William le Bigod1,2
M, #14492, d. 25 November 1120
Father | Roger le Bigod1,2,3 d. c 15 Sep 1107 |
Mother | Adelaise de Tosny1,2,3 d. a 1136 |
Last Edited | 20 Jul 2007 |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 28, BIGOD 1:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1741] Adrian Channing, "Channing email 22 July 2005: "Re: Belvoir confusion - came from John Throckmorton messages"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 22 July 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Channing email 22 July 2005."
- [S2063] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 19 April 2006: "Re: de Clavering family"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 19 April 2006. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 19 April 2006."
Marie (?) de Lorraine1
F, #14494, d. after 1344
Father | Thibault II (?) Duc de Lorraine, Sire de Neufchateu, Montfort et Chatenois, Sire de Rumigny1 b. 1263, d. 13 May 1312 |
Mother | Isabelle de Rumigny Heiress of Rumigny, Florennes & Boves, duchesse douairière de Lorraine1 b. Jun 1263, d. 1322 |
Last Edited | 26 Jan 2020 |
Marie (?) de Lorraine married Guy de Chatillon-sur-Marne sn de La Fere-en-Tardenois, son of Gaucher/Guy V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, Cécy-en-Brie, Pontarcy, comte de Porcien, connétable de France and Hélissende de Vergy, in 1324.1
Marie (?) de Lorraine died after 1344.1
Marie (?) de Lorraine died after 1344.1
Family | Guy de Chatillon-sur-Marne sn de La Fere-en-Tardenois d. 1362 |
Child |
|
Citations
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Lorraine 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/lorraine/lorraine2.html
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gaucher X de Châtillon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026226&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
William Vipont1
M, #14495
Father | Robert Vipont2 |
Reference | GAV25 EDV25 |
Last Edited | 20 Jul 2008 |
GAV-25 EDV-25.
; van de Pas cites: The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H., Reference: 142.1
; van de Pas cites: The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 , Turton, Lt.Col. W. H., Reference: 142.1
Family | |
Child |
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, William Vipont: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00175600&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert Vipont: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00175599&tree=LEO
William Bigod1
M, #14496
Father | Hugh I le Bigod 1st Earl of Norfolk1 b. c 1095, d. b 9 Mar 1176 |
Mother | Gundred de Warenne Countess of Warwick1 b. 1117, d. a 1166 |
Last Edited | 19 Aug 2001 |
Family | Margaret de Sutton of Bures, co. Essex |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 29, BIGOD 2:iii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
Joan Burnell1
F, #14498
Reference | EDV24 |
Last Edited | 14 Aug 2019 |
Joan Burnell married Hugh Bigod, son of Hugh I le Bigod 1st Earl of Norfolk and Gundred de Warenne Countess of Warwick.1
EDV-24.
EDV-24.
Family | Hugh Bigod b. c 1156 |
Child |
|
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 29, BIGOD 2:ii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 30, BIGOD 4:i.
Faydide (?) de Posquieres1
F, #14499
Father | Rostaing I (?) seigneur de Posquieres2 |
Last Edited | 13 Aug 2020 |
Faydide (?) de Posquieres married Raymond I Decan (?) Vicomte d'Avignon, son of Berenger I (?) vicomte d'Avignon and Gerberge (?) de Sisteron.3
; Per Med Lands:
"RAYMOND "Decan", son of BERENGER Vicomte d’Avignon & his wife Gerberge [de Sisteron] (-after 12 Jul 1096). "Barangarius", with the consent of "uxoris meæ Gisberge et filiorum meorum…Rostagni episcopi et Berengarii, Raymundi, Willelmi, Leodegarii, Rostagni, Bertranni", donated "ecclesiam Sancte Trinitatis…in territorio Avennicensi in castro…Pons Sorgie" to Cluny by charter dated 14 Feb 1063[1099]. Deacon of Avignon. "Rostagnus, episcopus Avinionis, filius Berengarii vicecomiti" donated "sita prope castellum…Forchalcherium" by charter dated to [1065/75], signed by "Raimundus et Vilelmus, Laugerius et Berengarius fratres"[1100]. "Rostagnus...Avinionensis ecclesie episcopus" confirmed the donation to Marseille Saint-Victor made by "Miro quondam avunculus meus", which had been unjustly taken by “Berengarius frater meus” and donated again after the death of the latter, confirmed by “uxor Willelmi Bertranni comitis videlicet comitissia, Guirberga et filii eius Willelmus, Raimundus, Lothgerius, Rostagnus...”, by charter dated to before 1080[1101]. "…Decanus…" signed the charter dated 28 Jul 1094 under which "Raimundus…comes et Provincie marchio" granted tax exemptions to Marseille Saint-Victor, the same document recording that "Raimundus decanus" granted the same privilege[1102]. "Raimundus Decanus filius Berengarii et Gisbergæ" donated property "in villa de Ragnenatis" to the church of Avignon by charter dated Jan 1096, signed by "Leodeguarius frater eius, Rostagnus Berenguarius alius frater…"[1103].
"m ---. The name of Raymond’s wife is not known."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"RAYMOND "Decan", son of BERENGER Vicomte d’Avignon & his wife Gerberge [de Sisteron] (-after 12 Jul 1096). "Barangarius", with the consent of "uxoris meæ Gisberge et filiorum meorum…Rostagni episcopi et Berengarii, Raymundi, Willelmi, Leodegarii, Rostagni, Bertranni", donated "ecclesiam Sancte Trinitatis…in territorio Avennicensi in castro…Pons Sorgie" to Cluny by charter dated 14 Feb 1063[1099]. Deacon of Avignon. "Rostagnus, episcopus Avinionis, filius Berengarii vicecomiti" donated "sita prope castellum…Forchalcherium" by charter dated to [1065/75], signed by "Raimundus et Vilelmus, Laugerius et Berengarius fratres"[1100]. "Rostagnus...Avinionensis ecclesie episcopus" confirmed the donation to Marseille Saint-Victor made by "Miro quondam avunculus meus", which had been unjustly taken by “Berengarius frater meus” and donated again after the death of the latter, confirmed by “uxor Willelmi Bertranni comitis videlicet comitissia, Guirberga et filii eius Willelmus, Raimundus, Lothgerius, Rostagnus...”, by charter dated to before 1080[1101]. "…Decanus…" signed the charter dated 28 Jul 1094 under which "Raimundus…comes et Provincie marchio" granted tax exemptions to Marseille Saint-Victor, the same document recording that "Raimundus decanus" granted the same privilege[1102]. "Raimundus Decanus filius Berengarii et Gisbergæ" donated property "in villa de Ragnenatis" to the church of Avignon by charter dated Jan 1096, signed by "Leodeguarius frater eius, Rostagnus Berenguarius alius frater…"[1103].
"m ---. The name of Raymond’s wife is not known."
Med Lands cites:
[1099] Cluny Tome IV, 3387, p. 484.
[1100] Marseille Saint-Victor, Tome II, Chartularium Majus, 663, p. 9.
[1101] Marseille Saint-Victor, Tome II, 664, p. 10.
[1102] Marseille Saint-Victor, Tome II, Chartularium Majus, 686, p. 25.
[1103] Manteyer (1908), p. 380, quoting Arch. de Vaucluse G., chap. métr., art. 27 provisoire, ff. 32 v.-33 r.4
[1100] Marseille Saint-Victor, Tome II, Chartularium Majus, 663, p. 9.
[1101] Marseille Saint-Victor, Tome II, 664, p. 10.
[1102] Marseille Saint-Victor, Tome II, Chartularium Majus, 686, p. 25.
[1103] Manteyer (1908), p. 380, quoting Arch. de Vaucluse G., chap. métr., art. 27 provisoire, ff. 32 v.-33 r.4
Family | Raymond I Decan (?) Vicomte d'Avignon b. c 1025 |
Child |
|
Citations
- [S1707] J Bunot, "Bunot email 26 Feb 2005: "Ahnentafel Petronille de Comminges-Bigorre"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/soc.genealogy.medieval/YzUpz3CDrCM/zTYWP3a3pRkJ;context-place=forum/soc.genealogy.medieval) to e-mail address, 26 Feb 2005, 45. m. Faydide de Posquieres, soeur de Rainon, seigneur de Posquieres. Hereinafter cited as "Bunot email 26 Feb 2005."
- [S1707] J Bunot, "Bunot email 26 Feb 2005," e-mail to e-mail address, 26 Feb 2005, 90. Rostaing Ier, seigneur de Posquieres.
- [S1707] J Bunot, "Bunot email 26 Feb 2005," e-mail to e-mail address, 26 Feb 2005, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/soc.genealogy.medieval/YzUpz3CDrCM/zTYWP3a3pRkJ;context-place=forum/soc.genealogy.medieval.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/toulnoreast.htm#RaymondDecandied1096B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
Bertha de Ferrers1
F, #14500, d. after 10 February 1267
Father | William de Ferrers 4th Earl of Derby, Lord of Abergavenny b. bt 1162 - 1168, d. 22 Sep 1247 |
Mother | Agnes Kevelioc of Chester, Lady of Chartley b. 1174, d. 2 Nov 1247 |
Reference | GAV21 |
Last Edited | 9 Dec 2012 |
Bertha de Ferrers married Sir Thomas de Furnivalle of Sheffield, Yorkshire, son of Gerard de Furnivalle and Maud de Luvetot.2,3,4
Bertha de Ferrers married Sir Ralph le Bigod of Settrington, son of Hugh le Bigod 3rd Earl of Norfolk and Maud Matilda Marshal, after 1238
; her 2nd husband (per Weis), Her 1st husband d. ca 1238.2,5,3
Bertha de Ferrers died after 10 February 1267; Richardson says d. aft 1278/9.2,5,4
GAV-21. Bertha de Ferrers was also known as Berta.6,5,3
; Weis AR 148A-29.2
Bertha de Ferrers married Sir Ralph le Bigod of Settrington, son of Hugh le Bigod 3rd Earl of Norfolk and Maud Matilda Marshal, after 1238
; her 2nd husband (per Weis), Her 1st husband d. ca 1238.2,5,3
Bertha de Ferrers died after 10 February 1267; Richardson says d. aft 1278/9.2,5,4
GAV-21. Bertha de Ferrers was also known as Berta.6,5,3
; Weis AR 148A-29.2
Family 1 | Sir Thomas de Furnivalle of Sheffield, Yorkshire d. c 1238 |
Children |
|
Family 2 | Sir Ralph le Bigod of Settrington b. c 1216, d. b 28 Jul 1260 |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 29, BIGOD 3:iii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S632] Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700: The Lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Some of Their Descendants, 7th edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.
Baltimore, 1992, unknown publish date), line 148A-29, p. 131. Hereinafter cited as Weis AR-7. - [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Petre Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1784] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 29 July 2005 "Re: Descendants of Sir Richard de Lucy and Rohese of Boulogne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/F9_d7JZUuk0/m/5jgR9n064yQJ) to e-mail address, 29 July 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 29 July 2005."
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 100-101, de FURNIVALL 3.
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 30, BIGOD 5:ii.
- [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Mowbray 5: p. 529. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
Roger Bigod 4th Earl of Norfolk1
M, #14501
Father | Roger II Bigod Baron Bigod, 2nd Earl of Norfolk1 b. c 1150, d. b 2 Aug 1221 |
Mother | Ida (Isabella) de Toeni1 b. c 1152 |
Last Edited | 23 Apr 2006 |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 30, BIGOD 3:iv. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
Aubrey IV de Vere 2nd Earl of Oxford1,2,3
M, #14502, b. circa 1163, d. before October 1214
Father | Aubrey III de Vere 1st Earl of Oxford, 1st Earl of Essex2,3,4 b. c 1110, d. 26 Dec 1194 |
Mother | Agnes de Essex2,3,4,5 b. bt 1151 - 1152, d. a 1206 |
Last Edited | 14 May 2020 |
Aubrey IV de Vere 2nd Earl of Oxford married Alice (Adeliza?) Bigod, daughter of Roger II Bigod Baron Bigod, 2nd Earl of Norfolk and Ida (Isabella) de Toeni,
;
His 2nd wife.1,4 Aubrey IV de Vere 2nd Earl of Oxford married Isabel de Bolbec, daughter of Walter III de Bolbec Lord of Whitchurch,
;
His 1st wife.6,3,7,4 Aubrey IV de Vere 2nd Earl of Oxford was born circa 1163.1,4
Aubrey IV de Vere 2nd Earl of Oxford was buried before October 1214 at Colne Piory, Earls Colne, Braintree District, co. Essex, England.4
Aubrey IV de Vere 2nd Earl of Oxford died before October 1214; dspl.1,8,3,4
; Aubrey de Vere - Death: bef Oct 1214[5], Occ: 2nd Earl of Oxford
Spouse: Isabel de Bolebec
Birth: 1175[5]
Death: ca 1206, d.s.p.[5]
Father: Walter de Bolebec (-<1185)
Sources:
5. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.3
He was 2nd Earl of Oxford.8
; Sources cited by Ravillious in his 23 May 2004 email:
1. I. J. Sanders, "English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and Descent, 1086-1327," Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.
