Luitgard (?)1

F, #60121
Last Edited11 Nov 2003
     Luitgard (?) married Charlemagne (?) King of the Franks and Emperor of the West, son of Pepin III "The Short" (?) King of the Franks and Bertha/Bertrade (?) of Laon, in 794.1
     Luitgard (?)
Leo van der Pas cites: Queen Victoria's Descendants New York, 1987. , Marlene A. Eilers, Reference: 63.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Luitgard: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020010&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Hruodhaid (?)1,2

F, #60122, b. circa 784, d. after 800
FatherCharlemagne (?) King of the Franks and Emperor of the West1,2 b. 2 Apr 747, d. 28 Jan 814
Last Edited12 Nov 2003
     Hruodhaid (?) was born circa 784.1,2
Hruodhaid (?) died after 800.1,2
     Hruodhaid (?)
Leo van der Pas cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 63.1

Hruodhaid (?)
illegitimate.2,1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hruodhaid: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020025&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html

Ruothild (?) Abbess of Faremoutiers1,2

F, #60123, d. 24 March 852
FatherCharlemagne (?) King of the Franks and Emperor of the West1,2 b. 2 Apr 747, d. 28 Jan 814
MotherMadelgarda (?)3,2
Last Edited12 Nov 2003
     Ruothild (?) Abbess of Faremoutiers died on 24 March 852.1,2
     Ruothild (?) Abbess of Faremoutiers
Leo van der Pas cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 64.1 She was Abbess of Faremoutiers in 840.4,2

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ruothild: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020021&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Madelgarda: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020012&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Routhild: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020021&tree=LEO

Madelgarda (?)1

F, #60124
Last Edited12 Nov 2003
     Madelgarda (?)
Leo van der Pas cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 63.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Madelgarda: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020012&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html

Adalthrud/Adeltrude (?)1,2

F, #60125, b. 774, d. 852
FatherCharlemagne (?) King of the Franks and Emperor of the West1,2 b. 2 Apr 747, d. 28 Jan 814
MotherGerswinde (?) von Sachsen3,2
ReferenceGAV33
Last Edited5 Nov 2019
     Adalthrud/Adeltrude (?) married Gauzlin II (?) Comte du Maine, son of Gauzlin I (?) du Maine and Adeltrude (?) de Bourges.4 Adalthrud/Adeltrude (?) was born in 774 at Germany (now).5
Adalthrud/Adeltrude (?) died in 852.5
Adalthrud/Adeltrude (?) was buried in 852 at Saint Arnoul Royal Abbey, Metz, Departement de la Moselle, Lorraine, France,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     774, Germany
     DEATH     852 (aged 77–78), France
     Illegitimate daughter of Charlemagne
     Family Members
     Parents
          Charlemagne 742–814
          Gerswinde von Sachsen
     Spouse
          Gauzlin II du Maine 775–826
     Half Siblings
          Drogo of Metz
          Pepin Carolingian of Italy 773–810
          Louis I of the Franks 778–840
          Hugh l'Abbe de St Quentin 802–844
     Children
          Donat I de Melun 800–860
     BURIAL     Saint Arnoul Royal Abbey, Metz, Departement de la Moselle, Lorraine, France
     Created by: Memerizion
     Added: 1 Jun 2015
     Find A Grave Memorial 147284287.5
     GAV-33.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 64.1

Family

Gauzlin II (?) Comte du Maine b. 775, d. 826
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adalthrud: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020022&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gersvinda: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020013&tree=LEO
  4. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 03 November 2019), memorial page for Gauzlin II du Maine (775–826), Find A Grave Memorial no. 147284157, citing Cathedrale Saint-Maurice d'Angers, Angers, Departement de Maine-et-Loire, Pays de la Loire, France ; Maintained by Memerizion (contributor 48072664), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/147284157/gauzlin_ii-du_maine. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  5. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 03 November 2019), memorial page for Adeltrude du Maine (774–852), Find A Grave Memorial no. 147284287, citing Saint Arnoul Royal Abbey, Metz, Departement de la Moselle, Lorraine, France ; Maintained by Memerizion (contributor 48072664), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/147284287/adeltrude-du_maine

Gerswinde (?) von Sachsen1

F, #60126
FatherWittekind (?) Duke of Saxony1,2 b. 735, d. 7 Jan 810
ReferenceGAV34
Last Edited5 Nov 2019
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 63.3
GAV-34. Gerswinde (?) von Sachsen was also known as Gersvinda (?)3 Gerswinde (?) von Sachsen was also known as Gerswinde (?) of Saxony.4

Family

Charlemagne (?) King of the Franks and Emperor of the West b. 2 Apr 747, d. 28 Jan 814
Child

