Hugues (?) de Bar1,2

M, #57391, d. 25 July 1192
FatherRenaud/Reinald II 'Le Jeune' (?) Comte de Bar, Mousson et Brie1,2 b. c 1115, d. 25 Jul 1170
MotherAgnès de Blois de Champagne, dame de Ligny-en-Barrois1,2 b. 1138, d. 7 Aug 1207
Last Edited15 May 2009
     Hugues (?) de Bar died on 25 July 1192.2
     Hugues (?) de Bar
a canon in Chartres at Chartres, France (now).1

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bar 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar1.html
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Nanteuil-Le-Haudouin.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Agnes de Bar1,2,3

F, #57392, b. 1189, d. before 1225
FatherThibault/Theobald I (Jean) (?) Comte de Bar-le-Duc, Mousson, Briey, Stenay, Longwy et Ligny1,2,3,4 b. bt 1158 - 1160, d. 13 Feb 1214
MotherErmesinde/Isabelle de Brienne1,2,5,3 d. c 1211
Last Edited18 Dec 2019
     Agnes de Bar was born in 1189.3 She married Hugues V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, comte de Blois et de St.Pol, son of Gaucher III de Châtillon Comte de St. Pol, Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne, Croissy, Crécy, Montjay, Crécy et Pierrefonds and Elisabeth (?) Comtesse de St. Pol, circa 1216; his 1st wife.1,2,3
Agnes de Bar died before 1225.3
     Agnes de Bar
Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 17.2 She was living in 1225.2

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bar 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar1.html
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnès de Bar: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026505&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thibaud I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026498&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermesinde de Bar: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026500&tree=LEO

Richilde (alisa Mathilde) (?)1,2

F, #57393, b. circa 1080
ReferenceGAV25
Last Edited1 Aug 2009
     Richilde (alisa Mathilde) (?) married Fastre II (Fastradus) (?) d'Oisy, Vogt of Doornick, avoué de Tournai, son of Fastre I (?) d'Oisy, Vogt of Doornick, avoué de Tournai and Ida/Ade (?) d'Avesnes.1,3,4,2,5 Richilde (alisa Mathilde) (?) was born circa 1080.1,2
     GAV-25.

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 3 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders3.html
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Aubigne.pdf, p. 2. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Fastre II d'Oisy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120746&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2121] John P. Ravilious, "Ravilious email 4 Jan 2007: "the house of Avesnes, and the advocates of Tournai"," e-mail message from e-mail address (unknown address) to e-mail address, 4 Jan 2007. Hereinafter cited as "Ravilious email 4 Jan 2007."
  5. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Avesnes.pdf, p. 2.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Wautier I d'Oisy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120748&tree=LEO

Marguerite de Bar1,2,3

F, #57394, b. 1193, d. after 1259
FatherThibault/Theobald I (Jean) (?) Comte de Bar-le-Duc, Mousson, Briey, Stenay, Longwy et Ligny1,3,4 b. bt 1158 - 1160, d. 13 Feb 1214
MotherErmesinde/Isabelle de Brienne1,5,3 d. c 1211
Last Edited18 Dec 2019
     Marguerite de Bar was born in 1193.3 She married Heinrich III (?) Graf von Salm, seigneur de Viviers, son of Heinrich II (?) Graf zu Salm and Judith (?) de Lorraine, before August 1221; her 1st husband.2,1,6,3 Marguerite de Bar married Henri (?) de Dampierre before 1245; her 2nd husband.1,3
Marguerite de Bar died after 1259.1,7,3
     Marguerite de Bar
Margaret, +after 1259; 1m: 1221 Heinrich III von Salm (*ca 1191 +1228); 2m: before 1245 Henri de Dampierre (+1259.)1

Marguerite de Bar
Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels Fürstliche Häuser , Reference: 1955 109
2. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VI 147
3. Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: III 134.7

Marguerite de Bar and Marguerite de Bar
Leo van de Pas and Genealogy.EU (Bar 1 page) disagree over the husbands of the two half sisters, both named Margaret/Marguerite. Bar 1 page says that the Margaret born of Ermesinde de Bar m1. Heinrich III von Salm and m2. Henri de Dampierre. Bar 1 says that her half sister, born of Ermesinde de Luxemburg, m. Hugues III de Vaudemont. Leo shows both half sisters, but says that Margaret born of Ermesinde de Bar m1. Heinrich III von Salm and m2. Hugues III de Vaudemont. He shows no wife for her the other Margaret, her half sister. [GAVaut 29 May 2004]8,7,1

Family 1

Heinrich III (?) Graf von Salm, seigneur de Viviers b. c 1191, d. a 21 Sep 1228
Child

Family 2

Henri (?) de Dampierre d. 1259

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bar 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar1.html
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg4.html
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thibaud I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026498&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermesinde de Bar: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026500&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Heinrich III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026406&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marguerite de Bar: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026407&tree=LEO
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marguerite de Bar: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026508&tree=LEO

Heinrich III (?) Graf von Salm, seigneur de Viviers1,2,3

M, #57395, b. circa 1191, d. after 21 September 1228
FatherHeinrich II (?) Graf zu Salm4,2,3 b. c 1160, d. 1225
MotherJudith (?) de Lorraine2,5,3 b. c 1171, d. a Mar 1224
Last Edited15 May 2009
     Heinrich III (?) Graf von Salm, seigneur de Viviers was born circa 1191.1,3 He married Marguerite de Bar, daughter of Thibault/Theobald I (Jean) (?) Comte de Bar-le-Duc, Mousson, Briey, Stenay, Longwy et Ligny and Ermesinde/Isabelle de Brienne, before August 1221; her 1st husband.1,6,2,3
Heinrich III (?) Graf von Salm, seigneur de Viviers died after 21 September 1228.1,3
     Heinrich III (?) Graf von Salm, seigneur de Viviers
Leo van de Pas cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: III 134.2

Heinrich III (?) Graf von Salm, seigneur de Viviers
Heinrich von Salm, sn de Viviers, *ca 1191, +1228; m.before VIII.1221 Margaret de Bar-Mousson (+after 1259.)1

Family

Marguerite de Bar b. 1193, d. a 1259
Child

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg4.html
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Heinrich III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026406&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Heinrich II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026401&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Judith de Lorraine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026402&tree=LEO
  6. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Bar 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar1.html

