comte de Porcien, connétable de France died in 1329; Racines et Histoire says d. 1322.2,1,3,4,7
; Leo van de Pas cites:
1. Encyclopedie Genealogique des Maisons Souveraines du Monde Paris, VIII 1963,IX 1964,XII 1966., Docteur Gaston Sirjean, Reference: 257
2. Kwartieren van Hendrik III en Willem de Rijke van Nassau Geldrop, 1965, G. F. de Roo van Alderwerelt, Reference: 504
3. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 192
4. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 19.2 EDV-21. Gaucher/Guy V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, Cécy-en-Brie, Pontarcy, comte de Porcien, connétable de France was also known as Gauthier V de Chatillon.
; Per Genealogics:
"Gaucher V de Châtillon was born about 1249, the son of Gaucher IV de Châtillon and Isabeau de Villehardouin. In 1276 he married Isabelle de Dreux, dame de Nesle-en-Tardenois, daughter of Robert I de Dreux, vicomte de Châteaudun and Isabeau de Villebéon, dame de la Chapelle. Isabelle died in 1300 and in February 1301 Gaucher married Helisende de Vergy, daughter of Jean I de Vergy, sire de Fouvent, de Champlitte et d'Autrey, and Marguerite de Noyers. After Helisende's death in 1312, Gaucher married Isabelle de Rumigny, heiress of Rumigny, Florennes and Boves. Gaucher was the father of seven children, of whom four sons and two daughters would have progeny.
"Gaucher was constable of France under five successive kings of France: Philippe IV, Louis X, Jean I, Philippe V, and Charles IV. During Philippe IV's campaign of 1303 to win Flanders back from the Flemish rebels led by Wilhelm of Jülich, Gaucher, as constable of France, was with the small garrison of the town of St. Omer besieged by the much larger force of Wilhelm of Jülich. The French advanced out of St. Omer to give battle, and fought the Flemish to a stalemate which forced them to abandon their attempt to take the town.
"Gaucher made a famous intervention in the Regency Council convened a few weeks after the death of Louis X on 5 June 1316. Louis' consort Clemence was pregnant, making it impossible to know Louis' successor until the time the child was born. If the child were a son, he would succeed Louis as king; had the child been a daughter, there would be a question between Louis' (eldest) daughter Jeanne and his next brother Philippe. In July 1316 Gaucher wrote:
"'In truth, it would be madness to allow a girl to ascend the throne! Can you see a woman or damsel, menstruating each month, large with child each year, commanding armies? And reigning over her vassals, when she cannot even control the passions in her nature? No, I cannot see it, and I say it to you, France is too noble kingdom to fall to the female line and be given over to a girl. The lilies will not slip away!'
"A little over a hundred year later Jeanne d'Arc stood beside Charles VII at his coronation on 17 July 1429, and not quite 250 years later Elizabeth I ascended the throne of England in 1558. In the event, Clemence's child was a son, who reigned for five days as Jean I, and was succeeded by Philippe V, brother of Louis X.
"Gaucher was lord of Crécy, and in 1290 he became lord of Châtillon-sur-Marne by exchange. However in 1303 a new agreement allotted to him the countship of Porcean, while Châtillon reverted to the domain of the counts of Champagne. His château of Porcean on the river Aisne, near the town of Bethel, was given to him by Philippe IV in 1308. By his first marriage with Isabelle de Dreux, widow of Thibault II, duke of Lorraine, Gaucher obtained the town of Neufchatel in Lorraine; he minted his own coins there, and at Ive on the Moselle, near Nancy.
"Gaucher died in 1329.
Family 1 | Isabelle de Dreux Dame de Nesle-en-Tardenois b. 1264, d. bt 19 Apr 1300 - 29 Apr 1300 |
Children |
|
Family 2 | Hélissende de Vergy b. c 1265, d. c 1312 |
Child |
Family 3 | Isabelle de Rumigny Heiress of Rumigny, Florennes & Boves, duchesse douairière de Lorraine b. Jun 1263, d. 1322 |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Beaumont 3 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/beaumont/beaumont3.html#MP
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gaucher V de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027413&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Chateaudun-Vicomtes.pdf, p. 10. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Des Barres.pdf, p. 6.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Donzy-Vergy.pdf, p. 7.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gaucher IV de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027579&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Dreux-Beu.pdf, p. 2.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabeau de Villehardouin: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027580&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabelle de Dreux: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027506&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Helisende de Vergy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027466&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabelle de Rumigny: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026219&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marie de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174454&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues de Châtillon, Seigneur de Rozoy-en-Thierache: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00072799&tree=LEO
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Brienne 1 page (de Brienne Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne1.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Des Barres.pdf, p. 7.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jeanne de Châtillon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00064489&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#JeanneChatillonMGauthierBrienneAthens. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy de Châtillon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026225&tree=LEO
Isabelle de Dreux Dame de Nesle-en-Tardenois1,2,3,4,5
F, #20036, b. 1264, d. between 19 April 1300 and 29 April 1300
Father | Robert I de Dreux vicomte de Beu, seigneur de Nesle et de Longueville, vicomte de Châteaudun2,3,4,5 b. 1217, d. 1265 |
Mother | Isabelle dite «La Chambellane» de Villebéon Dame de la Chapelle-Gautier-en-Brie2,6,3,4,5 b. 1240, d. c 1282 |
Reference | EDV21 |
Last Edited | 14 Aug 2020 |
Isabelle de Dreux Dame de Nesle-en-Tardenois was born in 1264.1,2,4,7,5 She married Gaucher/Guy V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, Cécy-en-Brie, Pontarcy, comte de Porcien, connétable de France, son of Gauthier/Gaucher IV de Châtillon and Isabel de Villehardouin, between 1276 and 1281
; his 1st wife; Genealogy.EU says m. 1276/81; Leo van de Pas says m. 1276.1,2,8,3,4,7,9,5
Isabelle de Dreux Dame de Nesle-en-Tardenois died between 19 April 1300 and 29 April 1300.1,2,4,7,5
EDV-21.
; Leo van de Pas cites: Encyclopedie Genealogique des Maisons Souveraines du Monde Paris, VIII 1963,IX 1964,XII 1966., Docteur Gaston Sirjean, Reference: 257.3
; his 1st wife; Genealogy.EU says m. 1276/81; Leo van de Pas says m. 1276.1,2,8,3,4,7,9,5
Isabelle de Dreux Dame de Nesle-en-Tardenois died between 19 April 1300 and 29 April 1300.1,2,4,7,5
EDV-21.
; Leo van de Pas cites: Encyclopedie Genealogique des Maisons Souveraines du Monde Paris, VIII 1963,IX 1964,XII 1966., Docteur Gaston Sirjean, Reference: 257.3
Family | Gaucher/Guy V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, Cécy-en-Brie, Pontarcy, comte de Porcien, connétable de France b. c 1249, d. 1329 |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Beaumont 3 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/beaumont/beaumont3.html#MP
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Capet 6 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet6.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabelle de Dreux: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027506&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Chateaudun-Vicomtes.pdf, p. 10. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Dreux-Beu.pdf, p. 2.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabeau de Villebéon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00139784&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Des Barres.pdf, p. 6.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gaucher V de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027413&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Donzy-Vergy.pdf, p. 7.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marie de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00174454&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues de Châtillon, Seigneur de Rozoy-en-Thierache: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00072799&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Des Barres.pdf, p. 7.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jeanne de Châtillon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00064489&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#JeanneChatillonMGauthierBrienneAthens. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Jeanne de Châtillon Comtesse de Brienne et de Lecce, Duchesse d'Athènes1,2,3,4,5
F, #20037, b. circa 1285, d. 16 June 1354
Father | Gaucher/Guy V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, Cécy-en-Brie, Pontarcy, comte de Porcien, connétable de France6,2,1,3,4 b. c 1249, d. 1329 |
Mother | Isabelle de Dreux Dame de Nesle-en-Tardenois7,1,3,4 b. 1264, d. bt 19 Apr 1300 - 29 Apr 1300 |
Reference | EDV20 |
Last Edited | 14 Aug 2020 |
Jeanne de Châtillon Comtesse de Brienne et de Lecce, Duchesse d'Athènes was born circa 1285.1,8 She married Gauthier V (?) Comte de Brienne et di Lecce, Duke of Athens, son of Hugues (?) Comte de Brienne, Cte de Lecce, Signore de Conversano and Isabelle (?) de la Roche-sur-l'Ognon, Lady of Thebes, before October 1305.2,1,9,10,3,4,8
Jeanne de Châtillon Comtesse de Brienne et de Lecce, Duchesse d'Athènes died on 16 June 1354; Genealogics says d. 16 Jun 1354; Racines et Histoire (Châtillon) says d. 16 Jan 1354.1,3,4,11,8
EDV-20 GKJ-20.