Citations

  1. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 03 November 2019), memorial page for Gerswinde von Sachsen (unknown–unknown), Find A Grave Memorial no. 147283928, ; Maintained by Memerizion (contributor 48072664) Unknown, at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/147283928/gerswinde-von_sachsen. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  2. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 03 November 2019), memorial page for Wittekind von Sachsen (735–7 Jan 807), Find A Grave Memorial no. 144272171, citing Stiftskirche, Enger, Kreis Herford, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany ; Maintained by Memerizion (contributor 48072664), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/144272171/wittekind-von_sachsen
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gersvinda: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020013&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html

Drogo (?) Archbishop, Bishop of Metz1,2

M, #60127, b. 17 June 801, d. 8 December 855
FatherCharlemagne (?) King of the Franks and Emperor of the West1,2 b. 2 Apr 747, d. 28 Jan 814
MotherRegina (?)3,2 b. 770, d. 7 Jun 844
Last Edited6 Nov 2019
     Drogo (?) Archbishop, Bishop of Metz was born on 17 June 801.1,2
Drogo (?) Archbishop, Bishop of Metz died on 8 December 855 at Metz, Departement de la Moselle, Lorraine, France (now), at age 54.1,2
Drogo (?) Archbishop, Bishop of Metz was buried after 8 December 855 at Saint Arnoul Royal Abbey, Metz, Departement de la Moselle, Lorraine, France,

; From Find A Grave:
     BIRTH     unknown, France
     DEATH     unknown, Boulogne, Departement de la Vendée, Pays de la Loire, France
     Drogo, also known as Dreux or Drogon born on June 17, 801, was an illegitimate son of Frankish emperor Charlemagne by the concubine Regina.
As one of the few children to outlive his father, Drogo's prospects for political power were very favourable. Only one older son of Charlemagne remained, and was eager to ensure his few opponents were placated. He became a cleric in 818, abbot of Luxeuil in 820, acceded to become bishop of Metz in 823 and arch chapter in 834 in which position he remained for the duration of his life. His younger (full) brother, Hugh, was also ordained. He remained extremely loyal to his (half) brother, Louis the Pious and amassed great power under him. Drogo's influence began to wane after Louis' death, and his influence fell even more after the death of his only full brother Hugh in 844. Still, he managed to ensure the production of the Drogo Sacramentary, which is named for him.
     The Drogo Sacramentary is a Carolingian illuminated manuscript on vellum of c.850, one of the monuments of Carolingian book illumination. A sacramentary is a book containing all the prayers spoken by the officiating priest during the course of the year. The Sacramentary was written and painted for the personal use of Charlemagne's son Drogo, bishop of Metz. Metz was an important bishopric:
     He died December 8, 855 after falling into the River Oignon in which he was fishing. A list of bishops of Metz records "domnus Drogo archiepiscopus et sacri palate summus capellanus, filius Karoli imperatoris" as 40th bishop, holding the position for 32 years, 5 months and 7 days.
     Family Members
     Parents
          Charlemagne 742–814
          Regina Reginopycrha von Aachen 770–844
     Siblings
          Hugh l'Abbe de St Quentin 802–844
     Half Siblings
          Pepin Carolingian of Italy 773–810
          Adeltrude du Maine 774–852
          Louis I of the Franks 778–840
     BURIAL     Saint Arnoul Royal Abbey, Metz, Departement de la Moselle, Lorraine, France
     Created by: Mad
     Added: 9 Mar 2012
     Find A Grave Memorial 86517668.4
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 64.1


Drogo (?) Archbishop, Bishop of Metz
[illegitimete by Regine, a concubine] Drogon, *17.6.801, +Metz 8.12.855, Bp of Metz 823.2 He was Bishop of Metz in 823 at Metz, Departement de la Moselle, Lorraine, France (now).2,1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Drogo: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020023&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Regina: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020014&tree=LEO
  4. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 06 November 2019), memorial page for Drogo of Metz (unknown–unknown), Find A Grave Memorial no. 86517668, citing Saint Arnoul Royal Abbey, Metz, Departement de la Moselle, Lorraine, France ; Maintained by Mad (contributor 47329061), at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/86517668/drogo-of_metz. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.

Regina (?)1

F, #60128, b. 770, d. 7 June 844
Last Edited6 Nov 2019
     Regina (?) was born in 770 at Aachen (Aix La Chapelle), Stadtkreis Aachen, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany (now).2
Regina (?) died on 7 June 844 at Aachen (Aix La Chapelle), Stadtkreis Aachen, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany (now).2
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 63.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Regina: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020014&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 06 November 2019), memorial page for Regina Reginopycrha von Aachen (770–7 Jun 844), Find A Grave Memorial no. 147097702, ; Maintained by Memerizion (contributor 48072664) Unknown, at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/147097702/regina-reginopycrha-von_aachen. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugo: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020024&tree=LEO