2. "Primary Sources: English Manorial Documents," E. P. Cheyney, Jr., http://www.shsu.edu/~his_ncp/Manor.html from "English Manorial Documents," Translations and Reprints from the original Sources of European History, E. P. Cheyney, tr., vol. 3, no. 5, (Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania, 1907), pp. 3-32, includes extracts from Domesday Book (Valoins).
3. Katherine S. B. Keats-Rohan, "Domesday People," The Boydell Press, 1999, Vol. I: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166, cites Robert de Torigni, Interpolations to Gesta Normannorum Ducum of Guillaume of Jumieges, (ed. van Houts, ii, 270) and identification of Gilbert fitzRichard as uncle of Meen, seigneur de Fougeres (Rouleau Mortuaire du B. Vital abbe de Savigni, edition phototypique par L. Delisle Paris (1909), titre no. 182).
4. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 24, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Domesday Descendants, 450 and 686 (re: Hamo de St. Clare).
5. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.
6. Chris Phillips, "Re: Richard de Curcy of Newenham, Oxon - Same as Nuneham Courtenay?," Jul 28, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites VCH Oxfordshire vol. 5, pp. 237-240 re: Curci family and manor of Newenham.
7. Douglas Richardson, "FitzWalter," September 8, 2002, paper copy: library of John Ravilious, text, line of descent from Ida Longespee, daughter of William Longespee, Knt. [or his father William, Earl of Salisbury] and her husband Walter fitz Robert, of Woodham Walter, Essex & c. (d. before 10 Apr 1258).
8. D.A.Bullough and R.L.Storey, eds., "The Study of Medieval Record, Essays in honour of Kathleen Major," 'The Early Charters of the Family of Kinninmonth of that Ilk', by G. W. S. Barrow, http://sadko.ncl.ac.uk/~ndjk/Personal/Scotland/Origins/Charters.htm p. 6 = King William I confirms to Adam, son of Odo the steward, the grant made to Odo by Gilchrist, the abbot, and the convent of the culdees of St. Andrews, as in No. 2. Forfar (c. 1194).
9. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 18, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Sanders 120, 139 and Red Book of the Exchequer, p.748 re: Agnes fitz John and the Valoins family, as well as PRO E 40/3699 and PRO E 40/3958 concerning Gunnora de Essex, 'neptis' of Agnes fitz John.
10. Stewart Baldwin, "Oldest Female Line?," Nov 20, 1996, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com.
11. Frederick L. Weis, Th. D., "The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215," Baltimore: Gen Pub Co., 5th ed., 1997 (W. L. Sheppard Jr & David Faris).
12. Rosie Bevan and Cris Nash, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 23, 2003 (and previous), GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cite Complete Peerage, vol.10, p.206; Sanders p.120, 139;, Domesday Descendants, p.449-451, and prior contributions, by Chris Phillips on 15 March 2001.
13. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," 17 May 2004, cites evidence in EYC XI p. 186, EYV II no. 1110, 1186 Rotuli Dominabus (p. 80), and others.3
; Per Med Lands:
"AUBREY ([1163 or later][1099]-1214 before Oct, bur Colne Priory). He succeeded his father in 1194 as Earl of Oxford, Hereditary Master Chamberlain. The Red Book of the Exchequer, listing scutage payments in [1194/95], names "Abricus de Ver" among those granted delay in payment "per brevis" in Buckinghamshire, Bedfordshire[1100]. Matthew Paris names “Willelmus...frater regis et comes Sareberiensis, Albericus de Ver comes Oxoniensis, G[aufridus] filius Petri Angliæ justiciarius...” among the "consiliarios iniquissimos” of King John[1101]. The Chronicle of Ralph of Coggeshall records the death in 1214 of "Albericus de Ver comes Oxoniensis"[1102].
"m firstly ISABEL de Bolebec, daughter and heiress of WALTER de Bolebec of Whitchurch, Buckinghamshire & his wife --- (-[1206/07]). The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not been identified.
"m secondly ALICE, daughter of --- (-after 1214). According to the Complete Peerage, the second wife of Aubrey was “apparently” Alice Bigod, daughter of Roger Bigod Earl of Norfolk & his wife Ida ---, but it cites no primary source on which this is based, suggesting that “it may be derived from the Book of Colne Priory” without further explanation[1103]. Earl Aubrey had one illegitimate son by an unknown mistress:
Med Lands cites:
; Sources cited by Ravillious in his 23 May 2004 email:
1. I. J. Sanders, "English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and Descent, 1086-1327," Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.
2. "Primary Sources: English Manorial Documents," E. P. Cheyney, Jr., http://www.shsu.edu/~his_ncp/Manor.html from "English Manorial Documents," Translations and Reprints from the original Sources of European History, E. P. Cheyney, tr., vol. 3, no. 5, (Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania, 1907), pp. 3-32, includes extracts from Domesday Book (Valoins).
3. Katherine S. B. Keats-Rohan, "Domesday People," The Boydell Press, 1999, Vol. I: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166, cites Robert de Torigni, Interpolations to Gesta Normannorum Ducum of Guillaume of Jumieges, (ed. van Houts, ii, 270) and identification of Gilbert fitzRichard as uncle of Meen, seigneur de Fougeres (Rouleau Mortuaire du B. Vital abbe de Savigni, edition phototypique par L. Delisle Paris (1909), titre no. 182).
4. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 24, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Domesday Descendants, 450 and 686 (re: Hamo de St. Clare).
5. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.
6. Chris Phillips, "Re: Richard de Curcy of Newenham, Oxon - Same as Nuneham Courtenay?," Jul 28, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites VCH Oxfordshire vol. 5, pp. 237-240 re: Curci family and manor of Newenham.
7. Douglas Richardson, "FitzWalter," September 8, 2002, paper copy: library of John Ravilious, text, line of descent from Ida Longespee, daughter of William Longespee, Knt. [or his father William, Earl of Salisbury] and her husband Walter fitz Robert, of Woodham Walter, Essex & c. (d. before 10 Apr 1258).
8. D.A.Bullough and R.L.Storey, eds., "The Study of Medieval Record, Essays in honour of Kathleen Major," 'The Early Charters of the Family of Kinninmonth of that Ilk', by G. W. S. Barrow, http://sadko.ncl.ac.uk/~ndjk/Personal/Scotland/Origins/Charters.htm p. 6 = King William I confirms to Adam, son of Odo the steward, the grant made to Odo by Gilchrist, the abbot, and the convent of the culdees of St. Andrews, as in No. 2. Forfar (c. 1194).
9. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 18, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Sanders 120, 139 and Red Book of the Exchequer, p.748 re: Agnes fitz John and the Valoins family, as well as PRO E 40/3699 and PRO E 40/3958 concerning Gunnora de Essex, 'neptis' of Agnes fitz John.
10. Stewart Baldwin, "Oldest Female Line?," Nov 20, 1996, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com.
11. Frederick L. Weis, Th. D., "The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215," Baltimore: Gen Pub Co., 5th ed., 1997 (W. L. Sheppard Jr & David Faris).
12. Rosie Bevan and Cris Nash, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 23, 2003 (and previous), GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cite Complete Peerage, vol.10, p.206; Sanders p.120, 139;, Domesday Descendants, p.449-451, and prior contributions, by Chris Phillips on 15 March 2001.
13. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," 17 May 2004, cites evidence in EYC XI p. 186, EYV II no. 1110, 1186 Rotuli Dominabus (p. 80), and others.3
; AUBREY de VERE, 2nd EARL OF OXFORD; b in or after 1163; hereditary Master Chamberlain of England, Sheriff Essex and Herts 1208-13, Steward Forest of Essex 1213; m 1st Isabel (dsp 1206-07), dau and heiress of Walter de Bolebec, feudal Ld of Whitchurch; m 2nd Alice, dau of Roger Bigod, 2nd Earl of Norfolk (see NORFOLK, D, preliminary remarks), and dspl by Oct 1214, leaving illegitimately:
1b Roger; d 1221.8
He was hereditary Master Chamberlain of England.8
;
His 2nd wife.1,4 Aubrey IV de Vere 2nd Earl of Oxford married Isabel de Bolbec, daughter of Walter III de Bolbec Lord of Whitchurch,
;
His 1st wife.6,3,7,4 Aubrey IV de Vere 2nd Earl of Oxford was born circa 1163.1,4
Aubrey IV de Vere 2nd Earl of Oxford was buried before October 1214 at Colne Piory, Earls Colne, Braintree District, co. Essex, England.4
Aubrey IV de Vere 2nd Earl of Oxford died before October 1214; dspl.1,8,3,4
; Aubrey de Vere - Death: bef Oct 1214[5], Occ: 2nd Earl of Oxford
Spouse: Isabel de Bolebec
Birth: 1175[5]
Death: ca 1206, d.s.p.[5]
Father: Walter de Bolebec (-<1185)
Sources:
5. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.3
He was 2nd Earl of Oxford.8
; Sources cited by Ravillious in his 23 May 2004 email:
1. I. J. Sanders, "English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and Descent, 1086-1327," Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.
2. "Primary Sources: English Manorial Documents," E. P. Cheyney, Jr., http://www.shsu.edu/~his_ncp/Manor.html from "English Manorial Documents," Translations and Reprints from the original Sources of European History, E. P. Cheyney, tr., vol. 3, no. 5, (Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania, 1907), pp. 3-32, includes extracts from Domesday Book (Valoins).
3. Katherine S. B. Keats-Rohan, "Domesday People," The Boydell Press, 1999, Vol. I: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166, cites Robert de Torigni, Interpolations to Gesta Normannorum Ducum of Guillaume of Jumieges, (ed. van Houts, ii, 270) and identification of Gilbert fitzRichard as uncle of Meen, seigneur de Fougeres (Rouleau Mortuaire du B. Vital abbe de Savigni, edition phototypique par L. Delisle Paris (1909), titre no. 182).
4. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 24, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Domesday Descendants, 450 and 686 (re: Hamo de St. Clare).
5. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.
6. Chris Phillips, "Re: Richard de Curcy of Newenham, Oxon - Same as Nuneham Courtenay?," Jul 28, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites VCH Oxfordshire vol. 5, pp. 237-240 re: Curci family and manor of Newenham.
7. Douglas Richardson, "FitzWalter," September 8, 2002, paper copy: library of John Ravilious, text, line of descent from Ida Longespee, daughter of William Longespee, Knt. [or his father William, Earl of Salisbury] and her husband Walter fitz Robert, of Woodham Walter, Essex & c. (d. before 10 Apr 1258).
8. D.A.Bullough and R.L.Storey, eds., "The Study of Medieval Record, Essays in honour of Kathleen Major," 'The Early Charters of the Family of Kinninmonth of that Ilk', by G. W. S. Barrow, http://sadko.ncl.ac.uk/~ndjk/Personal/Scotland/Origins/Charters.htm p. 6 = King William I confirms to Adam, son of Odo the steward, the grant made to Odo by Gilchrist, the abbot, and the convent of the culdees of St. Andrews, as in No. 2. Forfar (c. 1194).
9. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 18, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Sanders 120, 139 and Red Book of the Exchequer, p.748 re: Agnes fitz John and the Valoins family, as well as PRO E 40/3699 and PRO E 40/3958 concerning Gunnora de Essex, 'neptis' of Agnes fitz John.
10. Stewart Baldwin, "Oldest Female Line?," Nov 20, 1996, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com.
11. Frederick L. Weis, Th. D., "The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215," Baltimore: Gen Pub Co., 5th ed., 1997 (W. L. Sheppard Jr & David Faris).
12. Rosie Bevan and Cris Nash, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 23, 2003 (and previous), GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cite Complete Peerage, vol.10, p.206; Sanders p.120, 139;, Domesday Descendants, p.449-451, and prior contributions, by Chris Phillips on 15 March 2001.
13. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," 17 May 2004, cites evidence in EYC XI p. 186, EYV II no. 1110, 1186 Rotuli Dominabus (p. 80), and others.3
; Per Med Lands:
"AUBREY ([1163 or later][1099]-1214 before Oct, bur Colne Priory). He succeeded his father in 1194 as Earl of Oxford, Hereditary Master Chamberlain. The Red Book of the Exchequer, listing scutage payments in [1194/95], names "Abricus de Ver" among those granted delay in payment "per brevis" in Buckinghamshire, Bedfordshire[1100]. Matthew Paris names “Willelmus...frater regis et comes Sareberiensis, Albericus de Ver comes Oxoniensis, G[aufridus] filius Petri Angliæ justiciarius...” among the "consiliarios iniquissimos” of King John[1101]. The Chronicle of Ralph of Coggeshall records the death in 1214 of "Albericus de Ver comes Oxoniensis"[1102].
"m firstly ISABEL de Bolebec, daughter and heiress of WALTER de Bolebec of Whitchurch, Buckinghamshire & his wife --- (-[1206/07]). The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not been identified.
"m secondly ALICE, daughter of --- (-after 1214). According to the Complete Peerage, the second wife of Aubrey was “apparently” Alice Bigod, daughter of Roger Bigod Earl of Norfolk & his wife Ida ---, but it cites no primary source on which this is based, suggesting that “it may be derived from the Book of Colne Priory” without further explanation[1103]. Earl Aubrey had one illegitimate son by an unknown mistress:
"(a) ROGER de Vere (-Damietta 1221)[1104]."
Med Lands cites:
[1099] CP X 206. If his parents did not cohabit until [1171/72], he must have been born after that. In any case, he was probably born a few years later than 1163 assuming his mother's birth date [1151/52] is correct.
[1100] Red Book Exchequer, Part I, Anno VI regis Ricardi, ad redemptionem eius, scutagium ad XXs, p. 90.
[1101] Matthew Paris, Vol. II, 1211, p. 533.
[1102] Radulphi de Coggeshall, Chronicon Anglicanum, p. 169.
[1103] CP X 210.
[1104] Radulphi de Coggeshall, Chronicon Anglicanum, p. 190.4
[1100] Red Book Exchequer, Part I, Anno VI regis Ricardi, ad redemptionem eius, scutagium ad XXs, p. 90.
[1101] Matthew Paris, Vol. II, 1211, p. 533.
[1102] Radulphi de Coggeshall, Chronicon Anglicanum, p. 169.
[1103] CP X 210.
[1104] Radulphi de Coggeshall, Chronicon Anglicanum, p. 190.4
; Sources cited by Ravillious in his 23 May 2004 email:
1. I. J. Sanders, "English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and Descent, 1086-1327," Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.
2. "Primary Sources: English Manorial Documents," E. P. Cheyney, Jr., http://www.shsu.edu/~his_ncp/Manor.html from "English Manorial Documents," Translations and Reprints from the original Sources of European History, E. P. Cheyney, tr., vol. 3, no. 5, (Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania, 1907), pp. 3-32, includes extracts from Domesday Book (Valoins).
3. Katherine S. B. Keats-Rohan, "Domesday People," The Boydell Press, 1999, Vol. I: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166, cites Robert de Torigni, Interpolations to Gesta Normannorum Ducum of Guillaume of Jumieges, (ed. van Houts, ii, 270) and identification of Gilbert fitzRichard as uncle of Meen, seigneur de Fougeres (Rouleau Mortuaire du B. Vital abbe de Savigni, edition phototypique par L. Delisle Paris (1909), titre no. 182).
4. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 24, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Domesday Descendants, 450 and 686 (re: Hamo de St. Clare).
5. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.
6. Chris Phillips, "Re: Richard de Curcy of Newenham, Oxon - Same as Nuneham Courtenay?," Jul 28, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites VCH Oxfordshire vol. 5, pp. 237-240 re: Curci family and manor of Newenham.
7. Douglas Richardson, "FitzWalter," September 8, 2002, paper copy: library of John Ravilious, text, line of descent from Ida Longespee, daughter of William Longespee, Knt. [or his father William, Earl of Salisbury] and her husband Walter fitz Robert, of Woodham Walter, Essex & c. (d. before 10 Apr 1258).
8. D.A.Bullough and R.L.Storey, eds., "The Study of Medieval Record, Essays in honour of Kathleen Major," 'The Early Charters of the Family of Kinninmonth of that Ilk', by G. W. S. Barrow, http://sadko.ncl.ac.uk/~ndjk/Personal/Scotland/Origins/Charters.htm p. 6 = King William I confirms to Adam, son of Odo the steward, the grant made to Odo by Gilchrist, the abbot, and the convent of the culdees of St. Andrews, as in No. 2. Forfar (c. 1194).
9. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 18, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Sanders 120, 139 and Red Book of the Exchequer, p.748 re: Agnes fitz John and the Valoins family, as well as PRO E 40/3699 and PRO E 40/3958 concerning Gunnora de Essex, 'neptis' of Agnes fitz John.
10. Stewart Baldwin, "Oldest Female Line?," Nov 20, 1996, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com.
11. Frederick L. Weis, Th. D., "The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215," Baltimore: Gen Pub Co., 5th ed., 1997 (W. L. Sheppard Jr & David Faris).
12. Rosie Bevan and Cris Nash, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 23, 2003 (and previous), GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cite Complete Peerage, vol.10, p.206; Sanders p.120, 139;, Domesday Descendants, p.449-451, and prior contributions, by Chris Phillips on 15 March 2001.
13. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," 17 May 2004, cites evidence in EYC XI p. 186, EYV II no. 1110, 1186 Rotuli Dominabus (p. 80), and others.3
; AUBREY de VERE, 2nd EARL OF OXFORD; b in or after 1163; hereditary Master Chamberlain of England, Sheriff Essex and Herts 1208-13, Steward Forest of Essex 1213; m 1st Isabel (dsp 1206-07), dau and heiress of Walter de Bolebec, feudal Ld of Whitchurch; m 2nd Alice, dau of Roger Bigod, 2nd Earl of Norfolk (see NORFOLK, D, preliminary remarks), and dspl by Oct 1214, leaving illegitimately:
1b Roger; d 1221.8
He was hereditary Master Chamberlain of England.8
Family 1 | Isabel de Bolbec b. 1175, d. bt 1206 - 1207 |
Family 2 | Alice (Adeliza?) Bigod b. WFT Est. 1170-1197, d. WFT Est. 1187-1280 |
Family 3 | |
Children |
|
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 253, de VERE of Oxford 3:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 252-253, de VERE of Oxford 3:i.
- [S1639] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 23 May 2004: "Re: Peter de Valognes/Peter de Valence/Piers de Valoins"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/v8KdQqA2zSY/m/uz35oFhwDgwJ) to e-mail address, 23 May 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 23 May 2004."
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#AubreyVereOxforddied1214. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes de Essex: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00109445&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 36, de BOLBEC 2:i.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntac.htm#IsabelBolebecdied1206
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Saint Albans Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
- [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages" (Gen. Pub. Co., Baltimore, 1985 reprint of 1883 edition), Engaine - Barons Engaine, p. 189. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
Ralph Bigod1,2
M, #14503, b. circa 1184
Father | Hugh Bigod2 b. c 1156 |
Mother | Joan Burnell2 |
Reference | EDV23 |
Last Edited | 14 Aug 2019 |
Family | |
Child |
Citations
- 3rd son.
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 30, BIGOD 4:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 30, BIGOD 6:i.
Isabeau de Clermont Dame de Senblancay1
F, #14504, d. after August 1324
Father | Raoul II/III de Clermont seigneur de Nesle et de Brios,connétable de France1 b. c 1245, d. 11 Jul 1302 |
Mother | Alix/Alice/Yolande de Dreux Vicomtesse de Châteaudun, dame de Mondoubleau, Saint-Calais et de Nesle1 b. c 1255, d. a 1296 |
Last Edited | 16 Feb 2020 |
Isabeau de Clermont Dame de Senblancay married Hugues de Parthenay Seigneur de Montfort-le-Rotrou.2
Isabeau de Clermont Dame de Senblancay died after August 1324.1
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:654.1
Isabeau de Clermont Dame de Senblancay died after August 1324.1
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3:654.1
Family | Hugues de Parthenay Seigneur de Montfort-le-Rotrou d. a Aug 1324 |
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabeau de Clermont: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00296667&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues de Parthenay: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00296666&tree=LEO
Sir Ralph le Bigod1
M, #14505
Father | Sir Hugh le Bigod1 b. 1214, d. Nov 1266 |
Mother | Joan de Stuteville1 d. 6 Apr 1276 |
Last Edited | 20 Jul 2007 |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 30, BIGOD 5:iv. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
Mary Bigod1
F, #14506
Father | Ralph Bigod1 b. c 1184 |
Reference | EDV22 |
Last Edited | 14 Aug 2019 |
Family | Ralph Fitz Renold |
Child |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 30, BIGOD 6:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 96, Fitz RALPH 2.
Ralph Fitz Renold1,2
M, #14507
Reference | EDV22 |
Last Edited | 15 Aug 2019 |
Family | Mary Bigod |
Child |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 30, BIGOD 6:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 96, Fitz RALPH 1.
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 96, Fitz RALPH 2.
Odo II (?) Count of Troyes1
M, #14508
Father | Eudes/Odo I (?) Comte de Châteaudun, de Troyes et de Blois2,3 b. 829, d. 1 Aug 871 |
Mother | Wandilmonde (?) of Worms2,1,3 b. b May 846 |
Last Edited | 20 Aug 2020 |
; NB: For years I had maintained Odo II, Count of Troyes as the father of Thibaud (var. spellings) "l'Ancien". This was based on Racines et Histoire which shows a possible link, but inserts a possible generation between Eudes (Odo) and Thibaud, a Robert (d. aft 11/902), comte de Blois et de Tours. However, Boyer [2001:31] is the only other source which mentions the possibility, citing Stuart [1992], but concludes "the chronology does not seem likely." Genealogics shows no parents for Thibaud. Med Lands also shows no parents for Thibaud.
Conclusion: I have, therefore, severed the father/son link between Odo II and Thibaud (var. spellings) "l'Ancien". GA Vaut.4,5,6,7,8,9
; Per Wikipedia:
"Odo (or Eudes) II was the Count of Troyes in 876. He was a son of Odo I and Wandilmodis. Little is known of this count. His father had the county of Troyes confiscated by Charles the Bald in 858, but whether he recovered it (circa 866) is uncertain, as are the circumstances of Odo's appointment. He may have inherited it from his father or been nominated by the king. He inherited some possessions in the region of Châteaudun and some historians have retrospectively called him "Count of Châteaudun." By a charter dated 25 October 876, Charles the Bald ceded Chaource, in Tonnerre, to Robert and Odo. Robert was probably Odo's brother and successor."1 Odo II (?) Count of Troyes was also known as Eudes II (?) comte de Châteaudun puis de Troyes, comte de Blois.5,10
Conclusion: I have, therefore, severed the father/son link between Odo II and Thibaud (var. spellings) "l'Ancien". GA Vaut.4,5,6,7,8,9
; Per Wikipedia:
"Odo (or Eudes) II was the Count of Troyes in 876. He was a son of Odo I and Wandilmodis. Little is known of this count. His father had the county of Troyes confiscated by Charles the Bald in 858, but whether he recovered it (circa 866) is uncertain, as are the circumstances of Odo's appointment. He may have inherited it from his father or been nominated by the king. He inherited some possessions in the region of Châteaudun and some historians have retrospectively called him "Count of Châteaudun." By a charter dated 25 October 876, Charles the Bald ceded Chaource, in Tonnerre, to Robert and Odo. Robert was probably Odo's brother and successor."1 Odo II (?) Count of Troyes was also known as Eudes II (?) comte de Châteaudun puis de Troyes, comte de Blois.5,10
Citations
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odo_II,_Count_of_Troyes. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S1953] Wikipedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odo_I,_Count_of_Troyes.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#Eudesdied871. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Blois & Chartres (Blois-Champagne), p. 2: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Blois-Champagne.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 31, BLOIS 1. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1424] Roderick W. Stuart, Royalty for Commoners, 2nd ed. (Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1992). Hereinafter cited as Stuart [1992] Royalty for Commoners.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Tetbald|Thibaut: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020500&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CENTRAL%20FRANCE.htm#_Toc4742197
- [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 20 Aug 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Blois-Champagne.pdf, p. 2.