Reference: Genalogics cites:
; This is the same person as ”Joanna of Châtillon” at Wikipedia, as ”Jeanne de Châtillon (1285-1354)” at Wikipédia (FR), and as ”Juana de Châtillon” at Wikipedia (ES).12,5,13
; Per Med Lands:
"JEANNE de Châtillon (-16 Jan 1354, bur Troyes Saint-Jacques). "Gauchiers de Chasteillon cuens de Porcien et connestaubles de France" acknowledged the obligation to pay “Gautier Conte de Brene et de Lyche” for the marriage of “Jehanne sa femme nostre...fille” by letter dated Apr 1307, which also refers to his own marriage contract with “Helissan de Vergy Comtesse de Porcien et de Vaudemont”[228]. The testament of "Gautiers dux d’Atheinnes cuens de Brienne et de Liche" is dated 1312 (N.S.) and names "…nostre…compaigne Jehanne de Chasteilon duchesse d’Atheinnes, comtesse de Brienne et de Liche"[229]. After her husband was killed, she escaped to Italy with her son and from there returned to France[230]. "Duchisse Athenarum et Comitisse Brene et Licie" is included in the list of Barons "de Romania" with whom Venice maintained relations in 1313[231], demonstrating that the republic of Venice continued to recognise her title and position even after she had left Greece. A list of foundations at Troyes records the memory "16 Jan" of "madame Jeanne de Chastillon, épouse de Gaucher Comte de Brienne et de Liche, duc d'Athènes, décédée le 16 Jan 1353…inhume aux Jacobins"[232]. An epitaph at Troyes records the burial of "Madame Ieanne de Chastillon duchesse d’Athenes, comtesse de Brene et de Liche…fille de monsieur Gaucjer seigneur de Chastillon comte de Porcien jadis connestable de France" who died 16 Jan 1354[233].
"m (before Oct 1305) GAUTHIER de Brienne Conte di Lecce, son of HUGUES de Brienne Conte di Lecce & his first wife Isabelle de la Roche of Athens ([1278]-killed in battle Kephissos River, near Thebes 15 Mar 1312, his head bur Lecce Church of Santa Croce). Duke of Athens 1308."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Racines et Histoire (Brienne 1): “1) Gautier V de Brienne +x 15/03/1311 (Copaïs, Thèbes) comte de Brienne et de Lecce, duc d’Athènes
ép. avant 10/1305 Jeanne de Châtillon ° ~1285 + 1354 (fille de Gaucher V (II) de Châtillon, comte de Porcien)”
Per Racines et Histoire (Châtillon): “1) Jeanne de Châtillon-Porcien ° ~1285 + 16/01/1354
ép. dès 10/1305 Gautier V, comte de Brienne (10) et de Lecce (Italie) duc d’Athènes (1308) + 15/03/1311 (près Thèbes, Grèce) (fils d’Hugues, comte de Brienne et Lecce, et d’Isabelle de La Rochesur-L’Ognon, dame de Karitaina (Grèce)
postérité Brienne”.11,8
; Per Genealogy.EU (Brienne 1): “I1. [1m.] Cte Gautier V de Brienne et di Lecce, Duke of Athens, etc, +k.a.against a Catalonian army nr Thebes 1311; m.before.10.1305 Jeanne (+1354) dau.of Gaucher de Chatillon, Cte de Porcien”.14
; Per Med Lands:
"GAUTHIER [V] de Brienne, son of HUGUES de Brienne Conte di Lecce & his first wife Isabelle de la Roche of Athens ([1278]-killed in battle Kephissos River, near Thebes 15 Mar 1312, his head bur Lecce Church of Santa Croce[304]). The Lignages d'Outremer name "Gautier et Agnes" as the children of "Hugue…cuens de Brene" and his wife "Ysabeau la fille dou duc d'Athanes, qui avoit esté feme dou seignor de Karitaine"[305]. The Istoria of Marino Sanudo Torsello records that "[il figlio]…[del] conte de Brenna" and his wife "la figlia del signor della Rocia" was killed "a Valmiro della compagnia de Catelani"[306]. He succeeded his mother as Lord of ½ Karitaina and Thebes. He succeeded his father as Conte di Lecce, Conte di Conversano. He succeeded his first cousin (and uterine half-brother) in 1308 as GAUTHIER Duke of Athens, his accession being confirmed by the High Court of Achaia when it rejected the claim of his first cousin Eschiva Ibelin[307]. The Istoria of Marino Sanudo Torsello records that "la nobil terra d´Attene e quell Ducato" was inherited by "il conte de Brenna" after the death of Guy[308]. Gauthier hired the Catalan Company to conquer Thessaly, but subsequently refused to pay them for their services. He was killed fighting the Catalan Company who took control of Athens. The testament of "Gautiers dux d´Atheinnes cuens de Brienne et de Liche" is dated 1312 (N.S.) and names "Jehanette nostre suer…Madame nostre marâtre…nostre…compaigne Jehanne de Chasteilon duchesse d´Atheinnes, comtesse de Brienne et de Liche", chooses burial "auf Daufenins", and appoints "Messire Jehanz Truilarz nostre…coisins" as executor in Apulia[309]. In 1312, the Company chose as their suzerain Federigo King of Sicily [Aragon] who appointed his son as titular duke of Athens[310].
"m (before Oct 1305) JEANNE de Châtillon, daughter of GAUCHER [V] de Châtillon-sur-Marne Comte de Porcien & his first wife Isabelle de Dreux [Capet] (-16 Jan 1354, bur Troyes Saint-Jacques). "Gauchiers de Chasteillon cuens de Porcien et connestaubles de France" acknowledged the obligation to pay “Gautier Conte de Brene et de Lyche” for the marriage of “Jehanne sa femme nostre...fille” by letter dated Apr 1307, which also refers to his own marriage contract with “Helissan de Vergy Comtesse de Porcien et de Vaudemont”[311]. The testament of "Gautiers dux d´Atheinnes cuens de Brienne et de Liche" is dated 1312 (N.S.) and names "…nostre…compaigne Jehanne de Chasteilon duchesse d´Atheinnes, comtesse de Brienne et de Liche"[312]. After her husband was killed, she escaped to Italy with her son and from there returned to France[313]. "Duchisse Athenarum et Comitisse Brene et Licie" is included in the list of Barons "de Romania" with whom Venice maintained relations in 1313[314], demonstrating that the republic of Venice continued to recognise her title and position even after she had left Greece. A list of foundations at Troyes records the memory "16 Jan" of "madame Jeanne de Chastillon, épouse de Gaucher Comte de Brienne et de Liche, duc d'Athènes, décédée le 16 Jan 1353…inhume aux Jacobins"[315]."
Med Lands cites:
Jeanne de Châtillon Comtesse de Brienne et de Lecce, Duchesse d'Athènes died on 16 June 1354; Genealogics says d. 16 Jun 1354; Racines et Histoire (Châtillon) says d. 16 Jan 1354.1,3,4,11,8
EDV-20 GKJ-20.