Dietrich/Theoderich (?)1,2

M, #60129, b. 807, d. after 818
FatherCharlemagne (?) King of the Franks and Emperor of the West1,2 b. 2 Apr 747, d. 28 Jan 814
MotherAdallind (?)3,2
Last Edited12 Nov 2003
     Dietrich/Theoderich (?) was born in 807; Genealogy.EU (Carolin 1 page) says b. ca 806.1,2
Dietrich/Theoderich (?) died after 818; Genealogy.EU (Carolin 1 page) says d. after 819.1,2
     Dietrich/Theoderich (?)
Leo van der Pas cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 64.1 He was a monk.2

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Dietrich: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020020&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adallind: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020015&tree=LEO

Adallind (?)1

F, #60130
Last Edited12 Nov 2003
     Adallind (?)
Leo van der Pas cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 63.1

Family

Charlemagne (?) King of the Franks and Emperor of the West b. 2 Apr 747, d. 28 Jan 814
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adallind: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020015&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html

Juliana (?)1

F, #60131
ReferenceGAV33
Last Edited2 Dec 2004

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html

Didier (?) King of Lombards1

M, #60132
Last Edited11 Nov 2003

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin2.html

Rodolfo III (?) Ct. of Franconia1

M, #60133
Last Edited11 Nov 2003

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html

Ludowicus (?) Abbot of St. Denis, Chancellor of Charles the Bald1,2

M, #60134, b. circa 800, d. 9 January 867
FatherRorico/Rorick (?) Comte de Maine1,2 d. 16 Jun 840
MotherRotrud (Hruothraud) (?)1,2 b. c 775, d. 6 Jun 810
Last Edited3 Nov 2019
     Ludowicus (?) Abbot of St. Denis, Chancellor of Charles the Bald was born circa 800.1,2
Ludowicus (?) Abbot of St. Denis, Chancellor of Charles the Bald died on 9 January 867.1,2
     Ludowicus (?) Abbot of St. Denis, Chancellor of Charles the Bald
Leo van der Pas cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 66.1 He was Abbot of St. Denis.1 He was Chancellor of Charles the Bald.1 Ludowicus (?) Abbot of St. Denis, Chancellor of Charles the Bald was also known as Louis (?) de Rennes.2

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ludowicus: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020031&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html

Richwin (?) Count of Padua1

M, #60135, d. 1 October 804
Last Edited12 Nov 2003
     Richwin (?) Count of Padua married Hiltrud (?), daughter of Charlemagne (?) King of the Franks and Emperor of the West and Fastrada (?), in 799.1,2
Richwin (?) Count of Padua died on 1 October 804 at Trier.1
     Richwin (?) Count of Padua
Leo van der Pas cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 71.1

Family

Hiltrud (?) b. c 787, d. a 814
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Richwin: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020037&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ricbodo: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020038&tree=LEO

Ricbodo (?)1

M, #60136, b. between 800 and 805, d. 14 June 844
FatherRichwin (?) Count of Padua1 d. 1 Oct 804
MotherHiltrud (?)1 b. c 787, d. a 814
Last Edited12 Nov 2003
     Ricbodo (?) was born between 800 and 805.1
Ricbodo (?) died on 14 June 844 at Angoulême, Departement de la Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France (now); killed in battle.1,2
     Ricbodo (?)
Leo van der Pas cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 71.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ricbodo: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020038&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html

Adelheid/Adalhaid (?) of Lombardy1,2,3,4

F, #60137, b. circa 798
FatherPepin/Pippin I Karlmann (?) King of Italy1,2 b. Apr 773, d. 8 Jul 810
MotherChrothais (?)1
ReferenceGAV34
Last Edited13 Oct 2019
     Adelheid/Adalhaid (?) of Lombardy married Lambert I (?) Count of Nantes, comte d’Herbauges;
His 2nd wife.5,3,2,6 Adelheid/Adalhaid (?) of Lombardy was born circa 798.1
     Reference: Leo van de Pas cites:
     1. Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference 67
     2. Wikipedia Website. Lambert I of Nantes.2
GAV-34.

Adelheid/Adalhaid (?) of Lombardy
Genealogy.EU (Carolin 1 page) says she married Duke Gui I of Spoleto (d. 866); Leo van der Pas does not mention this marriage, but only mentions her marriage to Lambert I.1,2,3 Adelheid/Adalhaid (?) of Lombardy was also known as Théodrade of Lombardy d'Italie.5

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adalhaid: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020182&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambert_I_of_Nantes. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  4. [S1953] Wikipedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelaide_of_Lombardy
  5. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Craon.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lambert I, Count & Markgraf of Nantes: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00304045&tree=LEO

Theodrade (?)1

F, #60138, b. between 800 and 810, d. before 914
FatherPepin/Pippin I Karlmann (?) King of Italy1 b. Apr 773, d. 8 Jul 810
MotherChrothais (?)1
Last Edited12 Nov 2003
     Theodrade (?) was born between 800 and 810.1
Theodrade (?) died before 914.1
     Theodrade (?)
Theodrade, *ca 800/810, +before 814; one of daughters m.Lambert of Nantes (+1.9.836.)1

Theodrade (?)
Genealogy.EU (Carolin 1 page) lists this 5th daughter of Pepin and says she married a "Lambert of Nantes". Leo van der Pas does not list this daughter.1,2

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Pippin I (Karlmann): http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020039&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.