Gersende (?) de Maine1,2,3,4,5
F, #14509
Father | Heribert I "Eveille-Chien" (?) Comte du Maine6,2,7,3,5,8,9,10,11 b. c 985, d. 13 Apr 1036 |
Reference | GAV26 |
Last Edited | 17 Nov 2020 |
Gersende (?) de Maine married Thibaut/Theobald III de Blois Comte de Blois, Chartres, Châteaudun, Troyes, Meaux et Sancerre, et de Champagne, son of Eudes (Odo) II de Blois Comte de Blois, de Chartres, de Châteaudun, de Tours, de Beauvais, de Troyes, de Meaux et de Sancerre and Ermengarde d'Auvergne, circa 1044
;
His 1st wife; her 1st husband; whom he repudiated 1048.1,2,12,3,4,13,5,14,8 Gersende (?) de Maine and Thibaut/Theobald III de Blois Comte de Blois, Chartres, Châteaudun, Troyes, Meaux et Sancerre, et de Champagne were divorced in 1048.6,2,4,13,5,14 Gersende (?) de Maine married Alberto Azzo II d'Este Marchese d'Este, son of Alberto Azzo I d'Este Marchese di Liguria and Adela/Adelaida (?), before 1055
; her 2nd husband; his 2nd wife.7,15,3,4,5,8
; Per Med Lands:
"ALBERTO AZZO [II], son of ALBERTO Azzo [I] Conte di Luni & his wife --- ([996]-Vangadizza monastery 1097, after 13 Apr). "Oldericus Maginfredus marchio f. quondam…Maginfredi marchionis et Berta comitissa jugales filia q. Obberti marchionis" sold property "in comitatu Parmensi, Placensiensi, Ticinensi, Tortonensi, Vercellensi, Aquensi, Astensi, Eporediensi, Torinensi, Oradiensi, Albensi, Avigenensi, Aberganensi, Vigintimiliensi" to "Sigifredo presbitero filio q. Adelgisi", with "notitia propinquorum parentum suorum, id est Adalberti marchionis germani sui et Alberti infantis nepotis sui", by charter dated 6 Jun 1021[2]. He succeeded his father as Conte di Luni. Marchese. The Annalista Saxo calls him "Azoni marchioni de Langobardia de castris Calun et Estin"[3]. "Albertus qui Azo marchio vocatur…professus…lege Langobardorum" donated property "in comitatu Patavensis" to the monastery of Santa Maria in Vangadizza "in comitato Vicentino adque in comitato Patavino" to "Gaxdia puella…filia et germana nostra" by charter dated 26 Sep 1075[4]. A charter dated 31 May 1079 records an agreement between the church of Verona and "marchionem Azonem et Ugonem et Fulconem germanos filios eiusdem marchionis Azonis"[5]. The Genealogia Welforum calls him "marchio Etius cum curte Elisina"[6]. "Fulco filius Alberti marchionis qui Azo marchio" swore allegiance to "Ugo germano meo" by charter dated 6 Apr 1095, the text of which refers to their father as still living[7]. "Albertus marchio qui Azo marchio…[et] filius…Ugo" donated property to the monastery of Santa Maria in Vangadizza by charter dated 13 Apr 1097[8]. The Chronicon of Bernold records the death in 1097 of "Azzo marchio de Longobardia, pater Welfonis ducis de Baiowaria" commenting that he was "iam maior centenario"[9].
"m firstly ([1035]) KUNIGUNDE von Altdorf, daughter of WELF [II] Graf von Altdorf & his wife Irmtrud im Moselgau [Wigeriche] ([1020]-31 Mar before 1055, bur Vangadizza monastery). The Genealogia Welforum names "Cunizam" as daughter of Welf and his wife Imiza, specifying that she married "marchio Etius cum curte Elisina"[10]. The Annalista Saxo names "Cunizam" daughter of Welf, and her husband "Azoni marchioni de Langobardia de castris Calun et Estin"[11].
"m secondly ([1049/51]) as her second husband, GERSENDE du Maine, repudiated wife of THIBAUT [III] Comte de Blois, daughter of HERIBERT [I] "Euigilans Canis/Eveille-chien" Comte du Maine & his wife ---([1025/35]-). The Actus pontificum Cenomannis records that "Atho marchisius" left Maine in the hands of "Gaufridi de Meduana", also naming "uxor eiusdem marchisii Garcendis…filia Herberti Cenomannorum…comitis…Evigila Canem" and specifying that she had married firstly "Theobaldo duci Campanie" and that he had repudiated her[12]. Orderic Vitalis records that "Hugo filius Herberti" and his wife “Bertam ipsius relictam, Tedbaldi Blesensium comitis sororem” had “filium...Herbertum et tres filias”, of whom one married “Azsoni marchiso Liguriæ” (which would be difficult to sustain chronologically and confuses the children of Hugues [IV] Comte du Maine with his sisters)[13].
"Mistress (1): MATILDA, sister of GUGLIELMO Vescovo, from Padua and Vedova.
"Alberto Azzo [II] & his first wife had one child:
"1. WELF [IV] ([1035/40]-Paphos Cyprus 9 Nov 1101, bur Cyprus, removed to Weingarten, near Lake Constance).
"Alberto Azzo [II] & his second wife had two children:
"2. UGO d'Este (-1131).
"3. FOLCO [I] d'Este (-15 Dec 1128).
"Alberto Azzo [II] had one illegitimate child by Mistress (1):
"4. ADELASIA ."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU: "Azzo II, Marchese d'Este, *997, +1097; 1m: ca 1035 Kunigunde Welf (*ca 1020 +ca 1055); 2m: Gersende, dau.of Cte Herbert I du Maine and ex-wife of Cte Thibaut III de Blois."3
; Per Genealogy.EU: "C1. Cte Thibaut III de Blois, de Chartres, de Châteaudun, de Meaux, de Sancerre et de Troyes, etc; he lost Beauvais some time after 1037; *1012, +29/30.9.1089; 1m: Gersende (whom he repudiated 1048) dau.of Cte Herbert de Maine; 2m: Gundrada N; 3m: before 1061 Adela=Alix de Crépy (+1093/1100.)2"
; per Racines et Histoire: "2) Thibaud III de Blois ° 1010/12 + 29-30/09/1089 (Epernay) comte de Blois (Th. 1er), Chartres, Châteaudun et Troyes, seigneur de Meaux et Sancerre (1037 ; perd Beauvais ~1037), de Champagne (1048), capturé par Geoffroi, comte d’Anjou qui lui extorque Tours (1044) (confirme la charte de donation de son père ~1032/37)
ép. 1) ~1044 (rép./sép. 1048/49) Gersende du Maine + après 1072 (fille du comte Herbert 1er «Eveille-Chien» comte du Maine, + 13/04/1036, et de Paule de Preuilly ; elle ép. 2) avant 1055 Adalberto Azzo II, marquis d’Este et de Ligurie)
ép. 2) Gundrada (Gondrée)
ép. 3) dès 1061 Alix (Adela, Alaidis, Adèle) de Valois-Crépy + un 12/05 entre 1093 et 1100/01 comtesse de Bar-sur-Aube (10) (fille de Raoul de Crépy, comte du Vexin et de Valois, et d’Adela de Breteuil) (citée avec son mari dans une charte à Montiérender ~1077/81 ; souscrit une donation à Cluny le 11/01/1078.)17 "
; Per Med Lands:
"GERSENDE du Maine ([1025/35]-). The Actus pontificum Cenomannis records that "Atho marchisius" left Maine in the hands of "Gaufridi de Meduana", also naming "uxor eiusdem marchisii Garcendis…filia Herberti Cenomannorum…comitis…Evigila Canem" and specifying that she had married firstly "Theobaldo duci Campanie" and that he had repudiated her[158]. The same source comments that "Gaufredi de Meduana" was "tutor et quasi maritus", implying that Gersende was his mistress. Orderic Vitalis records that "Hugo filius Herberti" and his wife “Bertam ipsius relictam, Tedbaldi Blesensium comitis sororem” had “filium...Herbertum et tres filias”, of whom one married “Azsoni marchiso Liguriæ” (which would be difficult to sustain chronologically and confuses the children of Hugues [IV] Comte du Maine with his sisters)[159].
"m firstly (repudiated 1048) as his first wife, THIBAUT III Comte de Blois, son of EUDES II Comte de Blois & his second wife Ermengarde d'Auvergne ([1010]-29/30 Sep 1089, bur Epernay).
"m secondly ([1049/51]) as his second wife, ALBERTO AZZO [II] d'Este, son of ALBERTO AZZO [I] d'Este & his first wife Valdriada Candriada ([996]-Vangadizza monastery 1097). Comte du Maine [1069/70].
"Mistress of: ([1070/71]) GEOFFROY de Mayenne, son of HAYMON & his wife --- (-[May/Dec] 1098)"
Med Lands cites:
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Med Lands (Ref #1): "Mistress of: ([1070/71]) GEOFFROY de Mayenne, son of HAYMON & his wife --- (-[May/Dec] 1098)"
Per Med Lands (Ref #2): "Mistress: ([1070/71]) GERSENDE du Maine, daughter of HERIBERT [I] "Euigilans Canis/Eveille-chien" Comte du Maine & his wife --- ([1025/35]-). The Actus pontificum Cenomannis records that "Atho marchisius" left Maine in the hands of "Gaufridi de Meduana", also naming "uxor eiusdem marchisii Garcendis…filia Herberti Cenomannorum…comitis…Evigila Canem" and specifying that she had married firstly "Theobaldo duci Campanie" and that he had repudiated her[352]. The same source comments that "Gaufredi de Meduana" was "tutor et quasi maritus", implying that Gersende was his mistress."
Med lands Ref #2 cites: [352] Actus pontificum Cenomannis, p. 377.18,19
;
His 1st wife; her 1st husband; whom he repudiated 1048.1,2,12,3,4,13,5,14,8 Gersende (?) de Maine and Thibaut/Theobald III de Blois Comte de Blois, Chartres, Châteaudun, Troyes, Meaux et Sancerre, et de Champagne were divorced in 1048.6,2,4,13,5,14 Gersende (?) de Maine married Alberto Azzo II d'Este Marchese d'Este, son of Alberto Azzo I d'Este Marchese di Liguria and Adela/Adelaida (?), before 1055
; her 2nd husband; his 2nd wife.7,15,3,4,5,8
; Per Med Lands:
"ALBERTO AZZO [II], son of ALBERTO Azzo [I] Conte di Luni & his wife --- ([996]-Vangadizza monastery 1097, after 13 Apr). "Oldericus Maginfredus marchio f. quondam…Maginfredi marchionis et Berta comitissa jugales filia q. Obberti marchionis" sold property "in comitatu Parmensi, Placensiensi, Ticinensi, Tortonensi, Vercellensi, Aquensi, Astensi, Eporediensi, Torinensi, Oradiensi, Albensi, Avigenensi, Aberganensi, Vigintimiliensi" to "Sigifredo presbitero filio q. Adelgisi", with "notitia propinquorum parentum suorum, id est Adalberti marchionis germani sui et Alberti infantis nepotis sui", by charter dated 6 Jun 1021[2]. He succeeded his father as Conte di Luni. Marchese. The Annalista Saxo calls him "Azoni marchioni de Langobardia de castris Calun et Estin"[3]. "Albertus qui Azo marchio vocatur…professus…lege Langobardorum" donated property "in comitatu Patavensis" to the monastery of Santa Maria in Vangadizza "in comitato Vicentino adque in comitato Patavino" to "Gaxdia puella…filia et germana nostra" by charter dated 26 Sep 1075[4]. A charter dated 31 May 1079 records an agreement between the church of Verona and "marchionem Azonem et Ugonem et Fulconem germanos filios eiusdem marchionis Azonis"[5]. The Genealogia Welforum calls him "marchio Etius cum curte Elisina"[6]. "Fulco filius Alberti marchionis qui Azo marchio" swore allegiance to "Ugo germano meo" by charter dated 6 Apr 1095, the text of which refers to their father as still living[7]. "Albertus marchio qui Azo marchio…[et] filius…Ugo" donated property to the monastery of Santa Maria in Vangadizza by charter dated 13 Apr 1097[8]. The Chronicon of Bernold records the death in 1097 of "Azzo marchio de Longobardia, pater Welfonis ducis de Baiowaria" commenting that he was "iam maior centenario"[9].
"m firstly ([1035]) KUNIGUNDE von Altdorf, daughter of WELF [II] Graf von Altdorf & his wife Irmtrud im Moselgau [Wigeriche] ([1020]-31 Mar before 1055, bur Vangadizza monastery). The Genealogia Welforum names "Cunizam" as daughter of Welf and his wife Imiza, specifying that she married "marchio Etius cum curte Elisina"[10]. The Annalista Saxo names "Cunizam" daughter of Welf, and her husband "Azoni marchioni de Langobardia de castris Calun et Estin"[11].