Reference: Genalogics cites:
1. The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H. 192.
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 7:19.3
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 7:19.3
; This is the same person as ”Joanna of Châtillon” at Wikipedia, as ”Jeanne de Châtillon (1285-1354)” at Wikipédia (FR), and as ”Juana de Châtillon” at Wikipedia (ES).12,5,13
; Per Med Lands:
"JEANNE de Châtillon (-16 Jan 1354, bur Troyes Saint-Jacques). "Gauchiers de Chasteillon cuens de Porcien et connestaubles de France" acknowledged the obligation to pay “Gautier Conte de Brene et de Lyche” for the marriage of “Jehanne sa femme nostre...fille” by letter dated Apr 1307, which also refers to his own marriage contract with “Helissan de Vergy Comtesse de Porcien et de Vaudemont”[228]. The testament of "Gautiers dux d’Atheinnes cuens de Brienne et de Liche" is dated 1312 (N.S.) and names "…nostre…compaigne Jehanne de Chasteilon duchesse d’Atheinnes, comtesse de Brienne et de Liche"[229]. After her husband was killed, she escaped to Italy with her son and from there returned to France[230]. "Duchisse Athenarum et Comitisse Brene et Licie" is included in the list of Barons "de Romania" with whom Venice maintained relations in 1313[231], demonstrating that the republic of Venice continued to recognise her title and position even after she had left Greece. A list of foundations at Troyes records the memory "16 Jan" of "madame Jeanne de Chastillon, épouse de Gaucher Comte de Brienne et de Liche, duc d'Athènes, décédée le 16 Jan 1353…inhume aux Jacobins"[232]. An epitaph at Troyes records the burial of "Madame Ieanne de Chastillon duchesse d’Athenes, comtesse de Brene et de Liche…fille de monsieur Gaucjer seigneur de Chastillon comte de Porcien jadis connestable de France" who died 16 Jan 1354[233].
"m (before Oct 1305) GAUTHIER de Brienne Conte di Lecce, son of HUGUES de Brienne Conte di Lecce & his first wife Isabelle de la Roche of Athens ([1278]-killed in battle Kephissos River, near Thebes 15 Mar 1312, his head bur Lecce Church of Santa Croce). Duke of Athens 1308."
Med Lands cites:
[228] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 203.
[229] Arbois de Jubainville (1855), p. 332.
[230] Miller (1908), p. 230.
[231] Hopf (1873), Introduction, p. xxiv, and Dynastæ Græciæ, p. 177.
[232] Troyes Necrologies, 2 Obituaire de Saint-Etienne, III Fondations établies en l'église royale de Troyes, p. 271.
[233] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 214.4
[229] Arbois de Jubainville (1855), p. 332.
[230] Miller (1908), p. 230.
[231] Hopf (1873), Introduction, p. xxiv, and Dynastæ Græciæ, p. 177.
[232] Troyes Necrologies, 2 Obituaire de Saint-Etienne, III Fondations établies en l'église royale de Troyes, p. 271.
[233] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 214.4
; Per Racines et Histoire (Brienne 1): “1) Gautier V de Brienne +x 15/03/1311 (Copaïs, Thèbes) comte de Brienne et de Lecce, duc d’Athènes
ép. avant 10/1305 Jeanne de Châtillon ° ~1285 + 1354 (fille de Gaucher V (II) de Châtillon, comte de Porcien)”
Per Racines et Histoire (Châtillon): “1) Jeanne de Châtillon-Porcien ° ~1285 + 16/01/1354
ép. dès 10/1305 Gautier V, comte de Brienne (10) et de Lecce (Italie) duc d’Athènes (1308) + 15/03/1311 (près Thèbes, Grèce) (fils d’Hugues, comte de Brienne et Lecce, et d’Isabelle de La Rochesur-L’Ognon, dame de Karitaina (Grèce)
postérité Brienne”.11,8
; Per Genealogy.EU (Brienne 1): “I1. [1m.] Cte Gautier V de Brienne et di Lecce, Duke of Athens, etc, +k.a.against a Catalonian army nr Thebes 1311; m.before.10.1305 Jeanne (+1354) dau.of Gaucher de Chatillon, Cte de Porcien”.14
; Per Med Lands:
"GAUTHIER [V] de Brienne, son of HUGUES de Brienne Conte di Lecce & his first wife Isabelle de la Roche of Athens ([1278]-killed in battle Kephissos River, near Thebes 15 Mar 1312, his head bur Lecce Church of Santa Croce[304]). The Lignages d'Outremer name "Gautier et Agnes" as the children of "Hugue…cuens de Brene" and his wife "Ysabeau la fille dou duc d'Athanes, qui avoit esté feme dou seignor de Karitaine"[305]. The Istoria of Marino Sanudo Torsello records that "[il figlio]…[del] conte de Brenna" and his wife "la figlia del signor della Rocia" was killed "a Valmiro della compagnia de Catelani"[306]. He succeeded his mother as Lord of ½ Karitaina and Thebes. He succeeded his father as Conte di Lecce, Conte di Conversano. He succeeded his first cousin (and uterine half-brother) in 1308 as GAUTHIER Duke of Athens, his accession being confirmed by the High Court of Achaia when it rejected the claim of his first cousin Eschiva Ibelin[307]. The Istoria of Marino Sanudo Torsello records that "la nobil terra d´Attene e quell Ducato" was inherited by "il conte de Brenna" after the death of Guy[308]. Gauthier hired the Catalan Company to conquer Thessaly, but subsequently refused to pay them for their services. He was killed fighting the Catalan Company who took control of Athens. The testament of "Gautiers dux d´Atheinnes cuens de Brienne et de Liche" is dated 1312 (N.S.) and names "Jehanette nostre suer…Madame nostre marâtre…nostre…compaigne Jehanne de Chasteilon duchesse d´Atheinnes, comtesse de Brienne et de Liche", chooses burial "auf Daufenins", and appoints "Messire Jehanz Truilarz nostre…coisins" as executor in Apulia[309]. In 1312, the Company chose as their suzerain Federigo King of Sicily [Aragon] who appointed his son as titular duke of Athens[310].
"m (before Oct 1305) JEANNE de Châtillon, daughter of GAUCHER [V] de Châtillon-sur-Marne Comte de Porcien & his first wife Isabelle de Dreux [Capet] (-16 Jan 1354, bur Troyes Saint-Jacques). "Gauchiers de Chasteillon cuens de Porcien et connestaubles de France" acknowledged the obligation to pay “Gautier Conte de Brene et de Lyche” for the marriage of “Jehanne sa femme nostre...fille” by letter dated Apr 1307, which also refers to his own marriage contract with “Helissan de Vergy Comtesse de Porcien et de Vaudemont”[311]. The testament of "Gautiers dux d´Atheinnes cuens de Brienne et de Liche" is dated 1312 (N.S.) and names "…nostre…compaigne Jehanne de Chasteilon duchesse d´Atheinnes, comtesse de Brienne et de Liche"[312]. After her husband was killed, she escaped to Italy with her son and from there returned to France[313]. "Duchisse Athenarum et Comitisse Brene et Licie" is included in the list of Barons "de Romania" with whom Venice maintained relations in 1313[314], demonstrating that the republic of Venice continued to recognise her title and position even after she had left Greece. A list of foundations at Troyes records the memory "16 Jan" of "madame Jeanne de Chastillon, épouse de Gaucher Comte de Brienne et de Liche, duc d'Athènes, décédée le 16 Jan 1353…inhume aux Jacobins"[315]."
Med Lands cites:
[304] Miller (1908), pp. 227-8.
[305] Lignages d'Outremer, Le Vaticanus Latinus 4789, CCC.XXXIII, p. 90.
[306] Marino Sanudo Torsello Historia del Regno di Romania, II, p. 117.
[307] Miller (1908), p. 221.
[308] Marino Sanudo Torsello Historia del Regno di Romania, III, p. 136.
[309] D´Arbois de Jubainville (1855), p. 332.
[310] Fine (1994), p. 242, and Miller (1908), pp. 235-6.
[311] Du Chesne, A. (1621) Histoire de la Maison de Chastillon-sur-Marne (Paris) (“Du Chesne (1621) Châtillon”), Preuves, p. 203.
[312] D´Arbois de Jubainville, H. (1855) Voyage paléographique dans le département de l´Aube (Troyes, Paris), p. 332.
[313] Miller (1908), p. 230.
[314] Hopf, C. (1873) Chroniques gréco-romanes inédites ou peu connues (Berlin), Introduction, p. xxiv, and Dynastæ Græciæ, p. 177.
[315] Troyes Necrologies, 2 Obituaire de Saint-Etienne, III Fondations établies en l'église royale de Troyes, p. 271.10
[305] Lignages d'Outremer, Le Vaticanus Latinus 4789, CCC.XXXIII, p. 90.