Bernard II (?)1,2

M, #60139, b. circa 845, d. before 28 January 893
FatherPepin II Quentin (?) Cte de Vermandois, sn de Senlis, de Peronne et de St.Quentin1,2,3 d. a 840
Last Edited12 Nov 2003
     Bernard II (?) was born circa 845.1,2
Bernard II (?) died before 28 January 893.1,2
     Bernard II (?)
Leo van der Pas cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference 104.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Count Bernhard: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020490&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Pippin: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020185&tree=LEO

Robert (?) Vicomte d'Autun1

M, #60140, b. 898, d. circa 960
FatherRaoul (?) Comte de Dijon2 b. bt 859 - 885
ReferenceGAV29 EDV30
Last Edited26 Apr 2020
     Robert (?) Vicomte d'Autun married Ingeltrude (?)3,1 Robert (?) Vicomte d'Autun was born in 898.4
Robert (?) Vicomte d'Autun died circa 960.2
Robert (?) Vicomte d'Autun died circa 960.1
     GAV-29 EDV-30 GKJ-31.

Robert (?) Vicomte d'Autun
Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 433.1

Family

Ingeltrude (?) b. 900, d. a 940
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106085&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I44230
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ingeltrude: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106086&tree=LEO
  4. [S640] Inc. Brøderbund Software, World Family Tree Vol. L1, Ed. 1, Family #0021 (n.p.: Release date: October 30, 1998, unknown publish date).
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lambert: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106087&tree=LEO

Ingeltrude (?)1

F, #60141, b. 900, d. after 940
ReferenceGAV29 EDV30
Last Edited26 Apr 2020
     Ingeltrude (?) married Robert (?) Vicomte d'Autun, son of Raoul (?) Comte de Dijon.1,2 Ingeltrude (?) was born in 900.3
Ingeltrude (?) died after 940.1
     Ingeltrude (?)
Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 433.1 GAV-29 EDV-30 GKJ-31.

Family

Robert (?) Vicomte d'Autun b. 898, d. c 960
Child

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ingeltrude: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106086&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106085&tree=LEO
  3. [S640] Inc. Brøderbund Software, World Family Tree Vol. L1, Ed. 1, Family #0021 (n.p.: Release date: October 30, 1998, unknown publish date).
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lambert: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00106087&tree=LEO

Otto/Otton I de Vermandois Comte de Chiny, Comte d'Ivois1,2

M, #60142, b. circa 956, d. after 983
FatherAdalbert/Albert I "The Pious" (?) Comte de Vermandois3,4,5 b. c 915, d. 8 Sep 987
MotherGerberga (?) de Lorraine3,6,5 b. c 935, d. a 7 Sep 978
ReferenceGAV30
Last Edited15 Apr 2020
     Otto/Otton I de Vermandois Comte de Chiny, Comte d'Ivois was born circa 956.3
Otto/Otton I de Vermandois Comte de Chiny, Comte d'Ivois died after 983.3
     Otto/Otton I de Vermandois Comte de Chiny, Comte d'Ivois was a witness to the NB: There is disagreement about the parentage of Louis I, Comte de Chiny (murdered 28 Sep 1025)
     Genealogics shows this Louis I as the son of Otto I, Comte de Chiny, Ermengarde, his wife. Genealogics cites:
Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.)7:42.

     Med Lands shows this Louis I as the son of Odo/Otto, Comte d’Ivois [Vermandois] & his unnamed wife. Med Lands cites:
-- Laurentii Gesta Episcoporum Virdunensium 2, MGH SS X, p. 492.
-- Verdun Saint-Vanne (1902), Necrology, p. 146.
-- Verdun Saint-Vanne, 1898, XXXVII, p. 442-3.