Henri (?) de Dampierre1,2

M, #57396, d. 1259
Last Edited15 May 2009

Family 1

Marguerite de Bar b. 1205, d. bt 1259 - 1270

Family 2

Marguerite de Bar b. 1193, d. a 1259

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bar 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar1.html
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Reinald/Renaud de Bar seigneur de Briey, Arrancy et Marville1,2

M, #57397, d. before 1214
FatherThibault/Theobald I (Jean) (?) Comte de Bar-le-Duc, Mousson, Briey, Stenay, Longwy et Ligny1,2,4 b. bt 1158 - 1160, d. 13 Feb 1214
MotherErmensinde (Eremansette) (?) de Namur, Gräfin von Luxembourg1,3,2 b. Jul 1186, d. 12 Feb 1247
Last Edited18 Dec 2019
     Reinald/Renaud de Bar seigneur de Briey, Arrancy et Marville died before 1214.1,2

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bar 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar1.html
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermesinde de Namur: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026501&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thibaud I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026498&tree=LEO

Isabeau (Elisabeth) de Bar1,2,3

F, #57398, b. circa 1200, d. between 11 April 1262 and 1 August 1262
FatherThibault/Theobald I (Jean) (?) Comte de Bar-le-Duc, Mousson, Briey, Stenay, Longwy et Ligny1,3,4,5,6 b. bt 1158 - 1160, d. 13 Feb 1214
MotherErmensinde (Eremansette) (?) de Namur, Gräfin von Luxembourg1,7,3,4,6 b. Jul 1186, d. 12 Feb 1247
ReferenceGAV25
Last Edited14 Mar 2020
     Isabeau (Elisabeth) de Bar was born circa 1200; Racines et Hist. says b. ca 1200; Genealogics says b. ca 1208.3,6 She married Walram I von Limburg Hr zu Monschau (Montjoie) und Poilvache, son of Walram/Waleran IV (?) Marquis d'Arlon, Duke of Limburg, Count of Luxemburg and Kunigunde (?) of Lorraine, circa 1218; Leo van de Pas says m. 1218.1,2,8,3,6
Isabeau (Elisabeth) de Bar died between 11 April 1262 and 1 August 1262.1,3,6
     Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Kwartieren van Hendrik III en Willem de Rijke van Nassau, Geldrop, 1965, Roo van Alderwerelt, G. F. de. 313.
2. La Maison Ducale de Bar, Rupt-sur-Moselle, 1977. , Poull, Georges. 162.
3. Europäische Stammtafeln, Band II, Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven, 1975, Isenburg, W. K. Prinz von. Page 6.6

Isabeau (Elisabeth) de Bar lived at an unknown place ; GAV-25.

Family

Walram I von Limburg Hr zu Monschau (Montjoie) und Poilvache d. 20 Apr 1242
Child

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bar 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar1.html
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 8 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg8.html
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 7.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thibaud I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026498&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elisabeth (Isabella) de Bar: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026507&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermesinde de Namur: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026501&tree=LEO
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Walram V von Limburg: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026540&tree=LEO
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bertha de Montjoie: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00021713&tree=LEO
  10. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LIMBURG.htm#Berthadied1254. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Walram I von Limburg Hr zu Monschau (Montjoie) und Poilvache1,2,3,4

M, #57399, d. 20 April 1242
FatherWalram/Waleran IV (?) Marquis d'Arlon, Duke of Limburg, Count of Luxemburg2,5,4,6,7 b. 1180, d. 2 Jul 1226
MotherKunigunde (?) of Lorraine8,2,9,4 d. 1214
ReferenceGAV25
Last Edited14 Mar 2020
     Walram I von Limburg Hr zu Monschau (Montjoie) und Poilvache married Isabeau (Elisabeth) de Bar, daughter of Thibault/Theobald I (Jean) (?) Comte de Bar-le-Duc, Mousson, Briey, Stenay, Longwy et Ligny and Ermensinde (Eremansette) (?) de Namur, Gräfin von Luxembourg, circa 1218; Leo van de Pas says m. 1218.1,2,3,4,10
Walram I von Limburg Hr zu Monschau (Montjoie) und Poilvache died on 20 April 1242; killed in battle.1,2,3,4
     Walram I von Limburg Hr zu Monschau (Montjoie) und Poilvache
Per Genealogics: "Walram was the son of Walram IV, duke of Limburg, and his first wife Kunigunde von Monschau. As the younger son he was entrusted with Montjoie, formerly his mother's estate, by his elder brother Heinrich IV, the duke of Limburg. He already held the estate of Fauquemont. About 1218 he was betrothed to Elisabeth (Isabella) de Bar, lady of Poilvache, daughter of Thibaud I, comte de Bar et Luxembourg, and Ermesinde de Namur, comtesse de Luxembourg, who had married his father in 1214 soon after Thibaud's death. Through his marriage he became lord of Poilvache by right of his wife. They had three children of whom their daughter Bertha would have progeny with her second husband Dirk II von Heinsberg, Heer van Valkenburg. Walram died in battle after 20 April 1242."11 Walram I von Limburg Hr zu Monschau (Montjoie) und Poilvache lived at an unknown place ; GAV-25.

Reference: Genealogics cites:
1. Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: II 6.
2. Kwartieren van Hendrik III en Willem de Rijke van Nassau Geldrop, 1965, G. F. de Roo van Alderwerelt.11

Walram I von Limburg Hr zu Monschau (Montjoie) und Poilvache was also known as Walram V van Limburg, Sire de Montjoie et Sittard.3 Walram I von Limburg Hr zu Monschau (Montjoie) und Poilvache was also known as Waleran V (ou 1er) «Le Long» de Limburg, seigneur de Montjoie (Monschau) et de Poilevache.4 Walram I von Limburg Hr zu Monschau (Montjoie) und Poilvache was also known as Walram V von Limburg Sire de Montjoie & Sittard.11