[306] Marino Sanudo Torsello Historia del Regno di Romania, II, p. 117.
[307] Miller (1908), p. 221.
[308] Marino Sanudo Torsello Historia del Regno di Romania, III, p. 136.
[309] D´Arbois de Jubainville (1855), p. 332.
[310] Fine (1994), p. 242, and Miller (1908), pp. 235-6.
[311] Du Chesne, A. (1621) Histoire de la Maison de Chastillon-sur-Marne (Paris) (“Du Chesne (1621) Châtillon”), Preuves, p. 203.
[312] D´Arbois de Jubainville, H. (1855) Voyage paléographique dans le département de l´Aube (Troyes, Paris), p. 332.
[313] Miller (1908), p. 230.
[314] Hopf, C. (1873) Chroniques gréco-romanes inédites ou peu connues (Berlin), Introduction, p. xxiv, and Dynastæ Græciæ, p. 177.
[315] Troyes Necrologies, 2 Obituaire de Saint-Etienne, III Fondations établies en l'église royale de Troyes, p. 271.10
Family | Gauthier V (?) Comte de Brienne et di Lecce, Duke of Athens b. c 1272, d. 15 Mar 1311 |
Children |
Citations
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Des Barres.pdf, p. 7. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brienne 1 page (de Brienne Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne1.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jeanne de Châtillon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00064489&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#JeanneChatillonMGauthierBrienneAthens. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Jeanne de Châtillon (1285-1354): https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_de_Ch%C3%A2tillon_(1285-1354). Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gaucher V de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027413&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabelle de Dreux: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027506&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Châtillon (-sur-Marne) & Saint-Pol, Blois, Porcien, etc., p. 16: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Chatillon.pdf
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gauthier V: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00064486&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LATIN%20LORDSHIPS%20IN%20GREECE.htm#GauthierBriennedied1311B
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Brienne, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Brienne.pdf
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanna_of_Ch%C3%A2tillon. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S4760] Wikipédia - Llaenciclopedia libre, online https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Portada, Juana de Châtillon: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juana_de_Ch%C3%A2tillon. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia (ES).
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, De Brienne Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne1.html#G4
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabeau: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00064487&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Enghien.pdf, p. 5.
Gauthier V (?) Comte de Brienne et di Lecce, Duke of Athens1,2,3,4,5
M, #20038, b. circa 1272, d. 15 March 1311
Father | Hugues (?) Comte de Brienne, Cte de Lecce, Signore de Conversano1,6,4,5,7,8 b. c 1236, d. 8 Aug 1296 |
Mother | Isabelle (?) de la Roche-sur-l'Ognon, Lady of Thebes9,1,4,5,8,10 d. b 1291 |
Reference | GKJ20 |
Last Edited | 15 Dec 2020 |
Gauthier V (?) Comte de Brienne et di Lecce, Duke of Athens was born circa 1272 at Brienne-le-Château, Departement de l'Aube, Champagne-Ardenne, France (now); Genealogics says b. ca 1272; Med Lands says b. 1278.4,5 He married Jeanne de Châtillon Comtesse de Brienne et de Lecce, Duchesse d'Athènes, daughter of Gaucher/Guy V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, Cécy-en-Brie, Pontarcy, comte de Porcien, connétable de France and Isabelle de Dreux Dame de Nesle-en-Tardenois, before October 1305.1,3,4,5,11,12,13
Gauthier V (?) Comte de Brienne et di Lecce, Duke of Athens died on 15 March 1311 at Cephissus River (near Thebes), Greece (now); killed in battle against a Catalonian army nr Thebes; Genealogics says d. 15 Mar 1311; Med Lands says d. 15 Mar 1312.1,3,4,5
; Per Med Lands:
"JEANNE de Châtillon (-16 Jan 1354, bur Troyes Saint-Jacques). "Gauchiers de Chasteillon cuens de Porcien et connestaubles de France" acknowledged the obligation to pay “Gautier Conte de Brene et de Lyche” for the marriage of “Jehanne sa femme nostre...fille” by letter dated Apr 1307, which also refers to his own marriage contract with “Helissan de Vergy Comtesse de Porcien et de Vaudemont”[228]. The testament of "Gautiers dux d’Atheinnes cuens de Brienne et de Liche" is dated 1312 (N.S.) and names "…nostre…compaigne Jehanne de Chasteilon duchesse d’Atheinnes, comtesse de Brienne et de Liche"[229]. After her husband was killed, she escaped to Italy with her son and from there returned to France[230]. "Duchisse Athenarum et Comitisse Brene et Licie" is included in the list of Barons "de Romania" with whom Venice maintained relations in 1313[231], demonstrating that the republic of Venice continued to recognise her title and position even after she had left Greece. A list of foundations at Troyes records the memory "16 Jan" of "madame Jeanne de Chastillon, épouse de Gaucher Comte de Brienne et de Liche, duc d'Athènes, décédée le 16 Jan 1353…inhume aux Jacobins"[232]. An epitaph at Troyes records the burial of "Madame Ieanne de Chastillon duchesse d’Athenes, comtesse de Brene et de Liche…fille de monsieur Gaucjer seigneur de Chastillon comte de Porcien jadis connestable de France" who died 16 Jan 1354[233].
"m (before Oct 1305) GAUTHIER de Brienne Conte di Lecce, son of HUGUES de Brienne Conte di Lecce & his first wife Isabelle de la Roche of Athens ([1278]-killed in battle Kephissos River, near Thebes 15 Mar 1312, his head bur Lecce Church of Santa Croce). Duke of Athens 1308."
Med Lands cites:
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Genealogics:
“Gauthier V, comte de Brienne, was born in Brienne-le-Château, the son of Hugues, comte de Brienne, conte di Lecce, and Isabelle de La Roche-sur-l'Ognon, heiress of Thebes, daughter of Guy I de La Roche-sur-l'Ognon, duke of Athens. He was the heir of the Brienne claim to the kingdom of Jerusalem and of Cyprus, as well as to Taranto and Sicily.
“Gauthier V spent his youth as a hostage in Sicily, in the castle of Agosta. On the death of his father Hugues in 1296, Gauthier inherited the titles of Count of Brienne, Conversano and Lecce. Like his father, he took up arms in the service of Naples, but was captured in an ambush at Gagliano in 1300. He was freed in 1302 with the signing of the Treaty of Caltabellota.
“Before October 1305 Gauthier married Jeanne de Châtillon, daughter of Gaucher V de Châtillon, seigneur de Châtillon, comte de Porcean, and Isabelle de Dreux, dame de Nesle-en-Tardenois. Gauthier and Jeanne had two children: Gauthier VI de Brienne, his successor as count of Brienne and Lecce and lord of Argos and Nauplia, as well as the titular duke of Athens; and Isabeau de Brienne, who married Wautier d'Enghien and succeeded her brother on his death.
“The death of his mother's first cousin Guy II de La Roche in 1308 brought Gauthier V the duchy of Athens. There he found himself hard pressed by the despot of Epirus, the emperor Andronicus II and the lord of Vlachia. In 1310 he hired the Catalan Company, then ravaging the Byzantine empire, to fight the Greeks encroaching on his territory. After the Company had successfully reduced his enemies, he attempted to expel it from Athens with its soldiers' pay in arrears. When the Company refused this, Gauthier marched out with a strong force of French knights from Athens, the Morea and Naples, and Greek foot soldiers from Athens. Gauthier's army met the Catalans at the Battle of Halmyros on the river Cephissus in Boeotia on 15 March 1311. The Catalans won a devastating victory, killing Gauthier and almost all of his chivalry, and seizing his duchy of Athens, excepting only the lordship of Argos and Nauplia. His son Gauthier VI de Brienne succeeded him in all his titles; the Catalan Company nominated one of the surviving knights, Roger Deslaur, as its leader and new duke of Athens by conquest.”.14
; This is the same person as ”Walter V, Count of Brienne” at Wikipedia, as ”Gautier V de Brienne” at Wikipédia (FR), and as ”Gualterio V de Brienne” at Wikipedia (ES).15,16,17
; Per Periphery of France: Outremer: "An interesting episode in the history of Athens was: the seizure of Athens by the Catalan Company in 1311. This was a mercenary band from Aragón that had been fighting for the Emperors of Romania. They mutinied and ravaged the area, ending up at Athens, where the Duke Walter [Gauthier V] hired them in 1310. They then murdered Walter in 1311 and took over the Duchy. Before long, sons of King Frederick II of Sicily, brother of King James of Aragón, succeeded as Dukes, but then sovereignty began to be exercised by Kings of Sicily themselves, starting with Louis. The Vicars-General of Athens have what usually look like Spanish names and so must largely be of Aragonese derivation.“.2 GKJ-20.