     The English and French versions of Wikipedia both show Louis as the son of Odo/Otto, Comte d’Ivois [Vermandois]. These two entries cite:
-- Vanderkindere, Léon, La Formation territoriale des principautés belges au Moyen Âge, Bruxelles, H. Lamertin, 1902
-- Settipani, Christian, La Préhistoire des Capétiens (Nouvelle histoire généalogique de l'auguste maison de France, Villeneuve d'Ascq, éd. Patrick van Kerrebrouck, 1993

For the present, I am pretty ambivalent on this, but have elected to follow the lineage as proposed by Med Lands. GA Vaut

[See Note Per Med Lands] with Louis I (?) Comte de Chiny.7,8,9,10,1

Otto/Otton I de Vermandois Comte de Chiny, Comte d'Ivois
Per Wikipedia:
     "Otto I (Eudes) (d. 987), Count of Chiny, perhaps son of Adalbert I the Pious, Count of Vermandois, and Gerberge of Lorraine.[1] Although he probably did not use the title, Otto is regarded as the first Count of Chiny.
     "Historically, an Otto of Vermandois is mentioned in a charter of 958 alongside his father, the Count of Vermandois. His name and that of his brother Ludolfe show a Germanic ancestry of the kings of the family of Saxony, which is indeed the case, as his mother is Gerberge of Lorraine, niece of Emperor Otto I (her mother being daughter to Henry the Fowler). He was reported as a quarrelsome lord who threatened Hainaut and Cambrésis (the region around Cambrai).
     "In 971, an Otto erected a fortress in Warcq, in the Ardennes, and attacked his neighbors, including Adalbero, Archbishop of Reims.[1] He is mentioned as having imperial ancestry. This and a number of other facts prompted the historian Léon Vanderkindere to hypothesize that these two Ottos were in fact a single historical figure.[citation needed]
     "His wife’s name is unknown. It is possible that she was from Ardennes, a relative of Wigeric of Lotharingia and Cunigunda of France, granddaughter of Louis the Stammerer. This could explain the name of his son and the appointment of the latter as Count of Verdun in 1024. Otto and his wife had one child:
** Louis I (d. 1025), Count of Chiny and Verdun.[2]

     "Upon his death, Otto was succeeded as Count of Chiny by his son Louis.
Notes
1. Vanderkindere 1902, p. 344.
3. Vanderkindere 1902, p. 345.
References
** Vanderkindere, Léon (1902). La Formation territoriale des principautés belges au Moyen Âge. Vol. 2. H. Lamertin, Libraire-Editeur.
Further reading
** Arlette Laret-Kayser, Entre Bar et Luxembourg : Le Comté de Chiny des Origines à 1300, Bruxelles (éditions du Crédit Communal, Collection Histoire, série in-8°, n° 72), 1986
** Vanderkindere, Léon, La Formation territoriale des principautés belges au Moyen Âge, Bruxelles, H. Lamertin, 1902
** Settipani, Christian, La Préhistoire des Capétiens (Nouvelle histoire généalogique de l'auguste maison de France, Villeneuve d'Ascq, éd. Patrick van Kerrebrouck, 1993"

[See Note Per Med Lands].2 GAV-30.

Otto/Otton I de Vermandois Comte de Chiny, Comte d'Ivois
Per Wikipedia (Fr.):
     "Un Otton de Vermandois est cité dans une charte de 958 aux côtés de son père Albert Ier, comte de Vermandois. Son nom, ainsi que celui de son frère Liudolphe montre une ascendance issue des rois de Germanie de la famille de Saxe, ce qui est effectivement le cas, car sa mère Gerberge de Lotharingie est nièce de l'empereur Otton Ier. Cet Otton de Vermandois est signalé comme un seigneur querelleur, qui menaça le Hainaut et le Cambrésis.
     "Un Otton édifia vers 971 la forteresse de Warcq, en Ardennes, et s'attaqua à ses voisins, dont l'évêque Adalbéron de Reims. Il est mentionné comme étant d'ascendance impériale.
     "Il y a également un certain nombre d'autres faits qui incitèrent les historiens Ferdinand Lot et Léon Vanderkindere, à la fin du xixe siècle, à voir dans ces deux Otton un unique personnage historique.
     "Otton de Warcq fut le fondateur du comté de Chiny, bien qu'il n'en porta pas probablement pas le titre, et mourut vers 987.
Mariage et enfant
     "Son épouse est inconnue. Il est possible que celle-ci soit issue des comtes de Verdun de la maison d'Ardenne, soit une descendance de Wigéric de Bidgau et de Cunégonde de France, petite-fille de Louis II le Bègue, roi de France. Cela expliquerait le nom de son fils et la nomination de celui-ci comme comte de Verdun en 1024.
     "Otton de Warcq a eu :
** Louis Ier, mort en 1025, comte de Chiny et de Verdun.