"m secondly ([1049/51]) as her second husband, GERSENDE du Maine, repudiated wife of THIBAUT [III] Comte de Blois, daughter of HERIBERT [I] "Euigilans Canis/Eveille-chien" Comte du Maine & his wife ---([1025/35]-). The Actus pontificum Cenomannis records that "Atho marchisius" left Maine in the hands of "Gaufridi de Meduana", also naming "uxor eiusdem marchisii Garcendis…filia Herberti Cenomannorum…comitis…Evigila Canem" and specifying that she had married firstly "Theobaldo duci Campanie" and that he had repudiated her[12]. Orderic Vitalis records that "Hugo filius Herberti" and his wife “Bertam ipsius relictam, Tedbaldi Blesensium comitis sororem” had “filium...Herbertum et tres filias”, of whom one married “Azsoni marchiso Liguriæ” (which would be difficult to sustain chronologically and confuses the children of Hugues [IV] Comte du Maine with his sisters)[13].
"Mistress (1): MATILDA, sister of GUGLIELMO Vescovo, from Padua and Vedova.
"Alberto Azzo [II] & his first wife had one child:
"1. WELF [IV] ([1035/40]-Paphos Cyprus 9 Nov 1101, bur Cyprus, removed to Weingarten, near Lake Constance).
"Alberto Azzo [II] & his second wife had two children:
"2. UGO d'Este (-1131).
"3. FOLCO [I] d'Este (-15 Dec 1128).
"Alberto Azzo [II] had one illegitimate child by Mistress (1):
"4. ADELASIA ."
Med Lands cites:
[2] Carutti, D. (1889) Regesta comitum Sabaudiæ, marchionum in Italia (Turin) ("Regesta comitum Sabaudiæ"), L, p. 17.
[3] Annalista Saxo 1126.
[4] Gloria, A. (ed.) (1877) Codice Diplomatico Padovano al secolo sesto a tutto l´undecimo (Venice) ("Codice Diplomatico Padovano"), 223, p. 252.
[5] Codice Diplomatico Padovano, 256, p. 280.
[6] Genealogia Welforum 8, MGH SS XIII, p. 734.
[7] Codice Diplomatico Padovano, 314, p. 338.
[8] Codice Diplomatico Padovano, 321, p. 344.
[9] Bernoldi Chronicon 1097, MGH SS V, p. 465.
[10] Genealogia Welforum 8, MGH SS XIII, p. 734.
[11] Annalista Saxo 1126.
[12] Busson, G. and Ledru, A. (eds.) (1902) Actus Pontificum Cenomannis in urbe degentium (Le Mans) ("Actus pontificum Cenomannis"), 377.
[13] Le Prévost, A. (1845) Orderici Vitalis Historiæ Ecclesiasticæ (Paris) ("Orderic Vitalis (Prévost)"), Vol. II, Liber IV, XII, p. 252.16
[3] Annalista Saxo 1126.
[4] Gloria, A. (ed.) (1877) Codice Diplomatico Padovano al secolo sesto a tutto l´undecimo (Venice) ("Codice Diplomatico Padovano"), 223, p. 252.
[5] Codice Diplomatico Padovano, 256, p. 280.
[6] Genealogia Welforum 8, MGH SS XIII, p. 734.
[7] Codice Diplomatico Padovano, 314, p. 338.
[8] Codice Diplomatico Padovano, 321, p. 344.
[9] Bernoldi Chronicon 1097, MGH SS V, p. 465.
[10] Genealogia Welforum 8, MGH SS XIII, p. 734.
[11] Annalista Saxo 1126.
[12] Busson, G. and Ledru, A. (eds.) (1902) Actus Pontificum Cenomannis in urbe degentium (Le Mans) ("Actus pontificum Cenomannis"), 377.
[13] Le Prévost, A. (1845) Orderici Vitalis Historiæ Ecclesiasticæ (Paris) ("Orderic Vitalis (Prévost)"), Vol. II, Liber IV, XII, p. 252.16
; Per Genealogy.EU: "Azzo II, Marchese d'Este, *997, +1097; 1m: ca 1035 Kunigunde Welf (*ca 1020 +ca 1055); 2m: Gersende, dau.of Cte Herbert I du Maine and ex-wife of Cte Thibaut III de Blois."3
; Per Genealogy.EU: "C1. Cte Thibaut III de Blois, de Chartres, de Châteaudun, de Meaux, de Sancerre et de Troyes, etc; he lost Beauvais some time after 1037; *1012, +29/30.9.1089; 1m: Gersende (whom he repudiated 1048) dau.of Cte Herbert de Maine; 2m: Gundrada N; 3m: before 1061 Adela=Alix de Crépy (+1093/1100.)2"
; per Racines et Histoire: "2) Thibaud III de Blois ° 1010/12 + 29-30/09/1089 (Epernay) comte de Blois (Th. 1er), Chartres, Châteaudun et Troyes, seigneur de Meaux et Sancerre (1037 ; perd Beauvais ~1037), de Champagne (1048), capturé par Geoffroi, comte d’Anjou qui lui extorque Tours (1044) (confirme la charte de donation de son père ~1032/37)
ép. 1) ~1044 (rép./sép. 1048/49) Gersende du Maine + après 1072 (fille du comte Herbert 1er «Eveille-Chien» comte du Maine, + 13/04/1036, et de Paule de Preuilly ; elle ép. 2) avant 1055 Adalberto Azzo II, marquis d’Este et de Ligurie)
ép. 2) Gundrada (Gondrée)
ép. 3) dès 1061 Alix (Adela, Alaidis, Adèle) de Valois-Crépy + un 12/05 entre 1093 et 1100/01 comtesse de Bar-sur-Aube (10) (fille de Raoul de Crépy, comte du Vexin et de Valois, et d’Adela de Breteuil) (citée avec son mari dans une charte à Montiérender ~1077/81 ; souscrit une donation à Cluny le 11/01/1078.)17 "
; Per Med Lands:
"GERSENDE du Maine ([1025/35]-). The Actus pontificum Cenomannis records that "Atho marchisius" left Maine in the hands of "Gaufridi de Meduana", also naming "uxor eiusdem marchisii Garcendis…filia Herberti Cenomannorum…comitis…Evigila Canem" and specifying that she had married firstly "Theobaldo duci Campanie" and that he had repudiated her[158]. The same source comments that "Gaufredi de Meduana" was "tutor et quasi maritus", implying that Gersende was his mistress. Orderic Vitalis records that "Hugo filius Herberti" and his wife “Bertam ipsius relictam, Tedbaldi Blesensium comitis sororem” had “filium...Herbertum et tres filias”, of whom one married “Azsoni marchiso Liguriæ” (which would be difficult to sustain chronologically and confuses the children of Hugues [IV] Comte du Maine with his sisters)[159].
"m firstly (repudiated 1048) as his first wife, THIBAUT III Comte de Blois, son of EUDES II Comte de Blois & his second wife Ermengarde d'Auvergne ([1010]-29/30 Sep 1089, bur Epernay).
"m secondly ([1049/51]) as his second wife, ALBERTO AZZO [II] d'Este, son of ALBERTO AZZO [I] d'Este & his first wife Valdriada Candriada ([996]-Vangadizza monastery 1097). Comte du Maine [1069/70].
"Mistress of: ([1070/71]) GEOFFROY de Mayenne, son of HAYMON & his wife --- (-[May/Dec] 1098)"
Med Lands cites:
[158] Actus pontificum Cenomannis, p. 377.
[159] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber IV, XII, p. 252.8
Gersende (?) de Maine was also known as Garsend of Maine.7 GAV-26. [159] Orderic Vitalis (Prévost), Vol. II, Liber IV, XII, p. 252.8
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, Band II, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. Page 42.
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 5:15.5
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 5:15.5
; Per Med Lands (Ref #1): "Mistress of: ([1070/71]) GEOFFROY de Mayenne, son of HAYMON & his wife --- (-[May/Dec] 1098)"
Per Med Lands (Ref #2): "Mistress: ([1070/71]) GERSENDE du Maine, daughter of HERIBERT [I] "Euigilans Canis/Eveille-chien" Comte du Maine & his wife --- ([1025/35]-). The Actus pontificum Cenomannis records that "Atho marchisius" left Maine in the hands of "Gaufridi de Meduana", also naming "uxor eiusdem marchisii Garcendis…filia Herberti Cenomannorum…comitis…Evigila Canem" and specifying that she had married firstly "Theobaldo duci Campanie" and that he had repudiated her[352]. The same source comments that "Gaufredi de Meduana" was "tutor et quasi maritus", implying that Gersende was his mistress."
Med lands Ref #2 cites: [352] Actus pontificum Cenomannis, p. 377.18,19
Family 1 | Thibaut/Theobald III de Blois Comte de Blois, Chartres, Châteaudun, Troyes, Meaux et Sancerre, et de Champagne b. c 1010, d. 30 Sep 1089 |
Child |
Family 2 | Alberto Azzo II d'Este Marchese d'Este b. 997, d. 20 Aug 1097 |
Children |
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Citations
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- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Poitou 1 page ("The House of Poitou"): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/poitou/poitou1.html#G5
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Welf 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/welf/welf2.html
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Blois-Champagne.pdf, p. 4. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Garsende de Maine: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020139&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 31, BLOIS 5.
- [S1426] Jiri Louda (Tables) and Michael Maclagan (text), Lines of Succession: Heraldry of the Royal Families of Europe (New York, NY: Barnes & Noble Books, 2002), Table 85: Brunswick and Hanover - General Survey (House of Guelph). Hereinafter cited as Louda & Maclagan [2002] Lines of Succession.