; Per Genealogy.EU (Brienne 1): “I1. [1m.] Cte Gautier V de Brienne et di Lecce, Duke of Athens, etc, +k.a.against a Catalonian army nr Thebes 1311; m.before.10.1305 Jeanne (+1354) dau.of Gaucher de Chatillon, Cte de Porcien”.18
; Per Racines et Histoire (Brienne 1): “1) Gautier V de Brienne +x 15/03/1311 (Copaïs, Thèbes) comte de Brienne et de Lecce, duc d’Athènes
ép. avant 10/1305 Jeanne de Châtillon ° ~1285 + 1354 (fille de Gaucher V (II) de Châtillon, comte de Porcien)”
Per Racines et Histoire (Châtillon): “1) Jeanne de Châtillon-Porcien ° ~1285 + 16/01/1354
ép. dès 10/1305 Gautier V, comte de Brienne (10) et de Lecce (Italie) duc d’Athènes (1308) + 15/03/1311 (près Thèbes, Grèce) (fils d’Hugues, comte de Brienne et Lecce, et d’Isabelle de La Rochesur-L’Ognon, dame de Karitaina (Grèce)
postérité Brienne”.19,13
; Per Med Lands:
"GAUTHIER [V] de Brienne, son of HUGUES de Brienne Conte di Lecce & his first wife Isabelle de la Roche of Athens ([1278]-killed in battle Kephissos River, near Thebes 15 Mar 1312, his head bur Lecce Church of Santa Croce[304]). The Lignages d'Outremer name "Gautier et Agnes" as the children of "Hugue…cuens de Brene" and his wife "Ysabeau la fille dou duc d'Athanes, qui avoit esté feme dou seignor de Karitaine"[305]. The Istoria of Marino Sanudo Torsello records that "[il figlio]…[del] conte de Brenna" and his wife "la figlia del signor della Rocia" was killed "a Valmiro della compagnia de Catelani"[306]. He succeeded his mother as Lord of ½ Karitaina and Thebes. He succeeded his father as Conte di Lecce, Conte di Conversano. He succeeded his first cousin (and uterine half-brother) in 1308 as GAUTHIER Duke of Athens, his accession being confirmed by the High Court of Achaia when it rejected the claim of his first cousin Eschiva Ibelin[307]. The Istoria of Marino Sanudo Torsello records that "la nobil terra d´Attene e quell Ducato" was inherited by "il conte de Brenna" after the death of Guy[308]. Gauthier hired the Catalan Company to conquer Thessaly, but subsequently refused to pay them for their services. He was killed fighting the Catalan Company who took control of Athens. The testament of "Gautiers dux d´Atheinnes cuens de Brienne et de Liche" is dated 1312 (N.S.) and names "Jehanette nostre suer…Madame nostre marâtre…nostre…compaigne Jehanne de Chasteilon duchesse d´Atheinnes, comtesse de Brienne et de Liche", chooses burial "auf Daufenins", and appoints "Messire Jehanz Truilarz nostre…coisins" as executor in Apulia[309]. In 1312, the Company chose as their suzerain Federigo King of Sicily [Aragon] who appointed his son as titular duke of Athens[310].
"m (before Oct 1305) JEANNE de Châtillon, daughter of GAUCHER [V] de Châtillon-sur-Marne Comte de Porcien & his first wife Isabelle de Dreux [Capet] (-16 Jan 1354, bur Troyes Saint-Jacques). "Gauchiers de Chasteillon cuens de Porcien et connestaubles de France" acknowledged the obligation to pay “Gautier Conte de Brene et de Lyche” for the marriage of “Jehanne sa femme nostre...fille” by letter dated Apr 1307, which also refers to his own marriage contract with “Helissan de Vergy Comtesse de Porcien et de Vaudemont”[311]. The testament of "Gautiers dux d´Atheinnes cuens de Brienne et de Liche" is dated 1312 (N.S.) and names "…nostre…compaigne Jehanne de Chasteilon duchesse d´Atheinnes, comtesse de Brienne et de Liche"[312]. After her husband was killed, she escaped to Italy with her son and from there returned to France[313]. "Duchisse Athenarum et Comitisse Brene et Licie" is included in the list of Barons "de Romania" with whom Venice maintained relations in 1313[314], demonstrating that the republic of Venice continued to recognise her title and position even after she had left Greece. A list of foundations at Troyes records the memory "16 Jan" of "madame Jeanne de Chastillon, épouse de Gaucher Comte de Brienne et de Liche, duc d'Athènes, décédée le 16 Jan 1353…inhume aux Jacobins"[315]."
Med Lands cites:
See attached map of the Duchy of Athens in the 14th century (from Wikipedia: De Greece in 1278.svg: Cplakidas (discusión · contribs.)derivative work: rowanwindwhistler (discusión) - Greece in 1278.svg, CC BY-SA 4.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=57159440) between 1308 and 1311.6,20 He was Señor de Argos y Nauplia between 1308 and 1311 at Greece (now).17
Gauthier V (?) Comte de Brienne et di Lecce, Duke of Athens died on 15 March 1311 at Cephissus River (near Thebes), Greece (now); killed in battle against a Catalonian army nr Thebes; Genealogics says d. 15 Mar 1311; Med Lands says d. 15 Mar 1312.1,3,4,5
; Per Med Lands:
"JEANNE de Châtillon (-16 Jan 1354, bur Troyes Saint-Jacques). "Gauchiers de Chasteillon cuens de Porcien et connestaubles de France" acknowledged the obligation to pay “Gautier Conte de Brene et de Lyche” for the marriage of “Jehanne sa femme nostre...fille” by letter dated Apr 1307, which also refers to his own marriage contract with “Helissan de Vergy Comtesse de Porcien et de Vaudemont”[228]. The testament of "Gautiers dux d’Atheinnes cuens de Brienne et de Liche" is dated 1312 (N.S.) and names "…nostre…compaigne Jehanne de Chasteilon duchesse d’Atheinnes, comtesse de Brienne et de Liche"[229]. After her husband was killed, she escaped to Italy with her son and from there returned to France[230]. "Duchisse Athenarum et Comitisse Brene et Licie" is included in the list of Barons "de Romania" with whom Venice maintained relations in 1313[231], demonstrating that the republic of Venice continued to recognise her title and position even after she had left Greece. A list of foundations at Troyes records the memory "16 Jan" of "madame Jeanne de Chastillon, épouse de Gaucher Comte de Brienne et de Liche, duc d'Athènes, décédée le 16 Jan 1353…inhume aux Jacobins"[232]. An epitaph at Troyes records the burial of "Madame Ieanne de Chastillon duchesse d’Athenes, comtesse de Brene et de Liche…fille de monsieur Gaucjer seigneur de Chastillon comte de Porcien jadis connestable de France" who died 16 Jan 1354[233].
"m (before Oct 1305) GAUTHIER de Brienne Conte di Lecce, son of HUGUES de Brienne Conte di Lecce & his first wife Isabelle de la Roche of Athens ([1278]-killed in battle Kephissos River, near Thebes 15 Mar 1312, his head bur Lecce Church of Santa Croce). Duke of Athens 1308."
Med Lands cites:
[228] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 203.
[229] Arbois de Jubainville (1855), p. 332.
[230] Miller (1908), p. 230.
[231] Hopf (1873), Introduction, p. xxiv, and Dynastæ Græciæ, p. 177.
[232] Troyes Necrologies, 2 Obituaire de Saint-Etienne, III Fondations établies en l'église royale de Troyes, p. 271.
[233] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 214.12
[229] Arbois de Jubainville (1855), p. 332.
[230] Miller (1908), p. 230.
[231] Hopf (1873), Introduction, p. xxiv, and Dynastæ Græciæ, p. 177.