Source
** Christian Settipani, La Préhistoire des Capétiens (Nouvelle histoire généalogique de l'auguste maison de France, vol. 1), Villeneuve-d'Ascq, éd. Patrick van Kerrebrouck, 1993, 545 p. (ISBN 978-2-95015-093-6)"

[See Note Per Med Lands].1

Otto/Otton I de Vermandois Comte de Chiny, Comte d'Ivois
Per Med Lands:
     "OTTO, son of [ALBERT [I] Comte de Vermandois & his [second] wife Gerberga of Lotharingia] ([950/55]-[986/87]). "Ottonem, Alberti Vermandensium comitis filium" is named in the Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium[558]. A list of members of the Cathedral of Paris lists (in order) "Albertus comes, Girberga comitissa, Harbertus, Otto, Lewultus, Girbertus, Gondrada, Ricardus, Harbertus comes…", the first four individuals named apparently being Comte Albert, his wife and three sons, and the last named maybe his brother or nephew[559]. Otto is named with his parents in a charter of Comte Adalbert dated 2 Nov [958/59][560]. There appears to be no direct proof that Otto, ancestor of the Comtes de Chiny, was the same person as Otto, son of Adalbert Comte de Vermandois. The Historia Monasterii Mosomense records that "Ottonem comitem" built "castellum…Warcus" (Warcq, Ardennes, in the comitatus Castritius) in 971, and suggests his affiliation when, in a later passage, it clarifies that "superius dictus Ottho erat comes, Otthonum…Romanorum imperatorum…germanissima progenies"[561]. The editor of the MGH SS edition of the Historia identifies Otto with the son of Albert [I] Comte de Vermandois and Gerberge, daughter of Emperor Otto I's sister[562]. A subsequent passage of the Historia dates the foundation of the monastery to 24 Jul 971[563], implying that the events recorded earlier in the text predated this foundation. If this is correct, 971 seems early for Otto de Vermandois to have constructed Warcq in light of his estimated birth date (which appears reasonably robust). It is assumed that Otto conquered Ivois around the same time as building the castle of Warcq, and installed himself as Comte d'Ivois[564]. Gerbert, in a letter dated to Oct 986, records that "dux Cono pro suo Ottone insidias molitur"[565]. In the same letter, he also records that "Laudunensis episcopus" left "Dordingum" (Dourdon?) on the advice of "Ottonis et Heriberti" in support of "ducem" (which appears to refer to Hugues Capet). Settipani suggests that "Otto" in this text refers to the holder of Warcq[566]. However, all other passages in Gerbert's letters which name "Ottonis et Heriberti" (in that order) appear to refer to Eudes I Comte de Blois and his first cousin Héribert [V] Comte de Troyes. It is unclear from the full text of this letter whether the two references to "Ottone" and to "Ottonis" relate to the same person. "Dux Cono" has not been identified, although it may refer to Konrad I Duke of Swabia. If this is correct, it is possible that the first "Ottone" is a different person from the second "Ottonis" as there is no other passage which links the Blois count to the Swabian duke. Settipani states that Otto died "between 986 and 987", without specifying the basis for this speculation[567].
     "m ---. The name of Otto's wife is not known."
Med Lands cites:
[558] Gesta Episcorum Cameracensium I.96, MGH SS VII, p. 439.
[559] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.2, Eglise cathedrale de Paris, p. 1015.
[560] Lot, F. (1891) Les derniers Carolingiens, Lothaire, Louis V, Charles de Lorraine (Paris), p. 65, cited in Settipani (1993), p. 241.
[561] Historia Monasterii Mosomensis, 1.6 and 1.7, MGH SS XIV pp. 604 and 605.
[562] MGH SS XIV, p. 605 footnote 1.
[563] Historia Monasterii Mosomensis, 2.1, MGH SS XIV p. 609.
[564] Vanderkindere (1902), Vol. II, p. 344.
[565] Havet, J. (ed.) (1889) Lettres de Gerbert 983-997 (Paris) ("Gerbert") 94, p. 86.
[566] Settipani (1993), p. 241.
[567] Settipani (1993), p. 241.8,11
Otto/Otton I de Vermandois Comte de Chiny, Comte d'Ivois was also known as Odo de Vermandois.3

Reference: Genealogics cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977, Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 124.12

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Louis Ier de Chiny: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Ier_de_Chiny. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (Fr.).
  2. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_I,_Count_of_Chiny. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Odo de Vermandois: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020496&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adalbert 'the Pious': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020492&tree=LEO
  5. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#AlbertIdied987B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gerberga de Lorraine: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020493&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Louis I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120863&tree=LEO
  8. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(UPPER)%20NOBILITY.htm#OttoChinyB
  9. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 10 April 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  10. [S1953] Wikipedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis,_Count_of_Verdun.
  11. [S4753] Christian Settipani, La Préhistoire des Capétiens, 481-987, première partie - Mérovingiens, Carolingiens et Robertiens (n.p.: Van Kerrebrouck, 1993), p. 241. Hereinafter cited as Settipani [1993] La Préhistoire des Capétiens.
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Odo de Vermandois: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020496&tree=LEO