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- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Herbert I Eveille-Chien: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00177505&tree=LEO
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Gundrada/Gondrée (?)1,2
F, #14510, d. between 1055 and 1060
Last Edited | 20 Apr 2020 |
Gundrada/Gondrée (?) married Thibaut/Theobald III de Blois Comte de Blois, Chartres, Châteaudun, Troyes, Meaux et Sancerre, et de Champagne, son of Eudes (Odo) II de Blois Comte de Blois, de Chartres, de Châteaudun, de Tours, de Beauvais, de Troyes, de Meaux et de Sancerre and Ermengarde d'Auvergne, between 1050 and 1055
;
His 2nd wife.1,3,4,5,6,7
Gundrada/Gondrée (?) died between 1055 and 1060.7
; per Racines et Histoire: "2) Thibaud III de Blois ° 1010/12 + 29-30/09/1089 (Epernay) comte de Blois (Th. 1er), Chartres, Châteaudun et Troyes, seigneur de Meaux et Sancerre (1037 ; perd Beauvais ~1037), de Champagne (1048), capturé par Geoffroi, comte d’Anjou qui lui extorque Tours (1044) (confirme la charte de donation de son père ~1032/37)
ép. 1) ~1044 (rép./sép. 1048/49) Gersende du Maine + après 1072 (fille du comte Herbert 1er «Eveille-Chien» comte du Maine, + 13/04/1036, et de Paule de Preuilly ; elle ép. 2) avant 1055 Adalberto Azzo II, marquis d’Este et de Ligurie)
ép. 2) Gundrada (Gondrée)
ép. 3) dès 1061 Alix (Adela, Alaidis, Adèle) de Valois-Crépy + un 12/05 entre 1093 et 1100/01 comtesse de Bar-sur-Aube (10) (fille de Raoul de Crépy, comte du Vexin et de Valois, et d’Adela de Breteuil) (citée avec son mari dans une charte à Montiérender ~1077/81 ; souscrit une donation à Cluny le 11/01/1078.)8 "
; Per Genealogy.EU: "C1. Cte Thibaut III de Blois, de Chartres, de Châteaudun, de Meaux, de Sancerre et de Troyes, etc; he lost Beauvais some time after 1037; *1012, +29/30.9.1089; 1m: Gersende (whom he repudiated 1048) dau.of Cte Herbert de Maine; 2m: Gundrada N; 3m: before 1061 Adela=Alix de Crépy (+1093/1100.)3"
; Per Med Lands:
"[m secondly ([1050/55]) GUNDRADA, daughter of --- (-[1055/60]). Her marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 1089 under which “Stephanus comes” donated property to the abbey of Pontlevoy, for the souls of “Theobaldi comitis patris mei et matris meæ Gundreæ…”[155]. It is assumed that she died soon after giving birth to her son. Another possibility is that “Gundreæ” in this charter is in fact a distorted transcription of “Gersendæ”, the name of Thibaut’s known first wife. This cannot be verified unless another primary source emerges which names the mother of Comte Etienne.] "
Med Lands cites: [155] Arbois de Jubainville (1859) Tome I, p. 504.7
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 2:46.2
;
His 2nd wife.1,3,4,5,6,7
Gundrada/Gondrée (?) died between 1055 and 1060.7
; per Racines et Histoire: "2) Thibaud III de Blois ° 1010/12 + 29-30/09/1089 (Epernay) comte de Blois (Th. 1er), Chartres, Châteaudun et Troyes, seigneur de Meaux et Sancerre (1037 ; perd Beauvais ~1037), de Champagne (1048), capturé par Geoffroi, comte d’Anjou qui lui extorque Tours (1044) (confirme la charte de donation de son père ~1032/37)
ép. 1) ~1044 (rép./sép. 1048/49) Gersende du Maine + après 1072 (fille du comte Herbert 1er «Eveille-Chien» comte du Maine, + 13/04/1036, et de Paule de Preuilly ; elle ép. 2) avant 1055 Adalberto Azzo II, marquis d’Este et de Ligurie)
ép. 2) Gundrada (Gondrée)
ép. 3) dès 1061 Alix (Adela, Alaidis, Adèle) de Valois-Crépy + un 12/05 entre 1093 et 1100/01 comtesse de Bar-sur-Aube (10) (fille de Raoul de Crépy, comte du Vexin et de Valois, et d’Adela de Breteuil) (citée avec son mari dans une charte à Montiérender ~1077/81 ; souscrit une donation à Cluny le 11/01/1078.)8 "
; Per Genealogy.EU: "C1. Cte Thibaut III de Blois, de Chartres, de Châteaudun, de Meaux, de Sancerre et de Troyes, etc; he lost Beauvais some time after 1037; *1012, +29/30.9.1089; 1m: Gersende (whom he repudiated 1048) dau.of Cte Herbert de Maine; 2m: Gundrada N; 3m: before 1061 Adela=Alix de Crépy (+1093/1100.)3"
; Per Med Lands:
"[m secondly ([1050/55]) GUNDRADA, daughter of --- (-[1055/60]). Her marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 1089 under which “Stephanus comes” donated property to the abbey of Pontlevoy, for the souls of “Theobaldi comitis patris mei et matris meæ Gundreæ…”[155]. It is assumed that she died soon after giving birth to her son. Another possibility is that “Gundreæ” in this charter is in fact a distorted transcription of “Gersendæ”, the name of Thibaut’s known first wife. This cannot be verified unless another primary source emerges which names the mother of Comte Etienne.] "
Med Lands cites: [155] Arbois de Jubainville (1859) Tome I, p. 504.7
Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 2:46.2
Family | Thibaut/Theobald III de Blois Comte de Blois, Chartres, Châteaudun, Troyes, Meaux et Sancerre, et de Champagne b. c 1010, d. 30 Sep 1089 |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 31, BLOIS 4:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gondrada|Gondrée: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00358834&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Poitou 1 page ("The House of Poitou"): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/poitou/poitou1.html#G5
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thibaut III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020135&tree=LEO
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Blois-Champagne.pdf, p. 4. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thibaut III: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020135&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CENTRAL%20FRANCE.htm#ThibautIIIdied1089B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Comtes de Blois & Chartres (Blois-Champagne), p. 4: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Blois-Champagne.pdf
Count Theodoricus (?)1,2
M, #14511
Reference | GAV33 |
Last Edited | 9 Jul 2020 |
Count Theodoricus (?) married Gisela (?) of Lotharingia.3,4
GAV-33.
; This is the same person as:
”Frederuna” at Wikipedia and as
”Frédérune” at Wikipédia (FR.)4,5
Reference: Genealogics cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 120.6
; NB: Genealogics names "Count Theodoricus" as the father of Frederuna, but gives no other children or wife. On the other hand, Med Lands states:
"[Four] siblings. They may have been of Danish origin and based in Frisia, if the speculation about the origin of Reginlind, wife of Theoderich, is correct, as she is referred to as "Danorum Fresonumque germine procreatam" (see below).
Wikipédia (Fr.) identifies Frédérune as a sister of the Bishop Beuve II (Bovo, Bovon).6,7,5
GAV-33.
; This is the same person as:
”Frederuna” at Wikipedia and as
”Frédérune” at Wikipédia (FR.)4,5
Reference: Genealogics cites: Caroli Magni Progenies Neustadt an der Aisch, 1977. , Siegfried Rosch, Reference: 120.6
; NB: Genealogics names "Count Theodoricus" as the father of Frederuna, but gives no other children or wife. On the other hand, Med Lands states:
"[Four] siblings. They may have been of Danish origin and based in Frisia, if the speculation about the origin of Reginlind, wife of Theoderich, is correct, as she is referred to as "Danorum Fresonumque germine procreatam" (see below).
1. BOVO [II] (-947). Bishop of Châlons [917].
2. [REGINLIND (-11 May ----). m ([900]) THEODERICH, son of --- & his wife Mathilde --- (-8 Feb 917).]
3. FREDERUNA (-10 Feb 917, bur Reims, église abbatiale de Saint-Rémi). m ([1/18] Apr 907) as his first wife, CHARLES III "le Simple" King of the West Franks,
4. --- . m ---. One child:
"2. [REGINLIND (-11 May ----). m ([900]) THEODERICH, son of --- & his wife Mathilde --- (-8 Feb 917).]
3. FREDERUNA (-10 Feb 917, bur Reims, église abbatiale de Saint-Rémi). m ([1/18] Apr 907) as his first wife, CHARLES III "le Simple" King of the West Franks,
4. --- . m ---. One child:
a) BERENGAR (-957, bur Saint-Gereon).
Wikipédia (Fr.) identifies Frédérune as a sister of the Bishop Beuve II (Bovo, Bovon).6,7,5
Family 1 | |
Child |
|
Family 2 | Gisela (?) of Lotharingia |
Child |
|
Citations
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Frederuna: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020077&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Count Theodoricus: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020078&tree=LEO
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find A Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com : accessed 06 October 2019), memorial page for Frederonne (c.885–10 Feb 917), Find A Grave Memorial no. 6240884, citing Saint Remi Basilica, Reims, Departement de la Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France ; Maintained by Find A Grave, at: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/6240884/frederonne. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederuna. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
- [S4742] Wikipédia - L'encyclopédie libre, online https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal, Frédérune: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9rune. Hereinafter cited as Wikipédia (FR).
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Count Theodoricus: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020078&tree=LEO
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/Reims.htm#Frederunadied917. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Frederuna: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00020077&tree=LEO
unknown (?)1
F, #14512
Father | Thibaut/Theobald III de Blois Comte de Blois, Chartres, Châteaudun, Troyes, Meaux et Sancerre, et de Champagne1 b. c 1010, d. 30 Sep 1089 |
Mother | Adelaide (?) de Valois-Crépy, comtesse de Bar-sur-Aube1 d. bt 1093 - 1100 |
Last Edited | 13 Mar 2004 |
; mistress of Eustace IV, Count of Boulogne, who d. 10 Aug. 1153.1
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 32, BLOIS 5:ii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
Roger de Daunteseye of Dauntsey, co. Wiltshire1
M, #14513, d. after August 1238
Last Edited | 20 Aug 2001 |
Roger de Daunteseye of Dauntsey, co. Wiltshire married Maud Fitz Geoffrey de Mandeville Countess of Essex, daughter of Geoffrey Fitz Piers 4th Earl of Essex and Beatrice de Say.1
Roger de Daunteseye of Dauntsey, co. Wiltshire died after August 1238.1
Roger de Daunteseye of Dauntsey, co. Wiltshire died after August 1238.1
Family | Maud Fitz Geoffrey de Mandeville Countess of Essex b. c 1178, d. 27 Aug 1236 |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 34, de BOHUN 3. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
William fitz Geoffrey de Mandeville 6th Earl of Essex1,2,3,4
M, #14514, d. between 8 January 1226 and 1227
Father | Geoffrey Fitz Piers 4th Earl of Essex1,3 b. c 1166, d. 14 Oct 1213 |
Mother | Beatrice de Say3 d. b 19 Apr 1197 |
Last Edited | 23 Nov 2012 |
William fitz Geoffrey de Mandeville 6th Earl of Essex married Christian fitz Robert, daughter of Robert Fitz Walter de Clare feudal Lord of Woodham Walter and Gunnor de Valognes, before 18 November 1220
; her 1st husband.2,3,4
William fitz Geoffrey de Mandeville 6th Earl of Essex was buried circa 1226 at Shouldham Priory, co. Essex, England.2
William fitz Geoffrey de Mandeville 6th Earl of Essex died between 8 January 1226 and 1227; Ravillious says d. bef 3 June 1227, DSP.1,4,3
; Sources cited by Ravillious in his 23 May 2004 email:
1. I. J. Sanders, "English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and Descent, 1086-1327," Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.
2. "Primary Sources: English Manorial Documents," E. P. Cheyney, Jr., http://www.shsu.edu/~his_ncp/Manor.html from "English Manorial Documents," Translations and Reprints from the original Sources of European History, E. P. Cheyney, tr., vol. 3, no. 5, (Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania, 1907), pp. 3-32, includes extracts from Domesday Book (Valoins).
3. Katherine S. B. Keats-Rohan, "Domesday People," The Boydell Press, 1999, Vol. I: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166, cites Robert de Torigni, Interpolations to Gesta Normannorum Ducum of Guillaume of Jumieges, (ed. van Houts, ii, 270) and identification of Gilbert fitzRichard as uncle of Meen, seigneur de Fougeres (Rouleau Mortuaire du B. Vital abbe de Savigni, edition phototypique par L. Delisle Paris (1909), titre no. 182).
4. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 24, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Domesday Descendants, 450 and 686 (re: Hamo de St. Clare).
5. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.
6. Chris Phillips, "Re: Richard de Curcy of Newenham, Oxon - Same as Nuneham Courtenay?," Jul 28, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites VCH Oxfordshire vol. 5, pp. 237-240 re: Curci family and manor of Newenham.
7. Douglas Richardson, "FitzWalter," September 8, 2002, paper copy: library of John Ravilious, text, line of descent from Ida Longespee, daughter of William Longespee, Knt. [or his father William, Earl of Salisbury] and her husband Walter fitz Robert, of Woodham Walter, Essex & c. (d. before 10 Apr 1258).
8. D.A.Bullough and R.L.Storey, eds., "The Study of Medieval Record, Essays in honour of Kathleen Major," 'The Early Charters of the Family of Kinninmonth of that Ilk', by G. W. S. Barrow, http://sadko.ncl.ac.uk/~ndjk/Personal/Scotland/Origins/Charters.htm p. 6 = King William I confirms to Adam, son of Odo the steward, the grant made to Odo by Gilchrist, the abbot, and the convent of the culdees of St. Andrews, as in No. 2. Forfar (c. 1194).
9. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 18, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Sanders 120, 139 and Red Book of the Exchequer, p.748 re: Agnes fitz John and the Valoins family, as well as PRO E 40/3699 and PRO E 40/3958 concerning Gunnora de Essex, 'neptis' of Agnes fitz John.
10. Stewart Baldwin, "Oldest Female Line?," Nov 20, 1996, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com.
11. Frederick L. Weis, Th. D., "The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215," Baltimore: Gen Pub Co., 5th ed., 1997 (W. L. Sheppard Jr & David Faris).
12. Rosie Bevan and Cris Nash, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 23, 2003 (and previous), GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cite Complete Peerage, vol.10, p.206; Sanders p.120, 139;, Domesday Descendants, p.449-451, and prior contributions, by Chris Phillips on 15 March 2001.
13. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," 17 May 2004, cites evidence in EYC XI p. 186, EYV II no. 1110, 1186 Rotuli Dominabus (p. 80), and others.3
; her 1st husband.2,3,4
William fitz Geoffrey de Mandeville 6th Earl of Essex was buried circa 1226 at Shouldham Priory, co. Essex, England.2
William fitz Geoffrey de Mandeville 6th Earl of Essex died between 8 January 1226 and 1227; Ravillious says d. bef 3 June 1227, DSP.1,4,3
; Sources cited by Ravillious in his 23 May 2004 email:
1. I. J. Sanders, "English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and Descent, 1086-1327," Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1960.
2. "Primary Sources: English Manorial Documents," E. P. Cheyney, Jr., http://www.shsu.edu/~his_ncp/Manor.html from "English Manorial Documents," Translations and Reprints from the original Sources of European History, E. P. Cheyney, tr., vol. 3, no. 5, (Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania, 1907), pp. 3-32, includes extracts from Domesday Book (Valoins).