[232] Troyes Necrologies, 2 Obituaire de Saint-Etienne, III Fondations établies en l'église royale de Troyes, p. 271.
[233] Duchesne (1621) Châtillon, Preuves, p. 214.12
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H. 192.
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:682.4
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:682.4
; Per Genealogics:
“Gauthier V, comte de Brienne, was born in Brienne-le-Château, the son of Hugues, comte de Brienne, conte di Lecce, and Isabelle de La Roche-sur-l'Ognon, heiress of Thebes, daughter of Guy I de La Roche-sur-l'Ognon, duke of Athens. He was the heir of the Brienne claim to the kingdom of Jerusalem and of Cyprus, as well as to Taranto and Sicily.
“Gauthier V spent his youth as a hostage in Sicily, in the castle of Agosta. On the death of his father Hugues in 1296, Gauthier inherited the titles of Count of Brienne, Conversano and Lecce. Like his father, he took up arms in the service of Naples, but was captured in an ambush at Gagliano in 1300. He was freed in 1302 with the signing of the Treaty of Caltabellota.
“Before October 1305 Gauthier married Jeanne de Châtillon, daughter of Gaucher V de Châtillon, seigneur de Châtillon, comte de Porcean, and Isabelle de Dreux, dame de Nesle-en-Tardenois. Gauthier and Jeanne had two children: Gauthier VI de Brienne, his successor as count of Brienne and Lecce and lord of Argos and Nauplia, as well as the titular duke of Athens; and Isabeau de Brienne, who married Wautier d'Enghien and succeeded her brother on his death.
“The death of his mother's first cousin Guy II de La Roche in 1308 brought Gauthier V the duchy of Athens. There he found himself hard pressed by the despot of Epirus, the emperor Andronicus II and the lord of Vlachia. In 1310 he hired the Catalan Company, then ravaging the Byzantine empire, to fight the Greeks encroaching on his territory. After the Company had successfully reduced his enemies, he attempted to expel it from Athens with its soldiers' pay in arrears. When the Company refused this, Gauthier marched out with a strong force of French knights from Athens, the Morea and Naples, and Greek foot soldiers from Athens. Gauthier's army met the Catalans at the Battle of Halmyros on the river Cephissus in Boeotia on 15 March 1311. The Catalans won a devastating victory, killing Gauthier and almost all of his chivalry, and seizing his duchy of Athens, excepting only the lordship of Argos and Nauplia. His son Gauthier VI de Brienne succeeded him in all his titles; the Catalan Company nominated one of the surviving knights, Roger Deslaur, as its leader and new duke of Athens by conquest.”.14
; This is the same person as ”Walter V, Count of Brienne” at Wikipedia, as ”Gautier V de Brienne” at Wikipédia (FR), and as ”Gualterio V de Brienne” at Wikipedia (ES).15,16,17
; Per Periphery of France: Outremer: "An interesting episode in the history of Athens was: the seizure of Athens by the Catalan Company in 1311. This was a mercenary band from Aragón that had been fighting for the Emperors of Romania. They mutinied and ravaged the area, ending up at Athens, where the Duke Walter [Gauthier V] hired them in 1310. They then murdered Walter in 1311 and took over the Duchy. Before long, sons of King Frederick II of Sicily, brother of King James of Aragón, succeeded as Dukes, but then sovereignty began to be exercised by Kings of Sicily themselves, starting with Louis. The Vicars-General of Athens have what usually look like Spanish names and so must largely be of Aragonese derivation.“.2 GKJ-20.
; Per Genealogy.EU (Brienne 1): “I1. [1m.] Cte Gautier V de Brienne et di Lecce, Duke of Athens, etc, +k.a.against a Catalonian army nr Thebes 1311; m.before.10.1305 Jeanne (+1354) dau.of Gaucher de Chatillon, Cte de Porcien”.18
; Per Racines et Histoire (Brienne 1): “1) Gautier V de Brienne +x 15/03/1311 (Copaïs, Thèbes) comte de Brienne et de Lecce, duc d’Athènes
ép. avant 10/1305 Jeanne de Châtillon ° ~1285 + 1354 (fille de Gaucher V (II) de Châtillon, comte de Porcien)”
Per Racines et Histoire (Châtillon): “1) Jeanne de Châtillon-Porcien ° ~1285 + 16/01/1354
ép. dès 10/1305 Gautier V, comte de Brienne (10) et de Lecce (Italie) duc d’Athènes (1308) + 15/03/1311 (près Thèbes, Grèce) (fils d’Hugues, comte de Brienne et Lecce, et d’Isabelle de La Rochesur-L’Ognon, dame de Karitaina (Grèce)
postérité Brienne”.19,13
; Per Med Lands:
"GAUTHIER [V] de Brienne, son of HUGUES de Brienne Conte di Lecce & his first wife Isabelle de la Roche of Athens ([1278]-killed in battle Kephissos River, near Thebes 15 Mar 1312, his head bur Lecce Church of Santa Croce[304]). The Lignages d'Outremer name "Gautier et Agnes" as the children of "Hugue…cuens de Brene" and his wife "Ysabeau la fille dou duc d'Athanes, qui avoit esté feme dou seignor de Karitaine"[305]. The Istoria of Marino Sanudo Torsello records that "[il figlio]…[del] conte de Brenna" and his wife "la figlia del signor della Rocia" was killed "a Valmiro della compagnia de Catelani"[306]. He succeeded his mother as Lord of ½ Karitaina and Thebes. He succeeded his father as Conte di Lecce, Conte di Conversano. He succeeded his first cousin (and uterine half-brother) in 1308 as GAUTHIER Duke of Athens, his accession being confirmed by the High Court of Achaia when it rejected the claim of his first cousin Eschiva Ibelin[307]. The Istoria of Marino Sanudo Torsello records that "la nobil terra d´Attene e quell Ducato" was inherited by "il conte de Brenna" after the death of Guy[308]. Gauthier hired the Catalan Company to conquer Thessaly, but subsequently refused to pay them for their services. He was killed fighting the Catalan Company who took control of Athens. The testament of "Gautiers dux d´Atheinnes cuens de Brienne et de Liche" is dated 1312 (N.S.) and names "Jehanette nostre suer…Madame nostre marâtre…nostre…compaigne Jehanne de Chasteilon duchesse d´Atheinnes, comtesse de Brienne et de Liche", chooses burial "auf Daufenins", and appoints "Messire Jehanz Truilarz nostre…coisins" as executor in Apulia[309]. In 1312, the Company chose as their suzerain Federigo King of Sicily [Aragon] who appointed his son as titular duke of Athens[310].
"m (before Oct 1305) JEANNE de Châtillon, daughter of GAUCHER [V] de Châtillon-sur-Marne Comte de Porcien & his first wife Isabelle de Dreux [Capet] (-16 Jan 1354, bur Troyes Saint-Jacques). "Gauchiers de Chasteillon cuens de Porcien et connestaubles de France" acknowledged the obligation to pay “Gautier Conte de Brene et de Lyche” for the marriage of “Jehanne sa femme nostre...fille” by letter dated Apr 1307, which also refers to his own marriage contract with “Helissan de Vergy Comtesse de Porcien et de Vaudemont”[311]. The testament of "Gautiers dux d´Atheinnes cuens de Brienne et de Liche" is dated 1312 (N.S.) and names "…nostre…compaigne Jehanne de Chasteilon duchesse d´Atheinnes, comtesse de Brienne et de Liche"[312]. After her husband was killed, she escaped to Italy with her son and from there returned to France[313]. "Duchisse Athenarum et Comitisse Brene et Licie" is included in the list of Barons "de Romania" with whom Venice maintained relations in 1313[314], demonstrating that the republic of Venice continued to recognise her title and position even after she had left Greece. A list of foundations at Troyes records the memory "16 Jan" of "madame Jeanne de Chastillon, épouse de Gaucher Comte de Brienne et de Liche, duc d'Athènes, décédée le 16 Jan 1353…inhume aux Jacobins"[315]."
Med Lands cites:
[304] Miller (1908), pp. 227-8.
[305] Lignages d'Outremer, Le Vaticanus Latinus 4789, CCC.XXXIII, p. 90.
[306] Marino Sanudo Torsello Historia del Regno di Romania, II, p. 117.