Liudolf (?) de Vermandois, Bishop of Noyon1

M, #60143, b. circa 957, d. before 9 November 986
FatherAdalbert/Albert I "The Pious" (?) Comte de Vermandois1,2,3,4 b. c 915, d. 8 Sep 987
MotherGerberga (?) de Lorraine1,5,3,4 b. c 935, d. a 7 Sep 978
Last Edited10 Apr 2020
     Liudolf (?) de Vermandois, Bishop of Noyon was born circa 957.1,4
Liudolf (?) de Vermandois, Bishop of Noyon died before 9 November 986.1,4
     Liudolf (?) de Vermandois, Bishop of Noyon
Per Med Lands: "LIUDOLF ([957]-before 9 Nov 986). A list of members of the Cathedral of Paris lists (in order) "Albertus comes, Girberga comitissa, Harbertus, Otto, Lewultus, Girbertus, Gondrada, Ricardus, Harbertus comes…", the first four individuals named apparently being Comte Albert, his wife and three sons, and the last named maybe his brother or nephew[277]. He was appointed Bishop of Noyon 978, consecrated 979."
Med Lands cites: [277] Obituaires de Sens Tome I.2, Eglise cathedrale de Paris, p. 1015.4

Liudolf (?) de Vermandois, Bishop of Noyon
See Wikipedia entry.

[See Note Per Med Lands]6

Reference: Genealogics cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 129.7
He was Bishop of Noyon. Per Med Lands: "He was appointed Bishop of Noyon 978, consecrated 979. The Historiæ Tornacenses record that "Leudulfus" succeeded "Hadulfo" as bishop[922]."
Med Lands cites: [922] Historiæ Tornacenses, Liber III, 9, MGH SS XIV, p. 336. between 979 and 986.8

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Liudolf de Vermandois: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020497&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Adalbert 'the Pious': https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020492&tree=LEO
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#AlbertIdied987B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfravalver.htm#LiudolfVermandoisNoyondied986
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gerberga de Lorraine: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020493&tree=LEO
  6. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liudolf_of_Vermandois. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Liudolf de Vermandois: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020497&tree=LEO
  8. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/Reims.htm#_ftn922

Eudes I (?) Cte de Ham1

M, #60144, b. after 1032
FatherOtho (Eudes Or Otto) (?) Comte de Vermandois et de Valois1 b. bt 985 - 990, d. 25 May 1045
MotherParvie (Pavie) (?)1 b. 990
Last Edited13 Nov 2003
     Eudes I (?) Cte de Ham was born after 1032.1

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html

Doda (?)1

F, #60145, d. after 9 July 855
Last Edited13 Nov 2003

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html

Gisla (?) Abbess of San Salvatore1,2

F, #60146, b. circa 852, d. 28 April 868
FatherLouis II "The Younger" (?) King of Italy, Emperor of the East Franks1,2 b. 825, d. 12 Aug 875
MotherEngelberge/Ingelberga (?) of Alsace/di Spoleto1,2 d. c 900
Last Edited13 Nov 2003
     Gisla (?) Abbess of San Salvatore was born circa 852.1
Gisla (?) Abbess of San Salvatore died on 28 April 868.1
     Gisla (?) Abbess of San Salvatore
(an unknown value) at San Salvatore, Brescia, Italy (now).1

Gisla (?) Abbess of San Salvatore
Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gisla: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020440&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html

Gottfried/Godefrid (?) Duke of Friesland1

M, #60147, b. circa 830, d. June 885
ReferenceGAV30 EDV31
Last Edited18 Nov 2019
     Gottfried/Godefrid (?) Duke of Friesland was born circa 830 at Friesland.2 He married Gisela (?) de Lorraine, daughter of Lothaire II "The Saxon" (?) King of Lorraine and Waldrada (?) d'Alsace, in 882.3
Gottfried/Godefrid (?) Duke of Friesland died in June 885 at Lobith, Rijnwaarden Municipality, Gelderland, Netherlands (now); murdered.4,5
     Gottfried/Godefrid (?) Duke of Friesland
NB: Genealogy.EU incorrectly assigns Godefrid as the son of Harald Klak, King of Haithabu: "Godefrid, 15th King of Haithabu, King of Dorestad and Rustringen, +murdered 885/6; m.882 Gisela of Lotharingia (+after 18.1.908)"
Wikipedia says that "This Godfrid has sometimes been confused with Godfrid Haraldsson."4,1 GAV-30 EDV-31 GKJ-31.