Family

Isabeau (Elisabeth) de Bar b. c 1200, d. bt 11 Apr 1262 - 1 Aug 1262
Child

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bar 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar1.html
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 8 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg8.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Walram V von Limburg: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026540&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Walram IV: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026504&tree=LEO
  6. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LIMBURG.htm#WaleranIVdied1226B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  7. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Duché de Limbourg, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Limbourg.pdf
  8. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Lorraine 11 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/lorraine/lorraine11.html
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Kunigunde von Monschau: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026539&tree=LEO
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Elisabeth (Isabella) de Bar: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026507&tree=LEO
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Walram V von Limburg: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026540&tree=LEO
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Bertha de Montjoie: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00021713&tree=LEO
  13. [S2261] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 1st edition (n.p.: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 2004), Cornwall 4: pp. 230-231. Hereinafter cited as Richardson PA.
  14. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LIMBURG.htm#Berthadied1254

Kunigunde (?) of Lorraine1

F, #57400, d. 1214
FatherFrederick I (?) Duke of Lorriane, Duke von Bitsch2 b. c 1143, d. 7 Apr 1206
MotherWierzchoslawa Ludmilla (?) of Poland2 b. c 1150, d. 1223
ReferenceGAV25
Last Edited14 Mar 2020
     Kunigunde (?) of Lorraine married Walram/Waleran IV (?) Marquis d'Arlon, Duke of Limburg, Count of Luxemburg, son of Heinrich III (?) Duke of Limburg, Graf von Arlon and Sophie (?) von Saarbrücken, between 1190 and 1197;
His 1st wife.3,4,5,6,7,2,8
Kunigunde (?) of Lorraine died in 1214; Genealogics says d. 1214; Med Lands says d. bef 1213.6,2
     GAV-25.

Reference: Genealogics cites: De Graven van Limburg-Stirum, Assen/Amsterdam, 1976. 9 volumes., Reference: II-1 p33.6


Kunigunde (?) of Lorraine
NB: Genealogics and Med Lands disagree on the parents of Kunigunde/Cunegonde who m. Walram IV. Genealogy.EU agrees with Med Lands.
     Genealogics identifies her father as Ludwig von Monschau (no mother named).
     Med Lands says that she is the dau. of "FERRY I Duke of Lorraine Herzog von Bitsch & his wife Wierchos?awa Ludmilla of Poland"
     Genealogy.EU (Lorraine 1) says she is the dau. of "Frederick I, Duke von Bitsch, Duke of Lorraine (1205-06), *before 1152, +7.4..1206; m.1150-60 Ludmilla (*ca 1150 +1223) dau.of Duke Miecislaw of Poland"
     I have chosen to follow the lineage shown by Med Lands. GA Vaut.2,9,10,11

Kunigunde (?) of Lorraine
Per Med Lands:
     "CUNEGONDE de Lorraine (-before 1213). She and her husband made a donation to the abbey of Fraulautem in 1211 in memory of Ferry II Duke of Lorraine and his wife[187]. Her marriage is confirmed by the charter dated 1237 under which her son "Heinricus…dux in Limburg et comes in Nienbr, et Ermengardis ducissa et comitissa ibidem" donated property to Vrundenberg abbey, with the consent of "heredum nostrorum Walrami…et Adolfi", for the souls of "beate memorie…domini Engelberti Coloniensis archiepiscopi…et patrum et matrum nostrarum…Walrami et Cunegundis, Adolfi et Berthe"[188].
     "m as his first wife, WALERAN de Limbourg Seigneur de Montjoie, son of HENDRIK III Duke of Limburg & his wife Sophie [von Saarbrücken] (-Cremona 2 Jul 1226, bur Rode Abbey). He succeeded his father in 1221 as WALRAM III Duke of Limburg.
     "Duke Walram III & his first wife had four children."
Med Lands cites:
[187] Poull (1991), p. 49.
[188] Ernst, S. P. (1847) Histoire de Limbourg, Tome VI (Liège), Tome VI, CLII, p. 218.2
Kunigunde (?) of Lorraine was also known as Cunegonde de Lorraine.2 Kunigunde (?) of Lorraine was also known as Kunigunde (?) von Monschau.6

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Lorraine 11 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/lorraine/lorraine11.html
  2. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LORRAINE.htm#Kunigundediedbefore1213. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Lorraine 11 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/lorraine/lorraine11.html
  4. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 8 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg8.html
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Walram IV: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026504&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Kunigunde von Monschau: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026539&tree=LEO
  7. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LIMBURG.htm#WaleranIVdied1226B
  8. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Duché de Limbourg, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Limbourg.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Kunigunde von Monschau: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026539&tree=LEO
  10. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Lorraine 11: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/lorraine/lorraine11.html
  11. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 14 March 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  12. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 5.
  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Mathilde von Limburg: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00064105&tree=LEO
  14. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LIMBURG.htm#AdolfIVBergdied1259A
  15. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Heinrich IV: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00064107&tree=LEO

(?) (?) de Bar-Mousson1

F, #57401, d. February 1214
FatherThibault/Theobald I (Jean) (?) Comte de Bar-le-Duc, Mousson, Briey, Stenay, Longwy et Ligny1,2,3 b. bt 1158 - 1160, d. 13 Feb 1214
MotherErmensinde (Eremansette) (?) de Namur, Gräfin von Luxembourg1,4,2 b. Jul 1186, d. 12 Feb 1247
Last Edited18 Dec 2019
     (?) (?) de Bar-Mousson died in February 1214.1,2

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bar 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar1.html
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thibaud I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026498&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ermesinde de Namur: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026501&tree=LEO

Heinrich II (?) Graf zu Salm1,2

M, #57402, b. circa 1160, d. 1225
FatherHeinrich I (?) Graf von Salm und Langenstein3,1,2,4 b. c 1105, d. bt 1163 - 1170
MotherClementia (?) (von Dagsburg)5,1,2
Last Edited16 Mar 2020
     Heinrich II (?) Graf zu Salm was born circa 1160.2 He married Judith (?) de Lorraine, daughter of Frederick I (?) Duke of Lorriane, Duke von Bitsch and Wierzchoslawa Ludmilla (?) of Poland, in 1189.1,6,7,2
Heinrich II (?) Graf zu Salm died in 1225; Genealogy.EU (Luxemburg 4 page) says d. 1200/04.1,6,2
     Heinrich II (?) Graf zu Salm
Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels Fürstliche Häuser , Reference: 1955 109
2. Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: III 134.1