[307] Miller (1908), p. 221.
[308] Marino Sanudo Torsello Historia del Regno di Romania, III, p. 136.
[309] D´Arbois de Jubainville (1855), p. 332.
[310] Fine (1994), p. 242, and Miller (1908), pp. 235-6.
[311] Du Chesne, A. (1621) Histoire de la Maison de Chastillon-sur-Marne (Paris) (“Du Chesne (1621) Châtillon”), Preuves, p. 203.
[312] D´Arbois de Jubainville, H. (1855) Voyage paléographique dans le département de l´Aube (Troyes, Paris), p. 332.
[313] Miller (1908), p. 230.
[314] Hopf, C. (1873) Chroniques gréco-romanes inédites ou peu connues (Berlin), Introduction, p. xxiv, and Dynastæ Græciæ, p. 177.
[315] Troyes Necrologies, 2 Obituaire de Saint-Etienne, III Fondations établies en l'église royale de Troyes, p. 271.5
He was Conde de Brienne, Conversano y Lecce between 1296 and 1311.17 He was Duke of Athens[305] Lignages d'Outremer, Le Vaticanus Latinus 4789, CCC.XXXIII, p. 90.
[306] Marino Sanudo Torsello Historia del Regno di Romania, II, p. 117.
[307] Miller (1908), p. 221.
[308] Marino Sanudo Torsello Historia del Regno di Romania, III, p. 136.
[309] D´Arbois de Jubainville (1855), p. 332.
[310] Fine (1994), p. 242, and Miller (1908), pp. 235-6.
[311] Du Chesne, A. (1621) Histoire de la Maison de Chastillon-sur-Marne (Paris) (“Du Chesne (1621) Châtillon”), Preuves, p. 203.
[312] D´Arbois de Jubainville, H. (1855) Voyage paléographique dans le département de l´Aube (Troyes, Paris), p. 332.
[313] Miller (1908), p. 230.
[314] Hopf, C. (1873) Chroniques gréco-romanes inédites ou peu connues (Berlin), Introduction, p. xxiv, and Dynastæ Græciæ, p. 177.
[315] Troyes Necrologies, 2 Obituaire de Saint-Etienne, III Fondations établies en l'église royale de Troyes, p. 271.5
See attached map of the Duchy of Athens in the 14th century (from Wikipedia: De Greece in 1278.svg: Cplakidas (discusión · contribs.)derivative work: rowanwindwhistler (discusión) - Greece in 1278.svg, CC BY-SA 4.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=57159440) between 1308 and 1311.6,20 He was Señor de Argos y Nauplia between 1308 and 1311 at Greece (now).17
Family | Jeanne de Châtillon Comtesse de Brienne et de Lecce, Duchesse d'Athènes b. c 1285, d. 16 Jun 1354 |
Children |
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brienne 1 page (de Brienne Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne1.html
- [S1559] The Periphery of Francia: Outremer - Kings of Jerusalem and Cyprus,
Counts of Edessa, Princes of Antioch, Counts of Tripoli, Kings of Thessalonica, Dukes of Athens, Princes of Achaea, and the Grand Masters of the Military Monastic Orders, online The Periphery of Francia: Outremer, https://www.friesian.com/outremer.htm#edessa. Hereinafter cited as http://www.friesian.com/outremer.htm#edessa - [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Des Barres.pdf, p. 7. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gauthier V: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00064486&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LATIN%20LORDSHIPS%20IN%20GREECE.htm#GauthierBriennedied1311B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1559] http://www.friesian.com/outremer.htm#edessa, online The Periphery of Francia: Outremer.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00064485&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambrien.htm#HuguesBrienneLeccedied1296
- [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I32360
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabelle de La Roche-sur-l'Ognon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00093476&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jeanne de Châtillon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00064489&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/champorret.htm#JeanneChatillonMGauthierBrienneAthens
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Châtillon (-sur-Marne) & Saint-Pol, Blois, Porcien, etc., p. 16: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Chatillon.pdf
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabeau: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00064487&tree=LEO
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_V,_Count_of_Brienne. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Gautier V de Brienne: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gautier_V_de_Brienne. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
- [S4760] Wikipédia - Llaenciclopedia libre, online https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Portada, Gualterio V de Brienne: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gualterio_V_de_Brienne. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia (ES).
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, De Brienne Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne1.html#G4
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Brienne, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Brienne.pdf
- [S4760] Wikipedia (ES), online https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Portada, https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gualterio_V_de_Brienne#/media/Archivo:Greece_in_1278-es.svg
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Enghien.pdf, p. 5.
Isabelle dite «La Belle Hélène» de Brienne dame de Ramerupt, Nevele et Machault, comtesse de Brienne, di Lecce e di Conversano1,2,3
F, #20039, b. circa 1305, d. 28 December 1360
Father | Gauthier V (?) Comte de Brienne et di Lecce, Duke of Athens4,1,3,5,6,7 b. c 1272, d. 15 Mar 1311 |
Mother | Jeanne de Châtillon Comtesse de Brienne et de Lecce, Duchesse d'Athènes1,2,3,5,8,7 b. c 1285, d. 16 Jun 1354 |
Reference | EDV19 |
Last Edited | 14 Aug 2020 |
Isabelle dite «La Belle Hélène» de Brienne dame de Ramerupt, Nevele et Machault, comtesse de Brienne, di Lecce e di Conversano was born circa 1305.3,5 She married Gauthier (Wauthier) III d'Enghien Sire d'Enghien, de Tubize, de Lembeek, son of Gauthier (Wauthier) II d'Enghien chevalier, seigneur d’Enghien, avoué de Tubize and Yolande (?) de Flandres, in January 1321.1,9,2,3,5
Isabelle dite «La Belle Hélène» de Brienne dame de Ramerupt, Nevele et Machault, comtesse de Brienne, di Lecce e di Conversano died on 28 December 1360.1,2,3,5
EDV-19 GKJ-19.
; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 192
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 79altimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 192.2
Isabelle dite «La Belle Hélène» de Brienne dame de Ramerupt, Nevele et Machault, comtesse de Brienne, di Lecce e di Conversano died on 28 December 1360.1,2,3,5
EDV-19 GKJ-19.
; Leo van de Pas cites: 1. The Plantagenet Ancestry Baltimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 192
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 79altimore, 1975. , Lt.Col. W. H. Turton, Reference: 192.2
Family | Gauthier (Wauthier) III d'Enghien Sire d'Enghien, de Tubize, de Lembeek b. 5 Jun 1302, d. c 16 Oct 1345 |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Brienne 1 page (de Brienne Family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne1.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabeau: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00064487&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Des Barres.pdf, p. 7. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabeau: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00064487&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Enghien.pdf, p. 5.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gauthier V: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00064486&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LATIN%20LORDSHIPS%20IN%20GREECE.htm#GauthierBriennedied1311B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jeanne de Châtillon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00064489&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Wautier III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00064488&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jean d'Enghien: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106860&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Enghien.pdf, p. 6.
Guy III de Châtillon Comte de St. Pol1,2
M, #20040, b. 1265, d. 6 April 1317
Father | Guy II de Châtillon comte de Blois et de Saint-Pol3,4,5,6,7 b. a 1226, d. 12 Mar 1289 |
Mother | Mathilde/Mahaut/Maud (?) of Brabant, Countess of Artois1,8,9,10,11,5,4,3,7 b. 14 Jun 1224, d. 29 Sep 1288 |
Reference | EDV20 |
Last Edited | 18 Dec 2020 |
Guy III de Châtillon Comte de St. Pol was born in 1265 at Guînes, Departement de Pas-de-Calais, Hauts-de-France, France (now);
Per van de Pas "This is obviously Guy (Guido) III de Chatillon, Count of St Pol who I >> have as born in 1265, married in 1292, died in 1317." Find A Grave says he was born in 1258. Wikipedia says b. ca 1254; Genealogics says b. 1265.12,5,4,3 He married Marie de Dreux de Bretagne, Dame d'Elincourt, daughter of Jean II de Dreux Duc de Bretagne, Earl of Richmond and Beatrice (?) of England, Countess of Richmond, on 22 July 1292 at Guînes, Departement de Pas-de-Calais, Hauts-de-France, France (now).2,13,14,15
Guy III de Châtillon Comte de St. Pol died on 6 April 1317.12,4,5,3
Guy III de Châtillon Comte de St. Pol was buried after 6 April 1317 at Abbaye de Cercamp, Frevent, Departement du Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 1258
DEATH 6 Apr 1317 (aged 58–59)
Count of St Pol. Born after 1254 as the second eldest son of Guy II and Mathilde de Brabant. He fougth in the Battle of the Golden Spurs at Kortrijk (1302) against the Flanders.