3. Katherine S. B. Keats-Rohan, "Domesday People," The Boydell Press, 1999, Vol. I: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents 1066-1166, cites Robert de Torigni, Interpolations to Gesta Normannorum Ducum of Guillaume of Jumieges, (ed. van Houts, ii, 270) and identification of Gilbert fitzRichard as uncle of Meen, seigneur de Fougeres (Rouleau Mortuaire du B. Vital abbe de Savigni, edition phototypique par L. Delisle Paris (1909), titre no. 182).
4. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 24, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Domesday Descendants, 450 and 686 (re: Hamo de St. Clare).
5. G. E. Cokayne, "The Complete Peerage," The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom.
6. Chris Phillips, "Re: Richard de Curcy of Newenham, Oxon - Same as Nuneham Courtenay?," Jul 28, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites VCH Oxfordshire vol. 5, pp. 237-240 re: Curci family and manor of Newenham.
7. Douglas Richardson, "FitzWalter," September 8, 2002, paper copy: library of John Ravilious, text, line of descent from Ida Longespee, daughter of William Longespee, Knt. [or his father William, Earl of Salisbury] and her husband Walter fitz Robert, of Woodham Walter, Essex & c. (d. before 10 Apr 1258).
8. D.A.Bullough and R.L.Storey, eds., "The Study of Medieval Record, Essays in honour of Kathleen Major," 'The Early Charters of the Family of Kinninmonth of that Ilk', by G. W. S. Barrow, http://sadko.ncl.ac.uk/~ndjk/Personal/Scotland/Origins/Charters.htm p. 6 = King William I confirms to Adam, son of Odo the steward, the grant made to Odo by Gilchrist, the abbot, and the convent of the culdees of St. Andrews, as in No. 2. Forfar (c. 1194).
9. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 18, 2003, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cites Sanders 120, 139 and Red Book of the Exchequer, p.748 re: Agnes fitz John and the Valoins family, as well as PRO E 40/3699 and PRO E 40/3958 concerning Gunnora de Essex, 'neptis' of Agnes fitz John.
10. Stewart Baldwin, "Oldest Female Line?," Nov 20, 1996, GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com.
11. Frederick L. Weis, Th. D., "The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215," Baltimore: Gen Pub Co., 5th ed., 1997 (W. L. Sheppard Jr & David Faris).
12. Rosie Bevan and Cris Nash, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," Apr 23, 2003 (and previous), GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com, cite Complete Peerage, vol.10, p.206; Sanders p.120, 139;, Domesday Descendants, p.449-451, and prior contributions, by Chris Phillips on 15 March 2001.
13. Rosie Bevan, "Re: Essex/Valognes/Fitz John," 17 May 2004, cites evidence in EYC XI p. 186, EYV II no. 1110, 1186 Rotuli Dominabus (p. 80), and others.3
Family | Christian fitz Robert d. c 17 Jun 1232 |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 34, de BOHUN 3. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, pp. 87-88, Fitz GEOFFREY 2:ii.
- [S1639] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 23 May 2004: "Re: Peter de Valognes/Peter de Valence/Piers de Valoins"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/v8KdQqA2zSY/m/uz35oFhwDgwJ) to e-mail address, 23 May 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 23 May 2004."
- [S1784] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 29 July 2005 "Re: Descendants of Sir Richard de Lucy and Rohese of Boulogne"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/F9_d7JZUuk0/m/5jgR9n064yQJ) to e-mail address, 29 July 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 29 July 2005."
Maud d'Avenbury1,2,3
F, #14515, d. 8 October 1273
Last Edited | 25 May 2009 |
Maud d'Avenbury married Humphrey V de Bohun 2nd Earl of Hereford, Earl of Essex, son of Henry de Bohun 1st Earl of Hereford, Sheriff of Kent, Constable of England and Maud Fitz Geoffrey de Mandeville Countess of Essex,
; his 2nd wife.1,4,2,3
Maud d'Avenbury died on 8 October 1273 at Sorges, Gascony, France.1,2,3
; his 2nd wife.1,4,2,3
Maud d'Avenbury died on 8 October 1273 at Sorges, Gascony, France.1,2,3
Family | Humphrey V de Bohun 2nd Earl of Hereford, Earl of Essex b. b 1208, d. 24 Sep 1275 |
Child |
|
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 34-35, de BOHUN 4. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud de Avenbury: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00015451&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bohun.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Humphrey de Bohun: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00015449&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, John de Bohun: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00397882&tree=LEO
Anselm Marshal Earl of Pembroke1
M, #14516, b. circa 1212, d. 23 December 1245
Father | William Marshal 1st Earl of Pembroke2,3,4 b. c 1146, d. 14 May 1219 |
Mother | Isabella de Clare Countess of Strigoil3,4 b. 1173, d. 1220 |
Last Edited | 20 Jul 2020 |
Anselm Marshal Earl of Pembroke was buried at Tintern Abbey, Tintern, Monmouthshire, Wales, England; From Find A Grave:
BIRTH 1208, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales
DEATH 23 Dec 1245 (aged 36–37), Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales
Anselm Marshal was the sixth Earl of Pembroke (of the second creation) and Earl Marshal of England, the youngest and last of the five sons of William Marshal to hold that post. He succeeded his brother Walter on 24 November 1245 and lived for a month, dying at Chepstow Castle and being buried in Tintern Abbey.
When William Marshal was composing his will in 1219, he originally intended to allot nothing to his youngest son, Anselm, who was named after William's younger brother. It has been suspected that he wished for the young Anselm to rise from low rank to high on his own merits as William himself had done as a young knight errant. His advisors, however, convinced the ailing Marshal to grant Anselm a small piece of land.
Anselm was married to Maud, the daughter of Humphrey de Bohun, Earl of Hereford and Essex. They had no children and Anselm's estates were divided between his four surviving sisters, Isabella, Sibyl, Eva, and Joan, and their husbands. The earldom of Pembroke lay vacant until 1247, when it was recreated for William de Valence, husband of Joan de Munchensi, heiress of Anselm's sister Joan and her husband Warin de Munchensi.
Family Members
Parents
William Marshal 1146–1219
Isabel de Clare 1172–1220
Spouse
Maud de Bohun Quincy unknown–1252
Siblings
William Marshal 1190–1231 (m. 1224)
Matilda Marshal De Warenne 1192–1248
Gilbert Marshal 1194–1241
Walter Marshal 1196–1245
Isabel Marshal de Clare 1200–1240
Sibyl Marshal 1201–1245
Eva Marshal de Braose 1203–1246
Gravesite Details Note that the current Wikipedia article for Anselm claims that he died too soon after his older brother (Walter) to be confirmed as the 6th Earl of Pembroke (or Marshal of England?). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anselm_Marshal
BURIAL Tintern Abbey, Tintern, Monmouthshire, Wales
Created by: Mad
Added: 12 May 2011
Find a Grave Memorial 69748643.5 He was born circa 1212; Racines et Histoire (Bohun) says b. ca 1212; Genealogics says b. ca 1206.6,3
Anselm Marshal Earl of Pembroke was buried circa 1245 at Tintern Abbey, England.2
Anselm Marshal Earl of Pembroke died on 23 December 1245 at Chepstow, Monmouthshire, England; Med Lands says d. 22/24 Dec 1245.1,6,3,4 He married Maud/Matilda de Bohun, daughter of Humphrey V de Bohun 2nd Earl of Hereford, Earl of Essex and Mahaut/Maud d'Eu de Lusignan,
;
Her 1st husband.1,2,7,8,9,10,11,3,4
; Per Med Lands:
"MATILDA de Bohun (-Groby, Lincolnshire 20 Oct 1252, bur Brackley). The History of the foundation of Walden abbey names “Matilidis filia sua, Humfredus filius suus primogenitus, Henricus et Radulfus fratres eius” as children of “Humfridum de Bohun filium domini Henrici de Bohun comitis Herefordiæ” and his wife “Matildi”[547]. A manuscript which narrates the descents of the founders of Lanthony Abbey names “Matildis..Alicia” as the first two of the four daughters of “Henricus [mistake for Humfredus] quintus de Bohun comes Hereford et Essex et constabularius Angliæ et dominus Henricus de Bohun” and his wife “Matildem filiam comitis de Ewe in Normannia”, adding that Matilda married “Ancelmo filio et hæredi Willielmi le Mareschall”[548]. A charter dated 19 Jan 1246 mandates the grant to "Matilda who was the wife of Anselm Marshall…[of] 60 librates of land in Ireland, for her maintenance until the king shall cause her dower to be assigned to her out of Anselm’s lands"[549].
"m firstly ANSELM Marshal, son of WILLIAM Marshal Earl of Pembroke & his wife Isabel de Clare Ctss of Pembroke (-Chepstow [22/24] Dec 1245, bur Tintern Abbey). He succeeded his brother in 1245 as Earl of Pembroke.
"m secondly (before 5 Jun 1250) as his second wife, ROGER de Quincy Earl of Winchester, son of SAHER de Quincy Earl of Winchester & his wife Margaret of Leicester (-25 Apr 1264, bur [Brackley])."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Genealogy.EU (de Bohun): “E2. Maud, +Groby 20.10.1252, bur Brackley; 1m: Anselm Marshall, Earl of Pembroke (+Chepstow 22.12.1245); 2m: 5.6.1250 Roger de Quincy, 2d Earl of Winchester (+25.4.1264)”.12
; Per Racines et Histoire (de Bohun): “Maud de Bohun ° ~1230/32
ép. 1) Anseau (Anselme) Marshall ° ~1212 + 1245 6ème earl of Pembroke
ép. 2) Roger de Quincy + 25/04/1264 2ème earl of Winchester ”.6
; This is the same person as ”Anselm Marshal” at Wikipedia.13
Reference: Genealogics cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"ANSELM (-Chepstow [22/24] Dec 1245, bur Tintern Abbey[1346]). The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire, names (in order) ”Willihelmus, Richardus, Gilbertus, Walterus et Ancellimus” as sons of “Willielmi Marescalli comitis Penbrochiæ”, adding that each succeeded in turn as earl of Pembroke and died without children[1347]. He succeeded his brother in 1245 as Earl of Pembroke, hereditary Master Marshal. The Annales Cambriæ record the death in 1246 of "Anselmus Marescallus apud Striguil" and his burial "apud Tinternam"[1348].
"m as her first husband, MATILDA de Bohun, daughter of HUMPHREY de Bohun Earl of Hereford and Essex & his wife Matilda de Mandeville (-Groby, Lincolnshire 20 Oct 1252, bur Brackley). A charter dated 19 Jan 1246 mandates the grant to "Matilda who was the wife of Anselm Marshall…[of] 60 librates of land in Ireland, for her maintenance until the king shall cause her dower to be assigned to her out of Anselm’s lands"[1349]. She married secondly ([Jan 1246/5 Jun 1250]) as his second wife, Roger de Quincy Earl of Winchester. "
Med Lands cites:
BIRTH 1208, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales
DEATH 23 Dec 1245 (aged 36–37), Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales
Anselm Marshal was the sixth Earl of Pembroke (of the second creation) and Earl Marshal of England, the youngest and last of the five sons of William Marshal to hold that post. He succeeded his brother Walter on 24 November 1245 and lived for a month, dying at Chepstow Castle and being buried in Tintern Abbey.
When William Marshal was composing his will in 1219, he originally intended to allot nothing to his youngest son, Anselm, who was named after William's younger brother. It has been suspected that he wished for the young Anselm to rise from low rank to high on his own merits as William himself had done as a young knight errant. His advisors, however, convinced the ailing Marshal to grant Anselm a small piece of land.
Anselm was married to Maud, the daughter of Humphrey de Bohun, Earl of Hereford and Essex. They had no children and Anselm's estates were divided between his four surviving sisters, Isabella, Sibyl, Eva, and Joan, and their husbands. The earldom of Pembroke lay vacant until 1247, when it was recreated for William de Valence, husband of Joan de Munchensi, heiress of Anselm's sister Joan and her husband Warin de Munchensi.