Heinrich II (?) Graf zu Salm
Gf Heinrich II von Salm, *ca 1160, +1200/04; m.ca 1189 Jutta of Upper Lorraine.2 He was living in 1171.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Heinrich II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026401&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg4.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Heinrich I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00107754&tree=LEO
  4. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LUXEMBOURG.htm#HeinrichISalmdiedafter1153B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Clementia (von Dagsburg): http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00107755&tree=LEO
  6. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Lorraine 11 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/lorraine/lorraine11.html
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Judith de Lorraine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026402&tree=LEO
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Johann von Salm: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026403&tree=LEO
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnes von Salm: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026404&tree=LEO
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Friedrich: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026405&tree=LEO
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Heinrich III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026406&tree=LEO
  12. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 5. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Hélissende de Vergy1,2,3,4

F, #57403, b. circa 1265, d. circa 1312
FatherJean I de Vergy Sire de Fouvent, de Champlitte et d'Autrey, sénéchal de Bourgogne5,2,4 b. 1249, d. 1310
MotherMarguerite de Noyers1,2,4 d. a 1310
Last Edited26 Jan 2020
     Hélissende de Vergy was born circa 1265.3,4 She married Henri II (?) Cte de Vaudémont and Ariano, son of Henri I (?) Cte de Vaudémont, Cte d'Ariano, Vicra-General of Tuscany and Marguerite de La Roche-sur-l'Ognon, before June 1284; her 1st husband.1,6,2,4 Hélissende de Vergy married Gaucher/Guy V de Châtillon seigneur de Châtillon, Cécy-en-Brie, Pontarcy, comte de Porcien, connétable de France, son of Gauthier/Gaucher IV de Châtillon and Isabel de Villehardouin, before 1301; his 2nd wife; her 2nd husband.7,1,3,4,8
Hélissende de Vergy died circa 1312.1,3,4,8
     Hélissende de Vergy
Leo van de Pas cites: 1. Kwartieren van Hendrik III en Willem de Rijke van Nassau Geldrop, 1965, G. F. de Roo van Alderwerelt, Reference: 505
2. Encyclopedie Genealogique des Maisons Souveraines du Monde Paris, VIII 1963,IX 1964,XII 1966., Docteur Gaston Sirjean, Reference: 257
3. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III/3 436.1

Hélissende de Vergy
N.B.: In recent years, Genealogics has changed the parents of Helisende from Jean I and Marguertie (de Noyers) to Guillaume II and Lauretta (de Lorraine). However, other tertiary sources still show her parents as Jean I and Marguerite (e.g., Med Lands, Genealogy.EU, Racine et Histoire.)5,9,2,4

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Helisende de Vergy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027466&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Lorraine 11 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/lorraine/lorraine11.html
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Des Barres.pdf, p. 6. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Donzy-Vergy.pdf, p. 7.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Helisende de Vergy: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027466&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henri II de Lorraine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027475&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gaucher V de Châtillon: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027413&tree=LEO
  8. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Dreux-Beu.pdf, p. 2.
  9. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdbchalo.htm#GuillaumeVergydied1272. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henri III de Lorraine: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00027482&tree=LEO
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guy de Châtillon: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026225&tree=LEO

Jeanne (?) of Flanders1,2

F, #57404, b. 1224, d. 1246
FatherGuillaume II de Dampierre sn de Dampierre, Saint-Dizier et Noyel1,2,3,4,5 b. a 1197, d. 3 Sep 1231
MotherMarguerite II (?) comtesse de Flandres, Hainaut, Mons, Valenciennes, Ostrevant1,6,2,4,5 b. 2 Jun 1202, d. 10 Feb 1280
Last Edited27 Dec 2013
     Jeanne (?) of Flanders was born in 1224.1 She married Hugues III (?) Comte de Rethel, son of Hugues II (?) Comte de Rethel and Felicite de Broyes Dame de Beaufort, on 15 May 1239; her 1st husband; his 2nd wife.1,7,2,8,4,5 Jeanne (?) of Flanders married Thibault/Theobald II de Bar Comte de Bar-le-Duc, Brie et Saint-Fargeau, seigneur de Torcy, son of Henri II de Bar Comte de Bar, seigneur de Ligny and Philippe de Dreux Dame de Torcy-en-Brie, Quincy et Longueville-en-Tardenois, on 31 August 1245; his 1st wife; her 2nd husband; per Racines et Histoire "ép. 1) fiançailles 03/05/1243) entre 03 et 31/08/1245."9,1,2,10,4,5
Jeanne (?) of Flanders died in 1246.1,5
     Jeanne (?) of Flanders
Leo van de Pas cites: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: vol II page 10.1 Jeanne (?) of Flanders was also known as Jeanne (?) de Dampierre.4 Jeanne (?) of Flanders was also known as Jeanne de Dampierre.8,5

Family 1

Hugues III (?) Comte de Rethel b. bt 1191 - 1202, d. 1243

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jeanne of Flanders: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00014210&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders4.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Guillaume de Dampierre: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00014204&tree=LEO
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 6. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  5. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Flandres.pdf, p. 13.
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Margarethe: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00014201&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues III: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00105965&tree=LEO
  8. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Rethel 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/crus/rethel2.html
  9. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Bar 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar1.html
  10. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thibaud II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026206&tree=LEO

Henri de Bar1,2

M, #57405, d. after 3 September 1249
FatherHenri II de Bar Comte de Bar, seigneur de Ligny1,3 b. 1190, d. 13 Nov 1239
MotherPhilippe de Dreux Dame de Torcy-en-Brie, Quincy et Longueville-en-Tardenois1,4 b. 1192, d. 17 Mar 1242
Last Edited18 Dec 2019
     Henri de Bar died after 3 September 1249.2

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bar 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar1.html
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 6. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAR.htm#ThibautIBardied1214. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/pardreman.htm#PhilippaDreuxdied1242

Reinald/Renaud (?) de Bar1,2

M, #57406, d. 22 July 1271
FatherHenri II de Bar Comte de Bar, seigneur de Ligny1,2,3 b. 1190, d. 13 Nov 1239
MotherPhilippe de Dreux Dame de Torcy-en-Brie, Quincy et Longueville-en-Tardenois1,2,4 b. 1192, d. 17 Mar 1242
Last Edited18 Dec 2019
     Reinald/Renaud (?) de Bar married Marie de Quievrain dame d’Ancerville, daughter of Nicolas de Quievrain seigneur de Quievrain.1,2
Reinald/Renaud (?) de Bar died on 22 July 1271.1,2