Family Members
Parents
Guy II de Chatillon 1226–1289
Matilda de Brabant Chatillon 1224–1288
Spouse
Marie de Bretagne 1268–1339
Siblings
Robert II de Artois 1250–1302
Beatrix de Chatillon 1255–1304
Half Siblings
Blanche d'Artois 1248–1302
Children
Mathilde de Chatillon de Valois 1293–1358
Mary De Châtillon De St Pol 1303–1377
BURIAL Abbaye de Cercamp, Frevent, Departement du Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France
Created by: Lutetia
Added: 20 Mar 2012
Find A Grave Memorial 87077059.5
EDV-20. He was Great Butler of France.4 Guy III de Châtillon Comte de St. Pol was also known as Guido III Comte de St. Pol.16
; There is a lack of clarity as to the parents of the Beatrix de Châtillon, who married in 1315 Jean de Dampierre, Lord of Crèvecœur.
The Wikipedia article on Marie of Brittany says that Beatrix was a dau. of Marie and Gui IV Châtillon, Count of Saint-Pol.
Racines et Histoire (Dampierre, p. 8) says that Beatrix was the dau. of Jacques I Châtillon, Gui's brother, but mentions the possibility that Gui was her fther. (See attached image.)
Genealogics also assigns Beatrix to Jacquest I, and cites:
I have chosen to follow Genealogics (and Racines et Histoire). GA Vaut.17,15,18,19
Guy III de Châtillon Comte de St. Pol began military service on 11 July 1302 at Battle of the Golden Spurs/Battle of Courtrai, Courtrai/Kortrijk, West Flanders, Vlaams-Brabant, Belgium (now), Per Wikipedia: "He was placed in joint command (with Robert VI of Auvergne) of one of the two reserve "battles" of the French troops at the Battle of the Golden Spurs. He was able to escape when the French were routed by the Flemings, but his brother Jacques and many of his relatives were killed."
"The Battle of the Golden Spurs (Flemish: Guldensporenslag; French: Bataille des éperons d'or) was a military confrontation between the royal army of France and rebellious forces of the County of Flanders on 11 July 1302 during the Franco-Flemish War (1297–1305). It took place near the town of Kortrijk (Courtrai) in modern-day Belgium and resulted in an unexpected victory for the Flemish. It is sometimes referred to as the Battle of Courtrai."4,20
Per van de Pas "This is obviously Guy (Guido) III de Chatillon, Count of St Pol who I >> have as born in 1265, married in 1292, died in 1317." Find A Grave says he was born in 1258. Wikipedia says b. ca 1254; Genealogics says b. 1265.12,5,4,3 He married Marie de Dreux de Bretagne, Dame d'Elincourt, daughter of Jean II de Dreux Duc de Bretagne, Earl of Richmond and Beatrice (?) of England, Countess of Richmond, on 22 July 1292 at Guînes, Departement de Pas-de-Calais, Hauts-de-France, France (now).2,13,14,15
Guy III de Châtillon Comte de St. Pol died on 6 April 1317.12,4,5,3
Guy III de Châtillon Comte de St. Pol was buried after 6 April 1317 at Abbaye de Cercamp, Frevent, Departement du Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 1258
DEATH 6 Apr 1317 (aged 58–59)
Count of St Pol. Born after 1254 as the second eldest son of Guy II and Mathilde de Brabant. He fougth in the Battle of the Golden Spurs at Kortrijk (1302) against the Flanders.
Family Members
Parents
Guy II de Chatillon 1226–1289
Matilda de Brabant Chatillon 1224–1288
Spouse
Marie de Bretagne 1268–1339
Siblings
Robert II de Artois 1250–1302
Beatrix de Chatillon 1255–1304
Half Siblings
Blanche d'Artois 1248–1302
Children
Mathilde de Chatillon de Valois 1293–1358
Mary De Châtillon De St Pol 1303–1377
BURIAL Abbaye de Cercamp, Frevent, Departement du Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France
Created by: Lutetia
Added: 20 Mar 2012
Find A Grave Memorial 87077059.5
EDV-20. He was Great Butler of France.4 Guy III de Châtillon Comte de St. Pol was also known as Guido III Comte de St. Pol.16
; There is a lack of clarity as to the parents of the Beatrix de Châtillon, who married in 1315 Jean de Dampierre, Lord of Crèvecœur.
The Wikipedia article on Marie of Brittany says that Beatrix was a dau. of Marie and Gui IV Châtillon, Count of Saint-Pol.
Racines et Histoire (Dampierre, p. 8) says that Beatrix was the dau. of Jacques I Châtillon, Gui's brother, but mentions the possibility that Gui was her fther. (See attached image.)
Genealogics also assigns Beatrix to Jacquest I, and cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 7:18; 2:8
2. Histoire genealogique et chronologique de la maison royale de France, des pairs et des grandes officieres de la Couronne, Anselme, Père. II p 743 - VI p 96, 106-108
2. Histoire genealogique et chronologique de la maison royale de France, des pairs et des grandes officieres de la Couronne, Anselme, Père. II p 743 - VI p 96, 106-108
I have chosen to follow Genealogics (and Racines et Histoire). GA Vaut.17,15,18,19
Guy III de Châtillon Comte de St. Pol began military service on 11 July 1302 at Battle of the Golden Spurs/Battle of Courtrai, Courtrai/Kortrijk, West Flanders, Vlaams-Brabant, Belgium (now), Per Wikipedia: "He was placed in joint command (with Robert VI of Auvergne) of one of the two reserve "battles" of the French troops at the Battle of the Golden Spurs. He was able to escape when the French were routed by the Flemings, but his brother Jacques and many of his relatives were killed."
"The Battle of the Golden Spurs (Flemish: Guldensporenslag; French: Bataille des éperons d'or) was a military confrontation between the royal army of France and rebellious forces of the County of Flanders on 11 July 1302 during the Franco-Flemish War (1297–1305). It took place near the town of Kortrijk (Courtrai) in modern-day Belgium and resulted in an unexpected victory for the Flemish. It is sometimes referred to as the Battle of Courtrai."4,20
Family | Marie de Dreux de Bretagne, Dame d'Elincourt b. 1268, d. 5 May 1339 |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I31777
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Capet 16: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/capet/capet16.html#A1
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy III de Châtillon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013388&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_IV,_Count_of_Saint-Pol. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 14 October 2019), memorial page for Guy III de Chatillon (1258–6 Apr 1317), Find A Grave Memorial no. 87077059, citing Abbaye de Cercamp, Frevent, Departement du Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France ; Maintained by Lutetia (contributor 46580078), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/87077059/guy_iii-de_chatillon. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy II de Châtillon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00013386&tree=LEO
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- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Navarre 5: p. 535. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
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- [S2162] Leo van de Pas, "van de Pas email 28 July 2007: "Fw: Nicole de Noyelles & Gary Boyd Roberts," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 28 July 2007. Hereinafter cited as "van de Pas email 28 July 2007."
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marie de Bretagne: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005725&tree=LEO
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 13 October 2019), memorial page for Marie de Bretagne (1268–5 May 1339), Find A Grave Memorial no. 87077551, citing Abbaye de Cercamp, Frevent, Departement du Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France ; Maintained by Lutetia (contributor 46580078), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/87077551/marie-de_bretagne
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- [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 14 Oct 2019; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
- [S1953] Wikipedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Golden_Spurs
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabeau de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00108741&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jacques de Châtillon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00570845&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Eleonore de Châtillon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00546862&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jeanne de Châtillon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00570847&tree=LEO
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- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Fiennes.pdf: p. 4.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jean de Châtillon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027525&tree=LEO
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Richardson PA, Sicily 7: pp. 654-5.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mahaut de Châtillon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005235&tree=LEO
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