Gottfried/Godefrid (?) Duke of Friesland
Per Wikipedia:
     "Godfrid, Godafrid, Gudfrid, or Gottfrid (Old Norse: Guðfrið; murdered June 885) was a Danish Viking leader of the late ninth century. He had probably been with the Great Heathen Army, descended on the continent, and became a vassal of the emperor Charles the Fat, controlling most of Frisia between 882 and 885.
     "In 880, Godfrid ravaged Flanders using Ghent as his base. In 882, Godfrid ravaged Lotharingia and the cities of Maastricht, Liège, Stavelot, Prüm, Cologne, and Koblenz were devastated. After the Siege of Asselt forced him to come to terms, Godfrid was granted the Kennemerland, which had formerly been ruled by Rorik of Dorestad, as a vassal of Charles, according to the Annales Fuldenses. Godfrid swore oaths to Charles promising never to again lay waste his kingdom and accepted Christianity and baptism, at which Charles stood as his godfather. In return, Charles appointed him Duke of Frisia and gave him Gisela, daughter of Lothair II, as his wife.
     "However, Godfrid did nothing against a Danish raid which pillaged large parts of the Low Countries in 884. In 885, he was summoned to Lobith for a meeting after being accused of complicity with Hugh, Duke of Alsace and brother of Godfrid's wife Gisela, in an insurrection. In an act of treachery he was killed by a group of Frisian and Saxon nobles at the connivance of Henry of Franconia, who had been at odds with Hugh and was against the initial appointment of Godfrid as Duke. The local count Gerulf took over the West Frisian coastline from the Danish after the murder.
     "This Godfrid has sometimes been confused with Godfrid Haraldsson.
Sources
** Nelson, Janet L (ed.), and Reuter, Timothy (trans.) The Annals of Fulda. (Manchester Medieval series, Ninth-Century Histories, Volume II.) Manchester: Manchester University Press, 1992.
** Simon Coupland (1998), "From poachers to gamekeepers: Scandinavian warlords and Carolingian kings", Early Medieval Europe, 7: 85–114, doi:10.1111/1468-0254.00019
** MacLean, Simon. Kingship and Politics in the Late Ninth Century: Charles the Fat and the end of the Carolingian Empire. Cambridge University Press: 2003.
** Smith, Julia M. H. Province and Empire: Brittany and the Carolingians. Cambridge University Press: 1992."1

Reference: Genealogics cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 91.4
Gottfried/Godefrid (?) Duke of Friesland was also known as Gudfrid (?) Duke of Friesland.1 Gottfried/Godefrid (?) Duke of Friesland was also known as Godafrid (?) Duke of Friesland.1 Gottfried/Godefrid (?) Duke of Friesland was also known as Godfried (?) Duke of Friesland.1 Gottfried/Godefrid (?) Duke of Friesland was also known as Gottfrid (?) Duke of Friesland.1

Family

Gisela (?) de Lorraine b. bt 860 - 865, d. a 21 May 907
Child

Citations

  1. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godfrid,_Duke_of_Frisia. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  2. [S812] e-mail address, online http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bferris, Jr. William R. Ferris (unknown location), downloaded updated 4 Apr 2002, http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=bferris&id=I44094
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Norway 1 page - Kings of Haithabu: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/scand/norway1.html
  4. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Norway 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/scand/norway1.html
  5. [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 18 November 2019), memorial page for Gottfried of Frisia (unknown–885), Find A Grave Memorial no. 157931914, ; Maintained by Memerizion (contributor 48072664) Non-Cemetery Burial, who reports a Murdered at Lobith, at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/157931914/gottfried-of_frisia. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.

Irmgard (?)1

F, #60148
FatherLothaire II "The Saxon" (?) King of Lorraine1 b. 827, d. 8 Aug 869
MotherWaldrada (?) d'Alsace1 b. bt 835 - 836, d. 9 Apr 900
Last Edited13 Nov 2003

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html

Berta (?)1

F, #60149, b. circa 830, d. after 7 May 852
FatherLothair I (?) King of Italy, Holy Roman Emperor, King of Bavaria1 b. 795, d. 29 Sep 855
MotherIrmgard/Ermengarde (?) Countess of Tours, Queen of Italy1 b. c 797, d. 20 Mar 851
Last Edited14 Nov 2003
     Berta (?) was born circa 830.1
Berta (?) died after 7 May 852 at Avennay.1

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html

Rotrude (?) de Germanie1

F, #60150, b. between 835 and 837, d. circa 882
FatherLothair I (?) King of Italy, Holy Roman Emperor, King of Bavaria2 b. 795, d. 29 Sep 855
MotherIrmgard/Ermengarde (?) Countess of Tours, Queen of Italy2,3 b. c 797, d. 20 Mar 851
ReferenceGAV30
Last Edited16 Aug 2019
     Rotrude (?) de Germanie married Lambert II (?) Count and Markgraf of Nantes, son of Lambert I (?) Count of Nantes, comte d’Herbauges and Itta (?).2,4,5 Rotrude (?) de Germanie was born between 835 and 837; Racines et Histoire says b. ca 834.2,1
Rotrude (?) de Germanie died circa 882.1
     Rotrude (?) de Germanie
Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: II 188B.2 GAV-30. Rotrude (?) de Germanie was also known as Rotrud (?)2

Family

Lambert II (?) Count and Markgraf of Nantes b. c 834, d. 1 May 852
Child

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Craon.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Rotrud: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00304044&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Irmgard de Tours: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020432&tree=LEO
  4. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Carolin 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/carolin/carolin1.html
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Lambert II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00304043&tree=LEO