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bar 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar1.html
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 6. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAR.htm#ThibautIBardied1214. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/pardreman.htm#PhilippaDreuxdied1242

Marie de Quievrain dame d’Ancerville1,2

F, #57407, d. June 1293
FatherNicolas de Quievrain seigneur de Quievrain2
Last Edited15 May 2009
     Marie de Quievrain dame d’Ancerville married Reinald/Renaud (?) de Bar, son of Henri II de Bar Comte de Bar, seigneur de Ligny and Philippe de Dreux Dame de Torcy-en-Brie, Quincy et Longueville-en-Tardenois.1,2 Marie de Quievrain dame d’Ancerville married Jean de Joinville seigneur de Reynel, son of Jean de Joinville Sénéchal de Champagne and Alix de Reynel/Risnel heiress of Reynel; her 2nd husband. NOTE: Not sure i have the right Jean de Joinville.2
Marie de Quievrain dame d’Ancerville died in June 1293.2

Family 2

Reinald/Renaud (?) de Bar d. 22 Jul 1271

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bar 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar1.html
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 6. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Robert de Coucy sn de Boves1,2

M, #57408, d. 19 July 1191
FatherSir Thomas I de Coucy Sire de Coucy et Marle, Comte d'Amiens1,2 b. c 1073, d. bt 1129 - 1130
MotherMelesinde de Crecy1,2 b. c 1080, d. a 1147
ReferenceGAV27
Last Edited6 Feb 2020
     Robert de Coucy sn de Boves married Beatrix de St. Pol, daughter of Hugues III dit Candavène de St. Pol Comte de St. Pol, Comte de Hesdin and Marguerite de Clermont.3,2,4
Robert de Coucy sn de Boves died on 19 July 1191.1
     Robert de Coucy sn de Boves was a witness to the NB: Racines et Histoire (Coucy and (Saint-Pol) are the only sources that I have consulted which mentions a 1st marriage for Beatrix to Robert de Coucy (Boves), before marrying Jean de Ponthieu, and say that she was the dau of Anselme Candavène.
     Genealogics and Med Lands both show two different women: 1) Beatrix the dau. of Anselme m. Jean de Ponthieu, and 2) Beatrix the dau of Hugues III Candavène m. Robert de Coucy (Boves).
Conclusion: I have chosen to show two different women, by different fathers, following Genealogics and Med Lands. GA Vaut with Béatrix de St. Pol.5,6,7,8,9,10,11

Robert de Coucy sn de Boves
Robert de Coucy, sn de Boves, +19.7.1191; m. Beatrix (+after 1192) sister of Cte Hugues de Saint-Pol
o     B1. Enguerrand de Coucy, sn de Boves; m.before 1192 Adele (+1252/54), dau.of Jean I de Nesle, Bgve of Bruges
"     C1. Robert de Coucy, sn de Boves, +1248/9; m.Helvide, dau.of Guillaume de Nanteuil, sn d'Autreches
"     C2. Elizabeth de Coucy, Dame de Boves, +after VII.1263; m.before V.1214 Nicolas V de Rumigny (+1257)
o     B2. Robert de Coucy, sn de Fouencamps, +1226/8; m.Marie N
"     C1. Robert de Coucy, +ca 1245; m.Marie N
"     C2. Thomas de Coucy
"     C3. Hellin de Coucy
"     C4. Beatrix de Coucy
o     B3. Hugues de Coucy
o     B4. Thomas de Coucy, a priest in Amiens.2
GAV-27.

Robert de Coucy sn de Boves
Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 80.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Robert de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028241&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Coucy 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/coucy1.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Béatrix de Saint Pol: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028242&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrix de St. Pol: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00482404&tree=LEO
  5. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Saint-Pol Campdavène (1067-1240) Comtes de Saint-Pol, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Saint-Pol-Campdavene.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Coucy - Boves & Vervins, Montmirail (alias Montmirel) & Chimay, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Coucy.pdf
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, (dau. of Anselme Candavène) Béatrix de St.Pol: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164903&tree=LEO
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, (dau. of Hugues III Candavène) Béatrix de St.Pol: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00482404&tree=LEO
  9. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, (dau. of Anselme Candavène) https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#BeatrixSaintPolMJeanIPonthieu. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  10. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, (dau. of Hugues III Candavène) https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#BeatrixStPolMRobertCoucyBoves
  11. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 4 June 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Enguerrand II de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028233&tree=LEO

Beatrix de St. Pol1,2

F, #57409, d. after 1192
FatherHugues III dit Candavène de St. Pol Comte de St. Pol, Comte de Hesdin3,4 b. s 1080, d. a 1145
MotherMarguerite de Clermont4,5 b. bt 1104 - 1105, d. a 1145
ReferenceGAV27
Last Edited6 Apr 2020
     Beatrix de St. Pol married Robert de Coucy sn de Boves, son of Sir Thomas I de Coucy Sire de Coucy et Marle, Comte d'Amiens and Melesinde de Crecy.1,2,4
Beatrix de St. Pol died after 1192.1,2,4
     Beatrix de St. Pol was a witness to the NB: Racines et Histoire (Coucy and (Saint-Pol) are the only sources that I have consulted which mentions a 1st marriage for Beatrix to Robert de Coucy (Boves), before marrying Jean de Ponthieu, and say that she was the dau of Anselme Candavène.
     Genealogics and Med Lands both show two different women: 1) Beatrix the dau. of Anselme m. Jean de Ponthieu, and 2) Beatrix the dau of Hugues III Candavène m. Robert de Coucy (Boves).
Conclusion: I have chosen to show two different women, by different fathers, following Genealogics and Med Lands. GA Vaut with Béatrix de St. Pol.6,7,8,9,10,11,12

Beatrix de St. Pol
Leo van de Pas cites: Europaische Stammtafeln, J. A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.), Reference: III/4 622.4 GAV-27.