Family Members
Parents
William Marshal 1146–1219
Isabel de Clare 1172–1220
Spouse
Maud de Bohun Quincy unknown–1252
Siblings
William Marshal 1190–1231 (m. 1224)
Matilda Marshal De Warenne 1192–1248
Gilbert Marshal 1194–1241
Walter Marshal 1196–1245
Isabel Marshal de Clare 1200–1240
Sibyl Marshal 1201–1245
Eva Marshal de Braose 1203–1246
Gravesite Details Note that the current Wikipedia article for Anselm claims that he died too soon after his older brother (Walter) to be confirmed as the 6th Earl of Pembroke (or Marshal of England?). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anselm_Marshal
BURIAL Tintern Abbey, Tintern, Monmouthshire, Wales
Created by: Mad
Added: 12 May 2011
Find a Grave Memorial 69748643.5 He was born circa 1212; Racines et Histoire (Bohun) says b. ca 1212; Genealogics says b. ca 1206.6,3
Anselm Marshal Earl of Pembroke was buried circa 1245 at Tintern Abbey, England.2
Anselm Marshal Earl of Pembroke died on 23 December 1245 at Chepstow, Monmouthshire, England; Med Lands says d. 22/24 Dec 1245.1,6,3,4 He married Maud/Matilda de Bohun, daughter of Humphrey V de Bohun 2nd Earl of Hereford, Earl of Essex and Mahaut/Maud d'Eu de Lusignan,
;
Her 1st husband.1,2,7,8,9,10,11,3,4
; Per Med Lands:
"MATILDA de Bohun (-Groby, Lincolnshire 20 Oct 1252, bur Brackley). The History of the foundation of Walden abbey names “Matilidis filia sua, Humfredus filius suus primogenitus, Henricus et Radulfus fratres eius” as children of “Humfridum de Bohun filium domini Henrici de Bohun comitis Herefordiæ” and his wife “Matildi”[547]. A manuscript which narrates the descents of the founders of Lanthony Abbey names “Matildis..Alicia” as the first two of the four daughters of “Henricus [mistake for Humfredus] quintus de Bohun comes Hereford et Essex et constabularius Angliæ et dominus Henricus de Bohun” and his wife “Matildem filiam comitis de Ewe in Normannia”, adding that Matilda married “Ancelmo filio et hæredi Willielmi le Mareschall”[548]. A charter dated 19 Jan 1246 mandates the grant to "Matilda who was the wife of Anselm Marshall…[of] 60 librates of land in Ireland, for her maintenance until the king shall cause her dower to be assigned to her out of Anselm’s lands"[549].
"m firstly ANSELM Marshal, son of WILLIAM Marshal Earl of Pembroke & his wife Isabel de Clare Ctss of Pembroke (-Chepstow [22/24] Dec 1245, bur Tintern Abbey). He succeeded his brother in 1245 as Earl of Pembroke.
"m secondly (before 5 Jun 1250) as his second wife, ROGER de Quincy Earl of Winchester, son of SAHER de Quincy Earl of Winchester & his wife Margaret of Leicester (-25 Apr 1264, bur [Brackley])."
Med Lands cites:
[547] Dugdale Monasticon IV, Walden Abbey, Essex, I, Fundationis Historia, p. 139.
[548] Dugdale Monasticon VI, Lanthony Abbey, Gloucestershire, II, Fundatorum progenies, p. 135.
[549] Calendar of Documents Ireland, Vol. I, 2804, p. 419.11
[548] Dugdale Monasticon VI, Lanthony Abbey, Gloucestershire, II, Fundatorum progenies, p. 135.
[549] Calendar of Documents Ireland, Vol. I, 2804, p. 419.11
; Per Genealogy.EU (de Bohun): “E2. Maud, +Groby 20.10.1252, bur Brackley; 1m: Anselm Marshall, Earl of Pembroke (+Chepstow 22.12.1245); 2m: 5.6.1250 Roger de Quincy, 2d Earl of Winchester (+25.4.1264)”.12
; Per Racines et Histoire (de Bohun): “Maud de Bohun ° ~1230/32
ép. 1) Anseau (Anselme) Marshall ° ~1212 + 1245 6ème earl of Pembroke
ép. 2) Roger de Quincy + 25/04/1264 2ème earl of Winchester ”.6
; This is the same person as ”Anselm Marshal” at Wikipedia.13
Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. A Genealogical History of the dormant, abeyant, forfeited and extinct peerages of the British Empire, London, 1866, Burke, Sir Bernard. 359.
2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. 10:376.3
2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. 10:376.3
; Per Med Lands:
"ANSELM (-Chepstow [22/24] Dec 1245, bur Tintern Abbey[1346]). The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire, names (in order) ”Willihelmus, Richardus, Gilbertus, Walterus et Ancellimus” as sons of “Willielmi Marescalli comitis Penbrochiæ”, adding that each succeeded in turn as earl of Pembroke and died without children[1347]. He succeeded his brother in 1245 as Earl of Pembroke, hereditary Master Marshal. The Annales Cambriæ record the death in 1246 of "Anselmus Marescallus apud Striguil" and his burial "apud Tinternam"[1348].
"m as her first husband, MATILDA de Bohun, daughter of HUMPHREY de Bohun Earl of Hereford and Essex & his wife Matilda de Mandeville (-Groby, Lincolnshire 20 Oct 1252, bur Brackley). A charter dated 19 Jan 1246 mandates the grant to "Matilda who was the wife of Anselm Marshall…[of] 60 librates of land in Ireland, for her maintenance until the king shall cause her dower to be assigned to her out of Anselm’s lands"[1349]. She married secondly ([Jan 1246/5 Jun 1250]) as his second wife, Roger de Quincy Earl of Winchester. "
Med Lands cites:
[1346] Matthew Paris, Vol. IV, 1245, p. 491.
[1347] Dugdale Monasticon V, Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire IV, In Chronicis Abbatiæ Tynterne in Wallia, p. 270.
[1348] Annales Cambriæ, p. 86.
[1349] Calendar of Documents Ireland, Vol. I, 2804, p. 419.4
[1347] Dugdale Monasticon V, Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire IV, In Chronicis Abbatiæ Tynterne in Wallia, p. 270.
[1348] Annales Cambriæ, p. 86.
[1349] Calendar of Documents Ireland, Vol. I, 2804, p. 419.4
Family | Maud/Matilda de Bohun b. bt 1230 - 1232, d. 20 Oct 1252 |
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), pp. 34-35, de BOHUN 4:iii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 149, MARSHAL 3:v.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Anselme Marshal: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00315268&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#AnselmMarshalPembrokedied1245. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S2374] Find a Grave, online http://www.findagrave.com/, Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com: accessed 20 July 2020), memorial page for Anselm Marshal (1208–23 Dec 1245), Find a Grave Memorial no. 69748643, citing Tintern Abbey, Tintern, Monmouthshire, Wales; Maintained by Mad (contributor 47329061), https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/69748643/anselm-marshal. Hereinafter cited as Find a Grave.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Famille de Bohun, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bohun.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1429] Unknown compiler, Notable British Families 1600s-1900s from Burke's Peerage., CD-ROM (n.p.: Broderbund Software Company, 1999), Notable British Families, Burke's Dromant, Abeyant, Forgeited, and Extinct Peerages, p. 57. Hereinafter cited as Notable British Families CD # 367.
- [S1896] Douglas Richardson, "Richardson email 22 June 2005: "Extended Pedigree of Counts of Boulogne-sur-Mer"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/44eb7V2WEXc/m/5ixO37yx3noJ) to e-mail address, 22 June 2005. Hereinafter cited as "Richardson email 22 June 2005."
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bohun.pdf, p. 3.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maud de Bohun: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027702&tree=LEO
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL.htm#MaudBohunM1AnselmMarshallPembroke
- [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, de Bohun Family: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brit/bohun.html
- [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anselm_Marshal. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
Roger Seymour1
M, #14517
Father | John Seymour Esq., of Wolf Hall1 b. c 1450, d. 26 Oct 1491 |
Mother | (?) Hardon1 |
Last Edited | 18 Nov 2002 |
Roger Seymour died; dspm.1
Citations
- [S1396] Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site, online http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/peerageandgentry/sitepages/home.asp, Somerset Family Page. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage & Gentry Web Site.
Joan de Quincy1,2,3
F, #14518, b. circa 1245, d. 25 November 1283
Father | Robert III de Quincy Lord of Ware, of Colne Quincy, Essex1,4,5,3 d. Aug 1257 |
Mother | Elen ferch Llewellyn ab Iorwerth1,6,5,3 b. 1207, d. 1253 |
Last Edited | 25 May 2009 |
Joan de Quincy was born circa 1245.3 She married Sir Humphrey VI de Bohun Lord Bohun, châtelain de Winchester, son of Humphrey V de Bohun 2nd Earl of Hereford, Earl of Essex and Mahaut/Maud d'Eu de Lusignan, circa 1260
; his 2nd wife.1,2,5,3
Joan de Quincy died on 25 November 1283.1,5,3
; van de Pas cites: 1. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: VI 463
2. Descendants of Leofric of Mercia 2002 , Ravilious, John & Rosie Bevan, Reference: date of death.5
; his 2nd wife.1,2,5,3
Joan de Quincy died on 25 November 1283.1,5,3
; van de Pas cites: 1. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden, Reference: VI 463
2. Descendants of Leofric of Mercia 2002 , Ravilious, John & Rosie Bevan, Reference: date of death.5
Family | Sir Humphrey VI de Bohun Lord Bohun, châtelain de Winchester d. 27 Oct 1265 |
Child |
|
Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 35, de BOHUN 5. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 211, de QUINCY 5:ii.
- [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bohun.pdf, p. 3. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert de Quincy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00140303&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Joan de Quincy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00309493&tree=LEO
- [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elen ferch Llywelyn of Wales: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00140304&tree=LEO
John de Bohun1,2
M, #14519
Father | Sir Humphrey VI de Bohun Lord Bohun, châtelain de Winchester2 d. 27 Oct 1265 |
Last Edited | 20 Aug 2001 |
John de Bohun was Constable of England in 1282.2
Citations
- Mother unknown.
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 35, de BOHUN 5:iii. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
Walter III de Bolbec Lord of Whitchurch1,2
M, #14520, d. before 1185
Father | Hugh II de Bolbec of Whitchurch, Bucks.1,3 d. bt 1165 - 1166 |
Last Edited | 9 Mar 2020 |
Walter III de Bolbec Lord of Whitchurch died before 1185; Med Lands says d. 1190.1,4,3
; Per Med Lands:
"WALTER de Bolebec (-1190). The 1165/66 Pipe Roll records "Walt de Bolebec" owing a fine for "custodia terre nepotis sui" in Buckinghamshire/Bedfordshire, indicating the recent death of Walter’s brother, father of the unnamed nephew who must still have been a minor at that date[972]. The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Custodianship of the minor Walter was transferred to Renaud de Courtenay: the 1167/68 Pipe Roll records Renaud de Courtenay in Buckinghamshire/Bedfordshire owing for “mil. Walti de Bolebec qui est in custodia eius” and in Kent “de feod Walti de Bolebek”[973]. Similar entries occur in the 1168/69, 1169/70 and 1170/71 Pipe Rolls. The reason for the change in custodianship has not been ascertained. m ---. The name of Walter’s wife is not known."
Med Lands cites:
; Per Med Lands:
"WALTER de Bolebec (-1190). The 1165/66 Pipe Roll records "Walt de Bolebec" owing a fine for "custodia terre nepotis sui" in Buckinghamshire/Bedfordshire, indicating the recent death of Walter’s brother, father of the unnamed nephew who must still have been a minor at that date[972]. The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Custodianship of the minor Walter was transferred to Renaud de Courtenay: the 1167/68 Pipe Roll records Renaud de Courtenay in Buckinghamshire/Bedfordshire owing for “mil. Walti de Bolebec qui est in custodia eius” and in Kent “de feod Walti de Bolebek”[973]. Similar entries occur in the 1168/69, 1169/70 and 1170/71 Pipe Rolls. The reason for the change in custodianship has not been ascertained. m ---. The name of Walter’s wife is not known."
Med Lands cites:
[972] Pipe Roll 12 Hen II (1165/66), p. 12.
[973] Pipe Roll 14 Hen II (1167/68), pp. 11, 154.3
[973] Pipe Roll 14 Hen II (1167/68), pp. 11, 154.3
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Child |
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Citations
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Medieval English Ancestors of Certain Americans: Many of the English Ancestral Lines Prior to 1300 of those Colonial Americans with known Royal Ancestry but Fully Developed in all Possible Lines (PO Box 220333, Santa Clarita, CA 91322-0333: Carl Boyer 3rd, 2001), p. 36, de BOLBEC 2:i. Hereinafter cited as Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors.
- [S757] Compiled by Carl Boyer 3rd, Boyer [2001] Med English Ancestors, p. 253, de VERE of Oxford 3:i.
- [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntac.htm#_Toc21078999. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
- [S1639] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 23 May 2004: "Re: Peter de Valognes/Peter de Valence/Piers de Valoins"," e-mail message from e-mail address (https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/v8KdQqA2zSY/m/uz35oFhwDgwJ) to e-mail address, 23 May 2004. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 23 May 2004."
- [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntac.htm#IsabelBolebecdied1206