Beatrix de St. Pol
Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: VII 80.1

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Béatrix de Saint Pol: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028242&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Coucy 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/french/coucy1.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Hugues III dit Candavene: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00120722&tree=LEO
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Beatrix de St. Pol: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00482404&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marguerite de Clermont: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00482400&tree=LEO
  6. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Maison de Saint-Pol Campdavène (1067-1240) Comtes de Saint-Pol, p. 5: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Saint-Pol-Campdavene.pdf. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  7. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, Seigneurs de Coucy - Boves & Vervins, Montmirail (alias Montmirel) & Chimay, p. 3: http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Coucy.pdf
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, (dau. of Anselme Candavène) Béatrix de St.Pol: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00164903&tree=LEO
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, (dau. of Hugues III Candavène) Béatrix de St.Pol: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00482404&tree=LEO
  10. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, (dau. of Anselme Candavène) https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#BeatrixSaintPolMJeanIPonthieu. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  11. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, (dau. of Hugues III Candavène) https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20FRANCE.htm#BeatrixStPolMRobertCoucyBoves
  12. [S1549] "Author's comment", various, Gregory A. Vaut (e-mail address), to unknown recipient (unknown recipient address), 4 June 2020; unknown repository, unknown repository address. Hereinafter cited as "GA Vaut Comment."
  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Enguerrand II de Coucy: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028233&tree=LEO

Theobald/Thibaud de Bar seigneur de Pierrepont et Ancerville1,2,3

M, #57410, b. circa 1314, d. 1354
FatherErard de Bar sn de Pierrepont, Ancerville, et Pierrefitte1,5,4 d. bt 1335 - 1337
MotherIsabelle (?) de Lorraine, dame d’Ancerville1,4 d. 12 Dec 1353
ReferenceGAV21
Last Edited6 Feb 2020
     Theobald/Thibaud de Bar seigneur de Pierrepont et Ancerville was born circa 1314.1,3 He married Marie (?) de Namur, daughter of Jean I de Dampierre Comte de Namur and Marie d'Artois Lady of Merode, on 9 September 1342;
Her 2nd husband.1,6,3,4,7
Theobald/Thibaud de Bar seigneur de Pierrepont et Ancerville died in 1354.1,3,4
     GAV-21.

Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.) 3/1:53; 6:147.4
Theobald/Thibaud de Bar seigneur de Pierrepont et Ancerville was also known as Thibaut de Bar Seigneur de Pierrepont.4

Family

Marie (?) de Namur b. 1322, d. b 29 Oct 1357
Children

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bar 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar1.html
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Bar 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar2.html
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 11. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thibaut de Bar: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026179&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Erard de Bar: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026208&tree=LEO
  6. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 5 page (Dampierre family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders5.html
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marie de Namur: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026180&tree=LEO
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jolande|Yolande de Bar: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026165&tree=LEO
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabella (Elisabeth) de Bar: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026183&tree=LEO
  10. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAR.htm#Isabelledied1411. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Marie (?) de Namur1,2

F, #57411, b. 1322, d. before 29 October 1357
FatherJean I de Dampierre Comte de Namur3,4,5,1 b. c Oct 1267, d. 31 Jan 1330
MotherMarie d'Artois Lady of Merode3,4,6,1 b. 1291, d. 22 Jan 1365
ReferenceGAV21
Last Edited6 Feb 2020
     Marie (?) de Namur was born in 1322.4,1 She married Heinrich II (?) Graf von Vianden, son of Philipp II von Vianden Herr von Grimberghe and Lucie (?) von der Neuerburg, Heiress of Neuerburg and Esch, in 1335;
Her 1st husband; Genealogy.EU (Flanders 5 page) says m. 1336.3,2,7,1 Marie (?) de Namur married Theobald/Thibaud de Bar seigneur de Pierrepont et Ancerville, son of Erard de Bar sn de Pierrepont, Ancerville, et Pierrefitte and Isabelle (?) de Lorraine, dame d’Ancerville, on 9 September 1342;
Her 2nd husband.8,3,1,9,2
Marie (?) de Namur died before 29 October 1357; Genealogy.EU (Flanders 5 page) says d. ca 1357.10,3,4,1
     Reference: Genealogics cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III/1 53.2
GAV-21. Marie (?) de Namur was also known as Marie de Dampierre.8,10,3,4

Family 1

Heinrich II (?) Graf von Vianden d. Sep 1337
Child

Citations

  1. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 11. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marie de Namur: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026180&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Flanders 5 page (Dampierre family): http://genealogy.euweb.cz/flanders/flanders5.html
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marie de Dampierre: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026180&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jean I de Dampierre: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00008746&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Marie d'Artois: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00005222&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Heinrich II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026178&tree=LEO
  8. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Bar 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar1.html
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Thibaut de Bar: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026179&tree=LEO
  10. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Bar 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar2.html
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Maria von Vianden: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026181&tree=LEO
  12. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Jolande|Yolande de Bar: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026165&tree=LEO
  13. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Isabella (Elisabeth) de Bar: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026183&tree=LEO
  14. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAR.htm#Isabelledied1411. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.

Jeanne/Joanna de Bar1,2,3,4

F, #57412, b. circa 1225, d. 31 August 1299
FatherHenri II de Bar Comte de Bar, seigneur de Ligny1,4,5,6 b. 1190, d. 13 Nov 1239
MotherPhilippe de Dreux Dame de Torcy-en-Brie, Quincy et Longueville-en-Tardenois1,4,7,8 b. 1192, d. 17 Mar 1242
Last Edited18 Dec 2019
     Jeanne/Joanna de Bar was born circa 1225.1,4 She married Friedrich I (?) Graf zu Salm, Seigneur de Blamont, son of Heinrich II (?) Graf zu Salm and Judith (?) de Lorraine, before 23 September 1242; her 1st husband; for their children see http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg4.html.3,9,1,10,4 Jeanne/Joanna de Bar married Ludwig/Lodewijk V (?) von Looz, comte de Chiny, son of Arnold III-IV (?) Graf von Looz und Chiny and Johanna von Chiny Heiress of Chiny, before 22 July 1257; her 2nd husband.2,1,4
Jeanne/Joanna de Bar died circa 1299.3
Jeanne/Joanna de Bar died on 31 August 1299.1
     Jeanne/Joanna de Bar
Leo van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: IV 95.3

Jeanne/Joanna de Bar
Joanna, *ca 1225, +31.8.1299; 1m: before 25.9.1242 Frederick von Blamont (+1255); 2m: after 1258 Ct Ludwig von Looz und Chiny (*1235 +1299.)1 Jeanne/Joanna de Bar was also known as Johanna de Bar.3

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bar 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar1.html
  2. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Looz 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/small/looz2.html
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Johanna de Bar: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00148975&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 6. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Henri II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026216&tree=LEO
  6. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAR.htm#ThibautIBardied1214. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Philippe de Dreux: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026217&tree=LEO
  8. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/pardreman.htm#PhilippaDreuxdied1242
  9. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Friedrich: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026405&tree=LEO
  10. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Luxemburg 4 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/luxemburg/luxemburg4.html
  11. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Heinrich I: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00105599&tree=LEO

Otto II (?) Graf von Henneberg und Botenlauben1

M, #57413, d. between 1244 and 1245
FatherPoppo VI von Henneberg Graf von Henneberg1,2,3 b. c 1150, d. bt 14 Sep 1190 - 1191
MotherSophie (?) Gräfin von Andechs1,4 d. 2 Jan 1218
Last Edited12 Feb 2020
     Otto II (?) Graf von Henneberg und Botenlauben married Beatrice de Courtenay Dame de Thoron, daughter of Josselin III de Courtenay Seneschal of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, tit. Count of Edessa, Sire de Rohais and Agnes de Milly, before 1 October 1208;
Her 2nd husband.1,5,6
Otto II (?) Graf von Henneberg und Botenlauben was buried between 1244 and 1245 at Kloster Frauenrod.6


Otto II (?) Graf von Henneberg und Botenlauben died between 1244 and 1245; Med Lands says d. 1244.1,6
     Otto II (?) Graf von Henneberg und Botenlauben was a witness to the See Wikipedia entry on the House of Henneberg for more information with Poppo I (?) Graf von Henneberg.7

Otto II (?) Graf von Henneberg und Botenlauben
Genealogics cites:
1. Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag Marburg., Detlev Schwennicke, Editor, Reference: III 629.
2. Stammtafeln zur Geschichte der Europäischen Staaten, 4 volumes, Marburg, 1953, 1975., W. K. Prinz von Isenburg, Reference: III 75.8


Otto II (?) Graf von Henneberg und Botenlauben
Per Med Lands:
     "OTTO [I] (-[1244], bur Kloster Frauenrod). Graf von Henneberg zu Botenlauben. "Otto comes de Hennemberc" donated property to the Teutonic Knights, with the consent of "Beatricis uxoris et filii", by charter dated 30 May 1220 at Acre[384]. He founded Kloster Frauenrod in 1231[385]. Hermann Bishop of Würzburg transferred “locum Barcharderode” to “Ottoni seniori de Botenlauben eiusque conjugi dominæ Beatrici” for a convent in return for property “in villa Egenhusen” by charter dated 1231[386]. “Otto comes de Botenlaube...[cum] uxoris suæ dominæ Beatricis” sold “castrum ipsorum hærediarium Bodenlouben...” to the monastery of St. Kilian by charter dated 4 Mar 1234[387]. “Otto comes de Botinlauben cum uxore Beatrici” sold “castri sui” to Würzburg and donated “bona in Arnishusen et in Stupfil” by charter dated 1242[388]. “Hermannus comes de Hennenberg” granted right of passage through his lands to “Novalis Sanctæ Mariæ cenobio ab eo constructo” for “felicis memoriæ Ottonis quondam comitis de Botenloben”, by charter dated 21 Jun 1247[389].
     "m (before 1 Oct 1208) as her second husband, BEATRICE de Courtenay, widow of GUILLAUME de Lusignan Seigneur de Valence, daughter of JOSCELIN [III] Count of Edessa & his wife Agnes de Milly ([1176]-after 1245, bur Kloster Frauenrod). The Lignages d'Outremer name (in order) "Biatris et Annés" as the two daughters of "dou conte Jocelin" & his wife, specifying that Beatrix married "un conte aleman maugré le rei Heymeri" and died without heirs[390]. "Otto comes (de Henneberg)" donated property to the Teutonic Knights at Acre, with the consent of "uxoris Beatricis, filiæ quondam comitis Joscelini", by charter dated Sep 1208[391]. Emperor Friedrich II confirmed rights of the Teutonic Knights in property donated by "Ottone comite de Ennenberch, Beatrice uxore et Ottone filio" by charter dated Jul 1226[392]. Hermann Bishop of Würzburg transferred “locum Barcharderode” to “Ottoni seniori de Botenlauben eiusque conjugi dominæ Beatrici” for a convent in return for property “in villa Egenhusen” by charter dated 1231[393]. “Otto comes de Botenlaube...[cum] uxoris suæ dominæ Beatricis” sold “castrum ipsorum hærediarium Bodenlouben...” to the monastery of St. Kilian by charter dated 4 Mar 1234[394]. “Otto comes de Botinlauben cum uxore Beatrici” sold “castri sui” to Würzburg and donated “bona in Arnishusen et in Stupfil” by charter dated 1242[395]. Graf Otto [I] & his wife had three children."
Med Lands cites:
[384] Röhricht, R. (ed.) (1893) Regesta Regni Hierosolymitani (Oeniponti), 933, p. 247.
[385] ES XVI 144.
[386] Lang, C. H. (1823) Regesta Boicarum (Munich), Vol. II, p. 205.
[387] Regesta Boicarum (1823), Vol. II, p. 227.
[388] Regesta Boicarum (1823), Vol. II, p. 331.
[389] Regesta Boicarum (1823), Vol. II, p. 385.
[390] Nielen, M.-A. (ed.) (2003) Lignages d'Outremer (Paris), Marciana Ms Francese 20, CC.LXXXXIII, p. 69.
[391] Röhricht 828, p. 222.
[392] Röhricht 978, p. 257.
[393] Regesta Boicarum (1823), Vol. II, p. 205.
[394] Regesta Boicarum (1823), Vol. II, p. 227.
[395] Regesta Boicarum (1823), Vol. II, p. 331.6

Family

Beatrice de Courtenay Dame de Thoron b. c 1176, d. a 1245

Citations

  1. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Otto II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076130&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Poppo VI: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00033286&tree=LEO
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/THURINGIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#BertholdIHennebergdied1159. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Gräfin Sophie von Andechs: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00033287&tree=LEO
  5. [S1671] Count W. H. Rüdt-Collenberg, The Rupenides, Hethumides and Lusignans: The Structure of the Armeno-Cilician Dynasties (11, Rude de Lille, Paris 7e, France: Librairie C. Klincksieck for the Calouste Gulbenkian Foundation Armenian Libraryn (Lisbon), 1963), Chart V (J): The House of the Kings of Jerusalem. Hereinafter cited as Rudt-Collenberg: The Rupenides, etc.
  6. [S2203] FMG Medieval Lands Website, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/THURINGIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#OttoIHennebergdied1244
  7. [S1953] Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopedia, online http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Henneberg. Hereinafter cited as Wikipedia.
  8. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Otto II: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00076130&tree=LEO

Ludwig/Lodewijk V (?) von Looz, comte de Chiny1,2

M, #57414, b. 1235, d. 1299
FatherArnold III-IV (?) Graf von Looz und Chiny1,3,4 b. c 1207, d. bt 24 Nov 1272 - Feb 1273
MotherJohanna von Chiny Heiress of Chiny1,3 b. c 1205, d. 17 Jan 1271
Last Edited5 Feb 2020
     Ludwig/Lodewijk V (?) von Looz, comte de Chiny was born in 1235.1,2 He married Jeanne/Joanna de Bar, daughter of Henri II de Bar Comte de Bar, seigneur de Ligny and Philippe de Dreux Dame de Torcy-en-Brie, Quincy et Longueville-en-Tardenois, before 22 July 1257; her 2nd husband.1,5,2
Ludwig/Lodewijk V (?) von Looz, comte de Chiny died in 1299.1,2

Family

Jeanne/Joanna de Bar b. c 1225, d. 31 Aug 1299

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Looz 2 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/small/looz2.html
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 6. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S2203] Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG): MEDIEVAL LANDS - A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, online http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/index.htm, https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(LOWER)%20NOBILITY.htm#ArnoldIIIChinydied1272B. Hereinafter cited as FMG Medieval Lands Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Arnold III: https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00121894&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  5. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, updated 15 May 2003, Bar 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar1.html

(?) de Bar1,2

M, #57415, b. 1113, d. before 1120
FatherRenaud/Reinald I "One-Eyed/Le Borgne" (?) comte de Bar, Mousson1,2 b. c 1090, d. 10 Mar 1148/49
Last Edited15 May 2009
     (?) de Bar was born in 1113.1,2
(?) de Bar died before 1120.1,2

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bar 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar1.html
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 4. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Isbelle (?) de Bar-le-Duc1,2

F, #57416, d. 1320
FatherHenri II de Bar Comte de Bar, seigneur de Ligny1,2 b. 1190, d. 13 Nov 1239
MotherPhilippe de Dreux Dame de Torcy-en-Brie, Quincy et Longueville-en-Tardenois1,2 b. 1192, d. 17 Mar 1242
Last Edited15 May 2009
     Isbelle (?) de Bar-le-Duc died in 1320.1,2

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bar 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar1.html
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 6. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.

Ludwig II (?) Graf von Pfirt1,2,3

M, #57417, d. before 1188
FatherLudwig I (?) Graf von Pfirt1,4,3 b. b 1144, d. 1190
MotherRichenza (?) von Habsburg1,5,3 d. Dec 1180
Last Edited15 May 2009
     Ludwig II (?) Graf von Pfirt married Agnès de Soyhières.6,2
Ludwig II (?) Graf von Pfirt died before 1188.1,3
     Ludwig II (?) Graf von Pfirt was also known as Louis de Bar comte de Ferrette (Pfirt).3

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bar 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar1.html
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ludwig II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026676&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 14. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ludwig I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026673&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Richenza von Habsburg: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026674&tree=LEO
  6. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Agnès de Soyhières: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00426934&tree=LEO
  7. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Friedrich II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026678&tree=LEO

Ulrich I (?) Graf von Pfirt1,2,3

M, #57418, d. 27 September 1197
FatherLudwig I (?) Graf von Pfirt1,4,3 b. b 1144, d. 1190
MotherRichenza (?) von Habsburg1,5,3 d. Dec 1180
Last Edited15 May 2009
     Ulrich I (?) Graf von Pfirt died on 27 September 1197; murdered.1,2,3
     Ulrich I (?) Graf von Pfirt was also known as Ulrich I (?) comte de Ferrette (Pfirt).3

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bar 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar1.html
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ulrich I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026675&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 14. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ludwig I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026673&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Richenza von Habsburg: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026674&tree=LEO

Helwide (?) von Pfirt1,2

F, #57419, d. before 1188
FatherLudwig I (?) Graf von Pfirt1,3,2 b. b 1144, d. 1190
MotherRichenza (?) von Habsburg1,4,2 d. Dec 1180
Last Edited15 May 2009
     Helwide (?) von Pfirt died before 1188.1,2
     Helwide (?) von Pfirt
van de Pas cites: Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.), Reference: VI 146.5 Helwide (?) von Pfirt was also known as Helwide de Bar.2

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bar 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar1.html
  2. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 14. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Ludwig I: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026673&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  4. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Richenza von Habsburg: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026674&tree=LEO
  5. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Helwide von Pfirt: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026677&tree=LEO

Ludwig II (?) von Pfirt1

M, #57420, d. between 1236 and 1237
FatherFriedrich II (?) Graf von Pfirt1,2 d. 1234
MotherHeilwig/Hilwidis (?) von Urach1,3 b. b 1215, d. a 1262
Last Edited15 May 2009
     Ludwig II (?) von Pfirt died between 1236 and 1237 at Rieti.1,4
     Ludwig II (?) von Pfirt was also known as Louis II «Le Féroce» de Ferrette comte de Ferrette (Pfirt).4

Citations

  1. [S1438] Miroslav Marek, online http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html, unknown author (e-mail address), downloaded updated 15 May 2003, Bar 1 page: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/bar/bar1.html
  2. [S1490] Genealogics Website (oiginated by Leo van de Pas, continued by Ian Fettes), online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Friedrich II: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026678&tree=LEO. Hereinafter cited as Genealogics Website.
  3. [S1490] Genealogics Website, online http://www.genealogics.org/index.php, Heilwig von Urach: http://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00026679&tree=LEO
  4. [S2280] Racines et Histoire, online http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/LGN-frameset.html, http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Bar.pdf, p. 14. Hereinafter cited as Racines et Histoire.